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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit table==<br />
"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |access-date=2024-05-05 |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, Norman Golightly, Douglas McClure<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title=’Orphan’ Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title=’Unknown’ Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russell Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy ‘Suburbicon’ disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller ‘Superfly’ Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror ‘Seance’ For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref> and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic ‘Replay’ -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller ‘Shell’(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
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! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
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| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Willman|first=Chris|title=TV Reviews: ‘Crypt’ Tales Subtle as a Sledgehammer|url= https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-10-ca-1204-story.html|date=June 10, 1989|website=LA Times}}</ref><br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Germain|first=David|title=’Ghost Ship’ best left on the sea floor|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/529628988/?terms=%22Ghost%20Ship%22%20Steve%20Beck&match=1|date=October 25, 2002|page=D4|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=Gothika|url= https://variety.com/2003/film/reviews/gothika-1200537956/|date=November 16, 2003|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hart|first=Hugh|title=Real scare for cast of ‘Reaping’|url= https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Real-scare-for-cast-of-Reaping-2605972.php|date=April 1, 2007|website=SF Gate}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Garcia |first=Víctor |title=Return to House on Haunted Hill |date=2007-10-16 |type=Crime, Fantasy, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0827782/|others=Amanda Righetti, Cerina Vincent, Erik Palladino |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, BUFO}}</ref><br />
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| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<ref>{{Cite web |date=2016-09-15 |title=Botched (2008) {{!}} BFI |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160915140444/http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b8c946d11|website=web.archive.org}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite web |title=WarnerBros.com {{!}} Rocknrolla {{!}} Movies |url=https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/rocknrolla |website=www.warnerbros.com}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Leydon|first=Joe|title=Eschelon Conspiracy|url= https://variety.com/2009/film/reviews/echelon-conspiracy-1200474311/|date=March 2, 2009|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Sena |first=Dominic |title=Whiteout |date=2009-09-11 |type=Action, Crime, Mystery |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365929/ | others=Kate Beckinsale, Gabriel Macht, Tom Skerritt |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Parker |first=Dave |title=The Hills Run Red |date=2009-09-29 |type=Horror, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907676/ |access-date=2024-04-17 |others=Sophie Monk, Tad Hilgenbrink, William Sadler |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, Fever Dreams}}</ref><br />
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| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]] <ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’arcy|first=David|title=Splice|url= https://www.screendaily.com/reviews/splice/5009958.article|date=January 25, 2010|website=Screen Daily}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<ref>{{Cite web |title=AFI{{!}}Catalog |url=https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/66750 |access-date=2024-04-17 |website=catalog.afi.com}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<ref>{{Citation |last=Lincoln |first=Todd |title=The Apparition |date=2012-08-24 |type=Horror, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1433822/ |others=Ashley Greene, Sebastian Stan, Tom Felton |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver’s Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>|<br />
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|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<ref>{{Citation |last=O&apos;Neill |first=Morgan |title=The Factory |date=2013-06-01 |type=Crime, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132285/ |others=John Cusack, Dallas Roberts, Vincent Messina |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Mel's Cite du Cinema, Silver Pictures}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Foundas|first=Scott|title=Film Review: ‘Getaway|url=https://variety.com/2013/film/reviews/getaway-review-1200590965/|date=August 28, 2013|website=Variety}}</ref> <br />
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|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
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| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys |others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]] ><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<ref>{{Citation |last=X |first=Director |title=Superfly |date=2018-06-13 |type=Action, Crime, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7690670/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 |others=Trevor Jackson, Jason Mitchell, Lex Scott Davis |publisher=Columbia Pictures, Silver Pictures, Sony Pictures Releasing}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Collis|first=Cork|title=A pregnancy turns terrifying in trailer horror show The Expecting|url= https://ew.com/tv/the-expecting-trailer/|date=October 5, 2020|website=Entertainment Weekly}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Mack|first=Andrew|title=Simon Barrett’s Seance Heading to Shudder And RLJE Films|url= https://screenanarchy.com/2021/02/simon-barretts-seance-heading-to-shudder-and-rlje-films.html|date=February 26, 2021|website=Screen Anarchy}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Goff|first=Oscar|title=Review”Orphan: First Kill (2022) Dir. William Brent Bell|url= https://bostonhassle.com/review-orphan-first-kill-2022-dir-william-brent-bell/|date=August 19, 2022|website=Boston Hassle}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]] <ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the conversation, DisneyMetalhead. I have made the changes.[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::DisneyMetalhead did not give explicit permisssion to make these changes, so I have reverted them. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::@[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] Not a bad rewrite (and definitely overall an improvement!), but I'm noticing a couple issues here:<br />
::::1. Several citations to IMDB, which [[WP:IMDB|isn't a reliable source]]. Can you replace those with something which isn't user generated?<br />
::::2. "The company has worked with directors such as Guy Ritchie, Shane Black, George Clooney, Mary Harron, Walter Hill, and Simon Barrett." in the lead seems like undue weight, I'd remove it.<br />
::::3. I notice that "While most of the company's films were initially poorly reviewed by critics, their 2009 film Splice eventually received better reviews" is removed from the original. I understand that this was uncited, but as you are a COI editor I am slightly uncomfortable approving a change that removes possibly accurate negative information. Are there citations for the overall receptions of the company's films, whether positive or negative?<br />
::::If the above 3 changes are made I'm happy to call this approved, or if the first two are made and the editor confirms that they looked for sources on the reception and couldn't find anything. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 20:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::::{{u|Rusalkii}}, I really appreciate your input.<br />
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::::: 1. Re the IMDB citations - I genuinely did not know what to do with this filmography chart. I didn't create it - it is currently listed on the page without proper sourcing. I wanted to preserve as much of the list as I could while including sources, but aside from IMDB, not all the films have great source material. I have updated the draft to add better sourcing wherever I could, but some of the films only have third party sourcing from questionable publications (such as https://screenrant.com/dark-castle-entertainment-ranked-best-worst/ and https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Video_Clips/Warner/Video_Warner_Previews_Interactive_Features_on_Haunted_Hill_Blu-ray_HD_DVD_/908). I wasn't sure if I should remove the chart from my draft completely, or leave it in with IMDB and other sources. I trust your judgment - if you think the chart should be changed so that the page can be updated, then feel free to go ahead and make the edits you see fit.<br />
::::: 2. I removed the sentence about the directors as you suggested.<br />
::::: 3. I understand your concern about the removed sentence. I removed it because it was unsourced, and the closest thing I found to the removed sentence in the sources is the following quote from the screenrant article that I shared above - I don't know how reliable a publication it is, but if you would like to use it in the article that is fine with me.:<br />
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:::::*While most of Dark Castle Entertainment’s films haven’t received glowing reviews from critics, many of them have modest ratings from viewers who enjoy them for what they are: a time capsule of early 2000s-era horror films. While the acting is cheesy and the special effects look very… of their time, there are quite a few of them that are great fun, however, choosing the right one is key. <br />
:::::Thank you for taking the time to review my edits - I hope you'll consider tweaking them to your liking and implementing them to improve the page. Thanks, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::::: {{Respond|greencheck2|Done}} <!-- Template:ECOI -->Screenrant is an okay source, I'd use it in the absence of anything else. However I'm not entirely sure how to work it into the draft as it stands, ideally you'd have a "reception" section or similar but I can't find any other material for it. I'm going to publish this as-is (made a few minor tweaks) so the request doesn't languish forever and see what I can do with it later.<br />
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Re: IMDB & other poor quality sources, I'm leaving it for now because it's an improvement over the previous and the information isn't controversial (and honestly could just be cited to the movie credit themselves, if anyone would take the trouble to actually check them). [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you Rusalkii, I think the page looks great. I really appreciate your help. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rusalkii&diff=1238959329User talk:Rusalkii2024-08-06T15:57:01Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Responding to your feedback for Dark Castle Entertainment */</p>
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== Question from [[User:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|Arunachala Ramanarpanam]] (06:02, 8 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hello, Greetings...<br />
Can you please help me to create the page about Swami Ramanagiri and move the page to mainspace.<br />
I have already created the page in my sandbox. i dont know whether it is under review or it is just sitting in my sandbox.<br />
Please Help... Thank you very much... --[[User:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|Arunachala Ramanarpanam]] ([[User talk:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|talk]]) 06:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Looks like you figured it out, let me know if you need help with anything else! [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Afghan1235|Afghan1235]] (02:01, 11 July 2024) ==<br />
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How to make the Wikipedia come up on google when you search it --[[User:Afghan1235|Afghan1235]] ([[User talk:Afghan1235|talk]]) 02:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! For an article to show up in a google search, it needs to first be [[WP:NPP|reviewed by a new page patroller]]. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 19:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== July 2024; Unexplained content deletion ==<br />
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[[File:Information.svg|alt=Information icon|25x25px]] Hello, I'm [[User:Aferditaa|Aferditaa]]. I noticed that you recently [[Wikipedia:Content removal|removed content]] from [[Vaso Čubrilović|Vaso Cubrilovic]] &nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can reply here or in the article talk page. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --><br />
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[[User:Aferditaa|Aferditaa]] ([[User talk:Aferditaa|talk]]) 22:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Oops, I saw the first line ("he became" -> "hebecame") and not the major other changes in the same edit. Thanks for the catch. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 22:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::no worries! thanks for catching that typo, I probably would not have noticed otherwise :-) [[User:Aferditaa|Aferditaa]] ([[User talk:Aferditaa|talk]]) 22:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Referencing a Wikipedia article ==<br />
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My previous discussion with you is now archived in May 2024. I discussed editing existing articles and the possibility of posting an already-written article on Wikipedia about myself (not written by anyone I know). You kindly suggested that I post the article and that you will take a look it for possible posting on Wikipedia. Before doing that, I want to include a reference to an existing Wikipedia article. How would I do that? Is there a specific format for that? Note that in our previous exchange you told me that I should login before sending messages. I have now registered myself and have the login name of Joerut -- my previous messages, before I was registered, were from Joseph Rosenstein. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 01:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:Joerut|Joerut]] if by "reference" you mean a citation to prove a fact, you should not cite wikipedia articles. Instead, cite whatever the article that you're looking at uses as a source. If you just mean including a link, you can surround the title with brackets, like so: <nowiki>[[Example]]</nowiki> [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 01:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Good point! The Wikipedia article that I wanted to cite did not provide a source for a statement that it made. So I should find an appropriate source and add it to the existing Wikipedia article, and use the source in my article as well. Thank you. Stay tuned. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 01:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Success! I have found a link to an appropriate source and (Success again!) I have added that to the existing Wikipedia article. I have also added it to the article about me, putting the link in double brackets, as in <nowiki>[[Example]]</nowiki> above. Now I need to exit and visit the May 2024 archive where you told me how to upload the article for your review. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::I have now published my proposed Wikipedia page as a draft, as you suggested. I hope that you will have access to it and will be able to review it. I notice that all the references got screwed up, and that I will have to figure out how to unscrew them. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 19:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Maira59|Maira59]] (06:25, 12 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hello! How can i edit any links on wikipedia because i edit some links and paste my website link in them but it is removed after some time? --[[User:Maira59|Maira59]] ([[User talk:Maira59|talk]]) 06:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! In general, our [[WP:EL|External links]] and [[WP:COIE|conflict of interest]] policy discourage adding links to your own website. If you still think they should be added, open a [[WP:EDITREQ|edit request]] on the talk page so that an uninvolved editor can evaluate them. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 02:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Dark Castle Entertainment ==<br />
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Hi Rusalkii, following your feedback I've updated my suggested language for the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. Would you be willing to take another look and implement the edits? Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Queenkikay|Queenkikay]] on [[Draft:Queen Kikay]] (17:37, 28 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hello I want to know on how to add my biography about me, I already have a google knowledge panel --[[User:Queenkikay|Queenkikay]] ([[User talk:Queenkikay|talk]]) 17:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:hi @[[User:Queenkikay|Queenkikay]], Wikipedia generally discourages directly writing an article about yourself, see [[wP:COIE|our conflict of interest policy]]. If you still want to go ahead, collect at least three independent, reliable sources (i.e. not by you, not by your organization, not social media etc) with significant information about you (not one-two sentences), write a draft based on the information in them, and submit it to [[WP:AFC]], where an independent editor will review it. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Adewale oluwatofunmi|Adewale oluwatofunmi]] (21:00, 28 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hi 👋👋 --[[User:Adewale oluwatofunmi|Adewale oluwatofunmi]] ([[User talk:Adewale oluwatofunmi|talk]]) 21:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! Let me know if you have any questions about editing here :) [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:PRunci|PRunci]] (14:43, 29 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hi Panini! Thanks for your help. I have been reviewing our Wikipedia page (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory) and found many factual errors/outdated items. What would be the best way for me to get the page updated?<br />
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Paul --[[User:PRunci|PRunci]] ([[User talk:PRunci|talk]]) 14:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Paul - you'll want to make a [[Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request|COI edit request]]. <br />
:(Also, you may have me confused with someone else - I don't go by Panini and I don't think we've ever interacted before) [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Editor experience invitation ==<br />
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Hi Rusalkii :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview [[User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections|here]]. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 04:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Done, thank you for the invitation! [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for adding your perspective! I was also a fan of project moss as a newbie (given my username, it felt like a sign from the universe). I noticed you said you edit dog breed articles sometimes... is there any chance you might be interested on working together on [[Draft:Dangerous dog|this draft]]? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh man. I keep meaning to do a lit review on the actual incidence of breed-specific dog bites, but I'm not entirely sure that would be contextually appropriate here, it looks like you're mostly focusing on specific laws? But [[Breed-specific legislation]], which is also not really the place for it. I think I'm slightly confused about the scope here - is it any concept of "dangerous dog", is it the legal concept, something else? [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::The legal concept of a dangerous dog, yeah. I'm trying to avoid duplicate content where I can but some areas define specific breeds as dangerous dogs in addition to individual dogs so it's not entirely avoidable. There's some further context on the talk page if you wish to chip in. Everything is still very barebones right now and the more the merrier :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::Got it. I dropped some sources onto the talk page though I'm not sure how on topic they'll end up being, I might take a closer look after work today. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Sagar daa|Sagar daa]] on [[Hyphanet]] (09:55, 1 August 2024) ==<br />
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My gf mobile hack --[[User:Sagar daa|Sagar daa]] ([[User talk:Sagar daa|talk]]) 09:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 17:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== New Geoffrey von Maltzahn request ==<br />
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Hello, [[User:Rusalkii|Rusalkii]]. I've posted another request on the Geoffrey von Maltzahn article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Geoffrey_von_Maltzahn Talk page] that I'm hoping you can look at. I took a stab at trimming down the Career section by removing superfluous details and focusing only on the most notable moments in his career, particularly those that have received ample media coverage. I would be grateful if you could review the request and let me know what you think. Many thanks. [[User:Lindy D at Flagship|Lindy D at Flagship]] ([[User talk:Lindy D at Flagship|talk]]) 19:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about Draft:Blackfoot orthographies ==<br />
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I have a question. Why my draft got declined, it was like thoses other article about the language, like example english orthography has is own article, but for Blackfoot it doesn't, and i made a article about the blackfoot orthographies, it was a separate article for blackfoot language article. [[User:ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ]] ([[User talk:ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|talk]]) 06:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ]], it would be great to have an article about Blackfoot orthography and I appreciate you writing one. The problem is that there weren't enough sources to back up the information in the article. For example, [[English orthography]] has a large bibliography indicating where we can check the information. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Basel zmero|Basel zmero]] (14:06, 5 August 2024) ==<br />
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مرحبا يعطيك العافيھ عملولي حظر على تتطبيق طلبات بعد ما شحنت بمحفظة طلبات خمسين دينار --[[User:Basel zmero|Basel zmero]] ([[User talk:Basel zmero|talk]]) 14:06, 5 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, unfortunately I don't speak Arabic. You may want to try ar.wikipedia.com.<br />
:مرحبًا، لسوء الحظ لا أتحدث العربية. يمكنك تجربة ar.wikipedia.com. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 05:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Responding to your feedback for Dark Castle Entertainment ==<br />
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Hi Rusalkii, I'm sorry to bother you, but my [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates|edit request]] for [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] has been up for a while now. I've reached out to many editors to get the community involved, but I'm not getting any engagement. I addressed your feedback, can you please take another look and let me know if my response is sufficient? I appreciate your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Blofeld&diff=1237796310User talk:Dr. Blofeld2024-07-31T14:12:15Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Dark Castle Entertainment */ new section</p>
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== July music ==<br />
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The [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#1 Jul|story is today]] about the first published composition by [[Arnold Schönberg]] which I was [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 May|blessed to hear]]. Listen, and perhaps read what [[Alma Mahler]] (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Can't believe it's July already! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 12:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Jul|Today's story]] is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - I worked on [[Lando Bartolini|a tenor]] today that you started ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks Gerda. It's a full time job isn't it keeping up with all the deaths! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 16:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: All of them would be killing, - I'm selective. This person was interesting: all reviews I saw were negative ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yeah, that's the problem with editing Wikipedia, you need to self discipline what to edit on here, otherwise it is easy to spend all day on here! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 17:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: I agree ;) - 3 July is the birthday of [[Leoš Janáček]], and I'm happy I had [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#3 Jul|a meaningful DYK in 2021]]. It's also the birthday of [[Franz Kafka]], and I uploaded pics from his family's album [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024#27 Jun|seen in Berlin]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: [[Libuše Domanínská]], the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, [[Tamara Milashkina]] became GA and [[Lando Bartolini]] went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in [[Il tabarro]] in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to [[Statue of Liberty|Liberty]]) up to Calaf in [[Turandot]] in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of [[User talk:Brianboulton|Brian Boulton]] who was a pioneer of {{diff|Percyc Grainger|579193399||a concise infobox}} in 2013. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: On a friend's birthday - she is pictured on my talk - I have another [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates|RD death article]] that needs reviewing, [[Martti Wallén]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Pictured on the Main page: Brian's [[Mozart family grand tour]], my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Jul|story today]], and [[Mozart]] related to all three items of [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|music]] on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, the bass, and [[Liana Isakadze]], a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Found a bit more. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Jul|Today's story]] is about her, an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Jul|I remember today]] today Bach's 1724 cantata for this Sunday which is unusual in many respects. Another woman needs attention for [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates|RD]], [[Marina Kondratyeva]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: She's on the Main page now. My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Jul|story today]] is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about [[Die Entführung aus dem Serail]], opera by [[Mozart]], while [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#15 Jul|yesterday's]] was - because of the TFA - about [[Les contes d'Hoffmann]], opera by [[Jacques Offenbach|Offenbach]], - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Yesterday I listened in concert to Mozart's [[Clarinet Quintet (Mozart)|Clarinet Quintet]], with [[Sabine Meyer]] (click on music, always). - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#19 Jul|Today's story]] is about [[Ruth Hesse]], with a pic in the article only, sadly. I found it difficult to point at a YouTube sample, because yes, her signature roles - the Nurse and Brangäne - exist in great full-length operas with great casts, but hard to find her. - Talking of YouTube: today I was pointed at [[Elijah (oratorio)|Elijah]] by a friend who performed in the concert of the [[Dessoff Choirs]] in their centenary year, and I'm quite impressed by samples (beginning and [[Wer bis an das Ende beharrt|No. 32]] where I linked it) - enjoy. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jul|Today's story]] is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially [[View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11]]]. Interesting video - in German, so you may profit more than others. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hi Gerda, not been ignoring you, I've not been here! Hope you're enjoying the summer! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 11:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::: Thank you, yes, see (and listen to) music, and look at pics, cows the last, moving their ears at an amazing speed to fend off insects, - imagine! Hope you also enjoy summer! How is the hay fever doing? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Fine thanks, it's typically only bad from mid to late June. June 18-28 is roughly the worst period! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 14:14, 20 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Very sad about Sarah Gibson, seemed to be a lovely person, very smiley. [https://www.facebook.com/atlantasymphony/videos/composer-pianist-sarah-gibson-remembers-her-asyo-experience/697569118113859/ here]. Thanks for the article! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 14:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: Thank you, - yes, that interview is also in the article, - she uses words such as "positive" and "celebrate" a lot, and then that outlook "30 - 50 years from now" ... - tough. - [[April Cantelo|Today's]] was not as hard emotionally - she was age 96 - but is a horrible puzzle of missing references. Any help welcome for recordings, - there must have been an overview but sadly 404 error. The bio - thank goodness - was mostly covered by the Telegraph obit, written with care. I don't know what to do with the other "obit" which is simply a mirror of what our article was ''yesterday'', full of mistakes ... --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: Both are on the Main page now, and [[Gerhard Klingenberg]] under DYK, head of the Burgtheater for a while (where Mozart's ''Entführung'' was premiered). Our DYK people wanted to just say that he took a stage name ... - the current hook is a bit better, but how can you say in 200 chars that an Austrian actor with an early career in directing follows Brecht's invitation to East Berlin? ... dared to invite French and English directors to the ''Burg''? ... dared to play there - at the temple of tradition - controversial new plays? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: Thinking of you three times: just uploaded pics of [[Emsbach]] that you created, another pic of Kurhaus Wiesbaden, before a concert on 17 July, and will hopefully take another today, around another concert there. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b]] will have [[Jerzy Artysz|a baritone]], [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 Jul|a violinist]], a composer and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21 Jul|a Bach cantata]], - almost too much, and the composer's article, [[Wolfgang Rihm]], should be better, help wanted. - Plenty of music on my parents anniversary day ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikiproject ==<br />
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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to [[Uliger]], would you be interested in a taskforce on [[oral tradition]]? [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 22:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't have much time to be involved with WikiProjects myself, but see if others are interested. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 10:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::So far we have around 25 definites and 5 interested but busy [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 10:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Dark Castle Entertainment ==<br />
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Hi Dr. Blofeld, I am trying to update the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. I see that you are a member of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers]] and that you have successfully worked on many articles, so I hope you'll consider helping to update the page. I posted an edit request at [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates]]. The request has been up for a while now. I have gotten some feedback from the community and I've tried hard to address all the points that have been mentioned. Would you be willing to take a look? Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 14:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rusalkii&diff=1236037759User talk:Rusalkii2024-07-22T15:01:04Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Edits to Dark Castle Entertainment */ new section</p>
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== Question from [[User:Mrs. Meena C|Mrs. Meena C]] (22:15, 24 June 2024) ==<br />
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How do I add a citation to my edit?<br />
I have the web address I don't understand the format to add a citation as "proof" for the information I'm adding. --[[User:Mrs. Meena C|Mrs. Meena C]] ([[User talk:Mrs. Meena C|talk]]) 22:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:In the visual editor, you should see a button in the top bar that looks like a quotation mark. If you click it, you should get a box to enter a URL in, at which point for most websites it'll generate one for you automatically. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 02:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Alainaluvspizza|Alainaluvspizza]] (19:43, 25 June 2024) ==<br />
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How do I create my own article --[[User:Alainaluvspizza|Alainaluvspizza]] ([[User talk:Alainaluvspizza|talk]]) 19:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:You can create an article by going through the [[WP:Article creation wizard]], though if by "own article" you mean an article about yourself that is [[WP:COIE|discouraged by our conflict of interest policy]]. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 20:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:AbdulJudas|AbdulJudas]] on [[Sidney Kingsley]] (20:30, 26 June 2024) ==<br />
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How do I add a photo? --[[User:AbdulJudas|AbdulJudas]] ([[User talk:AbdulJudas|talk]]) 20:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:In the visual editor, you can go to "Insert" -> Images and media in the top bar. This will let you search through [[WP:COMMONS|commons]] for a picture, or upload your own. If you do upload a picture, make sure it's uploaded with a [[WP:Image use policy|compatible license]] -- something you took yourself which you can release, or something clearly labeled by the authors as public domain, CC-by-SA, or other license from this list: [[Wikipedia:File copyright tags/Free licenses]]. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 20:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|Arunachala Ramanarpanam]] (06:02, 8 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hello, Greetings...<br />
Can you please help me to create the page about Swami Ramanagiri and move the page to mainspace.<br />
I have already created the page in my sandbox. i dont know whether it is under review or it is just sitting in my sandbox.<br />
Please Help... Thank you very much... --[[User:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|Arunachala Ramanarpanam]] ([[User talk:Arunachala Ramanarpanam|talk]]) 06:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Looks like you figured it out, let me know if you need help with anything else! [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 18:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Afghan1235|Afghan1235]] (02:01, 11 July 2024) ==<br />
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How to make the Wikipedia come up on google when you search it --[[User:Afghan1235|Afghan1235]] ([[User talk:Afghan1235|talk]]) 02:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! For an article to show up in a google search, it needs to first be [[WP:NPP|reviewed by a new page patroller]]. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 19:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== July 2024; Unexplained content deletion ==<br />
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:Oops, I saw the first line ("he became" -> "hebecame") and not the major other changes in the same edit. Thanks for the catch. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 22:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::no worries! thanks for catching that typo, I probably would not have noticed otherwise :-) [[User:Aferditaa|Aferditaa]] ([[User talk:Aferditaa|talk]]) 22:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Referencing a Wikipedia article ==<br />
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My previous discussion with you is now archived in May 2024. I discussed editing existing articles and the possibility of posting an already-written article on Wikipedia about myself (not written by anyone I know). You kindly suggested that I post the article and that you will take a look it for possible posting on Wikipedia. Before doing that, I want to include a reference to an existing Wikipedia article. How would I do that? Is there a specific format for that? Note that in our previous exchange you told me that I should login before sending messages. I have now registered myself and have the login name of Joerut -- my previous messages, before I was registered, were from Joseph Rosenstein. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 01:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:Joerut|Joerut]] if by "reference" you mean a citation to prove a fact, you should not cite wikipedia articles. Instead, cite whatever the article that you're looking at uses as a source. If you just mean including a link, you can surround the title with brackets, like so: <nowiki>[[Example]]</nowiki> [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 01:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Good point! The Wikipedia article that I wanted to cite did not provide a source for a statement that it made. So I should find an appropriate source and add it to the existing Wikipedia article, and use the source in my article as well. Thank you. Stay tuned. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 01:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Success! I have found a link to an appropriate source and (Success again!) I have added that to the existing Wikipedia article. I have also added it to the article about me, putting the link in double brackets, as in <nowiki>[[Example]]</nowiki> above. Now I need to exit and visit the May 2024 archive where you told me how to upload the article for your review. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::I have now published my proposed Wikipedia page as a draft, as you suggested. I hope that you will have access to it and will be able to review it. I notice that all the references got screwed up, and that I will have to figure out how to unscrew them. [[User:Joerut|Joerut]] ([[User talk:Joerut|talk]]) 19:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Question from [[User:Maira59|Maira59]] (06:25, 12 July 2024) ==<br />
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Hello! How can i edit any links on wikipedia because i edit some links and paste my website link in them but it is removed after some time? --[[User:Maira59|Maira59]] ([[User talk:Maira59|talk]]) 06:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi! In general, our [[WP:EL|External links]] and [[WP:COIE|conflict of interest]] policy discourage adding links to your own website. If you still think they should be added, open a [[WP:EDITREQ|edit request]] on the talk page so that an uninvolved editor can evaluate them. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 02:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== ''The Signpost'': 22 July 2024 ==<br />
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== Edits to Dark Castle Entertainment ==<br />
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Hi Rusalkii, following your feedback I've updated my suggested language for the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. Would you be willing to take another look and implement the edits? Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:OEG_Inc.&diff=1234670342Talk:OEG Inc.2024-07-15T15:09:16Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Misplaced content */</p>
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== Retail Cannabis content addition ==<br />
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I am looking to add some content about OEG's recent work to this article, specifically about the Group's 2019 entry into retail cannabis, as supported by these sources:<br />
*https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/<br />
*https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/<br />
*https://www.oeg.ca/our-businesses/retail-cannabis (a primary source, only for reference)<br />
Similarly, the abovementioned sources reflect the rebranding of Oilers Entertainment Group as OEG Inc. Can the article be renamed accordingly? [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I've added a mention of Tokyo Smoke. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 16:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::I am marking this request as reviewed because the proposed changes appear to have been implemented. Best, '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082529">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T•</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 04:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Requested move 14 February 2023 ==<br />
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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Uncontested RM <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' ([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]]) 00:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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[[:Oilers Entertainment Group]] → {{no redirect|OEG Inc.}} – Oilers Entertainment Group recently rebranded, now known as OEG Inc. substantiated by [https://www.oeg.ca/about-us][https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/] and [https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/]. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Misplaced content ==<br />
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On June 25, an editor inserted content about CRA investigations of the OEG Inc.'s CEO, [[Jurgen Schreiber]]. This information has nothing to do with OEG Inc. or its operations; details of Schreiber's alleged personal financial misdoings belong on his page, not on OEG Inc.'s. I'd be grateful for the community's consideration of this change. Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:>''"This information has nothing to do with OEG Inc"'' That's a stretch. He's literally the CEO. It can stay. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 16:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{Respond|xmark|Not done:}} <!-- Template:ECOI -->Declined per 162 etc. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 21:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thanks {{u|162 etc.}} for your prompt review and response. I understand that Schreiber's role as CEO makes '''him''' relevant to this article, of course. However, the CRA investigations into his personal finances do not relate to his role at OEG Inc. in any way; OEG is only mentioned in the investigation as Schreiber's employer. [[WP:Coatrack#The Flea|Wikipedia guidelines]] indicate that this kind of personal information should not be included on a company page. Thanks again, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1234669800Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment2024-07-15T15:05:44Z<p>DJ for Katz: respond to Rusalkii</p>
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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Hi, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I noticed that the current page is outdated and is lacking a number of sources. In order to update the information on the page while simultaneously adding the missing citations and removing unsourced material, I thought it would be easiest to propose a rewrite of the article. You can see my suggestions by clicking below.<br />
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| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |access-date=2024-05-05 |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, Norman Golightly, Douglas McClure<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title=’Orphan’ Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title=’Unknown’ Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russell Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy ‘Suburbicon’ disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller ‘Superfly’ Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror ‘Seance’ For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref> and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic ‘Replay’ -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller ‘Shell’(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Willman|first=Chris|title=TV Reviews: ‘Crypt’ Tales Subtle as a Sledgehammer|url= https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-10-ca-1204-story.html|date=June 10, 1989|website=LA Times}}</ref><br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
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|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Germain|first=David|title=’Ghost Ship’ best left on the sea floor|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/529628988/?terms=%22Ghost%20Ship%22%20Steve%20Beck&match=1|date=October 25, 2002|page=D4|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=Gothika|url= https://variety.com/2003/film/reviews/gothika-1200537956/|date=November 16, 2003|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
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|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hart|first=Hugh|title=Real scare for cast of ‘Reaping’|url= https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Real-scare-for-cast-of-Reaping-2605972.php|date=April 1, 2007|website=SF Gate}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Garcia |first=Víctor |title=Return to House on Haunted Hill |date=2007-10-16 |type=Crime, Fantasy, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0827782/|others=Amanda Righetti, Cerina Vincent, Erik Palladino |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, BUFO}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<ref>{{Cite web |date=2016-09-15 |title=Botched (2008) {{!}} BFI |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160915140444/http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b8c946d11|website=web.archive.org}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite web |title=WarnerBros.com {{!}} Rocknrolla {{!}} Movies |url=https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/rocknrolla |website=www.warnerbros.com}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Leydon|first=Joe|title=Eschelon Conspiracy|url= https://variety.com/2009/film/reviews/echelon-conspiracy-1200474311/|date=March 2, 2009|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Sena |first=Dominic |title=Whiteout |date=2009-09-11 |type=Action, Crime, Mystery |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365929/ | others=Kate Beckinsale, Gabriel Macht, Tom Skerritt |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Parker |first=Dave |title=The Hills Run Red |date=2009-09-29 |type=Horror, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907676/ |access-date=2024-04-17 |others=Sophie Monk, Tad Hilgenbrink, William Sadler |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, Fever Dreams}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]] <ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’arcy|first=David|title=Splice|url= https://www.screendaily.com/reviews/splice/5009958.article|date=January 25, 2010|website=Screen Daily}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<ref>{{Cite web |title=AFI{{!}}Catalog |url=https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/66750 |access-date=2024-04-17 |website=catalog.afi.com}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<ref>{{Citation |last=Lincoln |first=Todd |title=The Apparition |date=2012-08-24 |type=Horror, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1433822/ |others=Ashley Greene, Sebastian Stan, Tom Felton |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver’s Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>|<br />
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|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<ref>{{Citation |last=O&apos;Neill |first=Morgan |title=The Factory |date=2013-06-01 |type=Crime, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132285/ |others=John Cusack, Dallas Roberts, Vincent Messina |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Mel's Cite du Cinema, Silver Pictures}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Foundas|first=Scott|title=Film Review: ‘Getaway|url=https://variety.com/2013/film/reviews/getaway-review-1200590965/|date=August 28, 2013|website=Variety}}</ref> <br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
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| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys |others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]] ><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<ref>{{Citation |last=X |first=Director |title=Superfly |date=2018-06-13 |type=Action, Crime, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7690670/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 |others=Trevor Jackson, Jason Mitchell, Lex Scott Davis |publisher=Columbia Pictures, Silver Pictures, Sony Pictures Releasing}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Collis|first=Cork|title=A pregnancy turns terrifying in trailer horror show The Expecting|url= https://ew.com/tv/the-expecting-trailer/|date=October 5, 2020|website=Entertainment Weekly}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Mack|first=Andrew|title=Simon Barrett’s Seance Heading to Shudder And RLJE Films|url= https://screenanarchy.com/2021/02/simon-barretts-seance-heading-to-shudder-and-rlje-films.html|date=February 26, 2021|website=Screen Anarchy}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Goff|first=Oscar|title=Review”Orphan: First Kill (2022) Dir. William Brent Bell|url= https://bostonhassle.com/review-orphan-first-kill-2022-dir-william-brent-bell/|date=August 19, 2022|website=Boston Hassle}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]] <ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
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|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the conversation, DisneyMetalhead. I have made the changes.[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::DisneyMetalhead did not give explicit permisssion to make these changes, so I have reverted them. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::@[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] Not a bad rewrite (and definitely overall an improvement!), but I'm noticing a couple issues here:<br />
::::1. Several citations to IMDB, which [[WP:IMDB|isn't a reliable source]]. Can you replace those with something which isn't user generated?<br />
::::2. "The company has worked with directors such as Guy Ritchie, Shane Black, George Clooney, Mary Harron, Walter Hill, and Simon Barrett." in the lead seems like undue weight, I'd remove it.<br />
::::3. I notice that "While most of the company's films were initially poorly reviewed by critics, their 2009 film Splice eventually received better reviews" is removed from the original. I understand that this was uncited, but as you are a COI editor I am slightly uncomfortable approving a change that removes possibly accurate negative information. Are there citations for the overall receptions of the company's films, whether positive or negative?<br />
::::If the above 3 changes are made I'm happy to call this approved, or if the first two are made and the editor confirms that they looked for sources on the reception and couldn't find anything. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 20:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::::{{u|Rusalkii}}, I really appreciate your input.<br />
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::::: 1. Re the IMDB citations - I genuinely did not know what to do with this filmography chart. I didn't create it - it is currently listed on the page without proper sourcing. I wanted to preserve as much of the list as I could while including sources, but aside from IMDB, not all the films have great source material. I have updated the draft to add better sourcing wherever I could, but some of the films only have third party sourcing from questionable publications (such as https://screenrant.com/dark-castle-entertainment-ranked-best-worst/ and https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Video_Clips/Warner/Video_Warner_Previews_Interactive_Features_on_Haunted_Hill_Blu-ray_HD_DVD_/908). I wasn't sure if I should remove the chart from my draft completely, or leave it in with IMDB and other sources. I trust your judgment - if you think the chart should be changed so that the page can be updated, then feel free to go ahead and make the edits you see fit.<br />
::::: 2. I removed the sentence about the directors as you suggested.<br />
::::: 3. I understand your concern about the removed sentence. I removed it because it was unsourced, and the closest thing I found to the removed sentence in the sources is the following quote from the screenrant article that I shared above - I don't know how reliable a publication it is, but if you would like to use it in the article that is fine with me.:<br />
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:::::*While most of Dark Castle Entertainment’s films haven’t received glowing reviews from critics, many of them have modest ratings from viewers who enjoy them for what they are: a time capsule of early 2000s-era horror films. While the acting is cheesy and the special effects look very… of their time, there are quite a few of them that are great fun, however, choosing the right one is key. <br />
:::::Thank you for taking the time to review my edits - I hope you'll consider tweaking them to your liking and implementing them to improve the page. Thanks, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1234669595Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment2024-07-15T15:04:06Z<p>DJ for Katz: Updated draft as per comments on Talk page</p>
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit table==<br />
"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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Hi, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I noticed that the current page is outdated and is lacking a number of sources. In order to update the information on the page while simultaneously adding the missing citations and removing unsourced material, I thought it would be easiest to propose a rewrite of the article. You can see my suggestions by clicking below.<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |access-date=2024-05-05 |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, Norman Golightly, Douglas McClure<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film ‘Book of Chaos’(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title=’Orphan’ Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title=’Unknown’ Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title=’Orphan: First Kill’ Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic ‘Seance’ Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To ‘Werewolves Within’ – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russell Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy ‘Suburbicon’ disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller ‘Superfly’ Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror ‘Seance’ For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref> and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic ‘Replay’ -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller ‘Shell’(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Willman|first=Chris|title=TV Reviews: ‘Crypt’ Tales Subtle as a Sledgehammer|url= https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-10-ca-1204-story.html|date=June 10, 1989|website=LA Times}}</ref><br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Germain|first=David|title=’Ghost Ship’ best left on the sea floor|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/529628988/?terms=%22Ghost%20Ship%22%20Steve%20Beck&match=1|date=October 25, 2002|page=D4|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=Gothika|url= https://variety.com/2003/film/reviews/gothika-1200537956/|date=November 16, 2003|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s ‘House of Wax’ Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Hart|first=Hugh|title=Real scare for cast of ‘Reaping’|url= https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Real-scare-for-cast-of-Reaping-2605972.php|date=April 1, 2007|website=SF Gate}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Garcia |first=Víctor |title=Return to House on Haunted Hill |date=2007-10-16 |type=Crime, Fantasy, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0827782/|others=Amanda Righetti, Cerina Vincent, Erik Palladino |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, BUFO}}</ref><br />
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|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<ref>{{Cite web |date=2016-09-15 |title=Botched (2008) {{!}} BFI |url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160915140444/http://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b8c946d11|website=web.archive.org}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Cite web |title=WarnerBros.com {{!}} Rocknrolla {{!}} Movies |url=https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/rocknrolla |website=www.warnerbros.com}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Leydon|first=Joe|title=Eschelon Conspiracy|url= https://variety.com/2009/film/reviews/echelon-conspiracy-1200474311/|date=March 2, 2009|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Sena |first=Dominic |title=Whiteout |date=2009-09-11 |type=Action, Crime, Mystery |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365929/ | others=Kate Beckinsale, Gabriel Macht, Tom Skerritt |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Parker |first=Dave |title=The Hills Run Red |date=2009-09-29 |type=Horror, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907676/ |access-date=2024-04-17 |others=Sophie Monk, Tad Hilgenbrink, William Sadler |publisher=Warner Premiere, Dark Castle Entertainment, Fever Dreams}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]] <ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title=’Blind Side’ No. 2 but takes spotlight from ‘New Moon’|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’arcy|first=David|title=Splice|url= https://www.screendaily.com/reviews/splice/5009958.article|date=January 25, 2010|website=Screen Daily}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<ref>{{Cite web |title=AFI{{!}}Catalog |url=https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/66750 |access-date=2024-04-17 |website=catalog.afi.com}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<ref>{{Citation |last=Lincoln |first=Todd |title=The Apparition |date=2012-08-24 |type=Horror, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1433822/ |others=Ashley Greene, Sebastian Stan, Tom Felton |publisher=Warner Bros., Dark Castle Entertainment, StudioCanal}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver’s Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>|<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<ref>{{Citation |last=O&apos;Neill |first=Morgan |title=The Factory |date=2013-06-01 |type=Crime, Mystery, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132285/ |others=John Cusack, Dallas Roberts, Vincent Messina |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Mel's Cite du Cinema, Silver Pictures}}</ref><br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Foundas|first=Scott|title=Film Review: ‘Getaway|url=https://variety.com/2013/film/reviews/getaway-review-1200590965/|date=August 28, 2013|website=Variety}}</ref> <br />
<br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys |others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref><br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]] ><ref>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title=’Suburbicon’: Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<ref>{{Citation |last=X |first=Director |title=Superfly |date=2018-06-13 |type=Action, Crime, Thriller |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7690670/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 |others=Trevor Jackson, Jason Mitchell, Lex Scott Davis |publisher=Columbia Pictures, Silver Pictures, Sony Pictures Releasing}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Collis|first=Cork|title=A pregnancy turns terrifying in trailer horror show The Expecting|url= https://ew.com/tv/the-expecting-trailer/|date=October 5, 2020|website=Entertainment Weekly}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Mack|first=Andrew|title=Simon Barrett’s Seance Heading to Shudder And RLJE Films|url= https://screenanarchy.com/2021/02/simon-barretts-seance-heading-to-shudder-and-rlje-films.html|date=February 26, 2021|website=Screen Anarchy}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Goff|first=Oscar|title=Review”Orphan: First Kill (2022) Dir. William Brent Bell|url= https://bostonhassle.com/review-orphan-first-kill-2022-dir-william-brent-bell/|date=August 19, 2022|website=Boston Hassle}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
<br />
| TBD<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]] <ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
<br />
|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
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(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the conversation, DisneyMetalhead. I have made the changes.[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::DisneyMetalhead did not give explicit permisssion to make these changes, so I have reverted them. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::@[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] Not a bad rewrite (and definitely overall an improvement!), but I'm noticing a couple issues here:<br />
::::1. Several citations to IMDB, which [[WP:IMDB|isn't a reliable source]]. Can you replace those with something which isn't user generated?<br />
::::2. "The company has worked with directors such as Guy Ritchie, Shane Black, George Clooney, Mary Harron, Walter Hill, and Simon Barrett." in the lead seems like undue weight, I'd remove it.<br />
::::3. I notice that "While most of the company's films were initially poorly reviewed by critics, their 2009 film Splice eventually received better reviews" is removed from the original. I understand that this was uncited, but as you are a COI editor I am slightly uncomfortable approving a change that removes possibly accurate negative information. Are there citations for the overall receptions of the company's films, whether positive or negative?<br />
::::If the above 3 changes are made I'm happy to call this approved, or if the first two are made and the editor confirms that they looked for sources on the reception and couldn't find anything. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 20:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DisneyMetalhead&diff=1233915372User talk:DisneyMetalhead2024-07-11T15:47:36Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment */</p>
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Thanks for the heads up! I've done edits in the past, but it's been a while so I forgot about the referencing. I re-added it and added a citation too. Thanks for your help.<br />
--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry, merry!==<br />
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From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! [[User:Bzuk|FWiW Bzuk]] ([[User talk:Bzuk|talk]]) 14:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC) [[File:Lights ablaze.JPG|80px]]<br />
::I'm somehow only just barely noticing this, {{ping|Bzuk}}. Thank you for the wishes. Hope that yours was terrific as well!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 06:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2'' ==<br />
Hey [[User:DisneyMetalhead]], I have noticed that you have been engaged in an edit debate with [[User:Rusted AutoParts|Rusted AutoParts]], who reverted edits without any sources, multiple times that you have made. Since this is debate for them, and I can read that you have been condensing sentences, I am only bringing this up so that it can be resolved correctly. Since you have a debate with other editors, you as well as they need to take it to the talk-page. In their most recent revert they told you to go to the talk page....I don't think this is not something that should be a matter of talk page debate. However, since it's an issue I am bringing it up to both of you. I have posted the same on their talk page, and hope this will be resolved correctly.--[[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|50.232.205.246]] ([[User talk:50.232.205.246|talk]]) 17:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the heads up! I'll be sure to voice my opinion there.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Collaborative recognition==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Here, have a cookie for the additional work you put into the [[Ron Howard]] page. That filmography was a mess, and though I would've liked to have finished it myself - props to you for your contribution.--[[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|50.232.205.246]] ([[User talk:50.232.205.246|talk]]) 17:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks [[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|User:50.232.205.246]]! Sorry I got stoked that someone was finally beginning to clean up the page and wanted to join in. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Franchise Article ==<br />
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Instead of changing the X-men film series page to a franchise page, has anyone just created a franchise article directly? Sort of like how there is a main [[Marvel Cinematic Universe|MCU]] article, but also separate articles for the [[List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films|MCU films]] and [[List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series|MCU television]] series. With how insistent a certain editor is that only their edits are correct (I'm experiencing that first hand in a different [[List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company|article]] at the moment), perhaps this would be the best option? That way the film article can be kept as such while still having an article that explains the film and television X-men universe? -[[User:AnonWikiEditor|AnonWikiEditor]] ([[User talk:AnonWikiEditor|talk]]) 10:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I already created the franchise article once, but it was turned down by editors through the article move request.[[User:Hotwiki|TheVeryHotWikipedian]] ([[User talk:Hotwiki|talk]]) 11:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::[[User:AnonWikiEditor]], I have suggested such a move, and it would make sense as the MCU has multiple pages as you pointed out. [[User:Hotwiki]], why don't you try again? Times change, the world changes, Wikipedia can too.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 13:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasons' Greetings ==<br />
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[[File:The Great White North.jpg|100px|left]] ...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! [[User:Bzuk|FWiW Bzuk]] ([[User talk:Bzuk|talk]]) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|Bzuk}} wow sorry for the extremely delayed response. Thank you for reaching out to me in December 2017. Hope things are going well for you. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== [[DC Extended Universe]] ==<br />
=== January 2018 ===<br />
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I understand your reasons but according to [https://movieweb.com/deadshot-lobo-movies-canceled-dc/ this source] DC cancels Deadshot and Lobo movies, as well as Birds of Prey movie seems to have been cancelled.--[[User:Dipralb|Dipralb]] ([[User talk:Dipralb|talk]]) 14:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: That source says the aren't sure what the status is. The title even has a question mark. Journalists are assuming/questioning what's going to happen because at this point we do not know.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:55, 18 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. The original source about Flashpoint movie, cited for ScreenRant, it's from Variety, [http://variety.com/2018/film/news/flash-movie-directors-john-francis-daley-jonathan-goldstein-1202665854/], and it's of negotiations, not an official attachment to the project. Why consider as official attachment?[[User:OscarFercho|OscarFercho]] ([[User talk:OscarFercho|talk]]) 13:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
[[User:OscarFercho]] - the directors are officially under 'negotiations'. That is a contractual obligation. The article isn't about 'rumors', 'discussions' or anything of that nature. Therefore they are officially attached. One of the two directors also confirmed their attachment on their social media page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:But you're wrong, negotiations it's not a contractual obligation, not yet until an official announcement.[[User:OscarFercho|OscarFercho]] ([[User talk:OscarFercho|talk]]) 05:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
'In negotiations' means that a studio is negotiating a contract. "In talks" means 'rumored' or in 'discussion'/see also 'considered'. Besides that one of the directors confirmed their involvement on their own social media page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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=== August 2018 ===<br />
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A couple days ago, that page was protected, requiring autoconfirmed or confirmed access status to edit (for 2 months). There had since been a noticeable peace, and much less disruption. Certainly a good example to support the argument for '''[[WP:TBRACW|mandatory account creation]] (MAC)'''. I only mention this here because I noticed you doing a lot of clean up work on the page. Was curious to see if you support MAC. Cheers - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User:Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 04:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I don't necessarily think that it's a bad idea. I also believe that input from all editors is important however, though I guess they could take to the talk page anytime they want to.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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=== January 2020 (A)-resolved ===<br />
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]].<br />
* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:Talk:DC Extended Universe|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant notice boards]].<br />
* If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents|Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]].<br />
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:DC Extended Universe]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. ''There was ''extremely'' strong consensus against adding Blackhawk to the in development section. Trying to add it back months later hoping no one will notice is disruptive editing. I really don't want to have to report you to [[WP:AN]], so consider this your final warning.''<!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 12:06, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|TheJoebro64}} how can you claim this, when I placed reliable sources within the edit? I have since taken the topic to the talk-page for the article. I ''hadn't'' {{tq|"hop[ed] no one will notice"}} as you assumed/accused. If you read my edit summaries, I explained my reasoning. The discussion I have posted on the talk page, further explains the reasoning. A previous consensus can become out of date. That's the reality of ongoing developments. Needless to say I also, '''was not''' in violation of the [[WP:3RR]]...--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not a 3RR warning; the reason I warned you is because you know there's consensus in place. If there's a consensus in place, that consensus is retained, ''even'' if you think it's out of date. If so, you need to gain a new consensus. What I meant by "hoping no one will notice" is that I've gotten the impression that you seem to think that waiting a little while to re-implement an edit that was contested and blocked in the past is OK, which it isn't. [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 17:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::''Again'', you're assuming my thought processes. I don't believe that time ''alone'' voids old decisions. I'm stating that time - with new information - can cause a consensus to be outdated.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:06, 11 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{tpw}} That's true, but you need to present the new information in either the original or new discussion on the same topic to gain support that the original consensus is outdated. A consensus by multiple editors can not be overruled by a single editor. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 12:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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=== January 2020 (B)-RESOLVED===<br />
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Your behavior on the DC Extended Universe discussion page is getting somewhat confrontational. Please keep calm, as letting your temper get the best of you will accomplish nothing. I get that you are an evangelical Christian, but you can''not'' hold others to that standard. Therefore, clapping back at Darkknight for using the word 'Jesus' is only going to paint you as having skin that is too thin. I assure you: Jesus can take care of himself; he doesn't need you to defend his name (that whole Matthew 7:1 thing). <br><br />
Take a moment and realign yourself to working better with others, please. You will find that people are a ''lot'' more open to your editorial suggestions when you remain calm and focus on the edits, and not the editor. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 07:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Please try your post in the DCEU article talk again. I put the term "one sentence only" in italics for a reason. If you are having trouble boiling your view into a single sentence, I can help you, but this doesn't seem to be a task you cannot handle. Please edit your response to reflect the idea of providing a single, brief sentence to explain your viewpoint. Thanks. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 08:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::: {{ping|Jack Sebastian}} Just so you are aware, anytime there is a discussion - there will be differing input and angles. This does not mean there is confrontation, but that two editors disagree. It does not necessarily mean that I am not calm. In fact, I have simply been trying to state facts with sources over opinion. Additionally, I was not attempting to hold anyone to my standards. I simply asked the editor to respect my beliefs, as I would anyone else's. I have made various articles and edits over years and various usernames. I assure you I do not have anything but "thick skin". Lastly I would like to acknowledge that I have tried in this above response^ to indicate that I am "remain[ing] calm" and [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL[ity] #Avoid[] incivility...by ''Explain[ing] [My]self'']]. I am merely seeking to preserve an article, its topic, and its notability within an online encyclopedia. Lastly thank you for attempting to be a peace-maker. It is appreciated. Cheers!<br>P.S. I responded to your request on the said talk-page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 08:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for responding, and I appreciate that you read through and did not take umbrage. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 16:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Likewise, {{ping|Jack Sebastian}}. As you saw I placed a barnstar on your talk-page for your efforts to be civil/collaborative, and in being a peacekeeper throughout the ongoing discussions. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right back atcha. :) - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 05:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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=== February 2020 ===<br />
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Stop [[WP:BLUDGEON]]ing the discussion. As you have been told repeatedly, there's no sense in continuing in circles. Your behaviour is becoming increasingly disruptive. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 05:59, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Darkknight2149}} just because I disagree with your statements, and have pointed out their inaccuracies, does not mean I am [[WP:BLUDGEON]]ing. {{orange|"Bludgeoning is when a user dominates the conversation in order to persuade others to their point of view."}}...{{orange|"everyone should have the opportunity to express their views, within reasonable limits."}} When a discussion occurs, someone who disagrees with you - who has sources will respond to your claims. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:19, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, there is no disruptive behavior. Just preserving an article, with the sources I have provided.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:21, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::This should have been filed under '''Crocodile Dundee (film series)'''. I'm glad someone corrected that.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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When more than one grieving person decides to edit an excellent article, it becomes very hard to coordinate changes. But now it is getting the shape it deserves. Thankee to all! [[User:SilSinn9821|SilSinn9821]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9821|talk]]) 20:11, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks [[User:Hayholt]]! Is there something particular that I did to receive this? Much appreciated.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{ping|Hayholt}} I'm just trying to find what article I had worked on for this [[WP:BS]]. I appreciate the award, and would just like to file it on my page accordingly. Cheers M8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Excellent work ==<br />
I am very pleased with your initiative with the [[Alien (franchise)]]. I've done extensive work on the Alien franchise pages in the past, including saving from deletion and bringing up to FL status [[List of Alien characters]], as well as creating [[David 8]] and bringing it to GA status. I'm planning on joining in with the main franchise page cleanup - primarily to reduce the presence of the copy-pasted material from the AvP pages and to add clarity. There can certainly be AvP content mentioned, but it shouldn't be a cornerstone of the page, by any means. I would have joined in earlier, but there's been a pretty significant dispute with TurokSwe that needed to be addressed on AN/I, before anything else. Anyways, keep up the good work! '''[[User:DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">D<small>ÅRTH</small>B<small>ØTTØ</small></span>]]'''<sub>&nbsp;([[User talk:DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">T</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">C</span>]])</sub> 21:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks {{ping|DarthBotto}}! Trying to get it to feel less cluttered and more organized, as you are. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, I have removed the [[WP:PROD]] tag you placed on the redirect page {{noredirect|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in film}}, as your requested move is better served through the [[WP:RM|requested move]] process. If you believe that the move is truly uncontroversial, you may tag the redirect page with {{tlx|db-move}}. &mdash;<span style="color:#808080">[[User:Kuyabribri|'''KuyaBriBri''']]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">[[User_Talk:Kuyabribri|''Talk'']]</span></sup> 20:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: {{ping|Kuyabribri}} thanks for the heads up! I have placed the suggested template there as the separate film series should be divided on a page which has a title indicating there are multiple interpretations of the same product (i.e.: various film series). Thanks for the help.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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* {{ping|BilCat}}, uhhhhh no. Definitely poor reasons to delete a page. I have commented there now.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 12:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I noticed you add ''Blue'' to [[List of Walt Disney Pictures films]]. The film has been renamed to ''[[Dolphin Reef (film)|Dolphin Reef]]'', with a planned US release date on November 12, 2019. I think its better to focus on US release dates for films, rather than earlier International release dates. Thoughts? [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 01:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Cardei012597}} ''Blue'' is not the same movie as ''Dolphin Reef''. They are two separate films, though they are both about the ocean. ''Blue'' was an exclusive film only released in France.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I am sorry to say this, but you are incorrect. There are many articles online that describe the production, delay, and release of Blue/Dolphins/Dolphin Reef. There may of been edits or cuts of ''Blue'', but Disneynature planned on ONE Dolphin centered film, which began as Blue, evolved as Dolphins, then to Dolphin Reef. There are articles, even on the ''Dolphin Reef'' page, that describe ''Blue'' and ''Dolphin Reef'' as the same film/production. If you are interested, I can provide the references for my case. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 04:55, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Just by researching briefly, I found this quote from a reliable source <ref>https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/best-disneynature-movies</ref> "For some reason, the team nixed the Natalie Portman-narrated Dolphins last year, only a week before its release. (A version was released in France under the name Blue.)" If you require more references that prove my claim, I can provide them. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 05:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Another reliable source <ref>https://whatsondisneyplus.com/disneynatures-dolphin-reef-coming-to-disney/</ref> stated this: "DisneyNature was originally going to released this movie in 2018, under the name “Dolphins”, but was pulled from release in the US. It did get released in France, under the title Blue." [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 05:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|Cardei012597}} You stated it yourself: "a version was released in France under the name ''Blue''". It's not the same movie. It's a different film/different cut and only released in France, just as I stated.<br />
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I literally had this exact same debate over whether if Once Upon a Deadpool was a ''different film'' from ''Deadpool 2''. Recut or re-edited films are NEVER considered different film and deserving to be on a film list. ''Blue'' is the ''Once Upon a Deadpool'', a re-edited version of the same film. If you truly believe that re-edited versions of the SAME film should exist, than maybe you should also add the re-edited versions of EVERY Disney theatrical film. Discussions like this has been taken place, on whether to include re-edited, recut versilms of films and describe them as a new film, with Administrators. This is why on the Lucasfilm film table they do NOT include the re-releases with the Special editions. The best course of action to our discussion is to add ''Blue'' to the NOTES section of ''Dolphin Blue'', similar to how the people resolved the ''Once Upon a Deadpool'' issue. I think this compromise is fair, acknowledging ''Blue'' as a French re-edit of an American made film, but understanding that the ''List of Walt Disney Pictures'' focuses on the U.S. release of a film. I will add this note to the Disney page. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 16:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, I added the note. You can check it out now on ''List of Walt Disney Pictures films''. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 16:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Cardei012597}} Definitely, not. What you don't realize is that Disneynature is a French-American studio. Much of the production takes place in France. As such, the fact that Disney decided to scrap the American release of ''Blue'' (if ''Thrillest'' is actually a reliable source, which I'd question as much) does not render it defunct and un-listable here. Your comparison to ''Once Upon a Deadpool'' is a poor comparison. ''Blue'' is the film as it was going to be released...just released in France. It is not a redo/recut/revisit/special edition. It is the film as shot. Whether or not ''Dolphin Reef'' for Disney+ is the same movie, there are no sources for. No WP:OR on an online encyclopedia. For these reasons, I am reverting the edit to how it was before.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Stop removing sources and adding movie not released under the DisneyNature banner. ''Le Premier Cri'' was released by Disney France was not released under the DisneyNature banner. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 23:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Spshu}} ''The Thrillist'' is not a reliable source. In any way shape or form. Secondly this page is about productions that were made by Disneynature. Disneynature helped make ''Le Premier Cri''. Plain as day. Therefore it should be on this page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:36, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: Additionally, 'whatsondisneyplus' is '''not''' by any means reliable either. That is a fan page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:42, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Sorry but I have not seen a source that credits Disney Nature on ''Le Premier Cri''. So it is not "Plain as day." that is worst then having a non-reliable source, your original research. You kept The Thrillist as a reliable source in your edits, so you do think that it is reliable. And I never said whatsondisneyplus is reliable. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 12:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Spshu}} once again, as I have stated. The film was released by Walt Disney Pictures France, in a joint production juncture with Disneynature Productions. That is plain as day. You want a source, I'll add one. To revert to that goppy messy format is deconstructive to the page. Likewise both ''Thrillist'' and ''whatsondisneyplus'' are poor sources. I have not added them - they need to be removed. They were added previously by another editor.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::How about stop parroting your last statement. No, it is not "plain as day." Personal preferences about tables doesn't make a table "goppy messy format". I suggest that you keep the basic table formatting, so it isn't hard for others to add rows. You are not moving the discussion forward. You have kept and moved the Thrillist source while removing one use of it. I told you I agree with you about whatsondisneyplus. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 15:53, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::chroniquedisney.fr designated that it is an "an amateur site", so not a reliable source. Google Play doesn't indicate that it is a "Disneynature Productions". ratingraph.com doesn't seem reliable. [https://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film434277.html filmaffinity.com] shows: "Productora: Wild Bunch / Mai Juin Productions / M6 Films / Canal+ / M6" [https://en.unifrance.org/movie/27509/premier-cri UniFrance]: "Executive Producer : Mai Juin Productions ; Film exports/foreign sales : Wild Bunch ; Co-productions : M6 Films, Buena Vista International - Allemagne ; French distribution : Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International (ex-Buena Vista International France)" and the press kits there do not list DisneyNature. VOD releases are Direct to video as it is in a digital format and seen in home or where a device can go. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 22:21, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Spshu}} there are no domesticated fowl in this conversation. Remember to [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|'''Avoid Incivilty''', ''Be professional'', and ''Avoid condescension'']]. The coding format is messy, in that it is cluttered. My edits were to clear up the coding format, in order to simplify for other editors. What I have stated are facts of production studios involved. Each of the sources provided list each of the production studios including Disneynature Productions. The film is a France-only release and so it is difficult to find an article breakdown of the studios involved. However, each of the sources provided lists Disneynature. The ratinggraph site is a reliable source - and a film production breakdown website. Additionally [[VOD]] is different from Home-video release/straight-to-video. VOD, though similar to direct-to-video in its approach as a "straight-to-consumer" product, is only available through streaming/online means. There is enough destinctive difference to render listing it as such. For each of these reasons, my editos need to remain. Cheers, bub.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Do you have any proof of both movies being seperate? [[User:LTPHarry|Luigitehplumber]] ([[User talk:LTPHarry|talk]]) 13:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: The proof is in the creatives involved in the film. The co-production studio on ''Blue'' ([https://www.silverbackfilms.tv/shows/disneynature-dolphins-blue/ Silverback Films]) is not involved in any way, shape or form with ''Dolphin Reef''. The producers on ''Blue'' were: Jane Hamlin, Keith Scholey, Ingrid Kvale, and Daniel Rasmussen; while the producers on ''Dolphin Reef'' are: Roy Conli, Alastair Fothergill, David S. Grant, Daniel Rasmussen, and Keith Scholey. ''Blue'' was co-directed by Keith Scholey and Alastair Fothergill, while ''Dolphin Reef'' is directed solely by Keith Scholey. What this tells any viewer, is that there are differing creatives involved. The two films, though both about dolphins, are different movies.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== The Invisible Man ==<br />
There has been no announcements about the future of The Dark Universe and whether The Invisible man is apart of it, so please remove the information. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: You're incorrect, again {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}}. The Dark Universe was simply re-evaluated, reconfigured to be a franchise of standalone feature films (just like the original Universal Classic Monsters). The studio has stated that for the time being they will focus on individual stories, instead of jumping right into crossovers (the Dark Universe original plan). Additionally, one of the graphic artists for the franchise provided updates as early as May of 2018. Along with all of this, when Leigh Whannell was announced to be writing/directing ''The Invisible Man'', he inititally stated that he may use elements from Ed Solomon's original script, with the studio considering keeping Johnny Depp in the titular role. ''The Invisible Man'' is a part of the Dark Universe. Tabloids have commented on the franchise calling it "dead", but the studio's official stance is that they are taking a different approach with it.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::None of that cooberates it being in the Dark Universe. None of the sources from when Whannell joined had stated it’s in the same universe. That’s you assuming it is. You need reliable sources to bolster that claim and from my research nothing substantiated that. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 01:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
