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Andochine: /* Reverting of my edits to EU enlargement article */ Reverting possible vandalism

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== Omega models ==
Any chance you can tag those in the list I added. No one seems to be really objecting to the ones listed. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] 20:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
*Just tag all of the others. I'll note this on the Omega entry. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] 02:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== Dean Lesher ==
''Thanks for your input! I'm still a bit wet behind the ears, and I was wondering about that edit you made to my intro already. ''

No problem. I went to high school in Concord and worked for years in Walnut Creek, so when I saw the name "Dean Lesher" pop up on the New Articles page, I simply had to go poking around; checking out [[Contra Costa Times]] after that seemed obvious. And pay no attention to RichardBennett -- he's a thin-skinned newbie upset with my reversing some nonsense he added to a few articles. --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 23:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== Jay Robert Nash ==
The [[Jay Robert Nash]] article is having POV statements inserted by [[User:Thomist]], who is also using a sockpuppet (which means there are not two independent editors inserting the POV sections). If you check out other edits by [[User:Thomist]] you will see that the editor has also been faulted for inserting unsourced POV in other places (see the discussion at [[Talk:Brett Kavanaugh]] for more, including the use of sockpuppets). I'm always happy to discuss and arrive at consensus with any editor over any article but in this case the editor refuses to provide any sources to back up the POV insertions and is using sockpuppets. As a result, consensus can not be achieved. Best, --[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 01:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::Your revised article looks really good. Excellent work. If you ever need any assistance around Wikipedia, just drop me a line.--[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 13:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
::::I wanted to let you know that I've been impressed with your attempts to mediate the Nash article. I also think your new version of the article has much improved the article and that we should go with it (with a few minor changes to the lead, as mentioned on the talk page). That said, I don't have any more time to spend discussing this issue with [[User:Root50|Root50]], who now wants to delete the Carpinelli section altogether. As I said on the article's talk page, [[User:Root50|Root50]] appears to have an ideological axe to grind against Nash. If [[User:Root50|Root50]] could provide even one reliable source to back up what he/she is saying, I'd be ok with putting that info into the article. As it is now, I will not be taking any more part in this discussion. If [[User:Root50|Root50]] wishes to take this discussion any further, he/she will have to do so through arbitration. Best, --[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 19:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what else to do. Personally, I don't understand how your rewrite is wrong. I'm going to propose something on the article's talk page. See what you think. --[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 17:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
::Please read the proposal on the talk page. I think it will solve many of the problems.--[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 17:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==Help! ==
[[User:TheVirtualToolshed]] appears to have started their account for the sole purpose of advertising using their Userpage. I understand policy well enough to have an inkling that this is at best a circumvention of methods usually used against advertisements... but I haven't been around long enough to know what to do about it. Suggestions? Notices that I'm off-base? Thanks in advance. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 04:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&action=edit&section=new Report] that user at [[WP:AN]] because they are a spam-only account. --[[User:GeorgeMoney|GeorgeMoney]] [[User_talk:GeorgeMoney|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/GeorgeMoney|C]] 04:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! That was quite fast. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 10:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Interoute==
Luna, hi. I am currently working on Interoute's Wikipedia article. I actually have permission to use this paragraph from the holder of the Interoute copyright. Webzilla has somehow lifted the interoute copyrigthed information. Thank you for your keen observation, and I have passed along this information to the copyrigth holder at interoute who I am sure will contact Webzilla. Is there any way that you could remove that tag from my article?
Thanks so much!! —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:KellyKinsella|KellyKinsella]] ([[User talk:KellyKinsella|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KellyKinsella|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
::Luna,
::My only proof is that I am currently an employee of the marketing department of interoute. I am not certain how to prove this. I have an interoute email address. Would that prove it? I am just desperate to fix this quickly because my boss would not be pleased if he happened to log onto wikipedia and see this giant flag on Interoute's definition page. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:WhitneyEllis|WhitneyEllis]] ([[User talk:WhitneyEllis|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhitneyEllis|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:::PS Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire is definitely my favorite of the series also!! —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:WhitneyEllis|WhitneyEllis]] ([[User talk:WhitneyEllis|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WhitneyEllis|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

Hi. I've reviewed the [[Interoute]] article and, quite clearly and without doubt, the "article" is actually an advertisement. The choice of language used is clearly with marketing intent and, as such, meets the criteria for speedy deletion. Wikipedia is not a route to free soft marketing and the very fact that you are running it past your boss in the marketing department makes that clear. ''If'' a company is notable enough to have an article then it should be able to stand on its own merits as a [[NPOV]] article without puffery. The extant copy has been deleted. A replacement article that meets the standards we set will probably, of course, be acceptable. --[[User:AlisonW|AlisonW]] 20:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::Advertising generally falls under #7 ''"Unremarkable people or groups/Vanity Pages. An article about a real person, group of people, band, or club that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. If the assertion is disputed or controversial, it should be taken to AFD instead."'' and, in this case, the content was clearly a puff piece and totally POV. Looking at the 'article' I tried to see if something NPOV could be extricated from it, but frankly it seemed that the only thing left would be the name of the company! Once I saw that the creator had passed it by their boss at the company in the marketing department then it became a definite and clear deletion, similar to someone writing their own over-the-top biography on here. As I noted on the talkpages, if there is a good, sensible, NPOV article out there on this company I'm sure one will eventually appear. What was there wasn't it.--[[User:AlisonW|AlisonW]] 22:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:TheVirtualToolshed]] ==

Blocked. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 14:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==My secret has been unveiled!==
Oh dear. What shall I do now? Haha, hi there. It's been ages since we've spoken, I think. I think I said the exact same thing at Renaissance a long time ago, too... --[[User:Dalkaen|'''Dalkaen''']][[User_talk:Dalkaen|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Dalkaen|C]] 21:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Welcome to [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof|VandalProof!]] ==
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Luna Santin! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof|download and install VandalProof from our main page]]. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof#Moderators|moderator]], or you can post a message on [[User:AmiDaniel/VP/Discuss|the discussion page]]. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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== [[User talk:JustBenCrew]] ==

Very nice comment. Can I plagiarise it for the future? --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] 11:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
:Seconded, nice work. [[User:Bewildebeast|Matt Eason]] 11:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== CFD Category: Designated terrorist organizations underway ==

I thought you may be interested,

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Designated_terrorist_organizations see here]

[[User:Count Iblis|Count Iblis]] 23:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

== School storm ==

Thanks, Luna. I really feel quite distant from the article. My "hard feelings" are rather low-level, and I have no reason to contribute further to either talk page or article—my last note was quite a few days ago. However, I'm concerned about my friend, Andrew Jens; he would be a valuable WPian indeed, and he's making noises about never coming back.

I suppose that I'm disappointed in the attitudes of the admins connected with the storm.

Please let me know if I can help, but I doubt that I can. Your input would be very welcome.

Thank you again.

[[User:Tony1|Tony]] 02:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

== hi ==

Luna, thanks so much for your excellent management of the cabal thing. You do write well, so if you're inclined, your input to the FAC room would always be most welcome. There's a shortage of skilled reviewers of prose there, and it's been hard to maintain the standards of successful nominations.

Cheers [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 12:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

== Arbitration ==

Would you support taking the Nash article issue to the mediation cabal or arbitration? Since I am an involved editor (although my only axe to grind is to keep the article NPOV) but you have already been acting in a mediation role, perhaps you could start the mediation process. Now that Carpinelli is involved again, this process just became more complicated since she has a strong POV she's trying to push with the article. I'll be honest--whatever the official mediation process agrees on I'll support. Best, --[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 12:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
::You know, I don't know what to make of all the screaming about the Nash article. Carpinelli ([[User:Polycarp7|Polycarp7]]) keeps going on about it being Wikipedia's fault that her article at Catholic Exchange was pulled b/c the Nash article had referenced it. In addition the two main editors involved in this dispute, [[User:Polycarp7|Polycarp7]] and Root50, have basically only edited the Nash article at Wikipedia. Since they both seem to have either a personal connection to the article or a strong POV on it, I see no alternative to arbitration. Personally, I wish I'd never edited this article in the first place so I wouldn't have to deal with all of this. Anyway, I think the arbitration request would be stronger if we presented it together. If you want to start the process I'd back you up or, if you'd prefer, I can start it and hopefully you'd support it. If you'd prefer to run screaming from all of this, I'd also understand. :-).--[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 18:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Andrewjens]] ==

Hi Luna, I was wondering if you could say a few kind words to [[User:Andrewjens]] who has been harassing [[User:Sumple]], who is a participant in the [[Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-16_alumni_link]]: see [[User_talk:Sumple#Quote_of_the_moment]]. Many thanks. [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]] ([[User talk:Enochlau|talk]]) 06:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

: Hi Luna, wanted to let you know about that incident, but I see [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]] has already posted here. Anyway, I am not happy with the way Andrewjens is insinuating that I am racist/antisemitic or whatever he's trying to do. --[[User:Sumple|Sumple]] ([[User_Talk:Sumple|Talk]]) 07:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

::This user is getting very close to being permanently blocked. You can see my long message to him on his talk page, trying to get him to understand what he has done wrong and why he was blocked for 24 hours. The matter is also being discussed on the admin. noticeboard. I take no pleasure in coming down hard on anybody, but he appears to be totally unrepentant at the moment. If there is anything you can do to get him back on track, that would obviously be better than people hurling blocks and bans at him. If not, maybe Wikipedia is not for him. [[User:Metamagician3000|Metamagician3000]] 02:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

: Hi Luna, thanks for your message. There hasn't been any problems since the block. Hopefully everything's okay. Thanks again. You're a great mediator. --[[User:Sumple|Sumple]] ([[User_Talk:Sumple|Talk]]) 20:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== School storm (and worse) ==

Hi Luna Santin. Thanks for taking up the STHS case, and for your efforts so far. Sorry if my earlier attempts to put a more objective slant on things ended up inflaming the situation. :-( I've kept out of it for a few days, partly because of other commitments, but also to think through some of the issues. Unfortunately, it looks like things have taken a bit of a turn for the worse. I'm at a loss as to what to do now. I did have some comments about the "compromise" suggestion, but I might stay away for a while longer now. What do you think? I also had some things to say about [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]]. I do appreciate his efforts to protect pages from what he sees as vandalism, but the use of revert (and particularly "rollback") without leaving explanations on talk pages is, I think, one of the reasons why this whole thing started. [[WP:RV]] has some very wise words about revert/rollback, particularly with regard to how it might be perceived by the other editor. Anyway, enough rambling. And, [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]], if you're reading this, please don't take offence. I'm only trying to figure out what happened here, rather than seeking to blame anyone. There are lessons to be learned by all of us. :-( [[User:Winterelf|Winterelf]] 08:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Mediation request ==

A [[WP:RFM|request for mediation]] has been filed with the [[WP:MC|Mediation Committee]] in regard to the article Jay Robert Nash. Mediation Committee procedure requires that all parties to a mediation be notified of the mediation, and indicate an agreement to mediate within fourteen days. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation#Jay_Robert_Nash]], and indicate your agreement or refusal to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to [[Wikipedia:Mediation]] or contact a [[Template:Medcom|member of the Mediation Committee]].

== Terrorist etc ==

Hi Luna,

Thanks for your thoughts on Cat Designated Terrorist Organizations. FYI there already exists an article on [[U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations]]. [[User:AndrewRT|AndrewRT]] 01:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Docs Page ==

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I know you understand. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 08:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I found where I made mistakes in the history. The diffs are VERY helpful for this. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Curse&diff=next&oldid=59331271|My Bad]] I did not know at the time that such warnings were "normal", or that they had a specific purpose. It appeared at the time that he was applying them without participating in the discussion, at will, and after calling me a vandal without any justification. Read this later, you will understand then. It is important for me to learn from these mistakes now while they are fresh in my mind. Thanks again. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 10:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thank You Luna ==
Thanks for the info Luna on how to delete an article that I created. [[User:The Punk|The Punk]] 11:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

=== I have some ?'s for ya Luna / Thanks again Luna ===
How can I create a good User Page? And how can I get templates like you do in your user box?
And if I were able to help someone with editing an article (like you did for me), how could I find them? Thanks again [[User:The Punk|The Punk]] 11:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Thank you again, Luna. Your answers help alot. I will contact you again when I have another question. [[User:The Punk|The Punk]] 12:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Peru's article: Music ==

Hi, I just wrote a message to the person who did the first reversal giving him my reasons [[User talk:Freakofnurture]]. I'm actually working on a better organization of this part of Peru's article. At least, wait for me to finished it please, and then before making the reversal, tell me your opinion or asked me about any doubts you will have. Thanks. --Evelyn Zuñiga 19:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Inactive user ==
Heh... Thank you for your note. Yes, the bug bit me again and I just couldn't help checking anon RC, looking for vandalism. No longer an admin, but old habits die hard. :) [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk]] 04:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== MoviePosterBid ==

So what else do I need to do before you replace this article? I removed the copyright violation and do not understand what you mean by "this reads like an advertisement?" Please advise. {{unsigned|Phishman}}
:You moved my article, I fixed it, and it has not been restored. You asked me to nag you. I really would have appreciated being contacted first as would have graciously fixed any problems. As it stands, I am in Limbo waiting for you to do???? Please restore my article, thank you. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Phishman|Phishman]] ([[User talk:Phishman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phishman|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

== 207.200 IPs ==

Good work on the AOL ''es'' vandalism, if you don't get them I am. [[User:Khukri|'''Khukri''']] ([[User_talk:Khukri|'''talk''']] . [[Special:Contributions/Khukri|'''contribs''']]) 10:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks Luna / One more ==

You were right that page should not have been there and I have made all endeavors to delete it.
Can you help me to make sure I have all references deleted. Vanessabu
:I am very worried about who has seen the article and how long it was on there for.
How can I be sure all references to this article and all the images have been deleted?
Can you help me please? {{unsigned|Vanessabu}}

== Ranking Chart ==

A quick Google search easily displays at least 5 websites with the same exact so called copyrighted material in the top 10 results alone. This is common knowledge, factual, not exclusive publication and therefore I do not believe that it should be considered Copywritten material.

Furthermore, I recently noticed that some pictures that I had added to the unreal tournament section had been removed for copyright infringement. How is that possible since the pictures were taken using the screen shot function of my client?

Def: from webopeida.com
copyright

The legal right granted to an author, composer, playwright, publisher, or distributor to '''exclusive publication''', production, sale, or distribution of a literary, musical, dramatic, or artistic work.

I have been coming here for years now, but I sometimes forget why I don’t contribute more often, thanks for reminding me. {{unsigned|Robertsloca}}

== Are external links per force a violation of WP:MOS? ==

Luna Santin,

You edited most/all external links out of the body of an article, ostensibly "in keeping" with WP:MOS. I claim no expertise (or even much knowledge) of the MOS, but it isn't intuitively obvious to me that an external link is by definition (or even most of the time) indicative of an advert.

Just as seemingly obvious ''internal'' links can help readers by directing them immediately to a resource without their having to copy&paste and/or search for it, it seems to me that an external link does much the same thing.

By the implied reasoning of your edits, pretty much any external link should be excised from the body of an article. Is there any way to delineate when it's considered OK and when it is an advert?

You also edited factual statements out of the article on similar grounds, but again, I fail to see how this information amounted to an advert, as it merely informed the article's readers how close to the event the submissions cut-off was.

That information is no more an advertisement than noting the fact that public submissions are accepted in the first place, or that there is no deadline for submissions -- or that it is an annual event, that it's location alternates between Place A and Place B, or that a specific type of software can be used for a given task.

I want to understand and learn more about the MOS, so if you can cite relevant references to it to explain your edits, I'd appreciate them.

Thanks by the way, for adding the categories.

-- [[User:CounterCorp|CounterCorp]]

==Re: Skate punk==
Hehheh, thanks a lot. I really appreciate that. I try to do at least a bit of research for an AfD discussion... and I try to be persuasive (but that's not just in AfD discussions). So once again, thanks for the kind words, man. I think every editor's goal should be to make WP better, and hopefully, I do. -- [[User:Kicking222|Kicking222]] 01:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Constructivism==
Hi Luna. Thanks a lot for fixing my merge template - first time I've done one. I'm on a very steep learning curve! --[[User:Heidijane|Heidijane]] 11:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==X-American list proposal==
Hi, I am contacting you as you have expressed some interest in the current arguments over lists of X-Americans. I would appreciate if you could have a read of my proposal and state whether you support or oppose it [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans]]. Thanks! [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 11:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Common Knowledge!==
A quick simple Google search [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid+ranking+chart&btnG=Google+Search] Returns these results in the top 15: [http://www.extreme-athlete.com/pharmarank.htm] [http://www.steroidportal.com/s-Anabolic-Steroid-Ranking-System-.html] [http://www.pharmaeurope.com/steroid_ratings.php] [http://www.steroidanabolic.com/steroids_rating.html] [http://www.steroidtips.com/steroidrank.htm] (blacklisted: domesticgearDOTcom/steroidranking.htm)

Like I said before, its common knowledge! I see it as similar to creating a table of the Olympic team’s scores after the last Olympics. This likewise was a rating of performance; just in this case a different more controversial subject was being rated.

It is my opinion that the sharing of information should never be curtailed in anyway, whatever the information or source. Furthermore, if wikipedia has come to the point in its life cycle were informative content is edited away for fear of legal ramifications; maybe it is time for another bolder site to arise.

Yes, a smaller less popular site, somewhere lawyers won’t think to go for at least a few years… now that’s not paraphrased. Someplace with more pictures for us visual orientated folk who like to see bright colors and movement and shinny things. I will refrain from making any edits at wikipedia from now on because every time I do, I just get annoyed. {{unsigned|Robertsloca}}

== King's Highway (Ontario) ==

As it was just created (minutes after he did the CfD), I was able to have it deleted. Then, SPUI got an administrator to put it back. Would you support removal at Redirects for Deletion? If so, I'll gladly nominate it.
:--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 04:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

We're at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion#King's Highway (Ontario) → List of Ontario provincial highways]].
:--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 04:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:Ah! I was out, tonight, sorry I missed your message. Your talk page suggests I should respond here, so here goes. I've supported the RfD, and would probably do the same for any similar discussions. Thanks. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 10:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::Thank you, but unfortunately, Freak overruled everybody already, and declared us misguided and bad faith.
:::--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 02:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Ah, another day on Wikipedia. ;) S'pose we won the CfD, that struck me as the important one. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 08:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== WTF? ==

OK basically I'm complaining - I get blocked all the time for Vandalism I haven't done, even by accident. I use this website for research (usually it renders the rest of the internet redundant) so I never edit any of your pages. But I get mesages ALOT saying I've been editing pages I haven't even been to.
What's going on? It seems unlikely that all your computers are going wrong or that an administrator is pissed off at me, so could it be a security problem? —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:62.171.198.4|62.171.198.4]] ([[User talk:62.171.198.4|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/62.171.198.4|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:I'll respond both here and on your talk page. Your IP address appears to be registered to a school, which would mean that all (or many) of the computers at the school connect to the internet through that same address (in networking, this is sometimes called a proxy server). Because we can only log edits by an anonymous user according to their IP address, all edits by anyone in the school are logged under the same address. Does that make sense? I can sympathize, really. If you'd like to avoid those messages, you can [[Special:Userlogin|create an account for yourself]]. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 20:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== [[EDO Corporation]] ==

Hi Luna,

Can you please explain to me what exactly is your problem with the EDO Corporation material that you keep editing? --[[User:212.100.250.208|212.100.250.208]] 20:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
:Replying here, since I can't be sure what IP you'll be under whenever you get this. The first time I looked at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EDO_Corporation&diff=63128384&oldid=63094227 this diff], my impression was that you'd blanked the page and replaced it with a political protest; the keyword there is impression, of course, I'm only human. Regardless of our political views, I doubt it would ever be acceptable to have a page's introductory heading read "EDO: Every Death an Opportunity;" as an encyclopedia, we should strive to write from a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. That particular heading, plus a very quick read over the material, plus the blanking, set off my intuition, if that makes sense. The second problem is a bit more straightforward -- in the event that we're going to say nasty things about people, we need to have a source for it, to conform to these two very important policies: [[WP:NOR|no original research]], and [[WP:V|verifiability]] (see [[WP:CITE]] for more information). Hope that helps. Feel free to ask any other questions, I strive to be approachable. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 20:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

== Toutching my penis as I write this ==

== Speedy ==

Hi Luna. No worries. It's not your fault anyway. It's about the [[WP:VPRF]]. Cheers -- ''[[User:FayssalF|Szvest]] 12:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)'' [[User talk:FayssalF|''Wiki me up'']]

== Hello Luna! ==

Hi Luna,

I am cavalierkingcharlesspaniel and was glad that i received a message from you. I do have some questions about wikipedia and was wondering if you could answer them. I joined wikipedia to do different things and do a few pages about my interests and other things, but I don't knlow what user talks are and watchlists are. I don't quite know how to send messages to people and to do other things. would it be possible for you to tell me how to do all of these things?

{{[[User:Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel]] 16:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)}}

== Re:Oops ==

Very sorry about [[Testing! With KITTENS!|that]], I was fiddling with comment inputboxes, that was supposed to go into my sandbox. Appears I accidentally used a creation inputbox (now fixed). You deleted before I even managed to get a db-author onto it. So, um, thanks and sorry! [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 07:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
*No problem. Can happen with all of us. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|(Check!)]] 07:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
*I have moved it to [[User:Luna Santin/Sandbox]], so that you can continue the testing. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|(Check!)]] 07:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thank You! ==

Luna,

Thank you so much for your kind and generous help with getting my talk and watchlists set up. I visited the places that you told me to visit and they've really helped! Thank you again for your sincere help. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel]] ([[User talk:Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

==Reverts on [[Vagina]]==
i can see why you would re edit the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vagina&diff=prev&oldid=63782438] but to call my changes nonsense? that was uncalled for. i can see that they were most certainly offensive, and crude. however, they made perfect sense. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:211.30.216.131|211.30.216.131]] ([[User talk:211.30.216.131|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/211.30.216.131|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:Here's my revert: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vagina&diff=next&oldid=63782438]. Nothing in there says "nonsense." And yep, that was [[WP:-(|vandalism]]. Anything else? [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 14:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Thank you!!==
For defending my user page against vandalism. It is much appreciated [[User:Bwithh|Bwithh]] 14:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you I kind of know wikipedia about 68%. I just need help requesting for an administrator for wikipedia and see how many edits I did. Can you help me with that?. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:70.23.146.3|70.23.146.3]] ([[User talk:70.23.146.3|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.23.146.3|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:It's difficult for me to figure the edit count of an anonymouos user; I'm not sure if I understand your other question. Feel free to ask again.[[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Luna... another question ==

Hello Luna,

I have yet another question. This has to do with the user email. I was browsing around and could not find out how to get onto the email here at wikipdedia. Thank you so much for helping me out with using wikipedia. {cavalierkingcharlesspaniel}
:Sorry, this is yet another message from cavalierkingcharlesspaniel. I'm sorry that my questions are nonsense and I seem very dumb. I figured out how to get the 'email this user' button working. It is in the toolbox at the bottom with the setting 'email this user'
:Thank you! —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|cavalierkingcharlesspaniel]] ([[User talk:cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/cavalierkingcharlesspaniel|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
::No problem. Glad you got it. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 20:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hello, i received a message on wikipedia from yourself stating:
"It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed content from Aum. Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Luna Santin 13:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)"

Firstly please let me apologise for removing the content without providing a valid reason as i was not aware of this rule. I am a webmaster of many Sikhism related websites which receive a lot of hits from people wishing to learn about the Sikh religion and spirituality.
To say that "Ek Onkar" is derived from "Aum" is incorrect and actually offensive to Sikhs. Sikhism is a distinct religion from Hinduism and the "Ek Onkar" sign far from being a derivative of "Aum" actually created a polar opposite to it. Its like saying the name "Allah" should be included here as what it represents (One God) is a polar opposite to the many Gods of Hinduism. Similarly "Ek Onkar" is a polar opposite to "Aum" as its belief is in One God and was not a derivative. To say "Om in Sikh tradition" is a contradiction in terms. The "stylised Ek Onkar" too is incorrect. Right-wing Hindus use these most fundamental of Sikh symbols to claim Sikhism is not a religion but merely a part of Hinduism. To say "Guru Nanak, by placing the number 1 in front of Onkar.." and the supposition that the founder of a faith of several million people merely put a one in front of "Aum" is offensive.
Guru Nanak recognised Hindu thought and used it in Gurbani but when you use the most fundamental symbols of any faith you should use them with utmost care. Symbols are often manipulated in this way by right-wing people wishing to cause offense. "Ek Onkar" is a polar opposite to "Aum" so why mention it and if you will then also please mention "Allah" as "Allah" too is used in Sikh daily prayers in the Sikh religion.

== Re: Diamondlady AfD ==

Thank you! I hate it when people who might misunderstand Wikipedia policy take AfD discussions personally, so I try to make sure they know as much as possible about the process and policies so the bases for any decisions are understood. Seems like the best way to keep things civil and on the right track. Thanks for your kind words! -- '''[[User:HumbleGod|H·G]]''' ([[User_talk:HumbleGod|words]]/[[Special:Contributions/HumbleGod|works]]) 01:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-07-10_Pussing|Mediation case]] ==

*I wonder why a case was opened about me without notifying me. Although the matter is generally moot now that the article is deleted, I would have liked a chance to speak my case. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
**I wasn't upset or anything, just surprised. :) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

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==University of Waterloo Womyn/Women's Centre==

Just to note on the recent change and revert on the Womyn's Centre name. The official name currently is the Womyn's Centre. It will not be changed to the Women's Centre until the bylaw change is ratified at the Fall General Meeting of the Corporation. (All bylaw changes must be ratified at a GM). The reason people may believe it is changed is over the recently adopted Service Review Recommendation that was adopted by Student's Council last month. This was a recommendation to bring forward the bylaw change to the GM, which it will be. Despite that resolution, the name is currently the Womyn's Centre and your revert was correct. I noted this information on the talk page as well. Thanks for catching it :) [[User:Kratoz|Jeff]] 03:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Hi Luna,
thank you for the welcome. I honestly try to do the right thing, if not, I hope you, or someone else tells me how to do better.
--[[User:AustralienfanRita|AustralienfanRita]] 08:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== the [[Violin]] article ==

I tried to fix vandalism, but I mistakenly reverted to the current version. [[User:70.20.238.245|70.20.238.245]] 11:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== Hi Luna ==

I'm a new kid on the block here

everything seems to be so hard to use!!!!

thanks for contacting me

best wishes

Lala

==Please vote more clearly so we get the right outcome==
Could I ask you to return to the discussion on deletion of multiracial categories and vote using a clearer word, ie delete, as it is touch and go that the right outcome is going to be achieved. The link is at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_14&action=edit&section=8] Thank you. [[User:Chicheley|Chicheley]] 22:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks :) ==
Thanks for reverting the recent vandalism to my userpage :). [[User:Fabricationary|Fabricationary]] 03:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

== grouping attendants ==

[[Image:Pdc université populaire amlr.png|right|150px|Université populaire]]

Hello Luna,

Concerning the ''group of users'' issue in the village pump, [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#New_User_categories|I answered you]]. I also started a talk page dedicated to the topic, for further outlooks. Please come at [[User:Lilliputian/Central_Lilliputian_Agency/Grouping_users#Follow-up |this page]] as a follow-up.

Yours,

Lilliputian
12:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

:Hi lad,

:[[Talk:Michel_Onfray#His_university|I have another topic]]. Should you know people who could deal with it, please let me know.--[[User:Lilliputian|Lilliputian]] 13:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

== My RfA result's back... I'm positive! ==

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:Thank you for the trust you put in me, I won't let you down. :) ~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]|[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) 02:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar! ==

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== English translation of a dutch sentence ==

Well I need the help with the translation of a sentence from a page I am using as a reference. I can not get any meaningful translation from babelfish and the Dutch wikipedia people don't seem to have the helpme tag. I hope someone here itself could help me then.

I hope you could help me find someone who can translate this sentence:
Kelly’s grootste doorbraak maakt ze als deelneemster van Big Brother the Battle (derde editie, 2001).
[[User:Unitedroad|Unitedroad]] 11:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I could do with this help because noone at the Dutch wikipedia that I contacted seems to be responding.
[[User:Unitedroad|Unitedroad]] 11:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Mate I would obliged if you can help me with it. Waiting for your reply
[[User:Unitedroad|Unitedroad]] 11:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation: Kelly's biggest breakthrough she made as a participant in Big Brother the Battle (third edition, 2001).

==Heh heh, DVC, eh?==
I'm studying right over the hill at Contra Costa College, nice to know there's more than one Wikipedian from the Contra Costa Community College District ;) [[User:FCYTravis|FCYTravis]] 19:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Hi there! Thanks so much for helping out with the table! [[User:Hoopydink/Esperanza|'''hoopydink''']][[User talk:Hoopydink|Conas tá tú?]] 22:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Irfu_ball.jpg|thumb|150px|right|Cheers!]]

== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg ==

Luna:

As per your note, I uploaded a new image and used the pull-down menu to mark it as a public domain (US government image). I kept the same name but told wiki to delete the former.

However, when I look at the image, the message about copyright still shows up. Did I properly tage the new version? Does it take a few days for the system to replace the old version with the new? I'm still new to this game but intend to occasionally write articles in the future.

--[[User:Johnfmh|Johnfmh]] 09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)John

== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg ==

Cool beans. I did it. Thanks Luna. Very simple once I ''got it''. Perfect. --[[User:Johnfmh|Johnfmh]] 09:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

== 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict ==

Thanks for fixing that. I've been having a lot of problems lately with that Firefox and Google toolbar bug.--[[User:PiMaster3|PiMaster3]] 15:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

== [[List of Ohio State University people]] ==

I received this mail from you:

It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed content from List of Ohio State University people. Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Luna Santin 16:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:70.227.193.40"

'''''Check your sources before you post information!! Your service(s) to the community are embarassing and you are precluding me from obviating interaction with you!'''''

—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:70.227.193.40|70.227.193.40]] ([[User talk:70.227.193.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.227.193.40|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:Moved from suggestions page. Replied at your talk page. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 17:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
==Talk Page==
I'm some what of a new user. I'm figuring things out - slowly. How do I create a talk page and how do I put my text on a new line without all the [[br /]].
[[Image:Irfu_ball.jpg|150px|right|Just messin' around!]]
--[[User:Sacredvisions|SacredVisions]] 00:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

== Third party for the "Talk page" affaire ==

Thanks for your answer on the Help Desk page, it really helped me :). Now I would issue a warning but I would rather have someone else do it, so I won't look like I'm after him specifically.

Thanks!
--[[User:Aristiana|Aristiana]] 22:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
:As you were replying in my talk page I was reverting. So consider it done! Thanks again. --[[User:Aristiana|Aristiana]] 22:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

== reno 911 ==

i apologize.

==Thanks==
Thanks for the Info! --[[User:Sacredvisions|SacredVisions]] 18:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== "rmvd advert link" (article "Hermit") ==

Hi, Luna, I was surprised at your reason for removing the link. I had a quick look at it and did not get the impression that its purpose is "advert". So, I would not remove it for this reason. But same quick look also did not convince me that it is a presentation suitable in this context. Should this link not go into the Carthusian article? (Em, I haven't checked but assume Wikipedia has one on the Carthusians.) 19:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:I'll reply both here and on your talk page, to hopefully be sure you see it. More than happy to discuss -- if you're curious, have a look at [[Special:Contributions/Luna Santin|my recent contribs]], and you should see that I spent a decent chunk of last night removing quite a few links to that website. Then, if you like, have a look at [[Special:Contributions/203.97.0.38|203.97.0.38's contribs]], and you'll see that they spent the past two or three months adding around forty references to what appears to be their personal website. Articles exploring the symbolic links between Jesus and the Hiroshima bombings surely can't have a high encyclopedic relevance to quite that many articles, no? If there was an article the site was truly relevant to, we might point to a specific article, though I admit I'm not optimistic in that regard. Thanks for contacting me, [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 20:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Removal of links to www.liturgy.co.nz ==

Greetings Luna

I think there may have been a number of misunderstandings.
I think you went to the Hiroshima page where you found a link to a page on my site which relates World Peace Day, Hiroshima Day, and the Feast of the Transfiguration (August 6). You then made the call that this is not of encyclopaedic value - others might judge differently, that is not my point.
You then went on to a number of other pages on the assumption, I think, that the links went merely to the Hiroshima page. They did not. Had you looked at the link, you would have seen they go to different pages appropriate to the subject IMO.

You have removed all the links from all the pages.

There was a link from "Liturgy", for example. Having removed the link to www.liturgy.co.nz which presents contemporary liturgical theory and practice, what is left in Wikipedia is a link to "Catholic Encyclopedia" written in 1908! And a link to the Quakers who are explicitly non-liturgical! I am new at all this, and realise I may not have understood and followed all appropriate protocols, and I apologise for that. However, I think the removal of all links to www.liturgy.co.nz is surprisingly over-reacting. There is nothing being advertised on that site. And I can assure you, in tracking visitors to the site from Wikipedia, that those who arrive on www.liturgy.co.nz visit a considerable number of pages, spend significant time on what they sometimes feed-back to have been a helpful resource, and make return visits.

Most of the alterations to Wikipedia sites attributed to the IP address are not mine. I realise it may be better if I create an account, and now understand that I would have been better off placing my link through the discussion areas on a page. However, I still consider the removal of all links, without having looked around www.liturgy.co.nz more carefully, also a bit strong, and hope you will consider restoring them.

With every best wish

[[User:203.97.0.38|203.97.0.38]] 05:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sabado Gigante ==

Hi... and Sorry!

I forgot sign in to edit pages... so i´m not a vandal!
So, edit & redir in Sabado Gigante page is because in spanish the name is "Sábado Gigante", but not is in english (the "á" type in english not exist!

Please include the correct name in Wiki... for everybody and not only spanish users!

