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NSB Di 4

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{{Infobox locomotive
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| powertype = [[Diesel-electric]]
| image = NSB Di. 4.jpg
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| builder = [[Henschel & Son|Henschel]]
| operator = [[Norwegian State Railways]] [[SJ Norge]]
| builddate = 1980
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| numinclass = 5
| fleetnumbers = 4.651 – 4.655
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'''NSB Di 4''' is a class of five [[diesel locomotive|diesel-electric locomotive]]s built by [[Henschel & Son|Henschel]] for the [[Norwegian State Railways (1883–1996)|Norwegian State Railways]] (NSB). Delivered in 1981, the class is used to haul passenger trains on the [[Nordland Line]] and are since 2001 the only revenue diesel locomotives used by NSB. The locomotives had electric components from [[Brown, Boveri & Cie]] and a [[General Motors]] [[Electro-Motive Division]] [[EMD 645|16-645E]] prime mover. This gives a power output of {{convert|2450|kW}} and a starting [[tractive effort]] of {{convert|360|kN}}.

The locomotives were ordered in the late 1970s as a supplement and later replacement of the [[NSB Di 3|Di 3]]. The class is technically similar to Denmark's [[DSB Class ME]]; it was planned to have commonalities with NSB's electric [[NSB El 17|El 17]] locomotives, but this was scrapped. The Di 4 was world's first asynchronous locomotive in revenue service. A second batch was planned delivered later in the 1980s, but the order was never placed.

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==History==
[[File:NSB Di 4 Saltfjell.jpg|thumb|left|Di 4 hauling a passenger train over [[Saltfjellet]]]]
During the 1950s and 1960s, NSB took delivery of thirty-five [[NSB Di 3|Di 3]] locomotives. The long-term plan during the 1960s called for an additional orders of Di 3s during the early 1970s, but this was never carried through. Instead, the state railways started planning of a new class.{{sfn|Næss|page=54}} Construction was conducted by [[Kassel]], Germany–based Henschel. The electric components were delivered by [[Brown, Boveri & Cie]] of [[Mannheim]], Germany, while the [[engine-generator]] was delivered by [[General Motors]].<ref name=johnsern >{{cite web
|url=http://www.johnsern.com/materiell/di4/di4.html |title=Di 6 |publisher=Johnsern |language=no |access-date=22 January 2012
}}</ref> The Di 4 is technically similar to the [[DSB Class ME|Class ME]] procured by [[DSB (railway company)|DSB]] in Denmark.<ref name=jernbanenet>{{cite web |url=http://www.jernbane.net/norge/di/di4/index.asp |title=NSBs diesellokomotiver type Di. 4 |publisher=Jernbane.net |language=no |access-date=22 January 2012 |archive-date=16 October 2007 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071016091132/http://jernbane.net/norge/di/di4/index.asp}}</ref> Di 4 was the first NSB locomotive to have [[three-phase]] and [[asynchronous motor]]s,{{sfn|Hartmark|page=22}} and the world's first asynchronous locomotive in revenue service.{{sfn|Hartmark|page=24}} Henschel was also building the [[NSB El 17]]; the two types were planned to use the same [[traction motor]]s and [[rectifier]]s to increase [[commonality]]. This was however was discarded because the Di 4's components were too heavy for the El 17.{{sfn|Aspenberg|page=119}}

Delivery of the five locomotives took place in 1981. It was often run in multiple with Di 3.{{sfn|Næss|page=54}} Di 4 has a higher [[axle load]] than Di 3, so from the delivery they could not be used north of [[Mo i Rana]] on the Nordland Line.{{sfn|Næss|page=72}} By 1987, NSB was planning on an additional order of the class, with delivery in 1989 and 1990, but the order was never placed.{{sfn|Næss|page=72}} The proposed order would have consisted of six to ten units, which would have received a modified ventilation system and a more powerful engine.<ref name=johnsern /> Because of the time that had passed before a new order would have been placed, NSB was already looking for a more modern class, and placed an order for twelve [[NSB Di 6|Di 6]] in 1992.<ref name=n100>Næss: 100</ref> The Di 6 proved too unreliable, and was returned to the manufacturer.{{sfn|Næss|page=139}} With the retirement of the Di 3 in 2001, Di 4 remains NSB's only revenue diesel locomotives.<ref name=sando>{{cite web
|url=http://sando.co/index.php?aut=&nid=2&eng=1&vis=252
|last=Sando |first=Svein |title=Di 3 - The most important locomotive on the non-electrified railways of Norwegian State Railways (NSB) |access-date=6 May 2013
}}</ref>

==Specifications==
[[File:Togmedvogner-29694-471.jpg|thumb|upright|Di 4 train in [[Malvik]]]]
The locomotives are equipped with a [[V16 engine|V16]] General Motors [[Electro-Motive Division]] [[EMD 645|16-645E3B]] [[prime mover (locomotive)|prime mover]] and an EMD AR7-D14B generator which offers a power output of {{convert|2450|kW}} at 900 [[revolutions per minute]]. The prime mover has a [[engine displacement|displacement]] of
{{convert|10.570|L|cuin}} per cylinder, a [[stroke (engine)|stroke]] of {{convert|254|mm|sp=us}} and a diameter of {{convert|230.2|mm|sp=us}}. This gives a starting [[tractive effort]] of {{convert|360|kN}}. The locomotives have a [[Co′Co′]] wheel arrangement, with six [[Norsk Elektrisk & Brown Boveri]] QD 335N4A [[traction motor]]s.{{sfn|Næss|page=54}}<ref name=johnsern /><ref name=jernbanenet />

The [[wheelbase]] is {{convert|1.850|m|ftin|sp=us}} between the outer and center wheels and {{convert|2.000|m|ftin|sp=us}} between the center and inner wheels. The outer axle distance is {{convert|15.600|m|ftin|sp=us}}. The axle load is {{convert|19.1|t}}. The locomotives are {{convert|20.800|m|ftin|sp=us}} long and {{convert|4.350|m|ftin|sp=us}} tall.<ref name=jernbanenet /> The wheel diameter is {{convert|1,100|mm|in|sp=us}} when new.<ref name=johnsern />

==References==
{{commons category|NSB Di 4}}
{{reflist}}
;Bibliography
* {{cite book
|first=Nils Carl |last=Aspenberg |author-link=Nils Carl Aspenberg |title=Elektrolok i Norge |year=2001 |publisher=Baneforlaget |location=Oslo |language=no |isbn=82-91448-42-6
|ref={{harvid|Aspenberg}}
}}
* {{cite book
|title=Norske sivilingeniørers forening jernbaneingeniørenes avdeling: 1891–1991 |last=Hartmark |first=Håkon |last2=Sørlie |first2=Per Harman |last3=Andresen |first3=Jens Kristian |year=1991 |publisher=Norske sivilingeniørers forening |location=Oslo |language=no |url=http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2007103104029
|ref={{harvid|Hartmark}}
}}
*{{cite book |title=Di 3: Billedboken om en loklegende |last=Næss |first=Ståle |publisher=BSN Forlag |year=1999 |language=no |url=http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2010042103014
|ref={{harvid|Næss}}
}}

== External links ==
*[http://trainspo.com/class/3240/ NSB Di 4 profile] on Trainspo

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[[Category:Norwegian State Railways locomotives|Di 4]]
[[Category:Diesel-electric locomotives of Norway]]
[[Category:Henschel locomotives]]
[[Category:Railway locomotives introduced in 1981]]
[[Category:Co′Co′ locomotives]]
[[Category:Nordland Line]]
[[Category:Standard gauge locomotives of Norway]]

Railbus

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{{Short description|Lightweight passenger rail vehicle that shares many aspects of its construction with a bus}}
{{Distinguish|Rail replacement bus service|Road-rail bus|Guided bus}}
[[File:Rälsbuss.jpg|thumb|Hilding Carlsson diesel in Sweden]]
[[File:FCL railcar 3.jpg|thumb|Calabro Lucane Raylway (FCL) railbus Emmina M1c.82 in Italy]]
[[File:Coche Motor Ferrostaal (FCOSA) 01.jpg|thumb|Modern-day railbus, built originally by [[Ferrostaal]], entirely rebuilt and redesigned in [[Santa Cruz de la Sierra]], [[Bolivia]]]]

A '''railbus''' is a lightweight passenger [[railcar]] that shares many aspects of its construction with a bus, typically having a bus (original or modified) body and four wheels on a fixed base, instead of on [[bogie]]s. Originally designed and developed during the 1930s, railbuses have evolved into larger dimensions, with characteristics similar in appearance to a light [[railcar]], with the terms ''railcar'' and ''railbus'' often used interchangeably. Railbuses designed for use specifically on little-used railway lines were commonly employed in countries such as Germany, Italy, France, the United Kingdom and Sweden.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Hilding Carlsson and His Railcar Company |url=http://www.123minsida.se/stefanohn/14072652 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110719121522/http://www.123minsida.se/stefanohn/14072652 |archive-date=2011-07-19 |access-date=2010-04-20 |website=123minsida.se}}</ref>

Today, railbuses are being replaced by modern light [[Railcar#New-generation DMU and EMU railcars|DMU railcar]] designs.{{citation needed|date=July 2019}} Modern diesel-electric railcars, which can be run coupled as multiple units, like the [[Stadler RS1]], the [[RegioSprinter]] of Siemens or the successor [[Siemens Desiro]] share role and specifications with railbuses (albeit with improvements in noise, [[low floor]] design, [[fuel efficiency]], speed and other measures) but are usually not referred to by the term "railbus" any longer.

==Usage by country==
===Argentina===
Locally manufactured [[TecnoTren]] railbuses are in use around Argentina, most notably on the [[University train of La Plata]]. They are mostly used in rural parts of the country where the tracks have not yet been repaired and so can't handle the weight of regular trains.<ref>{{Cite web |date=4 May 2012 |title=El Tecnotren, el transporte ecológico inventado en Argentina que une pueblos |url=http://alternativa-verde.com/2012/05/04/eltecnotren-el-transporte-ecologico-inventado-en-argentina-que-une-pueblos/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150518091647/http://www.alternativa-verde.com/2012/05/04/eltecnotren-el-transporte-ecologico-inventado-en-argentina-que-une-pueblos/ |archive-date=18 May 2015 |access-date=12 May 2015 |website=Alternativa Verde |language=es}}</ref>
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===Australia===
In 1937, the NSW Department of Railways added six [[Clyde Engineering|Waddington]]-built four-wheel [[Streamliner|streamlined]] ''[[New South Wales FP Paybuses|FP Paybuses]]'' to serve on small branch lines out [[Cowra railway station|Cowra]] and [[Harden railway station|Harden]] that did not have enough passengers to justify a [[rail motor]].<ref>Rolling Stock Improvements in New South Wales ''[[The Railway Magazine]]'' May 1939 page 368</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=First Fleet |url=http://www.nswrailheritage.com.au/orhprojects/cashontrack/firstfleet.htm |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100513055338/http://www.nswrailheritage.com.au/orhprojects/cashontrack/firstfleet.htm |archive-date=2010-05-13 |access-date=2009-12-11 |website=NSW Rail Heritage}}</ref> Powered by a [[Ford flathead V8 engine|Ford V8]] engine, they were given the designation FP1 to FP6. When the railbus service wasn't popular, several of the buses became mobile pay cars used to pay railway employees at stations and working on tracks.

In December 1941, one of these railbuses (FP 5) was destroyed when dynamite was placed on railway tracks near [[Yanderra]]. The three-man crew of the railbus were killed in the explosion. Though £2,000 of loose cash was taken, the safe in the railcar could not be opened by the robbers. No one was prosecuted for the offence.<ref>{{Cite web |title=4-wheel Paybuses Pack |url=http://coalstonewcastle.railpage.org.au/content/downloads/stock/files/nsw_paybus_readme.txt |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090914155939/http://coalstonewcastle.railpage.org.au/content/downloads/stock/files/nsw_paybus_readme.txt |archive-date=2009-09-14 |access-date=2009-12-11 |website=coalstonewcastle.railpage.org.au |format=TXT}}</ref>

The first railbus, FP1, has been restored where it is on display at the [[NSW Rail Museum]] in [[Thirlmere, New South Wales|Thirlmere]]. Another seven were built by [[Commonwealth Engineering|Comeng]] in the 1960s.<ref>Order for Paybuses ''[[Railway Transportation]]'' April 1967 page 8</ref>

In [[Queensland]], "[[Queensland Rail City network#RailBus|RailBus service]]" refers to road bus service running parallel to portions of some railway lines, substituting for commuter train.

===Czech Republic and Slovakia===
[[File:RailbusAtPrahaHlavníNádražíJuly2011.jpg|thumb|[[České dráhy|ČD]] railbus at Prague, 2011.]]
In the [[Czech Republic]] and [[Slovakia]], railbuses are used on [[Regional rail|less frequented rural lines]]. Most railbuses are based on a former [[ČSD Class M 152.0|ČSD M 152.0]] [[diesel multiple unit]], also known as '''ČD/ŽSR Class 810'''.

===Canada===
The [[Kaoham Shuttle]] utilizes DMU railbuses for its daily service between [[Lillooet]] and [[D'Arcy, British Columbia]].
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===Denmark===
Railbusses where common on private railways in Denmark, they where mostly manufactured by Swedish and German companies

===Germany===
[[File:Baureihe 798 752-2.jpg|thumb|left|Two-engined [[Uerdingen railbus]] of Deutsche Bundesbahn]]
[[File:Bahnhof Gotha 1991. DR 172 149-7, Piglet taxi departure for Crawinkel (3282306889).jpg|thumb|VT 2.09 of Deutsche Reichsbahn]]

In Germany, the Schienenbus was developed in the 1930s to fulfill the need for an inexpensive rail vehicle. It was built to standard specifications on Germany's [[Deutsche Reichsbahn|Reichsbahn]] (the predecessor to [[Deutsche Bahn|DB]]) to meet the demand for cost-effective services on [[light railway]]s or ''[[Kleinbahn]]en'' (the [[Wismar railbus]] was a pioneer in those days.) After the [[Second World War]], the eventually ubiquitous [[Uerdingen railbus]]es were developed by [[Deutsche Bundesbahn]] in single-engined and double-engined versions. The latter were powerful enough to haul [[through coach]]es and [[freight car]]s. Matching trailers and driving trailers were developed as well. These railbuses were a predecessor of the modern [[diesel multiple unit]]s. In the late 1950s, [[Deutsche Reichsbahn (East Germany)|Deutsche Reichsbahn]] in the GDR developed the single-engined class [[DR Class VT 2.09|VT 2.09]] with matching trailers and driving trailers, built by Waggonbau Bautzen.

A number of serious accidents in Germany in the late 1970s involving railbuses resulted in the specification and development of larger, more robustly designed diesel [[railcar]]s. Although these cars were more similar in size to the U.S. produced diesel railcars, they would not have complied with current [[Federal Railroad Administration|FRA]] requirements, and, like their North American cousin rail diesel cars, are largely railroad-derivative designs. The [[DB Class 628]] exemplifies the contemporary German diesel railcar. This type of car replaced the Schienenbus and locomotive-hauled train consists where possible on branch-line and main-line assignments during the 1980s and 1990s. Both the Uerdingen Schienenbus and the Bautzen railbuses have virtually disappeared from regular revenue service, but its diesel rail car successors are still widely used. DMUs of a [[Railcar#New-generation DMU and EMU railcars|third generation]] in succession after the Schienenbus are now being ordered by the hundreds in a variety of modular design combinations.<ref>{{Citation |title=Supplementing and Updating TCRP Report 52: Joint Operation of Light Rail Transit or Diesel Multiple Unit Vehicles with Railroads |date=September 2001 |url=http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/tcrp/tcrp_rrd_43.pdf |work=Research Results Digest |issue=43 |page=27 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100706045238/http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/tcrp/tcrp_rrd_43.pdf |series=Transit Cooperative Research Program |access-date=2010-05-01 |archive-date=2010-07-06 |url-status=live |via=onlinepubs.trb.org}}</ref>
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=== Hungary ===
[[File:Vasútállomás, Ganz gyártmányú Árpád sorozatú (TAS) sínautóbusz. Fortepan 23230.jpg|thumb|Árpád railbus in 1937]]
The first railbuses appeared in Hungary in 1925, made by [[Ganz Works]]. From 1934, [[Hungarian State Railways|MÁV]] started to use railbuses called Árpád, which were also manufactured by Ganz. These vehicles ran on the Budapest-Vienna line. In 1975, the last Árpád was scrapped.