No, again {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} - the studio stated they are re-evaluating the franchise. The only thing that's changed is that instead of being a shared universe like MCU, it now consists of standalone feature films. The studio at no point has stated that the Dark Universe is dead. That's the fact. No assumptions there. Likewise the fact that they considered Johnny Depp up until a month ago is the fact that it's the same film, but a different writer/director. Projects evolve all the time. The graphic artist that met with heads of Universal regarding the franchise in May 2018 stated he is working on the designs for the monsters in the Dark Universe. This came as news following all the tabloids calling the franchise 'dead'. That's the facts. You cannot go off of opinion from tabloids. The studio is the only accurate source, here.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::You’re still supplying your own assumptions. The studio re-evaluating the Dark Universe is not confirmation this particular version is in any way tied to it. And you’ve just proven yourself wrong by saying only the studio is correct, which is absolutely right because the studio has not said it’s part of the Dark Universe. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 20:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} no, the studio has stated that it's the same film. At no point have they said it's not. The franchise as a whole has changed - but the title has not. That's the factual statements we have. We do not have a statement from the studio saying that the franchise is no more. Until that happens, the title of the films is ''STILL'' Dark Universe.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Per [https://variety.com/2019/film/news/universal-finds-director-invisible-man-studios-monster-legacy-1203117708/ Variety, January 2019]: “The move is part of a fresh strategy for Universal’s monsters properties, bringing creative directors with distinctive visions to the classic characters and '''moving on from the interconnected Dark Universe concept'''. “Throughout cinematic history, Universal’s classic monsters have been reinvented through the prism of each new filmmaker who brought these characters to life,” '''said Peter Cramer, Universal’s president of production'''. “'''We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them'''.”<br />
:At no point in that statement does Universal say the Dark Universe is still the plan, a matter of fact they say the exact opposite. So until you table something more reliable that disputes that, you’re in the wrong. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} The only thing that the President of Universal said was '''We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them..."'''. That's exactly what I've been stating this entire time. I will provide my sources for what I have stated here, once I'm home.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The quote utilises the word "individualised", which I don't get how it becomes interpreted to mean it's still in the Dark Universe. A google news search produces no reliable sources to say the Dark Universe isn't dead so I don't know what you could link that I haven't already seen. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} you will just have to wait. I have re-titled the sub-section so that you will stop removing the films from this article, friend. Cheers bub. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::And whatever you wish to link, please do so in this [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#The Invisible Man (2020 film) and the Dark Universe|this discussion]]. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::So you don't have time to supply sources but you do have time to reinstate your preferred version just tinkered with. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 22:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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It is poor form to talk about another editor on another discussion other than their talk page. I appreciate you however for pinging me at that discussion. The series of events of ''The Invisible Man'' are factually as follows:<br />
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* script developed by Ed Solomon<br />
* Johnny Depp cast in the role<br />
* Dark Universe stalls production on ''The Bride of Frankenstein'' due to script changes/revisions.<br />
* production crew for ''Bride'' continues to be hired<br />
* Jason Blum publically states he'd love to 'shepherd'/work on the future of the Dark Universe [https://screenrant.com/dark-universe-movies-jason-blum-blumhouse/][https://www.slashfilm.com/blumhouse-dark-universe/]<br />
* Jason Blum is hired to develop/produce/oversee ''Invisible Man'' w/President of Universal stating they will focus on individualized story-telling moving forward.<br />
* A new director/writer is hired<br />
* New cast is hired.<br />
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Nowhere has Universal announced the Dark Universe as 'dead', like you keep referencing.<br />
--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Those last three points completely undo your stance. As I’ve linked here and on the films article the Universal head has said it’s going to be individualized going forward, so how do you see that as confirmation it’s apart of the Dark Universe? Sure, no direct line saying verbatim “Dark Universe is dead” has been said (despite the Universal person basically implying it), but in the same vein no line of dialogue saying “The Invisible Man is apart of the Dark Universe” has been either, so stop saying it is. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 20:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} you repeat to tell me what to do... "stop saying it is" ...though there is no statements anywhere that Dark Universe is a dead franchise. We cannot assume it is without the studio stating as much. That's as basic and straightforward as you can get. I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::”I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise”. What are you talking about? When did I ever say that? I’m ensuring the article doesn’t saying anything about franchises, not trying to establish it as being part of a new one. It’s standalone, meaning it doesn’t belong to either a new franchise OR the Dark Universe. No sources have been published saying it is part of the DU that’s what I’ve been trying to get across this entire time. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 03:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} '''UPDATE''': Here is a recent interview that is noteworthy. ''iO9'' recently did a press interview Chris Morgan during the release of ''Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw''. In the interview the discussion turned towards '''Dark Universe'''. Morgan had originally been tapped as one of the co-runners/co-architects of the franchise, only to walk away after the studio decided to re-evaluate the situation. Repeatedly in the article, it states that there have been a couple of attempts at a shared universe scenario, only to have various iterations of angles to take with it. Morgan said this: "I don’t [have] regrets or anything like that ... I think it’s just, you know, I think it probably was trying to come together too quickly, I would say. And I think everyone got to take a breath and take a step back and take a look at it, and '''now just focus on maybe doing it a little bit slower''' ... I think Universal’s going about the monster films the right way, which is to really focus on taking a good script, good story, put it out there, if you’re going to build a universe build it from something strong like that. And I think they’re not so much worried about putting a universe out there as they are making great monster films, so '''I’m looking forward to seeing them'''". All these things again re-state what I have been saying this entire time. The studio hasn't dropped the Dark Universe film studio, nor have they dropped the title of the name they have given this film franchise. Morgan states it plain as day here. This interview was from July 30, 2019. That's as recent as it can get. No more need to debate anymore ([https://io9.gizmodo.com/chris-morgan-talks-dark-universe-mistakes-and-fast-and-1836858662 reference]).--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: '''''Second'' UPDATE''': Morgan has once again discussed the future 'plans/gameplan' for the Dark Universe. In an interview with ''Coming Soon'' he stated, "I think with the Dark Universe the lesson that became very clear was putting it all together too quickly as a universe. It doesn’t naturally want to happen that way. It wants to happen with one movie that’s great, and then you let that build love and support and grow it. And I think that’s the lesson that Universal and we have taken away. '''Now it’s kind of the way that those monster movies are rolling out.''' Build it with love and care." ([https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/1088911-chris-morgan-talks-fast-franchise-and-dark-universe#z3JY2PxLhxVvBTKR.99 reference]). The franchise is obviously not 'dead' as has been the debate here since your first message. I will also leave this at the discussion link you provided.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:44, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== October 2019 ==<br />
[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|link=]] Please stop adding [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|unsourced]] content, as you did on [[:Scream 3]]. This violates [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|Wikipedia's policy on verifiability]]. If you continue to do so, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:uw-unsourced3 --> [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Please '''stop adding unsourced production companies'''. Like any other content on Wikipedia, this needs need to properly sourced. Just because someone's logo shows up during the credits does not make them a production company – they could have almost any level involvement, from being an investor to being a distributor to being a production company. This is why we use secondary sources to determine the production companies. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|NinjaRobotPirate}} .... All I changed was the formatting of the production studio to exactly how it appears on-screen during the movie.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
: You added unsourced production companies based on your own [[WP:NOR|original research]]. I'm not sure how to make this clearer than I already have. You need to [[WP:CITE|cite a source]] for production companies. Companies whose logo flash on the screen ''might'' be production companies, but they might not be. Do you understand this so far? They might ''not'' be production companies just because their logo showed up on the screen or on the poster. This happens sometimes. They might be distributors, they might be investors, they might be contractually obligated to appear there because they brokered a deal – who knows. So don't copy the names of every company that appears and assume that they're all production companies. Cite a source that labels them as such. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|NinjaRobotPirate}} I did ''not'' misunderstand you the first time. In response to your comments, I would state that you need to review the [[Wikipedia:Civility|WP:CIVIL]] guidelines. Namely: [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL - Avoiding Incivility; bullets 3, & 9]] where it states: <br />
{{font color|red|yellow|"3. ''Try not to get too intense.'' Passion can be misread as aggression, so take great care to avoid the appearance of being heavy-handed or bossy. Nobody likes to be bossed about by an editor who appears to believe that they are "superior"; nobody likes a bully.<br>9. ''Avoid appearing to ridicule another editor's comment.'' '''Even if you see the comment as ridiculous''', he or she very probably doesn't, and expressing ridicule is likely only to offend and antagonize, rather than helping."}} <br />
:: Again, you didn't lose me the first time. I simply disagree with you. All I did was changed the studio's type-font/formatting/stylization as it were on-screen. Cheers mate.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: No, that's not what you did. You added unsourced production companies. See [[Special:Diff/919258216]]. Do you see the part where two new production companies were added? Miramax and Dimensions Films were not there previously. Your edit added them. That is not changing the stylization; that is adding unsourced content. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 18:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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If you're going to say "but there was a discussion", then do editors the courtesy of linking it, else your words have little meaning. Besides, all your edit did was include the raw colour-less film table in the article instead of transcluding it, and rearrange the prose. No change as to how the tables "should be formatted". -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 08:52, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I see you've been active since my talk page post. A reply would be appreciated. What is to stop the table you've listed existing at the films article and being transcluded to the parent article, as I had it? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 12:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: I actually fell asleep in the middle of doing some things on here last night {{ping|Alex 21}}, so here I am responding now. There was a lengthy discussion among various editors that was ongoing for some time. What was decided among all of them, was the consensus to have the films in this layout that I reverted your edits to. Though it would be 'courteous' to link it in the comments section, as you pointed out - it can also be found in the talk page. ''Sorry'', but you can find it there. The formatting, I am referring to is without the colors, and the formatting of the text in the titles. The transclusion you are talking about is a discussion on a totally different article. Whether it has occurred there or not -I do not know. Arguably the articles should have similar layout/format across each of them. All I know sir, is that there was a large discussion regarding the formatting of the table here. I have set it back to what was agreed upon. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, the reason the colored versions were decided as fan-page territory as there is far too much going on in a film table with such an arrangement. It was discussed, once again at great length within the talk-page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::That's nice that there was a discussion, but if ''you'' cite it as consensus, then ''you'' need to cite the actual discussion. I could say that there was a discussion to delete all Star Wars-related articles and there was a consensus for it, but I would have to actually link it, wouldn't I? Either way, my main issue wasn't with the layout, but the transclusion that you reverted, which applied to ''both'' articles, which I have restored. All the best. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 22:12, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Alex 21}} that's not how this works. It's not my job to direct you to all discussions that have occurred. There have been numerous editors involved in the discussion. You can go looking for it, and instead of bossing me around -- review the guidelines for [[WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL #Avoiding Incivility, bullet #8: Avoid condescension]]. Review that, and then go look for the discussion yourself. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes it is. You state that something happened, you have to support it. I didn't say "all", I said "one". Burden's on you. Verify your statements. Catch up. ''Cheers.'' -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 03:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: And ''again'', [[WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility, bullet #8:]] {{font color|red|yellow|'''Avoid condescension'''}}. This is a guideline you need to revisit. Stop talking down to other editors, bub. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: [[WP:BURDEN]]. Verify your statements. This is a ''policy'' you need to revisit, bud. "bub". Lol. By the way, there was a discussion banning the use of Disney in usernames. Take my word for it. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 05:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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@[[User:Alex 21|Alex 21 / AlexTheWhovian / Alex{{sup|TW}}]].... Now you're being petty. I'm not taking your [[WP:BAIT]]. Thanks anyway.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:28, 29 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:What are you talking about? Is that a reply to my last comment? That was almost two weeks ago... If you're talking about how the table was modified again, point me to where ''I'' made the edits. I'll wait. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 21:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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::{{re|Darkknight2149}} Thank you for finally filing this. The sooner it starts, the sooner it can end. I have responded to your investigation on the noticeboards, to {{ping|Jack Sebastian}} in their comments below/hereafter, and will simply state - again, that I have not sought to fight anyone. I have attempted to preserve/update an article that I have interest/passion in. My only goal is to improve articles/pages here on WP. My comment regarding IP addresses, is simply due to the fact that I have no idea how these SPI's are resolved. My limited technological knowledge led me to assume that this is how it is resolved. I again restate, that I do not personally know {{ping|Popfox3}}, nor are they me. I stand by that and look forward to this investigation bringing this to light. I respect you as an editor, and hope that future contributions to various articles are collaborative. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I am not taking a position in this discussion, as I was not involved since its inception and am aware of it only from afar. I will say that your editing behavior in DC Extended Universe has been - in the very kindest of descriptions - has been problematic. Continually challenging an emerged consensus is fractious and abrasive. While consensus can change, it does so over time as new referenced information emerges. It does ''not'' change simply because some of the people arguing a different point of view appear to leave the article.<br><br />
I think you may have misunderstood your role as editor in Wikipedia. While you may act single in the creation of articles and wiki-gnoming, you are here to work collaboratively with others. You have not been doing that, and I think you can feel that tension you have engendered between yourself and other contributors - totally the ''opposite'' feeling you should be getting. You have not yet learned to walk away from a disagreement; whether that is because its the internet and there are no RL, physical consequences for being disagreeable or whether yiu are just young and have tied up who you are with your viewpoints, I do not know. I just know the results. You are being argumentative in a website where people come here (without any sort of remuneration) to try and create something lovely. The ultimate question that can be asked of any user is whether they are a net positive or a net drag on the Project. I cannot answer that question for you, but the position of others is very, very clear. You need to take a very hard look at how you edit here, and decide whether this place makes you happy.<br><br />
The only thing I will say as to the relationship between you and Popfox3 is that if you are indeed the same person, you absolutely need to get out in front of this. Now. You are young, and the young make mistakes. If you cannot demonstrate the moral integrity to admit a mistake that you doubled-down on, your ejection from the Project will not be ''indefinite''; it will be ''permanent.'' Time is not your friend in this, so if you made a mistake, deal with it immediately. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 00:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:: I appreciate your efforts in reaching out to me, {{ping|Jack Sebastian}}. I 'ping' you in this response, because perhaps I am not sure how "notifications" through Wikipedia work (i.e.: Should I be pinging you, or are you notified simply by responding? I'm not sure of the answer). I have not meant in any way to cause friction, nor to be combative. My efforts in posting new/updated sources at [[DC Extended Universe]] simply come from a passion for the topic, as well as interest in seeing the article become a better in quality. I acknowledged in the discussion - as you saw that the article -obviously- needs some work. The fact that it doesn't have an official name is indeed frustrating, among other things. There are a handful of editors who in general seem to disagree with me and now they are "coming out of the woodworks" so to speak. I anticipated this in requesting admin assistance. However, I stand by what I said regarding {{ping|Popfox3}}. I do not know thme personally, nor are they me. My statement regarding their IP address was my naive expectation that somehow IPs could be looked at and resolve the debate. In fact I have no idea how SockPuppetry claims are resolved. I don't know how to 'prove this' to anyone, but reaffirm that I have one account, one username, and one log-in. Thanks again for your time and for your help. I am not "young" as you have stated several times, but I am not at all tech-savvy.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== About the AN/I thread about you ==<br />
Specifically [[WP:AN/I#Incivility help|this one]]. Writing as an admin who is closing this discussion, I'm concerned that you were indefinitely blocked 3 and ahalf years ago for making a legal threat; as of this moment you could be blocked again, per policy. But IMHO, that seems a bit silly because you haven't made that kind of threat since. (While I must comment on your aggressive tone, after looking over your recent history I don't see any serious actions like that one since your return.) Why don't you make your life on Wikipedia simpler by retracting that statement? Doing that would also be a favor to me. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 20:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: I would "retract" the statement, though I don't know how that is done. It wasn't meant to be a 'threat' and in that old discussion I seem to remember several people stating that they didn't believe it was either. How do I go about doing what you have asked?--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, saying that you didn't expressing it as a legal threat works for me addresses that part of your statement. As for the other part, I have to admit that in my time here at Wikipedia I've not encountered a case exactly like this -- although I can't imagine it couldn't be done. Give me a bit of time to do a bit of research on this & get back to you. Or you could ask at [[WP:AN]]. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 04:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::: One matter I forgot to mention -- but my forgetfulness doesn't not mean it's not important -- is that you need to watch your current behavior. You need to try to be more civil in your interactions. I'm not going to lecture you about civility is better than being aggressive, but that civility helps you in persuading other people. Even if the other person is being a jerk. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 05:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Llywrch}} Thanks for the help. I can honestly say I've tried to be civil and collaborative in my edits. Everyone can always improve though, and so I'm trying even more so to be 'detached' from edits made.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Lars.Dormans}} Thanks for the recognition, and thanks for clarifying your auto-message that was posted here earlier. Appreciate it. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Final warning ==<br />
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DMH, I've told you many, many times that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DC_Extended_Universe&diff=963787126&oldid=963786625 sources like CBM] are unreliable and unacceptable for use on Wikipedia. Given that you continue to disregard these warnings, and have a long history of disruptive behavior around these types of articles, this is your final warning. If you do it again I'm reporting you to AN. [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 19:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:{{re|TheJoebro64}} /TJB64, you've "told" me "many, many times" various things. Not ''always'' does one of your "unreliable" classifications fit. If a media source has an exclusive, or reports on news when another media source does not - this makes them the sole reporter. You needn't place a warning/threat on my talk page. Simply edit the source and state why it is your belief that the source is not reliable. Be [[WP:PEACE|WP:Peaceful]] and collaborative. You needn't jump to the umpteenth degree. I will look for additional sources regarding the information I placed in the article today. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I warned you before about adding unsourced production companies to film articles. In {{diff2|978967150|this edit}}, you add unsourced production companies to the infobox without citing any sources. [[Template:Infobox film]] is pretty clear about this: "{{tq|When possible, this should be cited to reliable secondary sources that explicitly identify the production companies.}}" This is not some obscure underground film that has no database entries in reliable sources; we have a citation to the [[American Film Institute]] there already. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 06:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|NinjaRobotPirate}} I see what edits you are referring to. I will go in and add the sources that I used for the ''Cats & Dogs'' edits. I was going off of IMDb (and with each movie released I had thought that we can see that they are legitimate credits). I will however find additional second-party/reliable sources for each of them. I completely forgot, simply because I was working hard to finish a draft that I have been working on. I am sorry for the mis-step and for forgetting. My previous response was simply to clarify which of my edits you had blocked me for. I understand why it was done, and would like to correct the issue/find the sources.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:42, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, the IMDb is [[WP:UGC|user-generated content]], so it doesn't really matter what it says, and you shouldn't be copying its content here. If you want to find the production companies that worked on an American film, the [[AFI Catalog of Feature Films]] is a good place to start. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 01:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
I will start there and also look at other reliable sources. Isn't IMDb's mantra that the people behind creating a movie, post the information on the IMDb page?--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:34, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
: The IMDb is crowd-sourced just like Wikipedia. I have read interviews with filmmakers who said IMDb users were either making wild, incorrect guesses or making up hoaxes. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 22:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: I have never heard this, before! Do you have the articles? I'd be interested in reading them. I will definitely look into the AFI source you recommended as well. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:21, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Starzoner}} thank you for the warm wishes. May nothing but goodness come your way, m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hi DisneyMetalhead, I've undid your revision of the this article. I posted discussions about it at [[WP:FILM]] and [[WP:HORROR]]. On several google searches I couldn't find much scholarly information on what qualified the Universal Classic Monsters as being part of a series. The only information I found specifically was that these characters were only really referred to this in the 1990s when a home video label was launched in order to make the series seem like a line of films. If you want to expand on it otherwise, please add sources, but otherwise, i've removed everything else that was unsourced and tried to split the films into their own articles. Even within that, some of them only seem loosely connected. (see [[Dracula (Universal film series)]] for an example of this. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 04:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} what you're referring to is a franchise. The Universal Classic Monsters is absolutely a franchise -though it may not have been called as such during the '20s-'50s in which the films were released. At this point in time they were "contemporary" horror/monster films. What makes them "Classic" is the fact that they are classic/retro films. The films share a continuity and should only include the films that Universal has placed under that franchise title/banner. The articles you have now been making for the sub-film series within the franchise/banner is fine. You shouldn't remove the information from the Universal Classic Monsters article, however. Recently, Universal has placed all other classic horror films within its library under a "Universal Classic Horror" banner as well. I will be working on that article in the future. Please restore the titles that fall under the Universal Classic Monsters moniker.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
::You see that's the problem, you (like others have, see the talk page on the article) have said "oh no no no it's this! film series worked differently in the past!") but have not been able to back this up with any sources outside personal interpretations. If Universal (and others) have connected the films, what belongs in the series? What doesn't? When Universal created their "Universal Classic Monsters" home video, they even included non-Universal properties they had the rights to, like ''Island of Lost Souls''. Does that belong in the series now? If so why? I've searched and searched to find a clear answer, and people have told me that "oh, Universal Horror is the same as Universal monsters") (if so, do non-monter movies get included? if so why? if not, why not?). These series are barely connected plotwise and even when creating the ''Dracula'' universal series, the few people I could find writing about the film as a series seriously, noted that only the first three films connect in any serious way, and even the third film was "iffy". Again, i've provided sources, everyone else who has called me up on it has yet to provide any research of their own to show how these connect and when the term was developed. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::{{re|Andrzejbanas}} I'm glad that someone is taking this bear head-on, as it is a really difficult mountain to climb. Where is your references for Universal including "Island of Lost Souls"? Universal Pictures (who has the rights to the franchise/banner/title) are the only ones that can tell you what and what does not fall into the Universal Classic Monsters franchise title. Whether the title existed back during the '20s-'50s or not, you're still missing the point. The franchise, is connected. It's now retrospectively often credited as one of the "first shared universes". As a franchise, it is a trademarked moniker. Further more, in your examples -- a film series also does not require itself to be directly connected to other films in its title.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, here's an ''[[Entertainment Weekly]] article [https://ew.com/article/1993/10/29/universal-studios-monsters-classic-collection/ from 1993 noting Island of Lost Souls] as n entry into the series. Also, I'm not saying it has to be connected, but I'm saying it's such a loose connection, I've only added what I've found. I know the series is often connected and referred to, but I can't find anyone clarifying what exactly should and should not be in it outside the articles I've found. And all of them really only discuss the series in terms of it being a home video line that was made to "make the films seem connected" (i.e: a nice way of saying to sell more product) You'll have to provide some sort of back-up here. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I can not tell you why in 1993 Paramount Pictures' film was printed with "The Universal Studios Monsters Classic Collection" classification on it (though something mentioning this in the pros of the article would suffice). This however happens with distribution rights, and Universal seems to have purchased the re-distribution rights at this point in time... we would have to confirm this obviously, but given the fact that it was re-released as such - this is a strong indicator of this fact. Secondly, clarifying within the article that various sources of the time mentioned that the films were re-released to portray the fact that the films are more connected than they are. Needless to say, we cannot overstep the studio's classification of what is in the franchise and what is not. We will find plenty sources clarifying what is in the Universal Classic Monsters. Give me time, m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: It's also worth noting that the VHS collection, is referred to (with a logo) as "Universal Studios Monsters". This seems to be a less-definitive classification, whereas the "Universal Classic Monsters" is more specific and limited in its films that are included.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Which again suggests that Universal is very back and forth on what these films are. But sure, I hear you. If that's the case the only time I really see the term used sepcifically this way (this is original research here, but we're just chatting, not editing an article yet ;) ) is when Univeral re-released the films on DVD to promote ''Van Helsing'' in 2004. They've had several variations on the term "Universal Classic Monsters" or such for various home video lines. And of course please no rush, i'm just saying good luck! :) It's a complicated thing and I've bene slowly going through horror films of the 1930s and 1940s and mannnn people do not like to discuss these series as a whole. Understandably so. As these films went on, their plots often contradict each other, characters who re-appear sometimes have their names changed, it's a real mess. I wouldn't be against trying to write up some article on "Universal Horror" as opposed to the monsters a whole, as that's far more loose and probably gives more definition to what the style of these films are opposed to trying to connect these stories in my head which is its own migraine. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} I would say that the previous variations of the term are more of a descriptive word. "Universal Studios Monsters" isn't a franchise title. The official naming of the slate of films to be '''Universal Classic Monsters''' happened at one point or another. A section describing how the studio had released earlier variations suffices, and even listing those films that are semi-random in the VHS collection (as you pointed out) would be constructive. I will further assist with this when I have a moment. Right this second I am working on various drafts for other articles. I've been adding details to the [[Dark Universe (franchise)|Dark Universe]] page and that, in itself is a beast of its own. I will do some searching for this article a little later tonight. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Why did you removed the games section in the cast? I get it isn't part of the films and television but other franchises do have games in this section if à character from the films appear. For example the Mad Max franchise.<br />
:: [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht]]; the reason I removed the video game from the cast, is because typically they are considered "other media". Video games are more 'unofficial' anyhow. Also, you need to sign your comments.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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User:DisneyMetalhead; I mean nah. Of course they're other media but they're still official. I mean Snyder worked on this title so... If you have no problems with it I'll add it again. And delete the chronology section. I have no idea from where does the person have the information that they have to create a section like this. And thanks. I didn't knew I have to sign my comments. I don't really know how to do it. So I'll try --Derjenigederzukunftseht [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:35, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} I would suggest taking its inclusion to the talk page... video games are not typically included in cast tables. Additinally, as you state that Znyder created the VR game - you will need a source stating this. Additionally that chronology table should be deleted. Otherwise a reliable source is also needed for it. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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@DisneyMetalhead: yeah I know that. But they're there if the story of it is canon to the films or actors or characters come back. I didn't said that Snyder created the game but he worked on it with his production company. It was in the trailer for it. And I don't know how to refrence YT videos. And I deleted the chronology table. Cheers and thanks for this little talk. Also a question. When will the draft be put for review? Have a nice day/evening/night! --Derjenigederzukunftseht [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 23:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} anything that is added to the article needs to be sourced. Share the link of the video that you're talking about, here. As-is without the source, the VR is just 'other media'. The article can be submitted for review once it is finished/has enough sources for all of these extra things that editors are adding.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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@DisneyMetalhead: thanks for answering :). Here is link to the trailer of the VR Expierence https : // you tu .be / rGoq3X4QeKQ (played with the link that it can be sent) and here is link to the website where is logo of Snyder's production company https://armyofthedeadvr.com/. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
* Ahhh, I see. This isn't even a video game, it's an event/experience. This should be listed in an entirely different section altogether.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:27, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I mean it kinda is a video game. But yeah it's an VR experience. What section should it be lestés to? The Stone Quarry Wikipedia page is listing it as a game. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: It could be listed as a game/experience under the "In other media" section. It'd probably be best done in a paragraph format where it details how it works/studios involved/etc.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: OK thanks mate. I'm not a good person to do that unfortunately. You clearly see how my English isn't that good. And yeah. I'm trying to do the best and to write the most correct things on that page. One more time thank you. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 22:16, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::: {{re|Derjenigederzukenftseht}} I will hope back over to the draft when I have a minute and look at what has been added. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 08:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} thanks mate, cheers! And have a great day/evening/night!-- [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 13:44, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} I saw it. And it got made. That's amazing. And about those related short films. I have no idea how to find a relatable source when those are extras on Dawn of the Dead 2004 DVDs and Blu-rays. Those also are uploaded to YouTube by some guys but it's not official release. Only source I could find of them existing is Imdb and this forum. Ah and ''The Lost Tape Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is also in Zack Snyder's filmography Wikipedia page. I can try to dig deeper but have no idea if I find anything. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 15:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} Keep looking. There should be an official release or article about them somewhere. Try looking to see if there is an article about the home video release. Cheers m8! --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:30, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} I'll do it mate! Thanks. Cheers [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::{{re|DisneyMetalhead}} https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/48878/dawn_dead_ce.html as of now this review is the only thing that I found. And They doesn't talk about the short films at all just listed them with other extras and ''The Lost Tape:Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is on the extras called ''Andy's Lost Tape'' for short. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::: In this review those shorts are listed and shortly described. ''The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is here still shortened to ''Andy's Lost Tape'' https://weliveentertainment.com/we-live-entertainment/bluray-digital-dvd-news/dawn-dead-2004-scream-factory-blu-ray-review/<br />
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Do you think this could be added as a reference? [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} those are fine resources as they are first-hand reviews of the home video release. The only one of the 3 that you have been adding that is actually a 'short film' however is ''Andy’s Lost Tape''. If you read the review on the [https://weliveentertainment.com/we-live-entertainment/bluray-digital-dvd-news/dawn-dead-2004-scream-factory-blu-ray-review/] source, the other two ones are "behind the scenes featurettes" which don't really belong on this page. Additionally, as ''Dawn of the Dead'' is not in this continuity, the only reason it is listed on this page under "related film" is because this franchise is a "spiritual sequel" to ''Dawn''. Anything about this one short featurette film probably shouldn't be listed in its own section. We may need a new discussion at the [[Talk:Army of the Dead (franchise)]] article to see how to best include that one small bonus feature. You'll want to start a conversation there and pin me, as well as all other recent contributors. I would, but I'm constantly working on multiple drafts between my personal life events. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} well not exactly. I watched all 3 on my Blu-ray. And Special Report: Zombie Invasion chronicles the first 26 hours of the Zombie pandemic. And in it are some of the news reports saw on screen in the film. Like the one with Tom Savini. And the Undead and Loving it: A Mockumentary is a 5 minutes long mockumentary on how it was to work with real zombies on the set. That they were slower and that kind of stuff. But the rest of the specials are behind the scenes. And yeah those are 2 separate universes but I thought that it sh9be listed as it's connected with Dawn. And thank you :). I'll start the discussion on the talk page and I'll pin you there,but not today. I'm going to sleep now here's 12am now. Again thanks and I get it have fun doing those drafts and have a great day/night/evening. Cheers mate! :) [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 22:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. Two things. Just curious where you are getting these "official" and "real title" information from when you've been editing the some of the older Universal titles. The current article on the Universal Classic Monsters section sets right out that it's a home video line. Nothing has been added otherwise that suggests anything else. So why did you add those other titles? [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 14:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} as has been stated ad nauseam on talk page... perceptions is not at all what determines how an article should be made. The purpose of this article is to include all of the Universal Classic Monsters and the previous packagings/collections. The official titles that I adjusted was ''The Bride of Frankenstein''. As you can see on the poster, this is indeed the official title. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah but you had no source on "official titles" where did the information come from? Half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 23:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} frankly, what are you talking about? Please provide specifics. I don't have any clue what you man by "half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said". What movies are you referring to with that declarative statement, m8? Each of the titles I adjusted... specifically ''The Bride of Frankenstein'', I got the title from the film poster.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::: Sure. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Black_Cat_(1934_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1033567905&diffmode=source here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dracula_(1931_Spanish-language_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1033567451&diffmode=source here] just to name a few. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 08:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Andrzejbanas}} I see. Those are indeed the official titles. What do I have to explain about this? Look at the posters for the Edgar Allen Poe films, and then look up the official title of the Spanish Language ''Dracula''.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
: I've watched the Spanish Dracula from the Universal blu-ray. There is no accent. And the current poster has no accent. and it's not referred to the title with the accent. Same for the other other films when I recently did research. I'd try to get some more attention from [[WP:FILM]] to see what others say here. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: Resume the conversation on the talk page. The film has an accent mark because it is in Spanish. It is credited as such on several film sites as well.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::You seem to be conflating film sites and posters with the actual films themselves. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
{{re|Attic Salt}} please take this discussion back to the talk page as previously stated. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:The issue is not the articles, for which I might use the article talk pages, but you. You are making changes to article about movies that are inconsistent with the movies. Please stop this, and please revert your mistakes. Thank you. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:39, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Attic Salt}} there is a discussion there, which is why I have requested that you take your statements/opinions there. I have not made any mistakes in listing the films with their official titles per the posters and film sites as well. If you feel this is an error, once again take this to the film articles' pages where there are discussions ongoing. Cheers again m8s!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::Excuse me, but you need to participate in the discussion at [[Bride of Frankenstein]]. You've dropped out of that discussion while your mistakes are being discussed there. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:57, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{outdent}} ''All's Well That Ends Well'' (cit.) "reverting recent BOLD, but under-discussed move" {{ping|Netoholic}} said {{(:}} --[[User:Kasper2006|Kasper2006]] ([[User talk:Kasper2006|talk]]) 06:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the update, and for being collaborative. Cheers m8s!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, just a heads-up that you should check for existing move requests before changing page names. You moved [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker)]] to [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1951)]], but a previous [[Talk:Thomas Lennon (filmmaker)#Requested move 5 August 2017|RM]] in 2017 was found to be against moving the article to that title. As for your move of [[Thomas Lennon]] to [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1970)]], there was a previous RM that [[Talk:Thomas Lennon#Requested move 28 April 2016|resulted]] in that article's current undisambiguated title. As a result, these pages shouldn't be moved without a new discussion. [[User:Nohomersryan|Nohomersryan]] ([[User talk:Nohomersryan|talk]]) 03:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thanks for responding. I don't object to boldness if no one has touched the pages. After all, I moved [[Thomas Lennon (screenwriter)]] to [[Thomas Lennon (screenwriter, born 1896)]] way back when. But shuffling an existing [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] setup is usually controversial and requires an rm, especially if one has already happened, going against one can devolve into a semi-wheelwar. [[User:Nohomersryan|Nohomersryan]] ([[User talk:Nohomersryan|talk]]) 03:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::: I noticed you had made the move on one of the articles. I didn't see it being controversial as it is only intended to add clarity and simplify the overly-complex nature of the disambiguation page. I will take to the talk articles. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi, and thank you for [[Special:Contributions/DisneyMetalhead|your contributions]] to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into [[:Draft:Uglies (film)]]. This is known as a "[[Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves|cut-and-paste move]]", and it is undesirable because it splits the [[Help:Page history|page history]], which is [[Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia|legally required for attribution]]. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be ''moved'' to a new title together with their edit history.<br />
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In most cases for registered users, once your account is [[Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed|four days old and has ten edits]], you should be able to move an article yourself using the [[Help:Moving a page|"Move" tab]] at the top of the page (the tab may be [[:File:Vector hidden move button.png|hidden in a dropdown menu]] for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect]] from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested moves]] to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at [[Wikipedia:Requests for history merge]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-c&pmove --> <small>[[User:Bovineboy2008|BOVINEBOY]]</small>[[User talk:Bovineboy2008|2008]] 16:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
:* I definitely did NOT copy and paste any article draft, to create my own. Looking over what you have stated -- it seems that the previous draft (that I was completely unaware of) used the same sources as I did, and given the fact that the sources alone are few and lacking in detail -- the key points of the source were used by the both of us. I apologize for the mistake, but I genuinely didn't see/know there was another draft already in development.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::PS - had I known there was a draft, I would have simply added to it and then moved it to the mainspace. I have plenty of experience adding to articles and/or moving them to the mainspace. Again, I apologize that I didn't see the previous draft. I had only seen the "film adaptation" details on the books/novel pages.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Draft:Machiko Noguchi]] ==<br />
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Help making page for [[Draft:Machiko Noguchi]]? [[User:Molarium|Molarium]] ([[User talk:Molarium|talk]]) 11:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Molarium}} I have zero knowlegdge of this topic, and after looking at the article it appears as though this would be a page about a fictional character(?). Generally I don't see the value in articles about characters, and would argue that the character should be discussed on the page that deals with the comic book series, but you're going to need a lot of reliable sources as well.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== PROD on redirects ==<br />
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Hi DisneyMetalhead, you've recently [[Special:Diff/1109655128|added]] a PROD tag to {{noredirect|Mufasa: The Lion King}}, which is currently a redirect. [[WP:PROD]] "cannot be used with redirects", although you can use {{Tlp|Db-move}} (it'll also be faster!). I've removed the tag for now. Thanks for your contributions and happy editing! [[User:Justiyaya|'''<span style="color:#1d556d">Just</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/Justiyaya|'''<span style="color:#000000">i</span>''']][[User talk:Justiyaya#top|'''<span style="color:#6d351d">yaya</span>''']] 13:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:: Awesome, thanks m8! That'll be nice to have completed. I have put the Db-move request there as suggested. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Draft:Mufasa: The Lion King ==<br />
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I removed the speedy from the redirect Mufasa: The Lion King. I'm not sure that [[Draft:Mufasa: The Lion King]] is ready to be moved yet. If it is just let me know and I can take care of it. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]], [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 05:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== September 2022 ==<br />
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I have asked for the [[DC Universe (franchise)]] page to be deleted, however it seems my proposal will fail. If that happens I would start a discussion to seek consensus on whether to separate the Gunn and Safran's projects from the DCEU article, because having them in both articles will be redundant. However I would suggest including the upcoming 4 films in some way. Just a heads up so there isn't another dispute. [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 11:51, 1 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Other users have already removed Gunn and Safran's projects and it seems without any discussion, which is problematic. Regardless I have no energy left for arguing with more people so I'm not going to try to argue with them. User consensus can decide whatever it wants. Anyway I hope you have a good day. Cheers! [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 01:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:: I agree that it was premature for editors to move things, as we discussed last night. I have taken to the talk page with an update from Gunn where he states that he is ''not'' rebooting the DCEU, and that ''The Flash'' doesn't reset everything. I will try to go in and re-add those projects with that update from Gunn. The DC Universe (franchise) article has no grounds at this point. Hope to continue working on the article with you and all the other editors in peace and collaboration. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::: Don't try to add the projects back on your own for right now. I would have done it myself, but it's clear some users are insistent on separating the articles. Let's discuss first and have consensus. Or this can turn into a full-scale edit war. [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 04:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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I agree with that. I [[WP:BOLD]]ly reverted the edits and have since taken to each of the discussions with Gunn's new comment/clarification. You'll see my comments at each of those talk page discussions.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. We don't ever add mentions of characters to "Cast". Cast means "the actors in a film, play, or show". [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 17:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Roman Reigns Fanboy}} From what I had seen he features in a still photograph. I'll have to find a better source. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
::: If you have seen the movie, you can see the character in a still image playing football (helmet obscuring the stand-in actor, as Ray Fisher did not reprise the role). Still searching for a reliable ref for this one.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 13:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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I see that you have a number of draft articles that will be deleted in a few hours. They are about film franchises. I looked on your user talk page to see if there were messages from Firefly Bot but these drafts are several years old at this point so I guess you got the 5 month notices in past years. So, I don't know if you are keeping your own record of your draft articles that you have been working on. You can find the August 6th list of expiring drafts at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SDZeroBot/G13_soon&direction=next&oldid=1167805842 this page], so maybe if you scan the list, you can identify your drafts in case you want to keep them. If they are already deleted, you can request their restoration at [[WP:REFUND]]. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 21:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Liz}} Is it common for the articles being proposed for deletion to not be notified the way that some of these weren't? I am working on getting these drafts reinstated. I do keep a list of the ones I am working on, but had some unexpected personal events come up that took up my time. Thanks for notifying me.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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That's a lot. I know not all, perhaps most, won't be ready to be reviewed to be an article any time soon, as they are about projects that aren't even started. Are you sure you want them all restored? Do you have updates ready for all of them? - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 16:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
::{{re|UtherSRG}} There are updates, and additional information that I need to add to each of them. They are all works-in-progress currently.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. Looks like another admin has performed the restores. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 16:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
::::Except for the two typos in your requests. :) You fixed one, and I fixed the other. I've restored the two additional articles. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 17:00, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I Wikilinked the three films to the new series page. I think there are other places where Wikilinks could be added but will save that for you. Cheers!--[[User:CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) 21:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Your LDS-related page moves are controversial, please discuss them ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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You moved a number of pages from the ''Latter Day Saints'' spelling to ''Latter-day Saints''. However there is a long-standing convention at Wikipedia that the first spelling is for topic related to the [[Latter Day Saint movement]] as a whole, and the second spelling to the [[The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]].<br />
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This is too uncontroversial to be done without discussion, especially after you have been reverted once.<br />
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If your reasons are good, you will most probably succeed in changing the name of these pages. However, you should not engage in [[WP:edit warring|edit warring]], especially do not start a [[Wikipedia:Page-move war|page-move war]].<br />
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Please discuss at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement]] and/or [[Talk:Latter Day Saint movement]]. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 18:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
:[[User:Place Clichy]] I did not think that the moves would be controversial. I have simply been trying to get all the articles fixed (as there are many of them). While there are sects of churches that go by "Latter Day Saints", the articles that I had changed seemed to be related to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints instead. I was simply trying to be accurate, and helpful. I will follow your suggestions.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:08, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: I have no doubt that you want to be helpful. However, many pages start with a notice like this one on {{oldid2|1183499208|Temple (Latter Day Saints)}}: <br />
:: {{about|temples in the [[Latter Day Saint movement]]|temples only in [[the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]]|Temple (LDS Church)}}<br />
:: There's even a hidden commentary visible when you edit the page: <code><nowiki><!-- Note to editors, Latter-day Saint refers specifically to the largest, Utah-based denomination. When referring to history shared amongst other denominations use Latter Day Saint --></nowiki></code>.<br />
:: Discussion is now open at {{section link|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement|Latter Day Saints or Latter-day Saints?}}. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 18:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
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"''DisneyMetalhead moved page Talk:Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (film) to Talk:Santa Claus is Comin' to Town (TV special): corrected spelling (per the official logo the 'i' in "is" should be lower-case; also correcting article to be a TV special as this is what the release was''" <br />
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A title is a title. The standards of upper and lower cases are not affected by the font used in the artwork for a title. For the same reason the "t" in "to" isn't uppercase as shown on the TV special's title page, the "i" in "Is" is uppercase. [[MOS:TITLECAPS]] [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 16:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I have moved the page to its correct title, with the parenthetical still being {{tqq|(TV special)}}, but the capitalized {{tqq|Is}} per [[MOS:TITLECAPS]], which is what dictates capitalization in titles, not stylizations in marketing pieces such as posters. —''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) 18:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Very good. It seems the same case alteration has been made to ''[[The Easter Bunny is Comin' to Town|The Easter Bunny Is Comin' to Town]]''. [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 18:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::Fixed as well. —''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) 19:47, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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...{{re|Milladrive}} "a title is a title" and yet the copyright logo appears on the official logo creens of these TV specials. My main reason for moving the article title was the fact that it is a television special and not a film. Thank you {{re|Facu-el Millo}} for moving the article to this space.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Hi DisneyMetalhead, I am trying to update the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. I see that you contributed to the article in the past, and I'm hoping you will be interested in helping to update the page. Would you please consider implementing the edit request I posted at [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates]]? Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I went there and commented. Cheers m8! [[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi Disneymetalhead, I hope you are well. A while back you looked over my [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates|suggested changes]] for [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] and concluded that they were not controversial. I waited a while for other editors to weigh in, and when no one did, I made the changes to the article. Yesterday, another editor reverted them saying that I hadn't been given permission to make the edits (I presume referring to my COI). If you have a minute, would you make the edits yourself? I believe the issue was with my editing directly, not with the content, and that the changes genuinely improve the article. Thanks again for your help! [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO, <br />
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Norman Golightly, co-CEO, <br />
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Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
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|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
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|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
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|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
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|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
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|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
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|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the conversation, DisneyMetalhead. I have made the changes.[[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1233347374Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment2024-07-08T16:04:48Z<p>DJ for Katz: Resolved edit request as per conversation on Talk page</p>
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit table==<br />
"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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Hi, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I noticed that the current page is outdated and is lacking a number of sources. In order to update the information on the page while simultaneously adding the missing citations and removing unsourced material, I thought it would be easiest to propose a rewrite of the article. You can see my suggestions by clicking below.<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO, <br />
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Norman Golightly, co-CEO, <br />
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Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
<br />
<br />
| TBD<br />
<br />
|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the conversation, DisneyMetalhead. I have made the changes.</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1233347069Dark Castle Entertainment2024-07-08T16:02:21Z<p>DJ for Katz: Made updates to the page, as per conversation on the Talk page</p>
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<div>{{Short description|American film production label}}<br />
{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO,<br />
<br />
Norman Golightly, co-CEO,<br />
<br />
Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
<br />
Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
<br />
==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003-2013: More horror and action===<br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
<br />
The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced [[Last Breath (2025 film)]], which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]], [[Finn Cole]], and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{cite web |last=Lodderhouse |first=Diana |title=Focus Features Acquires 'Last Breath' Starring Woody Harrelson, Finn Cole and Simu Liu — Cannes |url=https://deadline.com/2024/05/focus-features-acquires-alex-parkinsons-last-breath-starring-woody-harrelson-finn-cole-and-simu-liu-1235918394/ |website=[[Deadline Hollywood]] |date=May 16, 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=D'Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Focus Features Sets Winter 2025 Release For Woody Harrelson Deep-Sea Diver Thriller ''Last Breath''|url=https://deadline.com/2024/06/woody-harrelson-last-breath-release-date-1235985867/|website=Deadline Hollywood|date=June 28, 2024|access-date=June 28, 2024}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 30, 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 28, 2025<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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<br />
| TBD<br />
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|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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== Retail Cannabis content addition ==<br />
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I am looking to add some content about OEG's recent work to this article, specifically about the Group's 2019 entry into retail cannabis, as supported by these sources:<br />
*https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/<br />
*https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/<br />
*https://www.oeg.ca/our-businesses/retail-cannabis (a primary source, only for reference)<br />
Similarly, the abovementioned sources reflect the rebranding of Oilers Entertainment Group as OEG Inc. Can the article be renamed accordingly? [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I've added a mention of Tokyo Smoke. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 16:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::I am marking this request as reviewed because the proposed changes appear to have been implemented. Best, '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082529">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T•</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 04:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Requested move 14 February 2023 ==<br />
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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Uncontested RM <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' ([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]]) 00:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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[[:Oilers Entertainment Group]] → {{no redirect|OEG Inc.}} – Oilers Entertainment Group recently rebranded, now known as OEG Inc. substantiated by [https://www.oeg.ca/about-us][https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/] and [https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/]. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Misplaced content ==<br />
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On June 25, an editor inserted content about CRA investigations of the OEG Inc.'s CEO, [[Jurgen Schreiber]]. This information has nothing to do with OEG Inc. or its operations; details of Schreiber's alleged personal financial misdoings belong on his page, not on OEG Inc.'s. I'd be grateful for the community's consideration of this change. Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1231300381Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment2024-06-27T16:01:28Z<p>DJ for Katz: Fixed reply</p>
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit table==<br />
"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO, <br />
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Norman Golightly, co-CEO, <br />
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Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
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|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
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|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
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|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
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|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
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|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
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|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
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|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
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|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
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|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
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|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
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|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
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<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
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|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
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(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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I hope you'll take a look and consider replacing the existing page with this updated version. Thanks in advance for your assistance, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|DJ for Katz}} this seems to be a good format. I'm not sure why it'd be controversial, as I didn't see many changes between you proposal and the current page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead|talk]]) 03:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Woops, I just realized I was logged into an old account that I've since discontinued. What I meant to post was:<br />
Thanks, {{u|DisneyMetalhead}}.<br />
I didn't think anything was controversial, but because of my conflict of interest I wanted to make sure to run it by the community first. I'm happy to make the changes to the article directly if that's ok with you, otherwise, do you mind implementing? Thanks for taking the time to read through the request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Curb_Safe_Charmer&diff=1231122871User talk:Curb Safe Charmer2024-06-26T16:00:00Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment */</p>
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== Hello there! ==<br />
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Hello there!<br />
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I am seeing that you're not supporting me to post a certain article on wiki. Can I know the reason please, I think "Hussain Saddam" have that much popularity to be on Wikipedia.<br />
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Thanks [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 09:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Siddiqee Shrestha}} I have already provided reasons, both at the top of [[Draft:Hussain Saddam]] and on [[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|your user talk page]], so it is a concern that you've clearly not read that feedback.<br />
:The Wikipedia community has established criteria for which people should have articles about them in the encyclopedia and which should not. See [[WP:NBIO]] and [[WP:NPOL]] to understand that it is not about 'popularity'. Before being re-reviewed, your draft would need to show through the references that his life has been written about ''in depth'' by multiple, reliable, independent publications. At the moment, several of the references you've used are dead links. You'll also need to ensure that the article is written neutrally, which it isn't at the moment. See [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 09:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Okay got it. I am going to update the references soon. [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 10:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I have added more references, and cleared dead references. [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 20:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Inaccessible references ==<br />
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Hi!<br />
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I read your comment on [[Draft:Lina Hamdan]]. I accessed all my references in Canada, so I didn't expect the links not to work somewhere else in the West (maybe all .sy websites are blocked? No clue.) I digress -- how do I make sure the links are accessible? Wayback machine doesn't have any captures of the websites. Should I [try to] archive them on there? Link them by PDF? <br />
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I'm relatively new to this so I really appreciate your feedback! <br />
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[[User:Leo.S.Hussain|Leo.S.Hussain]] ([[User talk:Leo.S.Hussain|talk]]) 17:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Leo.S.Hussain}} it seems it was a temporary problem. I have reviewed the sources now, and have accepted the draft. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 07:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== I'd like to know what your username's an anagram of... ==<br />
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...as your page mentions that fact. Perhaps we can talk it over through e-mail? --[[User:Slgrandson|Slgrandson]] <small>([[User talk:Slgrandson|How's my]] [[Special:Contributions/Slgrandson|egg-throwing coleslaw?]])</small> 00:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== MacDroid ==<br />
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I've moved the empty draft to a different title, and it is still tagged for deletion. I've moved the sandbox draft into draft space. The version that is now in draft space is still not ready for article space, but at least is now where the reviewers look at it, in draft space. '[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Declined article ==<br />
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Hi this is Ruquiya. I cannot understand the specific reason for decline. Read more like an advertisement or neutral point of view, i think my article about Aarti BR Singh is not at all an advertisement. Its her life journey. I have given many references which i believe are independent. [[User:Ruquiya Jabeen|Ruquiya Jabeen]] ([[User talk:Ruquiya Jabeen|talk]]) 08:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Ruquiya Jabeen}} examples of promotional langugage: "bold personality", "incredibly autonomous", "two lovely children", "most ambitious girl", "effectively raising her children", "sacrificing her entire career". While you have added references, they are not inline, so it is impossible to see which statements can be verified by which references. See [[Help:Footnotes]] and [[Help:Referencing for beginners with citation templates]]. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 11:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for detail description. Allow me sometime to check them. [[User:Ruquiya Jabeen|Ruquiya Jabeen]] ([[User talk:Ruquiya Jabeen|talk]]) 07:44, 21 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment ==<br />
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Hi Curb Safe Charmer, I am trying to update the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. I see that you are a member of [[WP:Companies]] and that you have successfully worked on many articles, so I thought you might be interested in helping to update the page. I hope you will consider implementing the edit request I posted at [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates]]. Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 14:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:As you've tagged your comment as an edit request, an editor will be along in due course to consider your request. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 19:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for your time, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DisneyMetalhead&diff=1231122588User talk:DisneyMetalhead2024-06-26T15:57:45Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment */ new section</p>
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Thanks for the heads up! I've done edits in the past, but it's been a while so I forgot about the referencing. I re-added it and added a citation too. Thanks for your help.<br />
--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry, merry!==<br />
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From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! [[User:Bzuk|FWiW Bzuk]] ([[User talk:Bzuk|talk]]) 14:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC) [[File:Lights ablaze.JPG|80px]]<br />
::I'm somehow only just barely noticing this, {{ping|Bzuk}}. Thank you for the wishes. Hope that yours was terrific as well!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 06:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2'' ==<br />
Hey [[User:DisneyMetalhead]], I have noticed that you have been engaged in an edit debate with [[User:Rusted AutoParts|Rusted AutoParts]], who reverted edits without any sources, multiple times that you have made. Since this is debate for them, and I can read that you have been condensing sentences, I am only bringing this up so that it can be resolved correctly. Since you have a debate with other editors, you as well as they need to take it to the talk-page. In their most recent revert they told you to go to the talk page....I don't think this is not something that should be a matter of talk page debate. However, since it's an issue I am bringing it up to both of you. I have posted the same on their talk page, and hope this will be resolved correctly.--[[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|50.232.205.246]] ([[User talk:50.232.205.246|talk]]) 17:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the heads up! I'll be sure to voice my opinion there.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Collaborative recognition==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Here, have a cookie for the additional work you put into the [[Ron Howard]] page. That filmography was a mess, and though I would've liked to have finished it myself - props to you for your contribution.--[[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|50.232.205.246]] ([[User talk:50.232.205.246|talk]]) 17:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks [[Special:Contributions/50.232.205.246|User:50.232.205.246]]! Sorry I got stoked that someone was finally beginning to clean up the page and wanted to join in. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Franchise Article ==<br />
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Instead of changing the X-men film series page to a franchise page, has anyone just created a franchise article directly? Sort of like how there is a main [[Marvel Cinematic Universe|MCU]] article, but also separate articles for the [[List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films|MCU films]] and [[List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series|MCU television]] series. With how insistent a certain editor is that only their edits are correct (I'm experiencing that first hand in a different [[List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company|article]] at the moment), perhaps this would be the best option? That way the film article can be kept as such while still having an article that explains the film and television X-men universe? -[[User:AnonWikiEditor|AnonWikiEditor]] ([[User talk:AnonWikiEditor|talk]]) 10:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I already created the franchise article once, but it was turned down by editors through the article move request.[[User:Hotwiki|TheVeryHotWikipedian]] ([[User talk:Hotwiki|talk]]) 11:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::[[User:AnonWikiEditor]], I have suggested such a move, and it would make sense as the MCU has multiple pages as you pointed out. [[User:Hotwiki]], why don't you try again? Times change, the world changes, Wikipedia can too.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 13:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasons' Greetings ==<br />
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[[File:The Great White North.jpg|100px|left]] ...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! [[User:Bzuk|FWiW Bzuk]] ([[User talk:Bzuk|talk]]) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|Bzuk}} wow sorry for the extremely delayed response. Thank you for reaching out to me in December 2017. Hope things are going well for you. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== [[DC Extended Universe]] ==<br />
=== January 2018 ===<br />
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I understand your reasons but according to [https://movieweb.com/deadshot-lobo-movies-canceled-dc/ this source] DC cancels Deadshot and Lobo movies, as well as Birds of Prey movie seems to have been cancelled.--[[User:Dipralb|Dipralb]] ([[User talk:Dipralb|talk]]) 14:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: That source says the aren't sure what the status is. The title even has a question mark. Journalists are assuming/questioning what's going to happen because at this point we do not know.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:55, 18 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. The original source about Flashpoint movie, cited for ScreenRant, it's from Variety, [http://variety.com/2018/film/news/flash-movie-directors-john-francis-daley-jonathan-goldstein-1202665854/], and it's of negotiations, not an official attachment to the project. Why consider as official attachment?[[User:OscarFercho|OscarFercho]] ([[User talk:OscarFercho|talk]]) 13:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
[[User:OscarFercho]] - the directors are officially under 'negotiations'. That is a contractual obligation. The article isn't about 'rumors', 'discussions' or anything of that nature. Therefore they are officially attached. One of the two directors also confirmed their attachment on their social media page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:But you're wrong, negotiations it's not a contractual obligation, not yet until an official announcement.[[User:OscarFercho|OscarFercho]] ([[User talk:OscarFercho|talk]]) 05:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
'In negotiations' means that a studio is negotiating a contract. "In talks" means 'rumored' or in 'discussion'/see also 'considered'. Besides that one of the directors confirmed their involvement on their own social media page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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=== August 2018 ===<br />
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A couple days ago, that page was protected, requiring autoconfirmed or confirmed access status to edit (for 2 months). There had since been a noticeable peace, and much less disruption. Certainly a good example to support the argument for '''[[WP:TBRACW|mandatory account creation]] (MAC)'''. I only mention this here because I noticed you doing a lot of clean up work on the page. Was curious to see if you support MAC. Cheers - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User:Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 04:38, 19 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I don't necessarily think that it's a bad idea. I also believe that input from all editors is important however, though I guess they could take to the talk page anytime they want to.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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=== January 2020 (A)-resolved ===<br />
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]].<br />
* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:Talk:DC Extended Universe|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant notice boards]].<br />
* If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents|Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]].<br />
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:DC Extended Universe]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. ''There was ''extremely'' strong consensus against adding Blackhawk to the in development section. Trying to add it back months later hoping no one will notice is disruptive editing. I really don't want to have to report you to [[WP:AN]], so consider this your final warning.''<!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 12:06, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|TheJoebro64}} how can you claim this, when I placed reliable sources within the edit? I have since taken the topic to the talk-page for the article. I ''hadn't'' {{tq|"hop[ed] no one will notice"}} as you assumed/accused. If you read my edit summaries, I explained my reasoning. The discussion I have posted on the talk page, further explains the reasoning. A previous consensus can become out of date. That's the reality of ongoing developments. Needless to say I also, '''was not''' in violation of the [[WP:3RR]]...--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not a 3RR warning; the reason I warned you is because you know there's consensus in place. If there's a consensus in place, that consensus is retained, ''even'' if you think it's out of date. If so, you need to gain a new consensus. What I meant by "hoping no one will notice" is that I've gotten the impression that you seem to think that waiting a little while to re-implement an edit that was contested and blocked in the past is OK, which it isn't. [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 17:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::''Again'', you're assuming my thought processes. I don't believe that time ''alone'' voids old decisions. I'm stating that time - with new information - can cause a consensus to be outdated.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:06, 11 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{tpw}} That's true, but you need to present the new information in either the original or new discussion on the same topic to gain support that the original consensus is outdated. A consensus by multiple editors can not be overruled by a single editor. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 12:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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=== January 2020 (B)-RESOLVED===<br />
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Your behavior on the DC Extended Universe discussion page is getting somewhat confrontational. Please keep calm, as letting your temper get the best of you will accomplish nothing. I get that you are an evangelical Christian, but you can''not'' hold others to that standard. Therefore, clapping back at Darkknight for using the word 'Jesus' is only going to paint you as having skin that is too thin. I assure you: Jesus can take care of himself; he doesn't need you to defend his name (that whole Matthew 7:1 thing). <br><br />
Take a moment and realign yourself to working better with others, please. You will find that people are a ''lot'' more open to your editorial suggestions when you remain calm and focus on the edits, and not the editor. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 07:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Please try your post in the DCEU article talk again. I put the term "one sentence only" in italics for a reason. If you are having trouble boiling your view into a single sentence, I can help you, but this doesn't seem to be a task you cannot handle. Please edit your response to reflect the idea of providing a single, brief sentence to explain your viewpoint. Thanks. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 08:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::: {{ping|Jack Sebastian}} Just so you are aware, anytime there is a discussion - there will be differing input and angles. This does not mean there is confrontation, but that two editors disagree. It does not necessarily mean that I am not calm. In fact, I have simply been trying to state facts with sources over opinion. Additionally, I was not attempting to hold anyone to my standards. I simply asked the editor to respect my beliefs, as I would anyone else's. I have made various articles and edits over years and various usernames. I assure you I do not have anything but "thick skin". Lastly I would like to acknowledge that I have tried in this above response^ to indicate that I am "remain[ing] calm" and [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL[ity] #Avoid[] incivility...by ''Explain[ing] [My]self'']]. I am merely seeking to preserve an article, its topic, and its notability within an online encyclopedia. Lastly thank you for attempting to be a peace-maker. It is appreciated. Cheers!<br>P.S. I responded to your request on the said talk-page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 08:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for responding, and I appreciate that you read through and did not take umbrage. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 16:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Likewise, {{ping|Jack Sebastian}}. As you saw I placed a barnstar on your talk-page for your efforts to be civil/collaborative, and in being a peacekeeper throughout the ongoing discussions. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right back atcha. :) - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 05:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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=== February 2020 ===<br />
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Stop [[WP:BLUDGEON]]ing the discussion. As you have been told repeatedly, there's no sense in continuing in circles. Your behaviour is becoming increasingly disruptive. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 05:59, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Darkknight2149}} just because I disagree with your statements, and have pointed out their inaccuracies, does not mean I am [[WP:BLUDGEON]]ing. {{orange|"Bludgeoning is when a user dominates the conversation in order to persuade others to their point of view."}}...{{orange|"everyone should have the opportunity to express their views, within reasonable limits."}} When a discussion occurs, someone who disagrees with you - who has sources will respond to your claims. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:19, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, there is no disruptive behavior. Just preserving an article, with the sources I have provided.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:21, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::This should have been filed under '''Crocodile Dundee (film series)'''. I'm glad someone corrected that.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Excellent work [[User:AmericanAir88|AmericanAir88]] ([[User talk:AmericanAir88|talk]]) 17:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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When more than one grieving person decides to edit an excellent article, it becomes very hard to coordinate changes. But now it is getting the shape it deserves. Thankee to all! [[User:SilSinn9821|SilSinn9821]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9821|talk]]) 20:11, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks [[User:Hayholt]]! Is there something particular that I did to receive this? Much appreciated.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{ping|Hayholt}} I'm just trying to find what article I had worked on for this [[WP:BS]]. I appreciate the award, and would just like to file it on my page accordingly. Cheers M8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Excellent work ==<br />