Bye... raulpt

== [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subway_%28rail%29&diff=65944180&oldid=65943939 please don't use VP as a license to revert all anons blindly] ==
Thank you--[[User:71.249.1.156|71.249.1.156]] 11:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:Will reply both here and on your talk page. That assumes I was blind. I will apologize for using VP, if that implies to you that the edit was vandalism, but your redirect is not appropriate, as New York is far from being the only city with a subway system, and the tone of your edit summary [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subway_%28rail%29&diff=65943939&oldid=65608413] was far from civil. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 12:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:*Well, I avoided the assumption that you were enaging in willing vandalism, my mistake, since mass transit is not a form of subway, and the redirect was created just to subvert consensus on [[subway]], and was created by someone who seems to have over 60 blocks for disruption, I was tempted just to speedy it--[[User:71.249.1.156|71.249.1.156]] 12:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::*OHNOZ HE CALLED ME A VANDAL. Seriously, you'll get a much better reaction from people if you don't open up with a full offensive, from the get-go. We're all people, we all make mistakes. Both of us have made one or two, here. Just for your own future reference, when you're acting on talk page consensus (doubly so when it's another article's talk page), it never hurts to say so. I honestly would not have reverted, if you had -- discussed, probably, but not immediately reverted. I review over a thousand edits a day, and I have to make a judgement call with the best information I have available; it really isn't reasonable to expect RC patrollers to go hunting for all related talk pages, so I do have to ask you to bear that in mind, just for your future editing. Before you ask, yes, I'll be chalking this down as an error in my log. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 12:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Um, hi, this is all a bit confusing!!
I'd love to start helping Wikipedia and thank you for welcoming me.
Is this all done through the site? Or are some members on IM's to each other?
COuln't find that in the FAQ....
I would say more but I'm not even sure I'm actually talking to someone, or editing a page...lol

== Thanks for your Help ==

Thanks for your help in adding [[Resident Evil Orchestra]] to the Resident Evil Template and linking me to those useful articles :) 
--[[User:MikeTheRaptor|MikeTheRaptor]] 22:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks==
For reverting vandalism to my user talk page :) [[User:Mushroom|Mushroom]] ([[User talk:Mushroom|Talk]]) 12:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== straw poll ==

Good idea - for the reasons you provided - but probably won't work - for the reasons he provided... "Wikipedia is no democracy". We've had several polls in the past, to no avail. My latest attempt is new... zeroing in on a fundamental logical inconsistency in his own argument. Since logical consistency is what he uses as his defense, showing that his own position lacks it may prove to be effective. Your help in doing so would be appreciated... --[[User:Serge Issakov|Serge]] 16:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the welcome message! --[[User:Jonathan Seiner|TheM62Manchester]] 11:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

== my addition to cocaine ==

This is from personal observations of the club scene in Scottsdale AZ. Do you need supporting articles for this new behvaior whic his ruining upper middle class families pumped up by inflated housing values and stressed out lives... I can find some ... do I justify it to you?

== Welcome note ==

Hello. I don't know if this was an automatically generated message from you, but it is anyway polite to say ''thanks'' :o) [[User:PajaBG|PajaBG]] 12:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for all your help... ==

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== ? ==

What is RfA? --[[User:Sacredvisions|SacredVisions]] 00:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

==County Watch Vandals==
It is not a test they are vandals no restore it. And stop interwffing with edits you quite clearly do not understand.--[[User:84.9.195.114|84.9.195.114]] 11:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

:They are not good faith edits. The vandals know full well that what they are doing is incorrect. That they remove comments reporting it is evidence of that. Is typical of them. The are a bunch of propagandist at best.--[[User:84.9.195.114|84.9.195.114]] 12:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== User:Username entered already in use. ==
Yep it's probably him. But the thing is, he used it AFTER the block expired. As he pointed out, there is nothing wrong with starting another account as long as he isn't trying to get around a ban and he wasn't. As for Bbnsv, it's iffy. I'm going to request a checkuser later today. If that was him, than he was indeed trying to get around a block. I do find it quite odd that he suddenly stopped editing with his other account. --[[User:Woohookitty|''Woohookitty'']][[User talk:Woohookitty|(meow)]] 21:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the cites and input, much appreciated! [[User:Congirl|Congirl]] 22:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Congirl

== HTML ==

Yes, I had checked the "raw signature" box, but when I, just to make sure, unchecked and checked the box, it worked, for some reason.
:What the heck? Now it's not working again (by that I mean my signature)...this is getting a bit creepy. You know, "creepy" is a pretty cool word. I could go on and on about how great it is all day. Yup. [[User:Llama man|Llama man]]
::Thanks, your suggestion worked! Of course, this is only a small step for llamas and a giant step for llamakind! Currently, though, the llamas are busy defeating evil oatmeal cookies who plot to take over the world with [[Fawful|mustard of doom]] in their chocolate chips! -[[User:Llama man| TheGreatLlama]] 00:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

==A Reverted Edit in Latin Conjugation==
In [[Latin_conjugation|Latin conjugation]], you reverted my edits (I wasn't logged in). Yes, I know. I know; it's taking a long time, but I edited it so that the article would explain the four conjugations' principle parts better. I will continue working on that section in a wordpad file. Once I'm finished, I'd like to paste it in the article. Thanks for your time! That article needed some heavy revamping from its start. Bye. --[[User:Blurrzuki|Blurrzuki]] 05:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome, and there was no offense taken. I'll edit in notepad, so I don't have to remove large sections. Thanks again. --[[User:Blurrzuki|Blurrzuki]] 13:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== County edits ==

Hi, just thought you might want to know that 84.9.xxx.xxx is the favoured IP range of the permanently banned [[User:Irate]], who is well-known for causing trouble around articles, templates etc. related to UK counties, and for his curious interpretation of "vandalism". Sorry you got caught up with him! --[[User:RFBailey|RFBailey]] 09:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:For the sake of your own sanity, I'd advise staying out of it! Various people have tried and failed to resolve this, and related, disputes: there are entrenched opinions on both sides, who both "know" that they're right(!). --[[User:RFBailey|RFBailey]] 14:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Warning ==

[[Image:Stop hand.svg|left|30px]]This is your '''last warning'''. If you continue to make vandalism on the article minarchism or trollic actions on my user talk page, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] for disruption. --[[User:Forget it.|Forget it.]] 07:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
*Note -- this was reported to AN/I and the user has been subsequently blocked. See their talk page and contribs for other details. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 08:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:We'll get him stopped. I don't know why users like him think that they can get away with this stuff. --[[User:Woohookitty|''Woohookitty'']][[User talk:Woohookitty|(meow)]] 10:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the speedy help ==

The redirects I created do seem to work now (all pointing to Artists' Books). Could it be that they take a few minutes to register properly on the server? They definitely were doing weird double loop-di-loops for a few minutes after I created them. In any case THANKS for the help. You're right - that is fast. [[User:Emilyartinian|Emily Artinian]] 10:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== University of Dundee ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Dundee

It seems you have "reverted" back to a previous version of this page using VP?

Please note that the University of Dundee Logo is displayed on this page. This image is copyright and should not be displayed without permission. It may be that permission has been granted (I suspect not) in which case it would be good to show that this is the case. The image University of Dundee logo displayed on Wikipedia appears distorted and does not show the "protected area" of whitespace around the logo.

== Thanks for the help ==

Well, it's good to see that someone agrees with me, but I'm still annoyed by the anonymity of the user who slapped me with the vandalism tag. BTW, I've been editing WP for about two years now - the welcome box was nice, but a little unnecessary ^_^ [[User:CNash|CNash]] 12:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Ok thanks, no problem, but where has my page gone exactly?
I hope everything I wrote hasn't been deleted

Alex

:Oh ok no problem! Thanks for the welcome :-)

:All the best,
:Alex

== Commercial link ==

The link "Article about key loggers and trojan horses" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging is commercial. Please remove it. You can see that this article ended with links to commercial software(see "Related links"). This link is not true article.

== Ignatieff article ==

Hi Luna,

Thanks for your comments on the Ignatieff article. At present, there's a difference of opinion over whether the removed section should be included. Since the section reads as a personal attack, many of us feel that the information should be properly sourced and verified before inclusion. The talk page has more details, if you're so inclined.

:No worries about the confusion. I'll try to be more thorough in my edit summaries. :) [[User:198.20.40.50|198.20.40.50]] 22:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Hi==
Hi,
I made some derogatory remarks on the ambedkar page due to derogatory remarks made by an "ambedkarite" jamnadas, a pseudo-intellectual who is known for his anti=-hindu propaganda.His artcile on BG Tilak was added to the TIlak entry as the "dalit view of Tilak." This entry is very offensive towards followers of TIlak's ideologies, like myself. The Jamnadas article does not cite sources and only reflects one person's view. In fact, the "dalit view on TIlak" isnt important enough to be included in a wikipedia entry on TIlak. I realize i shouldnt have vandalized the ambedkar page. It was done in a fit of passion as I was offended by their views. However, i beleive my trying to delete the dalit view of tilak section is justified. please do resolve this ASAP —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:72.152.144.21|72.152.144.21]] ([[User talk:72.152.144.21|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/72.152.144.21|contribs]]) 2 August 2006.

==No title==
Tell him stop steal home page. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:74.136.222.198|74.136.222.198]] ([[User talk:74.136.222.198|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.136.222.198|contribs]]) 3 August 2006.

== Citations? ==

Hi Luna,

I thought that you weren't supposed to put something up on Wikipedia unless it had been published elsewhere.

I added the entries "Jugnu Mohsin" and "Ejaz Haider" thinking that to be the case, but didn't know how to link the entries to the original websites from which I'd basically copied and pasted the information.

How does this work? How does one prove that the information has already been published and how does add a citation?

Cheers,
Imad
[[User:Imaduddin|Imaduddin]] 11:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== *poke* ==

'allo, Luna.

Hope your editing is going well. Keep those vandals away! *whips out her pepper spray and garlic*

Also, Luna rawks the socks.

<3 [[User:Midnight Critter|Midnight Critter]] 08:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== keylogger article ==

Greetings Luna,

I am responding to your deleting of my helpful external link. You asked me to justify the encylopedic value fo this link. I think it is one of many examples of this type of software. As an IT manager for my company, I have tested many of these types of programs and this is the one we deployed several times when an employee was suspected of fraudulant activities.

I am new to wikipedia and obviously not as active as you are. However, I believe the link is valuable. I would also like to ask you, what is the encylopedic value of the other external links? Most importantly:

http://www.monitoringsoftwarereviews.org/ which is clearly a commercial site that is selling many types of these programs under affiliate programs.

The link I am proposing is a direct example of what is already mentioned on the article "and additionally, some programs also record or take snapshots of what is displayed on the screen."

Thank you. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Cheezyd|Cheezyd]] ([[User talk:Cheezyd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheezyd|contribs]]) 4 August 2006.

== Thanks ==

Thanks for your kind welcome :) I only use this ID to make articles though and prefer editing under my IP so people can be sure where I am from. [[User:Mema435|Mema435]] 13:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== keylogger article edits ==

Hi thank you for your reply.

I agree, that spam is a problem in all forms, including wiki spam. I read the guidelines for external links as you suggested and I see what you are getting at. I also agree that the link I added is to a site selling something. It is the web site of a company. By design, all companies sell something.

From searching around previously, I could not find any open source or freeware versions of this type of software. If an open source (not for profit) existed, I think it would be a better choice as a link.

While I haven’t edited any wikipedia articles until now, I have used wikipedia for a very long time. I have noticed that many wikipedia articles link externally to company web sites. And, as I pointed out, all of these companies are in the business of selling products or services. For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_stock has links to both Kodak and Fuji web sites which sell film.

Or, for something closer to the topic we are discussing…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware links to Lavasoft and Safer Networking (under Software). Both companies sell software to prevent spyware. Under a strict interpretation of the external link guidelines, both of these should be removed.

However, I do think they have value. Users come here for information. And it is reasonable to assume that some of the people looking up “spyware” actually have spyware on their machines and need help getting rid of it. In which case, the article would not only inform them, but also help them. Which I think is great.

By the same token, someone looking up keyloggers could either be a scholar or a person who needs one. In a paper encyclopedia, under “snake”, the best you can do is have a picture of a snake. But wouldn’t it be cooler to have a piece of snake skin too? This is, in my opinion, the best part of wikipedia. The ability to provide “real” examples. Either by embedded pictures, sound or video, or by linking to external sites. As a result, I think an external link to a site with keylogging software would improve the article. And that is what we are here for isn’t it? To improve the articles?

To be honest, this will probably be the last time I edit an article. While I usually view debate and discussion as a good thing, in this case I didn’t expect to spend so much time defending my small, first time, edit. I can only imagine this probably goes on quite a bit so maybe being an editor is biting of more than I can chew.

You seem to have adopted this article and are very protective of it. So I will leave it up to you. Change my link if you want to. Delete it if you want to. I believe it has merit.

Regard,

CheezyD

== IT WOULD HELP ==

if you read all of what has been going on on my talk page.

And my question got awnsered.... by ME!!!

have a nice day,--[[User:Missingno|'''''Mi''''']][[User_talk:Missingno|'''''ss''''']][[Special:Contributions/Missingno|'''''in''''']][[User:Missingno/ Women I Love|'''''gn''''']][[Missingno|'''''o.''''']] 21:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Luna Santin

2008-04-02T07:42:21Z

Andochine: /* Can you check on something - weird */ Welcome

{{/Header}}


== a [[PageRank]] boost for [[Wikia]] ==

Hi. I saw your comments at [[Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction)#Relocating non-notable fictional material]] and would like to point out an issue; one I've raised before and gotten nowhere with. See these example links:
* http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate:Children_of_the_Gods
* [[wikia:Stargate:Children of the Gods]]
They both go to the same place; the first has a <tt>rel="[[nofollow]]"</tt> automatically added while the second does not. This gives [[Wikia]] a [[PageRank]] boost for every usage (and there are many thousands) of the interwiki form of link. I believe that this happens for other prefixes, too, but am not sure. This needs to be changed for the same reasons that the regular link has the nofollow inserted. This is a serious [[conflict of interest]] for the non-profit org vs the for-profit Wikia as the same god-king is involved. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 14:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

::Well, it gives anything on the [[m:Interwiki map]] a PageRank, in theory. I tried to let some people know about it as well, but I should probably have left a note on the meta talk page. I'll do that now. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 23:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That's an interesting point, and thanks to you both for pointing it out to me. I've been mulling it over a bit, not sure quite what to make of it. I tend to think interwiki links are handy, if we're regularly linking to a given site, but the nofollow issue may complicate that analysis (especially given possible conflicts of interest, if there's not a WMF-centric reason for their inclusion in the link list). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::::It should be a very easy fix, I'm just not sure who to tell this to. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 09:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== History merge... ==

Hey, when you merged the [[WP:SUICIDE]] articles, you didn't do a history merge. Might want to do that... 8-) [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] ([[User talk:Georgewilliamherbert|talk]]) 05:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, is that standard practice? I'd figured I shouldn't, in case somebody wanted to reverse the merge -- I did act unilaterally, after all, even if I waited a while. But I'm not feeling picky about it (if anybody wants to, feel free; if not, tell me I should). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 10:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Mmm, History merge is kinda hard to undo, and makes history navigation harder, I don't think we routinely perform these. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] [[User talk:Lucasbfr|talk]] 09:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Jamiechef2 ==

Hey - noticed you reverted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=197647790&oldid=197612380 this], thanks... can you check the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Jamiechef2Jamiechef2 rfcu page] and the couple things I've sent Alison [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alison#You_may_not_believe_this... since]? Nobody's gotten around to blocking this abuser since the CU was proven. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for prodding me about it. Any mentioned account is blocked (either already was or is now); they may be coming at us from a dynamic IP, so I've semi-protected both [[Hummus]] (two weeks) and [[Talk:Hummus]] (five hours). Anywhere else they're currently active? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::They hit [[Mujaddara]]... you might ask a checkuser to re-run the check, every time Alison runs it she finds 2-3 extra new socks popping up (see what I mean on the rfcu page linked above). It's a pain to fix made worse by users like Tiamut and Jd2718 who are likely not socks but tend to agree with Jamiechef2's POV-pushing. Also has been known to pop up on Za'atar and Falafel, though Falafel is protected right now already thanks to Tiamut going at it with Gilabrand. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Checked around once or twice, but haven't seen any more of them; if I'm just missing it, or if they come back, feel free to grab me or post to [[WP:AN/I]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User_talk:Wwwhatsup]] ==

Thanks for looking out. I've been a bit too busy to look after it myself these last few days. [[User:Wwwhatsup|Wwwhatsup]] ([[User talk:Wwwhatsup|talk]]) 09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sure thing. Feel free to let me know if you have any more problems in that area. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] ([[User talk:Toddst1|talk]]) 00:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Maybe DRINKING as little too much rum ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335]. LOL... Its all good. I could use a drink myself, now that you mention it... --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh, yeah, not sure where that one came from. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User:Christopher Mann McKay]] ==

I don't really object to this unblocking. Perhaps indef was too long but it seemed to me that having reached an impasse on [[WP:ANI]] over the use of that image, he was then upping the stakes by not only taunting [[User:Prester John]] (for whose stance I have equally little tolerance), but also adding an even more offensive caption to the original image. However, CMM seems to have realised that this sort of behaviour is not going to go down too well. Regards. --'''[[User:Rodhullandemu|'''Rodhullandemu''']]''' ([[User_talk:Rodhullandemu|Talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Cool beans. We'll see where this goes. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Hummus]]==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hummus&curid=75065&diff=198050939&oldid=197649541 I question this edit, which has removed etymological information] and strays from previous consensus not to include additional transliterations in the header. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Can you point me to this supposed "consensus"? I sure as heck [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hummus can't find one here]. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194144774&oldid=194144069][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194146837&oldid=194145440]. I'm neutral as to what additional transliterations might go into the header, but I question making this change again without any discussion. Moreover, you removed additional Arab language material without discussion. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::All well and good, but I'm not sure why this is on my talk page in particular. I was acting to stop some pretty clear harassment, and have no other involvement in the article itself. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Gwen's been on some kick to attack me all of a sudden, I'm not sure why. I especially wonder why she quotes a "consensus" based largely on massive sockpuppetry (tons of names, plus a lot of IPs on that page that match) by {{checkuser|Jamiechef2}}: stuff like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hummus&diff=prev&oldid=194144069 this]. Given that her own quotations on the page indicate that the etymological origin is un-knowable, I really don't understand why she chooses to attack me, unless there is something behind the scenes I'm unaware of. I'm also confused by discussions on her talk page in which she insinuates that the Jamiechef2 affair was a "false flag" attack. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 23:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I won't clutter up your talk page other than to say, the two diffs I provided above are not the edits of sockpuppets and I'm not attacking M1rth, I only questioned his sweeping edit to the lead of an article which has seen much edit warring and sockpuppetry. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 23:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Oh yes ==

[[Image:Three rums jvp.jpg|thumb|left|Mmmmmm RUM! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 23:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)]]
:Not to worry, there's a little [[Captain Morgan|admin]] in all of us. (bah, I'll be kicked out of this computer lab in a few minutes, classes and all that) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Haha. Funny. I have a pint of the ole' Cap'n and I was just mulling over a glass. Anyhow no vandal/troll slaying tool belt here, just the good old fighting tools. :P Great to talk to you again sir Santin! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335 Rum on the mind, Luna?] --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== problem with IP editor ==

Hi Luna - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luna_Santin&diff=prev&oldid=132506206 this person] seems to be back under his IP of {{user5|70.184.145.239}}, making the same incorrect edit of birthdate to [[Barbara Walters]] as done previously and doing the same on [[Michelle Stafford]]. Further, he blanked my talk page presumably in retaliation for my earlier reversion of same error, and another time replaced my talk with offensive language. I consider this harassment at this point - see contribution history. Can something be done about this? He has also edited as Cantwaitforit and Zachfins54. Thanks. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry for the delayed response; since they've clearly been at it for a while, now, and the IP doesn't appear to be shared and may have been used for abusive sockpuppetry on top of the visible problem edits, I've blocked all editing from that address for one year. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks - maybe he'll grow up. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Static school IP ==

*{{IPVandal|64.19.147.2‎}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 21:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Softblocked. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Cheers. Added the anon. block message to the Talk page. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 02:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Murphy==

I'm unfortunately turning into a bit of an admin pest here (not really my style!), posting first to [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#More_with_Don_Murphy|ANI]], then on LaraLove's talk page (she seems to have gone offline), and now to you. I'm a bit concerned over the situation over at [[Don Murphy]] given the past history of which you seem to be aware. See also [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:TheRealDonMurphy|this ANI thread]] for background. We have three new accounts (RTFA, Runabrat, and Curiosity Inc.) editing heavily at Murphy's article. Two of those strike me as obviously related (not too hard to tell which two) and it's possible that some or all of them are strongly pushing a POV and might be related to past banned accounts in some fashion (I'm still assuming good faith, but there's suspicious stuff there).

In any case, given the history I think admins or other higher-up types need to figure out what's going on with these accounts. After the last Don Murphy AfD I watchlisted the page specifically to be on the lookout for problems there (which I said I would do since I !voted to keep the article). I don't want some new big mess to crop up and I feel that someone who knows the background needs to take a look at this soon. Not trying to be overdramatic, just overcautious. Any thoughts about who to contact about this? I'm not an expert on this kind of situation and the ANI thread is not drawing much help, perhaps because not a lot of people understand what this is about (I don't even understand it all myself).

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'll check back here.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 02:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Will keep an eye out and contribute where I can. Worth keeping an eye on some of these new accounts, as long as we're careful about [[WP:BITE]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I think we should be a bit more pro-active given (from what I've heard at least) the supposed level of harassment that took place before. I'm a huge proponent of WP:BITE but I'd say the odds are 99 out of 100 that two of those accounts are related (the edit histories say it all) and this is not your typical situation. I have no idea who dealt with this before or how it was dealt with, my only objective in posting on ANI and contacting you was to make sure that ''whoever'' dealt with it in the past was aware of the situation. I don't know how to go about doing that, and that's all I really wanted help on.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Replied via email. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I'm not getting it so far, I think possibly because of a problem with Wiki e-mailing right now - I was not copied on an earlier message I sent out either. Probably just a delay.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Luna, this problem seems to have been partially dealt with (see ANI thread) but for whatever reason I did not receive your e-mail. If you happen to have a copy, would you mind forwarding it directly to my e-mail account? (I have a hotmail account, my Wiki user name is the first part of the address). If you don't have a copy then don't worry about it.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 15:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Shucks. I've resent, though now that Viridae's deleted the page it may be moot. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

== Can you check on something - weird ==
: You [[Jimbo cheated on his wife with the crazy bitch Rachel Marsden! He also co-founded Wikipedia with Larry Sanger! Angela Beesley was once a prostitute for Bomis.com, and Jimbo was her pimp! Jimbo also squirts his semen on a million other things!|deleted this page today]], and rightly so, but somehow it was on my watchlist after deletion. The only reason I can see that happening is that a page was moved to this title and then deleted. Can you check the deleted article's history and see if that is the case? I don't immediatelyFUCK make sense to me. Thanks for taking a look into it. ''''' • ''''' [[User:VigilancePrime|''''' VigilancePrime ''''']][[User talk:VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[Special:Contributions/VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[User:VigilancePrime/WikiEssays/WikiCFUCK[[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine|talk]]) 07:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)a|''''' • ''''']]''05:24 (UTC) 17 Mar '08''
::Huh. Pagemove vandalism, obviously. :) Only one deleted edit, when I moved it back home, but for whatever reason the summary only says "Moved ''foo'' to" (it cuts off). Might have hit the length limit? Unless some more complicated database issue is going on. I haven't fiddled with the ins and outs of moves vs. watchlists, too much, so I dunno if this is normal behavior. – Welcome, please don't call any of my posts abhorrent again.'08''

== Update static school ip block==

Hi Luna.

You helped me about a year ago with a block on an ip address range. We've since switched to a new five year agreement with a new ISP and have new ip addresses. I was hoping you could change the block for us.

The old addresses included 209.7.28.226-209.7.28.254.
The new addresses include 75.145.173.121-75.145.173.125.

If you need any more information from me, please feel free to contact me. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Imsaguy|Imsaguy]] ([[User talk:Imsaguy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Imsaguy|contribs]]) 15:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC) 

== IP vandal ==

Hey, can you help me with something? I caught a vandalism IP making disruptive edits today, so I reported it to AIV. The report was up at AIV for 30 minutes, and it was completely ignored by the admins patrolling AIV at the time.
The only possible explanation I can think of is that the admin(s) in question were hesitant to block the IP, but that's not reasonable. It's just off a block and has the "Further abuse from this IP may result in an extended block..." message on its talk page. Please take a look.

{{IPVandal|63.3.18.130}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 23:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Vandals ==

Thanks for taking care of the vandals. I was wondering, though, isn't it customary to put a notice on the user page or user talk page that the user has been indefinitely blocked? I had to check the block log for both users to see how they've been blocked. —[[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 03:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=199265269 reported] the toad for vandalizing Erik's page. Clearly, it's diaper-wearer who's unafraid to sock. Can we send him on his merry, little way? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:But you got it right away. Does it have to cycle through before it shows as indef ban? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Some admins do leave block notices; I tend not to, in cases of simple vandalism -- they're not going to have any trouble understanding why they're blocked, I suspect, and further communication may only encourage them. I've made some more lengthy replies at [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_26#lack_of_blocked_templates_on_user_talk_pages]] or [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_25#Luna]]. :) If this particular vandal comes back, feel free to let me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Smart money says they will be back, since a community ban takes too much time to permanently scrub the person's icky away. - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 06:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Insufficient block for 117.18.81.2==
You blocked [[User:117.18.81.2]] for just 48 hours despite two previous longer blocks and huge number of pages being vandalised today just after the last block was released. I think a much longer block is justified. --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, I just discovered this IP is a school, so a schoolblock is justified --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. :) I did find a good edit or two mixed in with the chaff, which makes me hesitate to give it a really long block -- if a shared IP is all bad edits for quite some time, I tend to block for a good while. Will be happy to revisit if it keeps being problematic without any apparent good users, or if consensus determines a longer block is appropriate. Think that covers your concerns? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Long time no see! ==

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:Good to see you're still about. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Same here. I saw that you beat me to reverting vandalism. And today is my first edit anniversary, as seen in my userpage. [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 22:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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== Thanks from APK ==

Thank you for the common sense judgment in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:User235&diff=199507364&oldid=199506999 unblock request review]. [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|AgnosticPreachersKid]] ([[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|talk]]) 02:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be a little help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== ANI ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=199529531&oldid=199529489] You just beat me to it. :P [[User:Tiptoety|Tiptoety]] [[User talk:Tiptoety|talk]] 05:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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:Heh, thank you both! :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[Natalie Gauci]] ==

Can you please consider unprotecting the page? There has been relatively little discussion about the disputes so far, thus I think its safe to say that edit-warring isn't likely to happen at an alarming rate, and things won't be as bad as before. Thanks. [[User:RaNdOm26|RaNdOm26]] ([[User talk:RaNdOm26|talk]]) 09:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Was about to say it's not protected, anymore, but see you got [[User:Gb|Gb]] to have a look. Cheers! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== thanks ==

your gallant help is very appreciated. [[User:Sssoul|Sssoul]] ([[User talk:Sssoul|talk]]) 15:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be of service. Feel free to let me know if you need any further input. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== IP block ==

[[Special:BlockIP/76.76.5.103|This]] may well be an open proxy. Came across it on Commons & via CU as well, cheers --[[User:Herbythyme|Herby]] [[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]] 20:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Gotcha, thanks for letting me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you. ==

I know I am argumentative, and not the easiest to handle. But I just want to thank you for what you said. Figured I'd say it before i got blocked. [[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 10:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== someone needs to make me seriously ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ani#Igniateff_is_Joshuarooney
[[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 12:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:I do take the accusation seriously, but at this precise moment I think it's most productive if everybody takes a breather. Calmer people make better decisions. Hope you understand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 12:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

==Removal of edit==
Hi. I'd be interested to know why you removed this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=next&oldid=200048665] from KingsleyMillers talkpage. Is it just because it contains personal attacks or is it because it was from an IP number? This IP number is in fact [[User:KingsleyMiller]] who quite often forgets to sign himself in but does not appear to be pretending to be anyone else, and this post is part of his ongoing campaign against me and [[User:Jean Mercer]] in relation to a ''riveting'' subject called [[maternal deprivation]].[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 14:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:An apparently "new" user who shows up and immediately starts rapidly spamming such messages looks suspicious; usually it's somebody evading a block or ban that does that, but at the very least it seems questionable under [[WP:CANVAS]] and possibly [[WP:HARASS]]. Now that I know a bit more, their discussion style seems a bit more abrasive than we're generally used to, but not to abrasive that dealing/discussing with them is impossible. I can maybe try to keep an eye on it, but hesitate to do anything myself at the moment. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Kip Miller has been around for a while and this style is pretty par for the course for him but he's not up to speed with policies. I'm not sure he's aware you've removed this particular post. I haven't asked anybody to do anything about his behaviour because he doesn't actually edit war in the articles but it is beginning to get a bit beyond a joke. [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 09:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, looks like somebody who manages to be abrasive without doing too many of the things that are "hot buttons" to get admin attention. If it's a problem, you might try an [[WP:RFC|RfC]] on user conduct; if not, it looks like you're managing okay so far. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for reverting the Vandalism on My talk page. '''[[user:thedjatclubrock|Thedjatclubrock :-)]]''' '''([[user_talk:thedjatclubrock|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Thedjatclubrock|C]])''' 03:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deleted article - H.A.G.G.E.R.?????? ==

I noticed that you deleted the bogus article "H.A.G.G.E.R.??????" recently.

The only reason I know this is because it was on my Watchlist. The thing is, I didn't put it there!

Are vandals able to edit user's Watchlists as well as vandalising articles? Just curious to know. [[User:Ozzieboy|Ozzieboy]] ([[User talk:Ozzieboy|talk]]) 19:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:The page was a target of pagemove vandalism, unfortunately (similar to [[#Can you check on something - weird]] above). Depending on what date it was moved and what you had/have on your watchlist, the article was either [[Zacarias Moussaoui]], [[The Economist]], or [[The Simpsons]]. Generally a watchlist entry will change when a page is moved, but I'm actually not totally sure what happens when it's moved ''back''. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sweet ==

Thanks for the protection on [[Maddox (writer)|Maddox]]. People keep trying to vandalize the page and it's driving me crazy! [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 23:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, hopefully things settle down a bit. Though given his particular place in net culture, we'll have to see. Will try to check back, but feel free to send me a message if things get out of hand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I will. You're right, though. Based on his popularity and who his fanbvase consists of, I don't see the vandalism ever truly going away. [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 22:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Kristy22 at [[WP:AN/I]] ==

Thank you. I was wondering what was going to be done with that entry. ... [[User:discospinster|'''disco''''''''spinster''''']] [[User talk:discospinster|'''talk''']] 01:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Epic Win Award! ==

[[Image:Face-grin.svg|128px|right]]
For [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABrandon%27s_a_Gaylord&diff=200753546&oldid=200751718 this]. No further comment necessary. <tt>:D</tt> Epic cheers, [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|'''13''']] 11:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh. :) Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 20:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

::I also find those kind of responses very funny. Keep it short and snappy. When a vandal calls everyone Nazis, just say "OK", or something to that effect. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 20:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hi LS, Just saw your protection of DS's page. Could you take a look at and consider semi-protection for all of his pages as per my request at WP:RfPP ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#User:David_Shankbone_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 here])? Thanks, [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd go ahead and semi his front page, but that's already done. I typically semi anything in userspace on good-faith request from the associated user. Granted he says he's on vacation, now. Got to get off to class, but if vandalism continues or I hear from David I'll look into it. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, and I've sent an email to DS. [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Just got back online. Was planning to ask DS, as well, though it's probably moot, now, since Maxim's gone ahead and protected. No skin off my nose. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Beautiful Formosa ==

*{{user3|Beautiful Formosa}}
This user has been editing disruptively. Having been warned numerous time by me, he/she seems to be ignoring the edit summaries of my reverts, and sometimes does not even leave any edit summaries while making unilateral moves and edits. He/She has also been adding unsourced contents to biographies of living people. Almost all of the edits are Taiwan-related and controversial. Please see his/her contributions for reference and take action (perhaps a short block). Thank you.--[[User:Jerrch|Jerrch]] 22:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Block of 124.180.116.122 ==

Thanks for blocking [[User:124.180.116.122]]; someone using this IP address has placed a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=200958736&oldid=200957528 bad faith report] on [[WP:AIV]] against me. Could you also protect [[User talk:124.180.116.122]] to prevent continued nonsense on the IP talk page? [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 02:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Besuto ==

He's a user requesting unblock, claiming one of your autoblocks got him. Can you take a look? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:Seems to be the same user as is currently blocked on the IP; was editing anon, and got into a bit of a spat, looks like. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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== Whoops! ==

It looks like we both tried to use rollback on the Hogwarts article at the same time and our edits crashed and burned! Sorry about that! --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 05:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. :) I realized a bit after hitting rollback that I should have been reverting to an earlier version, too, heh. Tcncv seems to have gotten it for the both of us. Always glad to see people helping out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 05:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Babyboywhiner ==

I wouldn't recommend unblocking this editor, as it appears to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_A&diff=prev&oldid=199803493 another sock of JJonz]. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah. Didn't have much idea who it was, but seemed pretty evident they weren't up to anything good. Thanks for the heads-up. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::I really feel sorry for [[User:David A]], since he has become the main target of this vandal. Think there is anything that can be done? Perhaps semi-protecing his user pages? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I could, although the user/user talk pages don't seem to be primary targets at the moment. =\ Depending on how active these socks are being, it may be worth asking [[WP:RFCU|checkusers]] to find sleeper accounts and/or block underlying IP addresses; semi-protection on repeat targets is likewise an option. I'm not sure how best to proceed, just yet, without seeing more of these socks in action. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for removing the block, I was wondering if there was any way that you can block all account creations from my I.P address (don’t block my account though). I wont want to start another account so that should be fine, because these types of incidents isn’t so good for my reputation (sharing an ip with a vandal) and I really don’t want it to happen again as it is a big time-waster. [[User:Fattyjwoods|Fattyjwoods]] ([[User talk:Fattyjwoods|Push my button]]) 04:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:If it continues to be an issue, I suppose we could see about it. Looks like it miiiight be dynamic? Wouldn't worry too much, though -- we used to have endemic problems with all of Singapore getting blocked accidentally, and as much of a hassle as it was, we managed. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Seeing from your user contribution you've done quite a bit of anti-vandal work....
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Awarded to Luna Santin for his/her great work fighting vandals. And blocking off vandalism accounts [[User:Fattyjwoods|Fattyjwoods]] ([[User talk:Fattyjwoods|Push my button]]) 04:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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:Why, thanks. :) We all do our parts, I figure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Socks ==

[[User:Mohun]] might well be another sock of DWhiskaZ. Contributions suggest it. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Islam&diff=prev&oldid=201907426 here]. [[User:Relata refero|Relata refero]] ([[User talk:Relata refero|talk]]) 09:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:I echo the same feeling; not sure if it's conclusive, yet, I'll poke around for second/third opinions and wait for more activity. I won't take any offense if you run this past someone else, in the meantime, of course. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for reverting vandalsim in my user page. [[User:Tanvir che|Tanvir che]] ([[User talk:Tanvir che|talk]]) 09:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thankyou ==

Thankyou for your help. It really helps. I hope the page explains it well. [[User:Chubbennaitor/Main Menu|'''Chubb''']][[User talk:Chubbennaitor|'''enna''']][[User:Chubbennaitor/Guestbook|''itor'']] 11:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[WP:RFCU/CN]] ==

Luna, just an FYI that I've responded to your post at [[WP:RFCU/CN#Folding]]. Would it be more suitable to simply be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and merge the pages? Just a thought, but it'd allow us to get it over and done with, rather than all this discussion, and get on with other things :) Thoughts? [[User:AGK|'''Anthøny''']] 11:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Global warming]]==
As you were reverting Ross's latest, I was typing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARossnixon&diff=202196396&oldid=197620900 this]. Just a heads-up. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] ([[User talk:Raymond arritt|talk]]) 01:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for keeping me up to speed. Guess I'll check back at some point in the future. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Respond to Luna Santin ==

No problem, I guess you were using a tool like [[WP:AVT]]? I pasted the working copy of the text I had and appended it to the existing text instead of replacing, by mistake. [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 01:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:That's the gist of it, yeah. :) Glad it's sorted, anyway. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Smile Time! ==