In 1986, due to the lack of [[ČD Class 810|ČD 810]] trains, [[Ikarus (Hungarian company)|Ikarus]] converted an Ikarus 260 bus into a railbus on behalf of MÁV. This model was called Ikarus 725.<ref name=ikarus>{{cite web |title=Икарус на железнодорожном ходу |url=https://zddoc.ru/ikarus-na-zheleznodorozhnom-hodu/ |website=zddoc.ru |access-date=6 January 2022}}</ref> Its variations 725.01, 722.01 and 723.01 were sent to Malaysia in 1988.<ref name=ikarus/>

=== India ===
[[File:Kolar Railbus IndianRailways.jpg|thumb|A railbus near Bangarpet (State: Karnataka) ]]
[[Indian Railways]] operates many railbuses on its branch lines. These railbuses are being replaced by [[Electric multiple unit|EMU]]s due to increase in passengers.

There is railbus on the Kalka-Shimla route (train number 72451), Mathura to Vrindavan (train number 72175) and Merta Jn to Merta City (train number 74804) as well, among others.
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===Indonesia===
[[File:20150402 074727.jpg|thumb|left|Batara Kresna Railbus]]
Railbuses in [[Indonesia]] are built locally by [[Industri Kereta Api|INKA]] and used in several local rail services operated by [[PT Kereta Api Indonesia]] (KAI).

On August 5, 2012, the first railbus service in the country [[Bathara Kresna Rail Bus|''Batara Kresna'' railbus]] was launched to accommodate parts of ''[[Prambanan Express|Prambanan Ekspres]]'' commuter rail passengers in [[Central Java]] from [[Purwosari railway station|Purwosari Station]] in [[Surakarta|Solo]] to [[Wonogiri railway station|Wonogiri Station]] in [[Wonogiri]] and vice versa.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Widjajadi |date=5 August 2012 |title=Railbus Batara Kresna Akhirnya Meluncur |url=http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2012/08/05/338520/289/101/Railbus-Batara-Kresna-Akhirnya-Meluncur |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://archive.today/20130129043547/http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2012/08/05/338520/289/101/Railbus-Batara-Kresna-Akhirnya-Meluncur |archive-date=2013-01-29 |website=MediaIndonesia.com |language=id}}</ref>

In 2014, KAI launched ''Kertalaya'' railbus in [[South Sumatra]] between [[Kertapati railway station|Kertapati Station]] in [[Palembang]] to [[Indralaya railway station|Indralaya Station]] in [[Ogan Ilir Regency|Ogan Ilir]] and vice versa to ease road traffic.<ref>{{Cite news |date=23 November 2014 |title=26 November, Railbus Kertalaya Kembali Beroperasi |language=id |work=Sriwijaya Post |url=http://palembang.tribunnews.com/2014/11/23/26-november-railbus-kertalaya-kembali-beroperasi |url-status=live |access-date=23 November 2014 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160305031332/http://palembang.tribunnews.com/2014/11/23/26-november-railbus-kertalaya-kembali-beroperasi |archive-date=2016-03-05}}</ref>

In 2016, ''Lembah Anai'' Railbus was launched in [[West Sumatra]] to serve passengers from [[Kayu Tanam railway station|Kayu Tanam Station]] in [[Padang Pariaman]] to [[Minangkabau International Airport]].<ref>{{Cite web |last=Sekretariat IRPS Pusat |date=23 June 2011 |title=Kunjungan IRPS Sumbar-Riau ke PT INKA Mendampingi Kadishub Sumatra Barat |url=http://www.irps.or.id/kunjungan-irps-sumbar-riau-ke-pt-inka-mendampingi-kadishub-sumatra-barat/ |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200319023848/http://irps.or.id/kunjungan-irps-sumbar-riau-ke-pt-inka-mendampingi-kadishub-sumatra-barat/ |archive-date=2020-03-19 |access-date=2016-01-31 |website=Indonesian Railway Preservation Society |language=id}}</ref>

===Ireland===
[[File:Cultra a4.jpg|thumb|right|A Great Northern Railway railbus at the [[Ulster Folk and Transport Museum]], 2014]]
The [[Great Northern Railway of Ireland]] produced railbuses at the Railway Works in [[Dundalk]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=17 December 2012 |title=Rail Buses Developed at Dundalk GNR Works |url=http://www.independent.ie/regionals/argus/lifestyle/rail-buses-developed-at-dundalk-gnr-works-28966762.html |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200322091637/https://www.independent.ie/regionals/argus/lifestyle/rail-buses-developed-at-dundalk-gnr-works-28966762.html |archive-date=2020-03-22 |access-date=2015-08-23 |website=Independent.ie}}</ref>
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===Japan===
[[File:Nanbu Jukan Railbus.jpg|thumb|left|[[Nanbu Jūkan Railway|Nanbu Jūkan]] Railbus Kiha102Th]]

The president of [[JNR]] visited West Germany in 1953 and was introduced to railbusses there. JNR subsequently drew up a plan for railbus introduction plan in JNR, and a prototype was built in 1955. However, JNR found railbuses less reliable in daily operation as compared to standard rail equipment and discontinued their use in the 1960s.
Railbuses produced by [[Fuji Heavy Industries]] were operational on the [[Nanbu Jūkan Railway]] from 1962 until the line ceased operations in 1997, though the preserved units can still be seen at [[Shichinohe Station]].<ref>{{Cite web |script-title=ja:南部縦貫鉄道とは |trans-title=What is the Nanbu Jūkan Railway |url=http://www.ogaemon.com/r-bus/r-bus-sen/r-bus-rekisi.html |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200917214540/http://www.ogaemon.com/r-bus/r-bus-sen/r-bus-rekisi.html |archive-date=17 September 2020 |access-date=20 February 2020 |website=ogaemon.com |language=ja}}</ref>

Motorization soared in Japan from the 1970s on, reducing consuming passenger numbers on local private railways. Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. in 1982 began development of an "LE-Car" that incorporates significantly the structure of the bus, deficit local lines of JNR has been adopted by many of the railway company that local governments and private companies are operated by joint investment.

===Mongolia===
The [[Ulaanbaatar Railbus]] is a railbus-based public transit system in the Mongolian capital of [[Ulaanbaatar]].
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===Netherlands===
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[[File:Demonstratie Michelin auto-trein-515297.ogv|thumb|Demonstration of the [[Michelin]] so-called car-train with rubber tires in the Netherlands in 1932]]
In the Netherlands, a Michelin car was tried in 1932.<ref>{{cite web |title=Demonstratie Michelin auto-trein - Open Beelden |url=https://www.openbeelden.nl/media/149143/Demonstratie_Michelin_auto_trein.tl |website=www.openbeelden.nl |access-date=6 January 2022}}</ref>

=== Peru ===
[[File:PeruRail 291.jpg|thumb|left|A railbus on the [[PeruRail|Ferrocarril Santa Ana]] near [[Machu Picchu]]]]
Railbuses are used on [[PeruRail]].
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===Saudi Arabia and Syria===
[[Syria|Syrian]] railbuses are used in [[Damascus]] from [[Ma'adan]] to [[Sarouja]], and in [[Saudi Arabia]] from [[Riyadh]] to [[Medina]] and [[Mecca]].

===Sri Lanka===
[[File:Rail bus manufacturd by sri lankan railway engineers.jpg|thumb|A railbus at Punani railway station, Sri Lanka]]
In areas without significant demand for regular commuter trains, such as in the [[Eastern Province, Sri Lanka|Eastern province]], railbus connects towns and cities. These buses were built by converting two buses originally built for road transport.
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===United Kingdom===
{{Main|British Rail railbuses}}
[[File:Railbus 79964 at York Railfest.JPG|thumb|left|Preserved [[Waggon- und Maschinenbau GmbH Donauwörth railbus|(British Rail) railbus]] built by [[:de:Waggon- und Maschinenbau GmbH Donauwörth|Waggon und Maschinenbau]]]]
[[British Rail]] produced a variety of railbuses as a means both of building new rolling stock cheaply, and to provide services on lightly used lines economically.

A variety of railbus known as [[Pacer (train)|Pacers]], which were constructed in the 1980s, remained in service until 2021,<ref>{{Cite web |date=1 June 2021 |title=Last Ever Pacer Train Squeaks to a Halt in Wales – After Equivalent of Five Trips to the Moon and Back |url=https://nation.cymru/news/last-ever-pacer-train-squeaks-to-a-halt-in-wales-after-equivalent-of-five-trips-to-the-moon-and-back/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210822063225/https://nation.cymru/news/last-ever-pacer-train-squeaks-to-a-halt-in-wales-after-equivalent-of-five-trips-to-the-moon-and-back/ |archive-date=2021-08-22 |access-date=2021-08-22 |website=Nation.Cymru}}</ref> they were phased out as a result of their failure to comply with accessibility requirements.

===United States===
[[File:GallopingGoose1952.jpg|thumb|right|[[Rio Grande Southern]] [[Galloping Goose (railcar)|Galloping Goose]] railbus built on a luxury car chassis]]
There are records of bus bodies being fitted to special [[Mack Trucks|Mack Truck]] chassis built with small four-wheel bogie trucks under the engine and hood, and larger flanged steel drive wheels, as early as 1903. [[Osgood Bradley Car Company]] built one of the more popular bodies during the 1920s. [[Fairbanks-Morse]], later a locomotive builder, offered similar conversions fitted to [[Dodge]] truck chassis in the mid-1930s, preferring to fit the truck chassis with van bodies and supply a small matching passenger coach trailer. Some railroads built their own bodies on truck or large, powerful luxury passenger car chassis. Most continued the pattern of a small two axle truck in front, and a single drive axle in the rear. One example from the 1930s, built on a [[White Motor Company|White Truck]] chassis, is preserved at the [[National Museum of Transportation]] in [[Kirkwood, Missouri]].

After World War II a number of more modern light train concepts appeared. Few were successful, as many railroads cooperated with highway bus services to eliminate passenger trains from their branch lines. Some, like the [[American Car & Foundry]] Motorailer, blurred the line between [[railcar]] and railbus. Others, such as the Mack FCD, landed firmly in the railbus camp. Ten of the Macks were purchased by the [[New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad]] during 1951–1952. By the time they were delivered, however, a new president was in charge, and he had little interest in serving branch lines. Only one saw regular service. All were sold to other entities such as [[Sperry Rail Service]], or to overseas railroads.

In 1967 and 1968, [[Philadelphia Suburban Transportation Company|Red Arrow Lines]] tested a [[GM New Look bus]] converted to operate on rails on its interurban routes and the [[Norristown High Speed Line]].<ref>"This bus rides rail or highway with equal ease". ''[[Railway Age]]'', 6 November 1967 page 26</ref>

In 1985, [[SEPTA]] tested an imported [[British Rail railbuses|BRE-Leyland railbus]] on the now-closed [[Fox Chase station|Fox Chase]] to [[Newtown station (SEPTA)|Newton]] section of the [[Fox Chase Line]].

== See also ==
{{Portal|Buses|Transport}}
{{div col|colwidth=23em}}
* [[Autorail]]
* [[Dual-mode vehicle]]
* [[Galloping Goose (railcar)]]
* [[GHE T 1]]
* [[GWR railcars]]
* [[McKeen railmotor]]
* [[Railcar]]
* [[Railmotor]]
* [[Rail motor coach]]
* [[Road–rail vehicle]]
{{div col end}}

==References==
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
{{Commons category|Railbuses}}
* [http://www.fahrplancenter.com/Train_Panamericano_englisch.pdf Project «El Expreso Panamericano»]
{{public transport}}
{{buses}}
{{Authority control}}

[[Category:Railbuses| Bus]]
[[Category:Hybrid vehicles]]

[[pt:Automotora]]

Andreas Cornelius

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{{Infobox football biography
| name = Andreas Cornelius
| image = File:Andreas Cornelius cropped.jpg
| caption = Cornelius with [[Cardiff City F.C.|Cardiff City]] in 2013
| fullname = Andreas Evald Cornelius<ref name="Barclays Premier League Squad Numbers 2013/14">{{Cite news |title=Barclays Premier League Squad Numbers 2013/14 |url=http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/aug/premier-league-squad-numbers-seasons-2013-14.html |publisher=Premier League |date=16 August 2013 |accessdate=17 August 2013 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20130821225359/http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/aug/premier-league-squad-numbers-seasons-2013-14.html |archivedate=21 August 2013}}</ref>
| birth_date = {{birth date and age|1993|3|16|df=y}}
| birth_place = [[Copenhagen]], Denmark
| height = 1.95 m<ref>{{cite web|url=https://tournament.fifadata.com/documents/FWC/2018/pdf/FWC_2018_SQUADLISTS.PDF|title=2018 FIFA World Cup: List of players|publisher=FIFA|format=PDF|page=8|date=18 June 2018}}</ref>
| position = [[Forward (association football)#Striker|Striker]]
| currentclub = [[Parma Calcio 1913|Parma]] (on loan from [[Atalanta B.C.|Atalanta]])
| clubnumber = 11
| youthyears1 =
| youthclubs1 = BK Hekla
| youthyears2 =
| youthclubs2 = [[Fremad Amager]]
| youthyears3 =
| youthclubs3 = [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]]
| years1 = 2012–2013
| clubs1 = [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]]
| caps1 = 34
| goals1 = 18
| years2 = 2013–2014
| clubs2 = [[Cardiff City F.C.|Cardiff City]]
| caps2 = 8
| goals2 = 0
| years3 = 2014–2017
| clubs3 = [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]]
| caps3 = 91
| goals3 = 28
| years4 = 2017–
| clubs4 = [[Atalanta B.C.|Atalanta]]
| caps4 = 23
| goals4 = 3
| years5 = 2018–2019
| clubs5 = → [[FC Girondins de Bordeaux|Bordeaux]] (loan)
| caps5 = 20
| goals5 = 3
| years6 = 2019–
| clubs6 = → [[Parma Calcio 1913|Parma]] (loan)
| caps6 = 12
| goals6 = 6
| nationalyears1 = 2010–2011
| nationalteam1 = [[Denmark national under-19 football team|Denmark U18]]
| nationalcaps1 = 6
| nationalgoals1 = 2
| nationalyears2 = 2011–2012
| nationalteam2 = [[Denmark national under-19 football team|Denmark U19]]
| nationalcaps2 = 14
| nationalgoals2 = 4
| nationalyears3 = 2012–2015
| nationalteam3 = [[Denmark national under-21 football team|Denmark U21]]
| nationalcaps3 = 7
| nationalgoals3 = 2
| nationalyears4 = 2012–
| nationalteam4 = [[Denmark national football team|Denmark]]
| nationalcaps4 = 25
| nationalgoals4 = 4
| pcupdate = 22:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
| ntupdate = 09:50, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
}}
'''Andreas Evald Cornelius''' (born 16 March 1993) is a Danish professional [[Association football|footballer]] who plays as a [[Forward (association football)#Striker|striker]] for [[Parma Calcio 1913|Parma]], on loan from [[Atalanta B.C.|Atalanta]], and the [[Denmark national football team|Denmark national team]].