I am very pleased with your initiative with the [[Alien (franchise)]]. I've done extensive work on the Alien franchise pages in the past, including saving from deletion and bringing up to FL status [[List of Alien characters]], as well as creating [[David 8]] and bringing it to GA status. I'm planning on joining in with the main franchise page cleanup - primarily to reduce the presence of the copy-pasted material from the AvP pages and to add clarity. There can certainly be AvP content mentioned, but it shouldn't be a cornerstone of the page, by any means. I would have joined in earlier, but there's been a pretty significant dispute with TurokSwe that needed to be addressed on AN/I, before anything else. Anyways, keep up the good work! '''[[User:DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">D<small>ÅRTH</small>B<small>ØTTØ</small></span>]]'''<sub>&nbsp;([[User talk:DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">T</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/DarthBotto|<span style="color:#38003B">C</span>]])</sub> 21:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks {{ping|DarthBotto}}! Trying to get it to feel less cluttered and more organized, as you are. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Prod of {{noredirect|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in film}} ==<br />
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Hello, I have removed the [[WP:PROD]] tag you placed on the redirect page {{noredirect|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in film}}, as your requested move is better served through the [[WP:RM|requested move]] process. If you believe that the move is truly uncontroversial, you may tag the redirect page with {{tlx|db-move}}. &mdash;<span style="color:#808080">[[User:Kuyabribri|'''KuyaBriBri''']]</span><sup><span style="color:#008080">[[User_Talk:Kuyabribri|''Talk'']]</span></sup> 20:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: {{ping|Kuyabribri}} thanks for the heads up! I have placed the suggested template there as the separate film series should be divided on a page which has a title indicating there are multiple interpretations of the same product (i.e.: various film series). Thanks for the help.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Nomination of [[:Top Gun (film series)]] for deletion ==<br />
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* {{ping|BilCat}}, uhhhhh no. Definitely poor reasons to delete a page. I have commented there now.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 12:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I noticed you add ''Blue'' to [[List of Walt Disney Pictures films]]. The film has been renamed to ''[[Dolphin Reef (film)|Dolphin Reef]]'', with a planned US release date on November 12, 2019. I think its better to focus on US release dates for films, rather than earlier International release dates. Thoughts? [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 01:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Cardei012597}} ''Blue'' is not the same movie as ''Dolphin Reef''. They are two separate films, though they are both about the ocean. ''Blue'' was an exclusive film only released in France.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I am sorry to say this, but you are incorrect. There are many articles online that describe the production, delay, and release of Blue/Dolphins/Dolphin Reef. There may of been edits or cuts of ''Blue'', but Disneynature planned on ONE Dolphin centered film, which began as Blue, evolved as Dolphins, then to Dolphin Reef. There are articles, even on the ''Dolphin Reef'' page, that describe ''Blue'' and ''Dolphin Reef'' as the same film/production. If you are interested, I can provide the references for my case. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 04:55, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Just by researching briefly, I found this quote from a reliable source <ref>https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/best-disneynature-movies</ref> "For some reason, the team nixed the Natalie Portman-narrated Dolphins last year, only a week before its release. (A version was released in France under the name Blue.)" If you require more references that prove my claim, I can provide them. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 05:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Another reliable source <ref>https://whatsondisneyplus.com/disneynatures-dolphin-reef-coming-to-disney/</ref> stated this: "DisneyNature was originally going to released this movie in 2018, under the name “Dolphins”, but was pulled from release in the US. It did get released in France, under the title Blue." [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 05:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|Cardei012597}} You stated it yourself: "a version was released in France under the name ''Blue''". It's not the same movie. It's a different film/different cut and only released in France, just as I stated.<br />
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I literally had this exact same debate over whether if Once Upon a Deadpool was a ''different film'' from ''Deadpool 2''. Recut or re-edited films are NEVER considered different film and deserving to be on a film list. ''Blue'' is the ''Once Upon a Deadpool'', a re-edited version of the same film. If you truly believe that re-edited versions of the SAME film should exist, than maybe you should also add the re-edited versions of EVERY Disney theatrical film. Discussions like this has been taken place, on whether to include re-edited, recut versilms of films and describe them as a new film, with Administrators. This is why on the Lucasfilm film table they do NOT include the re-releases with the Special editions. The best course of action to our discussion is to add ''Blue'' to the NOTES section of ''Dolphin Blue'', similar to how the people resolved the ''Once Upon a Deadpool'' issue. I think this compromise is fair, acknowledging ''Blue'' as a French re-edit of an American made film, but understanding that the ''List of Walt Disney Pictures'' focuses on the U.S. release of a film. I will add this note to the Disney page. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 16:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, I added the note. You can check it out now on ''List of Walt Disney Pictures films''. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 16:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Cardei012597}} Definitely, not. What you don't realize is that Disneynature is a French-American studio. Much of the production takes place in France. As such, the fact that Disney decided to scrap the American release of ''Blue'' (if ''Thrillest'' is actually a reliable source, which I'd question as much) does not render it defunct and un-listable here. Your comparison to ''Once Upon a Deadpool'' is a poor comparison. ''Blue'' is the film as it was going to be released...just released in France. It is not a redo/recut/revisit/special edition. It is the film as shot. Whether or not ''Dolphin Reef'' for Disney+ is the same movie, there are no sources for. No WP:OR on an online encyclopedia. For these reasons, I am reverting the edit to how it was before.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Stop removing sources and adding movie not released under the DisneyNature banner. ''Le Premier Cri'' was released by Disney France was not released under the DisneyNature banner. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 23:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Spshu}} ''The Thrillist'' is not a reliable source. In any way shape or form. Secondly this page is about productions that were made by Disneynature. Disneynature helped make ''Le Premier Cri''. Plain as day. Therefore it should be on this page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:36, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: Additionally, 'whatsondisneyplus' is '''not''' by any means reliable either. That is a fan page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:42, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Sorry but I have not seen a source that credits Disney Nature on ''Le Premier Cri''. So it is not "Plain as day." that is worst then having a non-reliable source, your original research. You kept The Thrillist as a reliable source in your edits, so you do think that it is reliable. And I never said whatsondisneyplus is reliable. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 12:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Spshu}} once again, as I have stated. The film was released by Walt Disney Pictures France, in a joint production juncture with Disneynature Productions. That is plain as day. You want a source, I'll add one. To revert to that goppy messy format is deconstructive to the page. Likewise both ''Thrillist'' and ''whatsondisneyplus'' are poor sources. I have not added them - they need to be removed. They were added previously by another editor.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::How about stop parroting your last statement. No, it is not "plain as day." Personal preferences about tables doesn't make a table "goppy messy format". I suggest that you keep the basic table formatting, so it isn't hard for others to add rows. You are not moving the discussion forward. You have kept and moved the Thrillist source while removing one use of it. I told you I agree with you about whatsondisneyplus. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 15:53, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
::chroniquedisney.fr designated that it is an "an amateur site", so not a reliable source. Google Play doesn't indicate that it is a "Disneynature Productions". ratingraph.com doesn't seem reliable. [https://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film434277.html filmaffinity.com] shows: "Productora: Wild Bunch / Mai Juin Productions / M6 Films / Canal+ / M6" [https://en.unifrance.org/movie/27509/premier-cri UniFrance]: "Executive Producer : Mai Juin Productions ; Film exports/foreign sales : Wild Bunch ; Co-productions : M6 Films, Buena Vista International - Allemagne ; French distribution : Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International (ex-Buena Vista International France)" and the press kits there do not list DisneyNature. VOD releases are Direct to video as it is in a digital format and seen in home or where a device can go. [[User:Spshu|Spshu]] ([[User talk:Spshu|talk]]) 22:21, 13 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Spshu}} there are no domesticated fowl in this conversation. Remember to [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|'''Avoid Incivilty''', ''Be professional'', and ''Avoid condescension'']]. The coding format is messy, in that it is cluttered. My edits were to clear up the coding format, in order to simplify for other editors. What I have stated are facts of production studios involved. Each of the sources provided list each of the production studios including Disneynature Productions. The film is a France-only release and so it is difficult to find an article breakdown of the studios involved. However, each of the sources provided lists Disneynature. The ratinggraph site is a reliable source - and a film production breakdown website. Additionally [[VOD]] is different from Home-video release/straight-to-video. VOD, though similar to direct-to-video in its approach as a "straight-to-consumer" product, is only available through streaming/online means. There is enough destinctive difference to render listing it as such. For each of these reasons, my editos need to remain. Cheers, bub.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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=== ''Blue'' and ''Dolphin Reef'' ===<br />
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Do you have any proof of both movies being seperate? [[User:LTPHarry|Luigitehplumber]] ([[User talk:LTPHarry|talk]]) 13:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: The proof is in the creatives involved in the film. The co-production studio on ''Blue'' ([https://www.silverbackfilms.tv/shows/disneynature-dolphins-blue/ Silverback Films]) is not involved in any way, shape or form with ''Dolphin Reef''. The producers on ''Blue'' were: Jane Hamlin, Keith Scholey, Ingrid Kvale, and Daniel Rasmussen; while the producers on ''Dolphin Reef'' are: Roy Conli, Alastair Fothergill, David S. Grant, Daniel Rasmussen, and Keith Scholey. ''Blue'' was co-directed by Keith Scholey and Alastair Fothergill, while ''Dolphin Reef'' is directed solely by Keith Scholey. What this tells any viewer, is that there are differing creatives involved. The two films, though both about dolphins, are different movies.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== The Invisible Man ==<br />
There has been no announcements about the future of The Dark Universe and whether The Invisible man is apart of it, so please remove the information. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: You're incorrect, again {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}}. The Dark Universe was simply re-evaluated, reconfigured to be a franchise of standalone feature films (just like the original Universal Classic Monsters). The studio has stated that for the time being they will focus on individual stories, instead of jumping right into crossovers (the Dark Universe original plan). Additionally, one of the graphic artists for the franchise provided updates as early as May of 2018. Along with all of this, when Leigh Whannell was announced to be writing/directing ''The Invisible Man'', he inititally stated that he may use elements from Ed Solomon's original script, with the studio considering keeping Johnny Depp in the titular role. ''The Invisible Man'' is a part of the Dark Universe. Tabloids have commented on the franchise calling it "dead", but the studio's official stance is that they are taking a different approach with it.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::None of that cooberates it being in the Dark Universe. None of the sources from when Whannell joined had stated it’s in the same universe. That’s you assuming it is. You need reliable sources to bolster that claim and from my research nothing substantiated that. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 01:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
No, again {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} - the studio stated they are re-evaluating the franchise. The only thing that's changed is that instead of being a shared universe like MCU, it now consists of standalone feature films. The studio at no point has stated that the Dark Universe is dead. That's the fact. No assumptions there. Likewise the fact that they considered Johnny Depp up until a month ago is the fact that it's the same film, but a different writer/director. Projects evolve all the time. The graphic artist that met with heads of Universal regarding the franchise in May 2018 stated he is working on the designs for the monsters in the Dark Universe. This came as news following all the tabloids calling the franchise 'dead'. That's the facts. You cannot go off of opinion from tabloids. The studio is the only accurate source, here.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::You’re still supplying your own assumptions. The studio re-evaluating the Dark Universe is not confirmation this particular version is in any way tied to it. And you’ve just proven yourself wrong by saying only the studio is correct, which is absolutely right because the studio has not said it’s part of the Dark Universe. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 20:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} no, the studio has stated that it's the same film. At no point have they said it's not. The franchise as a whole has changed - but the title has not. That's the factual statements we have. We do not have a statement from the studio saying that the franchise is no more. Until that happens, the title of the films is ''STILL'' Dark Universe.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Per [https://variety.com/2019/film/news/universal-finds-director-invisible-man-studios-monster-legacy-1203117708/ Variety, January 2019]: “The move is part of a fresh strategy for Universal’s monsters properties, bringing creative directors with distinctive visions to the classic characters and '''moving on from the interconnected Dark Universe concept'''. “Throughout cinematic history, Universal’s classic monsters have been reinvented through the prism of each new filmmaker who brought these characters to life,” '''said Peter Cramer, Universal’s president of production'''. “'''We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them'''.”<br />
:At no point in that statement does Universal say the Dark Universe is still the plan, a matter of fact they say the exact opposite. So until you table something more reliable that disputes that, you’re in the wrong. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} The only thing that the President of Universal said was '''We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them..."'''. That's exactly what I've been stating this entire time. I will provide my sources for what I have stated here, once I'm home.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The quote utilises the word "individualised", which I don't get how it becomes interpreted to mean it's still in the Dark Universe. A google news search produces no reliable sources to say the Dark Universe isn't dead so I don't know what you could link that I haven't already seen. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} you will just have to wait. I have re-titled the sub-section so that you will stop removing the films from this article, friend. Cheers bub. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::And whatever you wish to link, please do so in this [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#The Invisible Man (2020 film) and the Dark Universe|this discussion]]. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 21:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::So you don't have time to supply sources but you do have time to reinstate your preferred version just tinkered with. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 22:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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It is poor form to talk about another editor on another discussion other than their talk page. I appreciate you however for pinging me at that discussion. The series of events of ''The Invisible Man'' are factually as follows:<br />
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* script developed by Ed Solomon<br />
* Johnny Depp cast in the role<br />
* Dark Universe stalls production on ''The Bride of Frankenstein'' due to script changes/revisions.<br />
* production crew for ''Bride'' continues to be hired<br />
* Jason Blum publically states he'd love to 'shepherd'/work on the future of the Dark Universe [https://screenrant.com/dark-universe-movies-jason-blum-blumhouse/][https://www.slashfilm.com/blumhouse-dark-universe/]<br />
* Jason Blum is hired to develop/produce/oversee ''Invisible Man'' w/President of Universal stating they will focus on individualized story-telling moving forward.<br />
* A new director/writer is hired<br />
* New cast is hired.<br />
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Nowhere has Universal announced the Dark Universe as 'dead', like you keep referencing.<br />
--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Those last three points completely undo your stance. As I’ve linked here and on the films article the Universal head has said it’s going to be individualized going forward, so how do you see that as confirmation it’s apart of the Dark Universe? Sure, no direct line saying verbatim “Dark Universe is dead” has been said (despite the Universal person basically implying it), but in the same vein no line of dialogue saying “The Invisible Man is apart of the Dark Universe” has been either, so stop saying it is. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 20:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: {{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} you repeat to tell me what to do... "stop saying it is" ...though there is no statements anywhere that Dark Universe is a dead franchise. We cannot assume it is without the studio stating as much. That's as basic and straightforward as you can get. I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::”I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise”. What are you talking about? When did I ever say that? I’m ensuring the article doesn’t saying anything about franchises, not trying to establish it as being part of a new one. It’s standalone, meaning it doesn’t belong to either a new franchise OR the Dark Universe. No sources have been published saying it is part of the DU that’s what I’ve been trying to get across this entire time. [[User:Rusted AutoParts|<span style="font-family:Rockwell; color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></span>]] 03:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Rusted AutoParts}} '''UPDATE''': Here is a recent interview that is noteworthy. ''iO9'' recently did a press interview Chris Morgan during the release of ''Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw''. In the interview the discussion turned towards '''Dark Universe'''. Morgan had originally been tapped as one of the co-runners/co-architects of the franchise, only to walk away after the studio decided to re-evaluate the situation. Repeatedly in the article, it states that there have been a couple of attempts at a shared universe scenario, only to have various iterations of angles to take with it. Morgan said this: "I don’t [have] regrets or anything like that ... I think it’s just, you know, I think it probably was trying to come together too quickly, I would say. And I think everyone got to take a breath and take a step back and take a look at it, and '''now just focus on maybe doing it a little bit slower''' ... I think Universal’s going about the monster films the right way, which is to really focus on taking a good script, good story, put it out there, if you’re going to build a universe build it from something strong like that. And I think they’re not so much worried about putting a universe out there as they are making great monster films, so '''I’m looking forward to seeing them'''". All these things again re-state what I have been saying this entire time. The studio hasn't dropped the Dark Universe film studio, nor have they dropped the title of the name they have given this film franchise. Morgan states it plain as day here. This interview was from July 30, 2019. That's as recent as it can get. No more need to debate anymore ([https://io9.gizmodo.com/chris-morgan-talks-dark-universe-mistakes-and-fast-and-1836858662 reference]).--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: '''''Second'' UPDATE''': Morgan has once again discussed the future 'plans/gameplan' for the Dark Universe. In an interview with ''Coming Soon'' he stated, "I think with the Dark Universe the lesson that became very clear was putting it all together too quickly as a universe. It doesn’t naturally want to happen that way. It wants to happen with one movie that’s great, and then you let that build love and support and grow it. And I think that’s the lesson that Universal and we have taken away. '''Now it’s kind of the way that those monster movies are rolling out.''' Build it with love and care." ([https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/1088911-chris-morgan-talks-fast-franchise-and-dark-universe#z3JY2PxLhxVvBTKR.99 reference]). The franchise is obviously not 'dead' as has been the debate here since your first message. I will also leave this at the discussion link you provided.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:44, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== October 2019 ==<br />
[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|link=]] Please stop adding [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|unsourced]] content, as you did on [[:Scream 3]]. This violates [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|Wikipedia's policy on verifiability]]. If you continue to do so, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:uw-unsourced3 --> [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Please '''stop adding unsourced production companies'''. Like any other content on Wikipedia, this needs need to properly sourced. Just because someone's logo shows up during the credits does not make them a production company – they could have almost any level involvement, from being an investor to being a distributor to being a production company. This is why we use secondary sources to determine the production companies. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|NinjaRobotPirate}} .... All I changed was the formatting of the production studio to exactly how it appears on-screen during the movie.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
: You added unsourced production companies based on your own [[WP:NOR|original research]]. I'm not sure how to make this clearer than I already have. You need to [[WP:CITE|cite a source]] for production companies. Companies whose logo flash on the screen ''might'' be production companies, but they might not be. Do you understand this so far? They might ''not'' be production companies just because their logo showed up on the screen or on the poster. This happens sometimes. They might be distributors, they might be investors, they might be contractually obligated to appear there because they brokered a deal – who knows. So don't copy the names of every company that appears and assume that they're all production companies. Cite a source that labels them as such. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{ping|NinjaRobotPirate}} I did ''not'' misunderstand you the first time. In response to your comments, I would state that you need to review the [[Wikipedia:Civility|WP:CIVIL]] guidelines. Namely: [[Wikipedia:Civility #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL - Avoiding Incivility; bullets 3, & 9]] where it states: <br />
{{font color|red|yellow|"3. ''Try not to get too intense.'' Passion can be misread as aggression, so take great care to avoid the appearance of being heavy-handed or bossy. Nobody likes to be bossed about by an editor who appears to believe that they are "superior"; nobody likes a bully.<br>9. ''Avoid appearing to ridicule another editor's comment.'' '''Even if you see the comment as ridiculous''', he or she very probably doesn't, and expressing ridicule is likely only to offend and antagonize, rather than helping."}} <br />
:: Again, you didn't lose me the first time. I simply disagree with you. All I did was changed the studio's type-font/formatting/stylization as it were on-screen. Cheers mate.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: No, that's not what you did. You added unsourced production companies. See [[Special:Diff/919258216]]. Do you see the part where two new production companies were added? Miramax and Dimensions Films were not there previously. Your edit added them. That is not changing the stylization; that is adding unsourced content. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 18:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)<br />
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If you're going to say "but there was a discussion", then do editors the courtesy of linking it, else your words have little meaning. Besides, all your edit did was include the raw colour-less film table in the article instead of transcluding it, and rearrange the prose. No change as to how the tables "should be formatted". -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 08:52, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I see you've been active since my talk page post. A reply would be appreciated. What is to stop the table you've listed existing at the films article and being transcluded to the parent article, as I had it? -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 12:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: I actually fell asleep in the middle of doing some things on here last night {{ping|Alex 21}}, so here I am responding now. There was a lengthy discussion among various editors that was ongoing for some time. What was decided among all of them, was the consensus to have the films in this layout that I reverted your edits to. Though it would be 'courteous' to link it in the comments section, as you pointed out - it can also be found in the talk page. ''Sorry'', but you can find it there. The formatting, I am referring to is without the colors, and the formatting of the text in the titles. The transclusion you are talking about is a discussion on a totally different article. Whether it has occurred there or not -I do not know. Arguably the articles should have similar layout/format across each of them. All I know sir, is that there was a large discussion regarding the formatting of the table here. I have set it back to what was agreed upon. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, the reason the colored versions were decided as fan-page territory as there is far too much going on in a film table with such an arrangement. It was discussed, once again at great length within the talk-page.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::That's nice that there was a discussion, but if ''you'' cite it as consensus, then ''you'' need to cite the actual discussion. I could say that there was a discussion to delete all Star Wars-related articles and there was a consensus for it, but I would have to actually link it, wouldn't I? Either way, my main issue wasn't with the layout, but the transclusion that you reverted, which applied to ''both'' articles, which I have restored. All the best. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 22:12, 16 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Alex 21}} that's not how this works. It's not my job to direct you to all discussions that have occurred. There have been numerous editors involved in the discussion. You can go looking for it, and instead of bossing me around -- review the guidelines for [[WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL #Avoiding Incivility, bullet #8: Avoid condescension]]. Review that, and then go look for the discussion yourself. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes it is. You state that something happened, you have to support it. I didn't say "all", I said "one". Burden's on you. Verify your statements. Catch up. ''Cheers.'' -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 03:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: And ''again'', [[WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility|WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility, bullet #8:]] {{font color|red|yellow|'''Avoid condescension'''}}. This is a guideline you need to revisit. Stop talking down to other editors, bub. Cheers.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: [[WP:BURDEN]]. Verify your statements. This is a ''policy'' you need to revisit, bud. "bub". Lol. By the way, there was a discussion banning the use of Disney in usernames. Take my word for it. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 05:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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@[[User:Alex 21|Alex 21 / AlexTheWhovian / Alex{{sup|TW}}]].... Now you're being petty. I'm not taking your [[WP:BAIT]]. Thanks anyway.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:28, 29 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:What are you talking about? Is that a reply to my last comment? That was almost two weeks ago... If you're talking about how the table was modified again, point me to where ''I'' made the edits. I'll wait. -- <span style="text-shadow:0 0 1px #8dd">''/[[User:Alex 21|<span style="color:#008">Alex</span>]]/[[User talk:Alex 21|<sub style="color:#008">21</sub>]]''</span> 21:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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::{{re|Darkknight2149}} Thank you for finally filing this. The sooner it starts, the sooner it can end. I have responded to your investigation on the noticeboards, to {{ping|Jack Sebastian}} in their comments below/hereafter, and will simply state - again, that I have not sought to fight anyone. I have attempted to preserve/update an article that I have interest/passion in. My only goal is to improve articles/pages here on WP. My comment regarding IP addresses, is simply due to the fact that I have no idea how these SPI's are resolved. My limited technological knowledge led me to assume that this is how it is resolved. I again restate, that I do not personally know {{ping|Popfox3}}, nor are they me. I stand by that and look forward to this investigation bringing this to light. I respect you as an editor, and hope that future contributions to various articles are collaborative. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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=== Regarding evidence ===<br />
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I am not taking a position in this discussion, as I was not involved since its inception and am aware of it only from afar. I will say that your editing behavior in DC Extended Universe has been - in the very kindest of descriptions - has been problematic. Continually challenging an emerged consensus is fractious and abrasive. While consensus can change, it does so over time as new referenced information emerges. It does ''not'' change simply because some of the people arguing a different point of view appear to leave the article.<br><br />
I think you may have misunderstood your role as editor in Wikipedia. While you may act single in the creation of articles and wiki-gnoming, you are here to work collaboratively with others. You have not been doing that, and I think you can feel that tension you have engendered between yourself and other contributors - totally the ''opposite'' feeling you should be getting. You have not yet learned to walk away from a disagreement; whether that is because its the internet and there are no RL, physical consequences for being disagreeable or whether yiu are just young and have tied up who you are with your viewpoints, I do not know. I just know the results. You are being argumentative in a website where people come here (without any sort of remuneration) to try and create something lovely. The ultimate question that can be asked of any user is whether they are a net positive or a net drag on the Project. I cannot answer that question for you, but the position of others is very, very clear. You need to take a very hard look at how you edit here, and decide whether this place makes you happy.<br><br />
The only thing I will say as to the relationship between you and Popfox3 is that if you are indeed the same person, you absolutely need to get out in front of this. Now. You are young, and the young make mistakes. If you cannot demonstrate the moral integrity to admit a mistake that you doubled-down on, your ejection from the Project will not be ''indefinite''; it will be ''permanent.'' Time is not your friend in this, so if you made a mistake, deal with it immediately. - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 00:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:: I appreciate your efforts in reaching out to me, {{ping|Jack Sebastian}}. I 'ping' you in this response, because perhaps I am not sure how "notifications" through Wikipedia work (i.e.: Should I be pinging you, or are you notified simply by responding? I'm not sure of the answer). I have not meant in any way to cause friction, nor to be combative. My efforts in posting new/updated sources at [[DC Extended Universe]] simply come from a passion for the topic, as well as interest in seeing the article become a better in quality. I acknowledged in the discussion - as you saw that the article -obviously- needs some work. The fact that it doesn't have an official name is indeed frustrating, among other things. There are a handful of editors who in general seem to disagree with me and now they are "coming out of the woodworks" so to speak. I anticipated this in requesting admin assistance. However, I stand by what I said regarding {{ping|Popfox3}}. I do not know thme personally, nor are they me. My statement regarding their IP address was my naive expectation that somehow IPs could be looked at and resolve the debate. In fact I have no idea how SockPuppetry claims are resolved. I don't know how to 'prove this' to anyone, but reaffirm that I have one account, one username, and one log-in. Thanks again for your time and for your help. I am not "young" as you have stated several times, but I am not at all tech-savvy.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== About the AN/I thread about you ==<br />
Specifically [[WP:AN/I#Incivility help|this one]]. Writing as an admin who is closing this discussion, I'm concerned that you were indefinitely blocked 3 and ahalf years ago for making a legal threat; as of this moment you could be blocked again, per policy. But IMHO, that seems a bit silly because you haven't made that kind of threat since. (While I must comment on your aggressive tone, after looking over your recent history I don't see any serious actions like that one since your return.) Why don't you make your life on Wikipedia simpler by retracting that statement? Doing that would also be a favor to me. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 20:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: I would "retract" the statement, though I don't know how that is done. It wasn't meant to be a 'threat' and in that old discussion I seem to remember several people stating that they didn't believe it was either. How do I go about doing what you have asked?--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, saying that you didn't expressing it as a legal threat works for me addresses that part of your statement. As for the other part, I have to admit that in my time here at Wikipedia I've not encountered a case exactly like this -- although I can't imagine it couldn't be done. Give me a bit of time to do a bit of research on this & get back to you. Or you could ask at [[WP:AN]]. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 04:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::: One matter I forgot to mention -- but my forgetfulness doesn't not mean it's not important -- is that you need to watch your current behavior. You need to try to be more civil in your interactions. I'm not going to lecture you about civility is better than being aggressive, but that civility helps you in persuading other people. Even if the other person is being a jerk. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 05:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Llywrch}} Thanks for the help. I can honestly say I've tried to be civil and collaborative in my edits. Everyone can always improve though, and so I'm trying even more so to be 'detached' from edits made.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Lars.Dormans}} Thanks for the recognition, and thanks for clarifying your auto-message that was posted here earlier. Appreciate it. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 02:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Final warning ==<br />
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DMH, I've told you many, many times that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DC_Extended_Universe&diff=963787126&oldid=963786625 sources like CBM] are unreliable and unacceptable for use on Wikipedia. Given that you continue to disregard these warnings, and have a long history of disruptive behavior around these types of articles, this is your final warning. If you do it again I'm reporting you to AN. [[User:TheJoebro64|<small style="color:red">JOE</small>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<span style="color:#D18719">64</span>]] 19:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:{{re|TheJoebro64}} /TJB64, you've "told" me "many, many times" various things. Not ''always'' does one of your "unreliable" classifications fit. If a media source has an exclusive, or reports on news when another media source does not - this makes them the sole reporter. You needn't place a warning/threat on my talk page. Simply edit the source and state why it is your belief that the source is not reliable. Be [[WP:PEACE|WP:Peaceful]] and collaborative. You needn't jump to the umpteenth degree. I will look for additional sources regarding the information I placed in the article today. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)<br />
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=<span class="template-ping">@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]]:</span> I am wondering which edits this was respective to? I have spent the last several hours editing a draft article I'm working on. Can you let me know what edits you are referring to? Thanks m8! [[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 06:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | decline = I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that <br />
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I warned you before about adding unsourced production companies to film articles. In {{diff2|978967150|this edit}}, you add unsourced production companies to the infobox without citing any sources. [[Template:Infobox film]] is pretty clear about this: "{{tq|When possible, this should be cited to reliable secondary sources that explicitly identify the production companies.}}" This is not some obscure underground film that has no database entries in reliable sources; we have a citation to the [[American Film Institute]] there already. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 06:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|NinjaRobotPirate}} I see what edits you are referring to. I will go in and add the sources that I used for the ''Cats & Dogs'' edits. I was going off of IMDb (and with each movie released I had thought that we can see that they are legitimate credits). I will however find additional second-party/reliable sources for each of them. I completely forgot, simply because I was working hard to finish a draft that I have been working on. I am sorry for the mis-step and for forgetting. My previous response was simply to clarify which of my edits you had blocked me for. I understand why it was done, and would like to correct the issue/find the sources.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:42, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, the IMDb is [[WP:UGC|user-generated content]], so it doesn't really matter what it says, and you shouldn't be copying its content here. If you want to find the production companies that worked on an American film, the [[AFI Catalog of Feature Films]] is a good place to start. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 01:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
I will start there and also look at other reliable sources. Isn't IMDb's mantra that the people behind creating a movie, post the information on the IMDb page?--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:34, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
: The IMDb is crowd-sourced just like Wikipedia. I have read interviews with filmmakers who said IMDb users were either making wild, incorrect guesses or making up hoaxes. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 22:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: I have never heard this, before! Do you have the articles? I'd be interested in reading them. I will definitely look into the AFI source you recommended as well. Cheers!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:21, 19 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Hi DisneyMetalhead, I've undid your revision of the this article. I posted discussions about it at [[WP:FILM]] and [[WP:HORROR]]. On several google searches I couldn't find much scholarly information on what qualified the Universal Classic Monsters as being part of a series. The only information I found specifically was that these characters were only really referred to this in the 1990s when a home video label was launched in order to make the series seem like a line of films. If you want to expand on it otherwise, please add sources, but otherwise, i've removed everything else that was unsourced and tried to split the films into their own articles. Even within that, some of them only seem loosely connected. (see [[Dracula (Universal film series)]] for an example of this. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 04:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} what you're referring to is a franchise. The Universal Classic Monsters is absolutely a franchise -though it may not have been called as such during the '20s-'50s in which the films were released. At this point in time they were "contemporary" horror/monster films. What makes them "Classic" is the fact that they are classic/retro films. The films share a continuity and should only include the films that Universal has placed under that franchise title/banner. The articles you have now been making for the sub-film series within the franchise/banner is fine. You shouldn't remove the information from the Universal Classic Monsters article, however. Recently, Universal has placed all other classic horror films within its library under a "Universal Classic Horror" banner as well. I will be working on that article in the future. Please restore the titles that fall under the Universal Classic Monsters moniker.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
::You see that's the problem, you (like others have, see the talk page on the article) have said "oh no no no it's this! film series worked differently in the past!") but have not been able to back this up with any sources outside personal interpretations. If Universal (and others) have connected the films, what belongs in the series? What doesn't? When Universal created their "Universal Classic Monsters" home video, they even included non-Universal properties they had the rights to, like ''Island of Lost Souls''. Does that belong in the series now? If so why? I've searched and searched to find a clear answer, and people have told me that "oh, Universal Horror is the same as Universal monsters") (if so, do non-monter movies get included? if so why? if not, why not?). These series are barely connected plotwise and even when creating the ''Dracula'' universal series, the few people I could find writing about the film as a series seriously, noted that only the first three films connect in any serious way, and even the third film was "iffy". Again, i've provided sources, everyone else who has called me up on it has yet to provide any research of their own to show how these connect and when the term was developed. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::{{re|Andrzejbanas}} I'm glad that someone is taking this bear head-on, as it is a really difficult mountain to climb. Where is your references for Universal including "Island of Lost Souls"? Universal Pictures (who has the rights to the franchise/banner/title) are the only ones that can tell you what and what does not fall into the Universal Classic Monsters franchise title. Whether the title existed back during the '20s-'50s or not, you're still missing the point. The franchise, is connected. It's now retrospectively often credited as one of the "first shared universes". As a franchise, it is a trademarked moniker. Further more, in your examples -- a film series also does not require itself to be directly connected to other films in its title.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, here's an ''[[Entertainment Weekly]] article [https://ew.com/article/1993/10/29/universal-studios-monsters-classic-collection/ from 1993 noting Island of Lost Souls] as n entry into the series. Also, I'm not saying it has to be connected, but I'm saying it's such a loose connection, I've only added what I've found. I know the series is often connected and referred to, but I can't find anyone clarifying what exactly should and should not be in it outside the articles I've found. And all of them really only discuss the series in terms of it being a home video line that was made to "make the films seem connected" (i.e: a nice way of saying to sell more product) You'll have to provide some sort of back-up here. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I can not tell you why in 1993 Paramount Pictures' film was printed with "The Universal Studios Monsters Classic Collection" classification on it (though something mentioning this in the pros of the article would suffice). This however happens with distribution rights, and Universal seems to have purchased the re-distribution rights at this point in time... we would have to confirm this obviously, but given the fact that it was re-released as such - this is a strong indicator of this fact. Secondly, clarifying within the article that various sources of the time mentioned that the films were re-released to portray the fact that the films are more connected than they are. Needless to say, we cannot overstep the studio's classification of what is in the franchise and what is not. We will find plenty sources clarifying what is in the Universal Classic Monsters. Give me time, m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: It's also worth noting that the VHS collection, is referred to (with a logo) as "Universal Studios Monsters". This seems to be a less-definitive classification, whereas the "Universal Classic Monsters" is more specific and limited in its films that are included.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Which again suggests that Universal is very back and forth on what these films are. But sure, I hear you. If that's the case the only time I really see the term used sepcifically this way (this is original research here, but we're just chatting, not editing an article yet ;) ) is when Univeral re-released the films on DVD to promote ''Van Helsing'' in 2004. They've had several variations on the term "Universal Classic Monsters" or such for various home video lines. And of course please no rush, i'm just saying good luck! :) It's a complicated thing and I've bene slowly going through horror films of the 1930s and 1940s and mannnn people do not like to discuss these series as a whole. Understandably so. As these films went on, their plots often contradict each other, characters who re-appear sometimes have their names changed, it's a real mess. I wouldn't be against trying to write up some article on "Universal Horror" as opposed to the monsters a whole, as that's far more loose and probably gives more definition to what the style of these films are opposed to trying to connect these stories in my head which is its own migraine. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 05:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} I would say that the previous variations of the term are more of a descriptive word. "Universal Studios Monsters" isn't a franchise title. The official naming of the slate of films to be '''Universal Classic Monsters''' happened at one point or another. A section describing how the studio had released earlier variations suffices, and even listing those films that are semi-random in the VHS collection (as you pointed out) would be constructive. I will further assist with this when I have a moment. Right this second I am working on various drafts for other articles. I've been adding details to the [[Dark Universe (franchise)|Dark Universe]] page and that, in itself is a beast of its own. I will do some searching for this article a little later tonight. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 01:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Why did you removed the games section in the cast? I get it isn't part of the films and television but other franchises do have games in this section if à character from the films appear. For example the Mad Max franchise.<br />
:: [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht]]; the reason I removed the video game from the cast, is because typically they are considered "other media". Video games are more 'unofficial' anyhow. Also, you need to sign your comments.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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User:DisneyMetalhead; I mean nah. Of course they're other media but they're still official. I mean Snyder worked on this title so... If you have no problems with it I'll add it again. And delete the chronology section. I have no idea from where does the person have the information that they have to create a section like this. And thanks. I didn't knew I have to sign my comments. I don't really know how to do it. So I'll try --Derjenigederzukunftseht [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:35, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} I would suggest taking its inclusion to the talk page... video games are not typically included in cast tables. Additinally, as you state that Znyder created the VR game - you will need a source stating this. Additionally that chronology table should be deleted. Otherwise a reliable source is also needed for it. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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@DisneyMetalhead: yeah I know that. But they're there if the story of it is canon to the films or actors or characters come back. I didn't said that Snyder created the game but he worked on it with his production company. It was in the trailer for it. And I don't know how to refrence YT videos. And I deleted the chronology table. Cheers and thanks for this little talk. Also a question. When will the draft be put for review? Have a nice day/evening/night! --Derjenigederzukunftseht [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 23:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} anything that is added to the article needs to be sourced. Share the link of the video that you're talking about, here. As-is without the source, the VR is just 'other media'. The article can be submitted for review once it is finished/has enough sources for all of these extra things that editors are adding.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 20:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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@DisneyMetalhead: thanks for answering :). Here is link to the trailer of the VR Expierence https : // you tu .be / rGoq3X4QeKQ (played with the link that it can be sent) and here is link to the website where is logo of Snyder's production company https://armyofthedeadvr.com/. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
* Ahhh, I see. This isn't even a video game, it's an event/experience. This should be listed in an entirely different section altogether.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:27, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I mean it kinda is a video game. But yeah it's an VR experience. What section should it be lestés to? The Stone Quarry Wikipedia page is listing it as a game. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 21:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: It could be listed as a game/experience under the "In other media" section. It'd probably be best done in a paragraph format where it details how it works/studios involved/etc.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 21:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: OK thanks mate. I'm not a good person to do that unfortunately. You clearly see how my English isn't that good. And yeah. I'm trying to do the best and to write the most correct things on that page. One more time thank you. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 22:16, 10 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::: {{re|Derjenigederzukenftseht}} I will hope back over to the draft when I have a minute and look at what has been added. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 08:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:::: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} thanks mate, cheers! And have a great day/evening/night!-- [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 13:44, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Update: {{re|Derjenigederzukenftseht}} I have submitted this draft article for review after some extensive cleanup and adding various references.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} I saw it. And it got made. That's amazing. And about those related short films. I have no idea how to find a relatable source when those are extras on Dawn of the Dead 2004 DVDs and Blu-rays. Those also are uploaded to YouTube by some guys but it's not official release. Only source I could find of them existing is Imdb and this forum. Ah and ''The Lost Tape Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is also in Zack Snyder's filmography Wikipedia page. I can try to dig deeper but have no idea if I find anything. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 15:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} Keep looking. There should be an official release or article about them somewhere. Try looking to see if there is an article about the home video release. Cheers m8! --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 00:30, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} I'll do it mate! Thanks. Cheers [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::{{re|DisneyMetalhead}} https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/48878/dawn_dead_ce.html as of now this review is the only thing that I found. And They doesn't talk about the short films at all just listed them with other extras and ''The Lost Tape:Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is on the extras called ''Andy's Lost Tape'' for short. [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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::::: In this review those shorts are listed and shortly described. ''The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed'' is here still shortened to ''Andy's Lost Tape'' https://weliveentertainment.com/we-live-entertainment/bluray-digital-dvd-news/dawn-dead-2004-scream-factory-blu-ray-review/<br />
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Do you think this could be added as a reference? [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 02:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Derjenigederzukunftseht}} those are fine resources as they are first-hand reviews of the home video release. The only one of the 3 that you have been adding that is actually a 'short film' however is ''Andy’s Lost Tape''. If you read the review on the [https://weliveentertainment.com/we-live-entertainment/bluray-digital-dvd-news/dawn-dead-2004-scream-factory-blu-ray-review/] source, the other two ones are "behind the scenes featurettes" which don't really belong on this page. Additionally, as ''Dawn of the Dead'' is not in this continuity, the only reason it is listed on this page under "related film" is because this franchise is a "spiritual sequel" to ''Dawn''. Anything about this one short featurette film probably shouldn't be listed in its own section. We may need a new discussion at the [[Talk:Army of the Dead (franchise)]] article to see how to best include that one small bonus feature. You'll want to start a conversation there and pin me, as well as all other recent contributors. I would, but I'm constantly working on multiple drafts between my personal life events. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: {{re|DisneyMetalhead}} well not exactly. I watched all 3 on my Blu-ray. And Special Report: Zombie Invasion chronicles the first 26 hours of the Zombie pandemic. And in it are some of the news reports saw on screen in the film. Like the one with Tom Savini. And the Undead and Loving it: A Mockumentary is a 5 minutes long mockumentary on how it was to work with real zombies on the set. That they were slower and that kind of stuff. But the rest of the specials are behind the scenes. And yeah those are 2 separate universes but I thought that it sh9be listed as it's connected with Dawn. And thank you :). I'll start the discussion on the talk page and I'll pin you there,but not today. I'm going to sleep now here's 12am now. Again thanks and I get it have fun doing those drafts and have a great day/night/evening. Cheers mate! :) [[User:Derjenigederzukunftseht|Derjenigederzukunftseht]] ([[User talk:Derjenigederzukunftseht|talk]]) 22:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. Two things. Just curious where you are getting these "official" and "real title" information from when you've been editing the some of the older Universal titles. The current article on the Universal Classic Monsters section sets right out that it's a home video line. Nothing has been added otherwise that suggests anything else. So why did you add those other titles? [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 14:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} as has been stated ad nauseam on talk page... perceptions is not at all what determines how an article should be made. The purpose of this article is to include all of the Universal Classic Monsters and the previous packagings/collections. The official titles that I adjusted was ''The Bride of Frankenstein''. As you can see on the poster, this is indeed the official title. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah but you had no source on "official titles" where did the information come from? Half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 23:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Andrzejbanas}} frankly, what are you talking about? Please provide specifics. I don't have any clue what you man by "half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said". What movies are you referring to with that declarative statement, m8? Each of the titles I adjusted... specifically ''The Bride of Frankenstein'', I got the title from the film poster.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::: Sure. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Black_Cat_(1934_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1033567905&diffmode=source here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dracula_(1931_Spanish-language_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1033567451&diffmode=source here] just to name a few. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 08:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{re|Andrzejbanas}} I see. Those are indeed the official titles. What do I have to explain about this? Look at the posters for the Edgar Allen Poe films, and then look up the official title of the Spanish Language ''Dracula''.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
: I've watched the Spanish Dracula from the Universal blu-ray. There is no accent. And the current poster has no accent. and it's not referred to the title with the accent. Same for the other other films when I recently did research. I'd try to get some more attention from [[WP:FILM]] to see what others say here. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: Resume the conversation on the talk page. The film has an accent mark because it is in Spanish. It is credited as such on several film sites as well.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::You seem to be conflating film sites and posters with the actual films themselves. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
{{re|Attic Salt}} please take this discussion back to the talk page as previously stated. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:The issue is not the articles, for which I might use the article talk pages, but you. You are making changes to article about movies that are inconsistent with the movies. Please stop this, and please revert your mistakes. Thank you. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:39, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Attic Salt}} there is a discussion there, which is why I have requested that you take your statements/opinions there. I have not made any mistakes in listing the films with their official titles per the posters and film sites as well. If you feel this is an error, once again take this to the film articles' pages where there are discussions ongoing. Cheers again m8s!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 23:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::Excuse me, but you need to participate in the discussion at [[Bride of Frankenstein]]. You've dropped out of that discussion while your mistakes are being discussed there. [[User:Attic Salt|Attic Salt]] ([[User talk:Attic Salt|talk]]) 23:57, 20 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{outdent}} ''All's Well That Ends Well'' (cit.) "reverting recent BOLD, but under-discussed move" {{ping|Netoholic}} said {{(:}} --[[User:Kasper2006|Kasper2006]] ([[User talk:Kasper2006|talk]]) 06:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the update, and for being collaborative. Cheers m8s!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 14:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, just a heads-up that you should check for existing move requests before changing page names. You moved [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker)]] to [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1951)]], but a previous [[Talk:Thomas Lennon (filmmaker)#Requested move 5 August 2017|RM]] in 2017 was found to be against moving the article to that title. As for your move of [[Thomas Lennon]] to [[Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1970)]], there was a previous RM that [[Talk:Thomas Lennon#Requested move 28 April 2016|resulted]] in that article's current undisambiguated title. As a result, these pages shouldn't be moved without a new discussion. [[User:Nohomersryan|Nohomersryan]] ([[User talk:Nohomersryan|talk]]) 03:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
: The moves were made on the basis of [[WP:BOLD|being bold]]. The current status of various articles with the same name is confusing. I will discuss further, on their talk pages. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for responding. I don't object to boldness if no one has touched the pages. After all, I moved [[Thomas Lennon (screenwriter)]] to [[Thomas Lennon (screenwriter, born 1896)]] way back when. But shuffling an existing [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] setup is usually controversial and requires an rm, especially if one has already happened, going against one can devolve into a semi-wheelwar. [[User:Nohomersryan|Nohomersryan]] ([[User talk:Nohomersryan|talk]]) 03:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::: I noticed you had made the move on one of the articles. I didn't see it being controversial as it is only intended to add clarity and simplify the overly-complex nature of the disambiguation page. I will take to the talk articles. --[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 03:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:* I definitely did NOT copy and paste any article draft, to create my own. Looking over what you have stated -- it seems that the previous draft (that I was completely unaware of) used the same sources as I did, and given the fact that the sources alone are few and lacking in detail -- the key points of the source were used by the both of us. I apologize for the mistake, but I genuinely didn't see/know there was another draft already in development.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::PS - had I known there was a draft, I would have simply added to it and then moved it to the mainspace. I have plenty of experience adding to articles and/or moving them to the mainspace. Again, I apologize that I didn't see the previous draft. I had only seen the "film adaptation" details on the books/novel pages.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 19:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Help making page for [[Draft:Machiko Noguchi]]? [[User:Molarium|Molarium]] ([[User talk:Molarium|talk]]) 11:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Molarium}} I have zero knowlegdge of this topic, and after looking at the article it appears as though this would be a page about a fictional character(?). Generally I don't see the value in articles about characters, and would argue that the character should be discussed on the page that deals with the comic book series, but you're going to need a lot of reliable sources as well.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 22:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:: Awesome, thanks m8! That'll be nice to have completed. I have put the Db-move request there as suggested. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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I have asked for the [[DC Universe (franchise)]] page to be deleted, however it seems my proposal will fail. If that happens I would start a discussion to seek consensus on whether to separate the Gunn and Safran's projects from the DCEU article, because having them in both articles will be redundant. However I would suggest including the upcoming 4 films in some way. Just a heads up so there isn't another dispute. [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 11:51, 1 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Other users have already removed Gunn and Safran's projects and it seems without any discussion, which is problematic. Regardless I have no energy left for arguing with more people so I'm not going to try to argue with them. User consensus can decide whatever it wants. Anyway I hope you have a good day. Cheers! [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 01:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:: I agree that it was premature for editors to move things, as we discussed last night. I have taken to the talk page with an update from Gunn where he states that he is ''not'' rebooting the DCEU, and that ''The Flash'' doesn't reset everything. I will try to go in and re-add those projects with that update from Gunn. The DC Universe (franchise) article has no grounds at this point. Hope to continue working on the article with you and all the other editors in peace and collaboration. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 04:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::: Don't try to add the projects back on your own for right now. I would have done it myself, but it's clear some users are insistent on separating the articles. Let's discuss first and have consensus. Or this can turn into a full-scale edit war. [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 04:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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I agree with that. I [[WP:BOLD]]ly reverted the edits and have since taken to each of the discussions with Gunn's new comment/clarification. You'll see my comments at each of those talk page discussions.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Cyborg in Flash ==<br />
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Hello. We don't ever add mentions of characters to "Cast". Cast means "the actors in a film, play, or show". [[User:Roman Reigns Fanboy|Roman Reigns Fanboy]] ([[User talk:Roman Reigns Fanboy|talk]]) 17:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Roman Reigns Fanboy}} From what I had seen he features in a still photograph. I'll have to find a better source. Cheers m8!--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 17:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)<br />
::: If you have seen the movie, you can see the character in a still image playing football (helmet obscuring the stand-in actor, as Ray Fisher did not reprise the role). Still searching for a reliable ref for this one.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 13:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==Draft articles==<br />
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I see that you have a number of draft articles that will be deleted in a few hours. They are about film franchises. I looked on your user talk page to see if there were messages from Firefly Bot but these drafts are several years old at this point so I guess you got the 5 month notices in past years. So, I don't know if you are keeping your own record of your draft articles that you have been working on. You can find the August 6th list of expiring drafts at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SDZeroBot/G13_soon&direction=next&oldid=1167805842 this page], so maybe if you scan the list, you can identify your drafts in case you want to keep them. If they are already deleted, you can request their restoration at [[WP:REFUND]]. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 21:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: {{re|Liz}} Is it common for the articles being proposed for deletion to not be notified the way that some of these weren't? I am working on getting these drafts reinstated. I do keep a list of the ones I am working on, but had some unexpected personal events come up that took up my time. Thanks for notifying me.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 15:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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That's a lot. I know not all, perhaps most, won't be ready to be reviewed to be an article any time soon, as they are about projects that aren't even started. Are you sure you want them all restored? Do you have updates ready for all of them? - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 16:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
::{{re|UtherSRG}} There are updates, and additional information that I need to add to each of them. They are all works-in-progress currently.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 16:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. Looks like another admin has performed the restores. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 16:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
::::Except for the two typos in your requests. :) You fixed one, and I fixed the other. I've restored the two additional articles. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 17:00, 8 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I Wikilinked the three films to the new series page. I think there are other places where Wikilinks could be added but will save that for you. Cheers!--[[User:CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) 21:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Your LDS-related page moves are controversial, please discuss them ==<br />
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You moved a number of pages from the ''Latter Day Saints'' spelling to ''Latter-day Saints''. However there is a long-standing convention at Wikipedia that the first spelling is for topic related to the [[Latter Day Saint movement]] as a whole, and the second spelling to the [[The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]].<br />
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This is too uncontroversial to be done without discussion, especially after you have been reverted once.<br />
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If your reasons are good, you will most probably succeed in changing the name of these pages. However, you should not engage in [[WP:edit warring|edit warring]], especially do not start a [[Wikipedia:Page-move war|page-move war]].<br />
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Please discuss at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement]] and/or [[Talk:Latter Day Saint movement]]. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 18:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
:[[User:Place Clichy]] I did not think that the moves would be controversial. I have simply been trying to get all the articles fixed (as there are many of them). While there are sects of churches that go by "Latter Day Saints", the articles that I had changed seemed to be related to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints instead. I was simply trying to be accurate, and helpful. I will follow your suggestions.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:08, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
:: I have no doubt that you want to be helpful. However, many pages start with a notice like this one on {{oldid2|1183499208|Temple (Latter Day Saints)}}: <br />
:: {{about|temples in the [[Latter Day Saint movement]]|temples only in [[the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]]|Temple (LDS Church)}}<br />
:: There's even a hidden commentary visible when you edit the page: <code><nowiki><!-- Note to editors, Latter-day Saint refers specifically to the largest, Utah-based denomination. When referring to history shared amongst other denominations use Latter Day Saint --></nowiki></code>.<br />
:: Discussion is now open at {{section link|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement|Latter Day Saints or Latter-day Saints?}}. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 18:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
::: I didn't realize the commentary notes, as I thought it had been an oversight in editing (as some pages tend to have). I apologize, and appreciate you tagging me in the discussion.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 18:37, 4 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
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A title is a title. The standards of upper and lower cases are not affected by the font used in the artwork for a title. For the same reason the "t" in "to" isn't uppercase as shown on the TV special's title page, the "i" in "Is" is uppercase. [[MOS:TITLECAPS]] [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 16:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I have moved the page to its correct title, with the parenthetical still being {{tqq|(TV special)}}, but the capitalized {{tqq|Is}} per [[MOS:TITLECAPS]], which is what dictates capitalization in titles, not stylizations in marketing pieces such as posters. —''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) 18:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Very good. It seems the same case alteration has been made to ''[[The Easter Bunny is Comin' to Town|The Easter Bunny Is Comin' to Town]]''. [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 18:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::Fixed as well. —''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) 19:47, 13 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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...{{re|Milladrive}} "a title is a title" and yet the copyright logo appears on the official logo creens of these TV specials. My main reason for moving the article title was the fact that it is a television special and not a film. Thank you {{re|Facu-el Millo}} for moving the article to this space.--[[User:DisneyMetalhead|DisneyMetalhead]] ([[User talk:DisneyMetalhead#top|talk]]) 05:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I do agree that changing it to "TV special" was the right thing to do. It's still technically a film (nearly all videos are), but calling it a TV special is more precise. [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 17:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Hi DisneyMetalhead, I am trying to update the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. I see that you contributed to the article in the past, and I'm hoping you will be interested in helping to update the page. Would you please consider implementing the edit request I posted at [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates]]? Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Curb_Safe_Charmer&diff=1230754924User talk:Curb Safe Charmer2024-06-24T14:37:17Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment */ new section</p>
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I am seeing that you're not supporting me to post a certain article on wiki. Can I know the reason please, I think "Hussain Saddam" have that much popularity to be on Wikipedia.<br />
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Thanks [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 09:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Siddiqee Shrestha}} I have already provided reasons, both at the top of [[Draft:Hussain Saddam]] and on [[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|your user talk page]], so it is a concern that you've clearly not read that feedback.<br />
:The Wikipedia community has established criteria for which people should have articles about them in the encyclopedia and which should not. See [[WP:NBIO]] and [[WP:NPOL]] to understand that it is not about 'popularity'. Before being re-reviewed, your draft would need to show through the references that his life has been written about ''in depth'' by multiple, reliable, independent publications. At the moment, several of the references you've used are dead links. You'll also need to ensure that the article is written neutrally, which it isn't at the moment. See [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 09:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Okay got it. I am going to update the references soon. [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 10:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I have added more references, and cleared dead references. [[User:Siddiqee Shrestha|Siddiqee Shrestha]] ([[User talk:Siddiqee Shrestha|talk]]) 20:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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I read your comment on [[Draft:Lina Hamdan]]. I accessed all my references in Canada, so I didn't expect the links not to work somewhere else in the West (maybe all .sy websites are blocked? No clue.) I digress -- how do I make sure the links are accessible? Wayback machine doesn't have any captures of the websites. Should I [try to] archive them on there? Link them by PDF? <br />
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I'm relatively new to this so I really appreciate your feedback! <br />
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[[User:Leo.S.Hussain|Leo.S.Hussain]] ([[User talk:Leo.S.Hussain|talk]]) 17:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Leo.S.Hussain}} it seems it was a temporary problem. I have reviewed the sources now, and have accepted the draft. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 07:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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I've moved the empty draft to a different title, and it is still tagged for deletion. I've moved the sandbox draft into draft space. The version that is now in draft space is still not ready for article space, but at least is now where the reviewers look at it, in draft space. '[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hi this is Ruquiya. I cannot understand the specific reason for decline. Read more like an advertisement or neutral point of view, i think my article about Aarti BR Singh is not at all an advertisement. Its her life journey. I have given many references which i believe are independent. [[User:Ruquiya Jabeen|Ruquiya Jabeen]] ([[User talk:Ruquiya Jabeen|talk]]) 08:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{reply|Ruquiya Jabeen}} examples of promotional langugage: "bold personality", "incredibly autonomous", "two lovely children", "most ambitious girl", "effectively raising her children", "sacrificing her entire career". While you have added references, they are not inline, so it is impossible to see which statements can be verified by which references. See [[Help:Footnotes]] and [[Help:Referencing for beginners with citation templates]]. [[User:Curb Safe Charmer|Curb Safe Charmer]] ([[User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#top|talk]]) 11:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for detail description. Allow me sometime to check them. [[User:Ruquiya Jabeen|Ruquiya Jabeen]] ([[User talk:Ruquiya Jabeen|talk]]) 07:44, 21 June 2024 (UTC)<br />
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The edit I had made is factually correct, but I will take your advice and search for sources. Also I think replying here, according to me, is more comfortable in my case than to reply on yours. <br />
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Also, to sign your posts, use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. :) [[User:Trivialist|Trivialist]] ([[User talk:Trivialist|talk]]) 11:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Okay, I can understand what you are saying here,but I will try to find other reliable sources for my edit. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 12:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Reliable sources ==<br />
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Please read through [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources]] before you add any more content to Wikipedia. You can't just cite random websites – they must fulfill the our criteria for a reliable source. The IMDb is even listed on that page as an example of an unreliable source. If you have trouble identifying reliable sources, please see [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources]] for some links to discussions, and you can ask at [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard]] or [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film]]. WikiProject Film also has a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Resources|list of sources]]. We have a lot of advice and essays on these topics, but you'll have to do some reading. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Okay, I will try to use reliable sources,but I never knew that IMDb is an unreliable source :( . [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 07:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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P. S.: Right now I am unable to find any reliable sources on distributors so, could you please suggest some websites that can help? Please reply ASAP :) . [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 07:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
: [[Box Office Mojo]] would probably be the most popular choice. [[The Numbers (website)|The Numbers]] sometimes has data for films missing from Box Office Mojo. Any trade magazine would also work, such as ''[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]]'', ''[[The Hollywood Reporter]]'', and ''[[Screen Daily]]''. You could also try ''[[TheWrap]]'', ''[[Deadline.com]]'', etc. Individual countries often have film archives that you can check, such as the [[AFI Catalog of Feature Films]] and [[British Film Institute]]. For Europe, there's also [[Lumiere (database)|Lumiere]]. In Canada, there's [[Library and Archives Canada]]. Check the links I gave you above. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]])<br />
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Box Office Mojo was actually one of the sources I was coincidentally thinking of. Anyways thanks for clearing my query; I will surely use the mentioned sources. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 12:21, 20 December 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Mike Zoss Productions==<br />
Just to let you know I appreciate the thanks, and did what I should have done in the first place and checked for reliable sources. They exist. So I reverted to back your version and added one. Thanks in turn. [[User:Barte|Barte]] ([[User talk:Barte|talk]]) 07:23, 3 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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By the way, additional thanks to you too for helping :) [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 07:26, 3 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== 20th Century Studios movies ==<br />
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Where did you get that claim that WDSMP distributed Breakthrough and Dark Phoenix? There's no text at the end of the credits other than the TCF logo, and your edits weren't even sourced. [[User:LTPHarry|Luigitehplumber]] ([[User talk:LTPHarry|talk]]) 17:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, when I saw these in theatres, the text "Distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures" had appeared at the end. But it somewhat does not appear in later films and is also not mentioned on Box Office Mojo. I will try to find some valid sources and add it again if I find sources as references. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 15:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Production companies ==<br />
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When adding production companies, the source cited should identify them explicitly as production companies. Not "presented in association with", not "with the participation of", not anything else. Just "production company". [[template:infobox film]] is pretty clear about this. That means that if BFI doesn't explicitly list the company as a production company, that company should not be added. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 13:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== January 2021 ==<br />
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I have repeatedly explained this to you. If a company is not explicitly credited as a "production company", you can't add it to the article as such. The next time I see you do this, I'm not going to warn you; I'm going to block you. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 04:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Distributor ==<br />
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Per [[Template:Infobox film/doc]], if there's a lot of distributors then only one is needed in the infobox, that is, the one where the film is produced. If there's just some, e.g. 2 or 4, then it's fine to include them all, but if it's more than 5 then only one is needed. That's why I've manually undid your edits on [[Jojo Rabbit]]. '''[[User:Gerald Waldo Luis|<span style="background:#4C516D; color:white; padding:2px;">Gerald</span>]][[User talk:Gerald Waldo Luis|<span style="background:#B9CFF0; color:black; padding:2px;">WL</span>]]''' 08:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I can understand what you are trying to say here, but also, as per [[WP:FILMDIST]], a film's domestic and international distributors can be mentioned. However it does not state so for films made by more than one country, so it's difficult to really say whether that edit should stay on the page or not. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 08:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== How to revert with twinkle ==<br />
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If you want to revert edits at one time, read [[Wikipedia:Twinkle#Quick info]], so That you won't spam edits. Also, if you don't know how to revert with Twinkle in Mobile view, either ask the Teahouse or go to desktop view and press restore edit. [[User:LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:green">LooneyTraceYT</span>]] [[User talk:LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:#A4C639">comment</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:green">treats</span>]] 21:38, 24 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I just got the word BTW that You can't edit with Twinkle in Mobile View, so use the desktop view for now. [[User:LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:green">LooneyTraceYT</span>]] [[User talk:LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:#A4C639">comment</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LooneyTraceYT|<span style="color:green">treats</span>]] 23:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I took your advice and started using Twinkle, and it works surprisingly well. I would like to thank you for your really useful suggestion, I will continue using Twinkle in the future as well. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|talk]]) 03:26, 26 April 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== The War with Grandpa ==<br />
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Sorry about the edit on ''[[The War with Grandpa]]'', Universal actually distributed that film internationally but I understand your revert on it, though. --[[User:TheRavineStudios|TheRavineStudios]] ([[User talk:TheRavineStudios|talk]]) 09:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I am trying to find a source saying Universal was involved with the film, so far I haven't found any, but I'll continue searching for a source. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] ([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor#top|talk]]) 11:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Ok dude, gotcha. --[[User:TheRavineStudios|TheRavineStudios]] ([[User talk:TheRavineStudios|talk]]) 13:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Does this work? It mentions Universal here, so... <br />
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Link: https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/war-grandpa [[User:TheRavineStudios|TheRavineStudios]] ([[User talk:TheRavineStudios|talk]]) 16:58, 17 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, this does mention Universal, but I am still unsure whether this is a reliable source so I'll see if this is a reliable source as soon as possible. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 04:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you. [[User:TheRavineStudios|TheRavineStudios]] ([[User talk:TheRavineStudios|talk]]) 07:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I checked Box Office Mojo and it shows that distributors vary in territories worldwide, so that makes it a bit uncertain whether Universal was involved with this film in most territories or not. But I am still researching about this so don't you worry. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 07:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding Pleasureme23. ==<br />