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WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! ''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''
</div> -[[user:WarthogDemon|'''Warthog''']][[User_talk:WarthogDemon|'''Demon''']] 02:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status ==

I am currently improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status, and noticed that you made substantial contributions to the article recently. If you have time, please help out in improving the article to Featured Article status. Thanks! [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 02:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Abusing page protection ==

Please don't abuse page protection. The discussions on the talk page, at the very least, were not all concluded. Blanking the closing statement itself is just stupid, as it contained nothing necessarily negative about anyone, and was calmly worded. This is just absentminded protection, and is not supported by the protection policy. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:The talk page didn't look very active, with no relevant edits in the past five days -- a more central forum may be more appropriate to continue the line of talk, anyway. Perhaps I'm acting a bit hastily, but ''if'' the matter is closed there are good reasons to blank the page. I see you're in ongoing discussion with Prodego, regarding said closure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I just have a bad taste in my mouth about this whole thing. Protection at this point is a trivial matter, and there's no need for me to be upset about it. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::No need to apologize. You've done nothing wrong that I can see, and I sympathize with your position (which I hope is a small consolation, at least). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Jeff Hardy dead ==

I didn't make it up, i seen it when i google searched a whole bunch of wrestling websites

not only that im sure that something was on myspace

just google search like i did —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thewwegod1|Thewwegod1]] ([[User talk:Thewwegod1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thewwegod1|contribs]]) 06:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 

== [[User talk:124.176.154.181]] ==

They requested an unblock. [[User:MaxSem|Max''S''em]]([[User talk:MaxSem|Han shot first!]]) 08:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:They were trolling off-site, bragging about how they'd vandalized and wouldn't be caught. Given prior interaction, I see no reason to unblock or believe a word they're saying (notice how they're predisposed to believe they're blocked for vandalism, without being told as much?)... but if others disagree, and somebody's willing to, I won't get in the way of an unblock. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== FAR nomination ==

[[Ku Klux Klan]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|featured article review]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|here]]. Reviewers' concerns are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/{{#if:|{{{2}}}|Ku Klux Klan}}|here]]. [[User:Orangemarlin|'''Orange''''''Marlin''']] [[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]] 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
==Communism==

Please give a valuable reason to you removed the AFD on communism. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:In all frankness, there's not a chance in hell a core topic article will be deleted -- that doesn't mean you can't work on it, in fact you're more than welcome to. If you'd rather start with a blank slate, starting a sandbox in your userspace is one option. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==[[Communism]] ==
[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|30px|]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]{{#if:| according to the reverts you have made on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. If you continue, '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. If necessary, pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. Please keep cool and ask me any questions if need be. Peace. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}} [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== User:Rahulkavalapara ==

Hi, Luna. I sure hope you're still online! We have what may be a returning vandal at [[User:Rahulkavalapara]] whose very first edit was a beautifully formatted...copyvio. Both he and his IP are removing the deletion notices; I also suspect the IP is an open proxy. Thanks for looking into this for me. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Around, but barely. ;) Deleted the page, will watch for more from {{user|24.119.165.139]] or {{user|Rahulkavalapara}}. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

*Likewise. Heading off to stare at the backs of my eyelids. Thanks for all you do. You are truly an asset to this site. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! ''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''
</div>
::I'm generally terrible at accepting compliments, so... well, thanks. :) We all do our part, I hope. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 19:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Quit being so gosh darn modest Luney Rum. You are as the kids say "the shit" and you rock. Now drink your rum like a good boy. [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 01:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::{{tl|fact}}, {{tl|fact}}, and yessir, with coke on the rocks. ;) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

==Maternal deprivation==
Actually Luna it is now getting out of hand. KingsleyMiller applied for arbitration which was turned down.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration] He appealed - which was simply removed, and now has appealed again by way of a request for clarification.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Request__for_clarification_-_Request_for_appeal_-_Wikipedia_Sexist_Editing_in_Child_Psychology] All that is fine - except for this on the bottom of the talkpage. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=prev&oldid=202623551] This seems to me a serious matter. The only arbitration JeanMercer and I have been involved in is with a sockpuppeteer (DPeterson was his most common name )who ran about 7 puppets to "own" all the attachment pages. He has been involved with real world disputes with JeanMercer before (in scientific papers) and his last entity, after the other 6 or 7 puppets were banned, was indef banned for breach of his sockpuppet ban which he did to harrass JeanMercer. The only other candidate for these '2 editors' is permabanned longtermabuser HeadleyDown. There was some evidence that he got in contact with the sockmaster during the last arbitration as well. Where do I make a formal complaint about this use of wiki to pursue harrassment of wiki editors off wiki? Whats the next step? FT2 knew all about the previous arbitration when he was an admin but I don't like to ask him now he's an arbitrator. He recused himself from this request for arbitration because of his involvement in the last one where he supported our claims that the 7 editors were all sockpuppets. I've mentioned Kingsleys post in the Request for clarification. Should I leave it to ArbCom or is it an admins matter?[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 21:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Have left quite a lengthy post on his talk page; seems to be a breakdown of trust between him and others, which can be very difficult (if not impossible) to repair. Will try to keep an eye out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Luna Santin

2008-04-02T07:42:06Z

Andochine: /* Can you check on something - weird */ welcome

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== a [[PageRank]] boost for [[Wikia]] ==

Hi. I saw your comments at [[Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction)#Relocating non-notable fictional material]] and would like to point out an issue; one I've raised before and gotten nowhere with. See these example links:
* http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate:Children_of_the_Gods
* [[wikia:Stargate:Children of the Gods]]
They both go to the same place; the first has a <tt>rel="[[nofollow]]"</tt> automatically added while the second does not. This gives [[Wikia]] a [[PageRank]] boost for every usage (and there are many thousands) of the interwiki form of link. I believe that this happens for other prefixes, too, but am not sure. This needs to be changed for the same reasons that the regular link has the nofollow inserted. This is a serious [[conflict of interest]] for the non-profit org vs the for-profit Wikia as the same god-king is involved. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 14:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

::Well, it gives anything on the [[m:Interwiki map]] a PageRank, in theory. I tried to let some people know about it as well, but I should probably have left a note on the meta talk page. I'll do that now. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 23:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That's an interesting point, and thanks to you both for pointing it out to me. I've been mulling it over a bit, not sure quite what to make of it. I tend to think interwiki links are handy, if we're regularly linking to a given site, but the nofollow issue may complicate that analysis (especially given possible conflicts of interest, if there's not a WMF-centric reason for their inclusion in the link list). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::::It should be a very easy fix, I'm just not sure who to tell this to. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 09:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== History merge... ==

Hey, when you merged the [[WP:SUICIDE]] articles, you didn't do a history merge. Might want to do that... 8-) [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] ([[User talk:Georgewilliamherbert|talk]]) 05:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, is that standard practice? I'd figured I shouldn't, in case somebody wanted to reverse the merge -- I did act unilaterally, after all, even if I waited a while. But I'm not feeling picky about it (if anybody wants to, feel free; if not, tell me I should). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 10:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Mmm, History merge is kinda hard to undo, and makes history navigation harder, I don't think we routinely perform these. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] [[User talk:Lucasbfr|talk]] 09:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Jamiechef2 ==

Hey - noticed you reverted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=197647790&oldid=197612380 this], thanks... can you check the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Jamiechef2Jamiechef2 rfcu page] and the couple things I've sent Alison [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alison#You_may_not_believe_this... since]? Nobody's gotten around to blocking this abuser since the CU was proven. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for prodding me about it. Any mentioned account is blocked (either already was or is now); they may be coming at us from a dynamic IP, so I've semi-protected both [[Hummus]] (two weeks) and [[Talk:Hummus]] (five hours). Anywhere else they're currently active? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::They hit [[Mujaddara]]... you might ask a checkuser to re-run the check, every time Alison runs it she finds 2-3 extra new socks popping up (see what I mean on the rfcu page linked above). It's a pain to fix made worse by users like Tiamut and Jd2718 who are likely not socks but tend to agree with Jamiechef2's POV-pushing. Also has been known to pop up on Za'atar and Falafel, though Falafel is protected right now already thanks to Tiamut going at it with Gilabrand. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Checked around once or twice, but haven't seen any more of them; if I'm just missing it, or if they come back, feel free to grab me or post to [[WP:AN/I]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User_talk:Wwwhatsup]] ==

Thanks for looking out. I've been a bit too busy to look after it myself these last few days. [[User:Wwwhatsup|Wwwhatsup]] ([[User talk:Wwwhatsup|talk]]) 09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sure thing. Feel free to let me know if you have any more problems in that area. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] ([[User talk:Toddst1|talk]]) 00:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Maybe DRINKING as little too much rum ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335]. LOL... Its all good. I could use a drink myself, now that you mention it... --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh, yeah, not sure where that one came from. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User:Christopher Mann McKay]] ==

I don't really object to this unblocking. Perhaps indef was too long but it seemed to me that having reached an impasse on [[WP:ANI]] over the use of that image, he was then upping the stakes by not only taunting [[User:Prester John]] (for whose stance I have equally little tolerance), but also adding an even more offensive caption to the original image. However, CMM seems to have realised that this sort of behaviour is not going to go down too well. Regards. --'''[[User:Rodhullandemu|'''Rodhullandemu''']]''' ([[User_talk:Rodhullandemu|Talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Cool beans. We'll see where this goes. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Hummus]]==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hummus&curid=75065&diff=198050939&oldid=197649541 I question this edit, which has removed etymological information] and strays from previous consensus not to include additional transliterations in the header. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Can you point me to this supposed "consensus"? I sure as heck [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hummus can't find one here]. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194144774&oldid=194144069][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194146837&oldid=194145440]. I'm neutral as to what additional transliterations might go into the header, but I question making this change again without any discussion. Moreover, you removed additional Arab language material without discussion. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::All well and good, but I'm not sure why this is on my talk page in particular. I was acting to stop some pretty clear harassment, and have no other involvement in the article itself. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Gwen's been on some kick to attack me all of a sudden, I'm not sure why. I especially wonder why she quotes a "consensus" based largely on massive sockpuppetry (tons of names, plus a lot of IPs on that page that match) by {{checkuser|Jamiechef2}}: stuff like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hummus&diff=prev&oldid=194144069 this]. Given that her own quotations on the page indicate that the etymological origin is un-knowable, I really don't understand why she chooses to attack me, unless there is something behind the scenes I'm unaware of. I'm also confused by discussions on her talk page in which she insinuates that the Jamiechef2 affair was a "false flag" attack. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 23:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I won't clutter up your talk page other than to say, the two diffs I provided above are not the edits of sockpuppets and I'm not attacking M1rth, I only questioned his sweeping edit to the lead of an article which has seen much edit warring and sockpuppetry. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 23:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Oh yes ==

[[Image:Three rums jvp.jpg|thumb|left|Mmmmmm RUM! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 23:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)]]
:Not to worry, there's a little [[Captain Morgan|admin]] in all of us. (bah, I'll be kicked out of this computer lab in a few minutes, classes and all that) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Haha. Funny. I have a pint of the ole' Cap'n and I was just mulling over a glass. Anyhow no vandal/troll slaying tool belt here, just the good old fighting tools. :P Great to talk to you again sir Santin! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335 Rum on the mind, Luna?] --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== problem with IP editor ==

Hi Luna - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luna_Santin&diff=prev&oldid=132506206 this person] seems to be back under his IP of {{user5|70.184.145.239}}, making the same incorrect edit of birthdate to [[Barbara Walters]] as done previously and doing the same on [[Michelle Stafford]]. Further, he blanked my talk page presumably in retaliation for my earlier reversion of same error, and another time replaced my talk with offensive language. I consider this harassment at this point - see contribution history. Can something be done about this? He has also edited as Cantwaitforit and Zachfins54. Thanks. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry for the delayed response; since they've clearly been at it for a while, now, and the IP doesn't appear to be shared and may have been used for abusive sockpuppetry on top of the visible problem edits, I've blocked all editing from that address for one year. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks - maybe he'll grow up. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Static school IP ==

*{{IPVandal|64.19.147.2‎}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 21:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Softblocked. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Cheers. Added the anon. block message to the Talk page. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 02:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Murphy==

I'm unfortunately turning into a bit of an admin pest here (not really my style!), posting first to [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#More_with_Don_Murphy|ANI]], then on LaraLove's talk page (she seems to have gone offline), and now to you. I'm a bit concerned over the situation over at [[Don Murphy]] given the past history of which you seem to be aware. See also [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:TheRealDonMurphy|this ANI thread]] for background. We have three new accounts (RTFA, Runabrat, and Curiosity Inc.) editing heavily at Murphy's article. Two of those strike me as obviously related (not too hard to tell which two) and it's possible that some or all of them are strongly pushing a POV and might be related to past banned accounts in some fashion (I'm still assuming good faith, but there's suspicious stuff there).

In any case, given the history I think admins or other higher-up types need to figure out what's going on with these accounts. After the last Don Murphy AfD I watchlisted the page specifically to be on the lookout for problems there (which I said I would do since I !voted to keep the article). I don't want some new big mess to crop up and I feel that someone who knows the background needs to take a look at this soon. Not trying to be overdramatic, just overcautious. Any thoughts about who to contact about this? I'm not an expert on this kind of situation and the ANI thread is not drawing much help, perhaps because not a lot of people understand what this is about (I don't even understand it all myself).

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'll check back here.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 02:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Will keep an eye out and contribute where I can. Worth keeping an eye on some of these new accounts, as long as we're careful about [[WP:BITE]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I think we should be a bit more pro-active given (from what I've heard at least) the supposed level of harassment that took place before. I'm a huge proponent of WP:BITE but I'd say the odds are 99 out of 100 that two of those accounts are related (the edit histories say it all) and this is not your typical situation. I have no idea who dealt with this before or how it was dealt with, my only objective in posting on ANI and contacting you was to make sure that ''whoever'' dealt with it in the past was aware of the situation. I don't know how to go about doing that, and that's all I really wanted help on.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Replied via email. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I'm not getting it so far, I think possibly because of a problem with Wiki e-mailing right now - I was not copied on an earlier message I sent out either. Probably just a delay.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Luna, this problem seems to have been partially dealt with (see ANI thread) but for whatever reason I did not receive your e-mail. If you happen to have a copy, would you mind forwarding it directly to my e-mail account? (I have a hotmail account, my Wiki user name is the first part of the address). If you don't have a copy then don't worry about it.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 15:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Shucks. I've resent, though now that Viridae's deleted the page it may be moot. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

== Can you check on something - weird ==
: You [[Jimbo cheated on his wife with the crazy bitch Rachel Marsden! He also co-founded Wikipedia with Larry Sanger! Angela Beesley was once a prostitute for Bomis.com, and Jimbo was her pimp! Jimbo also squirts his semen on a million other things!|deleted this page today]], and rightly so, but somehow it was on my watchlist after deletion. The only reason I can see that happening is that a page was moved to this title and then deleted. Can you check the deleted article's history and see if that is the case? I don't immediately notice any other article on my watchlist "missing", but I probably wouldn't notice it immediately. It's just really weird, and it doesn't make sense to me. Thanks for taking a look into it. ''''' • ''''' [[User:VigilancePrime|''''' VigilancePrime ''''']][[User talk:VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[Special:Contributions/VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[User:VigilancePrime/WikiEssays/WikiCFUCK[[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine|talk]]) 07:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)a|''''' • ''''']]''05:24 (UTC) 17 Mar '08''
::Huh. Pagemove vandalism, obviously. :) Only one deleted edit, when I moved it back home, but for whatever reason the summary only says "Moved ''foo'' to" (it cuts off). Might have hit the length limit? Unless some more complicated database issue is going on. I haven't fiddled with the ins and outs of moves vs. watchlists, too much, so I dunno if this is normal behavior. – Welcome, please don't call any of my posts abhorrent again.'08''

== Update static school ip block==

Hi Luna.

You helped me about a year ago with a block on an ip address range. We've since switched to a new five year agreement with a new ISP and have new ip addresses. I was hoping you could change the block for us.

The old addresses included 209.7.28.226-209.7.28.254.
The new addresses include 75.145.173.121-75.145.173.125.

If you need any more information from me, please feel free to contact me. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Imsaguy|Imsaguy]] ([[User talk:Imsaguy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Imsaguy|contribs]]) 15:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC) 

== IP vandal ==

Hey, can you help me with something? I caught a vandalism IP making disruptive edits today, so I reported it to AIV. The report was up at AIV for 30 minutes, and it was completely ignored by the admins patrolling AIV at the time.
The only possible explanation I can think of is that the admin(s) in question were hesitant to block the IP, but that's not reasonable. It's just off a block and has the "Further abuse from this IP may result in an extended block..." message on its talk page. Please take a look.

{{IPVandal|63.3.18.130}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 23:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Vandals ==

Thanks for taking care of the vandals. I was wondering, though, isn't it customary to put a notice on the user page or user talk page that the user has been indefinitely blocked? I had to check the block log for both users to see how they've been blocked. —[[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 03:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=199265269 reported] the toad for vandalizing Erik's page. Clearly, it's diaper-wearer who's unafraid to sock. Can we send him on his merry, little way? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:But you got it right away. Does it have to cycle through before it shows as indef ban? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Some admins do leave block notices; I tend not to, in cases of simple vandalism -- they're not going to have any trouble understanding why they're blocked, I suspect, and further communication may only encourage them. I've made some more lengthy replies at [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_26#lack_of_blocked_templates_on_user_talk_pages]] or [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_25#Luna]]. :) If this particular vandal comes back, feel free to let me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Smart money says they will be back, since a community ban takes too much time to permanently scrub the person's icky away. - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 06:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Insufficient block for 117.18.81.2==
You blocked [[User:117.18.81.2]] for just 48 hours despite two previous longer blocks and huge number of pages being vandalised today just after the last block was released. I think a much longer block is justified. --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, I just discovered this IP is a school, so a schoolblock is justified --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. :) I did find a good edit or two mixed in with the chaff, which makes me hesitate to give it a really long block -- if a shared IP is all bad edits for quite some time, I tend to block for a good while. Will be happy to revisit if it keeps being problematic without any apparent good users, or if consensus determines a longer block is appropriate. Think that covers your concerns? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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:Good to see you're still about. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Same here. I saw that you beat me to reverting vandalism. And today is my first edit anniversary, as seen in my userpage. [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 22:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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== Thanks from APK ==

Thank you for the common sense judgment in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:User235&diff=199507364&oldid=199506999 unblock request review]. [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|AgnosticPreachersKid]] ([[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|talk]]) 02:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be a little help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== ANI ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=199529531&oldid=199529489] You just beat me to it. :P [[User:Tiptoety|Tiptoety]] [[User talk:Tiptoety|talk]] 05:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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:Heh, thank you both! :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[Natalie Gauci]] ==

Can you please consider unprotecting the page? There has been relatively little discussion about the disputes so far, thus I think its safe to say that edit-warring isn't likely to happen at an alarming rate, and things won't be as bad as before. Thanks. [[User:RaNdOm26|RaNdOm26]] ([[User talk:RaNdOm26|talk]]) 09:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Was about to say it's not protected, anymore, but see you got [[User:Gb|Gb]] to have a look. Cheers! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== thanks ==

your gallant help is very appreciated. [[User:Sssoul|Sssoul]] ([[User talk:Sssoul|talk]]) 15:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be of service. Feel free to let me know if you need any further input. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== IP block ==

[[Special:BlockIP/76.76.5.103|This]] may well be an open proxy. Came across it on Commons & via CU as well, cheers --[[User:Herbythyme|Herby]] [[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]] 20:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Gotcha, thanks for letting me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you. ==

I know I am argumentative, and not the easiest to handle. But I just want to thank you for what you said. Figured I'd say it before i got blocked. [[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 10:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== someone needs to make me seriously ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ani#Igniateff_is_Joshuarooney
[[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 12:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:I do take the accusation seriously, but at this precise moment I think it's most productive if everybody takes a breather. Calmer people make better decisions. Hope you understand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 12:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

==Removal of edit==
Hi. I'd be interested to know why you removed this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=next&oldid=200048665] from KingsleyMillers talkpage. Is it just because it contains personal attacks or is it because it was from an IP number? This IP number is in fact [[User:KingsleyMiller]] who quite often forgets to sign himself in but does not appear to be pretending to be anyone else, and this post is part of his ongoing campaign against me and [[User:Jean Mercer]] in relation to a ''riveting'' subject called [[maternal deprivation]].[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 14:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:An apparently "new" user who shows up and immediately starts rapidly spamming such messages looks suspicious; usually it's somebody evading a block or ban that does that, but at the very least it seems questionable under [[WP:CANVAS]] and possibly [[WP:HARASS]]. Now that I know a bit more, their discussion style seems a bit more abrasive than we're generally used to, but not to abrasive that dealing/discussing with them is impossible. I can maybe try to keep an eye on it, but hesitate to do anything myself at the moment. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Kip Miller has been around for a while and this style is pretty par for the course for him but he's not up to speed with policies. I'm not sure he's aware you've removed this particular post. I haven't asked anybody to do anything about his behaviour because he doesn't actually edit war in the articles but it is beginning to get a bit beyond a joke. [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 09:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, looks like somebody who manages to be abrasive without doing too many of the things that are "hot buttons" to get admin attention. If it's a problem, you might try an [[WP:RFC|RfC]] on user conduct; if not, it looks like you're managing okay so far. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for reverting the Vandalism on My talk page. '''[[user:thedjatclubrock|Thedjatclubrock :-)]]''' '''([[user_talk:thedjatclubrock|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Thedjatclubrock|C]])''' 03:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deleted article - H.A.G.G.E.R.?????? ==

I noticed that you deleted the bogus article "H.A.G.G.E.R.??????" recently.

The only reason I know this is because it was on my Watchlist. The thing is, I didn't put it there!

Are vandals able to edit user's Watchlists as well as vandalising articles? Just curious to know. [[User:Ozzieboy|Ozzieboy]] ([[User talk:Ozzieboy|talk]]) 19:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:The page was a target of pagemove vandalism, unfortunately (similar to [[#Can you check on something - weird]] above). Depending on what date it was moved and what you had/have on your watchlist, the article was either [[Zacarias Moussaoui]], [[The Economist]], or [[The Simpsons]]. Generally a watchlist entry will change when a page is moved, but I'm actually not totally sure what happens when it's moved ''back''. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sweet ==

Thanks for the protection on [[Maddox (writer)|Maddox]]. People keep trying to vandalize the page and it's driving me crazy! [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 23:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, hopefully things settle down a bit. Though given his particular place in net culture, we'll have to see. Will try to check back, but feel free to send me a message if things get out of hand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I will. You're right, though. Based on his popularity and who his fanbvase consists of, I don't see the vandalism ever truly going away. [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 22:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Kristy22 at [[WP:AN/I]] ==

Thank you. I was wondering what was going to be done with that entry. ... [[User:discospinster|'''disco''''''''spinster''''']] [[User talk:discospinster|'''talk''']] 01:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Epic Win Award! ==

[[Image:Face-grin.svg|128px|right]]
For [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABrandon%27s_a_Gaylord&diff=200753546&oldid=200751718 this]. No further comment necessary. <tt>:D</tt> Epic cheers, [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|'''13''']] 11:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh. :) Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 20:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

::I also find those kind of responses very funny. Keep it short and snappy. When a vandal calls everyone Nazis, just say "OK", or something to that effect. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 20:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hi LS, Just saw your protection of DS's page. Could you take a look at and consider semi-protection for all of his pages as per my request at WP:RfPP ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#User:David_Shankbone_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 here])? Thanks, [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd go ahead and semi his front page, but that's already done. I typically semi anything in userspace on good-faith request from the associated user. Granted he says he's on vacation, now. Got to get off to class, but if vandalism continues or I hear from David I'll look into it. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, and I've sent an email to DS. [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Just got back online. Was planning to ask DS, as well, though it's probably moot, now, since Maxim's gone ahead and protected. No skin off my nose. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Beautiful Formosa ==

*{{user3|Beautiful Formosa}}
This user has been editing disruptively. Having been warned numerous time by me, he/she seems to be ignoring the edit summaries of my reverts, and sometimes does not even leave any edit summaries while making unilateral moves and edits. He/She has also been adding unsourced contents to biographies of living people. Almost all of the edits are Taiwan-related and controversial. Please see his/her contributions for reference and take action (perhaps a short block). Thank you.--[[User:Jerrch|Jerrch]] 22:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Block of 124.180.116.122 ==

Thanks for blocking [[User:124.180.116.122]]; someone using this IP address has placed a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=200958736&oldid=200957528 bad faith report] on [[WP:AIV]] against me. Could you also protect [[User talk:124.180.116.122]] to prevent continued nonsense on the IP talk page? [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 02:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Besuto ==

He's a user requesting unblock, claiming one of your autoblocks got him. Can you take a look? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:Seems to be the same user as is currently blocked on the IP; was editing anon, and got into a bit of a spat, looks like. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist|''Signpost'' spamlist]]. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. [[User:Ralbot|Ralbot]] ([[User talk:Ralbot|talk]]) 07:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Whoops! ==

It looks like we both tried to use rollback on the Hogwarts article at the same time and our edits crashed and burned! Sorry about that! --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 05:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. :) I realized a bit after hitting rollback that I should have been reverting to an earlier version, too, heh. Tcncv seems to have gotten it for the both of us. Always glad to see people helping out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 05:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Babyboywhiner ==

I wouldn't recommend unblocking this editor, as it appears to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_A&diff=prev&oldid=199803493 another sock of JJonz]. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah. Didn't have much idea who it was, but seemed pretty evident they weren't up to anything good. Thanks for the heads-up. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::I really feel sorry for [[User:David A]], since he has become the main target of this vandal. Think there is anything that can be done? Perhaps semi-protecing his user pages? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I could, although the user/user talk pages don't seem to be primary targets at the moment. =\ Depending on how active these socks are being, it may be worth asking [[WP:RFCU|checkusers]] to find sleeper accounts and/or block underlying IP addresses; semi-protection on repeat targets is likewise an option. I'm not sure how best to proceed, just yet, without seeing more of these socks in action. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for removing the block, I was wondering if there was any way that you can block all account creations from my I.P address (don’t block my account though). I wont want to start another account so that should be fine, because these types of incidents isn’t so good for my reputation (sharing an ip with a vandal) and I really don’t want it to happen again as it is a big time-waster. [[User:Fattyjwoods|Fattyjwoods]] ([[User talk:Fattyjwoods|Push my button]]) 04:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:If it continues to be an issue, I suppose we could see about it. Looks like it miiiight be dynamic? Wouldn't worry too much, though -- we used to have endemic problems with all of Singapore getting blocked accidentally, and as much of a hassle as it was, we managed. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Seeing from your user contribution you've done quite a bit of anti-vandal work....
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:Why, thanks. :) We all do our parts, I figure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Socks ==

[[User:Mohun]] might well be another sock of DWhiskaZ. Contributions suggest it. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Islam&diff=prev&oldid=201907426 here]. [[User:Relata refero|Relata refero]] ([[User talk:Relata refero|talk]]) 09:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:I echo the same feeling; not sure if it's conclusive, yet, I'll poke around for second/third opinions and wait for more activity. I won't take any offense if you run this past someone else, in the meantime, of course. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for reverting vandalsim in my user page. [[User:Tanvir che|Tanvir che]] ([[User talk:Tanvir che|talk]]) 09:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thankyou ==

Thankyou for your help. It really helps. I hope the page explains it well. [[User:Chubbennaitor/Main Menu|'''Chubb''']][[User talk:Chubbennaitor|'''enna''']][[User:Chubbennaitor/Guestbook|''itor'']] 11:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[WP:RFCU/CN]] ==

Luna, just an FYI that I've responded to your post at [[WP:RFCU/CN#Folding]]. Would it be more suitable to simply be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and merge the pages? Just a thought, but it'd allow us to get it over and done with, rather than all this discussion, and get on with other things :) Thoughts? [[User:AGK|'''Anthøny''']] 11:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Global warming]]==
As you were reverting Ross's latest, I was typing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARossnixon&diff=202196396&oldid=197620900 this]. Just a heads-up. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] ([[User talk:Raymond arritt|talk]]) 01:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for keeping me up to speed. Guess I'll check back at some point in the future. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Respond to Luna Santin ==

No problem, I guess you were using a tool like [[WP:AVT]]? I pasted the working copy of the text I had and appended it to the existing text instead of replacing, by mistake. [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 01:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:That's the gist of it, yeah. :) Glad it's sorted, anyway. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Smile Time! ==

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WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! ''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''
</div> -[[user:WarthogDemon|'''Warthog''']][[User_talk:WarthogDemon|'''Demon''']] 02:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status ==

I am currently improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status, and noticed that you made substantial contributions to the article recently. If you have time, please help out in improving the article to Featured Article status. Thanks! [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 02:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Abusing page protection ==

Please don't abuse page protection. The discussions on the talk page, at the very least, were not all concluded. Blanking the closing statement itself is just stupid, as it contained nothing necessarily negative about anyone, and was calmly worded. This is just absentminded protection, and is not supported by the protection policy. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:The talk page didn't look very active, with no relevant edits in the past five days -- a more central forum may be more appropriate to continue the line of talk, anyway. Perhaps I'm acting a bit hastily, but ''if'' the matter is closed there are good reasons to blank the page. I see you're in ongoing discussion with Prodego, regarding said closure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I just have a bad taste in my mouth about this whole thing. Protection at this point is a trivial matter, and there's no need for me to be upset about it. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::No need to apologize. You've done nothing wrong that I can see, and I sympathize with your position (which I hope is a small consolation, at least). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Jeff Hardy dead ==

I didn't make it up, i seen it when i google searched a whole bunch of wrestling websites

not only that im sure that something was on myspace

just google search like i did —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thewwegod1|Thewwegod1]] ([[User talk:Thewwegod1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thewwegod1|contribs]]) 06:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 

== [[User talk:124.176.154.181]] ==

They requested an unblock. [[User:MaxSem|Max''S''em]]([[User talk:MaxSem|Han shot first!]]) 08:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:They were trolling off-site, bragging about how they'd vandalized and wouldn't be caught. Given prior interaction, I see no reason to unblock or believe a word they're saying (notice how they're predisposed to believe they're blocked for vandalism, without being told as much?)... but if others disagree, and somebody's willing to, I won't get in the way of an unblock. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== FAR nomination ==

[[Ku Klux Klan]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|featured article review]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|here]]. Reviewers' concerns are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/{{#if:|{{{2}}}|Ku Klux Klan}}|here]]. [[User:Orangemarlin|'''Orange''''''Marlin''']] [[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]] 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
==Communism==

Please give a valuable reason to you removed the AFD on communism. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:In all frankness, there's not a chance in hell a core topic article will be deleted -- that doesn't mean you can't work on it, in fact you're more than welcome to. If you'd rather start with a blank slate, starting a sandbox in your userspace is one option. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==[[Communism]] ==
[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|30px|]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]{{#if:| according to the reverts you have made on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. If you continue, '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. If necessary, pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. Please keep cool and ask me any questions if need be. Peace. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}} [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== User:Rahulkavalapara ==

Hi, Luna. I sure hope you're still online! We have what may be a returning vandal at [[User:Rahulkavalapara]] whose very first edit was a beautifully formatted...copyvio. Both he and his IP are removing the deletion notices; I also suspect the IP is an open proxy. Thanks for looking into this for me. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Around, but barely. ;) Deleted the page, will watch for more from {{user|24.119.165.139]] or {{user|Rahulkavalapara}}. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

*Likewise. Heading off to stare at the backs of my eyelids. Thanks for all you do. You are truly an asset to this site. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! ''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''
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::I'm generally terrible at accepting compliments, so... well, thanks. :) We all do our part, I hope. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 19:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Quit being so gosh darn modest Luney Rum. You are as the kids say "the shit" and you rock. Now drink your rum like a good boy. [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 01:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::{{tl|fact}}, {{tl|fact}}, and yessir, with coke on the rocks. ;) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

==Maternal deprivation==
Actually Luna it is now getting out of hand. KingsleyMiller applied for arbitration which was turned down.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration] He appealed - which was simply removed, and now has appealed again by way of a request for clarification.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Request__for_clarification_-_Request_for_appeal_-_Wikipedia_Sexist_Editing_in_Child_Psychology] All that is fine - except for this on the bottom of the talkpage. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=prev&oldid=202623551] This seems to me a serious matter. The only arbitration JeanMercer and I have been involved in is with a sockpuppeteer (DPeterson was his most common name )who ran about 7 puppets to "own" all the attachment pages. He has been involved with real world disputes with JeanMercer before (in scientific papers) and his last entity, after the other 6 or 7 puppets were banned, was indef banned for breach of his sockpuppet ban which he did to harrass JeanMercer. The only other candidate for these '2 editors' is permabanned longtermabuser HeadleyDown. There was some evidence that he got in contact with the sockmaster during the last arbitration as well. Where do I make a formal complaint about this use of wiki to pursue harrassment of wiki editors off wiki? Whats the next step? FT2 knew all about the previous arbitration when he was an admin but I don't like to ask him now he's an arbitrator. He recused himself from this request for arbitration because of his involvement in the last one where he supported our claims that the 7 editors were all sockpuppets. I've mentioned Kingsleys post in the Request for clarification. Should I leave it to ArbCom or is it an admins matter?[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 21:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Have left quite a lengthy post on his talk page; seems to be a breakdown of trust between him and others, which can be very difficult (if not impossible) to repair. Will try to keep an eye out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Luna Santin

2008-04-02T07:41:44Z

Andochine: /* Can you check on something - weird */ Revertingvandalism

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== a [[PageRank]] boost for [[Wikia]] ==

Hi. I saw your comments at [[Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction)#Relocating non-notable fictional material]] and would like to point out an issue; one I've raised before and gotten nowhere with. See these example links:
* http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate:Children_of_the_Gods
* [[wikia:Stargate:Children of the Gods]]
They both go to the same place; the first has a <tt>rel="[[nofollow]]"</tt> automatically added while the second does not. This gives [[Wikia]] a [[PageRank]] boost for every usage (and there are many thousands) of the interwiki form of link. I believe that this happens for other prefixes, too, but am not sure. This needs to be changed for the same reasons that the regular link has the nofollow inserted. This is a serious [[conflict of interest]] for the non-profit org vs the for-profit Wikia as the same god-king is involved. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 14:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

::Well, it gives anything on the [[m:Interwiki map]] a PageRank, in theory. I tried to let some people know about it as well, but I should probably have left a note on the meta talk page. I'll do that now. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 23:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That's an interesting point, and thanks to you both for pointing it out to me. I've been mulling it over a bit, not sure quite what to make of it. I tend to think interwiki links are handy, if we're regularly linking to a given site, but the nofollow issue may complicate that analysis (especially given possible conflicts of interest, if there's not a WMF-centric reason for their inclusion in the link list). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::::It should be a very easy fix, I'm just not sure who to tell this to. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 09:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== History merge... ==

Hey, when you merged the [[WP:SUICIDE]] articles, you didn't do a history merge. Might want to do that... 8-) [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] ([[User talk:Georgewilliamherbert|talk]]) 05:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, is that standard practice? I'd figured I shouldn't, in case somebody wanted to reverse the merge -- I did act unilaterally, after all, even if I waited a while. But I'm not feeling picky about it (if anybody wants to, feel free; if not, tell me I should). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 10:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Mmm, History merge is kinda hard to undo, and makes history navigation harder, I don't think we routinely perform these. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] [[User talk:Lucasbfr|talk]] 09:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Jamiechef2 ==