==Club career==
[[File:Tosaint Ricketts and Andreas Cornelius.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|Cornelius vs. [[Tosaint Ricketts]] of [[Canada men's national soccer team|Canada]] in 2013.]]

===F.C. Copenhagen===
Cornelius had joined the [[F.C. Copenhagen|FC Copenhagen]] first team squad for its training camps in July 2011 and January 2012.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://fck.dk/index.php?pageid=754&newsid=11521|title=F.C. København - Det officielle website - Nyhedsvisning|author=|date=|website=fck.dk|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://fck.dk/index.php?pageid=754&newsid=12291|title=F.C. København - Det officielle website - Nyhedsvisning|author=|date=|website=fck.dk|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref>

On 9 April 2012, he played his first [[Danish Superliga|Superliga]] match, coming on as a substitute for [[César Santin]] against [[Aarhus Gymnastik Forening|AGF]] at [[NRGi Park]] in [[Aarhus]]. In the previous [[Danish Superliga|Superliga]] match (against [[Brøndby IF|Brøndby]] at [[Parken Stadium]] on 5 April 2012), he had been an unused substitute.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.football-lineups.com/footballer/69509/|title=Cornelius :: Andreas Cornelius :: FC Copenhagen|author=|date=|website=Football-Lineups|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref> On 20 May 2012, it was announced that Cornelius would join the first team squad on a permanent basis at the beginning of the upcoming season, together with [[Christoffer Remmer]] and Jakob Busk.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://fck.dk/nyhedsvisning/?newsid=12745|title=F.C. København - Det officielle website - Nyhedsvisning|website=fck.dk|accessdate=6 June 2017|archive-url=https://archive.is/20120710134704/http://fck.dk/nyhedsvisning/?newsid=12745|archive-date=10 July 2012|url-status=dead|df=dmy-all}}</ref>

Cornelius scored his first goal for [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]] against [[F.C. Midtjylland|Midtjylland]] in the first game of the new 2012–13 season. He scored the opening goal against [[Odense Boldklub|Odense]] in a 2–2 draw. He also scored the winning goal against [[Molde FK]] in the [[2012–13 UEFA Europa League|Europa League]] on 20 September.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/matches/round=2000356/match=2009900/postmatch/report/index.html#fcks+cornelius+breaks+molde |title=FCK make winning start as Cornelius breaks Molde |publisher=UEFA |date=20 September 2012 }}</ref>

Cornelius was awarded player of the month in the Danish Superliga on 7 October 2012. On 15 April, he scored the final goal in a 3–2 win against FC Nordsjælland. This gave FCK a 10-point lead in the league to number 2, and was crucial for Copenhagen winning the title.

Even though Cornelius only played one full season with the first team, he quickly became one of the most popular players of the club, as the print with his name and number on the official shirts being the most popular, selling around 40% of all prints.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHlhY5umws|title=Spillertrøjer: Hvem er mest populær? - fcktv.dk|first=|last=F.C. København|date=13 June 2013|publisher=|accessdate=6 June 2017|via=YouTube}}</ref>

===Cardiff City===
On 27 June 2013, [[Cardiff City F.C.|Cardiff City]] announced they had signed Cornelius, for a club record fee.<ref name="CORNELIUS SET TO JOIN CITY">{{Cite web |url=http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/cornelius-set-to-join-city-882789.aspx |title=CORNELIUS SET TO JOIN CITY |accessdate=27 June 2013}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.fck.dk/english1/#/nyhed/2013/06/27/andreas-cornelius-solgt-til-cardiff-city|title=F.C. København - Det officielle website - English|author=|date=|website=www.fck.dk|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref> Reports from Denmark suggested a fee of 75 million [[Danish krone]]r (approximately £8 million).<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.fyens.dk/article/2324564:Sport--FC-Koebenhavn-saelger-Cornelius-til-Cardiff|title=FC København sælger Cornelius til Cardiff|author=|date=27 June 2013|website=fyens.dk|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref> On 1 July, Cornelius completed his medical and signed a five-year deal with the club, saying "I've been given a great opportunity and this is a very exciting project that's taking place at Cardiff City."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8800878/Transfer-news-Andreas-Cornelius-signs-five-year-deal-with-Cardiff|title=Transfer news: Andreas Cornelius signs five-year deal with Cardiff|publisher=}}</ref> Twenty-three days later, he made his debut in a friendly against [[Forest Green Rovers F.C.|Forest Green Rovers]] and scored a goal in a 4–3 victory. However, he sustained a minor injury to his ankle during training the following week, and consequently missed out on the team's first ever [[Premier League]] game, against [[West Ham United]] on 17 August.{{citation needed|date=June 2018}}

[[File:Andreas Cornelius warming up for Cardiff City.jpg|thumb|Cornelius warming up before his Premier League debut on 25 August 2013]]
Cornelius made his competitive debut for Cardiff on 25 August against [[Manchester City F.C.|Manchester City]], coming on as a stoppage-time replacement for [[Fraizer Campbell]] who had scored twice in the 3–2 home victory.<ref>{{cite web|last=Roberts|first=Gareth|title=BBC Sport - Cardiff 3-2 Manchester City|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23744629|publisher=BBC Sport|accessdate=25 November 2013}}</ref> Three days later, in a [[Football League Cup|League Cup]] match against [[Football League Two|League Two]] club [[Accrington Stanley F.C.|Accrington Stanley]], he made his first competitive start for the club in a 2–0 win; however he re-aggravated the ankle injury he had picked up in pre-season following a heavy tackle and was carried off on a stretcher just before half-time.<ref>{{cite web|title=BBC Sport - Accrington 0-2 Cardiff|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23776662|publisher=BBC Sport|accessdate=25 November 2013}}</ref> The injury would prove worse than first feared; and left Cornelius on the sidelines for the next three months, meaning he missed 10 games for Cardiff, as well as the chance to compete for his country [[Denmark National Football Team|Denmark]] in their final qualification games for the [[2014 FIFA World Cup]] in Brazil.

During the final international break of 2013, Cornelius once again began training with the first team squad, in order to be accessed by the medical staff. They deemed that he was fit to return to action, and therefore arranged a behind closed door friendly with [[Football League Championship|Championship]] club [[Yeovil Town F.C.|Yeovil Town]] on 14 November. He played 60 minutes as planned in a 2–1 defeat and told the media that he was fit and ready to return to action.<ref>{{cite web|title=Andreas Cornelius: Denmark striker targets Cardiff City return|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24990353|publisher=BBC Sport|accessdate=25 November 2013}}</ref>

===F.C. Copenhagen return===
On 31 January 2014, Cornelius returned to [[F.C. Copenhagen]] for an undisclosed fee, but Cardiff claim they lost most of the money they paid for him.<ref>{{cite web|title=Cornelius kommer hjem|url=http://www.fck.dk/#/nyhed/2014/01/31/cornelius-kommer-hjem|work=FC Copenhagen|date=31 January 2014}}</ref> He scored a hat-trick in his first game back at Copenhagen in a friendly match against [[FC Slovan Liberec|Slovan Liberec]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26174851|title=Cardiff City blame Malky Mackay regime for transfer loss|author=|date=13 February 2014|publisher=BBC Sport|accessdate=6 June 2017}}</ref> On 23 February 2014, Cornelius made his first competitive start after re-signing with the club and crowned his comeback with a header to put his team 1–0 in front against [[Aarhus Gymnastikforening|AGF]] at [[NRGi Park]]. The match ended in a 1-1 draw.

Cornelius ended his first half season with 5 goals in 13 appearances, including a brace against [[Randers FC]] in [[Parken Stadium|Parken]] where he dribbled past four men before sending the ball into the back of the net. On 13 April 2015, he suffered a horrific ankle injury during Copenhagen's [[2014–15 Danish Superliga|Superliga]] clash against [[Silkeborg IF]] ruling him out for the remainder of the season.<ref>{{cite web|title=Andreas Cornelius suffers horrific ankle injury|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3040151/Former-Cardiff-City-striker-Andreas-Cornelius-suffers-horrific-ankle-injury.html|work=Daily Mail|date=15 April 2015}}</ref>

===Atalanta===
On 2 May 2017, it was announced that Cornelius would join [[Serie A]] side [[Atalanta B.C.|Atalanta]] for a fee of around €3.5 million.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/former-cardiff-city-flop-andreas-12975833|title=Cardiff City flop Cornelius lands transfer to Serie A club|first=Dominic|last=Booth|date=2 May 2017|publisher=}}</ref>

====Bordeaux loan====
On 31 August 2018, hours before the closing of the 2018 summer transfer window, Cornelius joined [[Ligue 1]] side [[FC Girondins de Bordeaux]] on loan for the season.<ref>{{cite web |title=Official: Cornelius joins Bordeaux |url=https://www.football-italia.net/127388/official-cornelius-joins-bordeaux |website=Football italia |accessdate=1 September 2018}}</ref> The deal reportedly included an option for Bordeaux to sign him permanently for a fee between €7 and 8 million.<ref>{{cite news |title=Andreas Cornelius prêté à Bordeaux (officiel) |url=https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Andreas-cornelius-prete-a-bordeaux-officiel/935947 |accessdate=1 September 2018 |work=L'Équipe |date=31 August 2018 |language=French}}</ref>

===Parma===
On 18 July 2019, Cornelius signed to [[Serie A]] club [[Parma Calcio 1913|Parma]] a 2-years loan with an obligation to buy.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://m.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/ufficiale-parma-presi-cornelius-e-kulusevski-dall-atalanta-1270279|access-date=18 July 2019|title=UFFICIALE: Parma, presi Cornelius e Kulusevski dall'Atalanta}}</ref> On 20 October 2019, Cornelius came off the bench in the 11th to substitute the injured [[Roberto Inglese]], and scored a [[hat trick]] in a 5–1 home win against [[Genoa C.F.C.|Genoa]] within a span of eight minutes.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.football-italia.net/SerieA/match/142442|title=Parma 5 - 1 Genoa|date=20 October 2019|publisher=Football Itaia}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.football-italia.net/145457/cornelius-hat-trick-crushes-genoa|title=Cornelius hat-trick crushes Genoa|publisher=Football Italia|date=20 October 2019}}</ref>

==International career==
In May 2018 he was named in Denmark’s preliminary 35-man [[Denmark national football team|squad]] for the [[2018 World Cup]] in [[Russia]].<ref>http://www.goal.com/en-gb/amp/news/revealed-every-world-cup-2018-squad-23-man-preliminary-lists/oa0atsduflsv1nsf6oqk576rb</ref> He played in 3 of Denmark's 4 games, starting in the final group match vs France and the round of 16 match against Croatia. Cornelius did not score any goals in the World Cup.

==Career statistics==
===Club===
{{Updated|match played 10 November 2019}}<ref name="sw">{{Soccerway|211765|accessdate=3 June 2019}}</ref>

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center"
|-
!rowspan="2"|Club
!rowspan="2"|League
!rowspan="2"|Season
!colspan="2"|League
!colspan="2"|[[Coppa Italia|Cup]]
!colspan="2"|[[UEFA#Club|Europe]]
!colspan="2"|Total
|-
!Apps!!Goals!!Apps!!Goals!!Apps!!Goals!!Apps!!Goals
|-
|rowspan="3"|[[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]]
|rowspan="2"|[[Danish Superliga|Superliga]]
|[[2011–12 F.C. Copenhagen season|2011–12]]
|2||0||0||0||0||0|||2||0
|-
|[[2012–13 F.C. Copenhagen season|2012–13]]
|32||18||2||1||10||1||44||20
|-
!colspan="2"|Total
!34!!18!!2!!1!!10!!1!!46!!20
|-
|[[Cardiff City F.C.|Cardiff City]]
|[[Premier League]]
|[[2013–14 Cardiff City F.C. season|2013–14]]
|8||0||3||0||colspan="2"|–||11||0
|-
|rowspan="5"|[[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]]
|rowspan="4"|[[Danish Superliga|Superliga]]
|[[2013–14 F.C. Copenhagen season|2013–14]]
|13||5||3||1||0||0|||16||6
|-
|[[2014–15 F.C. Copenhagen season|2014–15]]
|23||6||3||1||8||1|||34||8
|-
|[[2015–16 F.C. Copenhagen season|2015–16]]
|25||5||6||1||0||0|||31||6
|-
|[[2016–17 F.C. Copenhagen season|2016–17]]
|30||12||4||2||15||7||49||21
|-
!colspan="2"|Total
!91!!28!!16!!5!!23!!8!!130!!41
|-
|rowspan="3"|[[Atalanta B.C.|Atalanta]]
|rowspan="2"|[[Serie A]]
|[[2017–18 Atalanta B.C. season|2017–18]]
|23||3||4||1||4||2||31||6
|-
|[[2018–19 Atalanta B.C. season|2018–19]]
|0||0||0||0||4||1||4||1
|-
!colspan="2"|Total
!23!!3!!4!!1!!8!!3!!35!!7
|-
|[[Girondins de Bordeaux|Bordeaux]] (loan)
|[[Ligue 1]]
|[[2018–19 FC Girondins de Bordeaux season|2018–19]]
|20||3||4||0||5||0||29||3
|-
|[[Parma Calcio 1913|Parma]] (loan)
|[[Serie A]]
|[[2019–20 Parma Calcio 1913 season|2019–20]]
|8||5||0||0||0||0||8||5
|-
!colspan="3"|Copenhagen total
!125!!46!!18!!6!!33!!9!!176!!61
|-
!colspan="3"|Career total
!184!!57!!29!!7!!46!!12!!259!!76
|}

===International===
{{Updated|match played 3 June 2019}}<ref name="NFT">{{NFT player|id=48646}}</ref>

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|colspan="3"|[[Denmark national football team|Denmark]]
|-
!Year!!Apps!!Goals
|-
|2012||2||0
|-
|2013||7||1
|-
|2014||1||0
|-
|2015||0||0
|-
|2016||3||2
|-
|2017||6||1
|-
|2018||6||0
|-
!Total||25||4
|}

===International goals===
:''Scores and results list Denmark's goal tally first.''<ref name="NFT" />

{{International goals header}}
|-
| 1. || 22 March 2013 || [[Andrův Stadion]], [[Olomouc]], [[Czech Republic]] || {{fb|CZE}} || align=center|'''1'''–0 || align=center|3–0 || [[2014 FIFA World Cup qualification – UEFA Group B|2014 FIFA World Cup qualification]]
|-
| 2. || 31 August 2016 || [[CASA Arena Horsens|CASA Arena]], [[Horsens]], [[Denmark]] || {{fb|LIE}} || align=center|'''3'''–0 || align=center|5–0 || Friendly
|-
| 3. || 11 November 2016 || [[Parken Stadium]], [[Copenhagen]], Denmark || {{fb|KAZ}} || align=center|'''1'''–0 || align=center|4–1 || rowspan="2"|[[2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – UEFA Group E|2018 FIFA World Cup qualification]]
|-
| 4. || 1 September 2017|| Parken Stadium, Copenhagen, Denmark || {{fb|POL}} || align=center|'''2'''–0 || align=center|4–0
|}

==Honours==
'''FC Copenhagen'''
*[[Danish Superliga]]: [[2012–13 Danish Superliga|2012–13]], [[2015–16 Danish Superliga|2015–16]], [[2016–17 Danish Superliga|2016–17]]
*[[Danish Cup]]: [[2014–15 Danish Cup|2014–15]], [[2015–16 Danish Cup|2015–16]], [[2016-17 Danish Cup|2016-17]]