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He's been blocked for a month now, so there's no need to worry about [[PAW Patrol: The Movie]] that much anymore. Signed, [[User:DinosaurTrexXX33|<span style="background-color: red; color: darkgreen">Dinosaur</span>]] [[Stoked (TV series)|<span style="background-color: blue; color: yellowgreen">TrexXX33</span>]] [[User talk:DinosaurTrexXX33|(chat?)]] 21:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, that's pretty great. Now I guess I don't have to revert that guy's edits again and again. That's a relief. Thanks for telling me so. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 03:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
:: I reported him, but if you want to report somebody else, go to [[Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism|this link]]. Signed, [[User:DinosaurTrexXX33|<span style="background-color: red; color: darkgreen">Dinosaur</span>]] [[Stoked (TV series)|<span style="background-color: blue; color: yellowgreen">TrexXX33</span>]] [[User talk:DinosaurTrexXX33|(chat?)]] 11:57, 25 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Unsourced information about distributors ==<br />
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Please don't add details not found in the cited source, such as in {{diff2|1030516269|this edit}}. If you've got a source for this stuff, please cite it. You seem to be very keen on adding every company that you think has worked on a film. That is commendable enthusiasm and thoroughness. However, Wikipedia is based on what ''reliable sources'' say, not [[WP:NOR|our own research]]. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 05:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I will take your advice and stop doing so, but what about other editors, including LTPHarry, who do so? [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 05:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
: Where does [https://variety.com/2002/film/reviews/they-1200544599/ this source] say that Focus Features and Dimension are production companies for [[They (2002 film)]]? [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 02:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
::Well it does mention the companies are involved with the film, see the end of the article. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 02:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
::: But where does it say that they are production companies? Have I not explained this well enough yet? It '''doesn't matter''' if they were "involved" in some way. They have to be explicitly labeled as production companies to be listed in the "production company" parameter of the infobox. The "presented by"/"presentation of" credit is usually a distributor. The reason why [[template:infobox film]] says to include a citation where the production company is explicitly labeled is because people engage in this kind of guesswork – "I saw their logo/name listed somewhere, and I think they're probably a production company". The next time I see you add poorly sourced production/distribution company, I'm just going to block you. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 03:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== StudioCanal ==<br />
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Well. Next time I will try to put reliable sources for any articles of Wikipedia. But the problem about it is:<br />
What can be done to list and detail the movies that weren't produced or made by StudioCanal? I'm talking about movies made during the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. Do I have to create a new section about that in the StudioCanal article or what? Because the truth is these films are owned by StudioCanal.<br />
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1. Movies from the defuncted DEG (De Laurentiis Entertainment Group) formerly named AVCO Embassy Pictures:<br />
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2. Movies from the defuncted EMI Films, the defuncted subsidiary of Thorn EMI:<br />
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3. Movies from the defuncted Carolco Pictures formerly named Anabasis Investments<br />
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In the back of the DVD and Blu-Ray covers of those movies. As well as going to the official website of StudioCanal.<br />
Here I send you the Blu-Ray.com website links to check the back of some DVD and Blu-Ray covers of these mentioned movies that are owned by StudioCanal and it appears the Copyright symbol along the word StudioCanal/Canal+, that means StudioCanal is the real owner of these mentioned movies, and also the IMDB links to check the company credit of these mentioned movies owned by Studiocanal to check the StudioCanal name in the section all world wide, that it means distribution and ownership of Studiocanal; and finally, the link of StudioCanal website description of these mentioned movies <br />
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1. The Graduate:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Graduate-Blu-ray/323/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Graduate-Blu-ray/90213/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/the-graduate-1967/<br />
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2. The Deer Hunter:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Deer-Hunter-Blu-ray/206572/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Deer-Hunter-4K-Blu-ray/206573/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/the-deer-hunter-1978/<br />
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3. The Fog 1980 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/The-Fog-DVD/1073/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Fog-Blu-ray/61747/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/the-fog-1980/<br />
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4. Escape From New York:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Escape-from-New-York-DVD/21606/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Escape-from-New-York-Blu-ray/109611/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Escape-from-New-York-Blu-ray/12117/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/escape-from-new-york-1981/<br />
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5. The Howling 1981 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/The-Howling-DVD/130843/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Howling-Blu-ray/25056/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/the-howling-1981/<br />
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6. First Blood:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/First-Blood-DVD/1881/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/First-Blood-Blu-ray/61/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/First-Blood-4K-Blu-ray/214055/<br />
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083944/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/first-blood-1982/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rambo-First-Blood-Part-II-Blu-ray/735/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rambo-First-Blood-Part-II-4K-Blu-ray/214054/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/rambo-first-blood-part-ii-1985/<br />
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8. Rawl Deal 1986 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Raw-Deal-Blu-ray/11210/<br />
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091828/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/raw-deal-1986/<br />
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9. Highlander 1986 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Highlander-Blu-ray/14653/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Highlander-Blu-ray/141901/<br />
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/companycredits<br />
https://www.studiocanal.com/title/highlander-1986/<br />
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10. Manhunter 1986 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Manhunter-DVD/30811/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Manhunter-Blu-ray/17595/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/manhunter-1986/<br />
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11. Angel Heart:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Angel-Heart-Blu-ray/6864/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/angel-heart-1987/<br />
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12. Evil Dead II:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Evil-Dead-II-DVD/145507/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Evil-Dead-2-Blu-ray/27439/<br />
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092991/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/evil-dead-ii-1987/<br />
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13. Red Heat 1988 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Red-Heat-DVD/6311/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Heat-Blu-ray/6760/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Heat-4K-Blu-ray/249618/<br />
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095963/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/evil-dead-ii-1987/<br />
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14. Rambo III:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Rambo-III-DVD/18895/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rambo-III-Blu-ray/736/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rambo-III-4K-Blu-ray/214053/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/rambo-iii-1988/<br />
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15. Lock Up film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Lock-Up-Blu-ray/11357/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/lock-up-1989/<br />
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16. Total Recall 1990 film:<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Total-Recall-DVD/1737/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Total-Recall-Blu-ray/85/<br />
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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Total-Recall-4K-Blu-ray/257346/<br />
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https://www.studiocanal.com/title/total-recall-1990/<br />
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That’s all i have to say. [[User:Ivo Reátegui|Ivo Reátegui]] ([[User talk:Ivo Reátegui|talk]]) 19:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, StudioCanal is the owner of these films, but the main reason why I reverted your edits was because-<br />
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:1. StudioCanal has a section named "Selected films produced by StudioCanal or '''associated companies'''", where you made some edits. The films mentioned were made by neither StudioCanal nor any associated company (StudioCanal owns only the films given or the library of a particular company, not the companies which produced/distributed a film now owned by StudioCanal).<br />
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:2. Due to the same reason, these films cannot go in the "List of StudioCanal films" page as well.<br />
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:I hope you understand now why I reverted your edits. Also, sorry for having responded to your message a little late, not everyone has spare time to reply to messages. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 08:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Vice (2018) film ==<br />
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I fixed the missing references that I made on Vice (2018) on a genre change that you deleted a couple of days ago and re-added the original genre edit. I would like to thank you for removing the change in the first place, I always like feedback and since as you saw, I often forget references so the more times people tell me about missing references in my edits, the better I become as an editor. [[User:NSNW|NSNW]] ([[User talk:NSNW|talk]]) 22:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
* I saw the references added for the genres, so I'll let them be for now. Also, people forget things at times, even I do, so it's fine, happens. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 03:00, 3 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
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You appear to be inserting <nowiki>[[Affirm Films#Pure Flix|Pure Flix Entertainment]]</nowiki> into the "distributor" field of a number of films. If you follow that link, you'll find that Affirm Films's Pure Flix is a video-on-demand service, not a film distribution company, and that they only gained even that recently, so it was not there to distribute for the listed films. Please undo your edits and restore the link to [[Pure Flix Entertainment]]. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 05:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
*I thought Affirm Films acquired the streaming service and the film studio as well. Now that my confusion has been cleared, I will undo my edits. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 05:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hey there, I just want to give this out. On the page of [[Dark Castle Entertainment]], it says that they were involved with [[Dragon Eyes]] and [[Stash House]], and even says so on the respective articles, however they do not appear on the posters, and I believe that is completely unsourced info. [[User:TheRavineStudios|TheRavineStudios]] ([[User talk:TheRavineStudios|talk]]) 08:54, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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*I am uncertain about this. Even the articles for the aforementioned films state Dark Castle as a production company, and Joel Silver seems to have produced the films as well. I'll tally with some sources and get back to you. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 09:14, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Seems it's half true. [https://www.screendaily.com/distribution/deals-round-up-dark-castle-after-dark-prepare-action-slate/5040073.article This article on Screen Daily] says Dark Castle and After Dark had a home video deal which included Dragon Eyes and Stash House. But, neither Dark Castle nor Silver Pictures made the films (as a production company), as I have found out from Variety, so I am thinking of removing info about that from the articles for the aforementioned films. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 09:23, 16 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hi! In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Last_Days_on_Mars&diff=next&oldid=1047221538 this edit] you inserted a ref BOM, seemingly without defining it, which gives a cite error. See the reference section for the error. I don't know much about this film and intent of your edit, so I can't fix it myself. But perhaps two sources would be already enough? Cheers, --[[User:Ivla|Ivla]] ([[User talk:Ivla|talk]]) 22:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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*Oops! Clumsy old me; I visited the page where I had made that edit and rectified it. Anyway, thanks for reminding me of this error, and I'll try being more careful when adding references to pages. Kudos! [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Leave me a message]]•[[Special:Contributions/FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Changes I have made]])</sup> 03:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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:Frankly speaking, I don't see any clutter on these two pages, especially the information in the Release section, which I feel is sufficient. I would however suggest a minor change to the Bruce Almighty edit (thank you for making those changes by the way). <br />
:The Variety article cited states, "Spyglass Entertainment is reteaming with Universal Pictures to co-finance and handle '''foreign distribution''' on its upcoming Tom Shadyac-helmed comedy “Bruce Almighty.”" On the basis of this information, I suggest the term "Worldwide" be changed to "International" instead as the latter would mean they distributed worldwide outside the U.S. and Canada while the former suggests they distributed worldwide including the U.S. and Canada. Hope this helps. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 10:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:About that, I once saw the back of a Blu-ray of the film from Second Sight Films and the copyright on it was registered to MGM itself, the main reason why I didn't place it in the "owned via Orion Pictures" category. Hope this helps. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 11:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Oops, my bad. Can you remove the second "owned by MGM itself" category, add the "and" word, place both this and the "[[Electric Dreams (film)|Electric Dreams]]" category next to the first "owned by MGM itself" category, and replace the "via [[Orion Pictures]]" category with the "with ownership of the former handled through Orion Pictures" category on the [[Turner Entertainment|Turner Entertainment Co.]] catalog via the pre-May 1986 MGM library, remove the "pre-1959" category on the [[RKO Pictures|RKO Radio Pictures]] library, add the minority stake of the [[Spyglass Media Group]] catalog to the list, and add the "(49%)" and "film" categories to the [[Flagship Entertainment Group]] catalog at [[List of libraries owned by Warner Bros. Discovery]]? [[Special:Contributions/24.114.36.38|24.114.36.38]] ([[User talk:24.114.36.38|talk]]) 01:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::Made minor fixes regarding ''Electric Dreams'' on that page and the one for MGM, don't see any other problem; RKO distributed films on its own till 1959 and any films after are all co-prods owned by their original distributors, Warner-Flagship co-productions are owned by Warner and Spyglass' films are mostly owned by their original distributors (''Four Christmases'' from New Line and ''Invictus'' are owned by Warner). [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 07:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Happy New Year. I don't like to spoil it, but that KikoRiki vandal has came back re-adding Team Invincible to [[List of American films of 2012]] and all international versions of Wikipedia. [[User:FilmandTVFan28|FilmandTVFan28]] ([[User talk:FilmandTVFan28|talk]]) 05:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hi there, i saw that you removed BBC Studios mentions on the Werner Film Productions shows that an IP user added last week. I'm asking you very nicely that if you can create an article for Werner Film Productions and create a category for the shows that Werner Film Productions produced. [[Special:Contributions/148.252.147.184|148.252.147.184]] ([[User talk:148.252.147.184|talk]]) 09:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I noticed you left behind a similar message related to [[StudioCanal]] on [[User:LTPHarry|Harry]]'s page too. Serious question: why don't YOU do it mate? Anyone can make a draft, anyone. Just start a draft with the name of the company, fill in info (with appropriate and reliable sources) and try to nominate it for publishing (must meet [[WP:NOTE|notability guidelines]] though). I apologize but I'm not an expert at creating pages so this is all I have for you. Besides, I'm not free all day (although you may see my edits frequently). Try your hand in the [[WP:SAND|sandbox]] first and then shoot your shot at a draft. Earnest request: please don't ask people to do stuff just because you wanna have it done; there's no harm in trying yourself. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 11:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::That was what I was thinking as well. Why does this IP user (who I suspect has hopped through IPs before) make other users do his bidding? Doesn’t they know that we all have other things to do in life? (the same thing I said when the IP user asked me to edit the StudioCanal page) [[User:LTPHarry|Luigitehplumber]] ([[User talk:LTPHarry|talk]]) 13:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Genuinely intriguing case. I've stumbled across at least two other IPs (which I feel are however unrelated, given the location of this IP range and the other were different) asking other editors to do similar stuff (adding information about film libraries). Despite significant reverts, this IP appears to be dominant, which could develop into an edit war if not handled properly. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 13:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::It could very well be like that. This person really needs to understand that they can simply create and edit pages themselves and maybe make their own account. But who knows? Anything goes. [[User:LTPHarry|Luigitehplumber]] ([[User talk:LTPHarry|talk]]) 20:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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I see that you redid my vision on Eden lake but on allmovie it’s listed as both horror thriller but since I’m awful at coding I can’t get it to work, could you maybe add it, please thank you [[User:Pomniismywife|Pomniismywife]] ([[User talk:Pomniismywife|talk]]) 07:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm afraid that's a problem as I'm facing difficulties with my internet at the moment. You can see [[WP:CITE]] (or [[WP:REFB]], which is more suitable for beginners) for guidelines on how to add references. [[User:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|FloorMadeOuttaFloor]] <sup>([[User talk:FloorMadeOuttaFloor|Converse here]])</sup> 16:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::It seems that there’s been conflict over the issue of the films genre<br />
::I suggest we keep the term ‘horror thriller’ as it was kept like that for years and I brought in a reliable source for proof, I would’ve added 3 more sources but I don’t wanna flood the edit system, do you agree? [[User:Pomniismywife|Pomniismywife]] ([[User talk:Pomniismywife|talk]]) 02:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. A featured topic nomination was made based on the [[History of the National Hockey League]]. In figuring out whether I would support the nomination or not, I noticed there was a split discussion at [[Talk:History_of_the_National_Hockey_League_(1992–present)#Move_to_1992–2017?]] and that you had created [[Draft:History of the National Hockey League (since 2017)]]. It looks like there was support for a split, so I wanted to know if you intend to move the draft to main space. For reference, the featured topic nomination can be found here: [[Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/History of the National Hockey League/archive2]]. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 11:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:: Never mind, I see it is done! [[User:Alaney2k|Alaney2k]] ([[User talk:Alaney2k#top|talk]]) 20:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Yup! We're all good :) I just didn't want to move it without someone involved feeling like it was ready, and they did feel that way! [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 20:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hi Alaney2k, I am trying to update the [[Dark Castle Entertainment]] article. I see that you are a member of [[WP:Film]], and as Dark Castle has produced many films, I hope you will consider implementing the edit request I posted at [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates]]. Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:StarTrekker&diff=1227237350User talk:StarTrekker2024-06-04T15:45:32Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment */ new section</p>
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[[User:P Aculeius|P Aculeius]] ([[User talk:P Aculeius|talk]]) is wishing you [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Seasons Greetings]]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's [[Solstice]] or [[Christmas|Xmas]], [[Eid al-Adha|Eid]], [[Diwali]], [[Hogmanay]], [[Hanukkah]], [[Lenaia]], [[Festivus]] or even the [[Saturnalia]], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br /> <br />
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<small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{[[WP:SUBST|subst]]:[[User:WereSpielChequers/Dec10/Robin]]}} to your friends' talk pages</small>.<br />
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== Happy holidays to you too! 😃 ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hi {{u|StarTrekker}}, Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year 2024 to you too! [[File:Noto_Emoji_v2.034_1f384.svg|24px|alt=🎄]] [[File:Emoji_u1f60a.svg|20px|alt=😊]] [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 13:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:What a lovely present {{Reply to|ToBeFree}}! Thank you![[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 13:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Happy Holidays my friend ==<br />
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'''Hello StarTrekker, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /><br />
[[User:Mazewaxie|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">Mazewaxie</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:Mazewaxie|<span style=" color: #606060;">talk</span>]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Mazewaxie|<span style="color: #606060;">contribs</span>]]) 13:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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|} [[User:Mazewaxie|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">Mazewaxie</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:Mazewaxie|<span style=" color: #606060;">talk</span>]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/Mazewaxie|<span style="color: #606060;">contribs</span>]]) 13:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==Yo Ho Ho!==<br />
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[[User:Skyerise|Skyerise]] ([[User talk:Skyerise|talk]]) is wishing you [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Seasons Greetings]]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's [[Solstice]] or [[Christmas]], [[Diwali]], [[Hogmanay]], [[Hanukkah]], [[Lenaia]], [[Festivus]] or even the [[Saturnalia]], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br /> <br />
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[[User:Skyerise|Skyerise]] ([[User talk:Skyerise|talk]]) 13:49, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Seasons Greetings ==<br />
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|align="center"|<b style="color:red"><i style="font-size:large>Merry Christmas, {{BASEPAGENAME}}!</i><br /> Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 14:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</b><br />
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== Season's Greetings ==<br />
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—''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) is wishing you [[Happy Holidays]]! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user [[Happy Holidays]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> <br />
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''Spread the cheer by adding {{tls|Happy holidays}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''<br />
</div> —''[[User:Facu-el Millo|El Millo]]'' ([[User talk:Facu-el Millo|talk]]) 16:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Merry Christmas! ==<br />
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'''Hello StarTrekker, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /><br />
[[User:Jerium|Jerium]] ([[User talk:Jerium|talk]]) 16:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==Christmas greetings==<br />
[[File:Erfurt-Gloriosa.jpg|thumb|right|Maria Gloriosa]]<br />
May the bells of Christmas ring for freedom!<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-independence-song-became-christmas-070023161.html |agency=[[AFP]] |title=How Ukraine independence song became a Christmas classic |first1=Anna |last1=Malpas |date=December 24, 2023}}</ref> <br />
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May peace be upon us.<br />
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And have a happy and prosperous New Year. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 18:42, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you {{Reply to|1=7&amp;6=thirteen}}, what a lovely message.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 19:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Merry Christmas! ==<br />
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'''Hello StarTrekker, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /><br />
[[User:Trailblazer101|Trailblazer101]] ([[User talk:Trailblazer101|talk]]) 20:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==Happy Holidays!==<br />
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[[User:A.S. Brown]]<sup>[[User talk:A.S. Brown]]</sup> is wishing you [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Seasons Greetings]]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's [[Solstice]] or [[Christmas|Xmas]], [[Eid al-Adha|Eid]], [[Diwali]], [[Hogmanay]], [[Hanukkah]], [[Lenaia]], [[Festivus]] or even the [[Saturnalia]], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br /> <br />
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<small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{[[WP:SUBST|subst]]:[[User:WereSpielChequers/Dec10/Balloon]]}} to your friends' talk pages</small>.<br />
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== Merry Christmas ==<br />
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|<span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> is wishing you a [[Mary Poppins (character)|Merry]] [[Christmas]]!<br />
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<small>This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! </small><br />
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==Happy Wmas==<br />
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<big><big><big><big><big>'''The 12 Days of Wikipedia'''</big></big></big></big></big></br><br />
On the 12th day of Christmas Jimbo sent to me </br><br />
12 [[WP:BLP|BLPs]]</br><br />
11 [[WP:RFA|RFAs]]</br><br />
10 [[Special:ListUsers|New Users]]</br><br />
9 [[Wikipedia:Barnstars|Barnstars]]</br><br />
8 [[WP:ADMIN|Admins]] [[WP:BLOCK|Blocking]]</br><br />
7 [[WP:SOCK|Socks]] Socking</br><br />
6 [[WP:SPICLERK|Clerks]] Clerking</br><br />
5 [[WP:CHK|Check Users]] Checking</br><br />
4 [[WP:OS|Oversighters]] Hiding</br><br />
3 [[WP:GA|GAs]]</br><br />
2 [[WP:DYK|Did You Knows]]</br><br />
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-May your holiday season be filled with joy, laughter and good health.--[[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 07:42, 25 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you for your kind message to me. I wish you merry festive days and a peaceful New Year. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas!==<br />
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{{font|text=''Hello, StarTrekker! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a [[Merry Christmas]] and a [[Happy New Year]]!''|font=Times New Roman|size=19px}}<br />[[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 19:57, 26 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Happy Holidays ==<br />
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'''Hello StarTrekker, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /><br />
[[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 21:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Apologies for just being able to share now. - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 21:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
:{{Reply to|Favre1fan93}} No need to appologise. ❤[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 02:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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==<span style="color:green">Happy</span> <span style="color:red">New</span> <span style="color:blue">Year</span>, <span style="color:#000000"> StarTrekker </span>==<br />
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<span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Davidgoodheart|<span style="color:#345">BabbaQ</span>]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> — is wishing you a '''<span style="color:green">Happy</span> <span style="color:red">New</span> <span style="color:blue">Year</span>!''' Welcome the '''<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:green 0em 0em 0.8em,red -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,blue 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><big><span style="color:green">2024</span></big>'''</font>. Wishing you a happy and fruitful 2024 with good health and your wishes come true! This greeting (and season) promotes [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! May the 2024 go well for you.</div></br><br />
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==Happy Holidays!==<br />
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'''Hello StarTrekker, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this [[Christmas and holiday season|seasonal occasion]]. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by wishing another user a [[Christmas|Merry Christmas]] and a [[New Year|Happy New Year]], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br />Happy editing,'''<br /><br />
[[User:Adamstom.97|adamstom97]] ([[User talk:Adamstom.97|talk]]) 23:07, 30 December 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Happy New Year, StarTrekker! ==<br />
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'''StarTrekker''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.<br />
<br />[[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 20:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)<br /><br /><br />
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== Happy New Year! ==<br />
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<div style="margin-left:177px;vertical-align: middle; border-top: 2px solid green;"> '''Hello StarTrekker: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great [[New Year]]!''' Cheers, [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 22:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</div><br />
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**{{Reply to|ReaderofthePack}} Thank you! Cheers to a happy new year of editing.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 17:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Category:Social class in the Americas]]==<br />
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==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Category:Social class in the Americas]]==<br />
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See [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling#Replacing Current and Currently with As of|Replacing Current and Currently with As of]] --[[User:Mann Mann|Mann Mann]] ([[User talk:Mann Mann|talk]]) 05:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
==[[:Category:Intersex rights in the Americas]] has been nominated for merging==<br />
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== Welcome to [[WP:FEB24|the drive]]! ==<br />
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Welcome, welcome, welcome! Your work on LGBT-related articles is very commendable, especially because how little editors are working on that area. Since I couldn't get [[WP:PetScan]] to run, unfortunately I couldn't suggest to you any articles right now :(. You can try putting "LGBT" in the categories section, adjust the depth to 7, then go to the templates page and put "Unreferenced" in the "has a template:" box to search for uncited articles though. It's complicated I know :). I search for you some articles later in the day if you want some articles to test out your citation skills. [[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] ([[User talk:CactiStaccingCrane|talk]]) 07:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok, PetScan is working again. Here are a few short articles you can try out:<br />
:* [[Terminal Velocity (novel)]]<br />
:* [[Gender transposition]]<br />
:* [[Q-Factor (LGBT)]]<br />
:* [[National Day Against Homophobia]]<br />
:* [[List of LGBT organizations that affiliate with political parties]]<br />
:- [[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] ([[User talk:CactiStaccingCrane|talk]]) 07:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
**Thanks {{Reply to|CactiStaccingCrane}}! I'll try to have a look tomorrow to see what work I can do, right now I have to head to bed.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 22:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==[[:Category:Cultural depictions of Louis XV&#39;s mistresses]] has been nominated for merging==<br />
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==[[:Category:Horror films by region]] has been nominated for merging to {{Cl|Horror films}}==<br />
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== Category:Byzantine women ==<br />
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Your page [[:Category:Byzantine women]] looks likely to be deleted by speedily renaming the older page [[:Category:Women from the Byzantine Empire]] over it. Please see [[WP:CFDS]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 15:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
==[[Coraline (given name)]]==<br />
The name Coraline is actually one that has been invented twice by fictional writers. One source says the French name, with an een ending, was invented for a character in the opera La Toreador in the 1850s. It was later reinvented by Gaiman based on the misprint of Caroline, with the long i ending. In both conttexts, it is an invented name that meets the category. Please do not delete the category again. [[User:Bookworm857158367|Bookworm857158367]] ([[User talk:Bookworm857158367|talk]]) 12:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
== Welcome to the drive! ==<br />
Welcome, welcome, welcome StarTrekker! I'm glad that you are joining the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/February 2024|<br />
drive]]! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.<br />
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==[[:Category:Fictional teams]] has been nominated for merging==<br />
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==Concern regarding [[Draft:Untitled Powerpuff Girls animated series]]==<br />
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, StarTrekker. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that [[Draft:Untitled Powerpuff Girls animated series]], a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months [[WP:G13|may be deleted]], so if you wish to retain the page, please [[Special:EditPage/Draft:Untitled Powerpuff Girls animated series|edit it]] again&#32;or [[WP:USERFY|request]] that it be moved to your userspace.<br />
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. [[User:FireflyBot|FireflyBot]] ([[User talk:FireflyBot|talk]]) 12:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Page approval ==<br />
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Hello. I saw you approved some of my newly created pages about inscriptions. I wanted to ask why some of the inscription pages I made have been approved I made in the last week ([[Zabad inscription]], [[Ruwafa inscriptions]], [[Yazid inscription]]) but others which were created even before some of these still have not been approved ([[Jabal Dabub inscription]], [[Ri al-Zallalah inscription]], [[Jebel Usays inscription]], [[Harran inscription]], [[Hima Paleo-Arabic inscriptions]], [[Dumat al-Jandal inscription]])? [[User:Pogenplain|Pogenplain]] ([[User talk:Pogenplain|talk]]) 16:47, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Hi {{Reply to|Pogenplain}}, the reason for this is likely that some of your articles got listed by a bot on a "new pages" notice page that I happen to follow because they contained some key words (probably related to ancient Rome or Greece, since those are the main topics I follow on Wikipedia), it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the pages or anything like that, all your articles are good as far as I've seen. 🙂[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 17:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you {{Reply to|StarTrekker}}. If you do not mind I have created two more inscriptions and these are the last inscription pages I am creating for the foreseeable future so I hope you can review these quickly as well so that I do not encounter the same issue. [[Umm al-Jimal Paleo-Arabic inscription]] and [[Umm Burayrah inscription]]. [[User:Pogenplain|Pogenplain]] ([[User talk:Pogenplain|talk]]) 19:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::{{Reply to|Pogenplain}} Done! Thank you for your work on these pages.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 20:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::{{Reply to|StarTrekker}} Thank you and I enjoy it. Are you OK with if I tag you from now on on my talk page about approving new pages I make? I also have now [[Paleo-Arabic]], [[Ja 1028]], [[DJE 23]], [[Malkikarib Yuhamin]]. I also changed [[Judaism in pre-Islamic Arabia]] from a redirect into its own page do you know who I can ask to get it a content assessment rating? [[User:Pogenplain|Pogenplain]] ([[User talk:Pogenplain|talk]]) 22:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{Reply to|Pogenplain}} I have no problem with you tagging me to review your articles. Ratings tend to be made by persons who are experienced in quality assessing, something that I'm personally not, ut usually takes at most a couple of weeks for someone to come across a new article and rate it.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 15:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==[[:Category:Lists of groups]] has been nominated for deletion==<br />
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==[[:Category:Fictional code names]] has been nominated for deletion==<br />
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==[[:Category:Works about Middle-earth]] has been nominated for merging==<br />
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== Sorting question ==<br />
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Just saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fasti_Capitolini&diff=1213248746&oldid=1192842326 this edit], and was curious as to the purpose. Using a space for sorting causes the article to be sorted at the top, but a plus causes it to be sorted under a plus—to no obvious advantage that I can see. However, knowing your usual meticulousness, I thought I'd better ask in case I was missing something. As a rule, I always use a space to have things sort at the top; but perhaps there's a reason for not doing so in this instance. [[User:P Aculeius|P Aculeius]] ([[User talk:P Aculeius|talk]]) 01:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{Reply to|P Aculeius}} I tend to use + for related articles which are not lists or the main topic. For example in the case of [[:Category:Ancient Roman censors]] the [[Roman censor]] has a space because it's the main topic, and [[List of censors of the Roman Republic]] uses a * because it's a list, using the + makes the [[Fasti Capitolini]] get listed third as a related but not essential article for the subject. Other symbols can be used for this as well, for example a lot of people use the minus (-) symbol to categorize templates. It's not a hard rule and if you prefer to use a space you are free to change it back.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 03:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
==[[:Category:Children of Ottoman sultans]] has been nominated for renaming==<br />
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== Antón Castillo ==<br />
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Hi there StarTrekker, I was just wondering whether you might still consider working on the [[Draft:Antón Castillo|Antón Castillo draft]] that you have previously contributed to. I feel that Castillo is an important enough character to have his own character article.<br />
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I have attempted to contact the user GhostRiver about her helping to edit the article again, but I have not yet received a response. However, I see no harm in asking you to contribute to the article anyway. <br />
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Also, would it be a good idea to place a notification on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games|Video Games WikiProject]] to see if other editors could contribute to the article? (Oh, and by the way, thanks for the Thanks! I now feel as if I'm [[Bret Hart|the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be]].)<br />
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Kind regards, [[User:Lotsw73|'''Lotsw73''']] ('''[[User talk:Lotsw73|talk]]''') 13:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Yes. I will gladly help with that.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 13:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Females/Women at Naming conventions for women in ancient Rome ==<br />
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Saw you reverted the IP's change this afternoon. I saw it earlier and thought about the same reason you gave, but it seemed nitpicky to me. Yes, women are girls before they're women, but the article is ''called'' "naming conventions for ''women''", not "naming conventions for ''females''". And it's just clunky/florid referring to women and/or girls collectively as "females"; Mark Twain poked fun at James Fenimore Cooper for doing this in the nineteenth century. And of course modern distinctions are irrelevant, or we'd be wading into a minefield with questions as to whether all women and girls are female.<br />
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Perhaps this is an argument for rewording the sentences. But I think that the simpler solution is to leave it at "women" instead of trying to be technically correct in every possible sense. Also, I had it in mind that at some point this and the main article on Roman names should be merged at a better title... but that's for another time. Again, I chose not to intervene this morning because I thought the edits were ''probably'' an improvement, but I'm also not going to revert your changes if you're not convinced. Just explaining why I think they were probably okay. [[User:P Aculeius|P Aculeius]] ([[User talk:P Aculeius|talk]]) 23:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:I guess that's a fair argument. If someone changes it to women again I wont revert it again.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hi. You seem to be into technical stuff, which complements me very nicely, putting it delicately towards myself. I have started the [[Rehovot-in-the-Negev]] article from a somewhat illogical redirect, created 10 yrs ago and leading to [[Rehoboth (Bible)]]. Rehovot-in-the-Negev has NO connection to any of the 3 biblical Rehovot/Rehoboth items. So I feel fine about it in terms of logic. Technically... not so much, as I do know that it shouldn't be done: one puts in an application (I'm always forgetting where), they're wasting time, sometimes somebody opposes out of priciple, eventually the DAB is deleted, and then one can create the article using the vacated name. I did pay attention, have changed/updated all relevant wikilinks etc., but I'm not sure if there isn't some hidden reason why this really isn't the kosher way to do it. Is there a reason? Does some inner Wiki programme/code get confused and the whole project implodes because of me taking a shortcut?<br />
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Thanks, [[User:Arminden|Arminden]] ([[User talk:Arminden|talk]]) 21:29, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{Reply to|Arminden}} As far as I'm aware there is no strict rule against doing what you did (turning a redirect into its own article) and if you have indeed checked all the wikilinks then there shouldn't be a problem.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 21:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you! It's good to hear. Have a great day/night. [[User:Arminden|Arminden]] ([[User talk:Arminden|talk]]) 21:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, @[[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]]— I was just working with the page for this obscure 3rd-century person, and saw that you’d added the line {{tq|He was the last family member of an emperor to be deified posthumously}}, a designation I’d previously seen applied to [[Valerius Romulus]]. The fact was added at least a year ago, but do you remember from whence it originated? Since we’ve previously interacted, I figured I’d ask you directly rather than going through the article’s talk page. [[User:ManuelKomnenos|ManuelKomnenos]] ([[User talk:ManuelKomnenos|talk]]) 13:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{Reply to|ManuelKomnenos}} Oh darn, I really can't remember, I must have forgotten to add a souce. If it is true that [[Valerius Romulus]] was then the line should probably be removed.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker#top|talk]]) 13:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::@[[User:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]] Thanks! I’m going to investigate more before altering anything (I need to hunt down the book that told me Romulus was the last), but wanted to start by checking with you. [[User:ManuelKomnenos|ManuelKomnenos]] ([[User talk:ManuelKomnenos|talk]]) 13:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== What to do about editor who, IMHO, abuses privileges ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate,<br />
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I hope this is the correct way to ask, as I’m really not quite sure about the best approach. This is the first time in literally 20 years of actively editing Wikipedia that I have felt the need to reach out to an admin about another user. I selected you specifically because I discovered, while checking the user’s talk page archive, that you had already warned them once before about their dismissive, overbearing behavior, under threat of revoking their advanced permissions. (See below in archive page 11.)<br />
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I had a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=prev&oldid=1161915646 good-faith edit] (with edit summary) reverted by a user who patrols a large swath of pages. Many months later, I noticed he’d [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=next&oldid=1161915646 reverted it with a terse, undetailed edit summary]. I took a guess at what he meant and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=prev&oldid=1192466635 edited again], and as a courtesy, posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&diff=prev&oldid=1192468376 a note] to that user’s talk page explaining my reasoning in greater detail. He immediately reverted my new edit, and responded to me in a tone that I found entirely inappropriate. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&oldid=1194005597 replied again] in even more detail, which is pending a response from him. (I have not attempted to edit again, pending his response.)<br />
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Looking at the user’s talk page archive, I discovered he has a history of snapping at people with unwarranted aggression and condescension after they ask for clarification (since his edit summaries are often terse and unhelpful), peppering replies with policy links and personal insults, and making a mockery of “assume good faith”. He has been admonished numerous times by other editors about his nasty attitude. This user has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=Search+all+archives+and+open+requests&fulltext=Search&prefix=Wikipedia%3ARequests+for+permissions%2F&search=Paper9oll numerous elevated privileges], and I believe he uses this position to steamroller over other editors. He shows significant “ownership” of anything to do with South Korean entertainment, demanding ''prior'' “consensus” for minor changes he disagrees with, and then refusing to engage in the discussions to achieve said consensus after reverting their edits.<br />
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In summary, I do not believe this user has the temperament needed to enjoy any elevated privileges or responsibilities, since he shows a pattern of not respecting even the most basic rules of civility, never mind practicing the collaborative ethos that underpins Wikipedia. <br />
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Examples of IMHO totally inappropriate responses:<br />
(Sorry, I couldn’t figure how to link directly to individual subheadings on a talk page archive, so the bold titles are the verbatim heading titles.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 14]]<br />
** '''Love Twist (TV Show) discussion''': “Your reply clearly shows that you didn't bothered reading my reply fully and/or exhibiting I didn't heard that. In addition, don't come bs me that this is a norm thing in Wikipedia, I'm not dumb.”<br />
** '''South Korean series on OTT''': “I tried that before, and I have been reverted before as some editors apparently tied "web series" with YouTube-style videos that are like 10–15 mins long, basically those indie drama-like videos, no point talking to them as you basically talking to a wall, they will tell you that [[web series]] stated so.” (Nb: “web series” being the thing I was editing on another page, I guess I’m one of those people there’s “no point talking to” since I disagree with him. IMHO this is a great example of his unwillingness to actually consider others’ concerns.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 13]]<br />
** '''Regarding changes made in Lee Junho's page that you reverted''': “Nice try btw! I'm not blind and certainly your comments above doesn't tally with your actions. It's your [[WP:BURDEN]] to provide [[Wikipedia:RS|reliable sources]]<nowiki/> even if it's [[WP:TRUE]] and no <q>they [doesn't] already exists within the page</q>.”<br />
** '''Reverts without explanation''': “your edits is not an improvement and is inconsistent.” (“Inconsistent” is another thing he accused me and others of, but without any explanation as to inconsistency ''with what''.)<br />
** '''Infobox''': “Already stated that clearly above twice in English, whether you understand them or not isn't my problem. And obvious, you have for the second time demonstrated in your reply that you don't know what you are even doing here and only copying others articles despite already explained clearly above, hence this means the end of our discussion as I don't see how further replies would get communicated through when you clearly demonstrated that you don't know what you are even doing and know how to say others articles exists hence you're only wasting my time. To end, you have no consensus to change and goodbye!” (Unwillingness to clarify when misunderstood, extraordinary rudeness. I also don’t think he really understands that consensus is built, not sought in advance of every edit.)<br />
** '''Nationality of Krystal Jung''': “Your changes made zero sense and has incorrect understanding/interpretation.” (He later backed down, but the tone is inappropriate IMHO.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 12]]<br />
** '''Re: BlackBerry Creative''': <br />
*** “Don't even try to fool me btw, all of your actions are recorded down in the Wikipedia software in case you're unaware of, and easily referred back by any editors.” <br />
*** “OMG ... you have issues understanding English or what ... pretty sure I already answered your queries clearly. To repeat as stated in my initial reply (if you even bothered reading), your edit was reverted because you didn't include any reliable source for Sunye's departure.”<br />
** '''Draft:Bull Gamma 3''': being very rude and condescending to an editor who was clearly making an effort to comply.<br />
** '''Queendom Puzzle''': showing impatience with non-native speaker.<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 11]]<br />
** '''Your edits''': You threatened to revoke his advanced user permissions with the warning: <br />
***“Maybe you're willing to talk to ''me'', then. I'm thinking about taking away your advanced user permissions. Can you reassure me that you actually do read the sources when you revert edits that purport to remove defamatory content? Or are you just blindly reverting IP editors because you don't trust them?”<br />
*** “You need to be less dismissive of people's concerns when they come to your talk page. I sincerely hope that you're reading the sources when you revert an edit and not just reverting because the edit looks suspicious.” <br />
:::(So by this point, 9 months ago, he’d already been getting a reputation of being dismissive.)<br />
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And so on and so forth, on every archive page there are more examples of this behavior. He is clearly angering and scaring off other editors (they’ve said so in the talk pages) with his uncooperative, impatient, condescending attitude, and I think it at least bears investigation by an admin. <br />
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Thank you for looking into this. I don’t want or intend to get into an edit war with him, but the fact that this seems to be a ''pattern'' of bully-like behavior compelled me to bring this to your attention. <br />
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Best regards and happy new year, — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 04:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I can take a look at it, but it'll probably have to wait until tomorrow. It's getting pretty late here. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 04:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Of course, much appreciated! I’d much prefer you take your time to research as thoroughly as you feel is needed, rather than to rush to action.<br />
::FYI, he has since replied (without addressing my concerns in any way, stating that his mind will not change and that I should take it to the relevant wiki project talk page), to which I replied [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&diff=prev&oldid=1194151087 here]. <br />
::Regards, <br />
::— [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 13:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::He and I have since had one more round of replies, and we’ve at least reached a place to move forward on the contentious edit. I did take the liberty of giving some really calmly-worded feedback on his communication style, since I sincerely believe he comes across as harsher than intended. I do, however, stand by my opinion that admin review of his advanced permissions is warranted, just because it’s been such a pattern of inappropriate behavior. (Even if his wording were super-tactful, I still feel that he doesn’t automatically give other editors the patience and chance for actual collaboration that they deserve, e.g. by reverting without providing substantive explanations, and by reverting for “no consensus” before giving any chance for consensus to be formed.) Thanks again, — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 21:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, edit warring due to "no consensus" (in other words, "[[Wikipedia:I just don't like it|I just don't like it]]") is still edit warring. If someone edit wars using [[WP:rollback|rollback]], that's grounds for removing it. That's for using that specific user right, though, which leaves the tag "rollback" as in [[Special:Diff/1194090415|this edit]]. Notice how it says "tag: rollback". Now, an edit that uses a ''rollback-like'' feature, such as [[WP:Twinkle|Twinkle]] doesn't count for this. Notice how [[Special:Diff/1191209117|this edit]] has a rollback-like edit summary, but it's using Twinkle (and thus, there's no "tag: rollback"). Refusing to communicate or engage in consensus-building is [[WP:DISRUPTSIGNS|considered disruptive]]. It looks like you're making some progress, though, even if it's small steps. I can leave a message on [[User talk:Paper9oll]] ''again'', and maybe that'll help. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, I am also pleased that some progress was made.<br />
::::I leave it in your best judgment to review his talk history and edit history and determine what, if any, concrete actions need to be taken. (Please review my discussion with him first.) To be crystal clear, my “dream outcome” would be that he stays engaged and enthusiastic, but just bites his tongue a bit more often, and maybe chooses to hesitate a bit more before smashing the “revert” button, but also engages in productive discussions more readily, treating other editors as peers, not subjects, whose concerns are given earnest consideration, without instantly clobbering them with policy and threats to report them for violating it.<br />
::::I also realized that my title for this talk thread, written as a draft and then forgot to refine, is not quite accurate: it’s not so much that he abused the permissions per se, but rather that I don’t think someone with his reactive temperament is necessarily the kind of user that should have those privileges. I think having these permissions confers a perceived seniority that can intimidate many users and make them hesitant to respond, and I think users with advanced privileges also have a certain “ambassador” role that begins with exhibiting exemplary behavior. (Years ago I was a moderator, later admin, of a forum with 60K active users, so this may color my expectations of what a user with special permissions should behave like.) <br />
::::I also welcome any feedback you may have on how I handled the situation. I did my best but am always happy to improve. <br />
::::Thanks again for your time, and I hope you have a great day. — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 02:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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: Yeah, I saw. This kind of petty harassment comes with the job, I guess. I already requested a global lock. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Reporting disruptive editor ==<br />
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Do you remember back in April of last year that I [[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate/Archive2023-1#Reporting disruptive editor|reported]] this editor for making unexplained changes in articles and you blocked them for a year? It appears that the editor has evaded their block and is still making questionable edits to articles [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodeo_%28Travis_Scott_album%29&diff=1196310009&oldid=1194628162] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_a_Perfect_World...&diff=1196096366&oldid=1192420407] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=For_All_the_Dogs&diff=1195963853&oldid=1195349259]. [[User:TheAmazingPeanuts|TheAmazingPeanuts]] ([[User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts|talk]]) 03:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I did a 6 month soft block on [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C56:7600:0:0:0:0:0/40]]. I guess we'll see what happens after that. I can disable account creation or try longer, targeted range blocks, but it seems like the edits are happening on a wider range than I initially thought. Thank you for including a link to the previous discussion. This stuff is often difficult for me to remember. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Neutral 3rd party needed on Roger Ver Biography article ==<br />
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Hi there NinjaRobotPirate. I have edited Wikipedia before but am not a professional. I don't know if my pinging you in another article would be seen so I decided to make this note in your talk page as well.<br/> First of all, I know that my edits are not perfect and I welcome constructive criticism. I also respect differing viewpoints. However, there is another Wikipedia user, one who you have [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=985504979#Uncivil_behavior_and_removal_of_references_in_Imelda_Marcos previously topic banned], who has reverted all of my 11,000 bytes of edits on the page for [[Roger Ver]] without, from what I can tell, even reading them. This is similar to why they were banned before. Worst of all, they appear to have a personal bias against Ver. I am not asking you take sides. I would be perfectly comfortable if someone who was neutral went through the page as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Ver&oldid=1196426598 I had edited it to] and took away what they believed was not appropriate. But I am not comfortable with someone who is biased deleting everything whole cloth and refusing to restore anything, even despite considerable conversations about it in the Talk page. In general, they appear to have a lazy, flippant attitude the longer the discussion goes on. I'd appreciate if you had a look, not to take sides, but just to be neutral, please, and hopefully allow some of these edits to go through.<br />
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{{reply to|NinjaRobotPirate}} Thank you [[Special:Contributions/58.97.215.166|58.97.215.166]] ([[User talk:58.97.215.166|talk]]) 14:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I don't really know anything about that. [[WP:3O]], [[WP:BLPN]], or [[WP:ANI]] might be a better place to look for assistance. By the way, your IP address seems to be part of a botnet. I assume that since you're editing about cryptocurrency stuff (and speaking fluent English from a Cambodian IP address) that you're using proxies to hide your true IP address. If this isn't the case, you should immediately run anti-malware programs. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Your assumption was wrong. I've waited a month to respond to you. I am physically present in the country of Cambodia, and I speak fluent English. Here's a picture I personally took less than 24 hours ago in Siem Reap Cambodia. Note the handwritten IP address (mine) on Monday's Times of London printout:<br />
::https://web.archive.org/web/20240220032255/https://ibb.co/Rg0QCsw<br />
::There are millions of English speakers who live, work, and teach around the world. I had previously edited multiple pages unrelated to cryptocurrency in the months prior, including a page about election ink in Cambodia. And no, my computer is not infected with malware. [[Special:Contributions/58.97.215.166|58.97.215.166]] ([[User talk:58.97.215.166|talk]]) 03:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Your IP address is on multiple blacklists, including the [[The Spamhaus Project|XBL]], [[SpamCop]], and [[Forum spam#Spam prevention|StopForumSpam]]. I really couldn't care less about some picture on the internet. You could post a picture of yourself shaking hands with the king of Cambodia while making an unblock request, and it still wouldn't change the fact that your IP address is on multiple blacklists. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 05:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Matthew Jarvis ==<br />
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[[User:Hiiiii63562hrhd]] is making edits to this disambiguation about some guy of that name who was born in 2012 and is described in some variation of "the greatest). This is obviously a new account for banned [[User:535gstjb]]. --[[User:Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Khajidha|contributions]]) 16:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, seems kind of obvious. If more show up, I can start semi-protecting the pages or something. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== The return of 45.8.146.82 ==<br />
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Previously you blocked [[Special:Contributions/45.8.146.82|45.8.146.82]]. I'm dropping a note to let you know that one IP blocked by another admin, [[Special:Contributions/91.192.81.61|91.192.81.61]], and a currently unblocked IPs [[Special:Contributions/185.104.63.112|185.104.63.112]] are editing the same topics in the same style. There has been a persistent problem with a user behind these IPs that I notice when they edit in questionable information about the use of herbs by ethnicities, particularly the Roma. I think you're well aware of this nonsense but for completeness here are three other previous IPs:<br />
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Please let me know if I should be putting this at a particular board when I see this block evader return again in the future, as they will almost undoubtedly return. [[User:MtBotany|🌿MtBotany]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 17:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:And I was right about them returning quickly. Now editing as [[Special:Contributions/86.107.179.231|86.107.179.231]]. [[User:MtBotany|🌿MtBotany]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 02:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Could be using VPNs or something like that. There's a bot that automatically blocks them, but it doesn't get everything. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Did just as you said ==<br />
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@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] Well, thanks for helping me, man. I removed the information from my user page and you're right. I should just shrug it off like it's no big deal. Cheers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 11:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I know it seems pretty weird to give a barnstar for such a simple problem, but since it's like you helped me get out of a pit I wasn't able to escape, I couldn't help but thank you for your mentorship. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 11:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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: It's easier to see things clearly when you're uninvolved. Also, I've been on the internet since the early 1990s. I've had a lot of time to learn this stuff. My email account is older than a lot of Wikipedians, I think. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, the thing is that I was born in the 2000s, so I've just become an adult. I need to learn even more about how dangerous the internet is. I actually have been reading up on books talking about networking, internet, and hackers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 23:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: I wonder if Wikipedia has something like an internet survival guide. If not, maybe it'd be interesting to write something like that some day. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Probably I could do something like that (such as writing a book or story) when I'm in college and then publish it lol. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 03:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I do think there may be a "Wikipedia for Dummies" book in my local library, actually. I might check it out the next time I go there. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 03:38, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== The Sockpuppeteer ==<br />
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When I typed all that stream-of-consciousness diatribe, I was unaware of that account. I didn't see there was a category with nearly 20; I only went from the banner of "Emmy Fan" or w/e to that user page, which showed me a "Keyblade420"; thus, I never saw that death threat. I can understand your aggravation.<br />
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As I said in my response, everything I said was as far as I knew him on the 96th Oscars page. I was not involved with a Law & Order forensic sockpuppetry investigation, which is impressive. And examining those other accounts....I just noticed Key Clue #1: '''He repeatedly blanked ALL of his talk pages there too!''' Quite an obvious pattern–circumstantial, but nonetheless compelling.<br />
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Well, he asked me to vouch for him, and I did as I knew of him then for all of 2 weeks. Can't blame me beyond that. --[[User:Cinemaniac86|Cinemaniac86]]<sup>[[User talk:Cinemaniac86|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cinemaniac86|Stalk]]</sub> 16:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Well, my advice would be not to write passionate testimonials in defense of someone that you've only known for 2 weeks, especially if you're not going to make any effort to learn who you're defending. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed. I ought not get involved at all, unless I'm certain it's some miscarriage of justice. When you posted the death threat, I was taken aback, because my statement about him was only about present-day him, not past him.<br />
::However, I just woke up at the time. I did make an effort to check. Just a minuscule one, not thorough. For future sockpuppetry, I'm more aware of how to ascertain more details now. --[[User:Cinemaniac86|Cinemaniac86]]<sup>[[User talk:Cinemaniac86|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cinemaniac86|Stalk]]</sub> 23:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Reporting a disruptive editor - February 2024 ==<br />
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Hello, I've noticed some edit-warring over on [[The Magic Roundabout (film)]] and I would like to report an [[User:Bbc1984|editor]] who is adding in unnecessary detail. The same applies with [[The Wizard of Oz (1939 film)]]. I have a feeling that his edits are a [[WP:FILMPLOT]] violation. [[User:TPercival|TPercival]] ([[User talk:TPercival|talk]]) 07:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Well, {{noping|Bbc1984}} has been warned about edit warring a couple times, so I did a short edit warring block. I don't know if it'll do much, but I also left a note. For what it's worth, {{noping|Bbc19812}} is {{confirmed}}, but there doesn't seem to be any illegitimate socking. The user page ("don't ban me") strikes me as a bit suspicious, but sometimes younger editors just blurt out stuff like that without realizing that it makes them sound suspicious. I've even seen a couple user pages that said stuff like "stop banning me". It boggles the mind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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A user with your username was registered over at rationalwiki.org https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NinjaRobotPirate a couple of days ago, is this you? if it ain't you I'm probs going to block it for a disruptive impersonation of a Wikipedia admin. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]]) 13:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: No, that's not mine. Probably just some random dude. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't think so.. I've blocked for impersonating a Wikipedia admin. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]]) 19:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== That one IP user doing bad warnings and reverts ==<br />
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Hi, I saw you blocked [[Special:Contributions/111.82.0.0/18|one of their /18 ranges]] (are these VPNs?). I just noticed [[Special:Contribs/111.82.106.32|<this>]] one though, which is on the /17. I guess they didn't do much with it, but I figured you might want to know. <br><br />
&ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 20:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I guess it could be a VPN. There seem to be some unreverted edits on Chinese Wikipedia, though, so there may be legit editors here. I expanded the range block to the /17, which should help. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:50, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, that makes sense. <br />
::I asked if it was VPNs more because of the geolocation differences - the ones you blocked and the ones Zzuuzz blocked ([[Special:Contribs/223.136.64.0/18|1]], [[Special:Contribs/223.140.0.0/16|2]]) are close together, but the other single IPs doing the same thing recently weren't: [[Special:Contribs/66.11.61.139|1]], [[Special:Contribs/153.181.48.17|2]]. <small>Although, I was under the wrong impression that the ones Zzuuzz blocked were in a different location when I asked.</small><br />
::Thanks for expanding the block.<br />
:: &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 01:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Many East Asian IP addresses that edit English Wikipedia seem to be proxies, VPNs, or similar. A decent amount of long-term disruption and sock puppetry comes from them. They'll get increasingly harsher range blocks as they're abused, regardless of whether they're VPNs. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Check two suspected sockpuppets ==<br />
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Could you please check whether RyanW1995 is the sockpuppet of Raja Nine to Five? Thanks. [[User:Natsuikomin|Natsuikomin]] ([[User talk:Natsuikomin|talk]]) 03:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Why do you think they're related? You'd have to give some sort of evidence. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I've made a report on Indonesian Wikipedia, but the checkusers there don't give immediate response. So, I ask you here hoping that you can directly check it. [[User:Natsuikomin|Natsuikomin]] ([[User talk:Natsuikomin|talk]]) 03:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== BLP Violation ==<br />
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Hi NRP. I've already reverted this[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brett_Ratner&diff=prev&oldid=1209194012] and dropped a warning on the user's talkpage[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DAHcat&diff=prev&oldid=1209207244], but it's so egregious that I still wanted to call attention to an admin; the user may require some monitoring. Thanks. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: {{noping|DAHcat}}, {{noping|MannEdith}}, {{noping|TheHetStopper}}, and {{noping|Frankypedia}} are all {{confirmed}} to each other. I figured it would be some LTA vandal in the Israel-Palestine topic area, but I guess it's just a garden variety political troll. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 23:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Glad I pointed it in your direction, then. I was just focused on the BLP side, though I did note the odd editing history; even so, I wouldn't have had anyone against which to match the user in order to file at SPI. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 16:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Checkuser request ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate. Could you please do a check of {{noping|PukeFlower}}? The account looks like a possible sockpuppet of {{noping|Bobbylonardo}} based on behavioral similarities, interaction analysis, and timeline analysis. Thanks. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 06:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: {{noping|Bobbylonardo}} has an extensive history of logged out editing, but his IP address was blocked for a lengthy period of time. That seems to be around when he switched to using his account. {{noping|PukeFlower}} looks {{unrelated}}. There's a little overlap in their editing, but they're probably both just fans of pop culture. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for checking! [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 23:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== In case you missed it... ==<br />
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You might find [[User talk:Mr. Peter Griffin#Blocked|this]] amusing. <b>[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]</b><sup>[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]</sub> 13:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]] I couldn't help but cracking a smile at that. I know this may not be my business, but it makes me laugh a bit at it. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 14:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Yeah, I guess the whole "why does everyone think I'm a bad person just because I sent death threats and keep sneaking back under different names" thing is a bit amusing, but it makes you wonder whether Gen X were even worse parents than the Baby Boomers. I used to think our parents screwed up the world much worse than us, but you can only really blame reality TV, the commercialization of the internet, email spam, Millennials, and Gen Z on us. At least we're not responsible for most of the political messes in the world. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Eh, that's true. To be fair though, I am a Gen Z, and I only started learning all about this generation stuff and I was pretty surprised to hear that my dad was literally right at the end of the Baby Boomers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 16:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: The lines can get pretty hazy. I think statisticians mostly just make up date ranges, then the rest of the world more-or-less goes along with them. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== My user talk page ==<br />
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Ah, crap. Looks like I've become another target of their non-stop attacks against other editors. Oh well, it was well worth explaining the issue to other editors unfamiliar with the long-term abuse issue on [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1149#User:Amaury needs to go|the ANI thread]] (which was actually filed by them using a previous IP, ended in boomerang action of course). The more editors aware of their behavioural pattern and reverting them, the better, IMO. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 08:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [[Special:Diff/1209591097]]? It's ironic that this person would talk about living in someone's head rent free. Sounds like a pretty obvious case of projection to me. Not so surprising that they so worried about what people say about them that they're reading through admin boards, too. It doesn't really matter. I'll just semi-protect your talk page. I let him post to mine so I can collect IP addresses and use them as data for range blocks. If it gets out of hand, I'll just complain to the ISP and ask for his parents' service to be cut off. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 13:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah.<br />
::I honestly don't really mind the occassional or weekly personal attack, I deal with a fair share of different LTAs here, and legitimate IPs / new accounts do post to my talk page from time to time, but thanks for that.<br />
::The post they made to RfD lately gave me a good laugh. I don't feel upset in the slightest, I found it pretty funny. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 01:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, I'm glad you've got a thick skin. It helps a lot when dealing with unsupervised children. If you're really that chill about abuse being lobbed at you, you might consider trying your hand at being an administrator some day. It makes cleaning up after LTA vandals a lot easier. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::This message is not a response to NinjaRobotPirate, but to 'that guy':<br />
::::Lol. Just thought I'd let you know, that I'm not upset at all by your sayings. I'm having a good laugh here. If you read carefully, I didn't specifically request page protection here. The lack of me responding means I don't care at all. In fact this is the last time I'll ever respond directly. Bye! —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 04:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==You've got mail!==<br />
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[[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== My other message ==<br />
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Don't forget to send the form to the other administrators as well. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:The form is in your Gmail. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Sorry, I'm not really interested. If I ever get bored enough to click on random links that people send me via email, I've got about 1000 PC games I can play instead. I'm terrible about buying cheap games and never playing them. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Oof. Okay. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Edit: I asked DFO if he would do the response, and both he and Yamla did them. The responses though? Very interesting lol. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 00:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==Suspected sockpuppet==<br />
Hi! Could you please check whether [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/HotTwoDagon&target=HotTwoDagon&offset=&limit=500 HotTwoDagon] is a sockpuppet of TotalTruthTeller24? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kick-Ass_%E2%80%93_The_Dave_Lizewski_Years&diff=1187524005&oldid=1184782106 This] looks like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kick-Ass_%E2%80%93_The_Dave_Lizewski_Years&diff=921491080&oldid=917032384 this]. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMillarworld&diff=1187526851&oldid=1187297023 This] looks like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMillarworld&diff=1191996769&oldid=1187526851 this]. Thanks. --[[User:Omnipaedista|Omnipaedista]] ([[User talk:Omnipaedista|talk]]) 07:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that's TTT24. Some of my old range blocks are timing out. I guess I need to start doing them for 1 year instead of 6 months. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Sock ==<br />
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100% certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Revenger999 this account] is another Gamerguy94 sock. There are some obvious [[WP:BEANS|editing behaviors]] on display. The sockmaster doesn't have a SPI page, so I'm bringing this straight to you. Also pinging [[User:Ponyo|Ponyo]] since they've blocked a number of the socks, too. Recent history at ''[[The Sixth Sense]]'' shows they were using an IP last week for block evasion, too. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Exceedhingly obvious sock is now blocked, along with {{np|Trollhunter97}}.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 20:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks--you wasted ''no'' time! :) [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== “removing sources” ==<br />
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I did not “remove” references on Footloose. I moved the ''same'' AFI to cite the companies not in the credits. I mean do you want 8 of the same references in the INFOBOX? Ok. Gotcha. A lot of other good edits were reverted. Please don’t template me like I’m a vandal. I’ve been here the same time you have. <span style="solid;background:#a3b18a; border-radius: 4px; -moz-border-radius: 4px; font-family: Papyrus">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<span style="color: #606c38">Mike</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<span style="color:#606c38">Allen</span>]]'''</span> 09:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Whos? ==<br />
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{{Noping|Snowfallen 678}}? See [[That's Entertainment (Hazbin Hotel)]] -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Oh, that'd be {{user|TotalTruthTeller24}}, along with {{user|Kneelint}} and a bunch of new proxies that I hadn't blocked yet. TTT24 socks have been diversifying their interests somewhat – the newest socks typically go on a run of edits to unrelated articles before developing an obsessive interest in cartoons, comic books, and superheroes. It's like, "Hello, I'm just an average editor who's interested in copy editing articles about financial investments, and, oh yeah, here's a 20KB article about some cartoon character." [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:48, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Boo. That's less interesting than some other sock I simply haven't seen before. It was clear not new but I didn't make the cartoon connection since I deal with Ttt24 mostly through VGs. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Yeah, TTT24 has been on a cartoon binge recently. Or, at least, I'm pretty sure they're all cartoons. I haven't really kept up with pop culture in years, so I have to look this stuff up sometimes. I finally got around to watching the ''John Wick'' films this month. They're not bad. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] Oh yeah, today I just watched KFP4. I don't understand how critics think it's bad, because I like the chemistry between Po and Zhen. Sadly though, the Furious Five don't appear until the freaking end. Honestly, it might not be as good as the first three films, but it's not entirely inferior as the critics say. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::: Ah, I don't know much about that. I tend to prefer art (in its various forms) that is dark, violent, and surreal. [[H. P. Lovecraft]], [[H. R. Giger]], [[David Lynch]], [[David Cronenberg]], that sort of thing. I had a girlfriend in college who tried to get me to listen to uplifting music because she thought all my music was too depressing. I was like, "It's not all industrial music, death metal, and The Cure. I listen to happy music, too." I put on something that I thought was pretty damn happy. She said, "You call ''that'' happy?" [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::I hate when those adults always have that cliched saying "Video game music isn't real music." Well, I'm telling you, they are so wrong. Have they never listened to [[Super Mario Galaxy]] music? Believe me, Nintendo actually used a live orchestra to record it. I had never known they would use an orchestra for a video game, since it sounds way more lifelike than a chip-tuner and has a lot of depth. Mario Galaxy will always remain one of my favorite games of all time, because seriously, I can never get over how damn good the Bowser music is. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 17:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::: New forms of media often struggle at first to be recognized as worthwhile art. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Facts. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== WorldWideBallCaps's Sockpuppets ==<br />
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Hey Remember when you Blocked WorldWideBallCaps, Well Guess what He's Back. Somehow they came back on Wikipedia and it has been a On going War since then. I would really Appreciate your Help. Here are the 2 Accounts, he has been Using: [[Special:Contributions/172.92.204.120]] and [[Special:Contributions/172.92.235.185]]. How can I tell it's Him, Well WorldWideBallCaps openly Admitted that he's from Washington State and I have traced both IP Ranges and they are also from Washington State, so clearly it's the Same Person 100%. Also, they have Edited a Bunch of Pages that WorldWideBallCaps edited and bunch of them are Sports pages. They have been Annoying and a Bully and they are Using their IP address instead of Creating an new Account so they Can't get Blocked again. And if they Reply to this, Don't Fall for their BS.<br />
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Original Account: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WorldwideBallcaps]<br />
Their Contributions:[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WorldwideBallcaps] [[Special:Contributions/2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82|2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82]] ([[User talk:2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82|talk]]) 04:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, he isn't that much better either. He's the one who's really in the wrong here. [[Special:Contributions/172.92.204.120|172.92.204.120]] ([[User talk:172.92.204.120|talk]]) 16:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Serves You Right! Nah, you Were in the Wrong Here! [[Special:Contributions/2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9|2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9]] ([[User talk:2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9|talk]]) 20:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Thank You NinjaRobotPirate for taking Care of it. See he Basically Confirms and Admitted that he is WorldWideBallCaps. Kinda Wish he was Blocked Indefinitely instead. They have been really Annoying. He 100% Deserves it. Again, Thanks for the Help. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582|2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582]] ([[User talk:2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582#top|talk]]) 19:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Requesting un-protecting of the Sweet Baby Inc.-talk page ==<br />
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Following proper Wikipedia conduct, I first contact you, the Wikipedia editor who put the SBI talk page to "semi-protected" status, denying people to further bring up criticism to the current state of the article.<br />
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You yourself mention that Wikipedia requires more civil behavior, yet you immediately accuse all critics of having "strong feelings", when the talk-page shows how all people were doing was calmly bring up valid criticism against the current state of the SBI-article. To imply that critics have "strong feelings" comes off as an attempt to de-rationalize their criticism or in other words, paint them as "idiots" or else. <br />
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You wrote: <br />
"Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs or expose the truth."<br />
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Certainly, though, Wikipedia is here to report factual information to the best conscience of all contributors, right? In the case of the SBI-article, several named Wikipedia-editors have shown to ignore all and any criticism brought forward, mostly under the flimsy given reason of "Wikipedia doesn't allow social media posts as a source". Which could have been acceptable, if then the consequence would be to remove the entire article (or at least the controversial section) until proper sources exist to shine light on the entire situation. By omitting key information (not feelings), the article is currently abused by bad faith-actors as ammunition for their cause. All that while named Wikipedia-editors are aware of the article's misinformation, because they themselves were shown primary sources such as official tweets by SBI employees and CEO as well as videos, all of which while it cannot be used on Wikipedia ("because social media posts aren't a source"), certainly prove to the individual human Wikipedia-editors that indeed there is crucial information missing to the current article. In which case a removal of the entire controversy-section should have long been the logical consequence.<br />