Hey - noticed you reverted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=197647790&oldid=197612380 this], thanks... can you check the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Jamiechef2Jamiechef2 rfcu page] and the couple things I've sent Alison [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alison#You_may_not_believe_this... since]? Nobody's gotten around to blocking this abuser since the CU was proven. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for prodding me about it. Any mentioned account is blocked (either already was or is now); they may be coming at us from a dynamic IP, so I've semi-protected both [[Hummus]] (two weeks) and [[Talk:Hummus]] (five hours). Anywhere else they're currently active? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::They hit [[Mujaddara]]... you might ask a checkuser to re-run the check, every time Alison runs it she finds 2-3 extra new socks popping up (see what I mean on the rfcu page linked above). It's a pain to fix made worse by users like Tiamut and Jd2718 who are likely not socks but tend to agree with Jamiechef2's POV-pushing. Also has been known to pop up on Za'atar and Falafel, though Falafel is protected right now already thanks to Tiamut going at it with Gilabrand. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 04:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Checked around once or twice, but haven't seen any more of them; if I'm just missing it, or if they come back, feel free to grab me or post to [[WP:AN/I]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User_talk:Wwwhatsup]] ==

Thanks for looking out. I've been a bit too busy to look after it myself these last few days. [[User:Wwwhatsup|Wwwhatsup]] ([[User talk:Wwwhatsup|talk]]) 09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sure thing. Feel free to let me know if you have any more problems in that area. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] ([[User talk:Toddst1|talk]]) 00:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Maybe DRINKING as little too much rum ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335]. LOL... Its all good. I could use a drink myself, now that you mention it... --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh, yeah, not sure where that one came from. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[User:Christopher Mann McKay]] ==

I don't really object to this unblocking. Perhaps indef was too long but it seemed to me that having reached an impasse on [[WP:ANI]] over the use of that image, he was then upping the stakes by not only taunting [[User:Prester John]] (for whose stance I have equally little tolerance), but also adding an even more offensive caption to the original image. However, CMM seems to have realised that this sort of behaviour is not going to go down too well. Regards. --'''[[User:Rodhullandemu|'''Rodhullandemu''']]''' ([[User_talk:Rodhullandemu|Talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Cool beans. We'll see where this goes. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Hummus]]==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hummus&curid=75065&diff=198050939&oldid=197649541 I question this edit, which has removed etymological information] and strays from previous consensus not to include additional transliterations in the header. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Can you point me to this supposed "consensus"? I sure as heck [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hummus can't find one here]. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194144774&oldid=194144069][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHummus&diff=194146837&oldid=194145440]. I'm neutral as to what additional transliterations might go into the header, but I question making this change again without any discussion. Moreover, you removed additional Arab language material without discussion. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 21:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::All well and good, but I'm not sure why this is on my talk page in particular. I was acting to stop some pretty clear harassment, and have no other involvement in the article itself. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Gwen's been on some kick to attack me all of a sudden, I'm not sure why. I especially wonder why she quotes a "consensus" based largely on massive sockpuppetry (tons of names, plus a lot of IPs on that page that match) by {{checkuser|Jamiechef2}}: stuff like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hummus&diff=prev&oldid=194144069 this]. Given that her own quotations on the page indicate that the etymological origin is un-knowable, I really don't understand why she chooses to attack me, unless there is something behind the scenes I'm unaware of. I'm also confused by discussions on her talk page in which she insinuates that the Jamiechef2 affair was a "false flag" attack. [[User:M1rth|M1rth]] ([[User talk:M1rth|talk]]) 23:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I won't clutter up your talk page other than to say, the two diffs I provided above are not the edits of sockpuppets and I'm not attacking M1rth, I only questioned his sweeping edit to the lead of an article which has seen much edit warring and sockpuppetry. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 23:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Oh yes ==

[[Image:Three rums jvp.jpg|thumb|left|Mmmmmm RUM! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 23:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)]]
:Not to worry, there's a little [[Captain Morgan|admin]] in all of us. (bah, I'll be kicked out of this computer lab in a few minutes, classes and all that) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Haha. Funny. I have a pint of the ole' Cap'n and I was just mulling over a glass. Anyhow no vandal/troll slaying tool belt here, just the good old fighting tools. :P Great to talk to you again sir Santin! [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Another_Four_Plasmids&curid=13611506&diff=197890052&oldid=197889335 Rum on the mind, Luna?] --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|contribs]] 04:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== problem with IP editor ==

Hi Luna - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Luna_Santin&diff=prev&oldid=132506206 this person] seems to be back under his IP of {{user5|70.184.145.239}}, making the same incorrect edit of birthdate to [[Barbara Walters]] as done previously and doing the same on [[Michelle Stafford]]. Further, he blanked my talk page presumably in retaliation for my earlier reversion of same error, and another time replaced my talk with offensive language. I consider this harassment at this point - see contribution history. Can something be done about this? He has also edited as Cantwaitforit and Zachfins54. Thanks. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry for the delayed response; since they've clearly been at it for a while, now, and the IP doesn't appear to be shared and may have been used for abusive sockpuppetry on top of the visible problem edits, I've blocked all editing from that address for one year. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks - maybe he'll grow up. [[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] |[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]] 04:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Static school IP ==

*{{IPVandal|64.19.147.2‎}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 21:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::Softblocked. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 23:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Cheers. Added the anon. block message to the Talk page. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 02:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Murphy==

I'm unfortunately turning into a bit of an admin pest here (not really my style!), posting first to [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#More_with_Don_Murphy|ANI]], then on LaraLove's talk page (she seems to have gone offline), and now to you. I'm a bit concerned over the situation over at [[Don Murphy]] given the past history of which you seem to be aware. See also [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:TheRealDonMurphy|this ANI thread]] for background. We have three new accounts (RTFA, Runabrat, and Curiosity Inc.) editing heavily at Murphy's article. Two of those strike me as obviously related (not too hard to tell which two) and it's possible that some or all of them are strongly pushing a POV and might be related to past banned accounts in some fashion (I'm still assuming good faith, but there's suspicious stuff there).

In any case, given the history I think admins or other higher-up types need to figure out what's going on with these accounts. After the last Don Murphy AfD I watchlisted the page specifically to be on the lookout for problems there (which I said I would do since I !voted to keep the article). I don't want some new big mess to crop up and I feel that someone who knows the background needs to take a look at this soon. Not trying to be overdramatic, just overcautious. Any thoughts about who to contact about this? I'm not an expert on this kind of situation and the ANI thread is not drawing much help, perhaps because not a lot of people understand what this is about (I don't even understand it all myself).

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'll check back here.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 02:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Will keep an eye out and contribute where I can. Worth keeping an eye on some of these new accounts, as long as we're careful about [[WP:BITE]]. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I think we should be a bit more pro-active given (from what I've heard at least) the supposed level of harassment that took place before. I'm a huge proponent of WP:BITE but I'd say the odds are 99 out of 100 that two of those accounts are related (the edit histories say it all) and this is not your typical situation. I have no idea who dealt with this before or how it was dealt with, my only objective in posting on ANI and contacting you was to make sure that ''whoever'' dealt with it in the past was aware of the situation. I don't know how to go about doing that, and that's all I really wanted help on.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Replied via email. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I'm not getting it so far, I think possibly because of a problem with Wiki e-mailing right now - I was not copied on an earlier message I sent out either. Probably just a delay.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 04:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Luna, this problem seems to have been partially dealt with (see ANI thread) but for whatever reason I did not receive your e-mail. If you happen to have a copy, would you mind forwarding it directly to my e-mail account? (I have a hotmail account, my Wiki user name is the first part of the address). If you don't have a copy then don't worry about it.--[[User:Bigtimepeace|Bigtimepeace]] | [[User_talk:Bigtimepeace|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bigtimepeace|contribs]] 15:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Shucks. I've resent, though now that Viridae's deleted the page it may be moot. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

== Can you check on something - weird ==
: You [[Jimbo cheated on his wife with the crazy bitch Rachel Marsden! He also co-founded Wikipedia with Larry Sanger! Angela Beesley was once a prostitute for Bomis.com, and Jimbo was her pimp! Jimbo also squirts his semen on a million other things!|deleted this page today]], and rightly so, but somehow it was on my watchlist after deletion. The only reason I can see that happening is that a page was moved to this title and then deleted. Can you check the deleted article's history and see if that is the case? I don't immediately notice any other article on my watchlist "missing", but I probably wouldn't notice it immediately. It's just really weird, and it doesn't make sense to me. Thanks for taking a look into it. ''''' • ''''' [[User:VigilancePrime|''''' VigilancePrime ''''']][[User talk:VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[Special:Contributions/VigilancePrime|''''' • ''''']][[User:VigilancePrime/WikiEssays/WikiCapybara|''''' • ''''']]''05:24 (UTC) 17 Mar '08''
::Huh. Pagemove vandalism, obviously. :) Only one deleted edit, when I moved it back home, but for whatever reason the summary only says "Moved ''foo'' to" (it cuts off). Might have hit the length limit? Unless some more complicated database issue is going on. I haven't fiddled with the ins and outs of moves vs. watchlists, too much, so I dunno if this is normal behavior. – Welcome, please don't call any of my posts abhorrent again.'08''

== Update static school ip block==

Hi Luna.

You helped me about a year ago with a block on an ip address range. We've since switched to a new five year agreement with a new ISP and have new ip addresses. I was hoping you could change the block for us.

The old addresses included 209.7.28.226-209.7.28.254.
The new addresses include 75.145.173.121-75.145.173.125.

If you need any more information from me, please feel free to contact me. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Imsaguy|Imsaguy]] ([[User talk:Imsaguy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Imsaguy|contribs]]) 15:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC) 

== IP vandal ==

Hey, can you help me with something? I caught a vandalism IP making disruptive edits today, so I reported it to AIV. The report was up at AIV for 30 minutes, and it was completely ignored by the admins patrolling AIV at the time.
The only possible explanation I can think of is that the admin(s) in question were hesitant to block the IP, but that's not reasonable. It's just off a block and has the "Further abuse from this IP may result in an extended block..." message on its talk page. Please take a look.

{{IPVandal|63.3.18.130}} '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 23:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Vandals ==

Thanks for taking care of the vandals. I was wondering, though, isn't it customary to put a notice on the user page or user talk page that the user has been indefinitely blocked? I had to check the block log for both users to see how they've been blocked. —[[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 03:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=199265269 reported] the toad for vandalizing Erik's page. Clearly, it's diaper-wearer who's unafraid to sock. Can we send him on his merry, little way? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:But you got it right away. Does it have to cycle through before it shows as indef ban? - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 03:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Some admins do leave block notices; I tend not to, in cases of simple vandalism -- they're not going to have any trouble understanding why they're blocked, I suspect, and further communication may only encourage them. I've made some more lengthy replies at [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_26#lack_of_blocked_templates_on_user_talk_pages]] or [[User_talk:Luna_Santin/Archive_25#Luna]]. :) If this particular vandal comes back, feel free to let me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Smart money says they will be back, since a community ban takes too much time to permanently scrub the person's icky away. - [[User:Arcayne|'''Arcayne''']] [[User talk:Arcayne|('''cast a spell''')]] 06:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Insufficient block for 117.18.81.2==
You blocked [[User:117.18.81.2]] for just 48 hours despite two previous longer blocks and huge number of pages being vandalised today just after the last block was released. I think a much longer block is justified. --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, I just discovered this IP is a school, so a schoolblock is justified --[[User:TimTay|TimTay]] ([[User talk:TimTay|talk]]) 22:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. :) I did find a good edit or two mixed in with the chaff, which makes me hesitate to give it a really long block -- if a shared IP is all bad edits for quite some time, I tend to block for a good while. Will be happy to revisit if it keeps being problematic without any apparent good users, or if consensus determines a longer block is appropriate. Think that covers your concerns? – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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:Good to see you're still about. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::Same here. I saw that you beat me to reverting vandalism. And today is my first edit anniversary, as seen in my userpage. [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 22:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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== Thanks from APK ==

Thank you for the common sense judgment in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:User235&diff=199507364&oldid=199506999 unblock request review]. [[User:AgnosticPreachersKid|AgnosticPreachersKid]] ([[User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid|talk]]) 02:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be a little help. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== ANI ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=199529531&oldid=199529489] You just beat me to it. :P [[User:Tiptoety|Tiptoety]] [[User talk:Tiptoety|talk]] 05:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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:Heh, thank you both! :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[Natalie Gauci]] ==

Can you please consider unprotecting the page? There has been relatively little discussion about the disputes so far, thus I think its safe to say that edit-warring isn't likely to happen at an alarming rate, and things won't be as bad as before. Thanks. [[User:RaNdOm26|RaNdOm26]] ([[User talk:RaNdOm26|talk]]) 09:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Was about to say it's not protected, anymore, but see you got [[User:Gb|Gb]] to have a look. Cheers! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== thanks ==

your gallant help is very appreciated. [[User:Sssoul|Sssoul]] ([[User talk:Sssoul|talk]]) 15:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Glad to be of service. Feel free to let me know if you need any further input. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== IP block ==

[[Special:BlockIP/76.76.5.103|This]] may well be an open proxy. Came across it on Commons & via CU as well, cheers --[[User:Herbythyme|Herby]] [[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]] 20:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Gotcha, thanks for letting me know. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you. ==

I know I am argumentative, and not the easiest to handle. But I just want to thank you for what you said. Figured I'd say it before i got blocked. [[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 10:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== someone needs to make me seriously ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ani#Igniateff_is_Joshuarooney
[[User:ShieldDane|ShieldDane]] ([[User talk:ShieldDane|talk]]) 12:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:I do take the accusation seriously, but at this precise moment I think it's most productive if everybody takes a breather. Calmer people make better decisions. Hope you understand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 12:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

==Removal of edit==
Hi. I'd be interested to know why you removed this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=next&oldid=200048665] from KingsleyMillers talkpage. Is it just because it contains personal attacks or is it because it was from an IP number? This IP number is in fact [[User:KingsleyMiller]] who quite often forgets to sign himself in but does not appear to be pretending to be anyone else, and this post is part of his ongoing campaign against me and [[User:Jean Mercer]] in relation to a ''riveting'' subject called [[maternal deprivation]].[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 14:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:An apparently "new" user who shows up and immediately starts rapidly spamming such messages looks suspicious; usually it's somebody evading a block or ban that does that, but at the very least it seems questionable under [[WP:CANVAS]] and possibly [[WP:HARASS]]. Now that I know a bit more, their discussion style seems a bit more abrasive than we're generally used to, but not to abrasive that dealing/discussing with them is impossible. I can maybe try to keep an eye on it, but hesitate to do anything myself at the moment. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Kip Miller has been around for a while and this style is pretty par for the course for him but he's not up to speed with policies. I'm not sure he's aware you've removed this particular post. I haven't asked anybody to do anything about his behaviour because he doesn't actually edit war in the articles but it is beginning to get a bit beyond a joke. [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 09:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, looks like somebody who manages to be abrasive without doing too many of the things that are "hot buttons" to get admin attention. If it's a problem, you might try an [[WP:RFC|RfC]] on user conduct; if not, it looks like you're managing okay so far. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for reverting the Vandalism on My talk page. '''[[user:thedjatclubrock|Thedjatclubrock :-)]]''' '''([[user_talk:thedjatclubrock|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Thedjatclubrock|C]])''' 03:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deleted article - H.A.G.G.E.R.?????? ==

I noticed that you deleted the bogus article "H.A.G.G.E.R.??????" recently.

The only reason I know this is because it was on my Watchlist. The thing is, I didn't put it there!

Are vandals able to edit user's Watchlists as well as vandalising articles? Just curious to know. [[User:Ozzieboy|Ozzieboy]] ([[User talk:Ozzieboy|talk]]) 19:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:The page was a target of pagemove vandalism, unfortunately (similar to [[#Can you check on something - weird]] above). Depending on what date it was moved and what you had/have on your watchlist, the article was either [[Zacarias Moussaoui]], [[The Economist]], or [[The Simpsons]]. Generally a watchlist entry will change when a page is moved, but I'm actually not totally sure what happens when it's moved ''back''. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sweet ==

Thanks for the protection on [[Maddox (writer)|Maddox]]. People keep trying to vandalize the page and it's driving me crazy! [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 23:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, hopefully things settle down a bit. Though given his particular place in net culture, we'll have to see. Will try to check back, but feel free to send me a message if things get out of hand. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I will. You're right, though. Based on his popularity and who his fanbvase consists of, I don't see the vandalism ever truly going away. [[User:Navnløs|Blizzard Beast]] [[User talk:Navnløs|$ODIN$]] 22:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Kristy22 at [[WP:AN/I]] ==

Thank you. I was wondering what was going to be done with that entry. ... [[User:discospinster|'''disco''''''''spinster''''']] [[User talk:discospinster|'''talk''']] 01:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Epic Win Award! ==

[[Image:Face-grin.svg|128px|right]]
For [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABrandon%27s_a_Gaylord&diff=200753546&oldid=200751718 this]. No further comment necessary. <tt>:D</tt> Epic cheers, [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|'''13''']] 11:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Heh. :) Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 20:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

::I also find those kind of responses very funny. Keep it short and snappy. When a vandal calls everyone Nazis, just say "OK", or something to that effect. '''[[User:Enigmaman|Enigma]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|msg!]]'' 20:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hi LS, Just saw your protection of DS's page. Could you take a look at and consider semi-protection for all of his pages as per my request at WP:RfPP ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#User:David_Shankbone_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 here])? Thanks, [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd go ahead and semi his front page, but that's already done. I typically semi anything in userspace on good-faith request from the associated user. Granted he says he's on vacation, now. Got to get off to class, but if vandalism continues or I hear from David I'll look into it. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 22:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, and I've sent an email to DS. [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] ([[User talk:R. Baley|talk]]) 22:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Just got back online. Was planning to ask DS, as well, though it's probably moot, now, since Maxim's gone ahead and protected. No skin off my nose. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 01:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Beautiful Formosa ==

*{{user3|Beautiful Formosa}}
This user has been editing disruptively. Having been warned numerous time by me, he/she seems to be ignoring the edit summaries of my reverts, and sometimes does not even leave any edit summaries while making unilateral moves and edits. He/She has also been adding unsourced contents to biographies of living people. Almost all of the edits are Taiwan-related and controversial. Please see his/her contributions for reference and take action (perhaps a short block). Thank you.--[[User:Jerrch|Jerrch]] 22:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Block of 124.180.116.122 ==

Thanks for blocking [[User:124.180.116.122]]; someone using this IP address has placed a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=200958736&oldid=200957528 bad faith report] on [[WP:AIV]] against me. Could you also protect [[User talk:124.180.116.122]] to prevent continued nonsense on the IP talk page? [[User:NHRHS2010|NHRHS2010]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010| Talk to me ]] 02:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Besuto ==

He's a user requesting unblock, claiming one of your autoblocks got him. Can you take a look? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:Seems to be the same user as is currently blocked on the IP; was editing anon, and got into a bit of a spat, looks like. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 03:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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== Whoops! ==

It looks like we both tried to use rollback on the Hogwarts article at the same time and our edits crashed and burned! Sorry about that! --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 05:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. :) I realized a bit after hitting rollback that I should have been reverting to an earlier version, too, heh. Tcncv seems to have gotten it for the both of us. Always glad to see people helping out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 05:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Babyboywhiner ==

I wouldn't recommend unblocking this editor, as it appears to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_A&diff=prev&oldid=199803493 another sock of JJonz]. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah. Didn't have much idea who it was, but seemed pretty evident they weren't up to anything good. Thanks for the heads-up. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::I really feel sorry for [[User:David A]], since he has become the main target of this vandal. Think there is anything that can be done? Perhaps semi-protecing his user pages? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] ([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]]) 07:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I could, although the user/user talk pages don't seem to be primary targets at the moment. =\ Depending on how active these socks are being, it may be worth asking [[WP:RFCU|checkusers]] to find sleeper accounts and/or block underlying IP addresses; semi-protection on repeat targets is likewise an option. I'm not sure how best to proceed, just yet, without seeing more of these socks in action. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 07:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for removing the block, I was wondering if there was any way that you can block all account creations from my I.P address (don’t block my account though). I wont want to start another account so that should be fine, because these types of incidents isn’t so good for my reputation (sharing an ip with a vandal) and I really don’t want it to happen again as it is a big time-waster. [[User:Fattyjwoods|Fattyjwoods]] ([[User talk:Fattyjwoods|Push my button]]) 04:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:If it continues to be an issue, I suppose we could see about it. Looks like it miiiight be dynamic? Wouldn't worry too much, though -- we used to have endemic problems with all of Singapore getting blocked accidentally, and as much of a hassle as it was, we managed. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Seeing from your user contribution you've done quite a bit of anti-vandal work....
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:Why, thanks. :) We all do our parts, I figure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 04:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Socks ==

[[User:Mohun]] might well be another sock of DWhiskaZ. Contributions suggest it. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Islam&diff=prev&oldid=201907426 here]. [[User:Relata refero|Relata refero]] ([[User talk:Relata refero|talk]]) 09:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:I echo the same feeling; not sure if it's conclusive, yet, I'll poke around for second/third opinions and wait for more activity. I won't take any offense if you run this past someone else, in the meantime, of course. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for reverting vandalsim in my user page. [[User:Tanvir che|Tanvir che]] ([[User talk:Tanvir che|talk]]) 09:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. :) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thankyou ==

Thankyou for your help. It really helps. I hope the page explains it well. [[User:Chubbennaitor/Main Menu|'''Chubb''']][[User talk:Chubbennaitor|'''enna''']][[User:Chubbennaitor/Guestbook|''itor'']] 11:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[WP:RFCU/CN]] ==

Luna, just an FYI that I've responded to your post at [[WP:RFCU/CN#Folding]]. Would it be more suitable to simply be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and merge the pages? Just a thought, but it'd allow us to get it over and done with, rather than all this discussion, and get on with other things :) Thoughts? [[User:AGK|'''Anthøny''']] 11:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Global warming]]==
As you were reverting Ross's latest, I was typing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARossnixon&diff=202196396&oldid=197620900 this]. Just a heads-up. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] ([[User talk:Raymond arritt|talk]]) 01:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for keeping me up to speed. Guess I'll check back at some point in the future. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Respond to Luna Santin ==

No problem, I guess you were using a tool like [[WP:AVT]]? I pasted the working copy of the text I had and appended it to the existing text instead of replacing, by mistake. [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 01:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:That's the gist of it, yeah. :) Glad it's sorted, anyway. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Smile Time! ==

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:Thanks! – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status ==

I am currently improving [[Bill Gates]] to [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] status, and noticed that you made substantial contributions to the article recently. If you have time, please help out in improving the article to Featured Article status. Thanks! [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 02:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Abusing page protection ==

Please don't abuse page protection. The discussions on the talk page, at the very least, were not all concluded. Blanking the closing statement itself is just stupid, as it contained nothing necessarily negative about anyone, and was calmly worded. This is just absentminded protection, and is not supported by the protection policy. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:The talk page didn't look very active, with no relevant edits in the past five days -- a more central forum may be more appropriate to continue the line of talk, anyway. Perhaps I'm acting a bit hastily, but ''if'' the matter is closed there are good reasons to blank the page. I see you're in ongoing discussion with Prodego, regarding said closure. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I just have a bad taste in my mouth about this whole thing. Protection at this point is a trivial matter, and there's no need for me to be upset about it. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::No need to apologize. You've done nothing wrong that I can see, and I sympathize with your position (which I hope is a small consolation, at least). – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 06:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Jeff Hardy dead ==

I didn't make it up, i seen it when i google searched a whole bunch of wrestling websites

not only that im sure that something was on myspace

just google search like i did —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thewwegod1|Thewwegod1]] ([[User talk:Thewwegod1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thewwegod1|contribs]]) 06:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 

== [[User talk:124.176.154.181]] ==

They requested an unblock. [[User:MaxSem|Max''S''em]]([[User talk:MaxSem|Han shot first!]]) 08:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:They were trolling off-site, bragging about how they'd vandalized and wouldn't be caught. Given prior interaction, I see no reason to unblock or believe a word they're saying (notice how they're predisposed to believe they're blocked for vandalism, without being told as much?)... but if others disagree, and somebody's willing to, I won't get in the way of an unblock. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== FAR nomination ==

[[Ku Klux Klan]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|featured article review]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|here]]. Reviewers' concerns are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/{{#if:|{{{2}}}|Ku Klux Klan}}|here]]. [[User:Orangemarlin|'''Orange''''''Marlin''']] [[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]] 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
==Communism==

Please give a valuable reason to you removed the AFD on communism. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:In all frankness, there's not a chance in hell a core topic article will be deleted -- that doesn't mean you can't work on it, in fact you're more than welcome to. If you'd rather start with a blank slate, starting a sandbox in your userspace is one option. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 00:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==[[Communism]] ==
[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|30px|]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]{{#if:| according to the reverts you have made on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. If you continue, '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. If necessary, pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. Please keep cool and ask me any questions if need be. Peace. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}} [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 00:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== User:Rahulkavalapara ==

Hi, Luna. I sure hope you're still online! We have what may be a returning vandal at [[User:Rahulkavalapara]] whose very first edit was a beautifully formatted...copyvio. Both he and his IP are removing the deletion notices; I also suspect the IP is an open proxy. Thanks for looking into this for me. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Around, but barely. ;) Deleted the page, will watch for more from {{user|24.119.165.139]] or {{user|Rahulkavalapara}}. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 08:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

*Likewise. Heading off to stare at the backs of my eyelids. Thanks for all you do. You are truly an asset to this site. --[[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 08:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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::I'm generally terrible at accepting compliments, so... well, thanks. :) We all do our part, I hope. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 19:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Quit being so gosh darn modest Luney Rum. You are as the kids say "the shit" and you rock. Now drink your rum like a good boy. [[User:KnowledgeOfSelf|KnowledgeOfSelf]] | [[User talk:KnowledgeOfSelf|talk]] 01:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::{{tl|fact}}, {{tl|fact}}, and yessir, with coke on the rocks. ;) – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

==Maternal deprivation==
Actually Luna it is now getting out of hand. KingsleyMiller applied for arbitration which was turned down.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration] He appealed - which was simply removed, and now has appealed again by way of a request for clarification.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Request__for_clarification_-_Request_for_appeal_-_Wikipedia_Sexist_Editing_in_Child_Psychology] All that is fine - except for this on the bottom of the talkpage. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KingsleyMiller&diff=prev&oldid=202623551] This seems to me a serious matter. The only arbitration JeanMercer and I have been involved in is with a sockpuppeteer (DPeterson was his most common name )who ran about 7 puppets to "own" all the attachment pages. He has been involved with real world disputes with JeanMercer before (in scientific papers) and his last entity, after the other 6 or 7 puppets were banned, was indef banned for breach of his sockpuppet ban which he did to harrass JeanMercer. The only other candidate for these '2 editors' is permabanned longtermabuser HeadleyDown. There was some evidence that he got in contact with the sockmaster during the last arbitration as well. Where do I make a formal complaint about this use of wiki to pursue harrassment of wiki editors off wiki? Whats the next step? FT2 knew all about the previous arbitration when he was an admin but I don't like to ask him now he's an arbitrator. He recused himself from this request for arbitration because of his involvement in the last one where he supported our claims that the 7 editors were all sockpuppets. I've mentioned Kingsleys post in the Request for clarification. Should I leave it to ArbCom or is it an admins matter?[[User:Fainites|Fainites]] [[User_talk:Fainites|barley]] 21:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Have left quite a lengthy post on his talk page; seems to be a breakdown of trust between him and others, which can be very difficult (if not impossible) to repair. Will try to keep an eye out. – [[User:Luna Santin|'''Luna Santin''']] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]]) 02:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Andochine

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Andochine:

User talk:Andochine

2008-03-17T09:24:23Z

Andochine:

User talk:Andochine

2008-03-17T09:23:50Z

Andochine:

== death to the infidel ==

whoever that may be

==Civility==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DangerTM&diff=prev&oldid=198154441 This edit] wins you a brief block. Do not repeat similar behaviour or you will blocked indefinitely. -- [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 09:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

{{unblock|hey you blokes said it would be a brief block, not till the 21st, i may be new and wrong, but the 21st seems a tad extreme if all I did was be incivil.[[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine#top|talk]]) 09:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)}}

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 you are just a great guy, I don't even know why you were blocked in the first place, I love you.[[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine#top|talk]]) 09:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

''Request handled by:'' [[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine#top|talk]]) 09:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Andochine

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Andochine:

User talk:Andochine

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Andochine: ←Created page with '== death to the infidel == whoever that may be'

== death to the infidel ==

whoever that may be

User:Andochine

2008-03-14T09:09:08Z

Andochine: ←Created page with 'Well, I have come here really to contribute, I like nor dislike nothing, I am completely inert.'

Well, I have come here really to contribute, I like nor dislike nothing, I am completely inert.

Ancient Egypt

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Andochine:

''Bold text'''[[Image:All Gizah Pyramids.jpg|thumb|250px|The pyramids are the most recognizable symbols of the civilization of ancient Egypt.]]
[Image:Ancient Egypt map.svg|thumb|200px|Map of ancient Egypt, showing major cities and sites of the Dynastic period (c. 3150 BC to 30 BC).]]
'''Ancient Egypt''' was a [[civilization]] in eastern [[North Africa]] concentrated along the middle to lower reaches of the [Nil River]] in what is now Egypt]] under the first [[pharaoh]], and it developed over the next
three millennia.<ref>Dodson (2004) p. 46</ref> Its history is divided into a series of stable periods, known as Kingdoms, that are separated by periodsof relative instability known as Intermediate Periods. After the end of the last Kingdom, known as the [[New Kingdom]], the civilization of
ancient Egypt entered a period of slow, steady decline, during which Egypt was conquered by a succession of foreign powers. The rule of the pharaohs officially ended in 31 BC when the early [[Roman Empire]] conquered [[Ptolemaic Egypt|Egypt]] and made it a province.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 217</ref>

The civilization of ancient Egypt thrived from adaptation to the conditions of the [[Nile River Valley]]. Controlled irrigation of the fertile valley produced surplus crops which fueled social development and culture. With resource to spare, the administration sponsored mineral exploitation of the valley and surrounding desert regions, the early development of an independent [[Egyptian hieroglyphs|writing system]], the organization of collective construction and agricultural projects, [[trade]] with surrounding regions, a== FUCK==nd a [[military]] that defeated foreign enemies and asserted Egyptian dominance. Motivating and organizing these activities was a bureaucracy of elite scribes, religious leaders, and administrators under the control of the divine pharaoh who ensured the cooperation and unity of the Egyptian people by means of an elaborate system of [[Ancient Egyptian religion|religious beliefs]].<ref>James (2005) p. 8</ref><ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 6–7</ref>
centuries. With the translation of hieroglyphs and a newfound respect for antiquities and excavations, the once-lost cultural heritage of the ancient Egyptians can once again be understood.<ref>James (2005) p. 84</ref>
== FUCKING CUNT PENIS CUNT ==

== History ==
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By the late [[Paleolithic]] period, the arid climate of northern Africa had become increasingly hot and dry, forcing the populations of the area to concentrate along the Nile valley, and since nomadic hunter-gatherers began living in the region during the Pleistocene some 1.8 million years ago, the Nile has been the lifeline of Egypt.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 17</ref> The fertile floodplain of the Nile gave humans the opportunity to develop a settled agricultural economy and a more sophisticated, centralized society that became a cornerstone in the history of human civilization.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 17, 67–69</ref>

===Predynastic Period===

By about 5500 BC, small tribes living in the Nile valley had developed into a series of unique cultures demonstrating firm control of agriculture and [[animal husbandry]] and identifiable by their unique pottery and personal items, such as combs, bracelets, and beads. The largest of these early cultures in upper Egypt, the [[Badari]], was known for its high quality ceramics, stone tools, and its use of copper.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/badari/info.html|title=The Badarian Civilisation|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Their burials, simple pit graves with signs of social stratification, suggest that the culture was coming under the control of more powerful leaders.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 39</ref>

In southern Egypt, the [[Predynastic Egypt|Naqada culture]], similar in culture to the Badari, began to expand along the Nile by about 4000 BC. Over a period of about 1000 years, the Naqada culture developed from a few small farming communities into a powerful civilization whose leaders were in complete control of the people and resources of the Nile valley.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/naqadan/chronology.html#naqadaI|title=Chronology of the Naqada Period|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Establishing a power center at [[Hierakonpolis]], and later at [[Abydos, Egypt|Abydos]], Naqada leaders expanded their control of Egypt northwards along the Nile and engaged in trade with [[Nubia]], the oases of the western desert, and the cultures of the eastern Mediterranean.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 61</ref>

The Naqada culture manufactured a diverse array of material goods, reflective of the increasing power and wealth of the elite, which included painted pottery, high quality decorative stone vases, cosmetic palettes, and jewelry made of gold, lapis, and ivory. They also developed a ceramic glaze known as [[Egyptian faience|faience]] which was used well into the Roman Period to decorate cups, amulets, and figurines.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/faience/periods.html|title=Faience in different Periods|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> During the last phase of the predynastic, the Naqada culture began using written symbols which would eventually evolve into a full system of hieroglyphs for writing the ancient Egyptian language.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1</ref>

===Early Dynastic Period===
[[Image:NarmerPalette ROM-gamma.jpg|thumb|The [[Narmer Palette]] depicts the unification of the Two Lands.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 32</ref>]]
The ancient Egyptians chose to begin their official history with a king named "Meni" (or [[Menes]] in Greek) who they believed had united the two kingdoms of [[Upper Egypt|Upper]] and [[Lower Egypt]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 78–80</ref> The transition to a unified state actually happened more gradually than the ancient Egyptian writers would have us believe, and there is no contemporary record of Menes. Scholars now believe, however, that the mythical Menes may have actually been the pharaoh Narmer, who is depicted wearing royal regalia on the ceremonial [[Narmer Palette]] in a symbolic act of unification.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 12–13</ref> The third century BC Egyptian priest [[Manetho]] grouped the lengthy line of pharaohs following Menes into 30 dynasties, a system still in use today.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 6</ref>

In the early dynastic period about 3150 BC, the first pharaohs solidified their control over lower Egypt by establishing a capital at [[Memphis, Egypt|Memphis]], from which they could control the labor force and agriculture of the fertile delta region as well as the lucrative and critical trade routes to the Levant. The increasing power and wealth of the pharaohs during the early dynastic period was reflected in their elaborate [[mastaba]] tombs and mortuary cult structures at Abydos which were used to celebrate the deified pharaoh after his death.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 70</ref> The strong institution of kingship developed by the pharaohs served to legitimize state control over the land, labor, and resources that were essential to the survival and growth of ancient Egyptian civilization.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/archaicegypt/info.html|title=Early Dynastic Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

===Old Kingdom===
[[Image:MenkauraAndQueen MuseumOfFineArtsBoston.png|thumb|upright|[[Menkaura]] and his consort Queen Khamerernebty II]]
Stunning advances in architecture, art, and technology were made during Old Kingdom, fueled by the increased agricultural productivity made possible by a well developed central administration.<ref>James (2005) p. 40</ref> Under the direction of the [[vizier]], state officials collected taxes, coordinated irrigation projects to improve crop yield, drafted peasants to work on construction projects, and established a justice system to maintain peace and order.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 102</ref> With the surplus resources made available by a productive and stable economy, the state was able to sponsor construction of colossal monuments and to commission exceptional works of art from the royal workshops. The pyramids built by [[Djoser]], [[Khufu]], and their descendants are the most memorable symbols of ancient Egyptian civilization, and power of the pharaohs that controlled it.