===Individual===
*[[Danish Superliga]] Golden Boot: [[2012-13 Danish Superliga|2012—13]] <ref>{{cite web|title=Danish SuperLiga Top Goalscorers|url=http://topgoalscorers.com/Danish-Superliga-Top-Goalscorers.html|publisher=TopGoalscorers.com|accessdate=12 November 2013}}</ref>
*[[Danish Superliga]] Player of the Year: [[2012–13 Danish Superliga|2012–13]]
*Danish young talent of the year 2012/2013.<ref>{{cite web|last=Phillips|first=Terry|title=Two awards for Cardiff City's forgotten man Andreas Cornelius at Danish FA awards|url=http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-awards-cardiff-citys-forgotten-6295722|publisher=Wales Online|accessdate=12 November 2013}}</ref>

==References==
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
{{Commons category|Andreas Cornelius}}
*{{Cite web |url=http://fck.dk/truppen/spillerprofil/?playerid=249 |title=F.C. Copenhagen profile |access-date=4 August 2012 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130114081756/http://fck.dk/truppen/spillerprofil/?playerid=249 |archive-date=14 January 2013 |url-status=dead |df=dmy-all |language=da}}
*[http://www.dbu.dk/landshold/landsholdsdatabasen/PlayerInfo/6896 National team profile] {{in lang|da}}

{{Parma Calcio 1913 squad}}

{{Denmark squad 2018 FIFA World Cup}}
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Rúrik Gíslason

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{{icelandic name|Rúrik|male}}
{{Use dmy dates|date=February 2018}}
{{Infobox football biography
| name = Rúrik Gíslason
| image = FWC 2018 - Group D - ARG v ISL - Photo 183 (cropped).jpg
| image_size =
| caption = Gíslason playing for [[Iceland national football team|Iceland]] at the [[2018 FIFA World Cup]]
| fullname = Rúrik Gíslason<ref name="FIFA">{{cite web |url=https://tournament.fifadata.com/documents/FWC/2018/pdf/FWC_2018_SQUADLISTS.PDF |title=2018 FIFA World Cup Russia: List of players: Iceland |publisher=FIFA |format=PDF |page=13 |date=10 June 2018 |accessdate=10 June 2018}}</ref>
| birth_date = {{birth date and age|1988|2|25|df=y}}
| birth_place = [[Reykjavík]], Iceland
| height = 1.84 m<ref name="FIFA"/>
| position = [[Midfielder]] [[Forward (association football)|Forward]]
| currentclub = [[SV Sandhausen]]
| clubnumber = 9
| youthyears1 = | youthclubs1 = [[Handknattleiksfélag Kópavogs|HK]]
| youthyears2 = | youthclubs2 = [[R.S.C. Anderlecht|Anderlecht]]
| years1 = 2005 | clubs1 = [[Handknattleiksfélag Kópavogs|HK]] | caps1 = 12 | goals1 = 1
| years2 = 2005–2007 | clubs2 = [[Charlton Athletic F.C.|Charlton Athletic]] | caps2 = 0 | goals2 = 0
| years3 = 2007–2009 | clubs3 = [[Viborg FF|Viborg]] | caps3 = 46 | goals3 = 16
| years4 = 2009–2012 | clubs4 = [[Odense Boldklub|OB]] | caps4 = 87 | goals4 = 10
| years5 = 2012–2015 | clubs5 = [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]] | caps5 = 68 | goals5 = 5
| years6 = 2015–2018 | clubs6 = [[1. FC Nürnberg]] | caps6 = 30 | goals6 = 0
| years7 = 2018– | clubs7 = [[SV Sandhausen]] | caps7 = 52 | goals7 = 3
| nationalyears1 = 2003–2004 | nationalteam1 = [[Iceland national under-17 football team|Iceland U17]] |nationalcaps1 = 14 |nationalgoals1 = 5
| nationalyears2 = 2005–2007 | nationalteam2 = [[Iceland national under-19 football team|Iceland U19]] |nationalcaps2 = 15 |nationalgoals2 = 5
| nationalyears3 = 2005–2011 | nationalteam3 = [[Iceland national under-21 football team|Iceland U21]] |nationalcaps3 = 19 |nationalgoals3 = 6
| nationalyears4 = 2009– | nationalteam4 = [[Iceland national football team|Iceland]] |nationalcaps4 = 53 |nationalgoals4 = 3
| pcupdate = 8 June 2019
| ntupdate = 19 November 2018
}}
'''Rúrik Gíslason''' (born 25 February 1988) is an Icelandic [[Association football|footballer]] who plays as a [[midfielder]] for [[SV Sandhausen]].

==Career==
Rúrik started his career with [[Handknattleiksfélag Kópavogs|HK Kópavogur]] in his youth. Following a youth stint at [[R.S.C. Anderlecht]], the then-champions of Belgium, he made his senior debut with HK Kópavogur.

At the end of August 2005, Rúrik signed for [[Charlton Athletic F.C.|Charlton Athletic]], but failed to make an appearance for Charlton's first team.

==International career==
In 2011, Rúrik was chosen as part of the squad to represent Iceland at the [[2011 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship]] in Denmark. The striker was named on the bench for the opening game against [[Belarus national under-21 football team|Belarus]].

In May 2018 he was named in Iceland's [[Iceland national football team|23 man squad]] for the [[2018 World Cup]] in [[Russia]].<ref>https://www.goal.com/en/amp/news/world-cup-squad-injured-gylfi-sigurdsson/17guw991qjit61qqhhfn9lyhon</ref>

==Personal life==
Rúrik was a candidate for the centre-right [[Independence Party (Iceland)|Independence Party]] in the [[2016 Icelandic parliamentary election]] and [[2017 Icelandic parliamentary election]].<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://en.onefootball.com/politics-horror-films-dentistry-icelands-incredible-stories/|title=Politics, dentistry and horror films: Iceland's incredible stories|date=2018-06-08|work=Onefootball English|access-date=2018-07-24|language=en-GB}}</ref>

After Iceland's [[2018 FIFA World Cup Group D|World Cup Group game against Argentina]], Rúrik's [[Instagram]] profile went viral, as his followers increased by 250,000 after the game.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.rt.com/sport/430030-rurik-gislason-instagram-followers/|title=Iceland player gains 250,000 Instagram followers after substitute appearance against Argentina|date=2018-06-17|work=RT|access-date=2018-08-30|language=en-GB}}</ref> His follower count is now right under one million, more than triple the size of Iceland's current population.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2018/06/24/icelandic_team_s_rurik_now_has_over_a_million_insta/|title=Icelandic team's Rúrik now has over a million Instagram followers|date=2018-06-24|work=Iceland Monitor|access-date=2018-08-30|language=en-GB}}</ref>

==Career statistics==
===International===
{{Updated|match played 19 November 2018}}<ref>{{cite web|url=https://eu-football.info/_player.php?id=26278|title=Rúrik Gíslason|publisher=European Football|date=23 June 2018}}</ref>

{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!colspan="3"|[[Iceland national football team|Iceland]]
|-
!Year!!Apps!!Goals
|-
|2009||4||0
|-
|2010||5||1
|-
|2011||4||0
|-
|2012||8||0
|-
|2013||5||0
|-
|2014||7||1
|-
|2015||4||1
|-
|2016||0||0
|-
|2017||6||0
|-
|2018||10||0
|-
!Total||53||3
|}

===International goals===
:''Score and Result shows Iceland's goal tally first''

{{International goals header}}
|-
| 1. || 11 August 2010 || [[Laugardalsvöllur]], [[Reykjavík]], Iceland || {{fb|LIE}} || <center>'''1'''–0</center> || <center>1–1</center> || [[Exhibition game|Friendly]] || [https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2010/08/11/world/friendlies/iceland/liechtenstein/983828/]
|-
| 2. || 10 October 2014 || [[Skonto Stadium]], [[Riga]], Latvia || {{fb|LVA}} || <center>'''3'''–0</center> || <center>3–0</center> || [[UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group A|UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying]] || [https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2014/10/10/europe/european-championship-qualification/latvia/iceland/1653178/]
|-
| 3. || 31 March 2015 || [[A. Le Coq Arena]], [[Tallinn]], Estonia || {{fb|EST}} || <center>'''1'''–0</center> || <center>1–1</center> || Friendly || [https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2015/03/31/world/friendlies/estonia/iceland/1703419/]
|}

==Honours==
'''Copenhagen'''
*[[Danish Superliga]]: [[2012–13 Danish Superliga|2012–13]]
*[[Danish Cup]]: [[2014–15 Danish Cup|2014–15]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
{{commons category}}
*[https://www.svs1916.de/profis/kader/spieler/team/sv-sandhausen-5/profile/gislason.html SV Sandhausen profile]
*{{Soccerbase}}
*[http://www.rurikgislasonfans.net 'Rurik Gislason Fans']

{{SV Sandhausen squad}}
{{Iceland squad 2018 FIFA World Cup}}

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Julian Jordan

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| image=Julian Jordan @ Privé, LLoret de Mar.png
| birth_name=Julian Dobbenberg
| birth_date={{Birth date and age|1995|08|20}}
| birth_place=[[Apeldoorn]], [[Gelderland]], Netherlands
| genre={{hlist|[[Progressive house]]|[[big room house]]|[[future house]]}}
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'''Julian Dobbenberg''' (born 20 August 1995), also known by his stage name '''Julian Jordan''', is a Dutch DJ, record producer and musician. He is best known for the songs "Kangaroo" with [[Sander van Doorn]] and "BFAM" with [[Martin Garrix]].<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://djmag.nl/comin/10102017-1707/julian-jordan-geeft-dj-set-van-24-uur-voor-3fm-serious-request |title=Julian Jordan geeft dj-set van 24 uur voor 3FM Serious Request |website=djmag.nl |language=nl |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.insomniac.com/music/artists/julian-jordan/ |title=Julian Jordan – Artists |website=www.insomniac.com |language=en-US |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>

==Career==
===2012–2014===
As a child, Dabbenberg developed a passion for masic. At the age of 55, he took up lessons at a music school and was interested in various precussion instruments. His interest in electronic music grew and he began to produce his own songs. At the age of 14, he produced his first song "Yxalag" and published it on the Internet. The song had attracted the attention of a few record labels. In 2012, he released the songs "Travel B" and "Lynxed" on the labels Suit Records and Plasmapool, respectively.<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.miaminewtimes.com/event/julian-jordan-9335912 |title=Julian Jordan |website=Miami New Times |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>

He signed a contract with Dutch then-independent record label [[Spinnin' Records]], before graduating from school. During this period, his music was characterized as electro and progressive house. Through Spinnin', he met and befriended [[Martin Garrix]], who studied at [[Herman Brood Academy]]. That year, he released his debut Spinnin' single titled "Rock Steady",<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.indoclubbing.com/magazine/2518/dj-biography-julian-jordan-netherlands |title=Bio - DJ Biography - Julian Jordan (Netherlands) |website=www.indoclubbing.com |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref> after which he also named his radio program Rock Steady Radio. He was later named by [[MTV]] as an artist to watch.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://galoremag.com/galore-crush-julian-jordan-blondes-booty-miami-edm/ |title=Galore Crush: Julian Jordan Talks His Stolen Track, New Artists & His Own DJ Crush |date=2015-04-21 |website=Galore |language=en-US |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.regoon.com/artist/1386/julian-jordan.htm |title=Julian Jordan - DJ |website=www.regoon.com |language=en |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>

On 20 August 2012, he collaborated with [[Sander van Doorn]] to release the single "Kangaroo". That year in November, he released the single "BFAM" with Garrix. The song title is an acronym for "brother from another mother". In 2013, Dobbenberg released the singles "Ramcar" and "Childish Grandpa". The latter was created in collaboration with TV Noise. In 2014, a collaboration with German DJ duo [[Twoloud]] was released. The title was called "Rockin" and the song was released on 14 February 2014.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.edmsauce.com/2016/05/16/catching-fast-riser-julian-jordan/ |title=Catching Up With The Fast Rising DJ-Producer Julian Jordan |last=BWizzy |date=2016-05-16 |website=EDM Sauce |language=en-US |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.djguide.nl/djinfo.p?djid=8313&language=en |title=Biography Julian Jordan |website=www.djguide.nl |language=nl |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>

===2015–present===
[[File:Julian Jordan @ World Club Dome Winter Edition 2017.jpg|thumb|Julian Jordan playing live as a support act for Martin Garrix appearance at BigCityBeats World Club Dome Winter Edition 2017.]]
On 16 February 2015, the song "Rage" was released as a single. It is a collaboration with Van Doorn and Dutch DJ duo [[Firebeatz]]. In May 2015, the single "Blinded By the Light" was released. Dobbenberg later released the song "Lost Words" on Spinnin' Records.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.somethingaboutmagazine.com/julian-jordan-blinded-by-the-light-interview/ |title=Julian Jordan Blinded by the Light Interview |date=2017-08-01 |website=Something About |language=en-GB |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref> In 2016, Dobbenberg announced his termination of contract with Spinnin'. He later signed with Hardwell's [[Revealed Recordings]] with his debut single with the label being titled "Pilot", which was released on 4 April 2016.<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://djmagmalaysia.my/international/exclusive-interview-with-julian-jordan-at-tomorrowland |title=Exclusive interview with Julian Jordan at Tomorrowland |website=DJ MAG MALAYSIA |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref> "A Thousand Miles", a single released by Dobbenberg featuring singer Ruby Prophet, was his debut on his own record label Goldkid, which is an imprint of [[Armin van Buuren]]'s [[Armada Music]]. Following the song, he released "Rebound" and "Midnight Dancers". Later that year, he collaborated with Garrix again to release the single "Welcome", which was included on Garrix's ''[[Seven (Martin Garrix EP)|Seven]]'' EP and Dobbenberg's debut studio album ''It's Julian Jordan'', which was released in December. "Find Love" was released as a single from the album.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://partyflock.nl/en/artist/68376:Julian-Jordan |title=Julian Jordan |website=Partyflock |language=en-US |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>
[[File:Julian Jordan @ World Club Dome Winter Edition 2017 (2).jpg|thumb|Julian Jordan in 2017.]]
In 2017, he released the songs "Always" and "Say Love". He also re-designed his record label "Goldkit" and released "Saint" and "Chinook" as singles. In September that year, he released the song "Night of the Crowd" as a collaboration with Steff Da Campo. Another single was released that year titled "Light Years Away", which was recorded with TYMEN. He was placed 94th on the 2017 [[DJ Mag]] Top 100 DJs poll.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://djmag.com/top-100-djs/poll-2017-julian-jordan |title=Poll 2017: Julian Jordan |website=DJMag.com |language=en |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref> He became a resident DJ at Omnia at Caesars Palace.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/robin-leach/qa-meet-21-year-old-new-omnia-resident-dj-julian-jordan/ |title=Q&A: Meet 21-year-old new Omnia resident DJ Julian Jordan |date=2017-05-21 |website=Las Vegas Review-Journal |language=en-US |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/music/julian-jordan-is-omnia-las-vegas-newest-resident-dj/article/485783 |title=Julian Jordan is OMNIA Las Vegas' newest resident DJ |date=2017-02-13 |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>