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I hope this gets through to you and those it needs to reach. Otherwise I will follow proper Wikipedia conduct and issue an official un-protection of the article. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 18:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I think you'll find that almost all of your concerns are addressed by reading the linked pages in my message. You're not the first person to come to Wikipedia to wage an ideological battle using primary sources and links to social media. Those links will answer your questions and complaints. Please also be aware that Wikipedia editors must [[WP:assume good faith|assume good faith]]. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::You just violated the "good faith"-rule by accusing me of "waging an ideological battle". I have repeatedly explained that this is not about anyone's opinion, it's about a factually incorrect article, omitting key information. In a hypothetical scenario where you chose to only include information from the other side, it'd be just as bad. It shouldn't be that hard to understand that a situation ought to be portrayed in its entirety before a Wikipedia-article is warranted. Right now, you are the one "waging an ideological battle", whether you intend to or not.<br />
::I will now request an official un-protecting of the article since you have shown to not act in good faith. After all the calmly brought forward arguments, this has ended in a very disappointed manner. Have a nice day regardless. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 21:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== "Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs or expose the truth." ==<br />
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The fact that you're openly admitting, as a Wikipedia admin, that this site isn't here to tell the truth, should get you removed from your position immediately. Wikipedia is supposed to be an objective, unbiased source and there is no place for people like you in it. [[Special:Contributions/157.131.103.182|157.131.103.182]] ([[User talk:157.131.103.182|talk]]) 21:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Or we should promote him to Super Admin, since he's exactly right, per our policies and guidelines. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] I literally agree. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Saw this edit in recent changes, not to dogpile any further but this essay on [[WP:VNT|verifiability, not truth]] may be useful to understanding this policy. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 21:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:157.131.103.182|157.131.103.182]] Yes, he did say that the site isn't here to tell the truth, but it was all for the right reasons. Also, saying that he can't even be in it is considered as a personal attack. Don't ever do that again, as you may get potentially blocked. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] Or not even Super Admin; possibly we could even promote him to a bureaucrat (though the threshold is pretty tight). [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::It's frustrating how all of this appears to be "fun" for you. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 22:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: Bureaucrats don't really do anything except [[WP:supervote|supervote]] during [[WP:requests for adminship|requests for adminship]]. I'm not even sure why we have them. The reason why people think it's amusing is because they've grown cynical. Wikipedia's admins have to deal with this day-in and day-out – people trying to convince you that you need to cite self-published blogs and social media to get the full story on Flat Earthers, or vaccines, or astrology, or UFO abductions, or... it's just endless. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::NO no no no no... this is definitely our first rodeo at all this! -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Did you know there's a [[WP:Bingo|Wikipedia Bingo]]? Very cynical indeed. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know why I'm laughing at all of this. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 09:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I didn't know about WP:BINGO. I think I win at least once a week. I want all my nothings now please. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::: I can't offer a genuine [[Marvel No-Prize]], but you can have a cheap knockoff that was made in New Jersey. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== 2409:40E6:0:0:0:0:0:0/36 ==<br />
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Thank you for the above block. The same sock seems to be editing from this range as well - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=2409%3A40E6%3A1E%3A7F41%3ACCB2%3A8FF%3AFE92%3AACF7%2F36&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50]. <br />
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[[User:Chaipau|Chaipau]] ([[User talk:Chaipau|talk]]) 17:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [[Special:Contributions/2409:4065::/36]]? There's actually a bunch of socks active on there. Probably on the new one above, too, since it's pretty busy and wide. I don't usually have a problem with blocking wide IP ranges, but that one is a bit busier than I usually like. I could disable anonymous editing and see if that helps any. It should make any sock puppets a bit easier to see, at least. It's harder to track them when they're popping up all over the place on random IP ranges. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, that works. You have already protected them! [[User:Chaipau|Chaipau]] ([[User talk:Chaipau|talk]]) 02:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Some games not in your list ==<br />
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At [[User:NinjaRobotPirate/Games]]. Since that table compromises a list of games without a Wikipedia page, why isn't Gorilla Tag, Sun Haven and Dinkum there, given that they are all quite popular and have at least 10k Steam reviews?. In my eyes, they would be notable but Wikipedia says otherwise. <small>(edit 16:55 UTC - corrected link as that used to take to the talk page of that table of games page)</small><br />
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How about Cuisineer and Travellers Rest given that both has at least a thousand Steam reviews? [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 17:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: The page started out as a place for me to store my notes for video game articles that I intended to create. As time went on, I looked through more sources and expanded the scope to include more stuff, such as console games, pixel art games, and obscure Eurojank. However, it's still limited to what I've found and what's [[WP:notable|notable]] by Wikipedia's standards. For example, ''Sun Haven'' has [https://www.metacritic.com/game/sun-haven/ no critic reviews] at [[Metacritic]]. But if someone sees anything that I missed, it can't hurt to mention it. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Oh I see. I thought that was just a list of somewhat popular games without a Wikipedia page. It feels odd seeing that games like [[Dinkum]] and [[Sun Haven]] are more popular than say, [[Fae Farm]] even though the latter has a page but the former don't. In other words, popular video games (including the ones I mentioned) don't have a page and obscure video games can which is out of the ordinary. Any idea what would have been the most popular video game (using Steam reviews) without a WP article? [[Supermarket Simulator]] springs into mind, more popular than Sun Haven, also not having a [https://www.metacritic.com/game/supermarket-simulator/ Metacritic]. That table of games seems to also help other creatirs make those video games because you already listed some of them. I think three reliable sources is the minimum. I also feel like your the one who has created the most video game articles yet. [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 16:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: The most popular one that I found was ''[[Brotato]]'', which had 64K reviews before I moved the draft into mainspace. Of the articles I personally created, it was probably ''[[Timberborn]]'', which had around 20K reviews before I created the article. I created ''[[Dave the Diver]]'' just after it was released, but it already had around 10K or 15K reviews, and reviewers were calling it one of the best games of the year. ''Timberborn'' was mentioned in some lists of the most popular indie games of all time, but it's still in early access. That somewhat limited its coverage in reliable sources, but there was enough to make an article. Right now, ''[[Unheard (video game)|Unheard]]'' has almost 27K Steam reviews.<p> It's hard to figure what causes one game to get reviewed but another one to be ignored. I think the glut of indie games makes it difficult to find gems, especially if you only have a few reviewers on staff. They can only play so many games per week. The other problem is that so many games are clones of clones. There are zillions of games that have the same basic gameplay and similar graphics. That might attract fans of the genre, but it can alienate others. And if you have to play games for a living, I imagine it gets boring playing the same game repeatedly.<p> I think I've created around 200 video game articles now, but it could be more. There are probably people who've created more than that – it's certainly not a huge number. The thing is that I can pump them out pretty quickly, so my name shows up a lot. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Well anyway, thank you for the discussion about what video games belong to your user page table and how popular games do not end up having an article. [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 00:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Is this you? ==<br />
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Hello. While clerking reports at [[WP:EFFPR]], I stumbled upon this account, {{u|NinjaRabitPilot}}, claiming that it was an alt account of yours.<br />
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Is this you or just an impersanator? Thanks – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 00:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Blocked.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 00:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Same as {{noping|SpaceSuitSpiff}}. Some long-term vandal or another. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Ok thanks. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 01:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== IP sock ==<br />
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Hey, sorry to bother you. Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz#216.200.84.231 this], the sock keeps coming: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.46.64.50 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:280:CB00:903C:7580:40A2:4539:C4B6 here]. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 21:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that's got to be the same sock. I can semi-protect [[Barbie (film)]], which might help. I'm not going to remember this, so I'll write it here: the first one looks like it's a hotel or something, so I range blocked the /29; and the second one looks like more Comcast IP-hopping, so I range blocked that /44. If the sock shows up again, just let me know. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, have a nice day. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 21:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. I wasn't sure if creating a new section would be ideal as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.51.216.91 this IP looks like the same sock], similar editing while continuing to imitate my edit summaries. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 23:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: It's more of a problem when people literally edit some section in the middle of the page. I'm visually impaired and sometimes find it difficult to focus on the right spot in a sea of text. There don't seem to be many other obvious sock edits on that IP range. I'll just block the IP for a week, and I guess we can figure out what to next time when it comes around. Sometimes Comcast customers continue to pop up for a while on random IP ranges. It's mostly a matter of [[Whac-A-Mole]], I guess. Page protection is also an option. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 01:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk:Sweet Baby Inc. ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sweet_Baby_Inc.&diff=prev&oldid=1215080854 The personal attacks have started again. Just a notice] [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|talk]]) 00:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not surprised at all that their username is a violation of the username policy with the word "bot". [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 00:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Oh yeah. I forgot to keep checking the talk page after the protection ended. I could try to keep a closer eye on the talk page. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Congrats ;) ==<br />
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You're at exactly 140,000 edits right this moment, good job ;) -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Ha, I didn't notice. I can't wait for the free gift at 150,000. I heard that this year, it's going to be a DVD of ''Highlander 2''. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Block of [[Special:Contributions/2600:1702:C0:8CA0:0:0:0:0/64]] ==<br />
I would be interested in hearing the rationale for blocking this user. Thank you. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 04:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I thought it was pretty clearly labeled: BLP violations. See, for example, [[Special:Diff/1215782576]]. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:06, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, it was clearly labeled. Perhaps I didn't clearly word my question. Let me be more specific. What was the rationale behind considering those edits to be BLP violations as opposed to good faith edits, the rationale for not warning the user, and the rationale for not notifying the user of the block on the user's talk page? Obviously, "good faith edits" is subjective, warnings are not required, and administrators should (not must) notify the user - I'm not trying to call anything out as wrong or get us in some kind of attack/defend dynamic. I'm just curious about your process, as it is very different from my own. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 15:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: It's a range block. There's no talk page for an IP range. Blocked editors see instructions and links on how to proceed – I think [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext]]. It's been a while since I looked at the internals of [[MediaWiki]]; there may be additional pages or a different one for IP addresses. But the point is that they're not left adrift with no instructions on how to request an unblock. The reason why I didn't leave a block notice on one of the IP addresses on that IP range is that it's pointless. ISPs rapidly cycle the addresses allocated to customers, so the customer is going to be on a different IP address by the time they try to next edit.<p> On some rather frustrating ISPs, customers on IPv6 addresses will rarely see ''any'' messages. Though some people take this to mean ''all'' messages to IPv6 editors are pointless, I don't believe that. The reason why this editor didn't get warned, though, is because they've already gotten a final warning on [[Special:Permalink/927228667]] and was previously blocked for the same issue. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that this was several years ago, which is a bit embarrassing because I didn't think my vision was that bad yet. Despite having recently increased the size of my font, I may have to do it again. Regardless, it's still the same person and still the same disruptive edits.<p> As far as good faith edits go, almost every edit on Wikipedia is made in good faith. The only ones that aren't are from vandals and trolls. When it comes to sensitive articles, I've come to believe that Wikipedia needs to tell more people, "Thank you, but we don't need your help." When you repeatedly add unsourced biographical information to Wikipedia articles – and even ''remove sources'' – I think that's a pretty big net negative. The last thing that Wikipedia needs is more people inventing full names, birth dates, and marriages for living people. [[WP:DOB]] is pretty clear that there are privacy issues involved. This isn't the sort of thing that you can just make a best-guess at and say, "My bad!" if you're wrong.<p> I have personally seen my Wikipedia edits show up in [[CNN]] articles, reported as if they were fact. Well, they were facts, but that's not the point. People credulously copy-paste content from Wikipedia into reliable sources, and it gets replicated elsewhere. Suddenly, it's all over the place, and impeccable sources are saying that it's true. Except that the celebrity is posting to their official social media, "Hey, that's not true." But people keep re-adding it to Wikipedia because CNN says it's true.<p> Many people see access the Wikipedia as some kind of human right. I think that's grandiose – Wikipedia is probably 50% "in popular culture" sections – but it's quite understandable. In a post-truth world, sources like Wikipedia are important. But, in my opinion, having the ability to ''edit'' Wikipedia is not anything like a human right. I'm not saying that you see editing Wikipedia like that, but it's a feeling I get sometimes from the community. Like being blocked is some kind of horrible personal hardship. I used to live next door to a crack house. I think my definition of "personal hardship" is a bit off from the majority of Wikipedians.<p> Sorry, I was thinking about this recently. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Thank you for that thorough and informative answer. I appreciate the time you took to explain it and I wish you luck with your eyesight. Eat a lot of carrots. Unless that's an old wives' tale. But even if it is, carrots are still tasty. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 20:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Article request Corn Kidz 64 ==<br />
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Can you create an article ''Goat Kidz 64'' on Wikipedia please. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 05:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [https://www.metacritic.com/game/corn-kidz-64/ this one]? Sadly, there's no coverage in [[WP:VG/RS|reliable sources]], so it would just get deleted. You could potentially squeak through with just three professional reviews, but I generally prefer to have four. They'd have to be big names, like ''[[IGN]]'', ''[[Rock Paper Shotgun]]'', ''[[PC Gamer]]'', etc. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 14:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::There is more reliable sources now! Can you add pages like ''Super Kiwi 64 '' just like indie games when reliable sources Siactro games please. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 03:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::How but this, is this a [https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/03/corn-kidz-64-brings-n64-inspired-3d-platforming-to-switch-this-april good one]. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 03:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Addition to partial block ==<br />
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Can you add another article to the rangeblock on [[Special:Contributions/174.247.80.0/20]]? That person has been disrupting the [[AJ McLean]] biography since January, inserting a false girlfriend. Thanks in advance. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 03:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Semiprotected for a month. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Just wanted to show some appreciation for your enormous body of work on articles relating to independent video games. Almost constantly I go to see if an article has been made on a new game to find you have started and published it! The tracker you have developed is also a great resource. [[User:Vrxces|ＶＲＸＣＥＳ]] ([[User talk:Vrxces|talk]]) 09:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks. I've been slacking off lately, but I think I'll get back into it again soon. I guess I needed a break. I think I got most of the notable 2023 video games at least catalogued, though. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Q ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate--you're pretty clever with technology and all that. How are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.61.240.174 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/100.33.156.32 this] the work of the same editor? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: It looks like [[Special:Contributions/103.61.240.174]] is a p2p proxy. My understanding is that these are basically proxies hosted on residential IP addresses. There's a bot that goes around blocking p2p proxies, but it doesn't get them all. There's some information at {{tl|Blocked p2p proxy}}, but I don't think there's ever been a write-up or anything at the CU wiki. Someone should probably do that, but I'm not really sure I know enough to write credibly on the topic. A lot of my knowledge is getting kind of dated these days. My sister was laughing at me because I still use a 7 year old smartphone, and it's slowly dying. I think I need to finally upgrade. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I just replaced my 2017 Samsung phone :( -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 16:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks--I'll have a look at that. It's really quite complicated for simpletons like me. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 17:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] You thought 2017 was bad? Well, after nearly 8 years, I had to get a OnePlus Nord N200 5G (not happy with it at all) after replacing my Samsung Galaxy J7. I know the new phone looks good, but trust me. I would rather have gone with the flagship models. My old phone specifically had a horrible battery life, lasting only like 10 hours on a single charge. Pathetic for me. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 18:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Drmies}} ah, there is something at the CU wiki. See [https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Residential_proxies this page].<p> My sister likes Samsung phones, but she uses the high end foldable stuff that's probably got better stats than my laptop. I'm not that fancy, but I am looking at some of the pricey phones. The Samsung S24 and Pixel 8 Pro are probably within my price range, mostly because they're advertising 7 years of support. If I could go another 7 years without upgrading, that'd be really nice. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I have an S23. The battery lasts forever.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::@[[User:Ponyo|Ponyo]] Wait, wait wait wait. Forever? As in like, 8 days or something? Trust me, my phone only lasts for 3 days on a charge so far. But again, that can be attributed to the phone only having a Snapdragon 480 and an Adreno 619 GPU. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I just replaced my Galaxy S8+ due to Android 9 support being dropped in some apps I need. I went with the Pixel 8 Pro. A few things to get used to leaving the Samsung ecosystem but no more weird Samsung stuff either. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::Meh. In my opinion, OnePlus is definitely a good company. If you're looking for a good phone, probably try going for the OnePlus 12. I've heard their SoC, which is supposed to be a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, is perfect for intensive apps and gaming. I'm not a fan of Samsung nowadays, especially with that weird design of the Z Flip. Easy fragility. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Pixels win the game for cameras generally (Tho Samsung is right there too) and I wanted the best camera I could get right now. I also wanted a stock Android experience this time around. Bixby is a curse. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I can agree with that. The battery on the other hand, though? Well, OnePlus easily takes the cake for that. I was watching a video once about the OnePlus 12's battery life, and it stayed at 100% for over 30 minutes. My jaw actually dropped. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I've never had any battery issues myself so I wasn't really worried, any flagship model would essentially meet my needs. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Optimization is key, I guess. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: Yeah, anything would be a big improvement over what I was previously using – a [[Moto X4]]. It's got 3GB RAM and 32GB storage, which was fine at first. I mostly used it for various 2FA apps and to configure routers and such. Then I installed a few games and got a dog. Now I want a nice camera and decent performance. Speaking of which, the Pixel 8 really doesn't score very well on [[Geekbench]], which is a bit surprising. The OnePlus seems to do really well, though. Might be worth a look. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 01:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Oh you got a dog! Cute. I have one I'm trying to get rid of--please come on by. I want a possum. You know, I know a Wikipedia editor who's taken care of stray ferrets. No, not you, {{U|ferret}}. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::I do have a rescue ferret though. Lil' guy. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::OK Ferret that makes me like you even more. No, it's an editor we banned, but I love him. Anyway, there might be a pattern here. Ferret has a ferret, and {{U|Tedder}} might well have a [[tedder]]. And Ponyo likes ham? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::(A wild Tedder suddenly appears). No tedders at the Tedder compound, unfortunately. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 02:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::Good to see you again, {{U|Tedder}}. I remember working on your article fondly. By now you could have been owning a farm, you know. There was an editor at the time you were chatting with, and their username was some computer or coding thing--for months or longer I tried to look for a way to get them up at DYK, but unsuccessfully. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::Ah, that editor was Bob Datacenter. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 04:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::I can't believe I used to have two pet fish when I was a little kid. I had a goldfish and a tetra with red eyes. Well, obviously the goldfish didn't survive, but the tetra did. One fish, two fish, red-eyed fish, goldfish (I know, it's a pathetic joke from the Dr. Seuss book). [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 02:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: [[:File:Caucasion Shepherd roll.webm|A short clip of my dog]]. She likes wearing her glowing pink collar at night. I had to convert it, but I tried to preserve as much quality as possible. I don't want to spam Commons with pics of my dog, which would probably get me in trouble, but she's quite photogenic. I think she's around {{convert|100|lb}} in this video. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== About [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ==<br />
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I don't think Betty Logan isn't real, She is another sockpuppet by of [[User:Megastar7|Megastar7]]. If you should mind you could block her for being made by [[User:Megastar7|Megastar7]]? [[User:MLJ 657|MLJ 657]] ([[User talk:MLJ 657|talk]]) 19:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I think it's more likely that she's secretly a superhero. Or a space alien sent to infiltrate humanity. Or maybe an alien superhero. I don't really see how she could be a sock puppet of anyone. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we are all Betty. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocking Chimpmunkdavis ==<br />
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Can you please block Chimpmunkdavis for 3 months? [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocking Bringingthewood ==<br />
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He edited my [[Don Quijote (store)|Don Quijote]] page again! Please block that user! [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] I have a feeling this user might be a sock trying to get revenge on other users for reverting their unexplained content removal. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 02:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Block that user that reverted my page! [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::::No clue who it is, but they finally explained their content removal. There would be nobody left if we got blocked over something like this, lol. [[User:Bringingthewood|Bringingthewood]] ([[User talk:Bringingthewood|talk]]) 02:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism-only account ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malvin_nzondo_._S Every single edit] thus far has been to vandalize articles related to comic books. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 23:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: The editor looks to be young but reasonably constructive on Commons. I wonder if it could accidental. I doubt most people are as clumsy as me when it comes to using mobile devices, but I could see myself making accidental edits like that if I weren't being careful. I gave a level 3 warning for vandalism. If it keeps up, I'll block. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for taking a look! [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 15:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== UTRS #87676 ==<br />
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Please see [[:utrs:87676]] regarding a block for which you directed appeals to UTRS. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 06:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: That's to stop a racist troll. It's been discussed on the CU mailing list, and harsh range blocks were pretty much the only solution I could come up with. If someone seems like they're a reasonably normal human being, and not a 14-year-old psychopath, I'd say account creators should let them through. On a block like this, a lot of people will just give up and assume that they're "banned for life" by corrupt moderators. UTRS is a way for them to speak to a real human instead of reading Wikipedia help pages. And nobody ever reads the help pages. In the case that I've typed in the wrong IP range (it happens), they also need a way for someone to do a sanity check. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Las Vegas Sands ==<br />
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Can you please block Eparcells for 8 months? [[Special:Contributions/114.122.15.40|114.122.15.40]] ([[User talk:114.122.15.40|talk]]) 06:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== FYI: [[Talk:Paramount Pictures]] ==<br />
Someone apparently trying to hijack [[Larryboy: The Cartoon Adventures]] to a Japanese anime w/ the same name left this on {{diff||1222331113|1213005435|Talk:Paramount Pictures (diff)}} apparently copy/pasting one of your posts. Not sure if I should do something about it. Cheers [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 18:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, I saw. I didn't really want to deal with it, but I did a short range block now. It looks like there's been recurring disruption and hoaxes on this IP range. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User_talk:Guerino_Symons]] ==<br />
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You probably know, but FYI that is [[User:Hamish Ross]]. v/r - <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Seawolf35|Seawolf35]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[User talk:Seawolf35|'''''T''''']]--[[Special:Contributions/Seawolf35|'''''C''''']]</sup> 02:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: No, I wasn't aware of that, actually. I don't think I've run into that one often enough (or recently enough) for it to stick in my mind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Dumbo lead section ==<br />
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I don't understand why you reverted my edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1223432463 (diff)]. <br />
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I thought I explained my changes clearly and that the text I was restoring based on the GA reviewed version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&oldid=969092639] of the article was better than directly mentioning Rotten Tomatoes in the lead section (and some of the other lead section changes seemed like the kind of [[WP:SYNTH]] problems that [[WP:FILMLEAD]] warns against.) -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.198.112|109.76.198.112]] ([[User talk:109.76.198.112|talk]]) 05:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Your edit summary seemed to suggest you thought my changes were not sourced. I assumed that the text from the GA reviewed version had been sourced but that per [[MOS:LEADCITE]] those citations did not need to be repeated in the lead section. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.198.112|109.76.198.112]] ([[User talk:109.76.198.112|talk]]) 05:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: The point of that section of the MOS is that summarizing the critical consensus requires a source. Making up your own summary is synthesis. It's also completely unnecessary. There are websites out there dedicated to summarizing the critical consensus of films, and it's typically easy to find a citation to ''Variety'' for major Hollywood productions. Quoting Rotten Tomatoes could not possibly be "undue weight". It's a juggernaut in the film industry, and studios have complained a poor rating can kill their blockbusters.<p> It also satisfies the MOS requirements by sourcing the critical consensus. There is no citation for what critics thought about the film in the article except for Rotten Tomatoes. So, this is new information that needs to be sourced properly. The MOS never prohibits citations in the lead, by the way. It just says that they're not necessary ''if it's already sourced'' elsewhere. If we had were already citing an article from ''Variety'' that came to that conclusion, it'd be fine to say in the lead without a citation. I do favor citations for direct quotations, though, if only because it's easier to verify what the quotation is when [[Special:Diff/1222057528|someone inevitably changes it]].<p> The film also did not receive mixed reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. A 46% rating on Rotten Tomatoes is "rotten". American film criticism sometimes follows ''[[Siskel and Ebert]]'', which used a binary "yes or no" system. Some people have criticized this aspect of Rotten Tomatoes, but it's simply how the site operates. We can't just ignore how the site works simply because it might not work the way we want it to work. Ignoring the "rotten" score on Rotten Tomatoes in favor of the conclusions reached by a different aggregator (Metacritic) is ironically a pretty good example of undue weight. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: I'm glad you've given it plenty of thought but putting even more emphasis on the Rotten Tomatoes isn't ideal either, it's a very reductive site. I think we're both trying to [[WP:SYNTH|avoid synthesis]] but from slightly different perspectives. Anytime I see parentheticals in the lead section -- a section that is supposed to be summarizing -- the alarm bells go off and your changes were better than that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1216453041 (diff)] but reverting to the GA version seemed better than highlighting a site as flawed as Rotten Tomatoes (if it was forced to highlight any specific publication in the lead section it would be Variety.) I think it is possible to summarize the critical response briefly and generically without synthesis but what I see as basic editing you might see different. I know that Rotten Tomatoes calls anything less than 60% rotten, which is synonymous with negative, but when the GA reviewed version said mixed and Metacritic says mixed and Rotten Tomatoes says 44% I don't think it is unreasonable to summarize that as mixed. You say we shouldn't ''ignore Rotten Tomatoes'' but we shouldn't ignore Metacritic either, so on balance and for the purposes of the lead section quickly summarizing for readers I still think having a very wide band summarized as mixed was reasonable, and that seemed to be the consensus at the time the article was GA reviewed. <br />
::: Rotten Tomatoes sucks, but I suppose I can reluctantly agree it is less worse than the synthesis you were replacing, so thanks for clarifying. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.196.99|109.76.196.99]] ([[User talk:109.76.196.99|talk]]) 17:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: I don't really care if its methods are reductive. What's compelling to me is whether reliable sources treat it like the gold standard. If they suddenly stop caring about Rotten Tomatoes, so do I. If I cared more about the topic area, I might have opinions of my own, but I don't really. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 04:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Disruptive editor at Top Thrill 2 ==<br />
*{{pagelinks|Top Thrill 2}}<br />
So we have a case of subtle vandalism that initially appeared to be a simple content dispute at first. It was discussed at [[Talk:Top Thrill 2#Manufacturer|the talk page]] as you would expect, and then they disengaged and resorted to occasional disruption that continues to trickle in from time to time. Several editors have been involved now, and [[User talk:Daniel Quinlan#Rapidly changing IP|a page protection request I submitted was denied]]. Is an ANI discussion resulting in an IP range block really the next move here? This editor isn't seeing any warnings. What's your advice at this point? Thanks in advance as always. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 16:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Forgot to mention, this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&curid=712654&diff=1224744594&oldid=1224024512 latest edit] by the IP is yet another case of disruption. The coaster is not under construction, and they KNOW that. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 16:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Is this the same person from [[Special:Permalink/981180039#Cedar Point]]? It's a bit difficult for me to understand exactly what's going on here, but the IP's edits don't look like blatant vandalism. Sometimes edits fall somewhere under the banner of "not exactly correct", which makes it difficult to deal with. Most of Wikipedia's policies are only applicable to vandalism and blatant misinformation. If something even ''sounds'' plausible, you're usually told to resort to dispute resolution. And then you get the "[[Wikipedia:Randy in Boise|Randy in Boise]]" thing.<p> I dunno. I guess I'm not really fond of the whole "Randy in Boise" situation, which makes me more likely to take action on stuff that other admins might not. But if this is the same editor as before, I think a partial block might be justifiable even after such a long time. Or at least a warning of some kind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 18:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Appreciate the feedback. It hadn't even occurred to me that it might be the same editor, but the IP does geolocate to the same "Verizon Business" carrier in Cincinnati, so it ''could'' be possibly? Hard to say. I'm open to suggestions. I could even step away for a bit from that article. Nothing they're doing is all that drastic at the moment. The edits are mostly an improper understanding of how the parameters are used in the infobox. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1223921140 This] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1224001182 this] had to do with trying to force a "closing date" which is only for permanent closures, and note the second attempt how they copied [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1223965421 my edit summary]. Not sure if that was a form of trolling or what. If you comb through their other edits, there are other similar examples of fighting the manufacturer and now this new issue regarding the "status". Just odd. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 18:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::After giving it more thought, let's stick a pin in it for now. The disruption (or whatever we want to classify it as at this point) seems to have waned a bit in recent days. Thanks. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 14:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::: Well, if the situation has resolved itself, that would be nice. I wasn't really sure what to do next, if anything, anyway. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 14:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Sock? ==<br />
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Hi, would you be willing to check if [[Special:Contribs/Twinkmunt|<this user>]] who is giving some bad(like advising an user to commit meat puppetry: [[Special:Diff/1224935379|diff]]), and some other questionable advice at Teahouse, is a sock? It reminds me very strongly of [[Special:Contributions/Mrffcknt|<another sock>]] who's sockpuppeteer I do not know, who also advised meatpuppetry back then (maybe the username is in a similar vein too, now that I think about it).<br />
&ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F|2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F|talk]]) 03:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that would be [[User:Architect 134]]. He trolls people in the Teahouse or other highly visible places using usernames that reference female anatomy. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Damn, I was assuming good faith for a second there... [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) 03:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Removal of Darkcastle.com from Spam-blacklist ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I'm trying to update the article about the company, but I am having some trouble because the company website, www.darkcastle.com, is on the Wikipedia spam-blacklist. Darkcastle.com was once a spam website that was unconnected to Dark Castle Entertainment, but the company claimed the site several years ago, and it is now a legit website with details about the production company. I posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals| on the proposed removal site] to get darkcastle.com removed from the blacklist, but so far no one has responded to my request. I see that you are an admin and a member of [[WP:HORROR]]. As Dark Castle has produced many horror films, I'm hoping you'll consider removing the site from the blacklist so we can then properly request COI edits to the article. Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Wow, there's almost nothing that links to this website, and the [[WHOIS]] data is anonymous. Seems a bit sketchy to say the least, but I guess it can't hurt. Just don't replace all the content with a bunch of malware, or we'll both look a bit silly. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 18:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, NinjaRobotPirate. Don't worry, I am doing my best to stick to wiki policies. You can see my request [[Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment# Proposed updates|here]]. If you notice any issues, feel free to point them out. Thanks for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Castle_Entertainment&diff=1225299037Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment2024-05-23T15:35:03Z<p>DJ for Katz: </p>
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit table==<br />
"Mio." is not a well-known abbreviation for "million".<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Proposed updates ==<br />
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Hi, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I noticed that the current page is outdated and is lacking a number of sources. In order to update the information on the page while simultaneously adding the missing citations and removing unsourced material, I thought it would be easiest to propose a rewrite of the article. You can see my suggestions by clicking below.<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO, <br />
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Norman Golightly, co-CEO, <br />
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Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
}}<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
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|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
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|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
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|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
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|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
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|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
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|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
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|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
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|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
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|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
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|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
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|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
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|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
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|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
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| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
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(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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==''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''==<br />
''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]'' is from [[After Dark Films]], not [[Warner Bros.]] --[[User:J. Fanning|J. Fanning]] ([[User talk:J. Fanning|talk]]) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== key people ==<br />
Susan Downey quit Dark Castle over a year ago, replaced by Andrew Rona. [[User:Bustter|Bustter]] ([[User talk:Bustter|talk]]) 21:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Added "ROI" because movies are business and the return to the investors is what really drives production decisions. Quite a few of the movies from this production house are pretty low-brow, pulpy films but their financial success cannot be argued. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.178.49.17|69.178.49.17]] ([[User talk:69.178.49.17|talk]]) 18:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Dark Castle's TV show ==<br />
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Did anyone know that Dark Castle Entertainment has its first TV shows called ''The Expecting''? [[User:Nikon1803|NIKO]] ([[User talk:Nikon1803|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Dark Castle Entertainment<br />
| logo = DarkCastlelogo.svg<br />
| logo_caption = Logo used since 2024<br />
| type = Private<br />
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1998}}<br />
| industry = Entertainment<br />
| hq_location_city = [[Beverly Hills, California]] <ref>{{Cite web |title=Dark Castle Entertainment {{!}} LinkedIn |url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/dark-castle-entertainment |website=www.linkedin.com |language=en}}</ref><br />
| key_people = Hal Sadoff, co-CEO, <br />
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Norman Golightly, co-CEO, <br />
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Douglas McClure, Executive Vice President<br />
| products = Motion Pictures, television<br />
| parent = [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
| website = https://darkcastle.com<br />
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Dark Castle Entertainment is a film, TV, and digital projects production label.<ref name=Hipes2>{{Cite News|last=Hipes|first=Partick|title=Joel Silver Teams With Financier Daryl Katz, Launches New Company; Hal Sadoff CEO|url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/|date=April 27, 2015|website=Deadline}}</ref> It is owned by North American sports and entertainment company, [[OEG Inc.]]<ref name=Fisher>{{Cite news|last=Fisher|first=Eric|title=The Next Chapter for Daryl Katz and OEG|url= https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/feature-the-next-chapter-for-daryl-katz-and-oeg-343192364|date=April 6, 2023|website=NHL.com}}</ref> The firm is led by co-CEOs Hal Sadoff<ref name=Hipes>{{Cite news|last=Hipes|first=Patrick|title=Simon Barrett-Helmed Horror Pic 'Seance' Scores U.S. Deal Via RJLE Films And Shudder; IFC Films Scare up Right To 'Werewolves Within' – Film Briefs|url= https://deadline.com/2021/02/seance-release-date-werewolves-within-deals-1234701534/|date=February 25, 2021|website=Deadline}}</ref> and Norman Golightly.<ref>{{Cite news|title=Norman Golightly|url= https://darkcastle.com/about-us/norman-golightly|website=Dark Castle}}</ref><br />
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The company has worked with directors such as [[Guy Ritchie]], <ref name=Stone>{{cite news|last=Stone|first=Jay|title=Ritchie swept away by films|url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/330021666/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20%22RocknRolla%22%20action&match=1|newspaper=Harbour City Star|date=September 10, 2008|page=B3|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> [[Shane Black]],<ref>{{Citation |last=Black |first=Shane |title=The Nice Guys |date=2016-05-20 |type=Action, Comedy, Crime |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3799694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_The%2520Nice%2520Guys | others=Russell Crowe, Ryan Gosling, Angourie Rice |publisher=Warner Bros., Silver Pictures, Waypoint Entertainment}}</ref> [[George Clooney]]<ref name=Rooney>{{Cite news|last=Rooney|first=David|title='Suburbicon': Film Review |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/suburbicon-venice-2017-1034831/|date=September 2, 2017|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref>, [[Mary Harron]],<ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref>, [[Walter Hill]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Kilday|first=Gregg|title=Joel Silver's Dark Castle Boards Sylvester Stallone Action Film|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/joel-silvers-dark-castle-boards-196950/|date=June 10, 2011|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref> and [[Simon Barrett]].<ref name=Wiseman>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Suki Waterhouse To Star In Horror 'Seance' For Dark Castle Entertainment, HanWay & Ingenious – AFM|url=https://deadline.com/2019/10/suki-waterhouse-seance-dark-castle-hanway-ingenious-1202765981/|date=October 22, 2019|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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The majority of Dark Castle films from the late 1990’s to mid 2010’s were distributed by [[Warner Bros. Pictures]].<ref name=Garrahan>{{Cite news|last=Garrahan|first=Matthew|title=The Matrix: Recapitalised|url= https://www.ft.com/content/f0eaa77a-8c5c-11db-9684-0000779e2340|date=December 17, 2006|website=Financial Times}}</ref> The company’s later films have also been distributed by [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman>{{Cite news|last=Chapman|first=Wilson|title='Orphan: First Kill' Trailer: Isabelle Fuhrman Rerturns as Esther in Long-Awaited Horror Prequel|url= https://variety.com/2022/film/news/orphan-first-kill-trailer-isabelle-fuhrman-1235313511/|date=July 13, 2022|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Shudder (streaming service)|Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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==History==<br />
===1998 — 2003: Homage to William Castle, the early years===<br />
Dark Castle was founded in 1998<ref>{{Cite news|last=Caddell|first=Ian|title=Dark Castle strikes out on its own|url=https://www.straight.com/article-77781/dark-castle-strikes-out-on-its-own|date=March 28, 2007|website=The Georgia Straight}}</ref> by [[Joel Silver]], [[Robert Zemeckis]], and [[Gilbert Adler]].<ref name=Roxborough>{{Cite news|last=Roxborough|first=Scott|title=Egyptian Star Mohamed Karim, Dark Castle Team on Horror Film 'Book of Chaos'(Exclusive)|url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-castle-mohamed-karim-egypt-horror-film-book-chaos-1235058203/|date=December 7, 2021|website=Hollywood Reporter}}</ref><br />
The Dark Castle name pays homage to [[William Castle]], a 1950’s horror filmmaker from the 1950s and 1960s.<ref name=Garrahan/> When first formed, the goal of the company was to remake Castle’s [[horror films]]. After two remakes, [[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Carver|first=Benedict|title=Oh, the horror!|url= https://web.archive.org/web/20230429224413/https://variety.com/1999/film/news/oh-the-horror-1117490262/|date=January 14, 1999|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Thirteen Ghosts]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Valle|first=Avi|title=Thirteen Ghosts Set to be Revived as New 13-Part Spook Filled Series|url= https://movieweb.com/thirteen-ghosts-set-to-be-revived-as-new-13-part-spook-filled-series/|date=August 13, 2023|website=Movie Web}}</ref> they moved on to producing original material,<ref name= Craft>{{cite news|last=Craft|first=Dan|title=Lunatics running this wacko movie asylum|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/75745496/|newspaper=[[The Pantagraph]]|date=November 29, 2003|page=D8|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> along with remakes of non-Castle films.<ref name=Guthrie>{{Cite news|last=Guthrie|first=Luna|title=2005’s 'House of Wax' Introduced Us to Classic Horror While Ushering In a New Era|url= https://collider.com/house-of-wax-movie-2005/|date=June 14, 2023|website=Collider}}</ref><br />
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===2003 — 2013: More horror, action=== <br />
[[Gothika]], starring [[Halle Berry]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], was Dark Castle’s first original film in 2003.<ref name=Craft/>They followed it up with [[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]], the company’s first remake of a non-Castle film.<ref name=Roxborough/><ref name=Guthrie/><br />
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In 2008, the company moved beyond the horror genre to produce the action film [[RocknRolla]].<ref name=Stone/><br />
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Dark Castle released [[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]], a psychological horror film, in 2009.<ref>{{cite news|last=Rodriguez|first=Rene|title=Modest little picture’s a frightful romp|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/658532191/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Orphan&match=1|newspaper=[[Miami Herald]]|date=October 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref> The film grossed $80 million on a $20 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Donnelly|first=Matt|title='Orphan' Prequel Enlists Isabelle Fuhrman to Reprise Role of Esther (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2020/film/news/isabelle-fuhrman-returns-orphan-esther-prequel-1234821754/|date=November 2, 2020|website=Variety}}</ref> The company produced its first martial arts film, [[Ninja Assassin]], later that year.<ref>{{cite news|last=Fritz|first=Ben|title='Blind Side No. 2 but takes spotlight from 'New Moon'|url= https://www.newspapers.com/image/193412887/?terms=%22Dark%20Castle%20Entertainment%22%20Ninja%20Assassin&match=1|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=November 30, 2009|page=20G|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}</ref><br />
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In 2010, they produced action film adaptions of [[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]] based on the [[DC Vertigo]] comic of the same name,<ref>{{Cite news|last=Debruge|first=Peter|title=The Losers|url= https://variety.com/2010/film/reviews/the-losers-1117942597/|date=April 21, 2010|website=Variety}}</ref> and [[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]] starring [[Liam Neeson]], which grossed $136 million against its $30 million budget.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Andreeva|first=Nellie|title='Unknown' Series Sequel To Movie In Works At TNT With Liam Neeson Producing, Jaume Collet-Serra Directing|url= https://deadline.com/2021/06/unknown-series-sequel-tnt-liam-neeson-jaume-collet-serra-1234783139/|date=June 29, 2021|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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After a long relationship with Warner Bros. Pictures as their main distributor,<ref name=Garrahan/> Dark Castle began working with other distributors including [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref name=Chapman/>and [[Shudder (streaming service) |Shudder/AMC]].<ref name=Hipes/><br />
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===2015—Present: New ownership and commercial success===<br />
Dark Castle was acquired by [[Daryl Katz]] of OEG Inc. in 2015.<ref name=Hipes2/><ref name=Fisher/>Hal Sadoff was named CEO.<ref name=Hipes2/><br />
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The company released its first film under OEG the following year, [[neo noir]] comedy crime movie [[The Nice Guys]], starring [[Russel Crowe]] and [[Ryan Gosling]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=The Nice Guys|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/the-nice-guys|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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Next, Dark Castle produced [[black comedy]] crime film [[Suburbicon]] written by the [[Coen Brothers]], directed by [[George Clooney]], starring [[Matt Damon]] and [[Julianne Moore]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Truitt|first=Brian|title=Review:George Clooney’s messy 'Suburbicon' disappoints as a retro dark comedy|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/10/24/review-george-clooneys-messy-suburbicon-disappoints-retro-dark-comedy/793280001/|date=October 24, 2017|website=USA Today}}</ref><ref name= Rooney/><br />
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In 2018, Dark Castle produced [[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]],<ref>{{Cite news|title=Superfly|url=https://darkcastle.com/films/superfly|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref> a remake of the 1972 film [[Super Fly (1972 film)|Super Fly]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=McNary|first=Dave|title=Film News Roundup: Sony Opening Crime Thriller 'Superfly' Two Days Earlier|url=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/film-news-roundup-sony-opening-crime-thriller-superfly-two-days-earlier-1202823108/|date=May 25, 2018|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle continued to produce horror films, including [[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]], starring [[Suki Waterhouse]],<ref name=Wiseman/>and the prequel to Orphan, [[Orphan: First Kill]], starring [[Isabelle Fuhrman]] from the original Orphan movie.<ref>{{Cite news|last=D’Alessandro|first=Anthony|title=Rossif Sutherland Joins eOne &Dark Castle’s Horror Prequel ‘Orphan: First Kill’|url=https://deadline.com/2020/11/orphan-first-kill-horror-prequel-adds-rossif-sutherland-1234610509/|date=November 6, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref> In 2020, the company began producing television with the sci-fi horror series The Expecting. <ref>{{Cite news|last=Grater|first=Tom|title=Olivia Munn To Star In & Produce Action Pic 'Replay' -Cannes|url=https://deadline.com/2020/06/olivia-munn-action-pic-replay-1202957581/|date= June 12, 2020|website=Deadline}}</ref><ref>{{Citation|title=The Expecting |date=2020-10-05 |type=Short, Horror |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285470/|others=AnnaSophia Robb, Rory Culkin, Mira Sorvino |publisher=Dark Castle Entertainment, Platinum Dunes, Propagate}}</ref><br />
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Dark Castle produced Last Breath, which is based on the critically acclaimed documentary [[Last Breath (2019 film)]] and stars [[Woody Harrelson]] and [[Simu Liu]].<ref>{{Cite news|title=Last Breath|url= https://darkcastle.com/films/last-breath|website=Dark Castle.com}}</ref><br />
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In 2023, the company filmed [[Old Guy]] starring [[Christoph Waltz]],<ref>{{Cite news|last=Stephan|first=Katcy|title=The Avenue Lands North American Rights to ‘Old Guy’ (Exclusive)|url= https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-avenue-north-american-rights-old-guy-1235933125/|date=March 12, 2024|website=Variety}}</ref><br />
and financed the film Shell, starring [[Elizabeth Moss]] and [[Kate Hudson]], directed by [[Max Minghella]].<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Arian Moayed, Este Haim, Lionel Boyce, Ziwe & More Join Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber In Max Minghella’s Thriller 'Shell'(Exclusive)|url= https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arian-moayed-este-haim-lionel-210538549.html|date=February 5, 2024|website=Yahoo News}}</ref><br />
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== Filmography ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|- style="background:#b0c4de; text-align:center;"<br />
! Release date<br />
! Film<br />
! Director(s)<br />
! Distributor<br />
|-<br />
| June 10, 1989<br />
| '' [[Tales from the Crypt (TV series)|Tales from the Crypt]] ''<br />
|<br />
| [[HBO]]<br />
|-<br />
| October 29, 1999<br />
| ''[[House on Haunted Hill (1999 film)|House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[William Malone (director)|William Malone]]<br />
| |[[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 26, 2001<br />
| ''[[Thirteen Ghosts]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck (director)|Steve Beck]]<br />
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|-<br />
| October 25, 2002<br />
| ''[[Ghost Ship (2002 film)|Ghost Ship]]''<br />
| [[Steve Beck]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 21, 2003<br />
| ''[[Gothika]]''<br />
| [[Mathieu Kassovitz]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 6, 2005<br />
| ''[[House of Wax (2005 film)|House of Wax]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 5, 2007<br />
| ''[[The Reaping]]''<br />
| [[Stephen Hopkins (director)|Stephen Hopkins]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 16, 2007<br />
| ''[[Return to House on Haunted Hill]]''<br />
| [[Víctor Garcia (Spanish director)|Víctor Garcia]]<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 13, 2008<br />
| ''[[Botched (film)|Botched]]''<br />
| [[Kit Ryan]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Home Entertainment]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 8, 2008<br />
| ''[[RocknRolla]]''<br />
| [[Guy Ritchie]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 27, 2009<br />
| ''[[Echelon Conspiracy]]''<br />
| [[Greg Marcks]]<br />
| [[After Dark Films]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| July 24, 2009<br />
| ''[[Orphan (2009 film)|Orphan]]''<br />
| [[Jaume Collet-Serra]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 11, 2009<br />
| ''[[Whiteout (2009 film)|Whiteout]]''<br />
| [[Dominic Sena]]<br />
<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
| September 29, 2009<br />
| ''[[The Hills Run Red (2009 film)|The Hills Run Red]]''<br />
| Dave Parker<br />
| [[Warner Premiere]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| November 25, 2009<br />
| ''[[Ninja Assassin]]''<br />
| [[James McTeigue]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| April 23, 2010<br />
| ''[[The Losers (2010 film)|The Losers]]''<br />
| [[Sylvain White]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 4, 2010<br />
| ''[[Splice (film)|Splice]]''<br />
| [[Vincenzo Natali]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 18, 2011<br />
| ''[[Unknown (2011 film)|Unknown]]''<br />
| Jaume Collet-Serra<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 24, 2012<br />
| ''[[The Apparition (2012 film)|The Apparition]]''<br />
| Todd Lincoln<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 1, 2013<br />
| ''[[Bullet to the Head]]''<br />
| [[Walter Hill (director)|Walter Hill]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| February 19, 2013<br />
| ''[[The Factory (2012 film)|The Factory]]''<br />
| [[Morgan O'Neill]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 30, 2013<br />
| ''[[Getaway (2013 film)|Getaway]]''<br />
| [[Courtney Solomon]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 11, 2016<br />
| ''[[The Nice Guys]]''<br />
| [[Shane Black]]<br />
| [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 27, 2017<br />
| ''[[Suburbicon]]''<br />
| [[George Clooney]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| June 13, 2018<br />
| ''[[Superfly (2018 film)|Superfly]]''<br />
| [[Director X]]<br />
| [[Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| October 5, 2020<br />
| ''The Expecting''<br />
| [[Mary Harron]]<br />
| [[Quibi]]<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| May 21, 2021<br />
| ''[[Seance (2021 film)|Seance]]''<br />
| [[Simon Barrett (filmmaker)|Simon Barrett]]<br />
| [[RLJE Films]]<<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| August 19, 2022<br />
| ''[[Orphan: First Kill]]''<br />
| [[William Brent Bell]]<br />
| [[Paramount Pictures]]<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| September 2024<br />
| ''[[Old Guy]]''<br />
| [[Simon West]]<br />
| The Avenue<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Last Breath (upcoming film)]]<br />
| Alex Parkinson<ref>{{Cite news|last=Fleming Jr.|first=Mike|title=Hot Cannes Package: Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, Djimon Hounsou In ‘Last Breath,’ Alex Parkinson’s Narrative Remake of His Harrowing Docu|url= https://deadline.com/2022/05/woody-harrelson-simu-liu-djimon-honsou-last-breath-movie-based-on-alex-parkinson-documentary-cannes-market-1235018099/|date=May 6, 2022|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
| TBD<br />
<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| TBD<br />
| [[Shell (upcoming film)]]<br />
| [[Max Minghella]]<ref>{{Cite news|last=Wiseman|first=Andreas|title=Elisabeth Moss, Kate Hudson & Kaia Gerber To Star In Thriller ‘Shell’ For Director Man Minghella, Automatik & Black Bear International – Cannes Market Hot Package|url= https://deadline.com/2023/05/elisabeth-moss-kate-hudson-kaia-gerber-max-minghella-shell-cannes-market-1235355961/|date=May 4, 2023|website=Deadline}}</ref><br />
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| TBD<br />
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|}<br />
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== Lifetime grosses ==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Year<br />
! Film<br />
! Budget<br />
! Domestic Box Office<br />
! Foreign Box Office<br />
! Total<br />
! US DVD sales<br />
! Total (with DVD sales)<br />
|-<br />
| 1999<br />
| ''House on Haunted Hill''<br />
| $37 million<br />
| $40.8 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1213761025/ House on Haunted Hill (1999)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $3.5 million (A)<br />
| $44.4 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2001<br />
| ''Thirteen Ghosts''<br />
| $42 million<br />
| $41.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl507610625/weekend/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $26.6 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr140595717/ Thirteen Ghosts (2001) - International Box Office Results<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $68.5 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2002<br />
| ''Ghost Ship''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $30.1 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3411379713/ Ghost Ship (2002)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $38.2 million<ref name="Ghost Ship 2002"/><br />
| $68.3 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2003<br />
| ''Gothika''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $59.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl844596737/ Gothika (2003)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $81.7 million<ref name="Gothika 2003"/><br />
| $141.6 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2005<br />
| ''House of Wax''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $32.1 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Wax-(2005)#tab=summary House of Wax (2005)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36.7 million<ref name="House of Wax 2005"/><br />
| $68.8 million<br />
| N/A<br />
| N/A<br />
|-<br />
| 2007<br />
| ''The Reaping''<br />
| $40 million<br />
| $25.1 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl342722049/ The Reaping (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $37.6 million<ref name="The Reaping 2007"/><br />
| $62.8 million<br />
| $19.8 million<ref name="The Reaping DVD 2007">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Reaping-The#tab=summary The Reaping DVD (2007)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $82.6 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2008<br />
| ''RocknRolla''<br />
| $15 million<br />
| $5.7 million<ref>[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=rocknrolla.htm RocknRolla (2008)]</ref><br />
| $20 million<br />
| $25.7 million<br />
| $7.4 million<ref name="RocknRolla DVD 2008">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/RocknRolla#tab=summary RocknRolla DVD (2008)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $33.1 million<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Orphan''<br />
| $20 million<br />
| $41,596,251<ref name="Orphan 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Orphan-(2009)#tab=summary Orphan (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $36,741,122<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $78,337,373<br />
| $12,250,443<ref name="Orphan 2009"/><br />
| $90,587,816<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Whiteout''<br />
| $35 million<br />
| $10,275,638<ref name="Whiteout 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl310085121/ Whiteout (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $7,565,229<ref name="Whiteout 2009"/><br />
| $17,840,867<br />
| $3,192,934<ref name="Whiteout DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Whiteout#tab=summary Whiteout DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $21,033,801<br />
|-<br />
| 2009<br />
| ''Ninja Assassin''<br />
| $50 million<br />
| $38,122,883<ref name="Ninja Assassin 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1583842817/ Ninja Assassin(2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $23,471,000<br />
| $61,593,883<br />
| $13,841,623<ref name="Ninja Assassin DVD 2009">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ninja-Assassin#tab=summary Ninja Assassin DVD (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $75,435,506<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''The Losers''<br />
| $25 million<br />
| $23,591,432<ref name="The Losers 2009">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2573305345/ The Losers (2009)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $5,385,903<br />
| $28,977,335<br />
| $6,462,496<ref name="The Losers DVD 2010">[https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Losers-The#tab=summary The Losers DVD (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $35,439,831<br />
|-<br />
| 2010<br />
| ''Splice''<br />
| $30 million<br />
| $17,010,170<ref name="Splice 2010">[https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl510887425/ Splice (2010)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
| $6,964,022<br />
| $23,974,192 <br />
| $3,695,686<br />
| $27,669,878<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Budget<br />
! Overall Total<br />
! US DVD Sales<br />
! Total<br />
|-<br />
| $374 million<br />
| $646 million<br />
| $62.9 million<br />
| $708 million<br />
|}<br />
<br />
(A) Indicates minimum, as that is only two countries totals merged.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[OEG Inc.]]<br />
* [[William Castle]]<br />
* [[Susan Downey]]<br />
* [[Joel Silver]]<br />
* [[Robert Zemeckis]]<br />
* [[Warner Bros. Pictures]]<br />
* [[Columbia Pictures]]<br />
* [[Blumhouse Productions]]<br />
* [[Ghost House Pictures]]<br />
* [[Gold Circle Films]]<br />
* [[Platinum Dunes]]<br />
* [[Twisted Pictures]]<br />
* [[Bloody Disgusting]]<br />
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== What to do about editor who, IMHO, abuses privileges ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate,<br />
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I hope this is the correct way to ask, as I’m really not quite sure about the best approach. This is the first time in literally 20 years of actively editing Wikipedia that I have felt the need to reach out to an admin about another user. I selected you specifically because I discovered, while checking the user’s talk page archive, that you had already warned them once before about their dismissive, overbearing behavior, under threat of revoking their advanced permissions. (See below in archive page 11.)<br />
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I had a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=prev&oldid=1161915646 good-faith edit] (with edit summary) reverted by a user who patrols a large swath of pages. Many months later, I noticed he’d [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=next&oldid=1161915646 reverted it with a terse, undetailed edit summary]. I took a guess at what he meant and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Joo-ryoung&diff=prev&oldid=1192466635 edited again], and as a courtesy, posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&diff=prev&oldid=1192468376 a note] to that user’s talk page explaining my reasoning in greater detail. He immediately reverted my new edit, and responded to me in a tone that I found entirely inappropriate. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&oldid=1194005597 replied again] in even more detail, which is pending a response from him. (I have not attempted to edit again, pending his response.)<br />
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Looking at the user’s talk page archive, I discovered he has a history of snapping at people with unwarranted aggression and condescension after they ask for clarification (since his edit summaries are often terse and unhelpful), peppering replies with policy links and personal insults, and making a mockery of “assume good faith”. He has been admonished numerous times by other editors about his nasty attitude. This user has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=Search+all+archives+and+open+requests&fulltext=Search&prefix=Wikipedia%3ARequests+for+permissions%2F&search=Paper9oll numerous elevated privileges], and I believe he uses this position to steamroller over other editors. He shows significant “ownership” of anything to do with South Korean entertainment, demanding ''prior'' “consensus” for minor changes he disagrees with, and then refusing to engage in the discussions to achieve said consensus after reverting their edits.<br />
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In summary, I do not believe this user has the temperament needed to enjoy any elevated privileges or responsibilities, since he shows a pattern of not respecting even the most basic rules of civility, never mind practicing the collaborative ethos that underpins Wikipedia. <br />
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Examples of IMHO totally inappropriate responses:<br />
(Sorry, I couldn’t figure how to link directly to individual subheadings on a talk page archive, so the bold titles are the verbatim heading titles.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 14]]<br />
** '''Love Twist (TV Show) discussion''': “Your reply clearly shows that you didn't bothered reading my reply fully and/or exhibiting I didn't heard that. In addition, don't come bs me that this is a norm thing in Wikipedia, I'm not dumb.”<br />
** '''South Korean series on OTT''': “I tried that before, and I have been reverted before as some editors apparently tied "web series" with YouTube-style videos that are like 10–15 mins long, basically those indie drama-like videos, no point talking to them as you basically talking to a wall, they will tell you that [[web series]] stated so.” (Nb: “web series” being the thing I was editing on another page, I guess I’m one of those people there’s “no point talking to” since I disagree with him. IMHO this is a great example of his unwillingness to actually consider others’ concerns.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 13]]<br />
** '''Regarding changes made in Lee Junho's page that you reverted''': “Nice try btw! I'm not blind and certainly your comments above doesn't tally with your actions. It's your [[WP:BURDEN]] to provide [[Wikipedia:RS|reliable sources]]<nowiki/> even if it's [[WP:TRUE]] and no <q>they [doesn't] already exists within the page</q>.”<br />
** '''Reverts without explanation''': “your edits is not an improvement and is inconsistent.” (“Inconsistent” is another thing he accused me and others of, but without any explanation as to inconsistency ''with what''.)<br />
** '''Infobox''': “Already stated that clearly above twice in English, whether you understand them or not isn't my problem. And obvious, you have for the second time demonstrated in your reply that you don't know what you are even doing here and only copying others articles despite already explained clearly above, hence this means the end of our discussion as I don't see how further replies would get communicated through when you clearly demonstrated that you don't know what you are even doing and know how to say others articles exists hence you're only wasting my time. To end, you have no consensus to change and goodbye!” (Unwillingness to clarify when misunderstood, extraordinary rudeness. I also don’t think he really understands that consensus is built, not sought in advance of every edit.)<br />
** '''Nationality of Krystal Jung''': “Your changes made zero sense and has incorrect understanding/interpretation.” (He later backed down, but the tone is inappropriate IMHO.)<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 12]]<br />
** '''Re: BlackBerry Creative''': <br />
*** “Don't even try to fool me btw, all of your actions are recorded down in the Wikipedia software in case you're unaware of, and easily referred back by any editors.” <br />
*** “OMG ... you have issues understanding English or what ... pretty sure I already answered your queries clearly. To repeat as stated in my initial reply (if you even bothered reading), your edit was reverted because you didn't include any reliable source for Sunye's departure.”<br />
** '''Draft:Bull Gamma 3''': being very rude and condescending to an editor who was clearly making an effort to comply.<br />
** '''Queendom Puzzle''': showing impatience with non-native speaker.<br />
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*[[User talk:Paper9oll/Archive 11]]<br />
** '''Your edits''': You threatened to revoke his advanced user permissions with the warning: <br />
***“Maybe you're willing to talk to ''me'', then. I'm thinking about taking away your advanced user permissions. Can you reassure me that you actually do read the sources when you revert edits that purport to remove defamatory content? Or are you just blindly reverting IP editors because you don't trust them?”<br />
*** “You need to be less dismissive of people's concerns when they come to your talk page. I sincerely hope that you're reading the sources when you revert an edit and not just reverting because the edit looks suspicious.” <br />
:::(So by this point, 9 months ago, he’d already been getting a reputation of being dismissive.)<br />
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And so on and so forth, on every archive page there are more examples of this behavior. He is clearly angering and scaring off other editors (they’ve said so in the talk pages) with his uncooperative, impatient, condescending attitude, and I think it at least bears investigation by an admin. <br />
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Thank you for looking into this. I don’t want or intend to get into an edit war with him, but the fact that this seems to be a ''pattern'' of bully-like behavior compelled me to bring this to your attention. <br />
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Best regards and happy new year, — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 04:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I can take a look at it, but it'll probably have to wait until tomorrow. It's getting pretty late here. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 04:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Of course, much appreciated! I’d much prefer you take your time to research as thoroughly as you feel is needed, rather than to rush to action.<br />
::FYI, he has since replied (without addressing my concerns in any way, stating that his mind will not change and that I should take it to the relevant wiki project talk page), to which I replied [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paper9oll&diff=prev&oldid=1194151087 here]. <br />
::Regards, <br />
::— [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 13:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::He and I have since had one more round of replies, and we’ve at least reached a place to move forward on the contentious edit. I did take the liberty of giving some really calmly-worded feedback on his communication style, since I sincerely believe he comes across as harsher than intended. I do, however, stand by my opinion that admin review of his advanced permissions is warranted, just because it’s been such a pattern of inappropriate behavior. (Even if his wording were super-tactful, I still feel that he doesn’t automatically give other editors the patience and chance for actual collaboration that they deserve, e.g. by reverting without providing substantive explanations, and by reverting for “no consensus” before giving any chance for consensus to be formed.) Thanks again, — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 21:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, edit warring due to "no consensus" (in other words, "[[Wikipedia:I just don't like it|I just don't like it]]") is still edit warring. If someone edit wars using [[WP:rollback|rollback]], that's grounds for removing it. That's for using that specific user right, though, which leaves the tag "rollback" as in [[Special:Diff/1194090415|this edit]]. Notice how it says "tag: rollback". Now, an edit that uses a ''rollback-like'' feature, such as [[WP:Twinkle|Twinkle]] doesn't count for this. Notice how [[Special:Diff/1191209117|this edit]] has a rollback-like edit summary, but it's using Twinkle (and thus, there's no "tag: rollback"). Refusing to communicate or engage in consensus-building is [[WP:DISRUPTSIGNS|considered disruptive]]. It looks like you're making some progress, though, even if it's small steps. I can leave a message on [[User talk:Paper9oll]] ''again'', and maybe that'll help. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, I am also pleased that some progress was made.<br />
::::I leave it in your best judgment to review his talk history and edit history and determine what, if any, concrete actions need to be taken. (Please review my discussion with him first.) To be crystal clear, my “dream outcome” would be that he stays engaged and enthusiastic, but just bites his tongue a bit more often, and maybe chooses to hesitate a bit more before smashing the “revert” button, but also engages in productive discussions more readily, treating other editors as peers, not subjects, whose concerns are given earnest consideration, without instantly clobbering them with policy and threats to report them for violating it.<br />
::::I also realized that my title for this talk thread, written as a draft and then forgot to refine, is not quite accurate: it’s not so much that he abused the permissions per se, but rather that I don’t think someone with his reactive temperament is necessarily the kind of user that should have those privileges. I think having these permissions confers a perceived seniority that can intimidate many users and make them hesitant to respond, and I think users with advanced privileges also have a certain “ambassador” role that begins with exhibiting exemplary behavior. (Years ago I was a moderator, later admin, of a forum with 60K active users, so this may color my expectations of what a user with special permissions should behave like.) <br />
::::I also welcome any feedback you may have on how I handled the situation. I did my best but am always happy to improve. <br />
::::Thanks again for your time, and I hope you have a great day. — [[User:tooki|tooki]] ([[User_talk:tooki|talk]]) 02:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Precious anniversary ==<br />
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==You've got mail!==<br />
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: Yeah, I saw. This kind of petty harassment comes with the job, I guess. I already requested a global lock. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Reporting disruptive editor ==<br />
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Do you remember back in April of last year that I [[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate/Archive2023-1#Reporting disruptive editor|reported]] this editor for making unexplained changes in articles and you blocked them for a year? It appears that the editor has evaded their block and is still making questionable edits to articles [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodeo_%28Travis_Scott_album%29&diff=1196310009&oldid=1194628162] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_a_Perfect_World...&diff=1196096366&oldid=1192420407] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=For_All_the_Dogs&diff=1195963853&oldid=1195349259]. [[User:TheAmazingPeanuts|TheAmazingPeanuts]] ([[User talk:TheAmazingPeanuts|talk]]) 03:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I did a 6 month soft block on [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C56:7600:0:0:0:0:0/40]]. I guess we'll see what happens after that. I can disable account creation or try longer, targeted range blocks, but it seems like the edits are happening on a wider range than I initially thought. Thank you for including a link to the previous discussion. This stuff is often difficult for me to remember. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Neutral 3rd party needed on Roger Ver Biography article ==<br />
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Hi there NinjaRobotPirate. I have edited Wikipedia before but am not a professional. I don't know if my pinging you in another article would be seen so I decided to make this note in your talk page as well.<br/> First of all, I know that my edits are not perfect and I welcome constructive criticism. I also respect differing viewpoints. However, there is another Wikipedia user, one who you have [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=985504979#Uncivil_behavior_and_removal_of_references_in_Imelda_Marcos previously topic banned], who has reverted all of my 11,000 bytes of edits on the page for [[Roger Ver]] without, from what I can tell, even reading them. This is similar to why they were banned before. Worst of all, they appear to have a personal bias against Ver. I am not asking you take sides. I would be perfectly comfortable if someone who was neutral went through the page as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Ver&oldid=1196426598 I had edited it to] and took away what they believed was not appropriate. But I am not comfortable with someone who is biased deleting everything whole cloth and refusing to restore anything, even despite considerable conversations about it in the Talk page. In general, they appear to have a lazy, flippant attitude the longer the discussion goes on. I'd appreciate if you had a look, not to take sides, but just to be neutral, please, and hopefully allow some of these edits to go through.<br />
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Talk page discussion:<br />
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roger_Ver#Restore_possible_COI_issues<br />
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{{reply to|NinjaRobotPirate}} Thank you [[Special:Contributions/58.97.215.166|58.97.215.166]] ([[User talk:58.97.215.166|talk]]) 14:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I don't really know anything about that. [[WP:3O]], [[WP:BLPN]], or [[WP:ANI]] might be a better place to look for assistance. By the way, your IP address seems to be part of a botnet. I assume that since you're editing about cryptocurrency stuff (and speaking fluent English from a Cambodian IP address) that you're using proxies to hide your true IP address. If this isn't the case, you should immediately run anti-malware programs. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Your assumption was wrong. I've waited a month to respond to you. I am physically present in the country of Cambodia, and I speak fluent English. Here's a picture I personally took less than 24 hours ago in Siem Reap Cambodia. Note the handwritten IP address (mine) on Monday's Times of London printout:<br />
::https://web.archive.org/web/20240220032255/https://ibb.co/Rg0QCsw<br />
::There are millions of English speakers who live, work, and teach around the world. I had previously edited multiple pages unrelated to cryptocurrency in the months prior, including a page about election ink in Cambodia. And no, my computer is not infected with malware. [[Special:Contributions/58.97.215.166|58.97.215.166]] ([[User talk:58.97.215.166|talk]]) 03:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Your IP address is on multiple blacklists, including the [[The Spamhaus Project|XBL]], [[SpamCop]], and [[Forum spam#Spam prevention|StopForumSpam]]. I really couldn't care less about some picture on the internet. You could post a picture of yourself shaking hands with the king of Cambodia while making an unblock request, and it still wouldn't change the fact that your IP address is on multiple blacklists. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 05:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Matthew Jarvis ==<br />
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[[User:Hiiiii63562hrhd]] is making edits to this disambiguation about some guy of that name who was born in 2012 and is described in some variation of "the greatest). This is obviously a new account for banned [[User:535gstjb]]. --[[User:Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Khajidha|contributions]]) 16:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, seems kind of obvious. If more show up, I can start semi-protecting the pages or something. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== The return of 45.8.146.82 ==<br />
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Previously you blocked [[Special:Contributions/45.8.146.82|45.8.146.82]]. I'm dropping a note to let you know that one IP blocked by another admin, [[Special:Contributions/91.192.81.61|91.192.81.61]], and a currently unblocked IPs [[Special:Contributions/185.104.63.112|185.104.63.112]] are editing the same topics in the same style. There has been a persistent problem with a user behind these IPs that I notice when they edit in questionable information about the use of herbs by ethnicities, particularly the Roma. I think you're well aware of this nonsense but for completeness here are three other previous IPs:<br />
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[[Special:Contributions/103.171.44.94|103.171.44.94]]<br><br />
[[Special:Contributions/2A02:27AA:0:0:0:0:0:1571|2A02:27AA:0:0:0:0:0:1571]]<br><br />
[[Special:Contributions/2600:6C50:7EF0:4A70:8855:31B:12E7:5D7A|2600:6C50:7EF0:4A70:8855:31B:12E7:5D7A]]<br><br />
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Please let me know if I should be putting this at a particular board when I see this block evader return again in the future, as they will almost undoubtedly return. [[User:MtBotany|🌿MtBotany]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 17:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:And I was right about them returning quickly. Now editing as [[Special:Contributions/86.107.179.231|86.107.179.231]]. [[User:MtBotany|🌿MtBotany]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 02:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Could be using VPNs or something like that. There's a bot that automatically blocks them, but it doesn't get everything. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Did just as you said ==<br />