Along with the rising importance of a central administration arose a new class of educated scribes and officials who were granted estates by the pharaoh in payment for their services. Pharaohs also made land grants to their mortuary cults and local temples to ensure that these institutions would have the necessary resources to worship the pharaoh after his death. By the end of the Old Kingdom, five centuries of these feudal practices had slowly eroded the economic power of the pharaoh, who could no longer afford to support a large centralized administration.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 116–7</ref> As the power of the pharaoh diminished, regional governors called [[nomarch]]s began to challenge the supremacy of the pharaoh which, coupled with [[22nd century BC drought|severe droughts]] between 2200 and 2150 BC,<ref>{{citeweb|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/apocalypse_egypt_04.shtml |title=The Fall of the Old Kingdom |author=Fekri Hassan|publisher=British Broadcasting Corporation|accessdate=2008-03-10}}</ref> ultimately caused the country to enter a 140-year period of famine and strife known as the First Intermediate Period.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 69</ref>

===First Intermediate Period===
After Egypt's central government collapsed at the end of the Old Kingdom, the administration could no longer support or stabilize the country's economy. Regional governors could not rely on the king for help in times of crisis, and the ensuing food shortages and political disputes escalated into famines and small scale civil wars. Yet despite difficult problems, local leaders, owing no tribute to the pharaoh, used their newfound independence to establish a thriving culture in the provinces. Once in control of their own resources, the provinces became economically richer—a fact demonstrated by larger and better burials among all social classes.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 120</ref> In bursts of creativity, provincial artisans adopted and adapted cultural motifs formerly restricted to the royalty of the Old Kingdom, and scribes developed literary styles which expressed the optimism and originality of the period.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 146</ref>

Free from their loyalties to the pharaoh, local rulers began competing with each other for territorial control and political power. By 2160 BC, rulers in Hierakonpolis controlled Lower Egypt while a rival clan based in [[Thebes, Egypt|Thebes]], under the name Intef, took control of Upper Egypt. As the Intefs grew in power and expanded their control northward, a clash between the two rival dynasties became inevitable. Around 2055 BC the Theban forces under [[Mentuhotep II|Nebhepetre Mentuhotep II]] finally defeated the Herakleopolitan rulers, reuniting the Two Lands and inaugurating a period of economic and cultural renaissance known as the Middle Kingdom.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 29</ref>

===Middle Kingdom===
[[Image:Mentuhotep Seated edit.jpg|thumb|upright|Mentuhotep II, the founder of the Middle Kingdom]]
The pharaohs of the Middle Kingdom restored the country's prosperity and stability, thereby stimulating a resurgence of art, literature, and monumental building projects.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 148</ref> Mentuhotep II and his 11th Dynasty successors ruled from Thebes, but the vizier [[Amenemhet I]], upon assuming kingship at the beginning of the 12th Dynasty around 1985 BC, shifted the nation's capital to the city of [[Itjtawy]] located in [[Faiyum Governorate|Faiyum]].<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 79</ref> From Itjtawy, the pharaohs of the 12th Dynasty undertook a far-sighted land reclamation and irrigation scheme to increase agricultural output in the region. Moreover, the military reconquered territory in Nubia rich in quarries and gold mines, while laborers built a defensive structure in the Eastern Delta, called the "[[Walls-of-the-Ruler]]", to defend against foreign attack.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 158</ref>

Having secured military and political security and vast agricultural and mineral wealth, the nation's population, arts, and religion flourished. In contrast to elitist Old Kingdom attitudes towards the gods, the Middle Kingdom experienced an increase in expressions of personal piety and what could be called a [[democratization]] of the afterlife, in which all people possessed a soul and could be welcomed into the company of the gods after death.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 179–82</ref> Middle Kingdom literature featured sophisticated themes and characters written in a confident, eloquent style,<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 146</ref> and the [[relief]] and portrait sculpture of the period captured
subtle, individual details that reached new heights of technical perfection.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 90</ref>

The last great ruler of the Middle Kingdom, [[Amenemhat III]], allowed Asiatic settlers into the delta region to provide a sufficient labor force for his especially active mining and building campaigns. These ambitious building and mining activities, however, combined with inadequate [[Flooding of the Nile|Nile floods]] later in his reign, strained the economy and precipitated the slow decline into the Second Intermediate Period during the later 13th and 14th dynasties. It was during this decline that the foreign Asiatic settlers began to seize control of the delta region, eventually coming to power in Egypt as the [[Hyksos]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 188</ref>

===Second Intermediate Period and the Hyksos===
Around 1650 BC, as the power of the Middle Kingdom pharaohs weakened, Asiatic immigrants living in the Eastern Delta town of [[Avaris]] seized control of the region and forced the central government to retreat to Thebes, where the pharaoh was treated as a vassal and expected to pay tribute.<ref>Ryholt (1997) p. 310</ref> The Hyksos ("foreign rulers"), imitated Egyptian models of government and portrayed themselves as pharaohs, thus integrating Egyptian elements into their [[Middle Bronze Age]] culture.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 189</ref>

After their retreat, the Theban kings found themselves trapped between the Hyksos to the north and the Hyksos' Nubian allies, the [[Kushite]]s, to the south. Nearly 100 years of tenuous inaction followed, and it was not until 1555 BC that the Theban forces finally gathered enough strength to challenge the Hyksos in a conflict that would last more than 30 years.<ref>Ryholt (1997) p. 310</ref> The pharaohs [[Seqenenre Tao II]] and [[Kamose]] were ultimately able to defeat the Nubians, but it was Kamose's successor, [[Ahmose I]], who successfully waged a series of campaigns that permanently eradicated the Hyksos' presence in Egypt. In the New Kingdom that followed, the military became a central priority for the pharaohs seeking to expand Egypt’s borders and secure her complete dominance of the [[Near East]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 224</ref>

[[Image:Egypt 1450 BC.svg|upright|thumb|left|The maximum territorial extent of Ancient Egypt (15th century BC)]]

===New Kingdom===
The pharaohs of the New Kingdom used military force to expand the country's borders and defeat its enemies. Campaigns waged under [[Tuthmosis I]] and his grandson [[Tuthmosis III]] extended the influence of the pharaohs into Syria and Nubia and commanded obedience and tribute from these neighbors. Strengthened diplomatic connections between the major Near East powers cemented loyalties among Egypt's allies and opened access to critical imports such as [[bronze]], wood, and luxuries.<ref>James (2005) p. 48</ref>

With prosperity secured, the New Kingdom pharaohs began an impressive building campaign to promote the newly ordained state god, [[Amun]], whose growing cult was based in [[Karnak]] at Thebes. In addition to commemorating Amun, the pharaohs of the New Kingdom also prolifically built monuments to glorify their own achievements, both real and imagined. The female pharaoh [[Hatshepsut]] used such propaganda to legitimize her claim to the throne over her nephew-stepson Tuthmosis III, who was then a child.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/chronology/hatshepsut.html |title=Hatshepsut|accessdate=2007-12-09 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Despite Hatshepsut's successful reign—which included launching trading expeditions to [[Land of Punt|Punt]], building an elegant mortuary temple, and erecting a colossal pair of obelisks and a chapel at Karnak temple—Tuthmosis III eventually erased the legacy of this female pharaoh and usurper near the end of his reign.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 108</ref>

[[Image:HouseAltar-AkhenatenNefertitiAndThreeOfTheirDaughters.png|thumb|Akhenaten and family receiving life from the rays of the Aten]]
In 1350 BC, the New Kingdom's prosperous expansion, construction, and accumulation of wealth, established over a period of nearly 200 years, was briefly jeopardized when Amenhotep IV unexpectedly ascended the throne and instituted a series of radical and chaotic reforms. Changing his name to [[Akhenaten]], he touted the previously obscure god [[Aten]] as the supreme deity, suppressed the worship of other deities, and attacked the power of the entrenched priestly establishment.<ref>Aldred (1988) p. 259</ref> Moving the capital to the new city of Akhetaten (modern-day [[Amarna]]), Akhenaten turned a deaf ear to foreign affairs and absorbed himself in his new religion and artistic style. After his death, the cult of the Aten was quickly abandoned, and the subsequent pharaohs [[Tutankhamun]], [[Aye]], and [[Horemheb]] quietly erased all mention of Akhenaten's heresy, now known as the [[Amarna Period]].<ref>Cline (2001) p. 273</ref>

[[Image:SFEC EGYPT ABUSIMBEL 2006-003.JPG|thumb|left|upright|Four colossal statues of [[Ramesses II]] flank the entrance of his temple [[Abu Simbel]].]]
The 18th Dynasty ended when its last three kings—Tutankhamun, Aye, and Horemheb—all died without an heir. The throne then passed to the military man [[Ramesses I]], who founded the 19th Dynasty. His grandson [[Ramesses II]], also known as Ramesses the Great, ascended the throne around 1279 BC at the age of 18 and built more temples, erected more statues and obelisks, and sired more children than any other pharaoh in history.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 146</ref> A bold military leader, Ramesses II led his army against the Hittites in the [[Battle of Kadesh]] and, after fighting to a stalemate, eventually concluded the first recorded peace treaty in 1258 BC.<ref>Tyldesley (2001) p. 76–7</ref> Despite this temporary peace, however, internal struggles and foreign threats would again challenge the prosperity of the region.<ref>James (2005) p. 54</ref>

Egypt's wealth made it a tempting target for invasion, and the pharaohs of the late New Kingdom were repeatedly challenged by the [[Ancient Libya|Libyans]] and a coalition of Asiatics known as the [[Sea Peoples]]. Initially, the military was able to repel these invasions, but Egypt eventually lost control of Syria and Palestine. The impact of external threats was exacerbated by internal problems of the kingdom: corruption within the administration, theft from the royal tombs in the [[Valley of the Kings]], civil unrest, and political intrigue undermined the unity of the country and the authority of the pharaoh. During the New Kingdom, the high priests at the [[Precinct of Amun-Re|temple of Amun]] in Thebes had accumulated vast tracts of land and wealth, and their growing power splintered the country during the Third Intermediate Period.<ref>James (2005) p. 54</ref>

===Third Intermediate Period===
[[Image:Third Intermediate Period map.svg|thumb|upright|Around 730 BC Libyans from the west and other political factions had fractured the political unity of country.]]
Following the death of [[Ramesses XI]], [[Smendes]] assumed authority over the northern part of Egypt, ruling from the city of [[Tanis, Egypt|Tanis]]. The southern part was effectively controlled by the [[High Priests of Amun at Thebes]], who recognized Smendes in name and title only.<ref>Cerny (1975) p. 645</ref> During this time, Libyans had been settling in the western delta, and chieftains of these settlers began increasing their autonomy. Libyan princes took control of the delta under Sheshonq I in 945 founding the so-called Libyan or Bubastite dynasty which would rule for some 200 years. Sheshonq also gained control of southern Egypt by placing his family members in important priestly positions. Libyan control began to erode as a rival dynasty arose in Leontopolis, and Kushites threatened from the south. Around 727 BC the Kushite king Piankhi invaded northward, seizing control of Thebes and eventually the Delta.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 345</ref>

Egypt's far-reaching prestige declined considerably by the end of the Third Intermediate Period. Her foreign allies had fallen under the [[Assyria]]n sphere of influence, and by 700 BC war between the two states became inevitable. Between 671 and 667 BC the Assyrians began their attack on Egypt. The reigns of both [[Taharqa]] and his successor, [[Tanutamun]], were filled with constant conflict with the Assyrians, against whom Egypt enjoyed several victories. Ultimately, the Assyrians pushed the Kushites back into Nubia, occupied Memphis, and sacked the temples of Thebes.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 358</ref>

===Late Period===
With no permanent plans for conquest, the Assyrians left control of Egypt to a series of vassals who became known as the Saite kings of the [[Twenty-sixth dynasty of Egypt|Twenty-Sixth Dynasty]]. By 653 BC, the Saite king [[Psamtik I]] was able to oust the Assyrians with the help of Greek mercenaries, who were recruited to form Egypt's first Navy. Greek influence expanded greatly as the city of [[Naukratis]] became the home of Greeks in the delta. The Saite kings based in the new capital of Sais witnessed a brief but spirited resurgence in the economy and culture, but in 525 BC, the powerful Persians, led by [[Cambyses II]], began their conquest of Egypt, eventually capturing the pharaoh Psamtik III at the battle of [[Pelusium]]. Cambyses II then assumed the formal title of pharaoh, but ruled Egypt from his home of [[Susa]], leaving Egypt under the control of a satrapy. A few successful revolts against the Persians marked the 5th century BC, but Egypt was never able to permanently overthrow the Persians.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 383</ref>

Following its annexation by Persia, Egypt was joined with [[Cyprus]] and [[Phoenicia]] in the sixth [[satrap]]y of the [[Achaemenid Dynasty|Achaemenid Persian Empire]]. This first period of Persian rule over Egypt, also known as the Twenty-Seventh dynasty, ended in 402 BC, and from 380–343 BC the [[Thirtieth dynasty of Egypt|Thirtieth Dynasty]] ruled as the last native royal house of Egypt. A brief restoration of Persian rule, sometimes known as the [[Thirty-first dynasty of Egypt|Thirty-First Dynasty]], began in 343 BC, but shortly after, in 332 BC, the Persian ruler Mazaces handed Egypt over to [[Alexander the Great]] without a fight.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 385</ref>

===Ptolemaic Dynasty===
[[Image:Клеопатра VII.jpg|thumb|upright|[[Cleopatra VII]] adopted the ancient traditions and language of Egypt.]]

In 332 BC, Alexander III of [[Macedon]] conquered Egypt with little resistance from the Persians and was welcomed by the Egyptians as a deliverer. The Greek government established by Alexander's successors, the Ptolemies, was based on an Egyptian model and based in the new capital city of [[Alexandria]]. The city was to showcase the power and prestige of Greek rule, and became a seat of learning and culture, centered at the famous [[Library of Alexandria]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 405</ref> The [[Lighthouse of Alexandria]] lit the way for the many ships which kept trade flowing through the city, as the Ptolemies made commerce and revenue-generating enterprises, such as papyrus manufacturing, their top priority.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 411</ref>

The Greek culture did not completely supplant the traditional culture, as the Ptolemies supported time-honored traditions in an effort to secure the loyalty of the populace. They built new temples in the Egyptian style, supported the traditional cults, and portrayed themselves as pharaohs. Some
traditions merged, as Greek and Egyptian gods were synthesized into composite deities, such as [[Serapis]], and classical Greek forms of sculpture influenced traditional Egyptian motifs. Despite their efforts to maintain order, the Ptolemies were challenged by rebellion, bitter family rivalries, and the powerful mob of Alexandria.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 418</ref>

As [[Ancient Rome|Rome]] relied heavily on imports of grain from Egypt, the Romans took great interest in the political situation in Egypt. As revolts, ambitious politicians, and powerful Syrian opponents made this situation unstable, Roman forces were sent to secure the country, once and for all, as a province of the empire.<ref>James (2005) p. 62</ref>

===Roman Domination===
Egypt became a province of the [[Roman Empire]] in 30 BC, following the defeat of [[Marc Antony]] and [[History of Ptolemaic Egypt|Ptolemaic]] Queen [[Cleopatra VII]] by [[Augustus|Octavian]] (later [[Roman emperor|Emperor]] Augustus) in the [[Battle of Actium]]. The Romans relied heavily on grain
shipments from Egypt, and the Roman army, under the control of a prefect appointed by the Emporer, quelled rebellions, strictly enforced the collection of heavy taxes, and prevented against the attacks of bandits which had become a notorious problem in the period.<ref>James (2005) p. 63</ref> Alexandria became an increasingly important center on the trade route with the orient, as exotic
luxuries were in high demand in Rome.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 426</ref>

Although the Romans had a more hostile attitude towards the Egyptians than the Greeks, some traditions such as mummification, worship of the traditional gods, and the language were allowed to continue.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 422</ref> The emporers even had themselves depicted as pharaohs. The administration, however, was Roman in style and closed to native Egyptians. From the mid-first century AD, [[Christianity]] took root in Alexandria and spread. Incompatible with paganism, Christianity sought to win converts and threatened popular religious traditions. This led to persecutions which culminated in the great purges of [[Diocletian]] starting in 303 AD, but eventually Christianity won out.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 441</ref> As a consequence, Egypt's pagan culture was suppressed once and for all, and the ability to read [[Egyptian hieroglyphs]] disappeared along with the Egyptian priests and priestesses who officiated at the temples, which were converted to churches or abandoned to the desert.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 445</ref>

==Government and economy==
===Administration and commerce===
[[Image:Pharaoh.svg|thumb|upright|The pharaoh was usually depicted wearing symbols of royalty and power.]]
The [[pharaoh]] was the absolute monarch of the country and, at least in theory, wielded complete control of the land and its resources. The king was also the supreme military commander, responsible for all military and policy decisions. The king relied on a bureaucracy of officials to manage his affairs, and in charge of the administration was his second in command, the vizier. The vizier acted as the king's representative and coordinated land surveys, the treasury, building projects, the legal system, and the archives.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358</ref> At a local level, the country was divided into 42 administrative regions called [[Nome (Egypt)|nomes]]. Each nome's governor, called a nomarch, was accountable to the vizier for his jurisdiction. The temples formed the backbone of the economy and were not only houses of worship, but were also responsible for collecting and storing the nation's wealth in a system of [[granary|granaries]] and treasuries. From these central storage facilities, administered by overseers, grain and goods could be distributed to the populace.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 363</ref>

Much of the economy was centrally organized and strictly controlled. Although the ancient Egyptians did not use [[coinage]], they did use a type of money-barter system,<ref>Meskell (2004) p. 23</ref> with standard sacks of grain and the ''[[Deben (Egyptian weight unit)|deben]]'', a weight of roughly 91 grams of copper or silver, forming a common denominator.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> Workers were paid in grain; a simple laborer might earn 5½ sacks (191 kg) of grain per month, while a foreman might earn 7½ sacks (261 kg). Prices were fixed across the country and recorded in lists to facilitate trading; for example a shirt cost five copper ''deben'', while a cow cost 140 ''deben''.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> Grain could be traded for other goods, according to the fixed price list.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> During the fifth century BC coined money was introduced into Egypt from abroad. At first the coins were used as standardized pieces of precious metal rather than true money, but in the following centuries international traders came to rely on coinage.<ref>Walbank (1984) p. 125</ref>

===Social status===
Egyptian society was highly stratified, and social status was expressly displayed. Farmers made up the bulk of the population, but agricultural produce was owned directly by the state, temple, or noble family that owned the land.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 383</ref> Most of the population did not have freedom of movement or a free choice of career. Farmers were also subject to a labor tax and were required to work on irrigation or construction projects in a ''[[corvée]]'' system.<ref>James (2005) p. 136</ref> Artists and craftsmen were of higher status than farmers, but they were also under state control, working in the shops attached to the temples and paid directly from the state treasury. [[Scribes]] and officials formed the upper class in ancient Egypt, prominently displaying their social status in art and literature. [[Slavery]] was known in ancient Egypt, but the extent and prevalence of its practice are unclear.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/social/index.html |title=Social classes in ancient Egypt |accessdate=2007-12-11 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

[[Image:Louvre-antiquites-egyptiennes-p1020372 Cropped and bg reduced.png|thumb|left|Scribes were elite and well educated. They assessed taxes, kept records, and were responsible for administration.]]
===Legal system===
The head of the legal system in ancient Egypt was officially the pharaoh, who was responsible for proclaiming laws, delivering justice, and maintaining law and order, a concept the ancient Egyptians referred to as [[Ma'at]].<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref> Though no legal codes from ancient Egypt survive, the many existing court documents of the period show that Egyptian law was based on a common-sense view of right and wrong that emphasized reaching agreements and resolving conflicts rather than strictly adhering to a complicated set of statutes.<ref name=UCJohnson>{{cite web|url=http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/1/777777190170/|title=Women's Legal Rights in Ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=University of Chicago| author=Janet H. Johnson}}</ref>

The ancient Egyptians viewed men and women, including people from all social classes except slaves, as essentially equal under the law, and even the lowliest peasant was entitled to petition the [[vizier]] and his court for redress.<ref name=UCJohnson/> Both men and women had the right to own and sell property, make contracts, marry and divorce, receive inheritance, and pursue legal disputes in court. Married couples could own property jointly and protect themselves from divorce by agreeing to marriage contracts, which stipulated the financial obligations of the husband to his wife and children should the marriage end.<ref name=UCJohnson/>

Local councils of elders, known as ''Kenbet'' in the New Kingdom, were responsible for ruling in court cases involving small claims and minor disputes, although the Kenbet's ability to enforce its rulings was limited.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref> Local Kenbets deferred serious or complicated cases involving murder, major land transactions, and tomb robbery to the ''Great Kenbet'', over which the vizier or pharaoh presided. Plaintiffs and defendants were expected to represent themselves in legal matters and were required to swear an oath that they had told the truth.<ref>Oakes p. 472</ref> In cases of tomb robbery or assassination plots, the state took on both the role of prosecutor and judge, and it could torture the accused with beatings to obtain a confession and the names of any co-conspirators. Whether the charges were trivial or serious, court scribes documented the complaint, testimony, and verdict of the case for future reference.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358</ref>

Punishment for minor crimes involved either imposition of fines, beatings, facial mutilation, or exile, depending on the severity of the offense. Serious crimes such as murder and tomb robbery were punished by execution, which was carried out by decapitation, drowning, or impaling the criminal on a stake. Punishment could also be extended to the criminal's family.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref>

From the New Kingdom on [[oracle]]s began to play a major role in the legal system, dispensing justice in both civil and criminal cases. The procedure was to ask the god a "yes" or "no" question concerning the right or wrong of an issue. The god, carried by a number of priests, rendered judgment by choosing one or the other, moving forward or backward, or pointing to one of the answers written on a piece of papyrus or an ostracon.<ref>McDowell (1999) p. 168</ref>

===Agriculture===
{{see also|Ancient Egyptian cuisine}}
[[Image:Tomb of Nakht (2).jpg|thumb|upright|A tomb relief depicts workers plowing the fields, harvesting the crops, and threshing the grain under the direction of an overseer.]]
A combination of several favorable geographical features contributed to the success of the ancient Egyptian culture, the most important of which was the rich fertile [[soil]] resulting from annual inundations of the Nile river. The ancient Egyptians were thus able to produce an abundance of food, allowing the population to devote more time and resources to cultural, technological, and artistic pursuits. Land management was crucial in ancient Egypt because [[taxes]] were assessed based on the amount of land a person owned.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 361 </ref>

Farming in Egypt was dependent upon the cycle of the Nile River. The Egyptians recognized three seasons in their written records: ''Akhet'' (flooding), ''Peret'' (planting), and ''Shemu'' (harvesting). The flooding season lasted from June to September, depositing on the river's banks a layer of mineral-rich [[silt]] perfect for growing crops. After the floodwaters had receded, the growing season lasted from October to February. Farmers plowed and planted seeds in the fields, which were irrigated with ditches and canals. Egypt received little rainfall, so farmers relied on the Nile to water their crops.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 514</ref> From March to May, farmers would use [[sickles]] to harvest their crops, which would then be [[Threshing|threshed]] with a [[flail]] in order to separate the straw from the grain. [[Winnowing]] would remove the [[chaff]] from the grain, and the grain would then be ground into flour, brewed to make beer, or stored for later use.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 506</ref>

The ancient Egyptians cultivated [[emmer]] and [[barley]], and several other cereal grains, all of which were used to make the two main food staples of [[bread]] and [[beer]].<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 510</ref> [[Flax]] plants, uprooted before they started flowering, were grown for the fibers of their stems. These fibers were split along their length and spun into thread, which was used to weave sheets of [[linen]] and to make clothing. [[Papyrus]] growing on the banks of the Nile River was used to make paper. Vegetables and fruits were grown in garden plots, close to habitations and on higher ground, and had to be watered by hand. Vegetables included leeks, garlic, melons, squashes, pulses, lettuce, and other crops, in addition to grapes which were made into wine.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 577 and 630</ref>
[[Image:Maler der Grabkammer des Sennudem 001.jpg|thumb|left|Sennedjem plows his fields with a pair of oxen, used as beasts of burden and a source of food.]]

===Livestock===
Livestock were a critical source of food and natural products to the ancient Egyptians. The cow was the most important stock animal, as it provided meat, milk, skins, and fat. The slaughter of a fattened ox was a central part of an offering ritual.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> The administration collected taxes on livestock in regular censuses, and the size of a herd reflected the prestige and importance of the estate or temple that owned them. In addition to cattle, the ancient Egyptians kept sheep, goats, and pigs. Birds such as ducks, geese, and pigeons, were captured in nets and bred on farms where they were force-fed with dough to fatten them.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> The Nile provided a plentiful source of fish. Bees were also domesticated from at least the Old Kingdom, and they provided both honey and wax.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 409</ref>

The ancient Egyptians used donkeys and oxen as beasts of burden, and they were responsible for plowing the fields and trampling seed into the soil. Horses were introduced by the Hyksos in the Second Intermediate Period, and the Arabian camel, though known from the New Kingdom, was not used as a beast of burden until the Late Period.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> Dogs and cats were common family pets, while more exotic pets imported from the heart of Africa, such as monkeys and lions, were reserved for royalty. During the Late Period, the worship of the gods in their animal form was extremely popular, such as the cat goddess [[Bastet]] and the ibis god [[Thoth]], and these animals were bred in large numbers on farms for the purpose of ritual sacrifice.<ref>Oakes (2003) p. 229</ref>

===Natural resources===
Egypt is rich in building and decorative stone, copper and lead ores, gold, and semiprecious stones. These natural resources allowed the ancient Egyptians to build monuments, sculpt statues, make tools, and fashion jewelry. They were so thorough in the search for gold that no new deposits have since been discovered in Egypt.<ref>Greaves (1929) p. 123</ref> [[Embalming|Embalmers]] used salts from the [[Wadi Natrun]] for [[mummy|mummification]], which also provided the [[gypsum]] needed to make plaster.<ref>Lucas (1962) p. 413</ref>

The ore-bearing rock formations of ancient Egypt were found in distant, inhospitable [[wadi]]s of the eastern desert and the Sinai and required large, state-controlled expeditions to obtain the gold, copper ores, and decorative stones found there. The [[Wadi Hammamat]] was a notable source of granite, [[greywacke]], and gold. Whenever possible, prisoners and slaves were forced into mining service, but Egyptian peasants were also conscripted for this unpleasant labor.

[[Flint]] was the first mineral collected and used to make tools, and flint handaxes are the earliest pieces of evidence of habitation in the Nile valley. Nodules of the mineral were carefully flaked to make blades and arrowheads of moderate hardness and durability even after copper was adopted for this purpose.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 28</ref> The Egyptians worked deposits of the lead ore [[galena]] at Gebel Rosas to make net sinkers, plumb bobs, and small figurines. Copper was the most important metal for toolmaking in ancient Egypt and was smelted in furnaces from [[malachite]] ore mined in the Sinai.<ref>Scheel (1989) p. 14</ref> Workers collected gold by washing the nuggets out of sediment in [[alluvial deposits]], or by the more labor-intensive process of grinding and washing gold-bearing quartzite. Iron deposits found in upper Egypt were utilized in the Late Period.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 166</ref>
High-quality building stones were abundant in Egypt; the ancient Egyptians quarried limestone all along the Nile valley, granite from Aswan, and basalt and sandstone from the wadis of the eastern desert. Deposits of decorative stones such as [[porphyry]], greywacke, [[alabaster]], and [[carnelian]] dotted the eastern desert and were collected even before the First Dynasty. In the Ptolemaic and Roman Periods, miners worked deposits of [[emerald]]s in Wadi Sikait and [[amethyst]] in Wadi el-Hudi.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 51</ref>

==Language==

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The [[Egyptian language]] belongs to the [[Afro-Asiatic]] language phylum and is related to the [[Semitic languages]], such as [[Arabic]] and [[Hebrew]], as well as the [[Afro-Asiatic languages]] of [[North Africa]], such as [[Berber languages|Berber]] and [[Cushitic]]. Used continuously from before 3000 BC to the 11th century AD, ancient Egyptian was, at one point, the longest-surviving language in the world.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1</ref> The language underwent major changes in its pronunciation and usage over the course of history and was spoken in many [[dialect]]s. The oldest stage of the language, [[Old Egyptian]], was used until about 2100 BC, when it was gradually displaced by [[Middle Egyptian]]. By 1600 BC, [[Late Egyptian]] began to develop and was used until about 600 BC. [[Demotic (Egyptian)|Demotic]] developed from Late Egyptian and survived until the 5th century AD; it was at one time commonly used alongside [[Coptic language|Coptic]], the final phase of the language that was used from the 1st to the 11th century AD. A dialect of Coptic remained in use for services of the [[Coptic church]] and is still in limited use today.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1–2</ref>

===Writing===

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[[Image:Rosetta Stone BW.jpeg|thumb|upright|The [[Rosetta stone]] enabled linguists to begin the process of hieroglyph decipherment.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 13</ref>]]

The ancient Egyptian writing system is known as "[[hieroglyphic]]" (incorrectly termed "hieroglyphics") and is composed of some 500 symbols called hieroglyphs. There is no explanation for exactly how the system was devised, but it was suddenly adopted and developed shortly before 3000 BC. Each hieroglyph is a picture of a real thing—a bird, tool, or body part— and most of the common hieroglyphs correspond to a letter or letter combination in the [[alphabet]]. Words in the language are spelled out by stringing together the hieroglyphs whose sounds make up the word. Like the semitic languages, ancient Egyptian does not indicate vowels.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 13</ref>

Hieroglyphs were a formal script, used on stone monuments and in tombs, that could be as detailed as individual works of art. In day-to-day writing, scribes used a cursive form of writing, called [[hieratic]], which was quicker and easier. While formal hieroglyphs may be read in rows or columns in either direction, hieratic was always written from right to left, usually in horizontal rows. After Demotic became the dominant spoken language, a new form of writing, of the same name, became the prevalent writing style, and it is this form of writing—along with formal hieroglyphs—that accompany the Greek text on the [[Rosetta Stone]]. In the 1st century AD, Coptic Christians living in Egypt discarded the native demotic script and instead wrote their language, using a modified Greek alphabet, in a script also known as [[Coptic]].<ref>Allen (2000) p. 7</ref> Although formal hieroglyphs were used in a ceremonial role until the 4th century AD, towards the end only a small handful of highly educated priests could still read them; as the traditional religious establishments were disbanded, the knowledge of their meaning was lost. Only in 1822, after the discovery of the Rosetta stone in 1799 and years of research by [[Thomas Young (scientist)|Thomas Young]] and [[Jean-François Champollion]], were the hieroglyphs deciphered.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 8</ref>

[[Image:Edwin Smith Papyrus v2.jpg|thumb|upright|left|The [[Edwin Smith Papyrus|Edwin Smith surgical papyrus]] describes anatomy and medical treatments and is written in hieratic.]]

===Literature===

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Writing first appeared in association with kingship on labels and tags for items found in royal tombs. By the Old Kingdom, this tradition of writing had evolved into the tomb autobiography, such as those of [[Harkhuf]] and [[Weni the Elder|Weni]]. The genre known as ''[[Sebayt]]'' (''Instructions'') was developed to communicate teachings and guidance from famous nobles; the [[Ipuwer papyrus]], a poem of lamentations describing natural disasters and social upheaval, is an extreme example of such an instruction. During the First Intermediate Period and the Middle Kingdom, the prose style of literature matured, with [[The Story of Sinuhe]] perhaps being the classic of Egyptian literature.<ref>Lichtheim (1975) p. 11</ref> Also written at this time was the [[Westcar Papyrus]], a set of stories told to [[Khufu]] by his sons relating the marvels performed by priests.<ref>Lichtheim (1975) p. 215</ref> Towards the end of the New Kingdom, the [[Story of Wenamun]] was written. It tells the story of a noble who is robbed on his way to buy cedar from Lebanon and of his struggle to return to Egypt; the text also shows the end of united Egypt and the start of the tumultuous Third Intermediate Period.

==Culture==
===Daily life===
[[Image:Ägyptischer Maler um 1400 v. Chr. 001.jpg|thumb|The ancient Egyptians maintained a rich cultural heritage complete with feasts and festivals accompanied by music and dance.]]
Most ancient Egyptians were farmers tied to the land. The dwelling was restricted to immediate family members, and were constructed of mud-brick designed to remain cool in the heat of the day. Each home had a kitchen with an open roof, which contained a grindstone for milling flour and a small oven for baking bread.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 401</ref> Walls were painted white and could be covered with dyed linen wall hangings. Floors were covered with reed mats, and wooden stools, beds raised from the floor, and individual tables comprised the furniture.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 403</ref>

The ancient Egyptians placed a great value on hygiene and appearance. Most bathed in the Nile and used a pasty soap made from animal fat and chalk. Men shaved their entire bodies for cleanliness, and aromatic perfumes and ointments covered bad odors and soothed skin.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 405</ref> Clothing was made from simple linen sheets which were bleached white, and both men and women of the upper classes wore wigs, jewelery, and cosmetics. Children went without clothing until maturity, at about age twelve, and at this age males were circumcised and had their heads shaved. Mothers were responsible for taking care of the children, while the father provided the family's income.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 406–7</ref>

The staple of the diet consisted of bread and beer, supplemented with vegetables such as onions and garlic, and fruit such as dates and figs. Wine and meat were enjoyed on feast days and for the upper classes. Fish, meat, and foul could be salted or dried, and could be cooked in stews or roasted on a grill.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 399–400</ref> Music and dance were popular entertainments for those who could afford them. Early instruments included flutes and harps, while instruments similar to trumpets, oboes, and pipes developed later and became popular. In the New Kingdom, the Egyptians played on bells, cymbals, tambourines, and drums and imported [[lute]]s and [[lyre]]s from Asia.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/furniture/music.html|title=Music in Ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> The [[sistrum]] was a rattle-like musical instrument that was especially important in religious ceremonies.

The ancient Egyptians enjoyed a variety of leisure activities, including games and music. [[Senet]], a board game where pieces moved according to random chance, was particularly popular from the earliest times; another similar game was [[mehen]], which had a circular gaming board. Juggling and ball games were popular with children, and wrestling is also documented in a tomb at [[Beni Hasan]].<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 126</ref> The wealthy members of ancient Egyptian society enjoyed hunting and boating as well.