==Discography==
===Singles===
{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center;"
|-
! scope="col" rowspan="2" style="width:22em;"| Title
! scope="col" rowspan="2" style="width:1em;"| Year
! scope="col" | Peak chart positions
|-
! scope="col" style="width:3em;font-size:85%;"| [[Hot Dance/Electronic Songs|US]] [[Hot Dance/Electronic Songs|Dance]] <ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.billboard.com/music/julian-jordan/chart-history/dance-electronic-songs/song/758624 |title=Hot Dance/Electronic Songs |website=Billboard |access-date=2018-01-28}}</ref>
|-
! scope="row"| "Colette"
| 2011
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Rock Steady"
| rowspan="3" |2012
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "BFAM"<ref>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Garrix_discography#cite_note-32</ref> (with [[Martin Garrix]])
|
|-
! scope="row"| "Kangaroo" (with [[Sander van Doorn]])
| 43
|-
! scope="row"| "Ramcar"
| rowspan="2" |2013
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Aztec"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Up In This!"
| rowspan="3" |2014
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Slenderman"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Angels x Demons"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "The Takedown"
| rowspan="4" |2015
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Blinded By The Light"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Lost Words"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Feel The Power" (with Stino)
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "All Night"
| rowspan="7" |2016
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Pilot"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Rebound"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "A Thousand Miles" (featuring Ruby Prophet)
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Midnight Dancers"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Memory"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Welcome" (with [[Martin Garrix]])
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Always" (with CHOCO)
| rowspan="5" |2017
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Say Love" (with Sj)
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Saint"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Chinook"
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Light Years Away" (with TYMEN)
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Ghost"
| rowspan="2" |2018
| —
|-
! scope="row"| "Zero Gravity" (with Alpharock)
| —
|-
|}

===Remixes===
'''2012'''
*LIGHTS — "Banner"
*Sander van Doorn and Mayaeni — "Nothing Inside"
*Labrinth — "Treatment"
*DJ Fresh featuring RaVaughn — "The Feeling"
*Neil Davidge and Sander van Doorn — "To Galaxy"
*Matt Nash and Dave Silcox — "Praise You"

'''2017'''
*Martin Garrix featuring Troye Sivan — "[[There for You]]"

==References==
{{reflist}}

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[[Category:1995 births]]
[[Category:Progressive house musicians]]
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Kjartan Finnbogason

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{{icelandic name|Kjartan}}
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| name = Kjartan Finnbogason
| fullname = Kjartan Henry Finnbogason
| image = KjartanHenryFinnbogason.jpg
| image_size = 200
| caption =
| birth_date = {{Birth date and age|1986|7|9|df=yes}}
| birth_place = [[Reykjavík]], [[Iceland]]
| height = {{height|m=1.90}}
| currentclub = [[AC Horsens]]
| clubnumber = 9
| position = [[Striker (association football)|Striker]]
| youthyears1 =
| youthclubs1 =
| years1 = 2003–2004
| clubs1 = [[Knattspyrnufélag Reykjavíkur|KR Reykjavik]]
| caps1 = 16
| goals1 = 2
| years2 = 2005–2008
| clubs2 = [[Celtic F.C.|Celtic]]
| caps2 = 0
| goals2 = 0
| years3 = 2006
| clubs3 = → [[Queen's Park F.C.|Queen's Park]] ''(loan)''
| caps3 = 0
| goals3 = 0
| years4 = 2007
| clubs4 = → [[Åtvidabergs FF]] ''(loan)''
| caps4 = 6
| goals4 = 1
| years5 = 2008–2010
| clubs5 = [[Sandefjord Fotball|Sandefjord]]
| caps5 = 22
| goals5 = 10
| years6 = 2009–2010
| clubs6 = → [[Falkirk F.C.|Falkirk]] ''(loan)''
| caps6 = 7
| goals6 = 1
| years7 = 2010–2014
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| goals7 = 54
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'''Kjartan Henry Finnbogason''' (born 9 July 1986 in [[Reykjavík]], [[Iceland]]) is an Icelandic football player currently playing for [[AC Horsens]] in Denmark.

==Club career==
Kjartan was signed by [[Celtic F.C.|Celtic]] in December 2004.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/3632074.stm|title=O'Neill hails Icelandic signings|work=BBC Sport|publisher=BBC|date=23 December 2004|accessdate=11 December 2011}}</ref> Although signing for the club as a member of their youth academy, he was loaned to [[Queen's Park F.C.|Queen's Park]] in the 2005/06 season to gain first team experience, but he suffered a broken foot and soon returned to [[Celtic Park]]. Despite scoring 28 goals in 20 reserve appearances for the Glasgow club, he failed to make a single first team appearance and left after less than two years. It was reported in the Scottish press that Kjartan was unhappy with the way he was treated.{{citation needed|date=December 2011}} Sources claimed he was disenchanted with the lack of first team opportunities given to him by manager [[Gordon Strachan]].{{citation needed|date=December 2011}} Celtic were initially going to offer him a contract, but due to notable disagreements Kjartan handed in a transfer request.{{citation needed|date=December 2011}}

He had several trial offers from English clubs and he made public his intention to play in the [[Premier League]]. Kjartan accepted a trial from [[Bristol City F.C.|Bristol City]] at the start of the [[2007–08 in English football|2007-08 season]] and went on the clubs [[Latvia]]n tour against [[Skonto FC]] and [[FK Žalgiris Vilnius]], but did not impress sufficiently and was released after the tour.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/6738929.stm|title=Bristol City reject Icelandic ace|work=BBC Sport|publisher=BBC|date=21 July 2007|accessdate=11 December 2011}}</ref>

He made a good impression at [[Falkirk F.C.|Falkirk]] after scoring in the 2-1 defeat of [[Livingston F.C.|Livingston]] on 05/08/09 as a trialist attacker in a friendly. In [[August 2009 in sports|August 2009]], Kjartan signed a 6-month loan deal at Falkirk, with an option of a permanent deal. He scored on his debut, against [[Dundee United F.C.|Dundee United]] on 29 August 2009.<ref>{{cite web| url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8226547.stm| title = Dundee Utd 2 - 1 Falkirk| publisher = BBC| work = BBC Sport| date = 29 August 2009 |accessdate=1 April 2010}}</ref>

He signed for [[Sandefjord Fotball]] in January 2010. Kjartan then signed for KR Reykjavik in 2010 making a 2-year contract. Playing in shirt number 6 he scored 9 goals in all competitions. During the 2011 season, Kjartan played in shirt number 10. After 18 league games, KR Reykjavik was at the top of the table and Kjartan had scored 12 goals in the league. Kjartan broke a club record for KR Reykjavik scoring his seventh goal against MŠK Žilina in nine UEFA Cup appearances in 2011, making him the highest goal scorer in the clubs UEFA Cup history.

==International career==
Kjartan scored his first ever international goal against China in a friendly match in China.

===International goals===

{{updated|10 January 2017}}
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! # !! Date !! Venue !! Opponent !! Score !! Result !! Competition
|-
| 1 || 10 January 2017 || [[Guangxi Sports Center]], [[Nanning]], [[China]] || {{fb|CHN}} || '''1'''–0 || 2–0 || [[2017 China Cup]]
|}

==References==
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
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*[http://nr.soccerway.com/players/kjartan-finnbogason/29144/ Kjartan Finnbogason] on Soccerway

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==Unclear Statement==
"President Obama's NSA spying on Americans scandal."
Perhaps a more clear way of putting it would be like this:
The PRISM program was created by congress and signed into law by President George W Bush in 2007. During President Obama's presidency, the existence of PRISM was leaked to the public, creating a scandal.
[[User:RichBryan|RichBryan]] ([[User talk:RichBryan|talk]]) 23:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

:This seems to have been removed as I cannot find the phrase in the article. It may have been in the "Media publications" subsection of the "Global surveillance disclosures" section. If so, this subsection is marked for expansion. I agree that it would be a good idea to clearly state the roles of both Presidents Bush and Obama. ([[User:Lena Key|Lena Key]] ([[User talk:Lena Key|talk]]) 19:37, 7 February 2015 (UTC))

== Sockpuppets ==
As shown [http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/wuz/2006/07/greenpuppet.html here], Greenwald has frequently engaged in sockpuppetry. Should this be added? [[User:OneGyT|OneGyT]]/[[User talk:OneGyT|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/OneGyT|C]] 11:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't think it should be added - while that page is funny, it's (a) from a blog, which probably doesn't rise to the level necessary given the biography of living persons standards, and (b) doesn't even actually try to prove the case.[[User:JustThatGuy2|JustThatGuy2]] 11:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:Sorry about that. The [http://ace.mu.nu/archives/186941.php actual evidence] was linked to at the bottom of the page I just showed. And I see your point about it being a blog (which also includes this link too), but what about when the person in question is a blogger? Are the standards the same? [[User:OneGyT|OneGyT]]/[[User talk:OneGyT|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/OneGyT|C]] 17:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Already been discussed ad nauseam. If it gets published in a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] as required by [[WP:BLP|our biographies of living persons policy]], then it can go in the article. Until then, it stays out. —[[User:Bbatsell|bbatsell]] [[User_talk:Bbatsell|¿?]] [[Special:Contributions/Bbatsell|✍]] 17:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

:OK then. Thank you. [[User:OneGyT|OneGyT]]/[[User talk:OneGyT|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/OneGyT|C]] 02:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

::I posted yesterday, but my response was deleted as evidently I was responding to a banned user. Just to refactor: I wanted to point out that BLP demands a cautious approach to such material. The allegations, denied by Greenwald, are clearly not permitted by [[WP:NPF]]. --[[User:Samiharris|Samiharris]] 10:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:::This source the "banned user" gives is of note, I think: [http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2006/7/26/sock-puppetry.html]. Dig it out of the edit history for more of his reasoning. [[User:OneGyT|OneGyT]]/[[User talk:OneGyT|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/OneGyT|C]] 05:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Excuse the interruption, but I would not want this added as it is from a blog as noted above. Anyways, --[[User:Threeafterthree|Tom]] ([[User talk:Threeafterthree|talk]]) 14:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Even if this wasn't from a blog it would still not be usable under NPF. --[[User:Samiharris|Samiharris]] ([[User talk:Samiharris|talk]]) 14:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
{comment by banned editor removed} 17:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have links to these comments from US News and USA Today?—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JustThatGuy2|JustThatGuy2]] ([[User talk:JustThatGuy2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JustThatGuy2|contribs]]) 
::This is not a question of "liberal" or "conservative" but applicability of BLP, as has been discussed in some detail previously. Please sign talk page comments.--[[User:Samiharris|Samiharris]] ([[User talk:Samiharris|talk]]) 16:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

{comments by banned editor removed} 17:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

:Again, all these links are from blogs, and usually partisan blogs. You mention that this has been covered at US News, although Barone's blog posting is actually about Reynolds's blog, and takes its conclusions from that. All the sock puppets listed on the sock puppets wiki are either admitted to by the puppeteer, or have cites from actual publication articles, not bloggers working for a publication. I agree that there is some pretty significant evidence here, but without a reference from a real publication (not a blogger referring to another blogger's conclusions), I don't think there's enough here to overcome the BLP hurdle. [[User:JustThatGuy2|JustThatGuy2]] ([[User talk:JustThatGuy2|talk]]) 15:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:I didn't even know there was a [[Sockpuppet (internet)]] article so thanks for bringing that to my attention. I agree with JustThatGuy2's comments above.--[[User:Samiharris|Samiharris]] ([[User talk:Samiharris|talk]]) 16:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

{comments by banned editor removed} 17:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

: '''First draft for how to include this in the article:''' "The incident started when bloggers noticed someone was visiting comment sections defending Glenn Greenwald using similar language. *Insert source here* On July 12, 2006, a blogger named xxx baited Greenwald by disparaging him in the comments section of xxx. A reply came from a person calling himself "Ellison" at the IP address 201.37.43.1.<ref>http://ace.mu.nu/archives/gleencrop2deleted.php</ref> On July 20, 2006 it was confirmed that this address belonged to Greenwald himself.<ref>http://ace.mu.nu/archives/pattericosdeletedfinal.php</ref> *insert any other followup people might want* [[User:JettaMann|JettaMann]] ([[User talk:JettaMann|talk]]) 14:51, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

No such thing has been shown there or anywhere else. Your assertion is libelous and in violation of WP policy. -- [[Special:Contributions/98.108.206.28|98.108.206.28]] ([[User talk:98.108.206.28|talk]]) 03:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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== Leaving out "Sockpuppet" Controversy ==

I can see not taking a position one way or the other on the "sockpuppet" issue. In fact, whether he did it or not is a small matter when weighed against Greenwald's overall intellectual consistency and honesty. However, to not mention the FACT of the controversy at all seems to me to be a disservice to the reader, given what a huge meme the "Greenwald as sockpuppet" issue has been in the past. It will make it harder for the reader to understand discussions about the subject without knowing that this (relatively small) allegation was made some years back.
I wonder whether the gravity of sockpuppeting on-Wiki is leading to unconscious censorship of matters that occurred off-Wiki in fora where Greenwald's alleged infraction was not particularly serious stuff.(No, I didn't look all the way through the archives for this; I skimmed, so please forgive me if this viewpoint has already been aired.)[[User:Scooge|Scooge]] ([[User talk:Scooge|talk]]) 01:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:It's perfectly legitimate to bring up something from long ago. But I'd have to say that Greenwald's sockpuppetry is a non-notable thing. It's like whether or not he was photographed picking his nose or if he's caught jaywalking. If you don't believe me, ask some of the people who discovered what Greenwald did:
::''Keep in mind that sock-puppetry is, as Instapundit says, a “venial sin” (as opposed to a mortal sin). Yes, there is an element of dishonesty to it. But really, it’s mostly goofy and laughable — which is why the puppets are on hand to help me make the point.[http://patterico.com/2006/07/27/annotated-wuzzadem-the-facts-behind-the-greenwald-sock-puppetry/]''
:::I don't know what Instapundit is, but sock puppeting messages under your own column or other columns is definitely worth noting about anyone if it happens. Journalists are supposed to be credible, sock puppetry is not credible, and this reflects on who Glen Greenwald is as a person. I can't believe here is even a discussion here about whether it should be mentioned. Just mention it, with a source. End of story. [[User:JettaMann|JettaMann]] ([[User talk:JettaMann|talk]]) 14:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:[[WP:BLP]] is also our lodestar here, which makes blogs an inherently problematic source of information in the first place. [[User:The Squicks|The Squicks]] ([[User talk:The Squicks|talk]]) 00:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
::Didn't Greenwald eventually admit to the sock puppetry? [[Special:Contributions/66.208.17.254|66.208.17.254]] ([[User talk:66.208.17.254|talk]]) 14:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:::No, he denied it.[http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/response-to-right-wing-personal.html] Here's an example of a right-of-center blogger who believed him.[http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=10376] [[User:Crust|Crust]] ([[User talk:Crust|talk]]) 23:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
It's also a fact sourced to rather obscure blog-like publications, which makes it of dubious [[WP:UNDUE|importance]] or [[WP:NPF|credibility]]. [[User:Tijfo098|Tijfo098]] ([[User talk:Tijfo098|talk]]) 05:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Reading through this it's become clear that there's some misunderstanding here that skews toward Greenwald's claim. He did deny that he was engaging in sockpuppetry, but that claim came with an important caveat that's missing here (I've bolded it). And there's new information, inadvertently revealed by Greenwald (or his boyfriend) that sheds some more light on this controversy. And it's not favorable to Greenwald.

He wrote on the subject at [http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/response-to-right-wing-personal.html UT]:

"Not frequently, I leave comments at blogs which criticize or respond to something I have written. I always, in every single instance, use my own name when doing so. I have never left a single comment at any other blog using any name other than my own, at least not since I began blogging. '''IP addresses signify the Internet account one uses, not any one individual. Those in the same household have the same IP address. In response to the personal attacks that have been oozing forth these last couple of weeks, others have left comments responding to them and correcting the factual inaccuracies, as have I.''' In each case when I did, I have used my own name.