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@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] Well, thanks for helping me, man. I removed the information from my user page and you're right. I should just shrug it off like it's no big deal. Cheers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 11:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I know it seems pretty weird to give a barnstar for such a simple problem, but since it's like you helped me get out of a pit I wasn't able to escape, I couldn't help but thank you for your mentorship. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 11:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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: It's easier to see things clearly when you're uninvolved. Also, I've been on the internet since the early 1990s. I've had a lot of time to learn this stuff. My email account is older than a lot of Wikipedians, I think. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, the thing is that I was born in the 2000s, so I've just become an adult. I need to learn even more about how dangerous the internet is. I actually have been reading up on books talking about networking, internet, and hackers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 23:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: I wonder if Wikipedia has something like an internet survival guide. If not, maybe it'd be interesting to write something like that some day. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Probably I could do something like that (such as writing a book or story) when I'm in college and then publish it lol. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 03:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I do think there may be a "Wikipedia for Dummies" book in my local library, actually. I might check it out the next time I go there. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 03:38, 7 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== The Sockpuppeteer ==<br />
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When I typed all that stream-of-consciousness diatribe, I was unaware of that account. I didn't see there was a category with nearly 20; I only went from the banner of "Emmy Fan" or w/e to that user page, which showed me a "Keyblade420"; thus, I never saw that death threat. I can understand your aggravation.<br />
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As I said in my response, everything I said was as far as I knew him on the 96th Oscars page. I was not involved with a Law & Order forensic sockpuppetry investigation, which is impressive. And examining those other accounts....I just noticed Key Clue #1: '''He repeatedly blanked ALL of his talk pages there too!''' Quite an obvious pattern–circumstantial, but nonetheless compelling.<br />
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Well, he asked me to vouch for him, and I did as I knew of him then for all of 2 weeks. Can't blame me beyond that. --[[User:Cinemaniac86|Cinemaniac86]]<sup>[[User talk:Cinemaniac86|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cinemaniac86|Stalk]]</sub> 16:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Well, my advice would be not to write passionate testimonials in defense of someone that you've only known for 2 weeks, especially if you're not going to make any effort to learn who you're defending. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed. I ought not get involved at all, unless I'm certain it's some miscarriage of justice. When you posted the death threat, I was taken aback, because my statement about him was only about present-day him, not past him.<br />
::However, I just woke up at the time. I did make an effort to check. Just a minuscule one, not thorough. For future sockpuppetry, I'm more aware of how to ascertain more details now. --[[User:Cinemaniac86|Cinemaniac86]]<sup>[[User talk:Cinemaniac86|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cinemaniac86|Stalk]]</sub> 23:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Reporting a disruptive editor - February 2024 ==<br />
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Hello, I've noticed some edit-warring over on [[The Magic Roundabout (film)]] and I would like to report an [[User:Bbc1984|editor]] who is adding in unnecessary detail. The same applies with [[The Wizard of Oz (1939 film)]]. I have a feeling that his edits are a [[WP:FILMPLOT]] violation. [[User:TPercival|TPercival]] ([[User talk:TPercival|talk]]) 07:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Well, {{noping|Bbc1984}} has been warned about edit warring a couple times, so I did a short edit warring block. I don't know if it'll do much, but I also left a note. For what it's worth, {{noping|Bbc19812}} is {{confirmed}}, but there doesn't seem to be any illegitimate socking. The user page ("don't ban me") strikes me as a bit suspicious, but sometimes younger editors just blurt out stuff like that without realizing that it makes them sound suspicious. I've even seen a couple user pages that said stuff like "stop banning me". It boggles the mind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== rationalwiki ==<br />
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A user with your username was registered over at rationalwiki.org https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NinjaRobotPirate a couple of days ago, is this you? if it ain't you I'm probs going to block it for a disruptive impersonation of a Wikipedia admin. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]]) 13:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: No, that's not mine. Probably just some random dude. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I didn't think so.. I've blocked for impersonating a Wikipedia admin. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]]) 19:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== That one IP user doing bad warnings and reverts ==<br />
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Hi, I saw you blocked [[Special:Contributions/111.82.0.0/18|one of their /18 ranges]] (are these VPNs?). I just noticed [[Special:Contribs/111.82.106.32|<this>]] one though, which is on the /17. I guess they didn't do much with it, but I figured you might want to know. <br><br />
&ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 20:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I guess it could be a VPN. There seem to be some unreverted edits on Chinese Wikipedia, though, so there may be legit editors here. I expanded the range block to the /17, which should help. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:50, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, that makes sense. <br />
::I asked if it was VPNs more because of the geolocation differences - the ones you blocked and the ones Zzuuzz blocked ([[Special:Contribs/223.136.64.0/18|1]], [[Special:Contribs/223.140.0.0/16|2]]) are close together, but the other single IPs doing the same thing recently weren't: [[Special:Contribs/66.11.61.139|1]], [[Special:Contribs/153.181.48.17|2]]. <small>Although, I was under the wrong impression that the ones Zzuuzz blocked were in a different location when I asked.</small><br />
::Thanks for expanding the block.<br />
:: &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 01:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Many East Asian IP addresses that edit English Wikipedia seem to be proxies, VPNs, or similar. A decent amount of long-term disruption and sock puppetry comes from them. They'll get increasingly harsher range blocks as they're abused, regardless of whether they're VPNs. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Check two suspected sockpuppets ==<br />
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Could you please check whether RyanW1995 is the sockpuppet of Raja Nine to Five? Thanks. [[User:Natsuikomin|Natsuikomin]] ([[User talk:Natsuikomin|talk]]) 03:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Why do you think they're related? You'd have to give some sort of evidence. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I've made a report on Indonesian Wikipedia, but the checkusers there don't give immediate response. So, I ask you here hoping that you can directly check it. [[User:Natsuikomin|Natsuikomin]] ([[User talk:Natsuikomin|talk]]) 03:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== BLP Violation ==<br />
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Hi NRP. I've already reverted this[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brett_Ratner&diff=prev&oldid=1209194012] and dropped a warning on the user's talkpage[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DAHcat&diff=prev&oldid=1209207244], but it's so egregious that I still wanted to call attention to an admin; the user may require some monitoring. Thanks. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: {{noping|DAHcat}}, {{noping|MannEdith}}, {{noping|TheHetStopper}}, and {{noping|Frankypedia}} are all {{confirmed}} to each other. I figured it would be some LTA vandal in the Israel-Palestine topic area, but I guess it's just a garden variety political troll. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 23:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Glad I pointed it in your direction, then. I was just focused on the BLP side, though I did note the odd editing history; even so, I wouldn't have had anyone against which to match the user in order to file at SPI. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 16:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Checkuser request ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate. Could you please do a check of {{noping|PukeFlower}}? The account looks like a possible sockpuppet of {{noping|Bobbylonardo}} based on behavioral similarities, interaction analysis, and timeline analysis. Thanks. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 06:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: {{noping|Bobbylonardo}} has an extensive history of logged out editing, but his IP address was blocked for a lengthy period of time. That seems to be around when he switched to using his account. {{noping|PukeFlower}} looks {{unrelated}}. There's a little overlap in their editing, but they're probably both just fans of pop culture. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for checking! [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 23:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== In case you missed it... ==<br />
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You might find [[User talk:Mr. Peter Griffin#Blocked|this]] amusing. <b>[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]</b><sup>[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]</sub> 13:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]] I couldn't help but cracking a smile at that. I know this may not be my business, but it makes me laugh a bit at it. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 14:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Yeah, I guess the whole "why does everyone think I'm a bad person just because I sent death threats and keep sneaking back under different names" thing is a bit amusing, but it makes you wonder whether Gen X were even worse parents than the Baby Boomers. I used to think our parents screwed up the world much worse than us, but you can only really blame reality TV, the commercialization of the internet, email spam, Millennials, and Gen Z on us. At least we're not responsible for most of the political messes in the world. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Eh, that's true. To be fair though, I am a Gen Z, and I only started learning all about this generation stuff and I was pretty surprised to hear that my dad was literally right at the end of the Baby Boomers. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 16:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: The lines can get pretty hazy. I think statisticians mostly just make up date ranges, then the rest of the world more-or-less goes along with them. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== My user talk page ==<br />
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Ah, crap. Looks like I've become another target of their non-stop attacks against other editors. Oh well, it was well worth explaining the issue to other editors unfamiliar with the long-term abuse issue on [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1149#User:Amaury needs to go|the ANI thread]] (which was actually filed by them using a previous IP, ended in boomerang action of course). The more editors aware of their behavioural pattern and reverting them, the better, IMO. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 08:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [[Special:Diff/1209591097]]? It's ironic that this person would talk about living in someone's head rent free. Sounds like a pretty obvious case of projection to me. Not so surprising that they so worried about what people say about them that they're reading through admin boards, too. It doesn't really matter. I'll just semi-protect your talk page. I let him post to mine so I can collect IP addresses and use them as data for range blocks. If it gets out of hand, I'll just complain to the ISP and ask for his parents' service to be cut off. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 13:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah.<br />
::I honestly don't really mind the occassional or weekly personal attack, I deal with a fair share of different LTAs here, and legitimate IPs / new accounts do post to my talk page from time to time, but thanks for that.<br />
::The post they made to RfD lately gave me a good laugh. I don't feel upset in the slightest, I found it pretty funny. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 01:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, I'm glad you've got a thick skin. It helps a lot when dealing with unsupervised children. If you're really that chill about abuse being lobbed at you, you might consider trying your hand at being an administrator some day. It makes cleaning up after LTA vandals a lot easier. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::This message is not a response to NinjaRobotPirate, but to 'that guy':<br />
::::Lol. Just thought I'd let you know, that I'm not upset at all by your sayings. I'm having a good laugh here. If you read carefully, I didn't specifically request page protection here. The lack of me responding means I don't care at all. In fact this is the last time I'll ever respond directly. Bye! —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 04:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==You've got mail!==<br />
{{You've got mail|subject=|ts=19:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)}}<br />
[[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== My other message ==<br />
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Don't forget to send the form to the other administrators as well. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:The form is in your Gmail. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 19:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Sorry, I'm not really interested. If I ever get bored enough to click on random links that people send me via email, I've got about 1000 PC games I can play instead. I'm terrible about buying cheap games and never playing them. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Oof. Okay. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Edit: I asked DFO if he would do the response, and both he and Yamla did them. The responses though? Very interesting lol. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 00:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==Suspected sockpuppet==<br />
Hi! Could you please check whether [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/HotTwoDagon&target=HotTwoDagon&offset=&limit=500 HotTwoDagon] is a sockpuppet of TotalTruthTeller24? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kick-Ass_%E2%80%93_The_Dave_Lizewski_Years&diff=1187524005&oldid=1184782106 This] looks like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kick-Ass_%E2%80%93_The_Dave_Lizewski_Years&diff=921491080&oldid=917032384 this]. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMillarworld&diff=1187526851&oldid=1187297023 This] looks like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMillarworld&diff=1191996769&oldid=1187526851 this]. Thanks. --[[User:Omnipaedista|Omnipaedista]] ([[User talk:Omnipaedista|talk]]) 07:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that's TTT24. Some of my old range blocks are timing out. I guess I need to start doing them for 1 year instead of 6 months. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Sock ==<br />
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100% certain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Revenger999 this account] is another Gamerguy94 sock. There are some obvious [[WP:BEANS|editing behaviors]] on display. The sockmaster doesn't have a SPI page, so I'm bringing this straight to you. Also pinging [[User:Ponyo|Ponyo]] since they've blocked a number of the socks, too. Recent history at ''[[The Sixth Sense]]'' shows they were using an IP last week for block evasion, too. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Exceedhingly obvious sock is now blocked, along with {{np|Trollhunter97}}.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 20:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks--you wasted ''no'' time! :) [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 20:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== “removing sources” ==<br />
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I did not “remove” references on Footloose. I moved the ''same'' AFI to cite the companies not in the credits. I mean do you want 8 of the same references in the INFOBOX? Ok. Gotcha. A lot of other good edits were reverted. Please don’t template me like I’m a vandal. I’ve been here the same time you have. <span style="solid;background:#a3b18a; border-radius: 4px; -moz-border-radius: 4px; font-family: Papyrus">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<span style="color: #606c38">Mike</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:MikeAllen|<span style="color:#606c38">Allen</span>]]'''</span> 09:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Whos? ==<br />
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{{Noping|Snowfallen 678}}? See [[That's Entertainment (Hazbin Hotel)]] -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Oh, that'd be {{user|TotalTruthTeller24}}, along with {{user|Kneelint}} and a bunch of new proxies that I hadn't blocked yet. TTT24 socks have been diversifying their interests somewhat – the newest socks typically go on a run of edits to unrelated articles before developing an obsessive interest in cartoons, comic books, and superheroes. It's like, "Hello, I'm just an average editor who's interested in copy editing articles about financial investments, and, oh yeah, here's a 20KB article about some cartoon character." [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:48, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Boo. That's less interesting than some other sock I simply haven't seen before. It was clear not new but I didn't make the cartoon connection since I deal with Ttt24 mostly through VGs. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: Yeah, TTT24 has been on a cartoon binge recently. Or, at least, I'm pretty sure they're all cartoons. I haven't really kept up with pop culture in years, so I have to look this stuff up sometimes. I finally got around to watching the ''John Wick'' films this month. They're not bad. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] Oh yeah, today I just watched KFP4. I don't understand how critics think it's bad, because I like the chemistry between Po and Zhen. Sadly though, the Furious Five don't appear until the freaking end. Honestly, it might not be as good as the first three films, but it's not entirely inferior as the critics say. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::: Ah, I don't know much about that. I tend to prefer art (in its various forms) that is dark, violent, and surreal. [[H. P. Lovecraft]], [[H. R. Giger]], [[David Lynch]], [[David Cronenberg]], that sort of thing. I had a girlfriend in college who tried to get me to listen to uplifting music because she thought all my music was too depressing. I was like, "It's not all industrial music, death metal, and The Cure. I listen to happy music, too." I put on something that I thought was pretty damn happy. She said, "You call ''that'' happy?" [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::I hate when those adults always have that cliched saying "Video game music isn't real music." Well, I'm telling you, they are so wrong. Have they never listened to [[Super Mario Galaxy]] music? Believe me, Nintendo actually used a live orchestra to record it. I had never known they would use an orchestra for a video game, since it sounds way more lifelike than a chip-tuner and has a lot of depth. Mario Galaxy will always remain one of my favorite games of all time, because seriously, I can never get over how damn good the Bowser music is. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 17:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::: New forms of media often struggle at first to be recognized as worthwhile art. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Facts. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 22:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== WorldWideBallCaps's Sockpuppets ==<br />
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Hey Remember when you Blocked WorldWideBallCaps, Well Guess what He's Back. Somehow they came back on Wikipedia and it has been a On going War since then. I would really Appreciate your Help. Here are the 2 Accounts, he has been Using: [[Special:Contributions/172.92.204.120]] and [[Special:Contributions/172.92.235.185]]. How can I tell it's Him, Well WorldWideBallCaps openly Admitted that he's from Washington State and I have traced both IP Ranges and they are also from Washington State, so clearly it's the Same Person 100%. Also, they have Edited a Bunch of Pages that WorldWideBallCaps edited and bunch of them are Sports pages. They have been Annoying and a Bully and they are Using their IP address instead of Creating an new Account so they Can't get Blocked again. And if they Reply to this, Don't Fall for their BS.<br />
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Original Account: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WorldwideBallcaps]<br />
Their Contributions:[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WorldwideBallcaps] [[Special:Contributions/2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82|2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82]] ([[User talk:2601:84:8D00:2DCB:39E1:BD80:7BAA:6A82|talk]]) 04:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, he isn't that much better either. He's the one who's really in the wrong here. [[Special:Contributions/172.92.204.120|172.92.204.120]] ([[User talk:172.92.204.120|talk]]) 16:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Serves You Right! Nah, you Were in the Wrong Here! [[Special:Contributions/2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9|2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9]] ([[User talk:2601:84:8D00:2DCB:A817:49D4:930E:FAA9|talk]]) 20:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Thank You NinjaRobotPirate for taking Care of it. See he Basically Confirms and Admitted that he is WorldWideBallCaps. Kinda Wish he was Blocked Indefinitely instead. They have been really Annoying. He 100% Deserves it. Again, Thanks for the Help. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582|2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582]] ([[User talk:2601:44:401:902B:15A6:2439:6220:8582#top|talk]]) 19:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Requesting un-protecting of the Sweet Baby Inc.-talk page ==<br />
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Following proper Wikipedia conduct, I first contact you, the Wikipedia editor who put the SBI talk page to "semi-protected" status, denying people to further bring up criticism to the current state of the article.<br />
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You yourself mention that Wikipedia requires more civil behavior, yet you immediately accuse all critics of having "strong feelings", when the talk-page shows how all people were doing was calmly bring up valid criticism against the current state of the SBI-article. To imply that critics have "strong feelings" comes off as an attempt to de-rationalize their criticism or in other words, paint them as "idiots" or else. <br />
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You wrote: <br />
"Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs or expose the truth."<br />
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Certainly, though, Wikipedia is here to report factual information to the best conscience of all contributors, right? In the case of the SBI-article, several named Wikipedia-editors have shown to ignore all and any criticism brought forward, mostly under the flimsy given reason of "Wikipedia doesn't allow social media posts as a source". Which could have been acceptable, if then the consequence would be to remove the entire article (or at least the controversial section) until proper sources exist to shine light on the entire situation. By omitting key information (not feelings), the article is currently abused by bad faith-actors as ammunition for their cause. All that while named Wikipedia-editors are aware of the article's misinformation, because they themselves were shown primary sources such as official tweets by SBI employees and CEO as well as videos, all of which while it cannot be used on Wikipedia ("because social media posts aren't a source"), certainly prove to the individual human Wikipedia-editors that indeed there is crucial information missing to the current article. In which case a removal of the entire controversy-section should have long been the logical consequence.<br />
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I hope this gets through to you and those it needs to reach. Otherwise I will follow proper Wikipedia conduct and issue an official un-protection of the article. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 18:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I think you'll find that almost all of your concerns are addressed by reading the linked pages in my message. You're not the first person to come to Wikipedia to wage an ideological battle using primary sources and links to social media. Those links will answer your questions and complaints. Please also be aware that Wikipedia editors must [[WP:assume good faith|assume good faith]]. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::You just violated the "good faith"-rule by accusing me of "waging an ideological battle". I have repeatedly explained that this is not about anyone's opinion, it's about a factually incorrect article, omitting key information. In a hypothetical scenario where you chose to only include information from the other side, it'd be just as bad. It shouldn't be that hard to understand that a situation ought to be portrayed in its entirety before a Wikipedia-article is warranted. Right now, you are the one "waging an ideological battle", whether you intend to or not.<br />
::I will now request an official un-protecting of the article since you have shown to not act in good faith. After all the calmly brought forward arguments, this has ended in a very disappointed manner. Have a nice day regardless. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 21:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== "Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs or expose the truth." ==<br />
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The fact that you're openly admitting, as a Wikipedia admin, that this site isn't here to tell the truth, should get you removed from your position immediately. Wikipedia is supposed to be an objective, unbiased source and there is no place for people like you in it. [[Special:Contributions/157.131.103.182|157.131.103.182]] ([[User talk:157.131.103.182|talk]]) 21:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:Or we should promote him to Super Admin, since he's exactly right, per our policies and guidelines. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] I literally agree. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Saw this edit in recent changes, not to dogpile any further but this essay on [[WP:VNT|verifiability, not truth]] may be useful to understanding this policy. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 21:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:157.131.103.182|157.131.103.182]] Yes, he did say that the site isn't here to tell the truth, but it was all for the right reasons. Also, saying that he can't even be in it is considered as a personal attack. Don't ever do that again, as you may get potentially blocked. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] Or not even Super Admin; possibly we could even promote him to a bureaucrat (though the threshold is pretty tight). [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::It's frustrating how all of this appears to be "fun" for you. [[Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920]] ([[User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:D08:F9:2CCA:F920|talk]]) 22:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: Bureaucrats don't really do anything except [[WP:supervote|supervote]] during [[WP:requests for adminship|requests for adminship]]. I'm not even sure why we have them. The reason why people think it's amusing is because they've grown cynical. Wikipedia's admins have to deal with this day-in and day-out – people trying to convince you that you need to cite self-published blogs and social media to get the full story on Flat Earthers, or vaccines, or astrology, or UFO abductions, or... it's just endless. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 22:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::NO no no no no... this is definitely our first rodeo at all this! -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Did you know there's a [[WP:Bingo|Wikipedia Bingo]]? Very cynical indeed. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know why I'm laughing at all of this. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 09:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I didn't know about WP:BINGO. I think I win at least once a week. I want all my nothings now please. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::: I can't offer a genuine [[Marvel No-Prize]], but you can have a cheap knockoff that was made in New Jersey. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== 2409:40E6:0:0:0:0:0:0/36 ==<br />
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Thank you for the above block. The same sock seems to be editing from this range as well - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=2409%3A40E6%3A1E%3A7F41%3ACCB2%3A8FF%3AFE92%3AACF7%2F36&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50]. <br />
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FYI, @[[User:Bbb23]].<br />
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[[User:Chaipau|Chaipau]] ([[User talk:Chaipau|talk]]) 17:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [[Special:Contributions/2409:4065::/36]]? There's actually a bunch of socks active on there. Probably on the new one above, too, since it's pretty busy and wide. I don't usually have a problem with blocking wide IP ranges, but that one is a bit busier than I usually like. I could disable anonymous editing and see if that helps any. It should make any sock puppets a bit easier to see, at least. It's harder to track them when they're popping up all over the place on random IP ranges. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, that works. You have already protected them! [[User:Chaipau|Chaipau]] ([[User talk:Chaipau|talk]]) 02:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Some games not in your list ==<br />
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At [[User:NinjaRobotPirate/Games]]. Since that table compromises a list of games without a Wikipedia page, why isn't Gorilla Tag, Sun Haven and Dinkum there, given that they are all quite popular and have at least 10k Steam reviews?. In my eyes, they would be notable but Wikipedia says otherwise. <small>(edit 16:55 UTC - corrected link as that used to take to the talk page of that table of games page)</small><br />
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How about Cuisineer and Travellers Rest given that both has at least a thousand Steam reviews? [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 17:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: The page started out as a place for me to store my notes for video game articles that I intended to create. As time went on, I looked through more sources and expanded the scope to include more stuff, such as console games, pixel art games, and obscure Eurojank. However, it's still limited to what I've found and what's [[WP:notable|notable]] by Wikipedia's standards. For example, ''Sun Haven'' has [https://www.metacritic.com/game/sun-haven/ no critic reviews] at [[Metacritic]]. But if someone sees anything that I missed, it can't hurt to mention it. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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::Oh I see. I thought that was just a list of somewhat popular games without a Wikipedia page. It feels odd seeing that games like [[Dinkum]] and [[Sun Haven]] are more popular than say, [[Fae Farm]] even though the latter has a page but the former don't. In other words, popular video games (including the ones I mentioned) don't have a page and obscure video games can which is out of the ordinary. Any idea what would have been the most popular video game (using Steam reviews) without a WP article? [[Supermarket Simulator]] springs into mind, more popular than Sun Haven, also not having a [https://www.metacritic.com/game/supermarket-simulator/ Metacritic]. That table of games seems to also help other creatirs make those video games because you already listed some of them. I think three reliable sources is the minimum. I also feel like your the one who has created the most video game articles yet. [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 16:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: The most popular one that I found was ''[[Brotato]]'', which had 64K reviews before I moved the draft into mainspace. Of the articles I personally created, it was probably ''[[Timberborn]]'', which had around 20K reviews before I created the article. I created ''[[Dave the Diver]]'' just after it was released, but it already had around 10K or 15K reviews, and reviewers were calling it one of the best games of the year. ''Timberborn'' was mentioned in some lists of the most popular indie games of all time, but it's still in early access. That somewhat limited its coverage in reliable sources, but there was enough to make an article. Right now, ''[[Unheard (video game)|Unheard]]'' has almost 27K Steam reviews.<p> It's hard to figure what causes one game to get reviewed but another one to be ignored. I think the glut of indie games makes it difficult to find gems, especially if you only have a few reviewers on staff. They can only play so many games per week. The other problem is that so many games are clones of clones. There are zillions of games that have the same basic gameplay and similar graphics. That might attract fans of the genre, but it can alienate others. And if you have to play games for a living, I imagine it gets boring playing the same game repeatedly.<p> I think I've created around 200 video game articles now, but it could be more. There are probably people who've created more than that – it's certainly not a huge number. The thing is that I can pump them out pretty quickly, so my name shows up a lot. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 20:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Well anyway, thank you for the discussion about what video games belong to your user page table and how popular games do not end up having an article. [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 00:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Is this you? ==<br />
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Hello. While clerking reports at [[WP:EFFPR]], I stumbled upon this account, {{u|NinjaRabitPilot}}, claiming that it was an alt account of yours.<br />
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Is this you or just an impersanator? Thanks – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 00:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Blocked.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 00:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Same as {{noping|SpaceSuitSpiff}}. Some long-term vandal or another. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Ok thanks. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 01:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== IP sock ==<br />
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Hey, sorry to bother you. Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz#216.200.84.231 this], the sock keeps coming: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.46.64.50 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:280:CB00:903C:7580:40A2:4539:C4B6 here]. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 21:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that's got to be the same sock. I can semi-protect [[Barbie (film)]], which might help. I'm not going to remember this, so I'll write it here: the first one looks like it's a hotel or something, so I range blocked the /29; and the second one looks like more Comcast IP-hopping, so I range blocked that /44. If the sock shows up again, just let me know. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, have a nice day. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 21:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. I wasn't sure if creating a new section would be ideal as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.51.216.91 this IP looks like the same sock], similar editing while continuing to imitate my edit summaries. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 23:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: It's more of a problem when people literally edit some section in the middle of the page. I'm visually impaired and sometimes find it difficult to focus on the right spot in a sea of text. There don't seem to be many other obvious sock edits on that IP range. I'll just block the IP for a week, and I guess we can figure out what to next time when it comes around. Sometimes Comcast customers continue to pop up for a while on random IP ranges. It's mostly a matter of [[Whac-A-Mole]], I guess. Page protection is also an option. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 01:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk:Sweet Baby Inc. ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sweet_Baby_Inc.&diff=prev&oldid=1215080854 The personal attacks have started again. Just a notice] [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|talk]]) 00:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not surprised at all that their username is a violation of the username policy with the word "bot". [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 00:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Oh yeah. I forgot to keep checking the talk page after the protection ended. I could try to keep a closer eye on the talk page. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Congrats ;) ==<br />
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You're at exactly 140,000 edits right this moment, good job ;) -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Ha, I didn't notice. I can't wait for the free gift at 150,000. I heard that this year, it's going to be a DVD of ''Highlander 2''. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Block of [[Special:Contributions/2600:1702:C0:8CA0:0:0:0:0/64]] ==<br />
I would be interested in hearing the rationale for blocking this user. Thank you. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 04:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I thought it was pretty clearly labeled: BLP violations. See, for example, [[Special:Diff/1215782576]]. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:06, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, it was clearly labeled. Perhaps I didn't clearly word my question. Let me be more specific. What was the rationale behind considering those edits to be BLP violations as opposed to good faith edits, the rationale for not warning the user, and the rationale for not notifying the user of the block on the user's talk page? Obviously, "good faith edits" is subjective, warnings are not required, and administrators should (not must) notify the user - I'm not trying to call anything out as wrong or get us in some kind of attack/defend dynamic. I'm just curious about your process, as it is very different from my own. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 15:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: It's a range block. There's no talk page for an IP range. Blocked editors see instructions and links on how to proceed – I think [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext]]. It's been a while since I looked at the internals of [[MediaWiki]]; there may be additional pages or a different one for IP addresses. But the point is that they're not left adrift with no instructions on how to request an unblock. The reason why I didn't leave a block notice on one of the IP addresses on that IP range is that it's pointless. ISPs rapidly cycle the addresses allocated to customers, so the customer is going to be on a different IP address by the time they try to next edit.<p> On some rather frustrating ISPs, customers on IPv6 addresses will rarely see ''any'' messages. Though some people take this to mean ''all'' messages to IPv6 editors are pointless, I don't believe that. The reason why this editor didn't get warned, though, is because they've already gotten a final warning on [[Special:Permalink/927228667]] and was previously blocked for the same issue. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that this was several years ago, which is a bit embarrassing because I didn't think my vision was that bad yet. Despite having recently increased the size of my font, I may have to do it again. Regardless, it's still the same person and still the same disruptive edits.<p> As far as good faith edits go, almost every edit on Wikipedia is made in good faith. The only ones that aren't are from vandals and trolls. When it comes to sensitive articles, I've come to believe that Wikipedia needs to tell more people, "Thank you, but we don't need your help." When you repeatedly add unsourced biographical information to Wikipedia articles – and even ''remove sources'' – I think that's a pretty big net negative. The last thing that Wikipedia needs is more people inventing full names, birth dates, and marriages for living people. [[WP:DOB]] is pretty clear that there are privacy issues involved. This isn't the sort of thing that you can just make a best-guess at and say, "My bad!" if you're wrong.<p> I have personally seen my Wikipedia edits show up in [[CNN]] articles, reported as if they were fact. Well, they were facts, but that's not the point. People credulously copy-paste content from Wikipedia into reliable sources, and it gets replicated elsewhere. Suddenly, it's all over the place, and impeccable sources are saying that it's true. Except that the celebrity is posting to their official social media, "Hey, that's not true." But people keep re-adding it to Wikipedia because CNN says it's true.<p> Many people see access the Wikipedia as some kind of human right. I think that's grandiose – Wikipedia is probably 50% "in popular culture" sections – but it's quite understandable. In a post-truth world, sources like Wikipedia are important. But, in my opinion, having the ability to ''edit'' Wikipedia is not anything like a human right. I'm not saying that you see editing Wikipedia like that, but it's a feeling I get sometimes from the community. Like being blocked is some kind of horrible personal hardship. I used to live next door to a crack house. I think my definition of "personal hardship" is a bit off from the majority of Wikipedians.<p> Sorry, I was thinking about this recently. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 17:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::Thank you for that thorough and informative answer. I appreciate the time you took to explain it and I wish you luck with your eyesight. Eat a lot of carrots. Unless that's an old wives' tale. But even if it is, carrots are still tasty. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 20:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Article request Corn Kidz 64 ==<br />
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Can you create an article ''Goat Kidz 64'' on Wikipedia please. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 05:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
: You mean [https://www.metacritic.com/game/corn-kidz-64/ this one]? Sadly, there's no coverage in [[WP:VG/RS|reliable sources]], so it would just get deleted. You could potentially squeak through with just three professional reviews, but I generally prefer to have four. They'd have to be big names, like ''[[IGN]]'', ''[[Rock Paper Shotgun]]'', ''[[PC Gamer]]'', etc. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 14:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::There is more reliable sources now! Can you add pages like ''Super Kiwi 64 '' just like indie games when reliable sources Siactro games please. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 03:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::How but this, is this a [https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/03/corn-kidz-64-brings-n64-inspired-3d-platforming-to-switch-this-april good one]. [[Special:Contributions/166.48.119.67|166.48.119.67]] ([[User talk:166.48.119.67|talk]]) 03:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Addition to partial block ==<br />
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Can you add another article to the rangeblock on [[Special:Contributions/174.247.80.0/20]]? That person has been disrupting the [[AJ McLean]] biography since January, inserting a false girlfriend. Thanks in advance. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 03:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Semiprotected for a month. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 02:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== A barnstar for you! ==<br />
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Just wanted to show some appreciation for your enormous body of work on articles relating to independent video games. Almost constantly I go to see if an article has been made on a new game to find you have started and published it! The tracker you have developed is also a great resource. [[User:Vrxces|ＶＲＸＣＥＳ]] ([[User talk:Vrxces|talk]]) 09:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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: Thanks. I've been slacking off lately, but I think I'll get back into it again soon. I guess I needed a break. I think I got most of the notable 2023 video games at least catalogued, though. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate--you're pretty clever with technology and all that. How are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.61.240.174 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/100.33.156.32 this] the work of the same editor? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 15:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: It looks like [[Special:Contributions/103.61.240.174]] is a p2p proxy. My understanding is that these are basically proxies hosted on residential IP addresses. There's a bot that goes around blocking p2p proxies, but it doesn't get them all. There's some information at {{tl|Blocked p2p proxy}}, but I don't think there's ever been a write-up or anything at the CU wiki. Someone should probably do that, but I'm not really sure I know enough to write credibly on the topic. A lot of my knowledge is getting kind of dated these days. My sister was laughing at me because I still use a 7 year old smartphone, and it's slowly dying. I think I need to finally upgrade. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 16:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::I just replaced my 2017 Samsung phone :( -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 16:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks--I'll have a look at that. It's really quite complicated for simpletons like me. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 17:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] You thought 2017 was bad? Well, after nearly 8 years, I had to get a OnePlus Nord N200 5G (not happy with it at all) after replacing my Samsung Galaxy J7. I know the new phone looks good, but trust me. I would rather have gone with the flagship models. My old phone specifically had a horrible battery life, lasting only like 10 hours on a single charge. Pathetic for me. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 18:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: {{re|Drmies}} ah, there is something at the CU wiki. See [https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Residential_proxies this page].<p> My sister likes Samsung phones, but she uses the high end foldable stuff that's probably got better stats than my laptop. I'm not that fancy, but I am looking at some of the pricey phones. The Samsung S24 and Pixel 8 Pro are probably within my price range, mostly because they're advertising 7 years of support. If I could go another 7 years without upgrading, that'd be really nice. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I have an S23. The battery lasts forever.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::@[[User:Ponyo|Ponyo]] Wait, wait wait wait. Forever? As in like, 8 days or something? Trust me, my phone only lasts for 3 days on a charge so far. But again, that can be attributed to the phone only having a Snapdragon 480 and an Adreno 619 GPU. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::I just replaced my Galaxy S8+ due to Android 9 support being dropped in some apps I need. I went with the Pixel 8 Pro. A few things to get used to leaving the Samsung ecosystem but no more weird Samsung stuff either. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::Meh. In my opinion, OnePlus is definitely a good company. If you're looking for a good phone, probably try going for the OnePlus 12. I've heard their SoC, which is supposed to be a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, is perfect for intensive apps and gaming. I'm not a fan of Samsung nowadays, especially with that weird design of the Z Flip. Easy fragility. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Pixels win the game for cameras generally (Tho Samsung is right there too) and I wanted the best camera I could get right now. I also wanted a stock Android experience this time around. Bixby is a curse. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I can agree with that. The battery on the other hand, though? Well, OnePlus easily takes the cake for that. I was watching a video once about the OnePlus 12's battery life, and it stayed at 100% for over 30 minutes. My jaw actually dropped. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I've never had any battery issues myself so I wasn't really worried, any flagship model would essentially meet my needs. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Optimization is key, I guess. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 21:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::: Yeah, anything would be a big improvement over what I was previously using – a [[Moto X4]]. It's got 3GB RAM and 32GB storage, which was fine at first. I mostly used it for various 2FA apps and to configure routers and such. Then I installed a few games and got a dog. Now I want a nice camera and decent performance. Speaking of which, the Pixel 8 really doesn't score very well on [[Geekbench]], which is a bit surprising. The OnePlus seems to do really well, though. Might be worth a look. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 01:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Oh you got a dog! Cute. I have one I'm trying to get rid of--please come on by. I want a possum. You know, I know a Wikipedia editor who's taken care of stray ferrets. No, not you, {{U|ferret}}. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::I do have a rescue ferret though. Lil' guy. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::OK Ferret that makes me like you even more. No, it's an editor we banned, but I love him. Anyway, there might be a pattern here. Ferret has a ferret, and {{U|Tedder}} might well have a [[tedder]]. And Ponyo likes ham? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::(A wild Tedder suddenly appears). No tedders at the Tedder compound, unfortunately. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 02:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::Good to see you again, {{U|Tedder}}. I remember working on your article fondly. By now you could have been owning a farm, you know. There was an editor at the time you were chatting with, and their username was some computer or coding thing--for months or longer I tried to look for a way to get them up at DYK, but unsuccessfully. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::Ah, that editor was Bob Datacenter. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 04:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::I can't believe I used to have two pet fish when I was a little kid. I had a goldfish and a tetra with red eyes. Well, obviously the goldfish didn't survive, but the tetra did. One fish, two fish, red-eyed fish, goldfish (I know, it's a pathetic joke from the Dr. Seuss book). [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 02:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: [[:File:Caucasion Shepherd roll.webm|A short clip of my dog]]. She likes wearing her glowing pink collar at night. I had to convert it, but I tried to preserve as much quality as possible. I don't want to spam Commons with pics of my dog, which would probably get me in trouble, but she's quite photogenic. I think she's around {{convert|100|lb}} in this video. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== About [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ==<br />
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I don't think Betty Logan isn't real, She is another sockpuppet by of [[User:Megastar7|Megastar7]]. If you should mind you could block her for being made by [[User:Megastar7|Megastar7]]? [[User:MLJ 657|MLJ 657]] ([[User talk:MLJ 657|talk]]) 19:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: I think it's more likely that she's secretly a superhero. Or a space alien sent to infiltrate humanity. Or maybe an alien superhero. I don't really see how she could be a sock puppet of anyone. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 21:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we are all Betty. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocking Chimpmunkdavis ==<br />
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Can you please block Chimpmunkdavis for 3 months? [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocking Bringingthewood ==<br />
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He edited my [[Don Quijote (store)|Don Quijote]] page again! Please block that user! [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:@[[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] I have a feeling this user might be a sock trying to get revenge on other users for reverting their unexplained content removal. [[User:NoobThreePointOh|NoobThreePointOh]] ([[User talk:NoobThreePointOh|talk]]) 02:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::Block that user that reverted my page! [[Special:Contributions/114.125.101.65|114.125.101.65]] ([[User talk:114.125.101.65|talk]]) 02:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:::::No clue who it is, but they finally explained their content removal. There would be nobody left if we got blocked over something like this, lol. [[User:Bringingthewood|Bringingthewood]] ([[User talk:Bringingthewood|talk]]) 02:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism-only account ==<br />
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malvin_nzondo_._S Every single edit] thus far has been to vandalize articles related to comic books. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 23:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: The editor looks to be young but reasonably constructive on Commons. I wonder if it could accidental. I doubt most people are as clumsy as me when it comes to using mobile devices, but I could see myself making accidental edits like that if I weren't being careful. I gave a level 3 warning for vandalism. If it keeps up, I'll block. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 00:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for taking a look! [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 15:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== UTRS #87676 ==<br />
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Please see [[:utrs:87676]] regarding a block for which you directed appeals to UTRS. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 06:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
: That's to stop a racist troll. It's been discussed on the CU mailing list, and harsh range blocks were pretty much the only solution I could come up with. If someone seems like they're a reasonably normal human being, and not a 14-year-old psychopath, I'd say account creators should let them through. On a block like this, a lot of people will just give up and assume that they're "banned for life" by corrupt moderators. UTRS is a way for them to speak to a real human instead of reading Wikipedia help pages. And nobody ever reads the help pages. In the case that I've typed in the wrong IP range (it happens), they also need a way for someone to do a sanity check. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Las Vegas Sands ==<br />
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Can you please block Eparcells for 8 months? [[Special:Contributions/114.122.15.40|114.122.15.40]] ([[User talk:114.122.15.40|talk]]) 06:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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* Phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|2024 requests for adminship review]] has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|creating a discussion-only period]] (3b) and [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|administrator elections]] (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|creating a reminder of civility norms]] (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I|full report]].<br />
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* Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. [[phab:T280531|T280531]]<br />
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== FYI: [[Talk:Paramount Pictures]] ==<br />
Someone apparently trying to hijack [[Larryboy: The Cartoon Adventures]] to a Japanese anime w/ the same name left this on {{diff||1222331113|1213005435|Talk:Paramount Pictures (diff)}} apparently copy/pasting one of your posts. Not sure if I should do something about it. Cheers [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 18:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, I saw. I didn't really want to deal with it, but I did a short range block now. It looks like there's been recurring disruption and hoaxes on this IP range. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 19:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User_talk:Guerino_Symons]] ==<br />
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You probably know, but FYI that is [[User:Hamish Ross]]. v/r - <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Seawolf35|Seawolf35]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[User talk:Seawolf35|'''''T''''']]--[[Special:Contributions/Seawolf35|'''''C''''']]</sup> 02:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: No, I wasn't aware of that, actually. I don't think I've run into that one often enough (or recently enough) for it to stick in my mind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Dumbo lead section ==<br />
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I don't understand why you reverted my edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1223432463 (diff)]. <br />
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I thought I explained my changes clearly and that the text I was restoring based on the GA reviewed version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&oldid=969092639] of the article was better than directly mentioning Rotten Tomatoes in the lead section (and some of the other lead section changes seemed like the kind of [[WP:SYNTH]] problems that [[WP:FILMLEAD]] warns against.) -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.198.112|109.76.198.112]] ([[User talk:109.76.198.112|talk]]) 05:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Your edit summary seemed to suggest you thought my changes were not sourced. I assumed that the text from the GA reviewed version had been sourced but that per [[MOS:LEADCITE]] those citations did not need to be repeated in the lead section. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.198.112|109.76.198.112]] ([[User talk:109.76.198.112|talk]]) 05:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: The point of that section of the MOS is that summarizing the critical consensus requires a source. Making up your own summary is synthesis. It's also completely unnecessary. There are websites out there dedicated to summarizing the critical consensus of films, and it's typically easy to find a citation to ''Variety'' for major Hollywood productions. Quoting Rotten Tomatoes could not possibly be "undue weight". It's a juggernaut in the film industry, and studios have complained a poor rating can kill their blockbusters.<p> It also satisfies the MOS requirements by sourcing the critical consensus. There is no citation for what critics thought about the film in the article except for Rotten Tomatoes. So, this is new information that needs to be sourced properly. The MOS never prohibits citations in the lead, by the way. It just says that they're not necessary ''if it's already sourced'' elsewhere. If we had were already citing an article from ''Variety'' that came to that conclusion, it'd be fine to say in the lead without a citation. I do favor citations for direct quotations, though, if only because it's easier to verify what the quotation is when [[Special:Diff/1222057528|someone inevitably changes it]].<p> The film also did not receive mixed reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. A 46% rating on Rotten Tomatoes is "rotten". American film criticism sometimes follows ''[[Siskel and Ebert]]'', which used a binary "yes or no" system. Some people have criticized this aspect of Rotten Tomatoes, but it's simply how the site operates. We can't just ignore how the site works simply because it might not work the way we want it to work. Ignoring the "rotten" score on Rotten Tomatoes in favor of the conclusions reached by a different aggregator (Metacritic) is ironically a pretty good example of undue weight. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 15:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::: I'm glad you've given it plenty of thought but putting even more emphasis on the Rotten Tomatoes isn't ideal either, it's a very reductive site. I think we're both trying to [[WP:SYNTH|avoid synthesis]] but from slightly different perspectives. Anytime I see parentheticals in the lead section -- a section that is supposed to be summarizing -- the alarm bells go off and your changes were better than that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo_(2019_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1216453041 (diff)] but reverting to the GA version seemed better than highlighting a site as flawed as Rotten Tomatoes (if it was forced to highlight any specific publication in the lead section it would be Variety.) I think it is possible to summarize the critical response briefly and generically without synthesis but what I see as basic editing you might see different. I know that Rotten Tomatoes calls anything less than 60% rotten, which is synonymous with negative, but when the GA reviewed version said mixed and Metacritic says mixed and Rotten Tomatoes says 44% I don't think it is unreasonable to summarize that as mixed. You say we shouldn't ''ignore Rotten Tomatoes'' but we shouldn't ignore Metacritic either, so on balance and for the purposes of the lead section quickly summarizing for readers I still think having a very wide band summarized as mixed was reasonable, and that seemed to be the consensus at the time the article was GA reviewed. <br />
::: Rotten Tomatoes sucks, but I suppose I can reluctantly agree it is less worse than the synthesis you were replacing, so thanks for clarifying. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.196.99|109.76.196.99]] ([[User talk:109.76.196.99|talk]]) 17:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::: I don't really care if its methods are reductive. What's compelling to me is whether reliable sources treat it like the gold standard. If they suddenly stop caring about Rotten Tomatoes, so do I. If I cared more about the topic area, I might have opinions of my own, but I don't really. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 04:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Disruptive editor at Top Thrill 2 ==<br />
*{{pagelinks|Top Thrill 2}}<br />
So we have a case of subtle vandalism that initially appeared to be a simple content dispute at first. It was discussed at [[Talk:Top Thrill 2#Manufacturer|the talk page]] as you would expect, and then they disengaged and resorted to occasional disruption that continues to trickle in from time to time. Several editors have been involved now, and [[User talk:Daniel Quinlan#Rapidly changing IP|a page protection request I submitted was denied]]. Is an ANI discussion resulting in an IP range block really the next move here? This editor isn't seeing any warnings. What's your advice at this point? Thanks in advance as always. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 16:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Forgot to mention, this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&curid=712654&diff=1224744594&oldid=1224024512 latest edit] by the IP is yet another case of disruption. The coaster is not under construction, and they KNOW that. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 16:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:: Is this the same person from [[Special:Permalink/981180039#Cedar Point]]? It's a bit difficult for me to understand exactly what's going on here, but the IP's edits don't look like blatant vandalism. Sometimes edits fall somewhere under the banner of "not exactly correct", which makes it difficult to deal with. Most of Wikipedia's policies are only applicable to vandalism and blatant misinformation. If something even ''sounds'' plausible, you're usually told to resort to dispute resolution. And then you get the "[[Wikipedia:Randy in Boise|Randy in Boise]]" thing.<p> I dunno. I guess I'm not really fond of the whole "Randy in Boise" situation, which makes me more likely to take action on stuff that other admins might not. But if this is the same editor as before, I think a partial block might be justifiable even after such a long time. Or at least a warning of some kind. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 18:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::Appreciate the feedback. It hadn't even occurred to me that it might be the same editor, but the IP does geolocate to the same "Verizon Business" carrier in Cincinnati, so it ''could'' be possibly? Hard to say. I'm open to suggestions. I could even step away for a bit from that article. Nothing they're doing is all that drastic at the moment. The edits are mostly an improper understanding of how the parameters are used in the infobox. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1223921140 This] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1224001182 this] had to do with trying to force a "closing date" which is only for permanent closures, and note the second attempt how they copied [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Top_Thrill_2&diff=prev&oldid=1223965421 my edit summary]. Not sure if that was a form of trolling or what. If you comb through their other edits, there are other similar examples of fighting the manufacturer and now this new issue regarding the "status". Just odd. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 18:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::After giving it more thought, let's stick a pin in it for now. The disruption (or whatever we want to classify it as at this point) seems to have waned a bit in recent days. Thanks. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 14:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
::::: Well, if the situation has resolved itself, that would be nice. I wasn't really sure what to do next, if anything, anyway. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 14:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Sock? ==<br />
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Hi, would you be willing to check if [[Special:Contribs/Twinkmunt|<this user>]] who is giving some bad(like advising an user to commit meat puppetry: [[Special:Diff/1224935379|diff]]), and some other questionable advice at Teahouse, is a sock? It reminds me very strongly of [[Special:Contributions/Mrffcknt|<another sock>]] who's sockpuppeteer I do not know, who also advised meatpuppetry back then (maybe the username is in a similar vein too, now that I think about it).<br />
&ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F|2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80B7:8201:C4DC:E500:5610:A60F|talk]]) 03:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah, that would be [[User:Architect 134]]. He trolls people in the Teahouse or other highly visible places using usernames that reference female anatomy. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate#top|talk]]) 03:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Damn, I was assuming good faith for a second there... [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) 03:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Removal of Darkcastle.com from Spam-blacklist ==<br />
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Hi NinjaRobotPirate, I work for Dark Castle Entertainment. I'm trying to update the article about the company, but I am having some trouble because the company website, www.darkcastle.com, is on the Wikipedia spam-blacklist. Darkcastle.com was once a spam website that was unconnected to Dark Castle Entertainment, but the company claimed the site several years ago, and it is now a legit website with details about the production company. I posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals| on the proposed removal site] to get darkcastle.com removed from the blacklist, but so far no one has responded to my request. I see that you are an admin and a member of [[WP:HORROR]]. As Dark Castle has produced many horror films, I'm hoping you'll consider removing the site from the blacklist so we can then properly request COI edits to the article. Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist&diff=1224156792MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist2024-05-16T15:54:05Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Proposed removals */</p>
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==Chemistry content farm==<br />
* {{link summary|amino-acid-supplier.com}}<br />
* {{link summary|china-pva.net}}<br />
* {{link summary|china-vanadium.net}}<br />
* {{link summary|cobalt-nickel.net}}<br />
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Thought this was a single user issue, but now others have popped up. Sort of silly to deal with it through socking, the content almost looks legit, so using the blacklist seems like a great place to fix the issue. I haven't done it in probably a decade so I don't want to add it myself. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 16:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Now that I'm finding a bunch of users, I'll file a sock report as well. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 16:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Tedder}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 04:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==Misc Spam farm==<br />
* {{link summary|nifportugal.net}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=nifportugal.net spamcheck]<br />
* {{link summary|palpitedokaledrihoje.com.br}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=palpitedokaledrihoje.com.br spamcheck]<br />
* {{link summary|soralogin.net}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=soralogin.net spamcheck]<br />
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*{{usersummary|Soraiuya}}<br />
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Repeatedly added by a now cu-blocked spamfarm. Other links were used but these three were the most common ones. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 18:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Pahunkat}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --<b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 02:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==acestills.com==<br />
* {{link summary|acestills.com}}<br />
* {{usersummary|Potstills2024}}<br />
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* {{usersummary|Ciptank2022}}<br />
* {{usersummary|Tom2001111}}<br />
* {{usersummary|Vodkastill123}}<br />
* {{usersummary|Mixingtank2024}}<br />
* {{usersummary|Acestills5}}<br />
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* {{IP summary|93.185.147.102}}<br />
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Persistent spamming by multiple accounts. [[User:Annh07|Annh07]] ([[User talk:Annh07|talk]]) 06:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Annh07}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --<b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==vupsamachar.com==<br />
*{{linksummary|vupsamachar.com}}<br />
*13 users - please see [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mahendrasighh]]<br />
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Persistent spam in user and wikipedia space, see [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=vupsamachar.com]. Would recommend nuking remaining userpages under U5. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 15:41, 14 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==goldratestoday.net==<br />
* {{link summary|goldratestoday.net}}<br />
* {{User summary|GOLDMINE1}}<br />
* {{User summary|John Macler}}<br />
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Persistent spamming by multiple accounts. [[User:Annh07|Annh07]] ([[User talk:Annh07|talk]]) 08:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
:{{Done}}, added to blocked domains list. ''[[User:Kuru|Sam '''Kuru''']] [[User_talk:Kuru|(talk)]]'' 10:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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== Sabika321 ==<br />
* {{LinkSummary|easytrip.ai}}<br />
* {{LinkSummary|serversea.pk}}<br />
* {{LinkSummary|thebeardstruggle.com}}<br />
* {{LinkSummary|cubancigarsforsale.com}}<br />
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Domains first spammed by Sabika321, which 'somehow' managed to get their account locked. After that, the spamming continued with proxies. I only picked a few IP's as a example, please see spamcheck for all of them. - [[User:XXBlackburnXx|XXBlackburnXx]] ([[User talk:XXBlackburnXx|talk]]) 19:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==darkcastle.com==<br />
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The darkcastle.com link can be useful to Wikipedia as a reference for the activities of Dark Castle Entertainment.<br />
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The site was blocked in 2009 when it was a video gaming site that spammed Wikipedia. Back then it was not owned by or affiliated with Dark Castle Entertainment, but today it is a legitimate website owned by the company.<br />
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Thanks, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:While running IABot on a page I was hit with a message that it could not submit the edit(s) due to the domain everyculture.com being blacklisted which I have confirmed. It appears this domain is used in 217 articles on Wikipedia.<sup>1</sup> How do I find out why the domain is blocked and how do I remedy this?{{pb}}1 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=everyculture&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 [[User:Skarz|skarz]] ([[User talk:Skarz|talk]]) 16:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::This was added to the local blacklist five years ago as part of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist&oldid=891563021#Advameg_sites_(city-data.com,_filmreference.com,_etc.) this request] back in 2019. I see a higher count of extant links to this site: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=insource%3A+%22everyculture.com%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns118=1 512] in both article and draft space. There's a also an old Wikipedia mirror on that domain - I'll clean up the refs to that. For the rest you can 1) debate the wholesale addition to the blacklist, 2) evaluate the links and whitelist them individually, or 3) remove the links per the logic of the original blacklisting. ''[[User:Kuru|Sam '''Kuru''']] [[User_talk:Kuru|(talk)]]'' 17:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Can someone please fill me in on why, exactly, archive.ph is on the blacklist, but archive.org isn't? I really have no idea why archive.ph would be on the blacklist. It is the second-largest internet archive in existence and, as such, is incredibly useful.--[[User:LadybugStardust|LadybugStardust]] ([[User talk:LadybugStardust|talk]]) 04:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::On a quick search, that does not appear to be on the local or global blacklist, but there are some complicated pattern blocks that may be impacting it. I can see that you hit the blocked list when trying to add "healthyceleb.com", but I do not see anything related to "archive.ph"; can you provide any more specifics on the problems you're running in to with that archive? ''[[User:Kuru|Sam '''Kuru''']] [[User_talk:Kuru|(talk)]]'' 11:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::It was actually years ago when I tried to add it and was told that it was on the spam blacklist. Let me try right now: [https://archive.ph/] Okay, that appears to have worked. Did it used to be on the spam blacklist for whatever reason, but got taken off?--[[User:LadybugStardust|LadybugStardust]] ([[User talk:LadybugStardust|talk]]) 16:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==elainecarroll.xyz==<br />
I was attempting to add a website link to the page [[Elaine Carroll]], but was blocked because the website, www.elainecarroll.xyz, was flagged. I looked at the local and global lists and did not see this specific site listed on either. I assume there is a wider block on the .xyz TLD, but I'm not sure where the appropriate place to resolve this is as there seem to be multiple places to request exceptions/removals/overrides for these spam lists. – [[User:OdinintheNorth|OdinintheNorth]] ([[User talk:OdinintheNorth|talk]]) 17:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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Thought this was a single user issue, but now others have popped up. Sort of silly to deal with it through socking, the content almost looks legit, so using the blacklist seems like a great place to fix the issue. I haven't done it in probably a decade so I don't want to add it myself. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 16:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Now that I'm finding a bunch of users, I'll file a sock report as well. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 16:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Tedder}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 04:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==Misc Spam farm==<br />
* {{link summary|nifportugal.net}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=nifportugal.net spamcheck]<br />
* {{link summary|palpitedokaledrihoje.com.br}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=palpitedokaledrihoje.com.br spamcheck]<br />
* {{link summary|soralogin.net}} [https://spamcheck.toolforge.org/by-domain?q=soralogin.net spamcheck]<br />
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*{{usersummary|Soraiuya}}<br />
*{{usersummary|Logiia}}<br />
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Repeatedly added by a now cu-blocked spamfarm. Other links were used but these three were the most common ones. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 18:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Pahunkat}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --<b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 02:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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==acestills.com==<br />
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Persistent spamming by multiple accounts. [[User:Annh07|Annh07]] ([[User talk:Annh07|talk]]) 06:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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:{{rto|Annh07}} {{Added}} to [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. --<b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 02:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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{{Link summary|darkcastle.com}}<br />
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The darkcastle.com link can be useful to Wikipedia as a reference for the activities of Dark Castle Entertainment.<br />
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The site was blocked in 2009 when it was a video gaming site that spammed Wikipedia. Back then it was not owned by or affiliated with Dark Castle Entertainment, but today it is a legitimate website owned by the company.<br />
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Thanks, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)<br />
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=Discussion=<br />
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:While running IABot on a page I was hit with a message that it could not submit the edit(s) due to the domain everyculture.com being blacklisted which I have confirmed. It appears this domain is used in 217 articles on Wikipedia.<sup>1</sup> How do I find out why the domain is blocked and how do I remedy this?{{pb}}1 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=everyculture&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 [[User:Skarz|skarz]] ([[User talk:Skarz|talk]]) 16:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
::This was added to the local blacklist five years ago as part of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist&oldid=891563021#Advameg_sites_(city-data.com,_filmreference.com,_etc.) this request] back in 2019. I see a higher count of extant links to this site: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=insource%3A+%22everyculture.com%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns118=1 512] in both article and draft space. There's a also an old Wikipedia mirror on that domain - I'll clean up the refs to that. For the rest you can 1) debate the wholesale addition to the blacklist, 2) evaluate the links and whitelist them individually, or 3) remove the links per the logic of the original blacklisting. ''[[User:Kuru|Sam '''Kuru''']] [[User_talk:Kuru|(talk)]]'' 17:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)<br />
:Can someone please fill me in on why, exactly, archive.ph is on the blacklist, but archive.org isn't? I really have no idea why archive.ph would be on the blacklist. It is the second-largest internet archive in existence and, as such, is incredibly useful.--[[User:LadybugStardust|LadybugStardust]] ([[User talk:LadybugStardust|talk]]) 04:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
::On a quick search, that does not appear to be on the local or global blacklist, but there are some complicated pattern blocks that may be impacting it. I can see that you hit the blocked list when trying to add "healthyceleb.com", but I do not see anything related to "archive.ph"; can you provide any more specifics on the problems you're running in to with that archive? ''[[User:Kuru|Sam '''Kuru''']] [[User_talk:Kuru|(talk)]]'' 11:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
:::It was actually years ago when I tried to add it and was told that it was on the spam blacklist. Let me try right now: [https://archive.ph/] Okay, that appears to have worked. Did it used to be on the spam blacklist for whatever reason, but got taken off?--[[User:LadybugStardust|LadybugStardust]] ([[User talk:LadybugStardust|talk]]) 16:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)<br />
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=Troubleshooting and problems=<br />
{{Notice|This section is for technical problems with existing rules. Old entries are [[/archives/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}_{{CURRENTYEAR}}#Troubleshooting and problems|archived]]}}</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DJ_for_Katz&diff=1222894857User:DJ for Katz2024-05-08T16:03:13Z<p>DJ for Katz: Update of COI disclosure</p>
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I am an employee of the company and have a conflict of interest at:<br />
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*[[Daryl Katz]]<br />
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*[[Dark Castle Entertainment]]</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daryl_Katz&diff=1221885879Daryl Katz2024-05-02T15:42:02Z<p>DJ for Katz: COI direct edit; accurate per: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/2008/02/06/new-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-a-private-man-relentless-in-bid-to-buy-team</p>
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<div>{{Short description|Canadian businessman and philanthropist}}<br />
{{Infobox person<br />
| name = Daryl Katz<br />
| image = 2010 NHL Entry Draft 011-Kat.jpg <br />
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| caption = Daryl Katz at the [[2010 NHL Entry Draft]]<br />
| birth_name = Daryl Allan Katz<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date and age|1961|5|31}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]], Canada<br />
| education = [[University of Alberta]]<br />
| occupation = Chairman and CEO, [[Katz Group]]<br />
| known_for = Owner, [[Edmonton Oilers]]<br />
| spouse = Renee Gouin<br />
| children = 2<br />
| website = https://darylkatz.com/<br />
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'''Daryl Allan Katz''' (born May 31, 1961) is a Canadian [[billionaire]] businessman and philanthropist.<ref>{{cite web|title=New Oilers owner Daryl Katz a private man relentless in bid to buy team|url=https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/2008/02/06/new-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-a-private-man-relentless-in-bid-to-buy-team|date=6 February 2008|website=The Free Press}}</ref> Katz is founder and chairman of the [[Katz Group of Companies]], one of Canada's largest privately owned enterprises, with pharmacy, sports & entertainment, and real estate development businesses. Katz Group owns the [[Edmonton Oilers]], and led the development of [[Rogers Place]] and the Ice District. Katz is a former lawyer, and resides in Edmonton.<br />
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==Early life==<br />
Daryl Katz was born in 1961 in Edmonton, Alberta.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www.edmontonjournal.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121216090649/http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |archive-date=16 December 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref> His father was a pharmacist who founded [[Value Drug Mart]] in Edmonton in the 1970s.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> Katz attended the Jewish day school, the [[Edmonton Talmud Torah]] during his elementary years and then graduated from [[Jasper Place High School]].<ref name=ArchivesCanada>{{cite web |url=http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |title=Archived copy |website=www.archivescanada.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131111055102/http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |archive-date=11 November 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive>{{cite web |url=http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www2.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131005111141/http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |archive-date=5 October 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref> He then attended the [[University of Alberta]], graduating with an arts degree in 1982 and with a law degree in 1985.<ref name=ArchivesCanada/><br />
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==Pharmacy business==<br />
After school, he worked for a time at the law firm, Shoctor, Mousseau and Starkman,<ref name=ArchivesCanada/> and then started his own practice focusing on corporate and franchise law. In 1991, in a partnership with his father, Katz paid $300,000 for the Canadian rights to the U.S.-based Medicine Shoppe drugstore franchise which had over 1,000 stores in the USA. In 1992, they opened the first Medicine Shoppe store and Katz founded the Katz Group of Companies which was to become the holding company for the group. In 1996, Katz purchased the storied but fading [[Rexall (Canada)|Rexall]] drugstore chain in Canada which at the time, only consisted of several dozen stores. The business grew and by 1998, the Katz Group consisted of 80 Rexall stores, 30 Medicine Shoppe outlets, and a few smaller independent retailers. In 1997, he purchased the Ontario-based, 143-store Pharma Plus drug store chain from the supermarket operator [[Oshawa Group]] for $100 million.<ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive/> Katz reportedly retains a small circle of highly paid executives who run Katz Group. Rexall Pharmacy is run from Ontario, while other subsidiaries of Katz Group maintain private headquarters separate from Katz Group itself.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |title=The Katz Group of Companies |website=64.141.115.51 |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100418223259/http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |archive-date=18 April 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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In 1999 he ventured into the U.S. with the purchase of the money-losing, $300 million in sales, Minnesota-based Snyders Drug Store chain; in 2001, he purchased the U.S.-based [[Drug Emporium]] big-box discount chain. His foray into the U.S. was not without failure: the Snyder's chain filed for bankruptcy in 2003 and its 25 stores were sold to Walgreens. In 2004, Katz purchased the naming rights for ten years to the new $45-million [[Rexall Centre]], a 12,500-seat tennis and entertainment complex on the campus of York University. In January 2012, he sold Drug Trading Co. and Medicine Shoppe Canada to the U.S.-based drug distributor [[McKesson Corporation]] for $1.2 billion. Katz Group sold its network of approximately 460 outlets to McKesson Corporation in 2016 for C$3 billion.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Tracer|first=Zachary|title=McKesson Buys Canada's Rexall Drugstores for $2.23 Billion|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-02/mckesson-to-buy-pharmacy-chain-rexall-health-for-2-2-billion|date=2 March 2016|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Purchase of Edmonton Oilers and Creation of Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG)==<br />
In May 2007, Katz made a $145-million bid to buy the [[Edmonton Oilers]] franchise, which the owners of the team, the [[Edmonton Investors Group]] (EIG), quickly rejected, stating the team was not for sale.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/daryl-katz-remembers-buying-an-oilers-team-at-risk-of-leaving-edmonton-but-is-that-how-it-actually-happened |title=Daryl Katz remembers buying an Oilers team "at risk" of leaving Edmonton - but is that how it actually happened? |website=edmontonjournal.com |date=2012-09-19 |access-date=2020-08-10}}</ref><br />
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In July 2007, he made another bid for the Oilers of $185-million, which EIG turned down on August 7, 2007.<ref name="Buying Oilers">{{cite news|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/oilers-not-for-sale-owners-tell-billionaire-suitor-1.638074|title=Oilers not for sale, owners tell billionaire suitor|access-date=2007-08-07|publisher=CBC.ca|author=CBC News | date=August 7, 2007}}</ref> On December 12, 2007, Katz made an offer of $188-million to the EIG. The Board of the EIG announced in January 2008 that it would again recommend to its shareholders to reject this latest bid.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2008/01/02/oilers-reject.html |title=Edmonton Oilers' owners to reject tycoon's latest offer - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2008-01-02 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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On January 28, 2008, Katz increased his offer to $200 million and extended the acceptance deadline to February 5, 2008, at which time Katz was notified by the EIG that all its members agreed to sell the Oilers to him, pending league and financial approval.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |title=TSN : NHL - Canada's Sports Leader |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080207054010/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |archive-date=7 February 2008 |url-status=dead}}</ref> On June 18, 2008, Daryl Katz received the final OK from the National Hockey League to purchase the Edmonton Oilers, and then on July 2, 2008, he was officially announced as the owner of the Edmonton Oilers during a Press Conference at Rexall Place, where he was presented with an Edmonton Oilers Jersey with the number "08" and his last name patched onto the back.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In June 2014, Katz Group announced<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722586#&navid=EDM-search |title=Katz Group Names Bob Nicholson Vice-Chairman of New Sports & Entertainment Company &#124; NHL.com |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2014-06-13 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> that [[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] would join the organization as Vice-Chairman of [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] (OEG), a new sports and entertainment company that would manage the Katz Group's growing family of sports and entertainment assets, and operate [[Rogers Place]], the new home of the Edmonton Oilers.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In addition to the Oilers, OEG owns and operates the [[Edmonton Oil Kings]] (WHL), and [[Bakersfield Condors (AHL)|Bakersfield Condors]] (AHL) as well as Aquila Productions (film & production company). Nicholson was named<ref>{{cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers Press Release|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=764212|website=Oilers.nhl.com|publisher=NHL|access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> CEO of OEG in April 2015 and given responsibility for both business and hockey operations.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In April 2015, Katz announced a partnership<ref>{{cite web|last=Hipes |first=Patrick |url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/ |title=Joel Silver Forms Silver Pictures Entertainment & Taps Hal Sadoff As CEO |publisher=Deadline |date=2015-04-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> with [[Joel Silver]] to create [[Silver Pictures|Silver Pictures Entertainment]] – a new company that will develop, produce and provide or arrange financing for feature films, television and digital projects. Katz’ interests in the company fall under the OEG umbrella.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/legendary-hollywood-producer-joel-silver-and-canadian-entrepreneur-daryl-katz-partner-to-create-silver-pictures-entertainment/c-765351|title = Legendary Hollywood Producer Joel Silver and Canadian Entrepreneur Daryl Katz Partner to Create Silver Pictures Entertainment}}</ref> The partnership was dissolved in 2019 and Silver Pictures carried on under Hal Sadoff.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Ewing|first=Jeff|title=Silver Pictures Now Moving Forward without Founder Joel Silver|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2019/06/25/silver-pictures-now-moving-forward-without-founder-joel-silver/?sh=3e89bfcb1b76|date=25 June 2019|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Rogers Place and Edmonton Ice District (former Arena District)==<br />