[[Image:Hatshetsup-temple-1by7.jpg|thumb|right|Hatshepsut's New Kingdom Temple at Dier al-Bahari]]

===Architecture===

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The architecture of ancient Egypt includes some of the most famous structures in the world: the [[Great Pyramids of Giza]], [[Abu Simbel]], and the [[Karnak|temples at Thebes]]. All major building projects were organized and funded by the state, and they not only fulfilled religious, military, and commemorative purposes, but also reinforced the power and reputation of the pharaoh to ensure his legacy for all time. The ancient Egyptians were skilled builders with expert knowledge of basic surveying and construction techniques. Using simple but effective measuring ropes, plum bobs, and sighting instruments, architects could build large stone structures with accuracy and precision.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 94–7</ref>

Most buildings in ancient Egypt were constructed from perishable materials such as mud bricks and wood, and have not survived. Important structures such as temples and tombs were intended to last forever and were instead constructed of stone. The first large scale stone building in the world, the mortuary complex of [[Djoser]], was built in the Third Dynasty as a stone imitation of the mud-brick and wooden structures used in daily life.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 136</ref>
[[Image:Hypostyle hall, Karnak temple.jpg|thumb|upright|left|Karnak temple's hypostyle halls are constructed with rows of thick columns supporting the roof beams.]]
The architectural elements used in Djoser's mortuary complex, including [[post and lintel]] construction of huge stone roof blocks supported by external walls and closely spaced columns, would be copied many times in Egyptian history. Decorative styles introduced in the Old Kingdom, such as the lotus and papyrus motifs, are a recurring theme in ancient Egyptian architecture.<ref>Stierlin (1995) p. 19</ref>

The earliest tomb architecture in ancient Egypt was the [[mastaba]], a flat-roofed rectangular structure of mudbrick or stone built over an underground burial chamber. The mastaba was the most popular tomb among the nobility in the Old Kingdom, and the first pyramid, the [[step pyramid]] of Djoser, is actually a series of stone mastabas stacked on top of each other. The step pyramid was itself the inspiration for the first true pyramids. Pyramids were built by the pharaohs of the Old and Middle Kingdoms, but later rulers abandoned them in favor of less conspicuous rock-cut tombs.<ref>Dodson (1991) p. 23</ref> New Kingdom pharaohs built their rock-cut tombs in the [[Valley of the Kings]], and by the Third Intermediate Period, the pharaohs had abandoned building grand tomb architecture altogether.

The earliest preserved ancient Egyptian temples, dating back to the Old Kingdom, consist of single, enclosed halls with roof slabs supported by columns. The mortuary temples connected to the pyramids at Giza are examples of this early temple. During the Fifth Dynasty, pharaohs developed the sun temple, the focus of which was a squat, pyramid-shaped [[obelisk]] known as a ben-ben stone. The ben-ben stone and other temple structures were surrounded by an outer wall and connected to the Nile via a causeway terminating in a valley temple. In the New Kingdom, architects added the [[pylon (architecture)|pylon]], the open courtyard, and the enclosed [[hypostyle]] hall to the front of the temple's sanctuary. Because the common people were not allowed past the entry pylon, the deity residing in the inner sanctuary was distanced from the outside world. This type of cult temple was standardly used until the Ptolemaic and Roman Periods.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/temple/typestime.html|title=Types of temples in ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

===Art===

[[Image:Nefertiti 30-01-2006.jpg|thumb|upright|The Bust of Nefertiti, by the sculptor [[Thutmose (sculptor)|Thutmose]], is one of the most famous masterpieces of ancient Egyptian art.]]
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The ancient Egyptians produced art to serve functional purposes rather than to express creative genius. For over 3500 years, artists adhered to artistic forms that were developed during the Old Kingdom, following a strict set of principles that resisted foreign influence and internal change.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 29</ref> These artistic standards—simple lines, shapes, and flat areas of color combined with the characteristic flat projection of figures with no indication of spatial depth—created a sense of order and balance within a composition. The ancient Egyptians made little distinction between images and text, which were intimately interwoven on tomb and temple walls, coffins, stelae, and even statues. This mentality is evident even in the earliest examples of Egyptian art, such as the [[Narmer Palette]], where the figures being depicted may also be read as hieroglyphs.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 21</ref> Because of the rigid rules that governed its highly stylized and symbolic appearance, ancient Egyptian art served its political and religious purposes with precision and clarity.<ref>Robins (2001) p. </ref>

Pharaohs used [[reliefs]] carved on [[stelae]], temple walls, and obelisks to record victories in battle, royal decrees, and religious scenes. These art forms glorified the pharaoh, recorded that ruler's version of historical events, and established the relationship between the Egyptians and their deities. Common citizens had access to pieces of funerary art, such as [[shabti]] statues and books of the dead, which they believed would protect them in the afterlife.<ref>James (2005) p. 122</ref> During the Middle Kingdom, wooden or clay models depicting scenes from everyday life became popular additions to the tomb. In an attempt to duplicate the activities of the living in the afterlife, these models show laborers, houses, boats, and even military formations that are scale representations of the ideal ancient Egyptian afterlife.<ref>Robinson (1998) p. 74</ref>

During the turbulent times of the Late Period, artists—or more likely their patrons—sought to reinforce continuity with their historical predecessors and enhance their political legitimacy by adopting an "archaising" style.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 212</ref> Copying the unique style of the Old Kingdom, artists carved statues and reliefs that are sometimes indistinguishable from objects created some two thousand years earlier. In this Saite style, poses, hairstyles, musculature, and composition were heavily influenced from the past. Artists did have some room for innovation, however, as they adapted historic themes and patterns to Late Period uses.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 212</ref>

Despite the homogeneity of ancient Egyptian art, the styles of particular times and places sometimes reflected changing cultural or political attitudes. After the invasion of the Hyksos in the Second Intermediate Period, Minoan style frescoes were found in Avaris, suggesting political and cultural connections with Crete.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 216</ref> The most striking example, however, comes from the Amarna period, where the appearance of the royal figure and artistic subject matter were radically altered to conform to [[Akhenaten]]'s revolutionary religious ideas.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 149</ref> In [[Amarna art]], The pharaoh was depicted with swelling thighs and an oblong head in shocking contrast to traditional motifs. There is no secure explanation why Akhenaten allowed himself to be portrayed in this fashion, but he may have been trying to show himself with both male and female characteristics. The standard religious scenes were replaced by those of the royal family worshipping the [[Aten]], which, along with Akhenaten himself, had become the central focus of the new religion. After Akhenaten's death, the new art forms and religion were quickly and thoroughly erased, replaced by the traditional forms.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 158</ref>

===Religious beliefs===

[[Image:BD Hunefer.jpg|thumb|300px|The book of the dead was a guide to the deceased's journey in the afterlife.]]
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Beliefs in the divine and in the afterlife were ingrained in the ancient Egyptian civilization from its inception; pharaonic rule was based upon the doctrine of the [[divine right of kings]]. The Egyptian pantheon was populated by a diverse array of gods who had supernatural, though sometimes limited, powers and were called upon for help or protection. However, the gods were not always viewed as benevolent, and Egyptians believed they had to be appeased with offerings and prayers. The structure of this pantheon changed continually as new deities were promoted in the hierarchy, but priests made no effort to organize the diverse and sometimes conflicting creation myths and stories into a coherent system.<ref>James (2005) p. 102</ref>

Officially, the gods were worshiped in cult temples by priests acting on the king's behalf. At the center of the temple, the cult statue of the god was placed in a shrine where the god could manifest himself. Temples were not places of public worship or congregation, and only on select feast days and celebrations would a shrine carrying the statue of the god be brought out for public worship. Normally, the god's domain was sealed off from the outside world and was only accessible to temple officials; common citizens seeking a more direct interaction with the gods could worship private statues and [[stelae]] in the home, and amulets offered continuous, personal protection against the forces of chaos.<ref>James (2005) p. 117</ref><ref>Andrews (1994) p. 6</ref>

[[Image:Ka Statue of horawibra.jpg|thumb|upright|left|The Ka statue provided a physical place for the Ka to manifest.]]
After the New Kingdom, the pharaoh's connection to the divine, and thus his role as a spiritual intermediary, were de-emphasized as religious customs shifted to direct worship of the gods. As a result, priests developed a system of [[oracles]] to communicate the will of the gods directly to the people.<ref> Shaw (2002) p. 313</ref> An oracle could be a statue of the god which could be asked a yes or no question, to which it would "respond" by hidden manipulations of a priest; the priests could also pose questions to the oracle behind closed doors. Oracles became very popular for appealing legal verdicts or for justifying military actions and political decisions.<ref> Shaw (2002) p. 313</ref>

The Egyptians believed that every human being was composed of physical and spiritual parts, called ''aspects''. In addition to the body, each person had a ''šwt'' (shadow), a ''ba'' (personality or soul), a ''ka'' (life-force), and a ''name''.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 79, 94–5</ref> The heart, rather than the brain, was considered the seat of thoughts and emotions. After death, the spiritual aspects were released from the body and could move at will, but they required the physical remains (or a substitute, such as a statue) as a permanent home. The ultimate goal of the deceased was to rejoin his ''ka'' and ''ba'' and become one of the "blessed dead", living on as an ''akh'', or "effective one". In order for this to happen, the deceased had to be judged worthy in a trial, in which the heart was weighed against a "feather of truth". If deemed worthy, the deceased could continue their existence on earth in spiritual form.<ref>Wasserman, ''et al'' (1994) p. 150–3</ref>

===Burial customs===

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[[Image:Anubis attending the mummy of Sennedjem.jpg|thumb|Anubis was the ancient Egyptian god associated with mummification and burial rituals; here, he attends to a mummy.]]
The ancient Egyptians maintained an elaborate set of burial customs that they believed were necessary to ensure immortality after death. These customs involved preserving the body by [[mummification]], performing burial ceremonies, and interring, along with the body, goods to be used by the deceased in the afterlife.<ref>James (2005) p. 122</ref>

Before the Old Kingdom, bodies buried in desert pits were naturally preserved by [[desiccation]]. The arid, desert conditions continued to be a boon throughout the history of ancient Egypt for the burials of the poor, who could not afford the elaborate burial preparations available to the elite. However, many wealthier Egyptians lost the advantage of natural mummification by the desert when they began to bury their dead in stone tombs. As a result, the wealthy elite of the Old and Middle Kingdoms began to make use of artificial mummification, which involved removing the internal organs, wrapping the body in linen, coating it with plaster or resin, and sometimes painting or sculpting facial details. The body was then buried in a rectangular stone sarcophagus or wooden coffin. Beginning in the Fourth Dynasty, the [[intestine]]s, [[lung]]s, [[liver]], and [[stomach]] were preserved separately in [[canopic jars]] and symbolically protected by likenesses of the [[Four sons of Horus]].<ref> {{cite web|url= http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/mummy/ok.html|title=Mummies and Mummification: Old Kingdom|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

[[Image:tutmask.jpg|thumb|upright|left|Pharaohs' tombs were provided with vast quantities of wealth, such as this golden mask from the mummy of [[Tutankhamun]].]]
By the New Kingdom, the ancient Egyptians had perfected the art of mummification; the best technique took 70 days and involved removing the internal organs, removing the brain through the nose, and desiccating the body in a mixture of salts called [[natron]]. The body was then wrapped in linen with protective amulets inserted between layers and placed in a decorated anthropoid coffin. Mummies of the Late Period were also placed in painted [[cartonnage]] mummy cases. Actual preservation practices declined during the Ptolemaic and Roman eras, while greater emphasis was placed on the outer appearance of the mummy, which was decorated with elaborate rhomboidal patterns formed by the wrapping bandages.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/mummy/late.html|title=Mummies and Mummification: Late Period, Ptolemaic, Roman and Christian Period |accessdate=2008-03-09 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

Wealthy members of society were buried with larger quantities of luxury items and furniture, but all burials, regardless of social status, included goods for the deceased, such as food and jewelry. Beginning in the New Kingdom, [[book of the dead|books of the dead]] were included in the grave and contained spells and instructions for protection in the afterlife. New Kingdom Egyptians were also buried with [[shabti]] statues, which they believed would perform manual labor for them in the afterlife.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/burialcustoms/shabtis.html|title=Shabtis|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

All Egyptian burials was accompanied by rituals in which the deceased was magically re-animated. This procedure involved touching the mouth and eyes of the deceased with ceremonial instruments to restore the power of speech, movement, and sight. After burial, living relatives were expected to occasionally bring food to the tomb and recite prayers on behalf of the deceased.<ref>James (2005) p. 124</ref>

==Foreign relations==
===Trade===
The ancient Egyptians engaged in trade with their [[Foreign contacts of Ancient Egypt|foreign neighbors]] to obtain rare, exotic goods not found in Egypt. In the Predynastic Period, they established trade with Nubia to obtain gold and incense. They also established trade with Palestine, as evidenced by Palestinian-style oil jugs found in the burials of the First Dynasty pharaohs.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 72</ref> By the Second Dynasty, the ancient Egyptians had established trade with [[Byblos]], a critical source of quality timber not found in Egypt. In the Fifth Dynasty, trade was established with the [[Land of Punt]], which provided gold, aromatic resins, [[ebony]], [[ivory]], and wild animals such as monkeys and baboons.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 322</ref>

Egypt relied on trade with [[Anatolia]] for essential quantities of tin as well as supplementary supplies of copper, both metals being necessary for the manufacture of [[bronze]]. The ancient Egyptians prized the blue stone [[lapis lazuli]], which had to be imported from far-away [[Afghanistan]]. Egypt's Mediterranean trade partners also included [[ancient Greece|Greece]] and [[Crete]], which provided, among other goods, supplies of olive oil.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 145</ref> In exchange for its luxury imports and raw materials, Egypt mainly exported grain, gold, linen, and papyrus, in addition to other finished goods including glass and stone objects.<ref>Harris (1990) p. 13</ref>

===Military===
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[[Image:Mesehtisoldiers.JPG|thumb|Wooden figures of Egyptian soldiers, from the tomb of Mesehti, 11th Dynasty]]
The ancient Egyptian military was responsible for maintaining Egypt's domination in the ancient Near East. The military protected mining expeditions to the Sinai during the [[Old Kingdom]] and fought civil wars during the First and Second Intermediate Periods. The military was responsible for maintaining fortifications along important trade routes, such as those found at the city of [[Buhen]] on the way to Nubia. Forts also were constructed to serve as military bases, such as the fortress at Sile, which was a base of operations for expeditions to the [[Levant]]. In the New Kingdom, a series of pharaohs used the standing Egyptian army to attack and conquer [[Kush]] and parts of the Levant.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 245</ref>

Typical military equipment included bows and arrows, spears, and round-topped shields made by stretching animal skin over a wooden frame. In the New Kingdom, the military began using [[chariot]]s that were introduced by the Hyksos invaders of the Second Intermediate Period. Weapons and armor continued to improve after the adoption of bronze: shields were now made from solid wood with a bronze buckle, spears were tipped with a bronze point, and a type of scimitar made of bronze, the [[Khopesh]], was adopted from Asian soldiers.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 366–7</ref>

The Egyptian pharaoh was usually depicted in art and literature riding at the head of the army, and there is some evidence that at least a few pharaohs, such as [[Seqenenre Tao II]] and his sons, did in fact do so.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 96 </ref> Soldiers were recruited from the general population, but during, and especially after, the New Kingdom, mercenaries from Nubia, Kush, and Libya were hired to fight for Egypt while under the command of their own officers.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 400</ref>

==Technology, medicine, and mathematics==
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In [[technology]], [[medicine]] and [[mathematics]], ancient Egypt achieved a relatively high standard of productivity and sophistication. Traditional [[empiricism]], as evidenced by the [[Edwin Smith Papyrus|Edwin Smith]] and [[Ebers papyrus|Ebers papyri]] (circa 1600 BC), is first credited to Egypt, and the roots of the [[Scientific method#History|scientific method]] can also be traced back to the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians created their own alphabet and the [[decimal system]], although it is unclear—due to the margin of error in carbon-dating tests—whether the Egyptians were the first to do so.<ref>{{cite web |author= J J O'Connor and E F Robertson| title=An Overview of Egyptian Mathematics | url=http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Egyptian_mathematics.html|accessdate=2008-03-09| publisher=School of Mathematics and Statistics University of St Andrews Scotland}}</ref>
[[Image:Egyptian glass jar.jpg|thumb|left|upright|Glassmaking was a highly developed art.]]
===Faience and glass===
Even before the Old Kingdom, the ancient Egyptians had developed a glassy material known as [[Egyptian faience|faience]], which they treated as a type of artifical semi-precious stone. Faience is a non-clay ceramic made of [[silica]], small amounts of [[Calcium oxide|lime]] and [[Sodium oxide|soda]], and a colorant, typically copper.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 177</ref> The material was used to make beads, tiles, figurines, and small wares. Several different methods can be used to create faience, but typically production would involve application of the powdered materials in the form of a paste over a clay core which is then fired. By a related technique, the ancient Egyptians produced a pigment known as [[Egyptian Blue]], also called blue frit, which is produced by fusing (or [[sintering]]) silica, copper, lime, and an alkali such as natron. The product can be ground up and used as a pigment.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 109</ref> The ancient Egyptians could fabricate a wide variety of objects from [[glass]] with great skill, but it is not clear whether they developed the process independently.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 195</ref> It is also not clear whether they ever made their own raw glass or merely imported pre-made ingots which
they melted and finished, however they did have technical expertise in making different kinds of objects as well as adding trace elements to control the color of the finished glass. A range of colors could be produced, including yellow, red, green, blue, purple, and white, and the glass could be made either transparent or opaque.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 215</ref>

===Medicine===
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[[Image:Prosthetic toe.jpg|thumb|This wood and leather prosthetic toe was used by an amputee to facilitate walking.]]
The medical problems of the ancient Egyptians stemmed directly from their environment. Living and working close to the Nile brought hazards from [[malaria]] and debilitating [[schistosomiasis]] parasites, which caused liver and intestinal damage. Dangerous wildlife such as [[crocodiles]] and [[hippos]] were also a common threat. The life-long labors of farming and building put stress on the spine and joints, and traumatic injuries from construction and warfare all took a significant toll on ancient Egyptians. The grit and sand from stone-ground flour abraded teeth, leaving them susceptible to [[abcess]]es (though [[dental caries|caries]] were rare).<ref>Filer (1995) p. 94</ref> The diets of the wealthy were rich in sugars, which promoted [[periodontal disease]].<ref>Filer (1995) p. 78–80</ref> Despite the flattering physiques portrayed on tomb walls, the overweight mummies of many of the upper class show the effects of a life of overindulgence.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 21</ref> Life expectancy was about 35 for men and 30 for women, but reaching adulthood was difficult as about one-third of the population died in infancy.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 25</ref>

Ancient Egyptian physicians were renowned in the ancient Near East for their healing skills.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 39</ref> [[Medical papyri]] show that they performed thorough examinations and treated patients using a combination of prayers, protective amulets, and remedies derived from natural products. Wounds were treated by bandaging with raw meat, honey was used to prevent infection, and opium was used to relieve pain. Garlic and onions were used regularly to promote good health and were thought to relieve [[asthma]] symptoms. Ancient Egyptian surgeons stitched wounds, set broken bones, and amputated diseased limbs, but they recognized that some injuries were so serious that they could only make the patient comfortable until he died.<ref>{{citeweb|url=http://touregypt.net/edwinsmithsurgical.htm|title=Edwin Smith Surgical Papyrus Translation|accessdate=2008-03-01}}</ref>

===Mathematics===
Texts such as the [[Rhind Mathematical Papyrus]] and the [[Berlin Papyrus]] show that the ancient Egyptians could perform the four basic mathematical operations—addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division—use fractions, compute the volumes of boxes and pyramids, and calculate the surface areas of rectangles, triangles, circles and even spheres. They understood basic concepts of [[algebra]] and [[geometry]], and could solve simple sets of [[simultaneous equations]].<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 222</ref> Mathematics were always used for practical purposes, such as calculating food rations, building supplies, or the labor force necessary for a project.

Mathematics notation was decimal, and based on hieroglyphic signs for each power of ten up to one million. The symbol was written as many times as necessary to add up to the desired number, so to write the number eighty, the symbol for ten was written eight times.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 217</ref> Because ancient Egyptian methods of calculation could not handle fractions with a numerator greater than one, these types of fractions had to be written out as the sum of several fractions. For example, the fraction {{frac|2|5}} was always resolved into the sum of {{frac|1|3}} + {{frac|1|15}}. Such conversions were facilitated by standard tables of values.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 218</ref>

The ancient Egyptians had no concept of [[pi]] and never made any efforts to calculate it, but they could approximate the area of a circle using a simple formula, which was to subtract {{frac|1|9}} of the diameter and square the result. In modern notation, this would be expressed as Area ≈ [({{frac|8|9}})D]2.<ref>Jurgensen ''et. al.'' (1972) p. 52</ref> Additionally, the [[golden ratio]] seems to be reflected in many Egyptian constructions, including the [[Egyptian pyramids|pyramids]],<ref name=phi>{{cite web|url=http://mtcs.truman.edu/~thammond/history/EgyptianPyramids.html|title=The Egyptian Pyramids - Mathematics and the Liberal Arts|publisher=Truman State University|accessdate=2008-03-09}}</ref> but its use may have been an unintended consequence of the ancient Egyptian practice of combining the use of knotted ropes with an intuitive sense of proportion and harmony.<ref>Kemp (1989) p. 138</ref>

==Legacy and rediscovery==
The culture and monuments of ancient Egypt have left a lasting legacy on the world. The cult of the goddess [[Isis]], for example, became popular in the [[Roman empire]], as obelisks and other relics were transported back to Rome.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 8</ref> The Romans also imported building materials from Egypt to erect structures in Egyptian style. Early historians such as [[Herodotus]], [[Strabo]], [[Diodorus Siculus]] and [[Pliny the Elder]] were fascinated by Egypt and studied and wrote about the land which became viewed as a place full of arcane mysteries and ruined monuments.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 10</ref> As the traditional establishments in Egypt were disbanded by early Christians, the authentic knowledge of Egyptian history was displaced by second-hand accounts and the invented stories of tourists and treasure-seekers.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 13</ref>

[[Image:Egypt.ZahiHawass.01.jpg|thumb|Dr. [[Zahi Hawass]] is the current secretary general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities.]]
Interest in Egypt was re-awakened by European travellers of the 17th and 18th centuries, who brought back antiquities and wrote stories of their journeys. Such published accounts stimulated a wave of "[[Egyptomania]]" which swept across Europe, as all things Egyptian came into vogue. This renewed interest sent a surge of travellers and museum collectors into Egypt, who took, purchased, or were given many important antiquities.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 13</ref> Although the greedy motives of many
collectors destroyed a significant portion of the country's historical legacy, some foreigners had more noble motives. [[Napoleon]], for example, arranged the first scientific studies in [[egyptology]] when he brought some 150 scientists and artists to study and document Egypt's natural history, which was published in the ''Description de l'Ėgypte'', a work of more than 7000 pages and 3000 drawings.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 100</ref> The decipherment of hieroglyphs in 1822 allowed the history of ancient Egypt, written in their own words, to be rediscovered and understood.

Since the 19th century, the Egyptian Government and archaeologists alike have begun to recognize the importance of cultural respect and integrity in excavations. The [[Supreme Council of Antiquities]] now approves and oversees all excavations, which are aimed at finding information rather than treasure. The council also supervises museums and monument reconstruction programs, which are designed to preserve and share the historical legacy of ancient Egypt for all.

==See also==
{{commonscat|Ancient Egypt}}{{portal}}
<div style="-moz-column-count:2; column-count:2;">
*[[Egypt]]
*[[History of Egypt]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian architecture|Architecture of ancient Egypt]]
*[[Art of Ancient Egypt]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian burial customs]]
*[[Racial characteristics of ancient Egyptians]]
*[[Egyptian Museum]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian religion]]
*[[Egyptians]]
*[[Egypt in the European imagination]]
*[[Egyptology]]
*[[List of Ancient Egyptians]]
*[[List of Ancient Egyptian sites|List of Ancient Egyptian Sites]]
*[[List of pharaohs]]
</div>

==Notes and references==
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===External links===
*[http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/ Ancient Egypt] – maintained by the [[British Museum]], this site provides a useful introduction to Ancient Egypt for older children and young adolescents
*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/ BBC History: Egyptians] – provides a reliable general overview and further links
*Ancient records of Egypt; historical documents from the earliest times to the Persian conquest. [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc00/breanc00.html Volume I: The first to seventeenth dynasties], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc01/breanc01.html Volume II: The eighteenth dynasty], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc02/breanc02.html Volume III: The nineteenth dynasty], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc03/breanc03.html Volume IV], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc04/breanc04.html Volume V], by James Henry Breasted (1906) – A reference work on Egyptology.
*[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN&id=qeApebusL_0C&dq=PtahHotep&as_brr=1&hl=nl Texts from the Pyramid Age Door Nigel C. Strudwick, Ronald J. Leprohon, 2005, Brill Academic Publishers]
*[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN&id=9ToLAAAAIAAJ&dq=PtahHotep&as_brr=1&hl=nl Ancient Egyptian Science: A Source Book Door Marshall Clagett, 1989]
*[http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/ Digital Egypt for Universities.] Outstanding scholarly treatment with broad coverage and excellent cross references (internal and external). Artifacts used extensively to illustrate topics.
*[http://www.aldokkan.com/science/metallurgy.htm Ancient Egyptian Metallurgy] A site that shows the history of Egyptian [[metalworking]]
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Ancient Egypt

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[[Image:All Gizah Pyramids.jpg|thumb|250px|The pyramids are the most recognizable symbols of the civilization of ancient Egypt.]]
[[Image:Ancient Egypt map.svg|thumb|200px|Map of ancient Egypt, showing major cities and sites of the Dynastic period (c. 3150 BC to 30 BC).]]
'''Ancient Egypt''' was a [[civilization]] in eastern [[North Africa]] concentrated along the middle to lower reaches of the [[Nile River]] in what is now the modern nation of [[Egypt]]. The civilization began around 3150 BC with the political unification of [[Upper and Lower Egypt]] under the first [[pharaoh]], and it developed over the next
three millennia.<ref>Dodson (2004) p. 46</ref> Its history is divided into a series of stable periods, known as Kingdoms, that are separated by periods of relative instability known as Intermediate Periods. After the end of the last Kingdom, known as the [[New Kingdom]], the civilization of
ancient Egypt entered a period of slow, steady decline, during which Egypt was conquered by a succession of foreign powers. The rule of the pharaohs officially ended in 31 BC when the early [[Roman Empire]] conquered [[Ptolemaic Egypt|Egypt]] and made it a province.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 217</ref>

The civilization of ancient Egypt thrived from adaptation to the conditions of the [[Nile River Valley]]. Controlled irrigation of the fertile valley produced surplus crops which fueled social development and culture. With resource to spare, the administration sponsored mineral exploitation of the valley and surrounding desert regions, the early development of an independent [[Egyptian hieroglyphs|writing system]], the organization of collective construction and agricultural projects, [[trade]] with surrounding regions, a== FUCK ==nd a [[military]] that defeated foreign enemies and asserted Egyptian dominance. Motivating and organizing these activities was a bureaucracy of elite scribes, religious leaders, and administrators under the control of the divine pharaoh who ensured the cooperation and unity of the Egyptian people by means of an elaborate system of [[Ancient Egyptian religion|religious beliefs]].<ref>James (2005) p. 8</ref><ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 6–7</ref>

The many achievements of the ancient Egyptians include a system of mathematics, quarrying, surveying, and construction techniques which facilitated the building of monumental pyramids, temples, and obelisks, [[faience]] and glass technology, a practical and effective system of medicine, new forms of [[Ancient Egyptian literature|literature]], irrigation systems and agricultural production techniques, and the earliest known peace treaty.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 153</ref> Egypt left a lasting legacy: antiquities were moved and art and architecture copied all around the world, and monumental ruins have inspired
the imaginations of tourists and writers for centuries. With the translation of hieroglyphs and a newfound respect for antiquities and excavations, the once-lost cultural heritage of the ancient Egyptians can once again be understood.<ref>James (2005) p. 84</ref>

== History ==
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{{main|History of ancient Egypt|History of Egypt}}

By the late [[Paleolithic]] period, the arid climate of northern Africa had become increasingly hot and dry, forcing the populations of the area to concentrate along the Nile valley, and since nomadic hunter-gatherers began living in the region during the Pleistocene some 1.8 million years ago, the Nile has been the lifeline of Egypt.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 17</ref> The fertile floodplain of the Nile gave humans the opportunity to develop a settled agricultural economy and a more sophisticated, centralized society that became a cornerstone in the history of human civilization.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 17, 67–69</ref>

===Predynastic Period===

By about 5500 BC, small tribes living in the Nile valley had developed into a series of unique cultures demonstrating firm control of agriculture and [[animal husbandry]] and identifiable by their unique pottery and personal items, such as combs, bracelets, and beads. The largest of these early cultures in upper Egypt, the [[Badari]], was known for its high quality ceramics, stone tools, and its use of copper.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/badari/info.html|title=The Badarian Civilisation|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Their burials, simple pit graves with signs of social stratification, suggest that the culture was coming under the control of more powerful leaders.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 39</ref>

In southern Egypt, the [[Predynastic Egypt|Naqada culture]], similar in culture to the Badari, began to expand along the Nile by about 4000 BC. Over a period of about 1000 years, the Naqada culture developed from a few small farming communities into a powerful civilization whose leaders were in complete control of the people and resources of the Nile valley.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/naqadan/chronology.html#naqadaI|title=Chronology of the Naqada Period|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Establishing a power center at [[Hierakonpolis]], and later at [[Abydos, Egypt|Abydos]], Naqada leaders expanded their control of Egypt northwards along the Nile and engaged in trade with [[Nubia]], the oases of the western desert, and the cultures of the eastern Mediterranean.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 61</ref>

The Naqada culture manufactured a diverse array of material goods, reflective of the increasing power and wealth of the elite, which included painted pottery, high quality decorative stone vases, cosmetic palettes, and jewelry made of gold, lapis, and ivory. They also developed a ceramic glaze known as [[Egyptian faience|faience]] which was used well into the Roman Period to decorate cups, amulets, and figurines.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/faience/periods.html|title=Faience in different Periods|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> During the last phase of the predynastic, the Naqada culture began using written symbols which would eventually evolve into a full system of hieroglyphs for writing the ancient Egyptian language.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1</ref>

===Early Dynastic Period===
[[Image:NarmerPalette ROM-gamma.jpg|thumb|The [[Narmer Palette]] depicts the unification of the Two Lands.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 32</ref>]]
The ancient Egyptians chose to begin their official history with a king named "Meni" (or [[Menes]] in Greek) who they believed had united the two kingdoms of [[Upper Egypt|Upper]] and [[Lower Egypt]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 78–80</ref> The transition to a unified state actually happened more gradually than the ancient Egyptian writers would have us believe, and there is no contemporary record of Menes. Scholars now believe, however, that the mythical Menes may have actually been the pharaoh Narmer, who is depicted wearing royal regalia on the ceremonial [[Narmer Palette]] in a symbolic act of unification.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 12–13</ref> The third century BC Egyptian priest [[Manetho]] grouped the lengthy line of pharaohs following Menes into 30 dynasties, a system still in use today.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 6</ref>

In the early dynastic period about 3150 BC, the first pharaohs solidified their control over lower Egypt by establishing a capital at [[Memphis, Egypt|Memphis]], from which they could control the labor force and agriculture of the fertile delta region as well as the lucrative and critical trade routes to the Levant. The increasing power and wealth of the pharaohs during the early dynastic period was reflected in their elaborate [[mastaba]] tombs and mortuary cult structures at Abydos which were used to celebrate the deified pharaoh after his death.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 70</ref> The strong institution of kingship developed by the pharaohs served to legitimize state control over the land, labor, and resources that were essential to the survival and growth of ancient Egyptian civilization.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/archaicegypt/info.html|title=Early Dynastic Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

===Old Kingdom===
[[Image:MenkauraAndQueen MuseumOfFineArtsBoston.png|thumb|upright|[[Menkaura]] and his consort Queen Khamerernebty II]]
Stunning advances in architecture, art, and technology were made during Old Kingdom, fueled by the increased agricultural productivity made possible by a well developed central administration.<ref>James (2005) p. 40</ref> Under the direction of the [[vizier]], state officials collected taxes, coordinated irrigation projects to improve crop yield, drafted peasants to work on construction projects, and established a justice system to maintain peace and order.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 102</ref> With the surplus resources made available by a productive and stable economy, the state was able to sponsor construction of colossal monuments and to commission exceptional works of art from the royal workshops. The pyramids built by [[Djoser]], [[Khufu]], and their descendants are the most memorable symbols of ancient Egyptian civilization, and power of the pharaohs that controlled it.