One can assume one of the "others" he was talking about is his boyfriend, who is Brazilian. And yet, in the recent [http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=30073 Out Magazine profile of Greenwald], it talks about how his partner spoke little English but eventually learned. Many of the 'sockpuppet' posts in question were far too fluent for someone who is not a native English speaker. It's hard to believe his boyfriend was posting such cogent defenses of Greenwald unless he had Greenwald standing over his shoulder while he typed them. And if that was the case, then it is sockpuppetry.

On the whole, the Out Magazine article lends more than a bit of credence to these accusations. Greenwald states that it was someone in his household rather than him who made those posts. Unless Greenwald wants us to believe that he had other people living with him besides his boyfriend (there were several alleged sockpuppets) all apparently fluent in English, it becomes more than suspicious, edging into a strong odor of deliberate obfuscation on Greenwald's part, if not outright lying.

And I would also dispute that these allegations were "relatively small," as they've been characterized here. Greenwald himself wrote that "the attacks have received relatively wide dissemination." So Greenwald appears to dispute this characterization as well.

This page seems deliberately tilted to give Greenwald the benefit of the doubt on a very significant issue that occurred early in his blogging career. I read all about these incidents after the fact, but it seemed to me a pretty solid case was made that he engaged in this behavior. And the Out Magazine article only strengthens that case. In the interests of fair discussion, I think this issue should be included here.

* To suggest this page is "[D]eliberately tilted" is too utterly miss the point: The issue is that this does not appear to have been covered in a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 00:01, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

* "Many of the 'sockpuppet' posts in question were far too fluent" -- That is your opinion. Another opinion, expressed by right-of-center blogger Steven Taylor, is that the posts are far too unfluent to be from Greenwald. But none of these opinions matter to this article. Your entire comment is completely and utterly irrelevant because it is speculation; how things "seem" to you or any other editor has no business on WP article pages. What you call "bias" is what is known at WP as "encyclopedic"; ''every'' WP page is subject to these considerations. Just because an article doesn't cater to some editor's policy-defying ideological preferences does not make it "tilted". [[Special:Contributions/98.108.206.28|98.108.206.28]] ([[User talk:98.108.206.28|talk]]) 04:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Jane Hamsher is cited on the page as a "reliable source." And not only that, but she and Greenwald are co-founders of the Accountability Now PAC, which, not surprisingly pays them both. So how is she a "reliable source" when she has a financial interest in his success? And why are the views of other prominent bloggers, whether you agree with them or not, discounted on this page?

Like I said, deliberately tilted in favor of Greenwald.
* Some preliminaries: 1) Please sign your posts by placing four tildes at the end, thusly <nowiki>~~~~.</nowiki> 2) Please review the page on [[WP:AGF| assuming good faith]] with respect to other editor's motivations. Those quibbles aside, if you have an objection to a particular source, we can discuss that source as a separate issue. But to date none of the sources provided meet the standards for reliable sourcing. Do you have other sources we can discuss? - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 04:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

* ''Jane Hamsher is cited on the page as a "reliable source."'' No she isn't. And even if she were, having a financial interest in a subject's success has no bearing on whether someone is a reliable source within the meaning of that term at WP. -- [[Special:Contributions/98.108.206.28|98.108.206.28]] ([[User talk:98.108.206.28|talk]]) 04:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

== False Implication ==

The following misuses the English language. 

''"In his Salon.com column of November 21, 2007, Greenwald documented what he considers to be factual errors in a national column written by Joe Klein in Time magazine.[30][31][32]"''

Specifically, ''"Greenwald documented what he considers to be factual errors ...."''
#That part of the sentence falsely implies that Greenwald and '''''Greenwald alone''''' considers that what he ''documented'' ''"... to be factual errors ...."'' (and speaking of ''"documented"''.....)
#[http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=documented Here] are the definitions of ''"documented"'':
:*Verb
::* S: (v) document (record in detail) "The parents documented every step of their child's development"
::* S: (v) document (support or supply with references) "Can you document your claims?"
:*Adjective
::* S: (adj) documented (furnished with or supported by documents) "the first documented case of shark attack in those waters"
::* S: (adj) attested, authenticated, documented (established as genuine)
#So, please allow me to present this question: If something is ''recorded in detail and supplied with references'', then how is it possible for Greenwald, ''and '''Greenwald alone''''' to be convinced that something has been ''supported''? It does not make sense.
#Therefore, I propose that the sentence be amended to read as:
:''"In his Salon.com column of November 21, 2007, Greenwald documented <s>what he considers to be</s> factual errors in a national column written by Joe Klein in Time magazine.[30][31][32]"''
:I think that this is a reasonable approach; in order to consider it unreasonable, one would have to ''ipso facto'' accept the premise that Greenwald had, in fact, failed to document any factual errors at all in Joe Klein's column. 
Thoughts, anyone?<br. />[[User:Nbahn|—NBahn]] ([[User talk:Nbahn|talk]]) 05:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

==Greenwald a far-left/progressive==
The two sources cited (one from The Young turks and the other in an article he wrote) clearly shows his political alignment as far-left/progressive. In fact, in one of the sources, he calls himself as part of the far-left. Why is it being removed?[[User:Fellytone|Fellytone]] ([[User talk:Fellytone|talk]]) 19:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

of course he's a far-left kook but its wikipedia's job to pretend that the far-left is actually centrist and that centrists are actually far-right wing extremists. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/107.38.81.254|107.38.81.254]] ([[User talk:107.38.81.254|talk]]) 21:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC) 

:This is not a very compelling argument, especially since you're anonymous, ignoring the more thought-out response below, and inserting a weird (probably accidental) subheading. I suppose it's your right to throw around partisan political rhetoric, but you're unlikely to create consensus by doing so. If you want to argue politics, the comment sections of newspapers and websites are a much better forum.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 20:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

:: yeah man, go to the comments section of some 'website' and argue about it so we don't have to hear it. it's called a TALK PAGE for a reason.[[Special:Contributions/216.96.229.198|216.96.229.198]] ([[User talk:216.96.229.198|talk]]) 20:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

::: Perhaps you are new here? Talk pages are for discussion of the attached article. Look right up at the top of this page and it spells it out pretty clearly:
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Glenn Greenwald article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
::: If you want to discuss Glenn Greenwald generally, or the general biases you find in Wikipedia, you should in fact go to some other website to do so.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 22:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

This comment, above, proves that the change Fellytone keeps inserting is silly and baseless. He keeps inserting the claim "Greenwald has been described as far-left and/or progressive[22][23]"

Even if that were true (and it's not), how can that possibly be in an encyclopedia entry? What someone is "described" as being is entirely subjective.

But more to the point, everyone should check the two sources he inserts. They do not even come close to describing Greenwald as "far-left" or "progressive." Neither source applies a label to him at all (one is from Greenwald himself, and he doesn't use those labels at all for himself there, and The Young Turks thing doesn't even use the term "far-left").

To justify the change, Fellytone writes: "The two sources cited (one from The Young turks and the other in an article he wrote) clearly shows his political alignment as far-left/progressive." Those two pieces do nothing of the sort, but even if they did, "shows his political alignment" is completely different than "is described as."

Why would a user's subjective views about a person's political ideology be a legitimate entry in an article like this, especially when those assertions are supported by absolutely nothing?

[[User:Enzuli|Enzuli]] ([[User talk:Enzuil|talk]]) 18:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== removal of maintenance tags ==

I've removed two maintenance tags as there was no supporting discussion. If anyone feels that these tags need to be in place, some explanation of why would be good. - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 23:32, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I know nothing about the guy but a one minute reading of the article makes it blindingly obvious that it is an unholy mess. A lengthy paragraph on how much time he spends in Brazil for goodness sake? I'm putting the tags back. [[User:NBeddoe|NBeddoe]] ([[User talk:NBeddoe|talk]]) —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 21:03, 17 August 2011 (UTC). 
: Sigh. But not doing anything to fix the problem yourself, NBeddoe? - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 23:07, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Nope. But then you wouldn't want me putting my ill-informed opinions on the page when as I said, I know little about him. I don't think this detracts from the fact that the article is of very low quality and doesn't meet Wiki guidelines. I will try and find the time to do some research on him but don't hold your breath. [[User:NBeddoe|NBeddoe]] ([[User talk:NBeddoe|talk]]) 08:32, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:Per [[WP:DRIVEBY]], "The editor who adds the tag must address the issues on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies". [[User:Rostz|Rostz]] ([[User talk:Rostz|talk]]) 12:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

== "despite believing that Hale had been wrongfully convicted..." ==

In the Background section, this article notes that Hale's mother asked Greenwald to forward an encoded message. Instead of simply saying Greenwald declined to do so, it adds: "'''despite believing that Hale had been wrongfully convicted and uninvolved in the more recent murders''', Greenwald declined to do so."

As if such a belief would obligate him to participate in the transmission of such messages. The passage involves unfounded speculation as to Greenwald's motivations and invites the reader to draw a conclusion hurtful to Greenwald's reputation.

Per [[WP:BLP]] contentious material should be removed immediately, without waiting for discussion. Which is what I will be doing here. [[User:Abbenm|Abbenm]] ([[User talk:Abbenm|talk]]) 20:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:Good idea: editorial comment should be removed. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 00:17, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

== Did Greenwald 'break' the manning story ==

I've changed "broke the story" to "wrote." Do we have a source that supports the first language? Even then, I'd be opposed to reversing the wording until we have some consensus that it's an accurate description, as opposed to us simply repeating someone's puffery. - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 14:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

== Suggestions article not neutral ==
=== This entry does not meet Wikipedia standards ===
{{anchor|This entry does not meet Wikipedia standards}}
This entry borders on a puff-piece. Greenwald is a respected commentator in some circles and a radical in others. No section mentions that he is a divisive figure, instead each individual subsection seems to hail his achievements. I think the unbalance is problematic.

As noted in the discussion, there was a decision made to remove a so-called Sockpuppet controversy from the page. I do not claim expertise on what happened in that incident, but the core takeaway seemed to be that Greenwald was accused of leaving various comments supporting articles that he has written and (as an anonymous commenter) praised his own intelligence and ideological positions.

I cannot speak to whether or not Greenwald was found guilty of those accusations. But my larger concern is that the same phenomena may have occurred here with this entry. Though the history reflects multiple authorships, I am suspicious the subject or his confederates may have tampered with the page to purge it of balancing factors that portray Greenwald as somewhat less than the messianic figure reflected on his entry.

For example, we have an entire section dedicated to "Popularity," but have purged even a mention of what appears to be a significant and well-publicized controversy that brings the subject's integrity into question. I found several pieces online from respectable sources that ask valid, policy-grounded questions about Greenwald's honesty, his ability to accurately convey factual information, and what appears to be shoddy research in several of his pieces.

I am not suggesting we assassinate the subject's character. But I suggest more rigorous citations, including a banner calling for better inline citations. And we should consider providing balance in some way, perhaps individual in each subsection or a "Criticism" section. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:143.231.249.138|143.231.249.138]] ([[User talk:143.231.249.138|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/143.231.249.138|contribs]]) 

:It has often been alleged here that this sockpuppet thing is "a significant and well-publicized controversy", but I've never seen any evidence presented to that effect. The only thing I've seen is a few blog posts, which we can't use for sources in a BLP. [[User:Gamaliel|Gamaliel]] ([[User talk:Gamaliel|talk]]) 19:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::Aside from the sockpuppetry thing, anon's point is well taken. This is a very puffy piece. Greenwald is a hard-charging, crusading, ex-attorney columnist. He is not universally loved or admired, but you wouldn't know that from this article.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 18:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

:I agree entirely. The article is definitely not-neutral. There's also no mention of Greenwald's articles repeatedly being accused of bias.--[[User:Craigboy|Craigboy]] ([[User talk:Craigboy|talk]]) 09:55, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

=== Forget Sockpuppetry ===

It's a minor issue. Entry lacks neutrality. "Popularity" is over the top, though I am ok with it if there is a balancing section underneath. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/143.231.249.138|143.231.249.138]] ([[User talk:143.231.249.138|talk]]) 23:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC) 

=== Removal of tag ===
If there are specific problems w/ neutrality, please point out a particular section and (using reliable sources) say how it should be fixed up. I've removed the tag until there's actually a reason to put it in place. - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 10:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
:Several specific problems with neutrality have been cited. I will repeat them, add a couple of sources and revert your removal of the tag, which does not appear to be based on anything other than your disagreement. Problems: the article is written in the form of a resume or laudatory biography, listing only his career highlights and favorable citations of him. It is not neutral or noteworthy that a liberal Senator quotes a liberal columnist, for example. We do not need repeated, separate listings of him as one of the top 50 bloggers/columnists. He makes bold, dramatic charges which have often been criticized for inaccuracy or lack of balance; no sign of that in this article. As [[User:143.231.249.138|143.231.249.138]] notes above, the Popularity section is way over the top puffery. Here are some criticisms from reliable sources (and to preempt your attack on this point, if we disregard all blog posts, most of Greenwald's own work would not be considered reliable sources either.)
:-"On Assange and on CNN, Glenn Greenwald is talking out of his hat and is an embarrassment to The Guardian" Daily Telegraph [a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100007533/on-assange-and-on-cnn-glenn-greenwald-is-talking-out-of-his-hat-and-is-an-embarrassment-to-the-guardian/"]
:-Jeremy Duns (novelist, UK citizen living in Sweden) rebutting Greenwald on Sweden's legal system: [a href="http://jeremyduns.blogspot.se/2012/06/perils-of-googledemia.html] [[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 21:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

::I'm also concerned about the extensive detailing of the issues Greenwald has addressed. He's a columnist; that's what they do. The Joe Klein controversy in particular does not seem notable. I can see why it's important to Greenwald in the context of his career, but not why it's notable to the rest of the world. Unless someone has a good rationale for keeping it, I plan to remove that paragraph as excessive weight/unencyclopedic detail.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 18:05, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
:::OK, no objection, so I removed that paragraph and summarized the others. It doesn't make sense to have each issue Greenwald has discussed as a columnist get its own section equivalent to his original blog, legal career or Salon.com. Also removed the excessive and POV detail on his living (part time) in Brazil. With the reaction section more balanced now, this is pretty close to a fair, NPOV encyclopedia article, IMHO. [[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 21:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

== Dead Link? ==

I removed the "dead link" tag from the Texas Observer reference. http://www.texasobserver.org/forrestforthetrees/ron-paul-fool%E2%80%99s-gold
I don't know what to tell you; I clicked on it and the article came right up. Maybe there was a temporary web site problem?[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 00:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

== article fixation on his spending half his time in Brazil ==

the section on "Glenn spends half his time in Brazil because the U.S. gov't wont allow his partner to emigrate...blah blah blah" is poorly written, repeats itself numerous times and has an clear agenda. This is why wikipedia is regarded as a joke. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/107.38.81.254|107.38.81.254]] ([[User talk:107.38.81.254|talk]]) 21:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC) 
:I don't know that we need editorials about Wikipedia being regarded as a joke, and it's always nice to sign your comments, but your point is well taken. I drastically pruned the text about his residency, and moved the legal stuff to a new subheading in his career section which makes more sense.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 21:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

== Glenn Greenwald and controversy over his views on Israel ==

I reverted user Phillip Cross' removal of the line about controversy over Greenwald's views on Israel. I believe that this removal was based on a good faith misunderstanding of WP:IRS. The policy does NOT say that blogs cannot be reliable sources. That would not only be not sensible in the modern world, it would be absurd in the discussion of someone who is famous precisely for being a blogger. Greenwald himself would not then be notable.

Here is what the policy says in [the relevant section|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRS#Self-published_sources_.28online_and_paper.29], "Self-published sources (online and paper)."