Katz has said he bought the Oilers because he saw Edmonton's need for a new arena as an opportunity to be the catalyst for the revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core. Following public consultations and negotiations with the [[City of Edmonton]], Katz Group and the city agreed to a public-private partnership to build [[Rogers Place]] arena, which would see the city retain ownership of the new arena, and Katz Group operate it (under OEG). The City's portion of arena funding will be paid through a Community Revitalization Levy and did not result in any new cost to taxpayers.<ref>{{cite web|title=Funding Agreement |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150712155036/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |archive-date=2015-07-12 }}</ref> Construction on the project began March 2014.<ref>{{cite news|title=Rogers Place construction starts Monday|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rogers-place-construction-starts-monday-1.2557811|publisher=CBC News|access-date=April 16, 2016|date=March 3, 2014}}</ref><br />
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Opened in September 2016, Rogers Place was marketed as one of North America's most advanced sports & entertainment venues, active year-round and featuring a 24,000 square foot grand entrance-way called the Ford Hall which can be used as public/private programmable space.<ref>{{cite web|title=Winter Garden |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150507151321/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |archive-date=2015-05-07 }}</ref><br />
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With Rogers Place at its core, Katz Group has begun construction of the Edmonton Arena District (EAD),<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=80301 |title=Edmonton Downtown Arena and Entertainment District - Edmonton Oilers - News |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2012-05-17 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> slated to be Canada's largest mixed-use sports and entertainment development. The EAD will cover 25 contiguous acres of downtown Edmonton, and feature a 50,000 square foot public plaza, two office towers, a JW Marriott Hotel, a Gateway casino, over 1,000 luxury condos and rental apartments, and 270,000 square feet of retail space at a total cost of approximately $2.5 billion. In 2014, it was announced that the City of Edmonton and [[Stantec]] would be the major tenants of the two respective office towers. Stantec's tower will be the tallest in Edmonton at 69 storeys.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/62-storey-tower-to-be-built-in-downtown-edmonton-1.2747702 |title=62-storey tower to be built in downtown Edmonton - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2014-08-26 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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The Edmonton Arena District was formally renamed the [[Ice District]] on July 13, 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/2106848/welcome-to-the-ice-district-edmonton-arena-district-announces-official-name/|title=Welcome to Ice District! Edmonton Arena District announces official name - Edmonton - Global News|website=globalnews.ca|date=2015-07-13|access-date=2020-08-05}}</ref><br />
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==Philanthropy==<br />
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In October 2006 Katz announced a $7 million donation to the University of Alberta Faculty of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences and Faculty of Law. Matched by the province, the gift was the largest donation ever to a Canadian pharmacy school. The west wing of the Health Research Innovation Facility at the corner of 87th Avenue and 114th Street in Edmonton has been named The Katz Group Centre for Pharmacy and Health Research. In 2009 Katz donated $20 Million to [[Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto]] and founded The Daryl A Katz Centre For Urgent And Critical Care.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.mshfoundation.ca/page.aspx?pid=424 |title=Mount Sinai Hospital Foundation of Toronto |website=Mshfoundation.ca |date=2014-01-20 |access-date=2017-01-29 |archive-date=2016-03-04 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160304043356/http://www.mshfoundation.ca/page.aspx?pid=424 |url-status=dead }}</ref> Katz has also given "millions" to the [[Stollery Children's Hospital]] in Edmonton, as well as supporting public events.<ref name="tsn.ca">{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |title=Decision looms on new downtown rink for Oilers |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100524113236/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |archive-date=24 May 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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Between 2005 and 2010, Katz and his wife have donated "over $50 million" to organizations and institutions across Canada.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |title=Katz, wife donate $500,000 to AGA |website=www.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |archive-date=10 November 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/Daryl+Renee+Katz+donate+Gallery+Alberta/2491478/story.html |title=Daryl and Renee Katz donate $500,000 to Art Gallery of Alberta |website=Edmontonjournal.com |date=2010-01-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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==Personal life==<br />
As of November 2022, Katz' [[net worth]] is reported at US$4.2 billion, according to ''[[Forbes]]''.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Daryl Katz|url=https://www.forbes.com/profile/daryl-katz/|access-date=November 1, 2022|website=Forbes|language=en}}</ref><br />
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Katz is married to Renee Gouin.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> She is the daughter of [[Jean Ivan Gouin|Jean Yvon (Ivan) Gouin]]. In 1952, her father founded the North American Construction Group which became one of the largest mining and heavy construction companies in Canada.<ref>[http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 ''Edmonton Journal'': "Daryl Katz: reclusive billionaire" by Rick McConnell, John MacKinnon and Gary Lamphier] December 17, 2012</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/remembering/obituary.aspx?n=jean-yvon-gouin-ivan&pid=98838924#fbLoggedOut |title=Jean Gouin Obituary - Vancouver, BC &#124; Remembering |website=Legacy.com |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref><br />
===Health issues===<br />
In 2019, the [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] released a statement confirming that Katz has been suffering from a life-threatening, antibiotic-resistant [[Sinusitis|bacterial sinus infection]]. [[Sportsnet]] hockey analyst [[John Shannon (sportscaster)|John Shannon]] tweeted that Katz carried an IV bag around-the-clock during the [[Edmonton Oilers]]’ playoff run in 2017. He also underwent three surgeries in ten months to battle the infection that has a 50-50 survival rate, and his current prognosis looks positive.<ref>{{Cite web |title=What The Health?! Oilers' owner's life-threatening illness is a scary reminder of antibiotic resistance |url=https://ca.style.yahoo.com/daryl-katz-life-threatening-sinus-infection-145350853.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=ca.style.yahoo.com |language=en-CA}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Edmonton Oilers confirm owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness {{!}} The Star |url=https://www.thestar.com/amp/business/2019/05/07/edmonton-oilers-confirm-owner-daryl-katz-dealing-with-life-threatening-illness.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=www.thestar.com}}</ref><br />
===Allegations of sexual misconduct===<br />
In early 2017, Katz was accused by Brazilian actress and model Greice Santo and her husband R. J. Cipriani of offering money to the former in exchange for sexual favors. Santo also denounced Michael Gelmon, Katz's cousin and associate, for defending him and threatening to end her career in Hollywood if she spoke about the case.<ref name="CBC.ca">{{Cite web |last1=Geddes |first1=Ashley |last2=Huncar |first2=Andrea |date=April 6, 2017 |title=Brazilian model accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of offering money for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170407012003/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |archive-date=April 7, 2017 |access-date=April 18, 2021 |website=[[CBC.ca]]}}</ref><br />
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In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite news |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |newspaper=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> In August 2022, the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz;<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref><br />
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<div>{{Infobox company<br />
| name = OEG Inc.<br />
| logo = OEG Inc. Logo.png<br />
| type = Private<br />
| location_city = [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]]<br />
| location_country = [[Canada]]<br />
| key_people = [[Daryl Katz]] (Governor)<br>[[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] (CEO/{{tooltip|Chm.|Chairman}})<br>[[Ken Holland]] ({{tooltip|P. of H.O.|President of Hockey Operations}}/{{tooltip|GM|General Manager}})<br />
| industry = Sports & Entertainment<br />
| foundation = 2008 (as Rexall Sports Corporation)<br>2014 (reorganized as Oilers Entertainment Group)<br />
| products = <br />
| services =<br />
| former_names = Rexall Sports Corporation (2008–2014)<br />
| revenue =<br />
| operating_income =<br />
| net_income =<br />
| assets = [[Edmonton Oilers]] ([[National Hockey League|NHL]])<br>[[Edmonton Oil Kings]] ([[Western Hockey League|WHL]])<br>[[Bakersfield Condors]] ([[American Hockey League|AHL]])<br>[[Syncrude Oil Country Championship|Oil Country Championship]] ([[PGA Tour Canada]])<br>[[Tokyo Smoke]]<br />
| equity =<br />
| owner = [[Daryl Katz]]<br />
| num_employees =<br />
| parent = [[Katz Group of Companies]]<br />
| divisions =<br />
| subsid =<br />
| slogan =<br />
| homepage = {{URL|https://www.oeg.ca/}}<br />
| footnotes =<br />
| intl =<br />
}}<br />
'''OEG Inc.''' (formerly '''Oilers Entertainment Group''') is a company based out of [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]], that operates [[Katz Group of Companies]]' sports and entertainment offerings{{Clarify|date=October 2018}}. The flagship property and namesake is the [[Edmonton Oilers]] of the [[National Hockey League]].<ref>{{cite web|last1=Oilers|first1=Edmonton|title=Oilers Entertainment Group Announces New Organizational Structure|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=773900|website=oilers.nhl.com|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref> OEG also operates [[Rogers Place]], the new home of the Oilers in downtown Edmonton. OEG is owned by [[Daryl Katz]].<br />
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==History==<br />
When [[Daryl Katz]] bought the Oilers in 2008 from [[Edmonton Investors Group]], he created '''Rexall Sports Corporation''' as an umbrella for Katz Group's sports and entertainment interests.<br />
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The company was reorganized as Oilers Entertainment Group in 2014, with former [[Hockey Canada]] president [[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] as vice chairman. In 2015, he became chief executive officer and operating head of Katz' entertainment interests, including the Oilers.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Sun|first1=Edmonton|title=Oilers announce Bob Nicholson is the team's chief executive officer|url=http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/20/oilers-announce-bob-nicholson-is-the-teams-chief-executive-officer|website=Edmonton Sun|publisher=Edmonton Sun|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref><br />
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On April 24, 2015 OEG announced the appointment of [[Peter Chiarelli (ice hockey)|Peter Chiarelli]] as President of Hockey Operations and General Manager of the Oilers.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Oilers|first1=Edmonton|title=Peter Chiarelli named President of Hockey Operations and General Manager|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=765014|access-date=9 July 2015|website=Edmonton Oilers}}</ref><br />
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==Operations==<br />
Originally beginning with just the Oilers, OEG has grown to include a significant portfolio of sports and entertainment offerings. OEG now owns and operates the [[Edmonton Oil Kings]] of the [[Western Hockey League]] and the [[Bakersfield Condors]] of the [[American Hockey League]]. From January 2014 to September 2016, OEG owned the [[Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015)|Bakersfield Condors]]/[[Norfolk Admirals (ECHL)|Norfolk Admirals]] franchise in the [[ECHL]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/admirals-purchased-by-mango-media-group/n-5205762 |title=Admirals Purchased by Mango Media Group |publisher=OurSports Central |date=September 29, 2016}}</ref> OEG also owns Aquila Productions, which produces film & television, live events and broadcasts, and corporate and branded messaging services.<br />
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In April 2015, Katz announced a partnership with film producer [[Joel Silver]] to create Silver Pictures Entertainment<ref>{{cite web|last1=McClintock|first1=Pamela|title=Producer Joel Silver is partnering with Canadian billionaire Daryl Katz|url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/producer-joel-silver-says-hes-791676|website=Hollywood Reporter|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref> – a new company that will develop, produce and provide or arrange financing for feature films, television and digital projects. Katz’ interests in the company fall under the OEG umbrella.<br />
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OEG also operates [[Rogers Place]], a multi-use indoor arena that is home to the Edmonton Oilers and the Edmonton Oil Kings. In addition to sporting events, the arena plays host to concerts and other events in the [[Ice District]],<ref>{{cite web|title=Edmonton Arena District Now Officially Known as Ice District in Next Step to Becoming Canada's Largest Mixed-Use Sports and Entertainment Development|url=http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/added-photo-a-new-era-entertainment-comes-alive-with-official-launch-ice-district-2037936.htm|website=www.marketwired.com|publisher=marketwired.com|access-date=13 July 2015}}</ref> a mixed-use sports and entertainment development, featuring a winter garden - a key part of the architectural design used as a large multi-use indoor public space - and an adjoining community rink which is open to the public.<ref>{{cite web|title=About ICE District|url=http://icedistrictproperties.com/about/#/play.html|website=ICE District Properties|access-date=January 31, 2017}}</ref><br />
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In 2022, OEG acquired the [[Tokyo Smoke]] brand and 23 retail cannabis stores from [[Canopy Growth]].<ref>https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/09/27/2523846/0/en/OEG-Retail-Cannabis-to-Acquire-Retail-Stores-Tokyo-Smoke-Brand-From-Canopy-Growth-in-Cross-Country-Expansion.html {{bare URL inline|date=April 2023}}</ref><br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Daryl Katz]] <br />
*[[Katz Group of Companies]]<br />
*[[Edmonton Oilers]]<br />
*[[Rogers Place]]<br />
*[[Ice District]]<br />
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<div>{{Infobox company<br />
| name = Oilers Entertainment Group <br />
| logo = OEG Inc. Logo.png<br />
| type = Private<br />
| location_city = [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]]<br />
| location_country = [[Canada]]<br />
| key_people = [[Daryl Katz]] (Governor)<br>[[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] (CEO/{{tooltip|Chm.|Chairman}})<br>[[Ken Holland]] ({{tooltip|P. of H.O.|President of Hockey Operations}}/{{tooltip|GM|General Manager}})<br />
| industry = Sports & Entertainment<br />
| foundation = 2008 (as Rexall Sports Corporation)<br>2014 (reorganized as Oilers Entertainment Group)<br />
| products = <br />
| services =<br />
| former_names = Rexall Sports Corporation (2008–2014)<br />
| revenue =<br />
| operating_income =<br />
| net_income =<br />
| assets = [[Edmonton Oilers]] ([[National Hockey League|NHL]])<br>[[Edmonton Oil Kings]] ([[Western Hockey League|WHL]])<br>[[Bakersfield Condors]] ([[American Hockey League|AHL]])<br>[[Syncrude Oil Country Championship|Oil Country Championship]] ([[PGA Tour Canada]])<br>[[Tokyo Smoke]]<br />
| equity =<br />
| owner = [[Daryl Katz]]<br />
| num_employees =<br />
| parent = [[Katz Group of Companies]]<br />
| divisions =<br />
| subsid =<br />
| slogan =<br />
| homepage = {{URL|https://www.oeg.ca/}}<br />
| footnotes =<br />
| intl =<br />
}}<br />
'''Oilers Entertainment Group''' ('''OEG''') is a company based out of [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]], that operates [[Katz Group of Companies]]' sports and entertainment offerings{{Clarify|date=October 2018}}. The flagship property and namesake is the [[Edmonton Oilers]] of the [[National Hockey League]].<ref>{{cite web|last1=Oilers|first1=Edmonton|title=Oilers Entertainment Group Announces New Organizational Structure|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=773900|website=oilers.nhl.com|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref> OEG also operates [[Rogers Place]], the new home of the Oilers in downtown Edmonton. OEG is owned by [[Daryl Katz]].<br />
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==History==<br />
When [[Daryl Katz]] bought the Oilers in 2008 from [[Edmonton Investors Group]], he created '''Rexall Sports Corporation''' as an umbrella for Katz Group's sports and entertainment interests.<br />
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The company was reorganized as Oilers Entertainment Group in 2014, with former [[Hockey Canada]] president [[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] as vice chairman. In 2015, he became chief executive officer and operating head of Katz' entertainment interests, including the Oilers.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Sun|first1=Edmonton|title=Oilers announce Bob Nicholson is the team's chief executive officer|url=http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/20/oilers-announce-bob-nicholson-is-the-teams-chief-executive-officer|website=Edmonton Sun|publisher=Edmonton Sun|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref><br />
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On April 24, 2015 OEG announced the appointment of [[Peter Chiarelli (ice hockey)|Peter Chiarelli]] as President of Hockey Operations and General Manager of the Oilers.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Oilers|first1=Edmonton|title=Peter Chiarelli named President of Hockey Operations and General Manager|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=765014|access-date=9 July 2015|website=Edmonton Oilers}}</ref><br />
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==Operations==<br />
Originally beginning with just the Oilers, OEG has grown to include a significant portfolio of sports and entertainment offerings. OEG now owns and operates the [[Edmonton Oil Kings]] of the [[Western Hockey League]] and the [[Bakersfield Condors]] of the [[American Hockey League]]. From January 2014 to September 2016, OEG owned the [[Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015)|Bakersfield Condors]]/[[Norfolk Admirals (ECHL)|Norfolk Admirals]] franchise in the [[ECHL]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/admirals-purchased-by-mango-media-group/n-5205762 |title=Admirals Purchased by Mango Media Group |publisher=OurSports Central |date=September 29, 2016}}</ref> OEG also owns Aquila Productions, which produces film & television, live events and broadcasts, and corporate and branded messaging services.<br />
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In April 2015, Katz announced a partnership with film producer [[Joel Silver]] to create Silver Pictures Entertainment<ref>{{cite web|last1=McClintock|first1=Pamela|title=Producer Joel Silver is partnering with Canadian billionaire Daryl Katz|url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/producer-joel-silver-says-hes-791676|website=Hollywood Reporter|access-date=9 July 2015}}</ref> – a new company that will develop, produce and provide or arrange financing for feature films, television and digital projects. Katz’ interests in the company fall under the OEG umbrella.<br />
<br />
OEG also operates [[Rogers Place]], a multi-use indoor arena that is home to the Edmonton Oilers and the Edmonton Oil Kings. In addition to sporting events, the arena plays host to concerts and other events in the [[Ice District]],<ref>{{cite web|title=Edmonton Arena District Now Officially Known as Ice District in Next Step to Becoming Canada's Largest Mixed-Use Sports and Entertainment Development|url=http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/added-photo-a-new-era-entertainment-comes-alive-with-official-launch-ice-district-2037936.htm|website=www.marketwired.com|publisher=marketwired.com|access-date=13 July 2015}}</ref> a mixed-use sports and entertainment development, featuring a winter garden - a key part of the architectural design used as a large multi-use indoor public space - and an adjoining community rink which is open to the public.<ref>{{cite web|title=About ICE District|url=http://icedistrictproperties.com/about/#/play.html|website=ICE District Properties|access-date=January 31, 2017}}</ref><br />
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In 2022, OEG acquired the [[Tokyo Smoke]] brand and 23 retail cannabis stores from [[Canopy Growth]].<ref>https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/09/27/2523846/0/en/OEG-Retail-Cannabis-to-Acquire-Retail-Stores-Tokyo-Smoke-Brand-From-Canopy-Growth-in-Cross-Country-Expansion.html {{bare URL inline|date=April 2023}}</ref><br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Daryl Katz]] <br />
*[[Katz Group of Companies]]<br />
*[[Edmonton Oilers]]<br />
*[[Rogers Place]]<br />
*[[Ice District]]<br />
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15:52, 24 May 2021 diff hist +90 N Talk:Flashback (After School single album) 162 etc. moved page Talk:Flashback (After School single album) to Talk:Flashback (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Flashback current Tag: New redirect<br />
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15:22, 24 May 2021 diff hist +92 N Talk:Boing Boing (April single album) 162 etc. moved page Talk:Boing Boing (April single album) to Talk:Boing Boing (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB current Tag: New redirect<br />
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::This is a lot of moves. <br />
::Can you please use WP:RM to remove artist names from articles. Thank you. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 16:21, 24 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
{{ping|In ictu oculi}} These are all uncontroversial. [[WP:ALBUMDAB]] is clear: a single album is a distinct type, and does not require additional disambiguation. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|In ictu oculi}} I see you are reverting these, can you please explain your justification? [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:34, 24 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Considering the nonsense opposes at [[Talk:Big Bang (2006 single album)]] I have no opinion on the title. And simply ignore the user above. They are known for gaming the system and chicken out when confronted. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|(CC)]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;">™</span>]]</sup> 04:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::I reverted them because I believe that they justify RMs. They do not improve [[WP:CRITERIA]] for the reader. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 09:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::{{ping|In ictu oculi}} I don't believe that reverting article moves that are explicitly supported by a Wikipedia naming convention is a good idea, and hope that you consider undoing these reverts. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 15:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Laverlochère-Angliers ==<br />
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Please note that if you want to propose a merger of Laverlochère and Angliers into [[Laverlochère-Angliers]], the process isn't just "template the pages and walk away" — you also need to post a section to [[Talk:Laverlochère-Angliers]] to explain ''why'' you're proposing the merger, so that there's something for people to ''discuss''. If you don't do that, then the only thing that will happen is that the templates will eventually be removed from the pages as unactionable due to lack of discussion. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 12:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
*{{ping|Bearcat}} Canadian cities and towns' articles are usually named after the municipal government's name; since these are two small towns which recently merged and are not notable enough for separate articles, the merge seems pretty uncontroversial. I just didn't feel like doing it myself. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::Explaining it to me here isn't the point. The process ''requires'' there to be a merger proposal posted to the talk page of the target article for ''discussion'', and the merger will simply ''never happen at all'' if you don't post a proposal to the talk page of the target article, because ''that's how the merger process works''. If you don't, the only thing that will ''ever'' happen is the templates getting removed from the articles without action, because no proposal was posted to the talk page of the target article for anybody to take any action on. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 19:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::I just moved it. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 21:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== "Ricoh Arena" ==<br />
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In future, if you have an issue with one of my edits, please try talking to me about it on my talk page before running to the Sysops boards. Would be appreciated, thanks [[User talk:C87d98b10|c87d98b10]] 02:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
* {{ping|C87d98b10}} [[Ricoh Arena]] was at [[WP:RM]] 2 weeks ago and there was no consensus to move. Reverting your article move was the only thing to do in this situation. Please assume good faith. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 15:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AC87d98b10&type=revision&diff=1035673663&oldid=1035668787 my reply here covers why the page move was correct by me] -- As for assuming good faith, you're going out of your way to have an article with an incorrect title on Wikipedia, doing so in a deceptive way going behind my back to a Sysop board too. No post on the article talk page questioning the move, no post on my talk page questioning the move, just straight to technical boards looking for a Sysop or a rollbacker to revert without even giving me a chance to have a say or defend myself. So yeah, I won't be taking advice on assuming good faith from yourself, when clearly it was not something that you saw fit to assume of me. This will be my final interaction with you regarding the matter. [[User talk:C87d98b10|c87d98b10]] 23:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Moving an article when an RM indicated that there is no community consensus to do so is definitely something that warrants an immediate revert. Please familiarize yourself with [[WP:RM]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)<br />
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==Joe Hall==<br />
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When I do page moves I generally follow [[WP:Be bold]]. I think nobody wins if every page move goes through the full discussion process. Occasionally I come across users who have a strong feeling about article names. I am happy happy to go through a discussion in these cases.<br />
I guess you are mainly concerned about [[Joe Hall]] rather than [[Robert McIntyre]] and [[Roger Cardinal]]. If that is correct, I suggest either me or you put him up for a move discussion after your "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" have been looked at. As I have been wondering about primary topic definition for people who are known by their nickname rather than their proper name, I am looking forward to the outcome. [[User:Inwind|Inwind]] ([[User talk:Inwind|talk]]) 16:16, 6 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Inwind}} I thank you for your edits and hope you take no offense by me nominating these reverts. I too will often make bold edits to follow [[WP:NOPRIMARY]]. You are correct that of the three, Joe Hall is the one who has the highest long-term notability. I will gladly participate in any discussion that arises. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::It looks as if nobody likes to touch the "Requests to revert undiscussed moves". I suggest to remove all three requests and start a proper move discussion on Joe Hall. Would that be alright with you ? [[User:Inwind|Inwind]] ([[User talk:Inwind|talk]]) 09:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== KKR ==<br />
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Please drop your ongoing campaign of piping all KKR links to Kohlberg Kravis Roberts. You obviously believe that KKR should be a disambiguation page, but your attempt to have this applied [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:KKR_(disambiguation) was unsuccessful], so please respect the consensus and the [[WP:NOTBROKEN]] rules. [[User:Platneua|Platneua]] ([[User talk:Platneua|talk]]) 06:09, 14 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Merging ITHF and ITHF table hockey ==<br />
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Why? It is against standard practice, in which the articles about governing organizations and kinds of sport are different. And I no see any sense for it. Besides, it is not did in another languages and, consequently, in Wikidata. --[[User:Egilus|Egilus]] ([[User talk:Egilus|talk]]) 17:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
:My argument is that the sport is not different. There is only one article for [[Ice hockey]], not "NHL ice hockey" and "IIHF ice hockey", for example. I encourage you to discuss at the article's talk page rather than here so that other editors can contribute as well. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:16, 29 September 2021 (UTC)<br />
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== Nur-Sultan, Requested move 8th and 9th October 2021 ==<br />
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At [[:Talk:Nur-Sultan#Requested move 9 October 2021]] you asked what was going on. This is all to do with a requested move at [[:Talk:Allahabad#Requested move 20 September 2021]]. ''TrangaBellam'' was the editor who performed closure on the move. ''Tecumseh*1301'' is an editor who favoured moving the article on Allahabad to another name. In his/her arguments for such a move, ''Tecumseh*1301'' repeatedly said that the position was similar to [[:Astana]] being moved to Nur-Sultan (which happened on 4 May 2019). Having not got the result he/she wanted at Allahabad, ''Tecumseh*1301'' did two things: (1) he/she asked for a [[:Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2021 October#Allahabad|move review]], and (2) has proposed that the article on [[:Talk:Nur-Sultan#Requested move 8 October 2021|Nur-Sultan be moved back to Astana]], making much the same arguments for the move as were made to oppose the move from Allahabad to another name. This is where [[:Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point]] comes in.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 20:53, 9 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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{{ping|Dan arndt}} Fixed it for you. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 06:07, 26 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, 162 etc.,<br />
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I de-PROD'd this article because you failed to inform the page creator, who is still an active editor, about this deletion tagging. If you use [[WP:TWINKLE|Twinkle]], an editing tool, any time you tag a page for any type of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.), Twinkle will post these talk page notifications for you once you set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator". These notifications are one step of the deletion process that can't be skipped over plus it is just common courtesy, especially with a PROD because it is possible for an editor to address concerns raised in the PROD deletion rationale. If you decide to nominate this page for deletion at [[WP:AFD|AFD]], please remember to notify the page creator. <br />
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:{{ping|Liz}}{{ping|Areaseven}} That's fine. I still think it's unreferenced and not notable. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 23:30, 9 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Not discussing page move of [[Bonnie Lee Bakley]] ==<br />
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I have [[WP:RMUM|undone your undiscussed page move]] of [[Bonnie Lee Bakley]] to [[Killing of Bonnie Lee Bakley]] on the grounds that [[WP:BIO1E]] does not apply, and even if it did, there is a caveat that allows for a separate [[WP:BIO|biography]]. My [[Talk:Bonnie Lee Bakley#Undid page move of biography that was not discussed|full explanation is on the talk page]]. However, one consequence of a page move like this is that a biography needs to be rewritten as a [[WP:CRIME|crime]] this is going to be controversial if the article is a long standing or full fledged biography that covers the person's life. In this case, the [[WP:RM|move should have been discussed]], first. I distinguish this from similar moves about the same time to articles about [[Abraham Grünbaum]], [[Milan Pantić]] and [[Jennifer Servo]] because in those articles there is minimal biographical content prior to death. However, in the case of [[Jennifer Servo]] I would have recommended discussing that move, too, because a [[Talk:Killing of Jennifer Servo#Notability tag|previous notability discussion]] indicated [[WP:BIO1E]] did not apply, although this is not clear from the article. I hope this assist you in deciding how best to approach page moves in the future. - [[User:Cameron Dewe|Cameron Dewe]] ([[User talk:Cameron Dewe|talk]]) 00:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
*Hi, thanks for your contributions. [[WP:BRD]] applies to pagemoves as well, and it seems like the process is working as it should. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 00:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
**True, that is why I chose to discuss the issue, too. However, you might want to also consider [[WP:TITLECHANGES]] in the future, (which I spotted today), this piece of advice indicates changing the title of an article is likely to be a controversial one after an article ceases to be a stub or has been stable for a long time. There are times to [[WP:BOLD|Be Bold]], though one should also [[WP:CAREFUL|take care]] when [[WP:IGNORE|ignoring any rules]]. In other words: ''[[Wikipedia:If it ain't broke, don't fix it|If it ain't broke, don't fix it]]'', neither arbitrarily, nor just to follow a pattern; but do it to improve Wikipedia. Anyway, this little exercise proved useful as it informed me about everything I needed to consider when changing article titles, today, in the [[Parkinson case]]. Thank you for your inadvertent help! It proved useful. - [[User:Cameron Dewe|Cameron Dewe]] ([[User talk:Cameron Dewe|talk]]) 08:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Xudun ==<br />
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Hi, I was wondering why the [[Xudun, Somalia]] page hasn't been moved to [[Xudun]] yet? I don't believe there are any issues that would prevent this move from happening. Thank you. <br />
[[User:Subayerboombastic|Subayerboombastic]] ([[User talk:Subayerboombastic|talk]]) 03:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
*{{ping|Subayerboombastic}} It appears that you've instead proposed a move to [[Hudun]]. I'm not a local expert, so neutral on Xudun/Hudun; my comment at [[WP:RMT]] was simply that the "Somaliland" tag was superfluous. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{re|162 etc.}} Yes, I agree with you that adding Somaliland to the title would be unnecessary. However, it appears both Hudun and Xudun are disambiguation pages so either way it would be required. Either that or one of the disambiguation pages would need to be deleted, which seems more controversial. I believe this is the reason the page was moved in 2012 from Xudun to Xudun, Somalia. Back then the region was under Puntland control and most towns were labeled as such. However now all this areas have been under Somalilands control and other articles have been debated and amended to reflect that. As for the spelling, Hudun is the English spelling and Xudun is the Somali spelling. The vast majority of the cities and towns in the region use the English spelling in the title, so it makes sense to keep that consistent throughout. [[User:Subayerboombastic|Subayerboombastic]] ([[User talk:Subayerboombastic|talk]]) 21:07, 29 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Just FYI, the RM at [[Talk:Ratchet (device)]] has been changed in a way that might affect your comment there. (It certainly did mine.) [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 06:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Hi 162 etc. Thanks for your batch RM at what's now [[Talk:Killing of Andy Lopez]]. You intimated that you might continue working through similarly titled articles in future RMs. Would you please ping me if you do so? I think doing so would be permissible per the "Editors who have asked to be kept informed" clause of [[WP:APPNOTE]], but if this slips too close to canvassing for you, a neutral notice at [[WT:DEATHS]] would also work. Thanks! [[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] 03:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== March 2022 ==<br />
[[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to [[:PMA]] while logged out. Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry|policy on multiple accounts]] usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked from editing]]. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your [[IP address]], which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:Uw-login --> ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 16:43, 7 March 2022 (UTC**<br />
*No sockpuppetry intended. My IP is disclosed on my user page. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Still I don't think you should be editing while logged out if you have an account. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 16:46, 7 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::[[WP:LOGOUT]] doesn't prohibit it. IPs can make productive edits too, please don't just revert everything :) [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::{{tpw}} 162, I agree with you completely that your editing here is permissible per [[WP:LOGOUT]]. If you wanted to go over and above, you might consider noting in the edit summary when you're editing an article as both a registered user and an IP in close succession. Otherwise, you may be unintentionally misleading other editors into thinking your positions have more support than they do. It's unlikely that they'd think to check your user page. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 17:27, 7 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, 162, if you had cited the guidelines you did earlier then I wouldn't have reverted you so much since not only are redlinks usually perfectly fine but pipelinks are as well. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze&nbsp;Wolf#6545</sub> 17:42, 7 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Don't Leave (Simba Tagz song) ==<br />
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A few weeks ago you nominated the song "Don't Leave" for deletion and the discussion has been closed in a disappointing fashion. I have renewed the discussion here: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Leave (Simba Tagz song) (2nd nomination)]]. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">[[User:doomsdayer520|<b style="color:#66CDAA"><small>DOOMSDAYER</small>520</b>]]<small> ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|TALK]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|CONTRIBS]]) </small></span> 18:18, 3 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
*{{ping|Doomsdayer520}} While I agree with you that the article should be deleted, starting a new AfD immediately after the first one has closed is bad etiquette. [[WP:DRV]] would be the preferred way to dispute the outcome. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 21:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Speaking of bad etiquette, the closing admin in the first AfD gave no evidence that they did anything beyond count votes. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">[[User:doomsdayer520|<b style="color:#66CDAA"><small>DOOMSDAYER</small>520</b>]]<small> ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|TALK]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|CONTRIBS]]) </small></span> 23:53, 3 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::You could make that argument at a deletion review, yes. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 00:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Enlighten me ==<br />
As to how [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rainbow_High_(book)&oldid=prev&diff=1088214673 this] isn't proper? Boldly redirecting something that's sat unsourced (and is a plot copyvio) for the better part of a decade is precisely in line with [[WP:BOLD]]. Are you going to source it? [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#E52B50;font-size:11px">PRAXIDICAE💕</span>]] 19:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:*I've PROD'd it. It's not a good article, and it should probably go, but the pseudo-merge ahead of your RM didn't really seem above-board to me. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 19:48, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::That's not the point, labeling perfectly fine edits as improper when an editor has chosen to redirect instead of going the overly-bureaucratic route isn't actually improper. No one said anything about an RM. Redirects are perfectly fine per [[WP:BOLD]] and there was nothing sourced or neutral to merge anywhere and I had no intention of starting an RM, so I haven't got a single clue what you're talking about as there is no move involved. Where exactly did you get the idea that I was starting an RM, especially considering I can't recall ever once even starting an RM? Oh and lastly, deleting it is useless when the second book is notable so it stands to reason that a redirect would be perfectly useful. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#E52B50;font-size:11px">PRAXIDICAE💕</span>]] 19:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Ah my bad, the RM was actually somebody else. Anyway, reverts are a part of [[WP:BRD]], and it seems like the process is working as it should. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 20:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Not really when you force an overly burecractic process toward deletion that shouldn't be deleted but kept as a useful redirect. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#E52B50;font-size:11px">PRAXIDICAE💕</span>]] 20:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Blocks preventing my proofs per [[WP:GNG]] & [[WP:V]]==<br />
None of the info there is fan-based as you claim. I suggest you take this to the admins and get consensus on how to mend those "rules" as {{u|ST47ProxyBot}} is preventing me from demonstrating a perceived "fansite" article here on WP. I felt that the text in the "Overly detailed" template (as you feel that it's a bad etiquette from me.) meant that the section is for promotion. for the sources, they are there. But as I'm under series upon series of I.P. address blocks by the bot for ''that'', you may/will think otherwise. I've complained to others on similar instances and grounds and they've understood. It ain't your fault or mine that per [[WP:GNG]], you should see non-"fansite" info without proof per [[WP:v]]. I see that you've brought it back, so I'll work on them and remove it again later. I thought WP is more than just education and "all-seriousness". [[User:Intrisit|Intrisit]] ([[User talk:Intrisit|talk]]) 17:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
*<small>Note: This is a reply to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AIntrisit&type=revision&diff=1088898202&oldid=1087082993 this] talk page comment [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 18:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)</small><br />
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== Autopatrolled granted ==<br />
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== Archiving notice ==<br />
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== Only Death Is Real (album) ==<br />
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Are you going to start a discussion about ''[[Only Death Is Real (album)|Only Death Is Real]]'', which has multiple reviews? Please {{tl|ping}} me when you respond. [[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 23:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
*{{ping|Jax 0677}} Thanks for improving the article with references. I'm still not sure if it meets [[WP:NALBUM]], but I don't have strong feelings about it either way. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 16:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:*''' Reply '''- In that case, I am going to remove the merge tag, unless someone wants to start some type of discussion. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 21:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Wild Card frustrations ==<br />
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Howdy. You're likely going to find (for reasons I can't explain) that editors are unwilling or unable to come to an agreement, concerning nearly anything to do with the [[Major League Baseball Wild Card]] & [[Major League Baseball Wild Card Game]] pages. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 22:04, 3 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Second PROD ==<br />
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Please read [[Talk:Slow Dance (poem)#Second PROD]] and I suggest reply there, but it can be here if you prefer. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 12:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Queens Plate ==<br />
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A contested technical move request on which you commented is now at [[Talk:Queens Plate]]. - [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 17:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Roland (Japanese host) moved to Roland (entertainer) ==<br />
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Hello, and thank you for trying to help with the article. I'm not sure if 'entertainer' is the best description for this individual - he is at least as active as a businessperson as he is in any form of entertainment. I had added the host tag, as he is mainly known as such specifically. Could you help think of a more accurate description? Thanks, [[User:Londonbeat41692|Londonbeat41692]] ([[User talk:Londonbeat41692|talk]]) 00:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, thanks for reaching out. It's impossible to summarize somebody's entire life in one word - yet that's what we have to do when picking disambiguation tags :)<br />
:I moved the article because "Japanese host" is overly detailed (there is no [[Roland (host)]] article) and "entertainer" is a standard form recommended by [[WP:SINGERDAB]]. Of course, he is also involved in business, but I wouldn't say that "businessman" is more accurate. <br />
:For example, [[Drake (musician)]] is also a successful businessman ([[OVO Sound]]) and worked as an actor (''[[Degrassi: The Next Generation]]''), but he is best known as a musician, so we narrow it down to that. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 15:25, 21 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Nomination of [[:Lamberghini]] for deletion ==<br />
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The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamberghini]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.<br />
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==[[WP:DEPROD|Deprodding]] of [[:Calcium Lime Rust]]==<br />
I have removed the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} tag from [[:Calcium Lime Rust]], which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{Tlc|proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks!<!-- [[Template:Deprod]] --> [[User:LimonesMI|LimonesMI]] ([[User talk:LimonesMI|talk]]) 15:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Speedy deletion nomination of Bing Bong ==<br />
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Hello 162 etc.,<br />
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged [[Bing Bong]] for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.<br />
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If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can <span class="plainlinks">'''[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title={{urlencode:Talk:Bing Bong}}&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion]'''</span>, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.<br />
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You can leave a note on [[User_talk:Joseywales1961|my talk page]] if you have questions. Thanks!<br />
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[[User:Joseywales1961|<span style="color:green">''Josey Wales''</span>]]<sup> [[User talk:Joseywales1961|<span style="color:#0000CD">''Parley''</span>]]</sup> 20:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Reverted good-faith edit; the page had been vandalized. [[Bing Bong]] is a useful redirect to the dabpage at [[Bing-bong]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 20:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== A Barnstar for you ==<br />
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| style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray; color: black" | I'm surprised to see that the good work you've been doing for a while has been under-recognized. Thank you for your many well-reasoned contributions to requested move discussions. I'm grateful also for all the disambiguation pages (>100) and redirects (>1000) you've created. I'm sure our readers have benefited the effort you've put into pointing them in the right direction. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 19:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==[[NERO (video game)]]==<br />
Hello, 162 etc,<br />
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If you expect to do more [[WP:PROD|Proposed deletion]] tagging, a couple of things to put in mind. First, like making a nomination at [[WP:AFD|AFD]], you need to provide a deletion rationale for why this article or file should be deleted. Just writing "<nowiki>[[WP:N]]</nowiki>" isn't sufficient. Write at least one complete sentence to justify why this article merits deletion, just posting a code to a policy guidelines is not an explanation. [[WP:CSD|Speedy deletion]] allows you to tag pages for deletion with just a reference to a criteria for speedy deletion but PRODs and AFDs require editors to make an argument why a page should be deleted. It doesn't need to be long, but it has to be more than <nowiki>[[WP:N]]</nowiki>.<br />
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Second, you need to leave a descriptive edit summaries. PRODs can be de-PRODed. If, years later, another editor decides to PROD the article again, they need to be able to see that it has already been PROD'd once and the way they can see this is by looking at the edit summaries in the page history. This is made more difficult if you don't leave any edit summary at all! So, just write, "Proposing article for PROD" or even just "PROD" in your edit summary when you tag a page for Proposed deletion.<br />
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Finally, these processes are made easier if you start using [[WP:TWINKLE|Twinkle]] to tag pages for deletion or to tag them for other reasons. Twinkle is an editing tool most page patrollers and a lot of administrators use. For example, once you set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator", then Twinkle will post a deletion notice on the page creator's talk page for you. It will also leave a descriptive edit summary so you don't need to type one out. It remembers all of the codes and templates so you don't have to searching for the right one to use. It will maintain deletion logs for you. You can report vandals to noticeboards using Twinkle. It is very handy and I encourage you to try it out if you aren't already using it.<br />
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Just a few comments. Thank you for all of the work you are doing on the project! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 20:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:P.S. If you want to see some example of typical PROD deletion rationales offered by other editors, look over the list of upcoming Proposed deletions at [[User:DumbBOT/ProdSummary]] and you can see what I'm referring to. Some of these examples are better than others but you can see that the typical deletion rationale is at least a sentence. Thanks again. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 20:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WWE Day 1 (2022)]] ==<br />
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Hello 162 etc. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&diff=1118367252&oldid=1118363912 declined] the technical move that you proposed. Though I admit that the original actor, [[User:Zk911912]], should have sought consensus, anything that I can do now risks making a mess. Also, in your report you stated that someone had done merges. I couldn't see any merges. Thank you, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 17:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:{{ping|EdJohnston}} The mess has been made, I'm afraid; all three of these were separate articles, and were (somewhat messily) merged into what is currently [[WWE Day 1 (2022)]]. With all due respect to your good-faith attempt to resolve this, I've re-added the request to [[WP:RMT]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Luke Menzies ==<br />
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Hi. There is a move request in [[Talk:Luke Menzies]]. Can you give your opinion? Thanks. [[User:Margarte00|Margarte00]] ([[User talk:Margarte00|talk]]) 16:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi, thanks for the ping. I have to say that I'm not familiar enough with rugby (where Menzies first established his notability) to say for certain that his ring name is more recognizable than his birth name. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 18:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Weezy (disambiguation)]]==<br />
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==[[Super League (virtual sports)]]==<br />
Hello, 162 etc.,<br />
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When you tag an article for a [[WP:PROD|Proposed Deletion]], please write a more substantial deletion rationale than just [[WP:N]]. By that I mean, write at least one full sentence that shows you actually examined the sources or looked for additional sources to improve the article. I have de-PROD'd articles with similarly overly brief deletion rationales but this one did seem to lack notability. But please do this in the future if you wish your PROD deletion nominations to be taken seriously and not de-PROD'd. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 22:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== November 2022 ==<br />
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved, as you did to [[:Andover railway station]], without good reason. They should have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some [[Wikipedia:Article titles|guidelines]] in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the [[:testwiki:|test]] Wikipedia. Take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Welcome|welcome page]] to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. ''I have added this to the requested moves page, so this will be reverted soon.''<!-- Template:uw-move1 --> [[User:Mattdaviesfsic|Mattdaviesfsic]] ([[User talk:Mattdaviesfsic|talk]]) 06:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Andover railway station ==<br />
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Hi, the link to this staion on the Southampton railways template is not ambiguous, mit doesn't require the suffix |England. Regards [[User:Murgatroyd49|Murgatroyd49]] ([[User talk:Murgatroyd49|talk]]) 09:11, 17 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] It appears that you have been '''[[WP:Canvassing|canvassing]]'''—leaving messages on a biased choice at [[Talk:Anthony Jennings]] to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence [[:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Jennings (American football)]]. While [[Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification|friendly notices]] are allowed, they should be '''limited''' and '''nonpartisan''' in distribution and should reflect a [[WP:NPOV|'''neutral''' point of view]]. Please do not post notices which are [[Wikipedia:Canvassing#Spamming and excessive cross-posting|indiscriminately cross-posted]], which espouse a certain [[Wikipedia:Canvassing#Campaigning|point of view]] or side of a debate, or which are [[Wikipedia:Canvassing#Votestacking|selectively sent]] only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-canvass --> [[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 19:42, 25 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there. Thank you for striking the comment, but leaving the text where it is still visible and readable did not solve the problem of a non-neutral notification. It needed to be removed completely to follow policy at [[WP:CANVASSING]]. I therefore redacted your non-neutral comment entirely from the page, and left the neutral part of the notice. This is what should have done by you earlier. In the future, if a similar situation crops up you can not make any sort of evaluation or provide any sort of opinion on the discussion or its consensus when placing a notice. That is canvassing. Best.[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 17:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::I see you reverted it. Do I really need to take this to [[WP:ANI]]? I really don't want to, but I will if I must.[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 17:30, 26 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|4meter4}} You can't delete somebody else's comment. Take it to [[WP:ANI]] if you like. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:32, 26 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Sigh, I thought I was being helpful in moving it to a resolution, but clearly we are not there. I am just going to just let this go, rather than needlessly create drama for you at ANI. We both have better ways to spend our day. However, I think you are being unreasonable, unfair, rude, and breaking the spirit of our policies. I strongly urge you to redact the conversation entirely, because it is the right thing to do. It really shouldn't be a big deal to leave a brief neutral notice without commenting on the AFD discussion. Best.[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 17:36, 26 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::I understand your point of view, but disagree with it. I think we are both acting in good faith here. Thank you for your continued contributions to the encyclopedia. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:40, 26 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Dab pages==<br />
You have claimed [[MOS:DABORDER]] states "Blue links should be at the top", but nowhere does it state this (please quote what you mean), and the entry on IIII being for Roman numerals also has a blue article to link to. You have been the only Wikipedia editor to claim an album is the primary topic for a [[Roman numeral]]. IIII redirected there for years without ''any'' issue—that makes it the primary topic. If you cannot handle the primary entry on [[IIII]] being for where the page redirected for years, I will revert your converting of the article to being a dab page and it can be put to a discussion whether it should even ''be'' a dab page or not. The fact you think an album takes precedence over how many centuries of IV being written as IIII is honestly ridiculous. The fact that the two or three other moves you requested the other day (that I performed) were reverted because there was already a move discussion months ago that you'd seemingly ignored should tell you your opinions on disambiguation clearly don't match other editors' and I think you need to reconsider what you request. <b>[[User:Ss112|<span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Ss112|<span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span>]]</small></b> 23:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:I tend to agree and would support restoring the original redirect. That's not something that should be changed w/o discussion and consensus. I'm fine with a DAB existing. But IIII for the vast majority of people, is going to be a classical Roman Numeral and that's where it should point to. -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 00:16, 4 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
:See [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Example ordering]]; DABMENTION comes last. I'll leave the revert in for now, until the RM plays out. Discussion relating to "IIII" should be at [[Talk:IIII (album)]], not my talk page. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 17:48, 4 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== "Bold merges" ==<br />
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Hi 162 etc. Following the [[WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT|blank and redirect]] at [[Underwater ice hockey]] and the ensuing discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Underwater_ice_hockey&oldid=1133042708#Is_this_actually_a_thing%3F the talk page] and reversion, I feel that for due diligence I must ask whether you have done other blank and redirects described in edit summaries as bold merges, without an [[WP:Merger|actual merge]], and if so, whether you can justify them in terms of policy or community accepted guidance. Please ping with reply. &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 01:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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:See here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/162_etc.] [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 07:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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::I am familiar with the Special:Contributions page. I was hoping for a more cooperative response, which could have had this issue sorted out without wasting too much time, but you are not obliged to do that. I see from a search of your last 500 contributions that this was not an isolated incident.<br />
::Do you understand why "Bold merge" is not an acceptable edit summary for a "blank and redirect" edit, in which you do not merge any of the content into the target article, and there was in at least one case not even any mention of the redirected term in the target article? Please ping with reply. &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 18:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not really interested in discussing this further. If any of my edits are in violation of Wikipedia policy, please be bold and revert. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.#top|talk]]) 19:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
::::When your edits are in violation of Wikipedia policy, and it is pointed out to you, you are required to stop violating that policy, My questions were intended to help find out whether you are competent to follow Wikipedia policy, and whether you can be trusted to follow Wikipedia policy. I remain unconvinced on both of these points. I hereby warn you that if you continue to make intentionally misleading edit summaries it will be considered disruptive editing, and may lead to sanctions. &middot; &middot; &middot; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 20:53, 12 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Talk:Maël]] ==<br />
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Hello, would you please take a look a the newly put move at [[Talk:Maël#Requested_move_5_February_2023]].<br />
Thanks, [[Special:Contributions/121.127.212.32|121.127.212.32]] ([[User talk:121.127.212.32|talk]]) 13:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== OEG Inc. ==<br />
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{{u|162 etc.}}, Thank you so much for your recent contributions related to OEG Inc. and their retail cannabis work. While the page move is under discussion, I was wondering if you might consider improving the existing [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] article by introducing subsections within the Operations section? Something like '''Sports and Entertainment''' for all the sports teams, Rogers Place, and film content, and '''Retail Cannabis''' for the content you just added. Again, I appreciate the work you've already done and would value your help to make additional improvements to the page. Thank you [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Marc87&diff=1139351983User talk:Marc872023-02-14T18:01:52Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* OEG, Inc. Retail Cannabis */ new section</p>
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== A [[WP:barnstar|barnstar]] for your Canadian football work ==<br />
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== [[List of oldest NHL players]] ==<br />
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I was browsing Wikipedia and notice that you created the [[List of oldest NHL players]]. Aside from being horribly inaccurate (I can guarantee that there are not 128 year-old hockey players still living) it is complete [[WP:OR|original research]] and borderline unencyclopedic. For comparison, [[User:Canadian Paul/Hockey|my list]] is far closer to accurate and still has problems. I was going to flat out nominate this for deletion - however, upon thinking about [[List of oldest living Major League Baseball players]], the page may salvageable. So I guess my question would be, would you be willing to work with me on making more compliant with Wikipedia's guidelines? Cheers, [[User:Canadian Paul|CP]] 05:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for deletion]] nomination of [[:List of oldest NHL players]]==<br />
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|42px]]</div>I have nominated [[List of oldest NHL players]], an article that you created, for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of oldest NHL players]]. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. <!-- Template:AFDWarning --> '''[[User:IMatthew|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#000080">iMatthew</span>]]&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#007BA7">[[User talk:IMatthew|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#007BA7"><sup>talk</sup>]] [[User:IMatthew/Poll|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#007BA7"><sup>• take my poll</sup>]]</span>''' at 01:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Sorry about the article==<br />
Sorry that your article was put up for deletion, I am very impressed with the way it appears, and am surprised that you are practically the only person who made it. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 02:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== [[George Grigor]] ==<br />
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George Grigor is not still alive and did not make it to age 90. He died prior to 1992: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22late+George+Grigor%22&btnG=Search+Archives&ned=us&hl=en&scoring=a <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.243.6.249|209.243.6.249]] ([[User talk:209.243.6.249|talk]]) 05:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== [[Herbert Schibukat]] ==<br />
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Herbert Schibukat died June 1999 according to his page now. [[Special:Contributions/209.243.6.249|209.243.6.249]] ([[User talk:209.243.6.249|talk]]) 15:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Canada roster ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
Thanks for adding the Canada women's roster. Took you a while, I guess.<br />
[[User:LarRan|LarRan]] ([[User talk:LarRan|talk]]) 05:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Hockey rosters in the Olympics ==<br />
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Hi Marc.<br />
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It's brilliant that you're able to populate the Olympics hockey rosters, but it would be nice to have sources for them. There is a spot in the stub templates that is reserved for a reference to the source. Could you tell me where you found this info?<br />
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[[User:LarRan|LarRan]] ([[User talk:LarRan|talk]]) 21:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Ernie Laforce ==<br />
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Ernie Laforce died October 18, 2009: http://tanniesautographs.blogspot.com/2009/11/ernie-laforce.html [[Special:Contributions/96.52.12.116|96.52.12.116]] ([[User talk:96.52.12.116|talk]]) 01:42, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Also, Nick Damore died in 1994: http://www.hockeydb.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21406 [[Special:Contributions/96.52.12.116|96.52.12.116]] ([[User talk:96.52.12.116|talk]]) 16:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Re; [[ Tammy Plante]] article ==<br />
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== 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship ==<br />
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You did a lot of work on [[2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship]]. Have you ever thought of nominating it at [[WP:FLC]]?--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|BIO]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:FOUR]]) </small> 02:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Never thought of myself for being nominated. Sure, why not.<br />
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==IIHF 2010==<br />
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Hey fellow hokcey fan, whats the source for your edits here: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010_IIHF_World_Championship_rosters&curid=27009206&diff=359154561&oldid=359152387]? [[User:Slaja|Slaja]] ([[User talk:Slaja|talk]]) 02:14, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Volley ==<br />
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I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on [[Yekaterina Gamova]], [[Hélia Souza]], [[Serena Ortolani]] and [[Kenia Carcaces]] for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 21:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Your Olympic List ==<br />
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is missing [[Freddie Dunkelman]] (90 years, 168 days), [[John P. Riley, Jr.]] (90+ years), and [[Heini Lohrer]] (92+ years). [[Special:Contributions/97.75.193.97|97.75.193.97]] ([[User talk:97.75.193.97|talk]]) 18:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And [[Albert Renaud]]. [[Special:Contributions/96.52.5.187|96.52.5.187]] ([[User talk:96.52.5.187|talk]]) 13:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[Beat Rüedi]]. [[Special:Contributions/68.148.133.15|68.148.133.15]] ([[User talk:68.148.133.15|talk]]) 23:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Nomination for deletion of [[Template:Edmonton Oilers staff]] ==<br />
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==Thank you for your work on Wikipedia==<br />
Hello Marc, Thank for all your corrections in Women's Hockey pages. Maybe you can help me for my photo take a good place on this page [[User:Genevieve2/sandbox01]]. The page is not finish for a Wikipedia page.Pass a good week-end. Enjoy, --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 14:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hey Chinese Taipei is announced as if the word Chinese is not in the name, read this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Taipei] [[User:Intoronto1125|Intoronto1125]] ([[User talk:Intoronto1125|talk]]) 20:55, 27 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==a special Thanks, un gros Merci==<br />
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==Work Together for World Women's championship==<br />
Bonjour Marc, the [[2011 IIHF Women's World Championship]] runs from April 16-25 in Zurich and Winterthur, Switzerland. I would like to write pages (or improve the existing pages) on the differents Women national teams. As my English language is poor, would be you available to correct my texts before publishing them on Wikipedia? I wrote also at [[User talk:Maple Leaf|Maple Leaf]] for correct another pages. We have already 10 pages which were corrected. Now were is Germany women's national ice hockey team [[User:Genevieve2/sandbox0334]] , if you will to correct my poor English language. Please your opinion and your advice, Thanks, Merci beaucoup de vos conseils --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 14:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==DYK for Blake Geoffrion==<br />
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== A kitten for you! ==<br />
Thanks Marc for your work in women hockey pages. Je vous remercie, תודה על העצה שלך ----[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 12:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Special Award for Marc ==<br />
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==A WikiProject for women in the sports==<br />
Bonjour Marc, please read this [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Women's Sport ]] , bon week-end --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 11:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==captain in women's national teams==<br />
Thank so much for your additions in the various pages, Best regards --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 11:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Women's Hockey task force==<br />
Bonjour à tous, Hello Everybody, that think you of the eventuality of future a ''women's hockey task force ? Your ideas, opinions, criticisms and advices are welcome on [[ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey]]. Thanks, merci, תודה --[[User:Genevieve2|Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 14:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
==Barnstar==<br />
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== NHL family relations ==<br />
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I've already agreed with Raven, to allow a wider inclusion criteria. Please, either join the discussion there 'or' ease off the CAPITAL letterings in your edit summaries. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==2011 CWHL Draft==<br />
Hi. I just wanted to say that you did a superlative job expanding the 2011 CWHL Draft. [[User:Maple Leaf|Maple Leaf]] ([[User talk:Maple Leaf|talk]]) 20:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== [[List of family relations in the NHL]] ==<br />
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Howdy. Why do you keep deleting Bernie & Blake Geoffrion from the grandfather & grandson section? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 18:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Grandfather & grandson section says, "This category is for such pairings not already listed in the "Father-Son" section above."<br />
::Oh, cool. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 19:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Repetitive deletion of Information on the Ross Sheppard page==<br />
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Hi, I have noticed that you have deleted quite and amount of information from the Ross Sheppard wikipedia page after every edit that I contribute. It is rather annoying and I would request that you please stop this, as the information is accurate and have been approved by a current teacher of Ross Sheppard. I am currently a student attending Ross Sheppard and I was requested upon a teacher and was authorized to help "revamp" the page. --[[User:Sheppie14|Sheppie14]] ([[User talk:Sheppie14|talk]]) 21:07, 11 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Careful that you don't run afoul of [[WP:3RR]]. I haven't audited all your reverts—some may be removal of bad image links, for instance–but on the surface, I count more than three in the last 24 hours. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:55, 11 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Happy new year Marc==<br />
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-U75-2dv4&feature=related Happy new year], my best wishes of health and happiness for year 2012. Je vous offre mes meilleurs vœux de santé et de bonheur pour l'année 2012, ושל אושר לשנה 2012. --[[User:Genevieve2|Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 10:01, 7 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Jenny Lavigne ==<br />
[[File:AnimWIKISTAR-laurier-WT.gif|thumb|center|300px|Merci pour vos corrections Marc, je suis toujours heureuse de travailler avec vous.<br />
Thank you for your corrections Marc, I am always happy to work with you.--[[User:Genevieve2|Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève ]] ([[User talk:Genevieve2|talk]]) 09:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)]]<br />
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== Hockey players ==<br />
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[[Oscar Aubuchon]], [[Armand Raymond]], [[George McNaughton]], [[Gaston Leroux (ice hockey)]], and [[Conrad Bourcier]] all have death dates now. [[Special:Contributions/24.128.51.156|24.128.51.156]] ([[User talk:24.128.51.156|talk]]) 00:05, 25 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Miroslav Kluc]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/24.128.51.156|24.128.51.156]] ([[User talk:24.128.51.156|talk]]) 20:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
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My reasons for trimming the page were clearly stated on the article talk page. Rather than revert out of hand, especially when those reversions are contrary to Wikipedia's content guidelines for notability and non-notable lists, it needs to be discussed first, which I am more than happy to do on the article talk page. [[User:MSJapan|MSJapan]] ([[User talk:MSJapan|talk]]) 04:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hello...I'm habfan789. I hope I'm doing this correctly. There are 2 things. First of all, George Sullivan is 84 years and 3 days. So he can be added to the 84 to 89 years old group. Also, Pete Babando is a few days older that Ralph Nattrass in the 84 to 89 group. Babando should be no. 9, and Nattrass no.10.<br />
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HELLO...This is Tony Medici of habfan789 again, and again, I'm not familiar with how to send you a proper Wikipedia Message. Anyhow on your age 83 to 89 years old NHL player list, player number 10 BOB SOLINGER died on December 10, 1925. He was born on December 23, 1925<br />
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Wanted to drop by and thank you for maintaining this list which I've referred to the past month in researching to find the dates of death for these players. One thing though - the Alvin Fisher DOB we had was incorrect so as of now it's unknown. Thanks! – [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 05:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[[Bill Phillips (ice hockey) ]] can be added...we previously had his DOD confused with [[Merlyn Phillips]]'. Also [[Art Brooks]] was a goalie, not a winger. Thanks so much for maintaining this again! – [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 01:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[Vladimír Zábrodský]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/184.187.183.118|184.187.183.118]] ([[User talk:184.187.183.118|talk]]) 15:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Alfred Bieler]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/184.187.183.118|184.187.183.118]] ([[User talk:184.187.183.118|talk]]) 17:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::[[Ralph Warburton]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/70.179.5.27|70.179.5.27]] ([[User talk:70.179.5.27|talk]]) 05:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::[[Joe Bell]] died recently. [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 01:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::We now have [[Bert Burry]]'s full DOD - he died aged 93. [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 18:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Also just got [[Doug Jackson]]'s obituary which verifies his DOD as April 26, 1980. [[User:Connormah|Connormah]] ([[User talk:Connormah|talk]]) 01:23, 6 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[Robert Meyers (ice hockey)]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/70.179.5.27|70.179.5.27]] ([[User talk:70.179.5.27|talk]]) 05:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::[[Viktor Shuvalov]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/70.179.5.27|70.179.5.27]] ([[User talk:70.179.5.27|talk]]) 07:12, 12 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::::[[Dino Menardi]] for the Olympics - died over 90: http://necrologie.corrierealpi.gelocal.it/necrologi/2014/547208-menardi-dino and per SIHR. [[Special:Contributions/128.54.14.174|128.54.14.174]] ([[User talk:128.54.14.174|talk]]) 16:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::::[[Unto Wiitala]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 19:17, 10 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::[[Hans Scarsini]] for the Olympics - died over 90: http://www.pax-requiem.at/web/decedent/4429. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 16:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::[[Murray Dowey]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 06:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::[[Adolf Hafner]] for the Olympics - still alive at 90: http://www.eishockey.at/news/datum/2015/01/07/herzlichen-glueckwunsch-adolf-hafner/<br />
::::::::::::[[Eugeniusz Lewacki]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 07:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::[[Ted Hibberd]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 20:01, 23 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::[[Len Ceglarski]] and [[Gordon Robertson (ice hockey)]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/68.101.207.3|68.101.207.3]] ([[User talk:68.101.207.3|talk]]) 15:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::[[Tadeusz Adamowski]] now has a full DOD. [[Special:Contributions/68.150.179.29|68.150.179.29]] ([[User talk:68.150.179.29|talk]]) 14:55, 29 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::[[Pentti Isotalo]] for the Olympics. [[Special:Contributions/90.207.95.20|90.207.95.20]] ([[User talk:90.207.95.20|talk]]) 23:46, 19 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::::[[Conny Staudinger]] for the Olympics: [http://www.tt.com/panorama/leute/7646409-91/hoangaschten-%C3%BCber-die-legende-kitzb%C3%BChel.csp]. [[Special:Contributions/176.253.165.166|176.253.165.166]] ([[User talk:176.253.165.166|talk]]) 14:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::::[[Mario Bedogni]] for the Olympics. He did not die in 2012, but on September 26, 2017: [http://www.hockeytime.net/2017/09/26/scomparso-mario-bedogni/]. [[Special:Contributions/2601:40B:C200:7B08:3856:A866:1951:2342|2601:40B:C200:7B08:3856:A866:1951:2342]] ([[User talk:2601:40B:C200:7B08:3856:A866:1951:2342|talk]]) 15:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Edmonton Eskimos all-time records and statistics]] ==<br />
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Greetings! I see you've made a number of reverts to [[Edmonton Eskimos all-time records and statistics]] but have not explained your reasoning for the edits. Discussion on the talk page is clearly in order at this time.<br />
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I suggest you revert your most recent edit to avoid any issues with the [[WP:3RR|three revert rule]] and instead discuss the matter at [[Talk:Edmonton Eskimos all-time records and statistics]], to get some measure of whether there is support for the changes. Thank you. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 03:03, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Good advice '''C.Fred''', I have posted my thought on this matter today. I await your reply.<br />
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== User Habfan789 ==<br />
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User is willy nilly making changes to hockey player articles, claiming that a website called SIHR has more accurate information. User is also saying so in the body of the articles, rather than using citations, and is frankly making a mess of things. Not sure that SIHR has any credibility; requires signing in to view the info, and I suspect the content is, like wikipedia, user-generated and therefore not reliable. I have come across you in hockey editing before which is why I thought I would tell you. Not sure where to take this. User edit history here: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Habfan789] [[User:Echoedmyron|Echoedmyron]] ([[User talk:Echoedmyron|talk]]) 04:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:SIHR is not (just) a website. It designates the [[Society for International Hockey Research]], an organization with more than 500 members, which holds two meetings per year and publishes a quarterly Bulletin as well as a yearly Research Journal. It has a database of more than 200,000 players and more than 1.1 million lines of stats. Those stats are not user-generated, only a handful of members have authorization to make edits. Each edit should be judged on its own merits, but the SIHR database, while not-publicly accessible, is extremely reliable. --[[User:Mpj81|Mpj81]] ([[User talk:Mpj81|talk]]) 13:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Leo Komarov ==<br />
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What do you not understand about [[WP:NOCONSENSUS]]: ''"In discussions of proposals to add, modify or remove material in articles, a lack of consensus commonly results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit."''? --[[User:Nug|Nug]] ([[User talk:Nug|talk]]) 22:43, 1 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== List of mayors of Edmonton ==<br />
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Where are you getting your dates and information? [[User:117Avenue|117Avenue]] ([[User talk:117Avenue|talk]]) 01:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hello Marc87, I hope I'm doing this correctly. I really like your site where you list NHL'ers aged over 90 both alive or deceased, and all living NHL'ers aged 84 to 89. I just thought I'd let you know that there is a new player who reached 84 years of age. It's Andy Hebenton.<br />
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== Edmonton municipal election, 2013 ==<br />
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Please stop making unreferenced additions to [[Edmonton municipal election, 2013]], they are a BLP violation. Also, campaign sites can't be used, as they are [[WP:BLPSPS|self published]]. Thanks, [[User:117Avenue|117Avenue]] ([[User talk:117Avenue|talk]]) 05:39, 7 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hello Marc87. In the 84 to 89 age group, 2 hockey players have died and death dates provided in their Wikipedia section. Hal Murphy on Oct.12, 1976, and Leo Gravelle on Oct.30, 2013. Both have been updated, so you can remove them from the 84 to 89 age group.<br />
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Also in the very last section that has 10 olayers that have no death dates, 2 have been found and updated on their individual Wikipedia sites. They are Maurice Courteau, and Charles Crotch. You can remove them from that section.<br />
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Other than that, I love your site. I go on it every dat.<br />
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There's nothing in [[Gregory Reyes]] saying he owns or owned the San Jose Sharks. If you have something that says he did, please add it to the article (with appropriate citation) and ''then'' add the category once that is supported by the article content. Thanks! [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 02:18, 4 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. Please don't remove the categories of where they live. It's referenced.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 22:26, 17 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::Why do you keep removing Category:People from Bel Air? They own a house there; it's referenced. This is incredibly annoying.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 22:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== NHL Relations edit ==<br />
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Why are you removing information from the NHL relations page?<br />
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Both Hamilton brothers are playing in the Calgary Flames organization - this type of information is included throughout the article (see: Benn brothers, O'Reilly brothers, Samuelsson brothers, Schenn brothers, Sedin brothers, Staal brothers, etc.)<br />
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Maybe the Sauve uncle-nephew relationships do not need to be there as if you read all the siblings, parent-child, and cousins sections it is deductible, but I personally don't think that clarification is clutter. Same goes with the Kearns and Lukowich relationships. Yes, the information is there if you read every section and deduce, but why not provide that information explicitly.<br />
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And why would you remove the Brickley cousins? Both are/were NHL players, and 1st cousins, once-removed, are closer in relation than the plethora of second cousins, and especially the third cousins such as the Carkners and Pietrangelos, or the "distant cousins" of Clark&Melrose and Kocur.<br />
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:This talk page is on my watchlist for some forgotten reason, and I saw the above note about [[Kevin Kemp]], and yes, I see no evidence of him being dead since 1999. In fact, I found these articles suggesting he's very much alive (at least as of January of this year). Not sure why he's a Senators Alumni if he retired from hockey on the early 80s, perhaps simply because he's from Ottawa? But definitely the same guy. [http://senators.ice.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=74748], [http://www.yukon-news.com/multimedia/hockey-day-in-whitehorse/], [http://wcmha.ca/news.php?news_id=1271370]. I have updated his article to be a living person once again and added a couple of these links as refs. [[User:Echoedmyron|Echoedmyron]] ([[User talk:Echoedmyron|talk]]) 13:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:::the main criterion for Senators alumni is, indeed, living in the area, which is why Kemp is active with them, yes. [[User:Researchguy|Researchguy]] ([[User talk:Researchguy|talk]]) 14:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Hi {{u|Marc87}}, as the COI editor for [[Daryl Katz]] and [[Oilers Entertainment Group|OEG Inc.]], I am looking for some help in implementing a [[Talk:Oilers Entertainment Group|pending edit request]] regarding OEG Inc.'s entrance into the retail cannabis market. I saw your interest in [[WP: Canada|Canada-related content]] as well as your previous edits to similar and related pages and would appreciate your review and implementation of this request. Thank you so much! [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:OEG_Inc.&diff=1139351836Talk:OEG Inc.2023-02-14T18:01:03Z<p>DJ for Katz: </p>