Along with the rising importance of a central administration arose a new class of educated scribes and officials who were granted estates by the pharaoh in payment for their services. Pharaohs also made land grants to their mortuary cults and local temples to ensure that these institutions would have the necessary resources to worship the pharaoh after his death. By the end of the Old Kingdom, five centuries of these feudal practices had slowly eroded the economic power of the pharaoh, who could no longer afford to support a large centralized administration.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 116–7</ref> As the power of the pharaoh diminished, regional governors called [[nomarch]]s began to challenge the supremacy of the pharaoh which, coupled with [[22nd century BC drought|severe droughts]] between 2200 and 2150 BC,<ref>{{citeweb|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/apocalypse_egypt_04.shtml |title=The Fall of the Old Kingdom |author=Fekri Hassan|publisher=British Broadcasting Corporation|accessdate=2008-03-10}}</ref> ultimately caused the country to enter a 140-year period of famine and strife known as the First Intermediate Period.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 69</ref>

===First Intermediate Period===
After Egypt's central government collapsed at the end of the Old Kingdom, the administration could no longer support or stabilize the country's economy. Regional governors could not rely on the king for help in times of crisis, and the ensuing food shortages and political disputes escalated into famines and small scale civil wars. Yet despite difficult problems, local leaders, owing no tribute to the pharaoh, used their newfound independence to establish a thriving culture in the provinces. Once in control of their own resources, the provinces became economically richer—a fact demonstrated by larger and better burials among all social classes.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 120</ref> In bursts of creativity, provincial artisans adopted and adapted cultural motifs formerly restricted to the royalty of the Old Kingdom, and scribes developed literary styles which expressed the optimism and originality of the period.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 146</ref>

Free from their loyalties to the pharaoh, local rulers began competing with each other for territorial control and political power. By 2160 BC, rulers in Hierakonpolis controlled Lower Egypt while a rival clan based in [[Thebes, Egypt|Thebes]], under the name Intef, took control of Upper Egypt. As the Intefs grew in power and expanded their control northward, a clash between the two rival dynasties became inevitable. Around 2055 BC the Theban forces under [[Mentuhotep II|Nebhepetre Mentuhotep II]] finally defeated the Herakleopolitan rulers, reuniting the Two Lands and inaugurating a period of economic and cultural renaissance known as the Middle Kingdom.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 29</ref>

===Middle Kingdom===
[[Image:Mentuhotep Seated edit.jpg|thumb|upright|Mentuhotep II, the founder of the Middle Kingdom]]
The pharaohs of the Middle Kingdom restored the country's prosperity and stability, thereby stimulating a resurgence of art, literature, and monumental building projects.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 148</ref> Mentuhotep II and his 11th Dynasty successors ruled from Thebes, but the vizier [[Amenemhet I]], upon assuming kingship at the beginning of the 12th Dynasty around 1985 BC, shifted the nation's capital to the city of [[Itjtawy]] located in [[Faiyum Governorate|Faiyum]].<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 79</ref> From Itjtawy, the pharaohs of the 12th Dynasty undertook a far-sighted land reclamation and irrigation scheme to increase agricultural output in the region. Moreover, the military reconquered territory in Nubia rich in quarries and gold mines, while laborers built a defensive structure in the Eastern Delta, called the "[[Walls-of-the-Ruler]]", to defend against foreign attack.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 158</ref>

Having secured military and political security and vast agricultural and mineral wealth, the nation's population, arts, and religion flourished. In contrast to elitist Old Kingdom attitudes towards the gods, the Middle Kingdom experienced an increase in expressions of personal piety and what could be called a [[democratization]] of the afterlife, in which all people possessed a soul and could be welcomed into the company of the gods after death.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 179–82</ref> Middle Kingdom literature featured sophisticated themes and characters written in a confident, eloquent style,<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 146</ref> and the [[relief]] and portrait sculpture of the period captured
subtle, individual details that reached new heights of technical perfection.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 90</ref>

The last great ruler of the Middle Kingdom, [[Amenemhat III]], allowed Asiatic settlers into the delta region to provide a sufficient labor force for his especially active mining and building campaigns. These ambitious building and mining activities, however, combined with inadequate [[Flooding of the Nile|Nile floods]] later in his reign, strained the economy and precipitated the slow decline into the Second Intermediate Period during the later 13th and 14th dynasties. It was during this decline that the foreign Asiatic settlers began to seize control of the delta region, eventually coming to power in Egypt as the [[Hyksos]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 188</ref>

===Second Intermediate Period and the Hyksos===
Around 1650 BC, as the power of the Middle Kingdom pharaohs weakened, Asiatic immigrants living in the Eastern Delta town of [[Avaris]] seized control of the region and forced the central government to retreat to Thebes, where the pharaoh was treated as a vassal and expected to pay tribute.<ref>Ryholt (1997) p. 310</ref> The Hyksos ("foreign rulers"), imitated Egyptian models of government and portrayed themselves as pharaohs, thus integrating Egyptian elements into their [[Middle Bronze Age]] culture.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 189</ref>

After their retreat, the Theban kings found themselves trapped between the Hyksos to the north and the Hyksos' Nubian allies, the [[Kushite]]s, to the south. Nearly 100 years of tenuous inaction followed, and it was not until 1555 BC that the Theban forces finally gathered enough strength to challenge the Hyksos in a conflict that would last more than 30 years.<ref>Ryholt (1997) p. 310</ref> The pharaohs [[Seqenenre Tao II]] and [[Kamose]] were ultimately able to defeat the Nubians, but it was Kamose's successor, [[Ahmose I]], who successfully waged a series of campaigns that permanently eradicated the Hyksos' presence in Egypt. In the New Kingdom that followed, the military became a central priority for the pharaohs seeking to expand Egypt’s borders and secure her complete dominance of the [[Near East]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 224</ref>

[[Image:Egypt 1450 BC.svg|upright|thumb|left|The maximum territorial extent of Ancient Egypt (15th century BC)]]

===New Kingdom===
The pharaohs of the New Kingdom used military force to expand the country's borders and defeat its enemies. Campaigns waged under [[Tuthmosis I]] and his grandson [[Tuthmosis III]] extended the influence of the pharaohs into Syria and Nubia and commanded obedience and tribute from these neighbors. Strengthened diplomatic connections between the major Near East powers cemented loyalties among Egypt's allies and opened access to critical imports such as [[bronze]], wood, and luxuries.<ref>James (2005) p. 48</ref>

With prosperity secured, the New Kingdom pharaohs began an impressive building campaign to promote the newly ordained state god, [[Amun]], whose growing cult was based in [[Karnak]] at Thebes. In addition to commemorating Amun, the pharaohs of the New Kingdom also prolifically built monuments to glorify their own achievements, both real and imagined. The female pharaoh [[Hatshepsut]] used such propaganda to legitimize her claim to the throne over her nephew-stepson Tuthmosis III, who was then a child.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/chronology/hatshepsut.html |title=Hatshepsut|accessdate=2007-12-09 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> Despite Hatshepsut's successful reign—which included launching trading expeditions to [[Land of Punt|Punt]], building an elegant mortuary temple, and erecting a colossal pair of obelisks and a chapel at Karnak temple—Tuthmosis III eventually erased the legacy of this female pharaoh and usurper near the end of his reign.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 108</ref>

[[Image:HouseAltar-AkhenatenNefertitiAndThreeOfTheirDaughters.png|thumb|Akhenaten and family receiving life from the rays of the Aten]]
In 1350 BC, the New Kingdom's prosperous expansion, construction, and accumulation of wealth, established over a period of nearly 200 years, was briefly jeopardized when Amenhotep IV unexpectedly ascended the throne and instituted a series of radical and chaotic reforms. Changing his name to [[Akhenaten]], he touted the previously obscure god [[Aten]] as the supreme deity, suppressed the worship of other deities, and attacked the power of the entrenched priestly establishment.<ref>Aldred (1988) p. 259</ref> Moving the capital to the new city of Akhetaten (modern-day [[Amarna]]), Akhenaten turned a deaf ear to foreign affairs and absorbed himself in his new religion and artistic style. After his death, the cult of the Aten was quickly abandoned, and the subsequent pharaohs [[Tutankhamun]], [[Aye]], and [[Horemheb]] quietly erased all mention of Akhenaten's heresy, now known as the [[Amarna Period]].<ref>Cline (2001) p. 273</ref>

[[Image:SFEC EGYPT ABUSIMBEL 2006-003.JPG|thumb|left|upright|Four colossal statues of [[Ramesses II]] flank the entrance of his temple [[Abu Simbel]].]]
The 18th Dynasty ended when its last three kings—Tutankhamun, Aye, and Horemheb—all died without an heir. The throne then passed to the military man [[Ramesses I]], who founded the 19th Dynasty. His grandson [[Ramesses II]], also known as Ramesses the Great, ascended the throne around 1279 BC at the age of 18 and built more temples, erected more statues and obelisks, and sired more children than any other pharaoh in history.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 146</ref> A bold military leader, Ramesses II led his army against the Hittites in the [[Battle of Kadesh]] and, after fighting to a stalemate, eventually concluded the first recorded peace treaty in 1258 BC.<ref>Tyldesley (2001) p. 76–7</ref> Despite this temporary peace, however, internal struggles and foreign threats would again challenge the prosperity of the region.<ref>James (2005) p. 54</ref>

Egypt's wealth made it a tempting target for invasion, and the pharaohs of the late New Kingdom were repeatedly challenged by the [[Ancient Libya|Libyans]] and a coalition of Asiatics known as the [[Sea Peoples]]. Initially, the military was able to repel these invasions, but Egypt eventually lost control of Syria and Palestine. The impact of external threats was exacerbated by internal problems of the kingdom: corruption within the administration, theft from the royal tombs in the [[Valley of the Kings]], civil unrest, and political intrigue undermined the unity of the country and the authority of the pharaoh. During the New Kingdom, the high priests at the [[Precinct of Amun-Re|temple of Amun]] in Thebes had accumulated vast tracts of land and wealth, and their growing power splintered the country during the Third Intermediate Period.<ref>James (2005) p. 54</ref>

===Third Intermediate Period===
[[Image:Third Intermediate Period map.svg|thumb|upright|Around 730 BC Libyans from the west and other political factions had fractured the political unity of country.]]
Following the death of [[Ramesses XI]], [[Smendes]] assumed authority over the northern part of Egypt, ruling from the city of [[Tanis, Egypt|Tanis]]. The southern part was effectively controlled by the [[High Priests of Amun at Thebes]], who recognized Smendes in name and title only.<ref>Cerny (1975) p. 645</ref> During this time, Libyans had been settling in the western delta, and chieftains of these settlers began increasing their autonomy. Libyan princes took control of the delta under Sheshonq I in 945 founding the so-called Libyan or Bubastite dynasty which would rule for some 200 years. Sheshonq also gained control of southern Egypt by placing his family members in important priestly positions. Libyan control began to erode as a rival dynasty arose in Leontopolis, and Kushites threatened from the south. Around 727 BC the Kushite king Piankhi invaded northward, seizing control of Thebes and eventually the Delta.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 345</ref>

Egypt's far-reaching prestige declined considerably by the end of the Third Intermediate Period. Her foreign allies had fallen under the [[Assyria]]n sphere of influence, and by 700 BC war between the two states became inevitable. Between 671 and 667 BC the Assyrians began their attack on Egypt. The reigns of both [[Taharqa]] and his successor, [[Tanutamun]], were filled with constant conflict with the Assyrians, against whom Egypt enjoyed several victories. Ultimately, the Assyrians pushed the Kushites back into Nubia, occupied Memphis, and sacked the temples of Thebes.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 358</ref>

===Late Period===
With no permanent plans for conquest, the Assyrians left control of Egypt to a series of vassals who became known as the Saite kings of the [[Twenty-sixth dynasty of Egypt|Twenty-Sixth Dynasty]]. By 653 BC, the Saite king [[Psamtik I]] was able to oust the Assyrians with the help of Greek mercenaries, who were recruited to form Egypt's first Navy. Greek influence expanded greatly as the city of [[Naukratis]] became the home of Greeks in the delta. The Saite kings based in the new capital of Sais witnessed a brief but spirited resurgence in the economy and culture, but in 525 BC, the powerful Persians, led by [[Cambyses II]], began their conquest of Egypt, eventually capturing the pharaoh Psamtik III at the battle of [[Pelusium]]. Cambyses II then assumed the formal title of pharaoh, but ruled Egypt from his home of [[Susa]], leaving Egypt under the control of a satrapy. A few successful revolts against the Persians marked the 5th century BC, but Egypt was never able to permanently overthrow the Persians.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 383</ref>

Following its annexation by Persia, Egypt was joined with [[Cyprus]] and [[Phoenicia]] in the sixth [[satrap]]y of the [[Achaemenid Dynasty|Achaemenid Persian Empire]]. This first period of Persian rule over Egypt, also known as the Twenty-Seventh dynasty, ended in 402 BC, and from 380–343 BC the [[Thirtieth dynasty of Egypt|Thirtieth Dynasty]] ruled as the last native royal house of Egypt. A brief restoration of Persian rule, sometimes known as the [[Thirty-first dynasty of Egypt|Thirty-First Dynasty]], began in 343 BC, but shortly after, in 332 BC, the Persian ruler Mazaces handed Egypt over to [[Alexander the Great]] without a fight.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 385</ref>

===Ptolemaic Dynasty===
[[Image:Клеопатра VII.jpg|thumb|upright|[[Cleopatra VII]] adopted the ancient traditions and language of Egypt.]]

In 332 BC, Alexander III of [[Macedon]] conquered Egypt with little resistance from the Persians and was welcomed by the Egyptians as a deliverer. The Greek government established by Alexander's successors, the Ptolemies, was based on an Egyptian model and based in the new capital city of [[Alexandria]]. The city was to showcase the power and prestige of Greek rule, and became a seat of learning and culture, centered at the famous [[Library of Alexandria]].<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 405</ref> The [[Lighthouse of Alexandria]] lit the way for the many ships which kept trade flowing through the city, as the Ptolemies made commerce and revenue-generating enterprises, such as papyrus manufacturing, their top priority.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 411</ref>

The Greek culture did not completely supplant the traditional culture, as the Ptolemies supported time-honored traditions in an effort to secure the loyalty of the populace. They built new temples in the Egyptian style, supported the traditional cults, and portrayed themselves as pharaohs. Some
traditions merged, as Greek and Egyptian gods were synthesized into composite deities, such as [[Serapis]], and classical Greek forms of sculpture influenced traditional Egyptian motifs. Despite their efforts to maintain order, the Ptolemies were challenged by rebellion, bitter family rivalries, and the powerful mob of Alexandria.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 418</ref>

As [[Ancient Rome|Rome]] relied heavily on imports of grain from Egypt, the Romans took great interest in the political situation in Egypt. As revolts, ambitious politicians, and powerful Syrian opponents made this situation unstable, Roman forces were sent to secure the country, once and for all, as a province of the empire.<ref>James (2005) p. 62</ref>

===Roman Domination===
Egypt became a province of the [[Roman Empire]] in 30 BC, following the defeat of [[Marc Antony]] and [[History of Ptolemaic Egypt|Ptolemaic]] Queen [[Cleopatra VII]] by [[Augustus|Octavian]] (later [[Roman emperor|Emperor]] Augustus) in the [[Battle of Actium]]. The Romans relied heavily on grain
shipments from Egypt, and the Roman army, under the control of a prefect appointed by the Emporer, quelled rebellions, strictly enforced the collection of heavy taxes, and prevented against the attacks of bandits which had become a notorious problem in the period.<ref>James (2005) p. 63</ref> Alexandria became an increasingly important center on the trade route with the orient, as exotic
luxuries were in high demand in Rome.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 426</ref>

Although the Romans had a more hostile attitude towards the Egyptians than the Greeks, some traditions such as mummification, worship of the traditional gods, and the language were allowed to continue.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 422</ref> The emporers even had themselves depicted as pharaohs. The administration, however, was Roman in style and closed to native Egyptians. From the mid-first century AD, [[Christianity]] took root in Alexandria and spread. Incompatible with paganism, Christianity sought to win converts and threatened popular religious traditions. This led to persecutions which culminated in the great purges of [[Diocletian]] starting in 303 AD, but eventually Christianity won out.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 441</ref> As a consequence, Egypt's pagan culture was suppressed once and for all, and the ability to read [[Egyptian hieroglyphs]] disappeared along with the Egyptian priests and priestesses who officiated at the temples, which were converted to churches or abandoned to the desert.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 445</ref>

==Government and economy==
===Administration and commerce===
[[Image:Pharaoh.svg|thumb|upright|The pharaoh was usually depicted wearing symbols of royalty and power.]]
The [[pharaoh]] was the absolute monarch of the country and, at least in theory, wielded complete control of the land and its resources. The king was also the supreme military commander, responsible for all military and policy decisions. The king relied on a bureaucracy of officials to manage his affairs, and in charge of the administration was his second in command, the vizier. The vizier acted as the king's representative and coordinated land surveys, the treasury, building projects, the legal system, and the archives.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358</ref> At a local level, the country was divided into 42 administrative regions called [[Nome (Egypt)|nomes]]. Each nome's governor, called a nomarch, was accountable to the vizier for his jurisdiction. The temples formed the backbone of the economy and were not only houses of worship, but were also responsible for collecting and storing the nation's wealth in a system of [[granary|granaries]] and treasuries. From these central storage facilities, administered by overseers, grain and goods could be distributed to the populace.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 363</ref>

Much of the economy was centrally organized and strictly controlled. Although the ancient Egyptians did not use [[coinage]], they did use a type of money-barter system,<ref>Meskell (2004) p. 23</ref> with standard sacks of grain and the ''[[Deben (Egyptian weight unit)|deben]]'', a weight of roughly 91 grams of copper or silver, forming a common denominator.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> Workers were paid in grain; a simple laborer might earn 5½ sacks (191 kg) of grain per month, while a foreman might earn 7½ sacks (261 kg). Prices were fixed across the country and recorded in lists to facilitate trading; for example a shirt cost five copper ''deben'', while a cow cost 140 ''deben''.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> Grain could be traded for other goods, according to the fixed price list.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 372</ref> During the fifth century BC coined money was introduced into Egypt from abroad. At first the coins were used as standardized pieces of precious metal rather than true money, but in the following centuries international traders came to rely on coinage.<ref>Walbank (1984) p. 125</ref>

===Social status===
Egyptian society was highly stratified, and social status was expressly displayed. Farmers made up the bulk of the population, but agricultural produce was owned directly by the state, temple, or noble family that owned the land.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 383</ref> Most of the population did not have freedom of movement or a free choice of career. Farmers were also subject to a labor tax and were required to work on irrigation or construction projects in a ''[[corvée]]'' system.<ref>James (2005) p. 136</ref> Artists and craftsmen were of higher status than farmers, but they were also under state control, working in the shops attached to the temples and paid directly from the state treasury. [[Scribes]] and officials formed the upper class in ancient Egypt, prominently displaying their social status in art and literature. [[Slavery]] was known in ancient Egypt, but the extent and prevalence of its practice are unclear.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/social/index.html |title=Social classes in ancient Egypt |accessdate=2007-12-11 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

[[Image:Louvre-antiquites-egyptiennes-p1020372 Cropped and bg reduced.png|thumb|left|Scribes were elite and well educated. They assessed taxes, kept records, and were responsible for administration.]]
===Legal system===
The head of the legal system in ancient Egypt was officially the pharaoh, who was responsible for proclaiming laws, delivering justice, and maintaining law and order, a concept the ancient Egyptians referred to as [[Ma'at]].<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref> Though no legal codes from ancient Egypt survive, the many existing court documents of the period show that Egyptian law was based on a common-sense view of right and wrong that emphasized reaching agreements and resolving conflicts rather than strictly adhering to a complicated set of statutes.<ref name=UCJohnson>{{cite web|url=http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/1/777777190170/|title=Women's Legal Rights in Ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=University of Chicago| author=Janet H. Johnson}}</ref>

The ancient Egyptians viewed men and women, including people from all social classes except slaves, as essentially equal under the law, and even the lowliest peasant was entitled to petition the [[vizier]] and his court for redress.<ref name=UCJohnson/> Both men and women had the right to own and sell property, make contracts, marry and divorce, receive inheritance, and pursue legal disputes in court. Married couples could own property jointly and protect themselves from divorce by agreeing to marriage contracts, which stipulated the financial obligations of the husband to his wife and children should the marriage end.<ref name=UCJohnson/>

Local councils of elders, known as ''Kenbet'' in the New Kingdom, were responsible for ruling in court cases involving small claims and minor disputes, although the Kenbet's ability to enforce its rulings was limited.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref> Local Kenbets deferred serious or complicated cases involving murder, major land transactions, and tomb robbery to the ''Great Kenbet'', over which the vizier or pharaoh presided. Plaintiffs and defendants were expected to represent themselves in legal matters and were required to swear an oath that they had told the truth.<ref>Oakes p. 472</ref> In cases of tomb robbery or assassination plots, the state took on both the role of prosecutor and judge, and it could torture the accused with beatings to obtain a confession and the names of any co-conspirators. Whether the charges were trivial or serious, court scribes documented the complaint, testimony, and verdict of the case for future reference.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358</ref>

Punishment for minor crimes involved either imposition of fines, beatings, facial mutilation, or exile, depending on the severity of the offense. Serious crimes such as murder and tomb robbery were punished by execution, which was carried out by decapitation, drowning, or impaling the criminal on a stake. Punishment could also be extended to the criminal's family.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 358 </ref>

From the New Kingdom on [[oracle]]s began to play a major role in the legal system, dispensing justice in both civil and criminal cases. The procedure was to ask the god a "yes" or "no" question concerning the right or wrong of an issue. The god, carried by a number of priests, rendered judgment by choosing one or the other, moving forward or backward, or pointing to one of the answers written on a piece of papyrus or an ostracon.<ref>McDowell (1999) p. 168</ref>

===Agriculture===
{{see also|Ancient Egyptian cuisine}}
[[Image:Tomb of Nakht (2).jpg|thumb|upright|A tomb relief depicts workers plowing the fields, harvesting the crops, and threshing the grain under the direction of an overseer.]]
A combination of several favorable geographical features contributed to the success of the ancient Egyptian culture, the most important of which was the rich fertile [[soil]] resulting from annual inundations of the Nile river. The ancient Egyptians were thus able to produce an abundance of food, allowing the population to devote more time and resources to cultural, technological, and artistic pursuits. Land management was crucial in ancient Egypt because [[taxes]] were assessed based on the amount of land a person owned.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 361 </ref>

Farming in Egypt was dependent upon the cycle of the Nile River. The Egyptians recognized three seasons in their written records: ''Akhet'' (flooding), ''Peret'' (planting), and ''Shemu'' (harvesting). The flooding season lasted from June to September, depositing on the river's banks a layer of mineral-rich [[silt]] perfect for growing crops. After the floodwaters had receded, the growing season lasted from October to February. Farmers plowed and planted seeds in the fields, which were irrigated with ditches and canals. Egypt received little rainfall, so farmers relied on the Nile to water their crops.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 514</ref> From March to May, farmers would use [[sickles]] to harvest their crops, which would then be [[Threshing|threshed]] with a [[flail]] in order to separate the straw from the grain. [[Winnowing]] would remove the [[chaff]] from the grain, and the grain would then be ground into flour, brewed to make beer, or stored for later use.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 506</ref>

The ancient Egyptians cultivated [[emmer]] and [[barley]], and several other cereal grains, all of which were used to make the two main food staples of [[bread]] and [[beer]].<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 510</ref> [[Flax]] plants, uprooted before they started flowering, were grown for the fibers of their stems. These fibers were split along their length and spun into thread, which was used to weave sheets of [[linen]] and to make clothing. [[Papyrus]] growing on the banks of the Nile River was used to make paper. Vegetables and fruits were grown in garden plots, close to habitations and on higher ground, and had to be watered by hand. Vegetables included leeks, garlic, melons, squashes, pulses, lettuce, and other crops, in addition to grapes which were made into wine.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 577 and 630</ref>
[[Image:Maler der Grabkammer des Sennudem 001.jpg|thumb|left|Sennedjem plows his fields with a pair of oxen, used as beasts of burden and a source of food.]]

===Livestock===
Livestock were a critical source of food and natural products to the ancient Egyptians. The cow was the most important stock animal, as it provided meat, milk, skins, and fat. The slaughter of a fattened ox was a central part of an offering ritual.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> The administration collected taxes on livestock in regular censuses, and the size of a herd reflected the prestige and importance of the estate or temple that owned them. In addition to cattle, the ancient Egyptians kept sheep, goats, and pigs. Birds such as ducks, geese, and pigeons, were captured in nets and bred on farms where they were force-fed with dough to fatten them.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> The Nile provided a plentiful source of fish. Bees were also domesticated from at least the Old Kingdom, and they provided both honey and wax.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 409</ref>

The ancient Egyptians used donkeys and oxen as beasts of burden, and they were responsible for plowing the fields and trampling seed into the soil. Horses were introduced by the Hyksos in the Second Intermediate Period, and the Arabian camel, though known from the New Kingdom, was not used as a beast of burden until the Late Period.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 381</ref> Dogs and cats were common family pets, while more exotic pets imported from the heart of Africa, such as monkeys and lions, were reserved for royalty. During the Late Period, the worship of the gods in their animal form was extremely popular, such as the cat goddess [[Bastet]] and the ibis god [[Thoth]], and these animals were bred in large numbers on farms for the purpose of ritual sacrifice.<ref>Oakes (2003) p. 229</ref>

===Natural resources===
Egypt is rich in building and decorative stone, copper and lead ores, gold, and semiprecious stones. These natural resources allowed the ancient Egyptians to build monuments, sculpt statues, make tools, and fashion jewelry. They were so thorough in the search for gold that no new deposits have since been discovered in Egypt.<ref>Greaves (1929) p. 123</ref> [[Embalming|Embalmers]] used salts from the [[Wadi Natrun]] for [[mummy|mummification]], which also provided the [[gypsum]] needed to make plaster.<ref>Lucas (1962) p. 413</ref>

The ore-bearing rock formations of ancient Egypt were found in distant, inhospitable [[wadi]]s of the eastern desert and the Sinai and required large, state-controlled expeditions to obtain the gold, copper ores, and decorative stones found there. The [[Wadi Hammamat]] was a notable source of granite, [[greywacke]], and gold. Whenever possible, prisoners and slaves were forced into mining service, but Egyptian peasants were also conscripted for this unpleasant labor.

[[Flint]] was the first mineral collected and used to make tools, and flint handaxes are the earliest pieces of evidence of habitation in the Nile valley. Nodules of the mineral were carefully flaked to make blades and arrowheads of moderate hardness and durability even after copper was adopted for this purpose.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 28</ref> The Egyptians worked deposits of the lead ore [[galena]] at Gebel Rosas to make net sinkers, plumb bobs, and small figurines. Copper was the most important metal for toolmaking in ancient Egypt and was smelted in furnaces from [[malachite]] ore mined in the Sinai.<ref>Scheel (1989) p. 14</ref> Workers collected gold by washing the nuggets out of sediment in [[alluvial deposits]], or by the more labor-intensive process of grinding and washing gold-bearing quartzite. Iron deposits found in upper Egypt were utilized in the Late Period.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 166</ref>
High-quality building stones were abundant in Egypt; the ancient Egyptians quarried limestone all along the Nile valley, granite from Aswan, and basalt and sandstone from the wadis of the eastern desert. Deposits of decorative stones such as [[porphyry]], greywacke, [[alabaster]], and [[carnelian]] dotted the eastern desert and were collected even before the First Dynasty. In the Ptolemaic and Roman Periods, miners worked deposits of [[emerald]]s in Wadi Sikait and [[amethyst]] in Wadi el-Hudi.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 51</ref>

==Language==

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The [[Egyptian language]] belongs to the [[Afro-Asiatic]] language phylum and is related to the [[Semitic languages]], such as [[Arabic]] and [[Hebrew]], as well as the [[Afro-Asiatic languages]] of [[North Africa]], such as [[Berber languages|Berber]] and [[Cushitic]]. Used continuously from before 3000 BC to the 11th century AD, ancient Egyptian was, at one point, the longest-surviving language in the world.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1</ref> The language underwent major changes in its pronunciation and usage over the course of history and was spoken in many [[dialect]]s. The oldest stage of the language, [[Old Egyptian]], was used until about 2100 BC, when it was gradually displaced by [[Middle Egyptian]]. By 1600 BC, [[Late Egyptian]] began to develop and was used until about 600 BC. [[Demotic (Egyptian)|Demotic]] developed from Late Egyptian and survived until the 5th century AD; it was at one time commonly used alongside [[Coptic language|Coptic]], the final phase of the language that was used from the 1st to the 11th century AD. A dialect of Coptic remained in use for services of the [[Coptic church]] and is still in limited use today.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 1–2</ref>

===Writing===

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[[Image:Rosetta Stone BW.jpeg|thumb|upright|The [[Rosetta stone]] enabled linguists to begin the process of hieroglyph decipherment.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 13</ref>]]

The ancient Egyptian writing system is known as "[[hieroglyphic]]" (incorrectly termed "hieroglyphics") and is composed of some 500 symbols called hieroglyphs. There is no explanation for exactly how the system was devised, but it was suddenly adopted and developed shortly before 3000 BC. Each hieroglyph is a picture of a real thing—a bird, tool, or body part— and most of the common hieroglyphs correspond to a letter or letter combination in the [[alphabet]]. Words in the language are spelled out by stringing together the hieroglyphs whose sounds make up the word. Like the semitic languages, ancient Egyptian does not indicate vowels.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 13</ref>

Hieroglyphs were a formal script, used on stone monuments and in tombs, that could be as detailed as individual works of art. In day-to-day writing, scribes used a cursive form of writing, called [[hieratic]], which was quicker and easier. While formal hieroglyphs may be read in rows or columns in either direction, hieratic was always written from right to left, usually in horizontal rows. After Demotic became the dominant spoken language, a new form of writing, of the same name, became the prevalent writing style, and it is this form of writing—along with formal hieroglyphs—that accompany the Greek text on the [[Rosetta Stone]]. In the 1st century AD, Coptic Christians living in Egypt discarded the native demotic script and instead wrote their language, using a modified Greek alphabet, in a script also known as [[Coptic]].<ref>Allen (2000) p. 7</ref> Although formal hieroglyphs were used in a ceremonial role until the 4th century AD, towards the end only a small handful of highly educated priests could still read them; as the traditional religious establishments were disbanded, the knowledge of their meaning was lost. Only in 1822, after the discovery of the Rosetta stone in 1799 and years of research by [[Thomas Young (scientist)|Thomas Young]] and [[Jean-François Champollion]], were the hieroglyphs deciphered.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 8</ref>

[[Image:Edwin Smith Papyrus v2.jpg|thumb|upright|left|The [[Edwin Smith Papyrus|Edwin Smith surgical papyrus]] describes anatomy and medical treatments and is written in hieratic.]]

===Literature===

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Writing first appeared in association with kingship on labels and tags for items found in royal tombs. By the Old Kingdom, this tradition of writing had evolved into the tomb autobiography, such as those of [[Harkhuf]] and [[Weni the Elder|Weni]]. The genre known as ''[[Sebayt]]'' (''Instructions'') was developed to communicate teachings and guidance from famous nobles; the [[Ipuwer papyrus]], a poem of lamentations describing natural disasters and social upheaval, is an extreme example of such an instruction. During the First Intermediate Period and the Middle Kingdom, the prose style of literature matured, with [[The Story of Sinuhe]] perhaps being the classic of Egyptian literature.<ref>Lichtheim (1975) p. 11</ref> Also written at this time was the [[Westcar Papyrus]], a set of stories told to [[Khufu]] by his sons relating the marvels performed by priests.<ref>Lichtheim (1975) p. 215</ref> Towards the end of the New Kingdom, the [[Story of Wenamun]] was written. It tells the story of a noble who is robbed on his way to buy cedar from Lebanon and of his struggle to return to Egypt; the text also shows the end of united Egypt and the start of the tumultuous Third Intermediate Period.

==Culture==
===Daily life===
[[Image:Ägyptischer Maler um 1400 v. Chr. 001.jpg|thumb|The ancient Egyptians maintained a rich cultural heritage complete with feasts and festivals accompanied by music and dance.]]
Most ancient Egyptians were farmers tied to the land. The dwelling was restricted to immediate family members, and were constructed of mud-brick designed to remain cool in the heat of the day. Each home had a kitchen with an open roof, which contained a grindstone for milling flour and a small oven for baking bread.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 401</ref> Walls were painted white and could be covered with dyed linen wall hangings. Floors were covered with reed mats, and wooden stools, beds raised from the floor, and individual tables comprised the furniture.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 403</ref>

The ancient Egyptians placed a great value on hygiene and appearance. Most bathed in the Nile and used a pasty soap made from animal fat and chalk. Men shaved their entire bodies for cleanliness, and aromatic perfumes and ointments covered bad odors and soothed skin.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 405</ref> Clothing was made from simple linen sheets which were bleached white, and both men and women of the upper classes wore wigs, jewelery, and cosmetics. Children went without clothing until maturity, at about age twelve, and at this age males were circumcised and had their heads shaved. Mothers were responsible for taking care of the children, while the father provided the family's income.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 406–7</ref>

The staple of the diet consisted of bread and beer, supplemented with vegetables such as onions and garlic, and fruit such as dates and figs. Wine and meat were enjoyed on feast days and for the upper classes. Fish, meat, and foul could be salted or dried, and could be cooked in stews or roasted on a grill.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 399–400</ref> Music and dance were popular entertainments for those who could afford them. Early instruments included flutes and harps, while instruments similar to trumpets, oboes, and pipes developed later and became popular. In the New Kingdom, the Egyptians played on bells, cymbals, tambourines, and drums and imported [[lute]]s and [[lyre]]s from Asia.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/furniture/music.html|title=Music in Ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref> The [[sistrum]] was a rattle-like musical instrument that was especially important in religious ceremonies.

The ancient Egyptians enjoyed a variety of leisure activities, including games and music. [[Senet]], a board game where pieces moved according to random chance, was particularly popular from the earliest times; another similar game was [[mehen]], which had a circular gaming board. Juggling and ball games were popular with children, and wrestling is also documented in a tomb at [[Beni Hasan]].<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 126</ref> The wealthy members of ancient Egyptian society enjoyed hunting and boating as well.

[[Image:Hatshetsup-temple-1by7.jpg|thumb|right|Hatshepsut's New Kingdom Temple at Dier al-Bahari]]

===Architecture===

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The architecture of ancient Egypt includes some of the most famous structures in the world: the [[Great Pyramids of Giza]], [[Abu Simbel]], and the [[Karnak|temples at Thebes]]. All major building projects were organized and funded by the state, and they not only fulfilled religious, military, and commemorative purposes, but also reinforced the power and reputation of the pharaoh to ensure his legacy for all time. The ancient Egyptians were skilled builders with expert knowledge of basic surveying and construction techniques. Using simple but effective measuring ropes, plum bobs, and sighting instruments, architects could build large stone structures with accuracy and precision.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 94–7</ref>

Most buildings in ancient Egypt were constructed from perishable materials such as mud bricks and wood, and have not survived. Important structures such as temples and tombs were intended to last forever and were instead constructed of stone. The first large scale stone building in the world, the mortuary complex of [[Djoser]], was built in the Third Dynasty as a stone imitation of the mud-brick and wooden structures used in daily life.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 136</ref>
[[Image:Hypostyle hall, Karnak temple.jpg|thumb|upright|left|Karnak temple's hypostyle halls are constructed with rows of thick columns supporting the roof beams.]]
The architectural elements used in Djoser's mortuary complex, including [[post and lintel]] construction of huge stone roof blocks supported by external walls and closely spaced columns, would be copied many times in Egyptian history. Decorative styles introduced in the Old Kingdom, such as the lotus and papyrus motifs, are a recurring theme in ancient Egyptian architecture.<ref>Stierlin (1995) p. 19</ref>

The earliest tomb architecture in ancient Egypt was the [[mastaba]], a flat-roofed rectangular structure of mudbrick or stone built over an underground burial chamber. The mastaba was the most popular tomb among the nobility in the Old Kingdom, and the first pyramid, the [[step pyramid]] of Djoser, is actually a series of stone mastabas stacked on top of each other. The step pyramid was itself the inspiration for the first true pyramids. Pyramids were built by the pharaohs of the Old and Middle Kingdoms, but later rulers abandoned them in favor of less conspicuous rock-cut tombs.<ref>Dodson (1991) p. 23</ref> New Kingdom pharaohs built their rock-cut tombs in the [[Valley of the Kings]], and by the Third Intermediate Period, the pharaohs had abandoned building grand tomb architecture altogether.