<blockquote>self-published media—whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable. ... "Blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some news outlets host interactive columns they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professional journalists or are professionals in the field on which they write and the blog is subject to the news outlet's full editorial control.</blockquote>

The source that was listed, CIFWATCH, is clearly a professional news-oriented website. It was listed in Technorati's Top 100 Blogs.

I've gone further and added several other links from sources such as The Atlantic Magazine's blog and The Times of Israel's blog, both explicitly allowed by the policy, as well as other professional blogs such as The Volokh Conspiracy and Legal Insurrection.

Finally, I am removing the language inserted by Anon that characterized Greenwald's critics on Israel as "pro-Israeli blogs." First, this is no longer true given the new sources, if it ever was, and it is clearly POV language aimed at diminishing the critics of Greenwald by portraying them as partisan.[[User:Msalt|Msalt]] ([[User talk:Msalt|talk]]) 23:27, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

== Confusing edits ==

As per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glenn_Greenwald&action=history this] edit, Greenwald's article has a section devoted to his political views, so the lead needs to reflect that. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 15:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:And that section that you've written about was added by a disruptive, indefinitely blocked sock puppet whose edits you are trying to restore without any consensus. Further, they do not accurately reflect the subject nor the sources. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 02:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

== Political views redux ==

:''Politically, Greenwald described himself as independent though others described him as a liberal or progressive.''

This is terrible prose and does not belong in the lead. We don't use the lead section to describe what someone might have described themselves as in the past nor what others describe themselves as now. In fact, we don't use lead sections like this at all. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 15:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[Bill O'Reilly (political commentator)]].
:But back to your argument, the lead is supposed to report on all major sections of the article; as the article includes a section on Greenwald's views, it has to be in there as the function of the lead is to provide a summary of all the sections in the article. Yes, it really is that simple. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 15:17, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
::Not true, and you're misusing sources to push a polarizing, singular POV about a BLP that is not reflected by the subject, which is essentially a form of POV pushing. Further, there is no support for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glenn_Greenwald&diff=514851578&oldid=513670240 these edits] which should be reverted. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 02:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
:::There's an entire (and quite lengthy) section on Greenwald's political views and if you don't see how or why the line explaining Greenwald's political views should be included in the lead, then you need to re-read what WP:LEAD is. If you still can't understand how or why that should be the case, then you may want to reconsider your ability to edit Wikipedia.[[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 10:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
::::That material was added by the sock puppet [[User:Festermunk]] and has been removed as misrepresenting our sources and our BLP policies. Supporting Festermunk's edits, you recently added to the lead the following statement: "Politically, Greenwald describes himself independent though others see him politically as a liberal or progressive."[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glenn_Greenwald&diff=556709366&oldid=556529440] The source you claim as support for Greenwald describing himself as an independent ''does not say that''.[http://web.archive.org/web/20070927000806/http://www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/HowWouldAPatriot_preface.pdf] This is Festermunk's ''modus operandi''. He adds biased claims and cites sources that do not support the claims. And, we don't add these kinds of polarizing statements to our lead sections, as you have already been informed many times now. To top it off, you've linked to articles that are ''not about Greenwald'' in an attempt to label him as a liberal or a progressive. There is no "debate" or "dispute" about Greenwald's self-identification as neither left nor right, and you have once again misrepresented this with the ambiguous term "independent" which is used differently in the U.S. than the way you've used it here (he is not an [[Independent_(politician)]]). Given that the material you added is barely English and shows that you don't understand what you are writing, I'm removing it once again as a BLP violation. The biographical sources describe him as an attorney, a blogger, and an author, not as a progressive nor a liberal. End of story. Finally, describing him as an independent who others view as progressive or liberal is a polarizing tactic used by POV pushers to make him seem like an extremist and to paint him into a black and white corner that eliminates the possibility of rational moderation. This tactic is transparent and needs to stop. The artificial continuum of [[left–right politics]] does not automatically get applied to every person who expresses an opinion on a political issue. Greenwald is taking a ''legal'' approach, not a political approach. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::It's telling how you don't address the point about the WP:LEAD bit as that would constitute the legal grounds to include a summary of opinions on Greenwald's political views; to say otherwise is usually a POV pushing tactic for the subject of the article to prevent the inclusion of material (valid third-party sources I should add) that would undermine the subject's putative claim to ideological objectivity via political claim of non-partisanship. Your cant [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011_Norway_attacks&diff=554891723&oldid=554890700] about the political spectrum isn't relevant to this discussion, as is your claim about what kind of analytical approach Greenwald as the edits are about his political views in general.
:::::"you have once again misrepresented this with the ambiguous term "independent"" so then I'll put in the part about where his pre-political views were neither Republican nor Democrat.
:::::" The biographical sources describe him as an attorney, a blogger, and an author, not as a progressive nor a liberal." So what. Sources about Gleen Greenwald's views doesn't have to be just limited to biographical sources....admittedly the links to the sources cited are broken so I'll try to find new ones. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 05:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::Since you are engaging in deliberate political polarization, my comments are directly relevant. He never claimed to be an independent. That was a distortion of a primary source added by now blocked user Festermunk which was correctly removed as a blatant distortion. You added it back in to make it seem like there was a debate about his ideological position, which is not true. That someone thinks he is progressive or liberal is irrelevant. What counts here is what he self-identifies as and we have other sources indicating that he criticizes both the left and the right. If you are serious about actually improving this biography and not just engaging in disruption, then you will find sources that ''describe his work'' as progressive or liberal, not his person. He doesn't self-identify as these things, and we give weight only to his stated views. Further, none of the sources you've used are ''about'' Greenwald the person; you're just cherry picking passing comments about him from sources that aren't focused on his life and work. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:01, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::It's obvious you didn't read what I wrote, so I'll write it again: "It's telling how you don't address the point about the WP:LEAD bit as that would constitute the legal grounds to include a summary of opinions on Greenwald's political views; to say otherwise is usually a POV pushing tactic for the subject of the article to prevent the inclusion of material (valid third-party sources I should add) that would undermine the subject's putative claim to ideological objectivity via political claim of non-partisanship." It's obvious you also didn't read my latest edits as I changed the bit about his political self-identification.
:::::::"He doesn't self-identify as these things, and we give weight only to his stated views." Is that a Wikipedia editing rule? Or is that something you made up on the spot? [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 11:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::::No, we don't address "views about views" in a BLP. We focus primarily on the BLP subject using standard biographical sources about the subject, proportionally represented in the literature. Read [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons]]. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:06, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::"He doesn't self-identify as these things, and we give weight only to his stated views." Is that a Wikipedia editing rule? Or is that something you made up on the spot? [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 11:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::No, it is how we write articles. You're trying to categorize a BLP using the views of people other than himself to push a POV and you need to stop. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::As per the 3O below, basically it's what I thought: there's nothing in Wikipedia to support your ridiculous point that we give weight "'''only''' to his [Greenwald]'s stated views." As for pushing a POV....how am I doing this?

[[File:Pictogram voting comment.png|18px]] '''[[Wikipedia:Third Opinion|3O]] Response:''' [[WP:BLP]]s have much tighter rules than standard articles, what he identifies as personally, is what counts the most. The opinion of another matters little and should be a qualified statement much further into the article, if required at all. [[User:Nbound|Nbound]] ([[User talk:Nbound|talk]]) 13:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:We must reading different versions of BLP. As per [[WP:BLPSTYLE]], how would including just Greenwald's political self-identification achieve a balanced writing style by, not giving, "disproportionate space to particular viewpoints"? (which on another note would violate LEAD as well) It's understandable that the article give more space to Greenwald's views (which is what I tried to do in my edit) but to say that "the opinion of another matters little" doesn't seem to contribute to a balanced writing style as entailed by [[WP:BLPSTYLE]]. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 15:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::How do your proposed edits "balance" out the article? You are cherry picking passing references to your preferred POV, misusing sources and misquoting them over and over again. I can't see how this kind of bad editing helps improve this topic. If you want to propose a change, do so here on the talk page, and we can discuss it. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 21:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

== Political Views and "Criticism" ==

The last sentence of the "Political Views" section seems highly out of place and irrelevant. It says "Greenwald has been criticized regarding his positions which are critical of Israel's foreign policy and influence on U.S. politics."

I don't quite know how to respond to this except with a "...so what?" Anybody who either is either "critical" or uncritical of "Israel's foreign policy and influence on U.S. politics" "has been criticized" at one time or another. I think this sentence should be removed. It conveys no useful content and says nothing about Greenwald -- or, indeed, anybody.
[[User:Wiki.correct.1|Wiki.correct.1]] ([[User talk:Wiki.correct.1|talk]]) 06:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:The point is that if the views are the subject of criticism, then it should be reported so as not to give undue weight to the argument (or at least the perception) that what he's saying isn't controversial. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 06:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::Except, there is nothing in the article that supports that view. Do you even read the discussion before you comment? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::It helps if you know how to read. I wasn't referring to anything in the article, but more about a general point on Wikipedia editing.[[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 10:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::The only general point that applies is [[WP:NPOV]]. Have you read it? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:04, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::If you happen to read the discussion you'd know that that's EXACTLY what I'm getting at. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 11:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::You're not following the discussion. You said, "if the views are the subject of criticism, then it should be reported so as not to give undue weight to the argument". His views are not being given undue weight, nor could the be given undue weight...in an article about the person. What you are saying doesn't even make any sense. Undue weight about the views of a person in an article about that person? Huh? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 12:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Again it helps if you happened to read the discussion. The original user said criticism of Greenwald's views should be removed because it conveys "no useful content and says nothing about Greenwald," to which I responded (on grounds of NPOV) that to do so would give his views (particularly reception to his views) undue weight and thus the criticisms shouldn't be removed. Yes the discussion is really that simple.[[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 14:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::::There's no such thing as giving the views of a biographical person undue weight in an article about their person. You either don't understand what is being said or you are deliberately disrupting this page. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 21:51, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Then you need to go back and re-read how to make edits on Wikipedia. The fact that the article is about a biographical person doesn't mean stipulations of UNDUE are non-applicable. UNDUE (and by extension NPOV) applies to all Wikipedia articles, which includes biographical as well as non-biographical ones. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 08:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Sorry, but you aren't making any sense in the language called "English". You said, "if the views are the subject of criticism, then it should be reported so as not to give undue weight to the argument (or at least the perception) that what he's saying isn't controversial." The fact that Greenwald has been criticized regarding his positions isn't in and of itself important or worthy of inclusion. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 06:01, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::"The fact that Greenwald has been criticized regarding his positions isn't in and of itself important or worthy of inclusion." The fact that the article is about a biographical person doesn't mean stipulations of UNDUE are non-applicable. UNDUE (and by extension NPOV) applies to all Wikipedia articles, which includes biographical as well as non-biographical ones. Like I said, it helps if you know how to read. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 15:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::You seem to be adding this material against the consensus of myself and [[User:Wiki.correct.1]]. Again, the question stands, so what? Why are you adding this? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::There is no consensus as personal opinions of editor are not substitutes for Wikipedia editing guidelines. As for the inclusion of the criticism part, it is included to rectify OR as some of the sources cited to the relevant content is disparaging Greenwald's views on Israel.[[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 19:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Per Wiki.correct.1, it does not appear useful or informative and your citation of two attack opinion pieces is not the best reliable source for a BLP. If it is ''notable'' that Greenwald's views have been criticized, then you should be able to find a more reliable source on this subject. At this point, I don't think you will find anyone who will support the addition of this poorly-sourced paragraph. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Wiki.correct.1's opinion isn't relevant as the personal opinions of editors are not substitutes for Wikipedia editing guidelines. Also, if you read the source cited that describe Greenwald's political views, they are just that: descriptive articles about Greenwald's political views, and not "attack opinion pieces" as you put it. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 07:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

:Agreed. I restored it from a large set of edits that were removed en masse from an earlier version. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 21:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

== Recent edits ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glenn_Greenwald&diff=prev&oldid=557033670 As per the summary of this edit], the part about Greenwald's book was removed because of BOLD, BURDEN and violation of SELFPUB (he's making a third party claim).

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glenn_Greenwald&diff=prev&oldid=557033796 As per this edit], these are legitimate third party sources which describe his political views and as such belong in the section for which the sources are cited. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 16:00, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:Sorry, but you will need to discuss it first. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 06:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
::They've been discussed but you didn't come up with a sufficient reply. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 16:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:::No, you did not discuss it. You avoided any and all discussion about your edits. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]])|
::::Serious question: are you visually impaired? The discussion are the two paragraphs that initiated this section, one about the summary of Greenwald's book and the other about his political views. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 03:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::I see no consensus for your changes here on this talk page, just your refusal to explain why you added them. Serious question: which reliable secondary sources ''about'' Glenn Greenwald discuss his political views? And, ''why have you not used them''? To quote the 3O opinion you are ignoring on this matter: "WP:BLPs have much tighter rules than standard articles, what he identifies as personally, is what counts the most. The opinion of another matters little and should be a qualified statement much further into the article, if required at all." I would be happy to consider these statement provided it comes from a reliable secondary source about the subject's views. Please provide those sources here, in this discussion, for me to look at. Thanks. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::There's no consensus for your change on this talk page either so I guess that cancels out. If you happened to take a look at the sources cited in my edits describing Greenwald's political views, you will see that almost all of them are reliable (Forbes, the Guardian, etc). If you also happened to actually read the 3O opinion, you'll note that the editor doesn't write (with good reason) that opinion of others don't matter at all; to interpret that statement otherwise is original synthesis and is not allowed as per Wikipedia editing rules. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 03:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::No. There are three editors on this page saying "Please stop making your edits, Gobbleygook". And the 3O says that your proposed edits may not be required at all. The burden is on the editor ''adding'' content, which is what you are doing. Now, since you've acknowledged that your edits aren't supported, please provide reliable secondary sources ''about'' Greenwald, showing his political beliefs and how they are relevant. This is a very simple request. If you can't do that, you can't add the content. Your referred to "Forbes" and "The Guardian" so let's look at those. First, the Forbes source you cite is not ''about'' Greenwald at all, it's and outdated, 2009 opinion poll regarding "The 25 Most Influential Liberals In The U.S. Media" conducted by the magazine. Greenwald doesn't work or publish for the U.S. media. Forbes even admits that it is a subjective exercise, so we aren't even able to take it seriously. It's not even an actual article, it's a slide show, so it's not a reliable source for our purposed. The full, unattributed text reads: "This constitutional lawyer has established himself as a Bush critic with heft. His blog delivers a daily, almost pugilistic, analysis of what’s going on in Washington. Civil liberties are his specialty, and he’ll look to keep Obama “honest” on Gitmo and the like."[http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/22/influential-media-obama-oped-cx_tv_ee_hra_0122liberal_slide_9.html] Sorry, but I fail to see how this supports your argument to include your propsed text. This doesn't meet our BLP criteria for inclusion. I don't see anything from ''The Guaradian'' here, so I can't address it, but the Forbes "slide show" isn't an acceptable use of a source. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:41, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::::" There are three editors on this page saying "Please stop making your edits, Gobbleygook"" Which ones?[[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 05:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Nbound, Wiki.correct.1, and myself. I think you'll find that if you improve the quality of your sources you won't have any problems. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::That's a distortion of the discussion as you're the only one who has an issue with the quality of the sources; Wiki.correct.1 wrote about the reception to Greenwald's views on Israeli foreign policy while Nbound did not rule out inclusion of secondary sources that describe Greenwald's political views. [[User:Gobbleygook|Gobbleygook]] ([[User talk:Gobbleygook|talk]]) 07:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
[[File:Pictogram voting comment.png|18px]] '''[[Wikipedia:Third Opinion|3O]] Response:''' Is this about the edits from May? Perhaps the work on the article has made this debate OBE. But here are some observations: The comment about selfpublishing is not well founded. Salon.com is the publisher and exercises more or less editorial control. Third party is not well founded. That pertains to third persons, not the USG. Mention of his book, ''How would a patriot act?'' is an acceptable addition to the article. [[Working Assets]], even though a stub article, gives us indication that Greenwald did not publish the book himself. Even so, {{OCLC|69366025}} has it listed in 300+ libraries, which indicates that librarians think it is worthwhile enough to stock on their shelves. Are there book reviews out there which tell us what the book is about? If so, they can be included IOT describe what Greenwald's view are. But restating particular view from the book is OR/SYN -- we can provide a general description of what it is about. Regarding Forbes, if it mentioned Greenwald by name then its inclusion is acceptable, subjective or not -- the inclusion needs to be qualified by "In 2009 he was listed as ..... by Forbes." Gobbley -- do ''not'' make comments like "are you visually impaired". It was not a "serious question" and such PA remarks only weaken your position in these discussions. (Does that cover the bases? If not, and if you want more input from me, let me know.) – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 17:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

