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Talk:Garamond

2011-08-24T23:27:52Z

Ambrosebrown: /* Jannon misattribution */

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==University of Chicago Press==

Also uses it. Might as well refer to the font as "Lattimore/Grene". —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/167.206.19.12|167.206.19.12]] ([[User talk:167.206.19.12|talk]]) 20:53, 8 April 2011 (UTC) 

==Comments==
I have taken out:

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''The text below is presumably referring to some specific typeface called "Garamond", but which one? It's not clear that describing (any version of) Garamond by relating it to Times Roman is a particularly great plan, anyway...''

Garamond is the inspiration for most modern typefaces with serifs, notably [[Times Roman]]. The strokes are somewhat thinner and more sculpted than Times Roman. The ends of strokes end in tapering calligraphic triangles reminiscent of brush strokes. The designer coordinated the angles of the strokes, sizes and ornaments of the serifs and radii of the flourishes across many sizes to achieve a stylistically unified typeface that has the same feel, while remaining readable at all sizes. The clearest evidence of unified angles is in the capital W and M, classically the largest and hardest [[glyph]]s to design.

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This is a general discussion about serif fonts, which belongs on the [[serif]] page, and I'm currently working on a classification there. Will take this back in eventually. -- [[User:Djmutex|djmutex]] 2003-04-30

==Confusion==

While you point to the confusion between Jannon's and Garamond's faces, you have put Monotype Garamond in the infobox. This is based Jannon's work and is more of a [[Serif#Transitional|transitional]] font, whereas Garamond's is [[Serif#Old_Style|old style]]. Would it not be more accurate to have a font based on actual work from Garamond there, like Stempel or Adobe Garamond? ~AR

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Mention that Garamond was Apple's main font used in publicity during the 80s and 90s? [[User:Tobyink|Tobyink]] 07:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

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"The Quick brown fox" sentence looks remarkably like the letters below. What face is it in, if it's not garamond? Can't it be removed from the picture? If someone confirms it's not Garamond, I'll chop it off myself --[[User:Storkk|Storkk]] 21:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== Show/hide ==

Does anyone know why, in MSWord, when you show your invisibles, the dots for spaces are so far to the right (almost on top of the following letter) in Garamond?

==Numbers==

Could someone explain the numbers? It's confusing having the 1 look like a small I and the 0 look like an o. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/67.188.172.165|67.188.172.165]] ([[User talk:67.188.172.165|talk]]) 03:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

:They are oldstyle digits, also known as [[text figures]]. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/195.144.9.74|195.144.9.74]] ([[User talk:195.144.9.74|talk]]) 14:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

Here is a simple way to look at it: old style figures (which Garamond has in its specimen) are deisgned to compliment lowercase. Lining figures (the ones you may be more familiar with) are diesnged to compliment uppercase. [[User:GearedBull|CApitol3]] 17:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

==Harry Potter?==

The introduction of Harry Potter as a specific example of a book using Garamond seems really out of place in the midst of a general discussion about the typeface. It should be removed unless there is some reason pointed out as to why this example is exceptional and significant. [[User:Brianhill|Brian Hill]] 17:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
: removed. [[User:Kzhr|Kzhr]] 16:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, I seem to remember at least one of the (American) books being set in 11.5 point Garamond instead of 12 point. I don't have the books with me, can someone check? (The article says all of the books were set in 12 point.)[[User:Joelanders|Joelanders]] ([[User talk:Joelanders|talk]]) 19:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:First three hardcover American editions are in 12-pt. Adobe Garamond. Not sure beyond ''Prisoner of Azkaban''. [[User:Rivertorch|Rivertorch]] ([[User talk:Rivertorch|talk]]) 07:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Dates Issue==

It says he was born in 1480 but the caption on the figure says it's an example of his font from 1485? Precocious kid! - Rakesh K.

I noticed this too and removed it. [[Special:Contributions/72.79.213.108|72.79.213.108]] ([[User talk:72.79.213.108|talk]]) 13:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

==Penguin==
It seems that "Monotype Garamond" is the typeface most often used in the classic Penguin paperbacks from the 1960s and thereabouts. It seems possible that this is the place most people would have encountered Garamond. Perhaps someone with more information can expand on this.[[User:Priceyeah|Priceyeah]] 11:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== The many faces of Garamond ==

Glancing over the article, it occurs to me that most significant typefaces rate their own articles. While a general Garamond article is certainly a good thing, I wonder if some of the typefaces going by that name deserve separate articles of their own. Stempel Garamond, for instance, is much more similar to Granjon (which has its own article) than it is to ITC Garamond (which doesn't). At the very least, some redirects are probably in order. Any advice appreciated. [[User:Rivertorch|Rivertorch]] ([[User talk:Rivertorch|talk]]) 07:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Cyrillic font rendering ==

==Glyphs==
In Russian, two letters are visibly different from their original scripts. These are [[De (Cyrillic)|Д]] "de" and [[El (Cyrillic)|Л]] "el". These are displayed (if italicised with the [[Garamond]] font) similar to the Alexander font. The characters of these letters in Garamond font are rendered as follows: Д (Cyrillic letter [[De (Cyrillic)|"de"]]), and Л (Cyrillic letter [[El (Cyrillic)|"el"]]). The letters are similar to the Greek [[Delta (letter)|Δ]] "delta" and [[Lambda|Λ]] "lambda", as the Cyrillic alphabet derived from the Greek alphabet.<ref>http://www.ancientscripts.com/cyrillic.html</ref> [[User:序名三|序名三「Jyonasan」]] [[User talk:序名三|Talk]][[Special:Contributions/序名三|Stalk]] 20:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Just curious.... ==

Why does the example of Garamond in the page image omit the digit 6? I would guess it's because you can deduce what it looks like by turning the 9 upside down.... [[Special:Contributions/2.25.141.140|2.25.141.140]] ([[User talk:2.25.141.140|talk]]) 16:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== Jannon misattribution ==

This section should really contain a reference to Beatrice Warde's original article:

Warde, Beatrice, The 'Garamond' types : sixteenth & seventeenth century sources considered / by Paul Beaujon [i.e. Beatrice Ward].
p. 131-179 In Fleuron no.5 (1926)

Also a summary was reprinted in The Montotype Recorder vol 44 no. 1 autumn 1970. The details given in the section seem to be garnered from her research. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ambrosebrown|Ambrosebrown]] ([[User talk:Ambrosebrown|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ambrosebrown|contribs]]) 21:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC) 

ok, this should perhaps be referenced too: Mosley, James; Garamond, Griffo and Others : The Price of Celebrity, BIBLIOLOGIA vol. 1 2006 http://www.libraweb.net/articoli.php?chiave=2239&rivista=84 or here: http://typefoundry.blogspot.com/2011/04/garamond-or-garamont.html

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