The earliest preserved ancient Egyptian temples, dating back to the Old Kingdom, consist of single, enclosed halls with roof slabs supported by columns. The mortuary temples connected to the pyramids at Giza are examples of this early temple. During the Fifth Dynasty, pharaohs developed the sun temple, the focus of which was a squat, pyramid-shaped [[obelisk]] known as a ben-ben stone. The ben-ben stone and other temple structures were surrounded by an outer wall and connected to the Nile via a causeway terminating in a valley temple. In the New Kingdom, architects added the [[pylon (architecture)|pylon]], the open courtyard, and the enclosed [[hypostyle]] hall to the front of the temple's sanctuary. Because the common people were not allowed past the entry pylon, the deity residing in the inner sanctuary was distanced from the outside world. This type of cult temple was standardly used until the Ptolemaic and Roman Periods.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/temple/typestime.html|title=Types of temples in ancient Egypt|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

===Art===

[[Image:Nefertiti 30-01-2006.jpg|thumb|upright|The Bust of Nefertiti, by the sculptor [[Thutmose (sculptor)|Thutmose]], is one of the most famous masterpieces of ancient Egyptian art.]]
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The ancient Egyptians produced art to serve functional purposes rather than to express creative genius. For over 3500 years, artists adhered to artistic forms that were developed during the Old Kingdom, following a strict set of principles that resisted foreign influence and internal change.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 29</ref> These artistic standards—simple lines, shapes, and flat areas of color combined with the characteristic flat projection of figures with no indication of spatial depth—created a sense of order and balance within a composition. The ancient Egyptians made little distinction between images and text, which were intimately interwoven on tomb and temple walls, coffins, stelae, and even statues. This mentality is evident even in the earliest examples of Egyptian art, such as the [[Narmer Palette]], where the figures being depicted may also be read as hieroglyphs.<ref>Robins (1997) p. 21</ref> Because of the rigid rules that governed its highly stylized and symbolic appearance, ancient Egyptian art served its political and religious purposes with precision and clarity.<ref>Robins (2001) p. </ref>

Pharaohs used [[reliefs]] carved on [[stelae]], temple walls, and obelisks to record victories in battle, royal decrees, and religious scenes. These art forms glorified the pharaoh, recorded that ruler's version of historical events, and established the relationship between the Egyptians and their deities. Common citizens had access to pieces of funerary art, such as [[shabti]] statues and books of the dead, which they believed would protect them in the afterlife.<ref>James (2005) p. 122</ref> During the Middle Kingdom, wooden or clay models depicting scenes from everyday life became popular additions to the tomb. In an attempt to duplicate the activities of the living in the afterlife, these models show laborers, houses, boats, and even military formations that are scale representations of the ideal ancient Egyptian afterlife.<ref>Robinson (1998) p. 74</ref>

During the turbulent times of the Late Period, artists—or more likely their patrons—sought to reinforce continuity with their historical predecessors and enhance their political legitimacy by adopting an "archaising" style.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 212</ref> Copying the unique style of the Old Kingdom, artists carved statues and reliefs that are sometimes indistinguishable from objects created some two thousand years earlier. In this Saite style, poses, hairstyles, musculature, and composition were heavily influenced from the past. Artists did have some room for innovation, however, as they adapted historic themes and patterns to Late Period uses.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 212</ref>

Despite the homogeneity of ancient Egyptian art, the styles of particular times and places sometimes reflected changing cultural or political attitudes. After the invasion of the Hyksos in the Second Intermediate Period, Minoan style frescoes were found in Avaris, suggesting political and cultural connections with Crete.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 216</ref> The most striking example, however, comes from the Amarna period, where the appearance of the royal figure and artistic subject matter were radically altered to conform to [[Akhenaten]]'s revolutionary religious ideas.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 149</ref> In [[Amarna art]], The pharaoh was depicted with swelling thighs and an oblong head in shocking contrast to traditional motifs. There is no secure explanation why Akhenaten allowed himself to be portrayed in this fashion, but he may have been trying to show himself with both male and female characteristics. The standard religious scenes were replaced by those of the royal family worshipping the [[Aten]], which, along with Akhenaten himself, had become the central focus of the new religion. After Akhenaten's death, the new art forms and religion were quickly and thoroughly erased, replaced by the traditional forms.<ref>Robins (1998) p. 158</ref>

===Religious beliefs===

[[Image:BD Hunefer.jpg|thumb|300px|The book of the dead was a guide to the deceased's journey in the afterlife.]]
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Beliefs in the divine and in the afterlife were ingrained in the ancient Egyptian civilization from its inception; pharaonic rule was based upon the doctrine of the [[divine right of kings]]. The Egyptian pantheon was populated by a diverse array of gods who had supernatural, though sometimes limited, powers and were called upon for help or protection. However, the gods were not always viewed as benevolent, and Egyptians believed they had to be appeased with offerings and prayers. The structure of this pantheon changed continually as new deities were promoted in the hierarchy, but priests made no effort to organize the diverse and sometimes conflicting creation myths and stories into a coherent system.<ref>James (2005) p. 102</ref>

Officially, the gods were worshiped in cult temples by priests acting on the king's behalf. At the center of the temple, the cult statue of the god was placed in a shrine where the god could manifest himself. Temples were not places of public worship or congregation, and only on select feast days and celebrations would a shrine carrying the statue of the god be brought out for public worship. Normally, the god's domain was sealed off from the outside world and was only accessible to temple officials; common citizens seeking a more direct interaction with the gods could worship private statues and [[stelae]] in the home, and amulets offered continuous, personal protection against the forces of chaos.<ref>James (2005) p. 117</ref><ref>Andrews (1994) p. 6</ref>

[[Image:Ka Statue of horawibra.jpg|thumb|upright|left|The Ka statue provided a physical place for the Ka to manifest.]]
After the New Kingdom, the pharaoh's connection to the divine, and thus his role as a spiritual intermediary, were de-emphasized as religious customs shifted to direct worship of the gods. As a result, priests developed a system of [[oracles]] to communicate the will of the gods directly to the people.<ref> Shaw (2002) p. 313</ref> An oracle could be a statue of the god which could be asked a yes or no question, to which it would "respond" by hidden manipulations of a priest; the priests could also pose questions to the oracle behind closed doors. Oracles became very popular for appealing legal verdicts or for justifying military actions and political decisions.<ref> Shaw (2002) p. 313</ref>

The Egyptians believed that every human being was composed of physical and spiritual parts, called ''aspects''. In addition to the body, each person had a ''šwt'' (shadow), a ''ba'' (personality or soul), a ''ka'' (life-force), and a ''name''.<ref>Allen (2000) p. 79, 94–5</ref> The heart, rather than the brain, was considered the seat of thoughts and emotions. After death, the spiritual aspects were released from the body and could move at will, but they required the physical remains (or a substitute, such as a statue) as a permanent home. The ultimate goal of the deceased was to rejoin his ''ka'' and ''ba'' and become one of the "blessed dead", living on as an ''akh'', or "effective one". In order for this to happen, the deceased had to be judged worthy in a trial, in which the heart was weighed against a "feather of truth". If deemed worthy, the deceased could continue their existence on earth in spiritual form.<ref>Wasserman, ''et al'' (1994) p. 150–3</ref>

===Burial customs===

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[[Image:Anubis attending the mummy of Sennedjem.jpg|thumb|Anubis was the ancient Egyptian god associated with mummification and burial rituals; here, he attends to a mummy.]]
The ancient Egyptians maintained an elaborate set of burial customs that they believed were necessary to ensure immortality after death. These customs involved preserving the body by [[mummification]], performing burial ceremonies, and interring, along with the body, goods to be used by the deceased in the afterlife.<ref>James (2005) p. 122</ref>

Before the Old Kingdom, bodies buried in desert pits were naturally preserved by [[desiccation]]. The arid, desert conditions continued to be a boon throughout the history of ancient Egypt for the burials of the poor, who could not afford the elaborate burial preparations available to the elite. However, many wealthier Egyptians lost the advantage of natural mummification by the desert when they began to bury their dead in stone tombs. As a result, the wealthy elite of the Old and Middle Kingdoms began to make use of artificial mummification, which involved removing the internal organs, wrapping the body in linen, coating it with plaster or resin, and sometimes painting or sculpting facial details. The body was then buried in a rectangular stone sarcophagus or wooden coffin. Beginning in the Fourth Dynasty, the [[intestine]]s, [[lung]]s, [[liver]], and [[stomach]] were preserved separately in [[canopic jars]] and symbolically protected by likenesses of the [[Four sons of Horus]].<ref> {{cite web|url= http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/mummy/ok.html|title=Mummies and Mummification: Old Kingdom|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

[[Image:tutmask.jpg|thumb|upright|left|Pharaohs' tombs were provided with vast quantities of wealth, such as this golden mask from the mummy of [[Tutankhamun]].]]
By the New Kingdom, the ancient Egyptians had perfected the art of mummification; the best technique took 70 days and involved removing the internal organs, removing the brain through the nose, and desiccating the body in a mixture of salts called [[natron]]. The body was then wrapped in linen with protective amulets inserted between layers and placed in a decorated anthropoid coffin. Mummies of the Late Period were also placed in painted [[cartonnage]] mummy cases. Actual preservation practices declined during the Ptolemaic and Roman eras, while greater emphasis was placed on the outer appearance of the mummy, which was decorated with elaborate rhomboidal patterns formed by the wrapping bandages.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/mummy/late.html|title=Mummies and Mummification: Late Period, Ptolemaic, Roman and Christian Period |accessdate=2008-03-09 |publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

Wealthy members of society were buried with larger quantities of luxury items and furniture, but all burials, regardless of social status, included goods for the deceased, such as food and jewelry. Beginning in the New Kingdom, [[book of the dead|books of the dead]] were included in the grave and contained spells and instructions for protection in the afterlife. New Kingdom Egyptians were also buried with [[shabti]] statues, which they believed would perform manual labor for them in the afterlife.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/burialcustoms/shabtis.html|title=Shabtis|accessdate=2008-03-09|publisher=Digital Egypt for Universities, University College London}}</ref>

All Egyptian burials was accompanied by rituals in which the deceased was magically re-animated. This procedure involved touching the mouth and eyes of the deceased with ceremonial instruments to restore the power of speech, movement, and sight. After burial, living relatives were expected to occasionally bring food to the tomb and recite prayers on behalf of the deceased.<ref>James (2005) p. 124</ref>

==Foreign relations==
===Trade===
The ancient Egyptians engaged in trade with their [[Foreign contacts of Ancient Egypt|foreign neighbors]] to obtain rare, exotic goods not found in Egypt. In the Predynastic Period, they established trade with Nubia to obtain gold and incense. They also established trade with Palestine, as evidenced by Palestinian-style oil jugs found in the burials of the First Dynasty pharaohs.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 72</ref> By the Second Dynasty, the ancient Egyptians had established trade with [[Byblos]], a critical source of quality timber not found in Egypt. In the Fifth Dynasty, trade was established with the [[Land of Punt]], which provided gold, aromatic resins, [[ebony]], [[ivory]], and wild animals such as monkeys and baboons.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 322</ref>

Egypt relied on trade with [[Anatolia]] for essential quantities of tin as well as supplementary supplies of copper, both metals being necessary for the manufacture of [[bronze]]. The ancient Egyptians prized the blue stone [[lapis lazuli]], which had to be imported from far-away [[Afghanistan]]. Egypt's Mediterranean trade partners also included [[ancient Greece|Greece]] and [[Crete]], which provided, among other goods, supplies of olive oil.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 145</ref> In exchange for its luxury imports and raw materials, Egypt mainly exported grain, gold, linen, and papyrus, in addition to other finished goods including glass and stone objects.<ref>Harris (1990) p. 13</ref>

===Military===
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[[Image:Mesehtisoldiers.JPG|thumb|Wooden figures of Egyptian soldiers, from the tomb of Mesehti, 11th Dynasty]]
The ancient Egyptian military was responsible for maintaining Egypt's domination in the ancient Near East. The military protected mining expeditions to the Sinai during the [[Old Kingdom]] and fought civil wars during the First and Second Intermediate Periods. The military was responsible for maintaining fortifications along important trade routes, such as those found at the city of [[Buhen]] on the way to Nubia. Forts also were constructed to serve as military bases, such as the fortress at Sile, which was a base of operations for expeditions to the [[Levant]]. In the New Kingdom, a series of pharaohs used the standing Egyptian army to attack and conquer [[Kush]] and parts of the Levant.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 245</ref>

Typical military equipment included bows and arrows, spears, and round-topped shields made by stretching animal skin over a wooden frame. In the New Kingdom, the military began using [[chariot]]s that were introduced by the Hyksos invaders of the Second Intermediate Period. Weapons and armor continued to improve after the adoption of bronze: shields were now made from solid wood with a bronze buckle, spears were tipped with a bronze point, and a type of scimitar made of bronze, the [[Khopesh]], was adopted from Asian soldiers.<ref>Manuelian (1998) p. 366–7</ref>

The Egyptian pharaoh was usually depicted in art and literature riding at the head of the army, and there is some evidence that at least a few pharaohs, such as [[Seqenenre Tao II]] and his sons, did in fact do so.<ref>Clayton (1994) p. 96 </ref> Soldiers were recruited from the general population, but during, and especially after, the New Kingdom, mercenaries from Nubia, Kush, and Libya were hired to fight for Egypt while under the command of their own officers.<ref>Shaw (2002) p. 400</ref>

==Technology, medicine, and mathematics==
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In [[technology]], [[medicine]] and [[mathematics]], ancient Egypt achieved a relatively high standard of productivity and sophistication. Traditional [[empiricism]], as evidenced by the [[Edwin Smith Papyrus|Edwin Smith]] and [[Ebers papyrus|Ebers papyri]] (circa 1600 BC), is first credited to Egypt, and the roots of the [[Scientific method#History|scientific method]] can also be traced back to the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians created their own alphabet and the [[decimal system]], although it is unclear—due to the margin of error in carbon-dating tests—whether the Egyptians were the first to do so.<ref>{{cite web |author= J J O'Connor and E F Robertson| title=An Overview of Egyptian Mathematics | url=http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Egyptian_mathematics.html|accessdate=2008-03-09| publisher=School of Mathematics and Statistics University of St Andrews Scotland}}</ref>
[[Image:Egyptian glass jar.jpg|thumb|left|upright|Glassmaking was a highly developed art.]]
===Faience and glass===
Even before the Old Kingdom, the ancient Egyptians had developed a glassy material known as [[Egyptian faience|faience]], which they treated as a type of artifical semi-precious stone. Faience is a non-clay ceramic made of [[silica]], small amounts of [[Calcium oxide|lime]] and [[Sodium oxide|soda]], and a colorant, typically copper.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 177</ref> The material was used to make beads, tiles, figurines, and small wares. Several different methods can be used to create faience, but typically production would involve application of the powdered materials in the form of a paste over a clay core which is then fired. By a related technique, the ancient Egyptians produced a pigment known as [[Egyptian Blue]], also called blue frit, which is produced by fusing (or [[sintering]]) silica, copper, lime, and an alkali such as natron. The product can be ground up and used as a pigment.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 109</ref> The ancient Egyptians could fabricate a wide variety of objects from [[glass]] with great skill, but it is not clear whether they developed the process independently.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 195</ref> It is also not clear whether they ever made their own raw glass or merely imported pre-made ingots which
they melted and finished, however they did have technical expertise in making different kinds of objects as well as adding trace elements to control the color of the finished glass. A range of colors could be produced, including yellow, red, green, blue, purple, and white, and the glass could be made either transparent or opaque.<ref>Nicholson (2000) p. 215</ref>

===Medicine===
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[[Image:Prosthetic toe.jpg|thumb|This wood and leather prosthetic toe was used by an amputee to facilitate walking.]]
The medical problems of the ancient Egyptians stemmed directly from their environment. Living and working close to the Nile brought hazards from [[malaria]] and debilitating [[schistosomiasis]] parasites, which caused liver and intestinal damage. Dangerous wildlife such as [[crocodiles]] and [[hippos]] were also a common threat. The life-long labors of farming and building put stress on the spine and joints, and traumatic injuries from construction and warfare all took a significant toll on ancient Egyptians. The grit and sand from stone-ground flour abraded teeth, leaving them susceptible to [[abcess]]es (though [[dental caries|caries]] were rare).<ref>Filer (1995) p. 94</ref> The diets of the wealthy were rich in sugars, which promoted [[periodontal disease]].<ref>Filer (1995) p. 78–80</ref> Despite the flattering physiques portrayed on tomb walls, the overweight mummies of many of the upper class show the effects of a life of overindulgence.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 21</ref> Life expectancy was about 35 for men and 30 for women, but reaching adulthood was difficult as about one-third of the population died in infancy.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 25</ref>

Ancient Egyptian physicians were renowned in the ancient Near East for their healing skills.<ref>Filer (1995) p. 39</ref> [[Medical papyri]] show that they performed thorough examinations and treated patients using a combination of prayers, protective amulets, and remedies derived from natural products. Wounds were treated by bandaging with raw meat, honey was used to prevent infection, and opium was used to relieve pain. Garlic and onions were used regularly to promote good health and were thought to relieve [[asthma]] symptoms. Ancient Egyptian surgeons stitched wounds, set broken bones, and amputated diseased limbs, but they recognized that some injuries were so serious that they could only make the patient comfortable until he died.<ref>{{citeweb|url=http://touregypt.net/edwinsmithsurgical.htm|title=Edwin Smith Surgical Papyrus Translation|accessdate=2008-03-01}}</ref>

===Mathematics===
Texts such as the [[Rhind Mathematical Papyrus]] and the [[Berlin Papyrus]] show that the ancient Egyptians could perform the four basic mathematical operations—addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division—use fractions, compute the volumes of boxes and pyramids, and calculate the surface areas of rectangles, triangles, circles and even spheres. They understood basic concepts of [[algebra]] and [[geometry]], and could solve simple sets of [[simultaneous equations]].<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 222</ref> Mathematics were always used for practical purposes, such as calculating food rations, building supplies, or the labor force necessary for a project.

Mathematics notation was decimal, and based on hieroglyphic signs for each power of ten up to one million. The symbol was written as many times as necessary to add up to the desired number, so to write the number eighty, the symbol for ten was written eight times.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 217</ref> Because ancient Egyptian methods of calculation could not handle fractions with a numerator greater than one, these types of fractions had to be written out as the sum of several fractions. For example, the fraction {{frac|2|5}} was always resolved into the sum of {{frac|1|3}} + {{frac|1|15}}. Such conversions were facilitated by standard tables of values.<ref>Clarke (1990) p. 218</ref>

The ancient Egyptians had no concept of [[pi]] and never made any efforts to calculate it, but they could approximate the area of a circle using a simple formula, which was to subtract {{frac|1|9}} of the diameter and square the result. In modern notation, this would be expressed as Area ≈ [({{frac|8|9}})D]2.<ref>Jurgensen ''et. al.'' (1972) p. 52</ref> Additionally, the [[golden ratio]] seems to be reflected in many Egyptian constructions, including the [[Egyptian pyramids|pyramids]],<ref name=phi>{{cite web|url=http://mtcs.truman.edu/~thammond/history/EgyptianPyramids.html|title=The Egyptian Pyramids - Mathematics and the Liberal Arts|publisher=Truman State University|accessdate=2008-03-09}}</ref> but its use may have been an unintended consequence of the ancient Egyptian practice of combining the use of knotted ropes with an intuitive sense of proportion and harmony.<ref>Kemp (1989) p. 138</ref>

==Legacy and rediscovery==
The culture and monuments of ancient Egypt have left a lasting legacy on the world. The cult of the goddess [[Isis]], for example, became popular in the [[Roman empire]], as obelisks and other relics were transported back to Rome.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 8</ref> The Romans also imported building materials from Egypt to erect structures in Egyptian style. Early historians such as [[Herodotus]], [[Strabo]], [[Diodorus Siculus]] and [[Pliny the Elder]] were fascinated by Egypt and studied and wrote about the land which became viewed as a place full of arcane mysteries and ruined monuments.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 10</ref> As the traditional establishments in Egypt were disbanded by early Christians, the authentic knowledge of Egyptian history was displaced by second-hand accounts and the invented stories of tourists and treasure-seekers.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 13</ref>

[[Image:Egypt.ZahiHawass.01.jpg|thumb|Dr. [[Zahi Hawass]] is the current secretary general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities.]]
Interest in Egypt was re-awakened by European travellers of the 17th and 18th centuries, who brought back antiquities and wrote stories of their journeys. Such published accounts stimulated a wave of "[[Egyptomania]]" which swept across Europe, as all things Egyptian came into vogue. This renewed interest sent a surge of travellers and museum collectors into Egypt, who took, purchased, or were given many important antiquities.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 13</ref> Although the greedy motives of many
collectors destroyed a significant portion of the country's historical legacy, some foreigners had more noble motives. [[Napoleon]], for example, arranged the first scientific studies in [[egyptology]] when he brought some 150 scientists and artists to study and document Egypt's natural history, which was published in the ''Description de l'Ėgypte'', a work of more than 7000 pages and 3000 drawings.<ref>Siliotti (1998) p. 100</ref> The decipherment of hieroglyphs in 1822 allowed the history of ancient Egypt, written in their own words, to be rediscovered and understood.

Since the 19th century, the Egyptian Government and archaeologists alike have begun to recognize the importance of cultural respect and integrity in excavations. The [[Supreme Council of Antiquities]] now approves and oversees all excavations, which are aimed at finding information rather than treasure. The council also supervises museums and monument reconstruction programs, which are designed to preserve and share the historical legacy of ancient Egypt for all.

==See also==
{{commonscat|Ancient Egypt}}{{portal}}
<div style="-moz-column-count:2; column-count:2;">
*[[Egypt]]
*[[History of Egypt]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian architecture|Architecture of ancient Egypt]]
*[[Art of Ancient Egypt]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian burial customs]]
*[[Racial characteristics of ancient Egyptians]]
*[[Egyptian Museum]]
*[[Ancient Egyptian religion]]
*[[Egyptians]]
*[[Egypt in the European imagination]]
*[[Egyptology]]
*[[List of Ancient Egyptians]]
*[[List of Ancient Egyptian sites|List of Ancient Egyptian Sites]]
*[[List of pharaohs]]
</div>

==Notes and references==
===References===
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*{{cite book|author=Dodson, Aidan|coauthor=Hilton, Dyan|title=The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt|publisher=Thames & Hudson |year=2004|isbn=0500051283}}
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===External links===
*[http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/ Ancient Egypt] – maintained by the [[British Museum]], this site provides a useful introduction to Ancient Egypt for older children and young adolescents
*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/ BBC History: Egyptians] – provides a reliable general overview and further links
*Ancient records of Egypt; historical documents from the earliest times to the Persian conquest. [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc00/breanc00.html Volume I: The first to seventeenth dynasties], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc01/breanc01.html Volume II: The eighteenth dynasty], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc02/breanc02.html Volume III: The nineteenth dynasty], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc03/breanc03.html Volume IV], [http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books/breanc04/breanc04.html Volume V], by James Henry Breasted (1906) – A reference work on Egyptology.
*[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN&id=qeApebusL_0C&dq=PtahHotep&as_brr=1&hl=nl Texts from the Pyramid Age Door Nigel C. Strudwick, Ronald J. Leprohon, 2005, Brill Academic Publishers]
*[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN&id=9ToLAAAAIAAJ&dq=PtahHotep&as_brr=1&hl=nl Ancient Egyptian Science: A Source Book Door Marshall Clagett, 1989]
*[http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/ Digital Egypt for Universities.] Outstanding scholarly treatment with broad coverage and excellent cross references (internal and external). Artifacts used extensively to illustrate topics.
*[http://www.aldokkan.com/science/metallurgy.htm Ancient Egyptian Metallurgy] A site that shows the history of Egyptian [[metalworking]]
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:I moved that "Tip line" element as that was more a "General Forum" discussion issue. I have made a response. The tip line is for ideas for newsletter material. which could include suggesting a reference to such debates if they are deemed to be of sufficient interest and lively. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 09:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==Adoption==
Done, Welcome aboard. If you are close to the Greenwich meridian timezone it will help. It allows for swifter responses. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 09:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

:Greenwich meridian, relates to GMT or Greenwich Mean time. Greenwich is an area of London, England south of the River Thames slight down river from the centre. Greenwich houses a major Naval Acadamy, or at least did.

:Thanks for your personal sketch. Most of mine you will get a flavour of by checking out my user page. Also extremely interested in ancient history. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oops missed the Who, just added it. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yes did see the message our responses crossed I think though.
::On the tuition front; Happy to help. However I will need for you to drag it out of me as I have no idea what you don't know so you will need to ask questions and I will attempt to answer. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==outreach program==
On this front don't get the idea that these are fully fledged jobs with formal job descriptions and clear 1, 2, 3 things to be done. However you would be welcome to get involved. The idea basically is to take every opportunity to find users/editors who have an interest in subject within our scope and promoting our work amongst them. And then maybe placing invites on their talk pages. Beyond that extra ideas a welcome. I terms of signing up for any of these jobs replace the vacancy tags with your user name in the form that others have. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Woodstock Nation (book) ==

I don't like to "rain on your parade", however as good as the book might be is is actually out of scope for this project. I'll let you take it off the collaboration page! However you could try placing it on the [[Wikipedia:What I am reading at the moment]] (even if you might be recording "history") and see if you get any interest. Bear in mind that Wikipedia is not for the promotion of material , even other peoples. It is for our writing of an online encyclopedia, period. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

:All I know about the book is the article itself. And that article appears to describe a non-fiction book, albeit a stream of consciousness written form. Out project is "fiction narrative prose" in scope. So if the article IS in scope it would need to be fictional. I know the boarders of fiction are blurred but this one seems reasonably well outside. Does that answer your question? :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::There is not a lot more than what I have just said. Ulysses is a fictional novel, Fear and Loathing is a fictional novel. How would you describe the content of this book. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==Novels tasks==
You might like to start with having ago at some new articles. Let me know if you have a go and I'll keep a watching brief on it. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticlesNeeded]] :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==[[Erich Maria Remarque]]==

What you could do until then is check out any existing article on this author's work (asuming some exist) and checking that they conform to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Style guidelines]] and the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticleTemplate]]. You might notice some "tension" between the content of these two, as they have been produced by different editors. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== [[Banquo]] ==

You didn't give any reasons at all why this isn't a GA. I'd like to see some. If you can't give any at all then it obviously should pass. Please post some reasons on the talk page soon. Thanks. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 15:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:Now I look at it, I think it just wasn't done right because you're a bit new. Before doing another GA review, please talk to your adopter. It's a bit complicated. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 15:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds good. Shouldn't be too big a problem. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 05:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Cool! You should try it out we've got a lot of things going on over there. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 05:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not too good on GA stuff but I believe what you should be doing is placing your input at the relevant page in [[Wikipedia:Good article nominations|nominations page]]. I'll check some more though. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 08:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Having said that I could be wrong - it looks like a similar appoach was taken with [[Talk:Terminator_2:_Judgment_Day]] and the companion entries on the [[Wikipedia:Good article nominations]] page. are supportive of these entries. It "might" be that the editor who reversed you was a stickler for getting detail right, or had an axe to grind. No idea, but :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 08:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

== Election Novel WikiProject ==

I'm very open to the idea of an Election - perhaps you could put an item on the next newsletter. All I would say is that we still have difficulty getting people to take a truly active part in the project itself anyway. The MilHist guys appear to have a set of editors with a wholly different level of commitment. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 08:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:It is a complete mixture of people who sign up and appear to do little, others sign up and edit article rather than the project pages, some start work and stop, some don't give that much time to it, etc etc. etc. However there are a few who do stirling work and can always be depended on, you can normally tell who they are by the amount of editing they have done to project pages and talk pages. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 08:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::On starting an election - I would take a look at [[WP:MILHIST]] and see how they do it and pretty much replicate that. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

::Particularly I would look at their [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators]] and their [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/February 2008]] actual voting pages. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== distribute to people's talk pages ==

That sounds like a new subject! Are you thinking of this as you have signed up to distribute the newsletter. It is really a task that is only practical for users with [[AWB]] which if you are a new user you probably don't have yet. Editors need to demonstrate a history of good editing and apply for the rights to use it. Otherwise such a distribution (which is as you say to all members, excluding some who don't want it and included some others who do) is a "very" long job. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 09:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:"how would i tip to the newsletter?". Not sure I understand. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::You just edit the newsletter "file" the next one can be found at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach/Newsletter_March_2008]]. You need to be careful with the format as it is structured into sections of a pseudo newspaper page, via tables etc. Just add content and if it is a new point start a new line with a "*" to give it a bullet point. give it a whirl - I'll watch for progress. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:::"how old you were, where did you study" - I was born in 1956 (you work the maths) it makes me old. I studied [[Librarianship]] at what was [[Newcastle Polytechnic]] between 1975 to 1978. Since then I started work in a wholesale and retail bookselling company where I got into computers; first operating them and then programming them. When the company relocated north I switch to programming for an Animal Feed company which a few years after joining moved to East Anglia. Which is where I now live. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 12:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

== Wiki Links ==

I noticed in the Newsletter contribution you have "<nowiki>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election]</nowiki>" which gives [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election] - bear in mind that to link winthin wikipedia all you need is <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election]]</nowiki> which gives [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election]] and that can be stylised by placing a "|" and making it look different. <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election|Election click here]]</nowiki> which would give [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election|Election click here]]. Hope that is helpful. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 12:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

==Sockpup issue==
I have replied to the user with the concern. Sorry for the delay in responding, I've just got back to wikipedia. I obviously didn't sign off properly last night and it looked as if I still was on. I have removed the Tag untill more evidence is produced and made a few stylistic changes to your user page - hope you didn't mind. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 09:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not interested enough in the guy to have chased it down too much. But some people try to get round disputes by changeing identity which is the main issue. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 13:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==own task force==
If I remember only one person took that as a response. I would wait a bit more and see how the debate turns out. I can tell you are keen. However it might be better to work in areas of current activity rather than start new ones just yet. You could have a look at the 19thC task force, where a greater sense of "classic" literature seems to be more the idea. Although it will cover "all" 19th century narrative fiction not just the "best". :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, so what you are really saying is "literature" is a measure of notability. i.e how much impact the piece has had on those that have read it and the subsequent further effects. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Newsletter distribution ==

It is pretty nearly there - I'll do this edition distribution as you are still fairly new and don't have access to AWB yet. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone gets it (in link form) unless they have indicated they either don't want it, or want the full expansion of it. Other editor not part of the project sometimes request the newsletter in either linked or expanded form. The exception qualifications are found on the [[WP:NOVO|Project outreach page]]. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Election ==

Was that question intended for [[User:Roger Davies|Roger]]? Or did I win something without knowing about it? ;-) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]] 14:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXII - March 2008 ==
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* An election has been proposed to elect a council that will govern the whole project for a month or more, if you would like to debate this, go to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Election|general discussion forum here]]
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* The project has currently 312 members, 7 joined & 0 leavers since the start of February 2008.
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* Last months collaboration brought few improvements it would be nice if more got involved with the one for this month.
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* "[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels/Short_story_task_force#Featured short stories?|Featured short stories?]]" discussion on the Short story task force talk page.
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* [[Penguin Group|Penguin]] is planning to offer [[audiobooks]] that are free of [[Digital rights management|digital copyright protection]] technology. ([http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/mar/04/digitalmusic.booksnews Guardian])
* Double [[Booker prize]] nominee, novelist [[Julian Rathbone]] dies on 28 February, aged 73. ([http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2261798,00.html Guardian])
* Mystery writer and romantic novelist [[Phyllis A. Whitney]] died on 8 February, aged 104. ([http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/American_mystery_writer_Phyllis_A._Whitney_dies_at_age_104 Wikinews])
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* The debate on "studying literature" is now [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/GeneralForum#Studying_Literature|taking place here]]. Please have a look and add to the debate.
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Welcome to the Twenty Second issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

[[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]], Initiating Editor 
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* This month's [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Collaboration|Collaboration]] has been selected by popular vote and is '''[[The Betrothed]]'''.
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Last month's challenge (''[[The Field of Vision]]'') was completed by member [[User:Elizabennet]] as a fairly basic "stub" if anyone knows more to enhance it, please do.
* The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is [[Norman Douglas]]' perhaps most famous work '''''[[South Wind ]]''''' ([http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&UID=1922 LE]).
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== Elections ==

{{tl|helpme}}
how do I start an election, like that of the military history wikiproject?
:You'd have to discuss things with your Wikiproject and organize a time, date, format, and reason for the election. Remember, though, that [[WP:DEMO|Wikipedia is not a democracy]], and things are usually decided by consensus, not voting. You should check to make sure an election is really necessary before you go to hold one. [[User:Hersfold|'''''Hersfold''''']] ([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]]) 17:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

::bear in mind what Hersfold says above and then have a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/May 2008]] where I have adapted and cut down the MILHIST election pages for our own purposes. I have assumed a few things about dates and timing and also adopted their terminology which I believe is not only a good set, it also "fits" with wikipedia's style of government and ideology. If we imply anything contrary to these we will be clobbered (rightly!) anyway. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Happy to run - pretty much doing the job currently anyway - just would rubberstamp the thing. On your side you might find that you're a bit new, keen enough for sure, if you feel you can stand a bit of close questioning go for it. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Questions about your views, plans etc for the project to challenge / support your candidacy. Check out the MILHIST voting to see the sort of thing you can expect. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

:At this stage I would like to encourage you to stay in. If only to keep the candidate count up it is of benefit. No one likes an election where there are no real choices so at least for the moment the more the better. What do you think? :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 09:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::Your proposal, I'll need to bear it in mind. Long way to go before that becomes relevant. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==WikiProject Novels - 1st Coordinators Election ==
An election has been proposed and has been set up for this project. Description of the roles etc., can be found at '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators]]'''. If you wish to stand, enter your candidacy before the end of March and ask your questions of anyone already standing at '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/May 2008]]'''. Voting will start on the 1st April and close at the end of April. The intention is for the appointments to last from May - November 2008. For other details check out the pages or ask. [[User:KevinalewisBot|KevinalewisBot]] ([[User talk:KevinalewisBot|talk]]) 12:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

==Novella==
Happy to give it a look. Did you want just an opinion or any sort of editorial input. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:Unless you are happy for the text to enter the public domain, don't post it here. I would email me. There is an option on my userpage to send and email, that way it just comes to me no one else. I assume by now you must trust me or you wouldn't have asked. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::Always a danger when you let someone else look. All I can say is I have a small amount of experience in this area and had no complaints so far. If you are unsure, don't send it. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Oxford==
Either Oxford or Cambridge are wonderful academic institutions with high reputations and high standards. Perhaps not quite as high as they once were. British education has gone through a protracted period of "dumbing down" in my view. However getting in would be hard and the entrance by no means easy. I thought you were abroad, how would that work? On a more sensitive issue (mine is none too clever either), you might need to bone up on your spelling a bit. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 10:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:Questions
:*"year 11" - Would that be the final year of high / secondary school?
:*"Would I still be raking in 2 million a year if I did get an Oxford Doctorate" - No that would depend on what you did with the doctorate in any subsequent career, but I'm sure you knew that!?
:Responses
:*"leave the cosy little life I have down under" - true
:*"and move to England to study" - not cheap
:*"which I think would be worth it" - only you can tell that
:*"I would learn a lot" - again true and not just the course studies
:How do you mean "Dumbing down"? - I probably misrepresent the institutions with that statement. My belief is that it is a trend in western society and made the more obvious when British education has had such a high standing. Also they are still high respected. I would take more than my say on it of course. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|Kevinalewis]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|(Talk Page)]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|(Desk)]] 11:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Speedy deletion of [[:Studying Literature]]==
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* If it was an archive of a talk page discussion then the title should have been [[talk:qxq/archive z]] where qxq is the title of the article itself and z is a number not currently used. -- [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 11:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Grouping ==
You wrote to me:
<blockquote>
Looking over those wikiprojects, I can see that there are an incredibly diverse amount of ideas floating through the ether, we shouldn't however, group them together under the one banner, but maybe have a leader for all of them, whilst they stil retain their indipendance, I will personally go to each of those project pages and post a banner asking for input on the subject.[[User:DangerTM|DangerTM]] ([[User talk:DangerTM|talk]]) 10:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
</blockquote>
:Some projects are so inert, it does seem to make sense to me to kick start some of the projects by merging them. Cheers! [[User:Wassupwestcoast|Wassupwestcoast]] ([[User talk:Wassupwestcoast|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== You're a stupid cunt ==

Fuck you dumb arse, your mum has a hairy cunt and I hope and pray that you die, no, fuck that, I wish you would die, if I had three wishes, one of them would be to have you dead, and the others would be so that everyone you knew hated your cunt like face.[[User:Andochine|Andochine]] ([[User talk:Andochine|talk]]) 09:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)