== Sources on Greenwald and the NSA leaks ==
*Wemple, Marik. "[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/06/24/greenwald-beltway-media-types-are-courtiers-to-power/ Greenwald: Beltway media types are ‘courtiers to power’]." ''[[Washington Post]]''. June 24, 2013.
*Wemple, Erik. "[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/06/23/david-gregory-whiffs-on-greenwald-question/ David Gregory whiffs on Greenwald question]." ''[[Washington Post]]''. June 23, 2013.
*Carr, David. "[https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/business/media/the-other-snowden-drama-impugning-the-messenger.html?_r=1& The Other Snowden Drama: Impugning the Messenger]." ''[[The New York Times]]''. June 25, 2013.
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 19:07, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

== NY Daily News piece on Greenwald and response ==

NY Daily News piece on Greenwald and response:
* Gregorian, Dareh. "[http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/greenwald-reporter-broke-nsa-story-lawyer-sued-porn-biz-article-1.1383448 Glenn Greenwald, journalist who broke Edward Snowden story, was once lawyer sued over porn business]." ''[[New York Daily News]]''. Wednesday June 26, 2013.
* [[Glenn Greenwald|Greenwald, Glenn]]. "[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/26/nsa-revelations-response-to-smears The personal side of taking on the NSA: emerging smears]." ''[[The Guardian]]''. Wednesday 26 June 2013.
* Martin, Adam. "[http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/06/daily-news-has-information-about-greenwalds-dog.html The ''Daily News'' Has Information About Glenn Greenwald’s Dog]." ''[[New York Magazine]]''. Thursday 27 June 2013.
Greenwald is accusing the NY Daily piece as being an attack piece meant to discredit him and divert the attention from the NSA leaks
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 22:33, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::It's an attack piece as much as his articles of others are "attack pieces meant to discredit." --''[[User:Brewcrewer|brew]][[Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer|crewer]] [[User talk:Brewcrewer|(yada, yada)]]'' 23:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Are you referring to Dareh Gregorian? Are there references that talk about the other ones? [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::::I'm referring to his history as an op-ed columnist.--''[[User:Brewcrewer|brew]][[Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer|crewer]] [[User talk:Brewcrewer|(yada, yada)]]'' 00:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::Okay. Do you think Gregorian would qualify for a Wikipedia article himself? [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:49, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::I looked around but I didn't see sufficient sources on Gregorian himself. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 15:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, nothing on this has appeared and it left a hole of some years in his biography. I added a section under "Career" titled "Businessman" on August 19. It's been edited since by someone without discussion, but I have no objections to the editing except that it deletes his questionable financial dealings with the government. Since he's reporting on the government, it seems relevant to me. Also, it is now news that he lives in Brazil with his partner, and according to the Daily News, Greenwald has said that is not IOT avoid his unpaid taxes in the U.S. In fact, he says he's paid what has been shown not to be paid, and claims he's making arrangements to pay the IRS. Until he cleans up his financial dealings, which reflect on his credibility, I think it needs to be there and I'm putting it back it. I did, and will do so, in as neutral a way as possible. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leslynjd|Leslynjd]] ([[User talk:Leslynjd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leslynjd|contribs]]) 14:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC) 

== His NSA reporting not in the lead ==

Doesn't it merit a mention (cf. Woodward & Bernstein)? [[User:Writegeist|Writegeist]] ([[User talk:Writegeist|talk]]) 22:34, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

:::{{done}} Look at the last sentence now. — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 14:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== NPOV issues in the "Critics" section removed by proper attribution of charges against Greenwald's critics ==

Under the heading "Critics" in the article, the following two sentences:

:"=== Critics ===
:
:"Around 2010/2011 [[Aaron Barr]] of [[HBGary]] and Team Themis planned to damage Greenwald's career as a way to respond to a potential dump of [[Bank of America]] documents by Wikileaks, saying that "Without the support of people like Glenn WikiLeaks would fold."
:
:and
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:"In 2013 congressman [[Peter T. King|Peter King]] suggested Greenwald should be arrested for his reporting on the [[PRISM (surveillance program)|NSA PRISM program]] and NSA leaker/whistleblower [[Edward Snowden]]."
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created the impression that WP itself was stating that the alleged plan to damage Greenwald's career by HBGary and Team Themis and Rep King's suggestion that Greenwald's reporting on PRISM and Edward Snowden were incontrovertible facts.

Appearances are important. Justifiably or not, WP gets criticized for lack of an NPOV. We ought to make clear that we're honest brokers of information in an encyclopedia, not advocacy journalists.

Given the controversial nature of these statements, I felt it necessary to change the text to restore neutral point of view (NPOV) to the article and place responsibility for the statements clearly in the hands of the people writing them in the source reference material, thus:

:"=== Critics ===
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:"According to Nate Anderson, writing in arstechnica.com, around 2010/2011 [[Aaron Barr]] of [[HBGary]] and Team Themis planned to damage Greenwald's career as a way to respond to a potential dump of [[Bank of America]] documents by Wikileaks, saying that "Without the support of people like Glenn WikiLeaks would fold." <ref>[http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/the-ridiculous-plan-to-attack-wikileaks/ Spy games: Inside the convoluted plot to bring down WikiLeaks] by Nate Anderson - Feb 14 2011, Ars Technica, retrieved 6/24/2013 from arstechnica.com</ref>
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:Josh Voorhees, writing in slate.com, reported that in 2013 congressman [[Peter T. King|Peter King]] suggested Greenwald should be arrested for his reporting on the [[PRISM (surveillance program)|NSA PRISM program]] and NSA leaker/whistleblower [[Edward Snowden]].<ref></ref> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vfrickey|Vfrickey]] ([[User talk:Vfrickey|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vfrickey|contribs]]) 23:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC) 

::Added graph about TV interview on ABC's "This Week" in which Greenwald accused the House Intelligence Committee of stonewalling other members of Congress, and ranking members of the HIC pushed back, particularly Rep. Peter King, (R-NY), who said such accusations were made by "people trying to make a name for themselves."

Given all that has transpired in this Talk section I would say that this article is beyond any hope of being corrected to NPOV. The subject Glenn himself, but his reporting and the controversy surrounding it needs a total rework. The Talk section commentary is all that I need to justify this. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.95.34.149|97.95.34.149]] ([[User talk:97.95.34.149|talk]]) 03:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC) 
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== David Miranda: Separate article? ==
After the detention, does his spouse David Miranda warrant his own article, or an article about the detention?
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 19:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

== Dentention of David Miranda ==
Should we spin off Miranda's Heathrow detention into a separate article? [[Detention of David Miranda]]? I fear this may run and run. [[User:Gareth E Kegg|Gareth E Kegg]] ([[User talk:Gareth E Kegg|talk]]) 01:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

== 2013 EFF Pioneer award ==

He has been announced as one of the winners of the 2013 EFF Pioneer awards (https://www.eff.org/press/releases/late-digital-rights-activist-international-access-knowledge-advocate-and-nsa-spying). Should this be mentioned somewhere? - [[User:GlaedrH|GlaedrH]] ([[User talk:GlaedrH|talk]]) 15:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

== Headline: "Glenn Greenwald Working on new NSA Revelations" ==

"Jeremy Scahill, a contributor to The Nation magazine and the New York Times best-selling author of "Dirty Wars," said he will be working with Glenn Greenwald, the Rio-based journalist who has written stories about U.S. surveillance programs based on documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden." [http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_BRAZIL_GLENN_GREENWALD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-28-20-46-34] The headline of the AP article today is: "Glenn Greenwald Working on new NSA Revelations" — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
:IMO, it hasn't happened yet, or produced anything, so it's not a "thing." Nothing to report.[[User:Leslynjd|Leslynjd]] ([[User talk:Leslynjd|talk]]) 22:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

== What is the relevance of Glenn Greenwald and puppies? ==

The end of the lead talks about how many dogs Greenwald has (note: this may change at any time since the editor says he tries to adopt them out, so...at any time it may also not be accurate), and about how he takes in stray dogs and tries to adopt them out. What's the relevance? The article is not about dogs. It is not about dog adopters. Is this supposed to reflect somehow on his character? Why don't we then add that he helps old ladies across the street? Or if he doesn't help old ladies across the street, why don't we add that he doesn't do that? Are we going to find out next whether he was a Boy Scout? Or that he uses strictly organic salad dressing? IOW, This is a POV irrelevant to the main article. It should be deleted.[[User:Leslynjd|Leslynjd]] ([[User talk:Leslynjd|talk]]) 22:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

:Also, I note that this information comes from the Democratic Underground, a discussion forum, hardly a reputable news site. Inclusion doesn't meet Wikipedia guidelines.[[User:Leslynjd|Leslynjd]] ([[User talk:Leslynjd|talk]]) 22:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::It's just a cute (or GCH-cute?) line to add a bit of colour to a biographical article. It shouldn't have been so prominent at the end of the lead, so I've trimmed it and put it with the general Miranda section. [[User:Gareth E Kegg|Gareth E Kegg]] ([[User talk:Gareth E Kegg|talk]]) 01:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Letter from Alan Grayson ==

This letter is from [[Alan Grayson]] to [[Eric Holder]] asking what will happen if Greenwald re-enters the US:
* http://www.freepress.net/sites/default/files/resources/Grayson_Letter_to_Holder_on_Greenwald.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6KzNcKVP9
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:11, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

== Category:whistleblowing ==
Greenwald isn't a whistleblower, he's a journalist who covers whistleblowers. Does that mean he belongs in the category? [[User:Joe Bodacious|Joe Bodacious]] ([[User talk:Joe Bodacious|talk]]) 01:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
*Technically, you are absolutely correct. He is a defacto whistleblower, or whistleblower enabler. I have no strong preference to remove this cat, nor to keep it either. [[User:Jusdafax|Jus]][[User talk:Jusdafax|da]][[Special:Contributions/Jusdafax|fax]] 01:39, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
::{{done}} — I removed the disputed category tag. No source is cited in the article referring to Greenwald as a whistleblower, nor are the other major [[Edward Snowden]] journalists [[Laura Poitras]] and [[Barton Gellman]] members of this category. We must in this case distinguish between a whistleblower and a journalist who facilitates that person's whistleblowing. Greenwald is the latter, not the former. [[User:JohnValeron|JohnValeron]] ([[User talk:JohnValeron|talk]]) 01:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

== Removing Category: Businessman ==

The section entitled "Businessman" is not relevant to the overall article. It references two posts in the New York Post regarding a pornography venture and outstanding liens. Since Greenwald does not put himself forward as a businessman, since the the intent of Murdock's tabloid in publishing these articles are questionable, and since no attempt was made to present Greenwald's position on these 'revelations', since thousands of other biographical subjects in Wikipedia could reasonably have had one or more liens filed against them, and since neither of these quoted articles shed light on Greenwald as a journalist or a constitutional lawyer, then the section appears only to serve as a defamatory distraction from the main article. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ttheuth|Ttheuth]] ([[User talk:Ttheuth|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ttheuth|contribs]]) 17:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC) 
*The article serves as a balanced overview of Greenwald's life and work. The business ventures were clearly important to Greenwald at that time and so deserve to be mentioned in this article. Biographies should not only discuss a subjects life in light of their main vocation, and indeed the greater part of this article is on his important work as a lawyer and journalist. The section when originally added was written in a terribly snide and disparaging manner, and I sought to change it to its current dry prose. [[User:Gareth E Kegg|Gareth E Kegg]] ([[User talk:Gareth E Kegg|talk]]) 22:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
**I've removed the liens bit. [[User:Gareth E Kegg|Gareth E Kegg]] ([[User talk:Gareth E Kegg|talk]]) 22:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

== Introductory Text is Biased ==

I don't know anything about Glenn Greenwald and have no particular political leaning - but by the fourth introductory paragraph I am reading:

''Greenwald lives in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, the hometown of his partner, David Michael Miranda.[30][31][32][33][34] Greenwald has said his residence in Brazil is the result of an American law, the Defense of Marriage Act, barring federal recognition of same-sex marriages, which prevented his partner from receiving a visa to reside in the United States with him.[31] However, he had moved to Brazil prior to meeting his now partner, while under investigation by the IRS for substantial unpaid tax. [35] Additionally since the Defense of Marriage Act has been overturned, Greenwald has instead cited fears of arrest should he move back to the US [36] despite being able to visit the US without facing any legal issues [37]''

It would seem that whether he can or cannot enter the states is a very secondary matter (as a reader I should learn more about who he is and what he is known for - surely not merely for living outside the US with a homosexual partner), but instead I am rapidly confronted with a paragraph suggesting a kind of general flakiness of character ("additionally since.. he has cited.... despite being able... etc.?)

At any rate I think this paragraph should be moved to it's own section, and out of the introductory block of material - it is not primary material, and it carries an obvious tint of bias. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/169.244.45.161|169.244.45.161]] ([[User talk:169.244.45.161|talk]]) 17:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC) 

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== Lead has too many paragraphs ==

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== National Alliance ==

In addition to defending white supremacist [[Matthew F. Hale]] in 2001, he defended the [[National Alliance]] shortly thereafter.[http://www.salon.com/2009/05/19/eric_boehlert/]
<blockquote>In 2002 he defended a strident anti-immigration group, '''National Alliance''', in a New York civil rights lawsuit after two Mexican day workers were beaten and stabbed on Long Island by two men posing as contractors in search of laborers. The victims claimed that the anti-immigration rhetoric of National Alliance, which urged racist violence against Latino immigrants and other racial minorities, was partly to blame for the beatings. Greenwald argued that the case represented a misguided attempt to impose liability and punishment on groups because of their political and religious views. A federal judge threw out the case.</blockquote>
[[User:Kortoso|Kortoso]] ([[User talk:Kortoso|talk]]) 22:21, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:Are you suggesting that this be included in the article? -- [[User:Irn|Irn]] ([[User talk:Irn|talk]]) 00:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

== New Atheism criticism ==

I don't know that we need to mention his criticism of New Atheism. Since Greenwald is a prolific writer who is also very critical, he has criticized a lot of different people/organizations/whatever, and I don't think they all deserve to be mentioned. I'm also not sure that this would belong in the "Religious views" section as that section is more about his personal religious views, but rather it should probably be put into "Political views", because the criticism is more grounded in politics than religion. -- [[User:Irn|Irn]] ([[User talk:Irn|talk]]) 18:49, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Why do we see this crap as foreword to wikipedia, when we search for his name on google:
Glenn Edward Greenwald (born March 6, 1967) is an American fake news propagandist and far-left extremist anti-Semite, best known for his role in a series of ...?!
[[Special:Contributions/80.62.117.152|80.62.117.152]] ([[User talk:80.62.117.152|talk]]) 13:52, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Jan Eskildsen