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I am looking to add some content about OEG's recent work to this article, specifically about the Group's 2019 entry into retail cannabis, as supported by these sources:<br />
*https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/<br />
*https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/<br />
*https://www.oeg.ca/our-businesses/retail-cannabis (a primary source, only for reference)<br />
Similarly, the abovementioned sources reflect the rebranding of Oilers Entertainment Group as OEG Inc. Can the article be renamed accordingly? [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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[[:Oilers Entertainment Group]] → {{no redirect|OEG Inc.}} – Oilers Entertainment Group recently rebranded, now known as OEG Inc. substantiated by [https://www.oeg.ca/about-us][https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/] and [https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/]. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Meters&diff=1138441350User talk:Meters2023-02-09T18:31:30Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* OEG, Inc. Retail Cannabis */ new section</p>
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Ummm he’s my uncle, all of what he did is certified with sources. He told me today exactly how he wants his page. It’s not an unnecessary edit. Stop changing how HE wants his image to be made public. I don’t mean to come off as rude, but come on man. [[Special:Contributions/166.194.132.69|166.194.132.69]] ([[User talk:166.194.132.69|talk]]) 04:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
#It's not '''his''' article. It's Wikipedia's article '''about''' him.<br />
#It does not matter what he wants to see in the article. It's about what reliable sources say about him. We're not going to include unsourced content ort puffery on your say so.<br />
#Since he is your uncle you have a conflict of interest in editing the article. Please read [[WP:COI]]. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 08:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Article in question is [[Arnie Bernstein]] [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 05:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Sockpuppetry block ==<br />
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Hello, Meters. It appears that someone who is technically indistinguishable from you from a CheckUser perspective logged into the vandalism-only account {{checkuser|JudahM2305}} on June 11, 2022. The nature of the technical data make it seem extremely likely that you or someone you know performed this particular login (as opposed to, say, accidentally appearing on the same IP as someone in a coffee shop). Based on this information, a checkuser has blocked your account. This is quite a surprising situation to see, especially in light of your long history on this project. We would be interested in hearing whether you have an explanation for the technical evidence. Thanks, [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 18:10, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{replyto|Mz7|RoySmith}} Wow. '''One minute''' from reporting a positive CU on me to indef'ing an editor with a clean block history... I would have appreciated being asked to explain this seemingly bizarre situation before being blocked. <br />
:I think you had better recheck the CU results. I only edit from one particular desktop, on a semi static IP, on a major Canadian ISP, and no-one else in this household has access to this machine. I have no reason to know what IP I am usually on as I never edit logged out, but CU evidence should confirm that I rarely change IPs. I believe the ISP does occasionally rotate IPs (thus '''semi static''' rather than '''static'''). <br />
:So, if the IP in question was used by {{user1|JudahM2305}} shortly before or after I had that IP then it is just a coincidence. I'm on Wikipedia every day so it should be obvious to CU when my IP changed in that case. <br />
:If JudahM2305's use of the IP overlaps mine during the four days that account was in operation but is from a different machine, then it was someone else. There are other machines running the same OS as my machine on my network, but I never use any of them. I don't know if CU can actually distinguish between different machines with the same OS on the same IP, but no-one else in my family has the slightest interest in Wikipedia so I highly doubt it was them, and we have had no visitors who would have had access to those machines or to our wireless network on those dates. <br />
:Someone could be hacking our wifi signal, but that also seems unlikely. <br />
:That's all I can say without access to the CU info. If someone wants to email me with details I'll tell them whatever I can.<br />
:Please copy this to [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/JudahM2305]] since I cannot. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 22:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hi Meters. I've had a look at the data as well, and here's what it looks like:<br />
::* You have been on exactly one IP for the CU data retention period.<br />
::* Other than this specific instance, nobody else has edited from this IP.<br />
::* On June 11, around 1900 UTC (if I've got my time conversions right), someone on your IP successfully logged in as JudahM2305. This was followed about one minute later by someone with the same useragent logging in to your account (getting the password incorrect once).<br />
::I have an educated guess about what happened, but I'd like to hear if you have any thoughts. [[User:GeneralNotability|GeneralNotability]] ([[User talk:GeneralNotability|talk]]) 22:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::On June 11 I was active until 09:00 UTC, and then continuously from 18:18 to 19:41 UTC. JudahM2305 was active that day from 17:04 to 17:12, and from 19:50 to 23:00 (blocked at 20:08). <br />
:::I don't know what else I can say. Something's wrong. It wasn't me. I don't normally log out of Wikipedia, but no-one else in this household has access to this machine or has ever even made a Wikipedia edit, on any machine, and I see no evidence that my account has been compromised. I've been on the same IP for whatever the duration of CU logs is. Was JudahM2305 on the same IP for all 4 days? Were the other socks all on the same IP as me? <br />
:::Was my wifi hacked? Possible but unlikely. Has someone hacked my wifi '''and''' compromised my Wikipedia account? Even less likely. Was there a CU data corruption? Possible, but unlikely. After 15 blemish-free years with this Wikipedia account did I suddenly start making stupid edits and penis jokes like a 12-year-old? Up to the CUs to decide. <br />
:::Bit of a Catch 22 here... I'm the oldest account by 15 years but I'm not listed as the sockmaster, so according to the rules I'm not even allowed to request an unblock from my account (and of course I'm claiming that I can't access the sockmaster's account). The SPI is "on hold" (whatever that means) but I'm still blocked. Zero behavioural evidence, one strange data blip, and I'm indef'ed. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 03:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Mystery solved thanks to some off-Wiki hints from GeneralNotability (thanks). Some user posted what appeared to be a password. I tried it, was surprised to get in, and immediately logged out. I don't remember the account, but it was likely {{user1|Judahmart}} since the editor's first edit has been oversighted. I don't remember why I didn't then report the account as compromised, but I'm guessing it was because it was already up for a block or seemed to heading for one and I didn't want to open the Streisand effect can of worms. The post was blanked minutes after being made so I may even have seen that and just left it. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 04:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hello Meters. Just a couple of comments, as I have also taken a look at the situation. We tend to leave SPIs 'on hold' where a result is significant and probably doesn't make sense, and when it's placed for review among other CUs. You are still entitled to request unblock from this account, though TBH it's probably worth just addressing anything directly with [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] or one of the other CUs you've seen recently. I would expect RoySmith to turn up soon anyway, but would also urge him to reverse the block. Judahmart's first edit is still visible,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AJudahmart%2Fsandbox] and says "JudahM2305 2nd profile butt my password is [...]". This was approximately 4 minutes before you would have logged into it. I can see how this particular type of disclosure is quite a temptation. This has caught out quite a few people in the past, and in my opinion, especially given the technical data, it's overwhelmingly likely that this is what happened here. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 08:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::I will be unblocking this account in a moment. I'll follow up off-wiki. -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 13:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
* Glad to see you’re back with us. --[[User:Malcolmxl5|Malcolmxl5]] ([[User talk:Malcolmxl5|talk]]) 13:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
The above discussion brings to light potential discrepancies within the CU system ''(which may then lead to investigative mistakes and/or incompletenesses)'', as Meters is a longstanding trusted WP user.<br />
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In real-world locations with public Wi-Fi where many people come and go for short durations while using computers (''i.e. [[Library|libraries]]/[[Internet cafe]]s/[[coffehouse]]s'') and the IP address stays the same for weeks or months in a row, two different Wikipedians who happen to go to that public place on different days could be editing WP using their own unique accounts, and they may end up being suspected of socking (''as Meters has just been'') even though the two Wikipedians might have ''zero awareness of each other's WP or real-world existence'' until they are "caught" by CU.<br />
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The CU system does not seem to distinguish between ''an IP in a private household'', and ''an IP in a busy public place'' that has hundreds of random strangers individually using the network for an hour or two in drive-by fashion over multiple weeks/months.<br />
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The one-size-fits-all nature by which CU appears to assess IP networks may be allowing occurrences such as this ''Meters incident'' to happen; I believe Meters is innocent. <br />
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:P.S. — The good faith and civility offered by all involved here may have spared Meters a trip to the hot seat of an SPI. [[Special:Contributions/73.189.14.150|73.189.14.150]] ([[User talk:73.189.14.150|talk]]) 20:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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* I'm glad we cleared up the misunderstanding! I also figured there had to have been some mistake here. For the record, in response to the IP above, checkusers ''are'' generally able to distinguish between deliberate use of multiple accounts and the case where two people are using public Wi-Fi and just happen to share the same IP temporarily (e.g. in libraries and coffee shops). In this case, as Meters explained above, they themselves did indeed log into the vandalism-only account mentioned above, because that account had publicly disclosed their own password. This was not a case where "two Wikipedians might have zero awareness of each other's WP or real-word existence". [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 00:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
**Yes, this was a genuine CU hit, and had nothing to do with shared IPs. I didn't initially recall the incident, let alone the specific account or the password, but weeks ago I tested an exposed credential. I expected the user to still be logged in and thus was expecting to be able to test the validity of the password without actually logging in (with an "already logged in" error if it was valid). Unfortunately the user had already logged out and thus I was actually logged into another account for a few seconds. I don't remember why I didn't immediately report the at account as a compromised account for a block. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 06:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Sean Young... ==<br />
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I posted that Sean Young attended Lakeside High School in 1972-73. I have her email address if you want to write to her to confirm. [[Special:Contributions/74.105.73.97|74.105.73.97]] ([[User talk:74.105.73.97|talk]]) 04:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If she attended the school just provide a reliable source that says so. I'm not emailing someone that you claim is her, and that would not be an acceptable verification even if I did. If you are in contact with her, then you can ask her to publish a mention of her having attended the school, A webpage or social media that is confirmed to belong to her would suffice. If you are the same user who previously attempted to justify her inclusion with a picture of someone in a hat and a personal recollection that "she always wore a hat," please reread what I wrote then. Her bio does not mention this school, or even the state it is in, even though it does mention at least other one school she briefly attended but did not graduate from, so we're going to need definite proof that she attended this school. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 05:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Southgate==<br />
Hi, please stop replacing almost all of the anchor stores on Southgate Centre with American Eagle. American Eagle is way too small to be an anchor. And also you deleted all of my hard work. Please stop this now. [[User:Rowanlovescars|Rowanlovescars]] ([[User talk:Rowanlovescars|talk]]) 04:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Pleases top adding unsourced material. I am simply listing the anchor stores as listed by the cited mall web page. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 17:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::por que ya estoy harto [[Special:Contributions/2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1|2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1]] ([[User talk:2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1|talk]]) 19:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:Infobox units ==<br />
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Thank you for messaging me. The template documentation for {{tl|Infobox unit}} seems to be inconsistent with the example that you refer to:<br />
* "standard: The unit system ([[system of measurement]]) of which the unit is a part (e.g. [[SI]])"<br />
* The actual label that appears is "'''[[System of measurement|Unit system]]'''".<br />
The examples, on the other hand, use a category/type of unit. The suggests that either the examples or both what is rendered ''and'' the documentation parameter description must change. This, I guess, would be a matter for discussion at the template. My changes were completely reasonable given what is displayed and I expect are likely to recur, but if you feel that the information given should be the such as in the examples, perhaps you'd like to canvass the community about the template consistency? [[Special:Contributions/172.82.46.195|172.82.46.195]] ([[User talk:172.82.46.195|talk]]) 22:13, 23 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If there's an inconsistency between the documentation and the examples then it should indeed be cleared up. Since you are the one attempting a blanket change of long-standing usage (of many years) across multiple articles I suggest that you start the discussion. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 22:21, 23 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I have seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelvin&diff=next&oldid=1073462867 this change made by someone else] before, hence my expectation of it recurring. Is it for either of us to start the discussion? I guess that depends on what we are interested in. At least, I'll try to remember this and avoid doing the same again. [[Special:Contributions/172.82.46.195|172.82.46.195]] ([[User talk:172.82.46.195|talk]]) 22:48, 23 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::As I pointed out, you are attempting to make a blanket change of long-standing usage across multiple articles. It's up to you to get consensus for the change. One uncontested change to one article five months ago is not sufficient justification. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 00:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Perhaps you did not read properly what I wrote. To be clear: above I expressed my intention of avoiding making any further such change. I even tried to be helpful by pointing out a similar change that you might be inclined to realign with the dominant usage. [[Special:Contributions/172.82.46.195|172.82.46.195]] ([[User talk:172.82.46.195|talk]]) 02:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you are content to leave the articles the way they are, and don't wish to raise the issue of the supposed discrepancy on the infobox's talk page, then we're done. Please drop this. In fact, what was the point of raising it here? And that's rhetorical question. Please don't continue this thread to answer it. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 03:04, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Please block Zvfibkoj ==<br />
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Hi. Can you please block [[User talk:Zvfibkoj|Zvfibkoj]], or at least lock [[2022 monkeypox outbreak]] so they can't edit it? This person has repeatedly been warned, and is hurling abuse at everyone trying to stop them from disrupting that article. I'm sorry if I was supposed to write this somewhere else instead. I'm reaching out to you specifically, because you are the one who warned Zvfibkoj on their talk page. Thank you in advance. - [[Special:Contributions/87.58.119.203|87.58.119.203]] ([[User talk:87.58.119.203|talk]]) 01:51, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not an admin so I can't block the user, but I can report him for violating [[WP:3RR]], blanking content, and making personal attacks, as could you. I'll give the user one last chance to stop. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 03:11, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::They did not take that chance so I've blocked them for 24 hours. If they continue after the block expires, then please report them at an appropriate noticeboard. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 12:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Continued so indef'ed, socked as [[User:Susvdhd]], page semied one month. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 17:04, 24 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Zellers ==<br />
[[File:Information icon4.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:ANI-notice--> [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 18:54, 29 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for opening it. Unfortunately I think it's the only way we're going to be able to deal with this editor. Let the Mafia robot asteroid mining animal planting discussion begin! [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::And Canadiansteve indef'ed. That was quick. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:43, 29 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::And now [[user:Zellers Canada]] [[user:Zellers Inc ]] and [[user:RobertMMoniz]] are all CU socks of [[user:Canadiansteve]] [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::And [[user:Stevecanadian]] and [[user:Robert Manuel Moniz]] [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 03:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thanks so much for tidying up [[Longmeadow High School]], it really needed the fixes! [[User:GuardianH|GuardianH]] ([[User talk:GuardianH|talk]]) 17:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No probs. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:02, 31 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Incident report ==<br />
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I added diffs to the incident report. Thank you. [[User:NetHelper|NetHelper]] ([[User talk:NetHelper|talk]]) 21:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Please read my comments at ANI. You have '''not''' provided diffs, and what has the IP done that warrants a trip to ANI without even a userpage warning? [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 07:55, 7 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Justin Best ==<br />
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In [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Best]] you cited [[WP:NOLYMPICS]]. I have a long history with [[WP:NSPORT]], though apparently my last edit to the page was in 2014. Since then I've been in several discussion regarding notability of Olympic athletes in particular. Apparently precedent is as valuable in Wikipedia as it is in the U.S. Supreme Court (useless). If they don't like the decision, go find a less informed set of jurors. Mom says no, lets go ask Dad. We had established that an athlete who PARTICIPATES in the Olympics is notable. No quibbles. We assumed if they had achieved participation in the highest level of their respective sport, there WILL be a history leading up to it establishing [[WP:GNG]]. So essentially that was your accusation about Justin Best, that there was no coverage. Did you look? [[WP:BEFORE]]. As I proved, you failed to find legitimate coverage of this individual easily available on the first page of Google. You're a good editor, you should know better. Most of the NOMs are, with no better phrasing, incompetent. I have been through numerous AfDs. Nobody seems capable of operating Google, much less other search engines. These incompetent people then USE their inability to find anything as a justification for the removal of legitimate, notable content from Wikipedia. They easily get an echo chamber of incompetent editors with no care for the value of Wikipedia content to support them. They seem happy to censor content from the eyes of the rest of the world. Like its a virtue to them. The few people like me are one armed paperhangers fighting the mass of IDIOTIC deletions. Its impossible. We MUST assume coverage exists. If it doesn't exist, it is most likely the failure of search engines, not the absence of the content. Go ahead, [[prove a negative]]. So the point of this is the (to me) new specifications of [[WP:NOLYMPICS]] are wrong. We should not open the door for incompetent people to ruin Wikipedia. This specification needs to be changed back. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 07:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not interested in rehashing the consensus on whether Olympic athletes are notable simply for having participated. This is not the place for it. Take your rant somewhere else.<br />
:As for the AFD, did you bother to read it? I clearly said that I looked for significant coverage without success. When sources were found I thanked the editors, said that I didn't know how I had missed them, and quickly withdrew the nomination. Please drop this. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 07:49, 7 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Fwiw I was just coming here to thank you for being big enough to withdraw the AfD for this chap once sources were found. Not enough people do that. [[User:Blue Square Thing|Blue Square Thing]] ([[User talk:Blue Square Thing|talk]]) 08:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits on Central California Coast page ==<br />
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Just messing around because I was tired of someone named fettlemap reverting my minor edits expressing known facts from my experience as a native of the Central California coast region, to wit, that people who live in the four most northerly counties (Santa Cruz, San Benito, Monterey, and San Luis Obispo) of the six listed in the article consider Santa Barbara and Ventura counties to be part of Southern California. I don't have an article or reference to cite – it is based on my personal experience. [[User:WillO&#39;theGlen|WillO&#39;theGlen]] ([[User talk:WillO&#39;theGlen|talk]]) 05:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Your "personal experience" is [[WP:OR]] and is not a source we can verify or use. See [[WP:V]] and [[WP:RS]]. The article does contain a source that mention '''six''' counties. It is disruptive for you to make an unsourced change to four. It is not a minor edit, particularly when you have already been undone by [[user:Fettlemap]]. Either discuss this on the article's talk page or leave it alone. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 06:01, 12 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== 9-multiples (just add a simple Count Back to Make10) ==<br />
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Hi Meters,<br />
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You erased the new method I posted for calculating the 9-multiples, and indicated that it was “not an improvement.”<br />
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This is easy to resolve. A calculation with fewer, simpler steps is an improvement, right?<br />
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The method that you erased (Minus 1 / Make10) uses ONE number and two of the simplest operations in math.<br />
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Method 2 (that you re-posted) involves juggling multiple numbers and a VERY complex step: “make the sum of the tens digit and ones digit equivalent to nine” This is way too slow to replace memorization. Method 2 serves no purpose given there is a much simpler method.<br />
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The Hands Method (Method 1) is useful, but should be reserved for students with learning challenges. It takes more time to learn and execute than adding a simple Count Back to Make10. Using hands to calculate the 9s is too slow to replace memorization.<br />
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Even if the steps/complexity were the same for the methods we are discussing, this new method uses Make10 as its basis. Make10 is something we WANT students to practice - not using their hands. Make10 is the start of mental math: breaking apart numbers and putting back together. It takes less than a minute to teach the 9-multiples to a student that knows Make10. This is one of the first practical applications of Make10 for an early elementary student.<br />
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This new method saves students an hour or two otherwise spent memorizing the 9-multiples.<br />
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No other method does that. <br />
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I look forward to your reply.<br />
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Greg [[User:GregWelch8|GregWelch8]] ([[User talk:GregWelch8|talk]]) 11:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If you are going to ask about an edit please provide a diff to the edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Multiplication_table&diff=1104270509&oldid=1104269839], or at least a link to the article in question [[Multiplication table]]. <br />
:In my opinion, the whole "Patterns in the tables" section is a mess that should be rewritten and trimmed. And the given examples of methods for multiplication (hands or other) don't belong in this section, or in the article at all for that matter since they are not dependent on the multiplication table at all. Your addition was not simply the replacement of one hands method with another that you prefer. You also deleted the very simple and straightforward "Method two", added a lengthy blurb, added multiple [[WP:MOS]] violations, and used non-encyclopedic language. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 08:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Methods removed from article. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 08:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Starting with your initial objections Minus 1 / Make10: <br />
::“''not an improvement''”<br />
::“''You also deleted the very simple and straightforward "Method two''"<br />
::This is a straight forward issue - Method 2 has easily twice as many steps as Minus1/Make10….''and'' they are more complex. Please count them. Better yet, try your method on someone learning their 9s. I have worked one-on-one with hundreds of elementary school students. This method is kid tested. It takes seconds to learn for a student that knows Make10...and <u>all</u> K and 1st graders should be experts at Make10 as it is the start of mental math. <br />
::The Make10-based method is the ''only one'' simple enough to replace memorization - so it will save ''millions of hours per year'' otherwise wasted memorizing the 9s. The cherry on top is that it uses Make10 as its basis - something we WANT students to practice.<br />
::Noticed that you subsequently deleted ‘Method2’ as well, so perhaps we will carry on this discussion on the Wiki 9s page. I will be posting an edit there soon with much of the same info that you erased on the Order of Operations page, so please comment here rather erase my edits based on erroneous information.<br />
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::Which leads to the second issue you brought up: '''''where is the best place to discuss the individual single-digit multiples'''''? <br />
::After all, the main use of the multiplication tables is to look up multiples. I agree with you that the section was messy, however having a short section (1 to 3 lines) on each of the single-digit multiples would help a lot of people. Just a brief explanation with a link to the Wiki page for the number in question. That would provide Wiki users with two ways to access.<br />
::So, for the 9s section, it could be as short as: <br />
::Count the '''multiplier''' back 1 '''''and''''' Make-it-10. Example:<br />
::For 9 x '''4''', the 4 counts back to 3 (for thirty- ); then "Make-a-10" with the '''multiplier''' for the 2nd digit.<br />
::The 4 becomes a 10 by adding 6. Answer: 36<br />
::Then a link to the Wiki 9s page for further discussions on why 9 is unique, diagrams, etc.<br />
::I also have short suggestions for 2,3,5,6,10,11,12 (11s/12s are another use of ‘Make10’). <br />
::The Wiki Multiplication Table page seems like a good place to consolidate these. [[User:GregWelch8|GregWelch8]] ([[User talk:GregWelch8|talk]]) 12:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::As I explained on the article's talk page, none of these methods have anything to do with multiplication tables. They do not belong in the article at all, let alone in a section on patterns in multiplication tables. Please stop posting about this here. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== DB Cooper ==<br />
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Hi Meters: Is anyone monitoring the DB Cooper page? [[User:KatDales|KatDales]] ([[User talk:KatDales|talk]]) 13:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Per https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=D._B._Cooper&action=info there are 786 people with that article on their watchlists, and 86 of them have recently visited it. As for myself, I've pretty much given up on it. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== METERS ==<br />
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I'm Pogi man 122 i was concerned to my edit [[User:POGI MAN122|POGI MAN122]] ([[User talk:POGI MAN122|talk]]) 12:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I think my edit summary (actually, edit summaries) says it all: "Unsourced and not needed". As I said on your talk page: "Your edit is unsourced, and would not be needed even if it were sourced." [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Request for blocking an user. ==<br />
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Hello. I would like you to block the guy [[User:Dismant39]] in order to put a stop all the rubbish he is doing out here in Wikipedia. Please do it as soon as you can. [[User:Sahajitbro|Sahajitbro]] ([[User talk:Sahajitbro|talk]]) 18:05, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I am not an admin. You will have to report the user at [[WP:AIV]] or [[WP:ANI]]. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 20:51, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::CU-blocked [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Epekwitk ==<br />
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Can you help me with that name being put into the article I was editing. A quick google search will give you all the source a good wiki'er like yourself . I am honestly asking for help to reflect the name . Most provinces have more than one ethnic group as its foundation but pei is unique enough that the local native name should be reflected. Again I'm sorry I don't know how to properly do it [[User:Brandon.Lundigan|Brandon.Lundigan]] ([[User talk:Brandon.Lundigan|talk]]) 09:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You added unsourced material, and worse yet, you changed an existing reference to incorrectly claim that it supported your change. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 09:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== COINTELPRO is REAL ==<br />
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[[COINTELPRO]] is real! [[Special:Contributions/2601:642:4C0D:5D88:3034:E83F:29A5:F5B5|2601:642:4C0D:5D88:3034:E83F:29A5:F5B5]] ([[User talk:2601:642:4C0D:5D88:3034:E83F:29A5:F5B5|talk]]) 20:33, 31 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Read the article content. That name is no longer used/ And you are evading a block. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 20:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::And blocked again. The user is currently blocked on at least seven different IPs:<br />
:*{{user6|2601:642:4C0D:5D88:3034:E83F:29A5:F5B5}} now a 6-month range block 2601:642:4c0d::/49<br />
:*{{user6|208.82.97.117}}<br />
:*{{user6|98.207.68.50}}<br />
:*{{user6|130.65.254.11}}<br />
:*{{user6|50.197.170.139}}<br />
:*{{user6|173.228.6.166}}<br />
:*{{user6|156.39.127.23}}<br />
::[[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 00:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::[[user:208.82.97.117]] blocked again on Sept 11. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 20:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Google me ==<br />
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Hi I was born in Taber Alberta in 1988, and I am trained by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe’s Office of Democratic institutions and Human Rights. How about you actually Google me instead of listening to Sandra’s Lies. You will regret this in a week when you have to repost what I said, or face litigation. [[Special:Contributions/70.75.208.40|70.75.208.40]] ([[User talk:70.75.208.40|talk]]) 23:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
#I have no idea who "Sandra" is.<br />
#We don't know who is using that IP. It is not uncommon for users to claim to someone they are not in an attempt to influence article content.<br />
#If you are the person you claim to be then you should not be adding material about yourself. Read [[WP:COI]].<br />
#We generally don't add people to lists of notables unless they have a Wikipedia article demonstrating their notability and a reference showing their connection (in this case to [[Taber, Alberta]]). This person does not have an article and you did not provide a reference.<br />
#Please read [[WP:NLT]] and retract your legal threat. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 23:37, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Jennifer Morisson ==<br />
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Her date of birth can simply be found in IMDb. [[User:Edvanandel|Edvanandel]] ([[User talk:Edvanandel|talk]]) 19:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:So? You didn't add any source to the article when you added that birthdate, and IMDB is a user-generated website and thus is not a reliable source for personal information. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:53, 29 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I see that several other persons tried to add Jennifer Morrisons’ birthday and you rejected them all. Makes me think about your authority… [[User:Edvanandel|Edvanandel]] ([[User talk:Edvanandel|talk]]) 07:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::And not one of them provided a reliable source, as I asked on the talk page '''seven months ago'''. If personal information cannot be reliably sourced it should not be in the article. If you have a reliable source then feel free to add her birth date '''with''' the source. Either way, please drop this. I'm not interested in continuing this here. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 08:18, 30 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== October 2022 ==<br />
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Evercool1|Evercool1]]. I wanted to let you know that one or more of [[Special:Contributions/Meters|your recent contributions]]&#32;to [[:Alexandru Rafila]] have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your [[User:Meters/sandbox|sandbox]]. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]] or the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|Help desk]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 --> [[User:Evercool1|Evercool1]] ([[User talk:Evercool1|talk]]) 20:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{replyto|Evercool1}} Yeah, I misclicked and you beat me to the undo. Maybe try not templating obvious errors by experienced editors? [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 20:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Bastrop ==<br />
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Hello. I saw that you reverted an IP update at [[Bastrop, Texas]]. I've found a lot of sources that call Bastrop a "suburb" and place it in the Greater Austin area. But I also found a few that call it an "exurb" where people commute to Austin, etc. How would you advise we recognize the two? I was thinking of just keeping it as is in the lead (no mention of "suburb" or "exurb" and maybe just expanding on this in the sections? Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:MX|MX]]<small> (</small><big>[[User talk:MX|<span style="color:darkred">'''✉'''</span>]]</big> • [[Special:Contributions/MX|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''✎'''</span>]]<small>)</small> 15:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Talk:St Mungo's High School#Removals]] ==<br />
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Many thanks for participating there and for taking the time to give your opinion about the suitability of this material, which I sourced and added, and which you want to keep out of the article. I don't think we are going to agree, and I think your mention of [[WP:EW]], when you have made three reverts and I have made zero, makes it less and not more likely that we could do so. Never mind. I've raised it at [[WP:3O]] so we can get some fresh eyes on the situation. Have a lovely evening, and thanks for caring about stuff like this. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You have added the material three times, twice after it was contested. If you add it again without consensus I will raise this at the edit warring board. And why was this raised at 3) less than 24 hours after it was raised on the article's talk page? That's hardly "thoroughly discussed on the article talk page". How about leaving it long enough for other editors to actual see and respond? [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 00:20, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::I have added different but related material each time, adding more and better sourcing each time. That isn't a full revert. You have made three full reverts to remove it. You belatedly joined the discussion after I started it. I think we both know what's happening here; there are people who find sources and write articles, and there are bean counters and policy wonks more concerned with playing games with WP:ALPHABET SOUP. I think you're declaring a side by (repeatedly) threatening me (bluffing me) with the dreadful prospect of a centralised discussion, when we both know neither of us have broken 3RR, and both of us have made reversions; improvements in my case, and repeated removals in yours. Surprise me; do something to actually improve the article. Find some sources; they seem to be thin on the ground for this article. Can you? [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 16:01, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think the material should be in the article, regardless of the sourcing. Why would I waste my time looking for sources.<br />
:::And yes, I think we do both know what is going on. You added material. I contested it and removed it. A sock restored it and an admin removed it. You restored it, taking responsibility for a sock's material that had been removed. I removed it. You started a thread on the talk page, looking for comments, without pinging me. I responded. You restored a version of the material before anyone else had a chance to respond. I restored the status quo. You took it to a premature 3O (14 hours after the initial talk page post). A 3O responded and agreed with me that the material should not be included.<br />
:::You have attempted to put words in my mouth or misinterpreted what I've said multiple times, and now yuou are verging on personal attacks. Stay off my talk page. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[R. A. Salvatore ]] ==<br />
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I apologize for deleting things on the R.A. Salvator page, I tried to undo, but I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for fixing it. [[Special:Contributions/68.170.250.160|68.170.250.160]] ([[User talk:68.170.250.160|talk]]) 21:06, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:No problem. Next time just call up the page history and hit "undo". [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 22:08, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I left a comment on your talk page, but you are free to just remove whole thread. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 22:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Mayor ==<br />
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Heyya Meters. I am not being disruptive or adding incorrect information. I am still learning. The new Mayor IS Stephen McLean. A municipal vote was held Oct 24. The town website is wrong, as usual. [[Special:Contributions/2605:B100:D26:7F7C:1970:F0CC:A52A:7850|2605:B100:D26:7F7C:1970:F0CC:A52A:7850]] ([[User talk:2605:B100:D26:7F7C:1970:F0CC:A52A:7850|talk]]) 21:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Why are you posting this here? This issue has already been discussed and settled on the talk page, and another editor has already added the new source which you failed to add As you know, since you have posted to the talk page since hte discussion finished). And yes, some of your edits were definitely disruptive. Don't copy other editors' posts. Don't copy other editors' signatures. Don't post unrelated material on the talk page. And if you are the same user who has previously been blocked on more than one account you are socking again. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 23:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor edits ==<br />
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Please stop saying “Your edits aren’t minor stop marking them as minor”. I don’t change that much, so they are indeed minor edits. What you consider a minor edit is different from what I consider to be a minor edit. [[User:GenZenny|GenZenny💖]] ([[User talk:GenZenny|talk]]) 21:56, 21 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Read [[WP:MINOR]]. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:57, 21 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
::It does not matter what '''you''' think is a minor edit. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 21:58, 21 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Blocked for one year. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 00:30, 22 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::And now indef'ed, along with several CU socks. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 22:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, And to you too. It's been a while since we've run into each other. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 04:44, 24 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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You too. Thanks. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 23:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Flags in infoboxes ==<br />
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can you revert Shellcom Sendai ,The Japan Times and Japan Today [[Special:Contributions/2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1|2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1]] ([[User talk:2803:2D60:110C:E2D:0:0:0:1|talk]]) 19:39, 19 January 2023 (UTC) i am fed up<br />
:I'm assuming you meant your recent edits to [[Shellcom Sendai]], [[The Japan Times]], and [[Japan Today]]. Done (one by [[user:Prolog]]) but next time please just do it yourself. At least link the articles, or better yet, provide diffs to the edits in question. See [[WP:SDG]]. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:48, 19 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Why'd u erase everything I added to the [[Cartesian coordinate system|Cartesian coordinate]] system Wiki page? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.66.93.145|70.66.93.145]] ([[User talk:70.66.93.145#top|talk]]) 09:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I didn't think it was an improvement. Please stop restoring it. Take it to talk and try to get consensus for your change or leave it alone. And don't blank my talk page again. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 10:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== Toopy and Binoo ==<br />
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I would like to start by saying that I am not the kid making unsourced edits. I am just here to say that you shouldn't edit the paragraph on the movie unless the kid changes it. In that case, though, please revert his changes. Regards, MightyWinz [[User:MightyWinz|MightyWinz]] ([[User talk:MightyWinz|talk]]) 02:26, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't say or imply that you were also the the IP. And please leave my change alone. There is nothing at all "official" about it. '''When and if''' they actually announce a release date then we can report that. A <s>drawing</s> <u>poster</u> of two cartoon characters<s> looking a at screen</s> is not an official announcement of anything. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 10:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::I know you didn’t say that in any way, just wanted to make sure you knew. And since it’s on the website, that does completely make it official. [[User:MightyWinz|MightyWinz]] ([[User talk:MightyWinz|talk]]) 14:57, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Hey, not sure why, but I can’t edit the Toopy and Binoo article as I’m a new account and haven’t made enough edits, and someone set the article to “protected”. Anyways, “As of February 2023 the official Toopy and Binoo website incuded a poster for the Toopy and Binoo movie. This poster includes French text reading "Summer 2023" as the release date of the movie”, which is the paragraph you wrote has some spelling and grammar errors that you should fix. Please do so as soon as possible. <br />
::These include:<br />
::“Incuded” <br />
::There should be a comma at “As of February 2023,”<br />
::Included shouldn’t even be in past tense as the rest of the article is in present.<br />
::And then it just abruptly ends….?<br />
::Here is a rewritten version. This follows your demands of not having the “official” part of it. Please replace your old one with this as soon as possible.<br />
::During February 2023, a poster for the Toopy and Binoo movie was added to the Toopy and Binoo website. This poster has French text reading “Summer 2023” indicating the release date. This confirms the existence of the Toopy and Binoo movie.<br />
::You can remove the last sentence if you don’t like it. Please make these changes.<br />
::Regards, MightyWinz [[User:MightyWinz|MightyWinz]] ([[User talk:MightyWinz|talk]]) 15:08, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::No, I'm not making these changes. Your supposed grammar error is just your particular style. It's fine either way. I wrote the sentence in the past tense because otherwise it will need to be rewritten at the end of the month. The sentence ends where it does because that's the main point of that sentence. It's just a poster of two characters. It's not anything official, and it does not confirm anything. If you have a proper reliable source then we can say more. Otherwise please drop this. I don't want to waste any more time in this, [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 19:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::::God, what do you not understand? I literally removed the official part because of your demands. And there SHOULD be a comma after February, and that is NOT how to spell included. And "As of", and "included" do not go together. They are in different tenses. What do you not understand? I would seriously like to know. [[User:MightyWinz|MightyWinz]] ([[User talk:MightyWinz|talk]]) 23:10, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
:::::I already asked you to drop this. If you want to argue about the edit then discuss it on the article's talk page. I've fixed the typo. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters#top|talk]]) 23:38, 6 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== OEG, Inc. Retail Cannabis ==<br />
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Hi {{u|Meters}}, I'm reaching out as the COI editor for [[Daryl Katz]], and his Canadian company, [[Oilers Entertainment Group|OEG Inc.]]. As you seem to be interested in [[WP: Canada|Canada-related content]], I am hoping that you will review and implement the [[Talk:Oilers Entertainment Group|edit request]] that I posted, which includes OEG Inc.'s entering the retail cannabis market. Thank you very much! [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 18:31, 9 February 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moxy&diff=1137820827User talk:Moxy2023-02-06T16:55:10Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* OEG Inc Retail Cannabis */ new section</p>
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== Hi Moxy ==<br />
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I saw the discussion with Bish on your talk page. I'm afraid she was right, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1066033846]. I think I see what happened, you copied from this version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia&oldid=1066009934] of [[Human rights in Saudi Arabia]]. That was added by an IP vandal Oct 28 2021[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia&diff=prev&oldid=1052264184] [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 12:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:yup cleanup after [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ajwadsabano&action=edit&redlink=1 User:Ajwadsabano]...that they blocked. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 12:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Template notices at "Template:For timeline" and "Template:For outline" ==<br />
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Both notices at the top of {{tl|For timeline}} and {{tl|For outline}} appear to suggest a proposal to merge ''with each other'' which matches the edit summaries as well. The [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_June_28#Template%3AFor_timeline|TfD discussion]] comments however indicate a merge with {{tl|See also}} and/or {{tl|Further}}. I assumed you meant the latter; is that right? --[[User talk:N8wilson|N8<sub>wilson</sub>]] <span title="Please ping me for reply" style="cursor:help">🔔</span> 19:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== What's going on? ==<br />
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You probably know what this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Meters&diff=1095580386&oldid=1095365794] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Meters&diff=1095584529&oldid=1095581002] is about. It does not look familiar to me and I have no idea why it is on my talk page. Anyways, if there is an SPI or a harassment report somewhere there are two more IPs for you to add. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 06:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Thisappears to be [[user:Mrbeastmodeallday]]. We both commented in a May 24 ANI thread that resulted in his bock. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 06:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Not to alarm you but there was a rather unhinged, conspiracy theory rant that mentioned several editors, including you, that has been revision deleted from every place that it has been posted. It had delusions of grandeur. But if you ever want semi-protection for your User or User talk page, just let an admin know. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 06:27, 30 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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[[WP:DENY|Ignore]] the IP. His vandalism was reverted at WP:ANI. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 02:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== ANI ==<br />
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== Desktop-wielding editors taking pity on mobile readers ==<br />
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Hi Moxy, elsewhere I saw some of your insightful comments about crafting the lead to help retain mobile users. I'm curious, are there any gadgets that desktop users can toggle, so desktop editors can see what mobile users see? Thanks [[User:NewsAndEventsGuy|NewsAndEventsGuy]] ([[User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy|talk]]) 10:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Neplota]] ==<br />
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[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Neplota]] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 17:03, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Stinky sock? ==<br />
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Me thinks, Neplota just might be a sock of a ban [[WP:EVADE|evading]] editor, looking to stir up drama. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 17:23, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Somthing is wrong here I agree <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 17:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== United States ==<br />
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You've been away awhile? Please don't go on vacation to [[Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon]] again without me. Recently arrived editors (consensus is they're not sockpuppets) are stirring it up with deletions and—you are right—some odd new images. To me, these seem like a personal obsession with New York City and NASA. I'll let you be the judge. [[User:Mason.Jones|Mason.Jones]] ([[User talk:Mason.Jones|talk]]) 15:11, 18 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Yup "obsession with New York City and NASA" will leave for now..if ever a GA review we can add back the featured pictures....just got to keep an eye out as this editor is famous for missleading edit summaries, edit wars and jamming pages full of images like [[New York City]] causing mass accessibility problems...or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_LGBT_people_from_New_York_City&oldid=1094976668 this that wont even load for me until fixed] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 19:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about a copyvio ==<br />
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Hello, I saw you made an edit ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ethnic_cleansing_campaigns&diff=1101666326&oldid=1101590843&diffmode=source this one]) where you removed a copyright violation. Can you possibly clarify where that came from, so a copyvio revdel can be done? (Please ping me on reply). [[User:Mako001|Mako001]][[Special:Contributions/Mako001|&nbsp;(C)&nbsp;]][[User talk:Mako001|&nbsp;(T)&nbsp;]] 🇺🇦 08:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:https://uofrpress.ca/Books/C/Clearing-the-Plains <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 13:11, 1 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Modern Taino Identity ==<br />
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I'd appreciate your input on this topic to resolve some long disputed issues about modern Taino movements. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Taíno#Request_for_Comment_on_Modern_Taino_Identity [[User:Poketama|Poketama]] ([[User talk:Poketama|talk]]) 23:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Are you stalking me? ==<br />
* I respectfully ask you to stop following me on articles that you would never otherwise edit. Please find something else to do. Thank you. [[User:Castncoot|Castncoot]] ([[User talk:Castncoot|talk]]) 04:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
*:??? wromg person <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 10:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
*::Oh good, glad to hear that you aren’t. A good idea might be not to search my Contributions page on a routine basis. Best, [[User:Castncoot|Castncoot]] ([[User talk:Castncoot|talk]]) 23:29, 4 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just realizes you're the picture guy...any way you could read over [[MOS:ACCIM]] ...I understand you dont care about thoses with disabilities ...but basics would help.<br />
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It's not an ad. You could reverse your edit. Books and movies about topics, especially documentaries are not advertisements. You mispelled advertisement. I guess putting this on the talk page for Zimbabwe now.[[User:Extraordinary2|Extraordinary2]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary2|talk]]) 23:53, 9 August 2022 (UTC)o<br />
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:We can find a better source for the info over a small advertisement for a doc movie. Pls review [[WP:PROMOTION]]. Stating that a documentary won an award on a country overview article is over the top. So no will not revert. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 00:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::THR is The Hollywood Reporter. Finding a better source is kind of silly. Movies and books win awards. You're missing all of the trees in the woods (the forest for the trees). Let us review. The current president is the subject of a film. It wouldn't matter if we were discussing 20 books about him, the election, or movies. Do you see your error?[[User:Extraordinary2|Extraordinary2]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary2|talk]]) 00:47, 10 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::::ec....reply below to ''::You don't have the right page. Obv. you are not right on any of this.[[User:Extraordinary2|Extraordinary2]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary2|talk]]) 00:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)''<br />
:::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zimbabwe&diff=prev&oldid=1103510763 come to talk about this edit].... if multiple people are reverting you on multiple pages best slow things down so you can keep track.<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 00:50, 10 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Hi Moxy! Need your short explanations! ==<br />
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About that in the Philippines, I ask you an apology but why did you deleted my edit? Visayans/Bisayans are not extinct, I just expanded the ethnic groups inside the Visayans like Waray, Cebuano, and etc because obviously, Visayans live in Visayas and I thought that expanding it would be more preferable. I want a small explanation from u. Thank u!! xx [[User:Zakh Patterson|Zakh Patterson]] ([[User talk:Zakh Patterson|talk]]) 05:01, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:You removed the Visayans from the list.<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 11:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Lol, I told you that Visayans are basically, a group/family of ethnic groups like the Cebuanos, Waray and etc. I don't know y'all what happened. [[User:Zakh Patterson|Zakh Patterson]] ([[User talk:Zakh Patterson|talk]]) 00:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Explanation of UNDO on my edits ==<br />
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Can you explain why do you undo the entire edits on the "flag of canada" page made the August 20th ? [[User:ChaseYUL99|ChaseYUL99]] ([[User talk:ChaseYUL99|talk]]) 09:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:naval ensign? <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 12:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::https://www.canada.ca/en/navy/services/history/naval-flags-uniforms/diplay-naval-flags.html [[User:ChaseYUL99|ChaseYUL99]] ([[User talk:ChaseYUL99|talk]]) 13:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Most of the flag pages show the flags that complete the six usual flag use.<br />
::Example : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Belgium, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Bahamas, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Bangladesh, etc. [[User:ChaseYUL99|ChaseYUL99]] ([[User talk:ChaseYUL99|talk]]) 13:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:We have [[List of Canadian flags]] for that stuff.<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 13:36, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::And for the civil and state ensign (national flag use), was that an ok edit ? [[User:ChaseYUL99|ChaseYUL99]] ([[User talk:ChaseYUL99|talk]]) 14:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Your tagging of [[Template:Administration in the Palestine region]] shows up oddly in [[Israel#Israeli-occupied territories]]. It looks as though someone mis-tagged that section. Is there a way to tag so it doesn't show up in articles that way? Cheers 09:35, 25 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Suspected sockpuppet account ==<br />
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{{no ping|AwoIf58}} would appear to be another sockpuppet of an account you have dealt with repeatedly. Just FYI. [[User:Bgsu98|Bgsu98]] ([[User talk:Bgsu98|talk]]) 03:03, 2 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== See [[WP:ANI#Is this a legal threat?]] ==<br />
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Sadly this guy is making a mess of a number of articles, changing sourced text, etc. I'm not saying every edit is wrong, but most seem to be. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 10:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Expanding the lead ==<br />
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Hello Moxy, any chance we might be able to collaborate on expanding the lead section at [[Agriculture in Canada]]? Regards, [[User:NeutraI|NeutraI]] ([[User talk:NeutraI|talk]]) 15:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Copyright violation? ==<br />
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Hi, I was wondering where the recent concern about a copyright violation occurred? I've been editing a number of articles and am having trouble locating where the problem originated. [[User:CheckersBoard|CheckersBoard]] ([[User talk:CheckersBoard|talk]]) 11:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:stop copy pasting and you wont have that problem. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 11:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::I didn't. And I didn't write the article, I only wrote about one sport. Content I added does not read the same as other articles, plus the article includes sections on other sports so it follows that form. But the entire article is poorly sourced now that I look at it, so having it considered for deletion actually makes sense. It doesn't appear to have been properly developed anyways. [[User:CheckersBoard|CheckersBoard]] ([[User talk:CheckersBoard|talk]]) 11:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== East Timor ==<br />
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Hi Moxy, I think I've managed to get [[East Timor]] into a reasonable state and have put it up for GAN. If you have time I would appreciate any thoughts! [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 15:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:will be there shortly.......but fast review looks great!!!! <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 15:57, 24 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Indigenous population history in Canada ==<br />
Hello, just wondering when you are planning to publish this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Population_history_of_Indigenous_peoples_of_Canada [[User:Van00220|Van00220]] ([[User talk:Van00220|talk]]) 02:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Soon as I can.....doing cleanup of a few other articles first. On a side not have you ever seen [[WP:PROSE]] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 03:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)<br />
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For dealing with pesty persons. Have a goat.<br />
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== [[Romanian Canadians]] ==<br />
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Hi, Moxy! Can I please revert the list? I personally worked on it and all the figures are Romanian Canadians. Thanks! [[User:.karellian-24|.karellian-24]] ([[User talk:.karellian-24|talk]]) 14:02, 2 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:All you need to do is add sources [[WP:BURDEN]] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 17:13, 25 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Help in Turkish page ==<br />
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Hi Moxy! I would like to use your expertise. One user is constantly touching images for the Turkey articles. Simply adding a filter and increasing the contrast. But this lowers the image quality and I think it is totally unnecessary. I wonder if you could help me how to stop it. Most of the images in İstanbul page already had this issue.<br />
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Since the changes are not in the main article but in image files. I dunno what to do. Thank you for your help! [[User:Metuboy|Metuboy]] ([[User talk:Metuboy|talk]]) 10:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:you should be able to revert the changes to the files....I will look later today <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 17:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I already did it but the user just upload the previous version again. It really destroys the image quality. If not I wouldnt care. [[User:Metuboy|Metuboy]] ([[User talk:Metuboy|talk]]) 13:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Mosul: undue weight? ==<br />
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Hi Moxy, I noticed that you flagged my recent to [[Mosul]] about its medieval metalworking industry with [[template:undue weight]]. Which perspective did I unduly emphasize? Or did you mean that the section is disproportionately large? If that's the case then I can switch the template to [[template:overly detailed]] or maybe something similar because I'm confused to what you mean. <br />
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[[User:3 kids in a trenchcoat|3 kids in a trenchcoat]] ([[User talk:3 kids in a trenchcoat|talk]]) 01:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Thinking this might be better on its own article <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 12:30, 25 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I agree, at least some of this content probably ought to be in a separate article. I'm not sure which parts should get split off, though. I think the first six paragraphs can probably stay. The two paragraphs beginning "Only two items..." and "Modern western scholarship..." I'm less sure of. Some of the ideas near the end of that second paragraph I think should probably stay. A mention of Mosul's influence in Egypt, Syria, and Iran might also be worth having. The rest can probably go. What do you think?<br />
::[[User:3 kids in a trenchcoat|3 kids in a trenchcoat]] ([[User talk:3 kids in a trenchcoat|talk]]) 08:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Hello pal, sorry for changing the link, I didn't realize that my edit was odd, I will do my best in not doing that. [[User:Pablo the Helper|Pablo the Helper]] - [[User talk:Pablo the Helper|To your service!]] 16:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:All good <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 16:53, 30 November 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Conflict of Interest question and casting aspersions on other editors ==<br />
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You have recently made a series of edits advancing a particular POV in regards to the [[Métis Nation of Ontario]]. For instance:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ACanadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&type=revision&diff=1124900674&oldid=1124079537 this edit], where you seem to want to promote the group's website and a non-Native <s>encyclopedia</s> ''[https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/the-other-metis opinion piece] on a site that just happens to have "encyclopedia" in their site name'' over reliable, third-party Métis and First Nations sources. What is your connection to this group? Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AM%C3%A9tis&type=revision&diff=1124901847&oldid=1124877340 these comments you made], I'm going to repeat what I said at [[Talk:Métis]]: <br />
:Implying that cited sources and editors are "racist", or committing "race murder", for discussing the many issues with that group, such as being called out by the National Council for being "90% non-Métis", among other things, is [[WP:ASPERSIONS|highly inappropriate]]. Indigenous identity is based in citizenship, not race. <br />
:I strongly suggest you do not [[WP:NPA|imply that other editors are "racist" or committing "race murder"]] for citing reliable sources, especially when they are members in good standing of the Indigenous editing pool here on the 'pedia. <br />
- [[User:CorbieVreccan|<span style="color: #660099;"><strong>CorbieVreccan</strong></span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:CorbieVreccan|☊]]</sup> [[WP:SPIDER|☼]] 18:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:{{ping|CorbieVreccan}}This is very disappointing to say the lest. Not sure how to move foreward when there is clearly an agenda to omit recognition of specific groups that have legal status. Thinking best to ask others about this as its clear that there is a problem when sources are removed or misrepresented by omitting . The comments are not from me they're from the sources that were provided... one of the sources used literary genocide..... not sure journalism is the best way to go here.....Thus far the lead has a dead source and 2 that cover Ontario ..So why the censorship ?.<small>. The '''Métis''' ({{IPAc-en|m|eɪ|ˈ|t|iː|(|s|)}} {{respell|may|TEE(S)}}; Canadian {{IPA-fr|metis|lang}}) are [[Indigenous peoples of the Americas|Indigenous peoples]] who inhabit Canada's three [[Canadian Prairies|Prairie Provinces]], as well as parts of [[British Columbia]], the [[Northwest Territories]], and the [[Northern United States]].<ref>{{cite web |title=Métis Nation |url=https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/aboriginal-heritage/metis/Pages/introduction.aspx |publisher=Library Archives Canada |date=15 October 2013}}</ref>{{deadlink}}<ref>{{cite web |title=Métis Homeland |publisher=Rupertsland Institute |url=https://www.rupertsland.org/metis-homeland/ |access-date=2021-07-24}}</ref>{{Failed verification|reason=Métis villages sprang up along the riverways from the Great Lakes to the Mackenzie Delta. The Rupert’s Land territory included all or parts of present-day Northwest-Nunavut Territory, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia, and became known to the Métis as the “Métis Homeland.”}}<ref name=CGMetisAtlas>{{Cite encyclopedia|url=https://indigenouspeoplesatlasofcanada.ca/article/identity/ |title=Métis > Identity|encyclopedia=Indigenous Peoples Atlas of Canada|publisher=Canadian Geographic|access-date=March 13, 2022}}</ref> {{Failed verification|reason=Métis Nation, relates to a self-defining people with a distinct history in a specific region (Western Canada’s prairies) with some spillover into British Columbia, Ontario, North Dakota, Montana and Northwest Territories}}</small> . Has anyone here looked at [https://www.google.com/search?q=Upper+Great+Lakes++M%C3%A9tis&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA876CA876&sxsrf=ALiCzsaDgPLnDTkYxXST7I3WH27swPIhjQ%3A1669940206842&ei=7kOJY-32MvSw5NoPtLWT-Ao&ved=0ahUKEwjtpcyG1Nn7AhV0GFkFHbTaBK8Q4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=Upper+Great+Lakes++M%C3%A9tis&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCAAQogQyBQgAEKIEMgUIABCiBDIHCAAQHhCiBDIFCAAQogQ6CggAEEcQ1gQQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQriZYriZg4CloBHABeACAAZMBiAGTAZIBAzAuMZgBAKABAcgBA8ABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp Upper Great Lakes Métis?]. Don't you find it odd the same edit has been trying to been inserted over and over..... calling in vandalism is clearly wrong when there's a multitude of sources in the article and even the statement ....[https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/rivers-of-resistance-a-history-of-the-metis-nation-of-ontario/ the historical evidence in the Powley case was undeniable: Métis in Ontario have been standing up for their rights as a distinct group since the very beginning]<br />
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::O well not sure we have any way forward. At least the sources are there for people to see for themselves. Cindy was absolutely right about the meger years ago. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>-[[File:Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg|15px|link=User talk:Moxy]] 01:46, 3 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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The page now has two, slightly dissimilar, "Etymology" sections. You might want to fix that :-) [[User:Udittmer|Udittmer]] ([[User talk:Udittmer|talk]]) 09:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Did you know that [[Josephine Butler]] is on the Main page? Thank you for what you said in the discussion there, still true six years later. Christmas brought good singing (pictured when you click on songs), and keep watching [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023|for 2023]], with best wishes! -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:20, 30 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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... and also from me! Today's featured article is [[Osbert Parsley]], not by me but Amitchell125 where {{diff|User talk:Amitchell125|1132741317|1132736322|I commented}}, including the beginning of [[User:Gerda Arendt/Songs|my songs]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)<br />
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Why did you delete this useful current information from a very good reliable source ? I think it should be restored. [[User:Rjensen|Rjensen]] ([[User talk:Rjensen|talk]]) 07:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
::Ok--thanks for putting it back. [[User:Rjensen|Rjensen]] ([[User talk:Rjensen|talk]]) 06:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)<br />
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== OEG Inc Retail Cannabis ==<br />
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Hi {{u|Moxy}}, I'm the COI editor for [[Daryl Katz]], and his company, [[Oilers Entertainment Group|OEG Inc.]]. I noticed your interest in all things [[WP: Canada|Canada]], including [[Cannabis in Canada]]. Might you be willing to review my pending [[Talk:Oilers Entertainment Group|edit request]] to include OEG Inc.'s recent entrance to retail cannabis in their article? Thank you very much. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:55, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:OEG_Inc.&diff=1136505390Talk:OEG Inc.2023-01-30T17:28:06Z<p>DJ for Katz: </p>
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== Retail Cannabis content addition ==<br />
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I am looking to add some content about OEG's recent work to this article, specifically about the Group's 2019 entry into retail cannabis, as supported by these sources:<br />
*https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/<br />
*https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/<br />
*https://www.oeg.ca/our-businesses/retail-cannabis (a primary source, only for reference)<br />
Similarly, the abovementioned sources reflect the rebranding of Oilers Entertainment Group as OEG Inc. Can the article be renamed accordingly? [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DJ_for_Katz&diff=1136505063User:DJ for Katz2023-01-30T17:25:39Z<p>DJ for Katz: Expanded COI declaration</p>
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I am looking to add some content about OEG's recent work to this article, specifically about the Group's 2019 entry into retail cannabis, as supported by these sources:<br />
*https://canadatoday.news/sk/oeg-retail-cannabis-completes-acquisition-of-canopy-growths-tokyo-smoke-branded-retail-stores-in-multi-country-expansion-92753/<br />
*https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/news/oeg-retail-cannabis-to-acquire-dispensaries-tokyo-smoke-brand-from-canopy-growth/<br />
*https://www.oeg.ca/our-businesses/retail-cannabis (a primary source, only for reference)<br />
Similarly, the abovementioned sources reflect the rebranding of Oilers Entertainment Group as OEG Inc. Can the article be renamed accordingly? [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daryl_Katz&diff=1132591685Daryl Katz2023-01-09T16:32:35Z<p>DJ for Katz: COI direct edit to include official website</p>
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| birth_name = Daryl Allan Katz<br />
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| birth_place = [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]], Canada<br />
| education = [[University of Alberta]]<br />
| occupation = Chairman and CEO, [[Katz Group]]<br />
| known_for = Owner, [[Edmonton Oilers]]<br />
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'''Daryl Allan Katz''' (born May 31, 1961) is a Canadian [[billionaire]] businessman and philanthropist. Katz is founder and chairman of the [[Katz Group of Companies]], one of Canada's largest privately-owned enterprises, with pharmacy, sports & entertainment, and real estate development businesses. Katz Group owns the [[Edmonton Oilers]], and led the development of [[Rogers Place]] and the Ice District. Katz is a former lawyer, and resides in Edmonton.<br />
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==Early life==<br />
Daryl Katz was born in 1961 in Edmonton, Alberta.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www.edmontonjournal.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121216090649/http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |archive-date=16 December 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref> His father was a pharmacist who founded [[Value Drug Mart]] in Edmonton in the 1970s.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> Katz attended the Jewish day school, the [[Edmonton Talmud Torah]] during his elementary years and then graduated from [[Jasper Place High School]].<ref name=ArchivesCanada>{{cite web |url=http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |title=Archived copy |website=www.archivescanada.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131111055102/http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |archive-date=11 November 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive>{{cite web |url=http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www2.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131005111141/http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |archive-date=5 October 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref> He then attended the [[University of Alberta]], graduating with an arts degree in 1982 and with a law degree in 1985.<ref name=ArchivesCanada/><br />
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After school, he worked for a time at the law firm, Shoctor, Mousseau and Starkman,<ref name=ArchivesCanada/> and then started his own practice focusing on corporate and franchise law. In 1991, in a partnership with his father, Katz paid $300,000 for the Canadian rights to the U.S.-based Medicine Shoppe drugstore franchise which had over 1,000 stores in the USA. In 1992, they opened the first Medicine Shoppe store and Katz founded the Katz Group of Companies which was to become the holding company for the group. In 1996, Katz purchased the storied but fading [[Rexall (Canada)|Rexall]] drugstore chain in Canada which at the time, only consisted of several dozen stores. The business grew and by 1998, the Katz Group consisted of 80 Rexall stores, 30 Medicine Shoppe outlets, and a few smaller independent retailers. In 1997, he purchased the Ontario-based, 143-store Pharma Plus drug store chain from the supermarket operator [[Oshawa Group]] for $100 million.<ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive/> Katz reportedly retains a small circle of highly paid executives who run Katz Group. Rexall Pharmacy is run from Ontario, while other subsidiaries of Katz Group maintain private headquarters separate from Katz Group itself.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |title=The Katz Group of Companies |website=64.141.115.51 |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100418223259/http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |archive-date=18 April 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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In 1999 he ventured into the U.S. with the purchase of the money-losing, $300 million in sales, Minnesota-based Snyders Drug Store chain; in 2001, he purchased the U.S.-based [[Drug Emporium]] big-box discount chain. His foray into the U.S. was not without failure: the Snyder's chain filed for bankruptcy in 2003 and its 25 stores were sold to Walgreens. In 2004, Katz purchased the naming rights for ten years to the new $45-million [[Rexall Centre]], a 12,500-seat tennis and entertainment complex on the campus of York University. In January 2012, he sold Drug Trading Co. and Medicine Shoppe Canada to the U.S.-based drug distributor [[McKesson Corporation]] for $1.2 billion. Katz Group sold its network of approximately 460 outlets to McKesson Corporation in 2016 for C$3 billion.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Tracer|first=Zachary|title=McKesson Buys Canada's Rexall Drugstores for $2.23 Billion|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-02/mckesson-to-buy-pharmacy-chain-rexall-health-for-2-2-billion|date=2 March 2016|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Purchase of Edmonton Oilers and Creation of Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG)==<br />
In May 2007, Katz made a $145-million bid to buy the [[Edmonton Oilers]] franchise, which the owners of the team, the [[Edmonton Investors Group]] (EIG), quickly rejected, stating the team was not for sale.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/daryl-katz-remembers-buying-an-oilers-team-at-risk-of-leaving-edmonton-but-is-that-how-it-actually-happened |title=Daryl Katz remembers buying an Oilers team "at risk" of leaving Edmonton - but is that how it actually happened? |website=edmontonjournal.com |date=2012-09-19 |access-date=2020-08-10}}</ref><br />
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In July 2007, he made another bid for the Oilers of $185-million, which EIG turned down on August 7, 2007.<ref name="Buying Oilers">{{cite news|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/oilers-not-for-sale-owners-tell-billionaire-suitor-1.638074|title=Oilers not for sale, owners tell billionaire suitor|access-date=2007-08-07|publisher=CBC.ca|author=CBC News | date=August 7, 2007}}</ref> On December 12, 2007, Katz made an offer of $188-million to the EIG. The Board of the EIG announced in January 2008 that it would again recommend to its shareholders to reject this latest bid.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2008/01/02/oilers-reject.html |title=Edmonton Oilers' owners to reject tycoon's latest offer - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2008-01-02 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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On January 28, 2008, Katz increased his offer to $200 million and extended the acceptance deadline to February 5, 2008, at which time Katz was notified by the EIG that all its members agreed to sell the Oilers to him, pending league and financial approval.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |title=TSN : NHL - Canada's Sports Leader |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080207054010/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |archive-date=7 February 2008 |url-status=dead}}</ref> On June 18, 2008, Daryl Katz received the final OK from the National Hockey League to purchase the Edmonton Oilers, and then on July 2, 2008, he was officially announced as the owner of the Edmonton Oilers during a Press Conference at Rexall Place, where he was presented with an Edmonton Oilers Jersey with the number "08" and his last name patched onto the back.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In June 2014, Katz Group announced<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722586#&navid=EDM-search |title=Katz Group Names Bob Nicholson Vice-Chairman of New Sports & Entertainment Company &#124; NHL.com |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2014-06-13 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> that [[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] would join the organization as Vice-Chairman of [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] (OEG), a new sports and entertainment company that would manage the Katz Group's growing family of sports and entertainment assets, and operate [[Rogers Place]], the new home of the Edmonton Oilers.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In addition to the Oilers, OEG owns and operates the [[Edmonton Oil Kings]] (WHL), and [[Bakersfield Condors (AHL)|Bakersfield Condors]] (AHL) as well as Aquila Productions (film & production company). Nicholson was named<ref>{{cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers Press Release|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=764212|website=Oilers.nhl.com|publisher=NHL|access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> CEO of OEG in April 2015 and given responsibility for both business and hockey operations.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In April 2015, Katz announced a partnership<ref>{{cite web|last=Hipes |first=Patrick |url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/ |title=Joel Silver Forms Silver Pictures Entertainment & Taps Hal Sadoff As CEO |publisher=Deadline |date=2015-04-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> with [[Joel Silver]] to create Silver Pictures Entertainment – a new company that will develop, produce and provide or arrange financing for feature films, television and digital projects. Katz’ interests in the company fall under the OEG umbrella.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/legendary-hollywood-producer-joel-silver-and-canadian-entrepreneur-daryl-katz-partner-to-create-silver-pictures-entertainment/c-765351|title = Legendary Hollywood Producer Joel Silver and Canadian Entrepreneur Daryl Katz Partner to Create Silver Pictures Entertainment}}</ref> The partnership was dissolved in 2019 and Silver Pictures carried on under Hal Sadoff.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Ewing|first=Jeff|title=Silver Pictures Now Moving Forward without Founder Joel Silver|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2019/06/25/silver-pictures-now-moving-forward-without-founder-joel-silver/?sh=3e89bfcb1b76|date=25 June 2019|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Rogers Place and Edmonton Ice District (former Arena District)==<br />
Katz has said he bought the Oilers because he saw Edmonton's need for a new arena as an opportunity to be the catalyst for the revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core. Following public consultations and negotiations with the [[City of Edmonton]], Katz Group and the city agreed to a public-private partnership to build [[Rogers Place]] arena, which would see the city retain ownership of the new arena, and Katz Group operate it (under OEG). The City's portion of arena funding will be paid through a Community Revitalization Levy and did not result in any new cost to taxpayers.<ref>{{cite web|title=Funding Agreement |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150712155036/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |archive-date=2015-07-12 }}</ref> Construction on the project began March 2014.<ref>{{cite news|title=Rogers Place construction starts Monday|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rogers-place-construction-starts-monday-1.2557811|publisher=CBC News|access-date=April 16, 2016|date=March 3, 2014}}</ref><br />
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Opened in September 2016, Rogers Place was marketed as one of North America's most advanced sports & entertainment venues, active year-round and featuring a 24,000 square foot grand entrance-way called the Ford Hall which can be used as public/private programmable space.<ref>{{cite web|title=Winter Garden |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150507151321/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |archive-date=2015-05-07 }}</ref><br />
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With Rogers Place at its core, Katz Group has begun construction of the Edmonton Arena District (EAD),<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=80301 |title=Edmonton Downtown Arena and Entertainment District - Edmonton Oilers - News |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2012-05-17 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> slated to be Canada's largest mixed-use sports and entertainment development. The EAD will cover 25 contiguous acres of downtown Edmonton, and feature a 50,000 square foot public plaza, two office towers, a JW Marriott Hotel, a Gateway casino, over 1,000 luxury condos and rental apartments, and 270,000 square feet of retail space at a total cost of approximately $2.5 billion. In 2014, it was announced that the City of Edmonton and [[Stantec]] would be the major tenants of the two respective office towers. Stantec's tower will be the tallest in Edmonton at 69 storeys.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/62-storey-tower-to-be-built-in-downtown-edmonton-1.2747702 |title=62-storey tower to be built in downtown Edmonton - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2014-08-26 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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The Edmonton Arena District was formally renamed the [[Ice District]] on July 13, 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/2106848/welcome-to-the-ice-district-edmonton-arena-district-announces-official-name/|title=Welcome to Ice District! Edmonton Arena District announces official name - Edmonton - Global News|website=globalnews.ca|date=2015-07-13|access-date=2020-08-05}}</ref><br />
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==Philanthropy==<br />
In October 2006 Katz announced a $7 million donation to the University of Alberta Faculty of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences and Faculty of Law. Matched by the province, the gift was the largest donation ever to a Canadian pharmacy school. The west wing of the Health Research Innovation Facility at the corner of 87th Avenue and 114th Street in Edmonton has been named The Katz Group Centre for Pharmacy and Health Research. In 2009 Katz donated $20 Million to [[Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto]] and founded The Daryl A Katz Centre For Urgent And Critical Care.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mshfoundation.ca/page.aspx?pid=424 |title=Mount Sinai Hospital Foundation of Toronto |website=Mshfoundation.ca |date=2014-01-20 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> Katz has also given "millions" to the [[Stollery Children's Hospital]] in Edmonton, as well as supporting public events.<ref name="tsn.ca">{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |title=Decision looms on new downtown rink for Oilers |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100524113236/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |archive-date=24 May 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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Between 2005 and 2010, Katz and his wife have donated "over $50 million" to organizations and institutions across Canada.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |title=Katz, wife donate $500,000 to AGA |website=www.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |archive-date=10 November 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/Daryl+Renee+Katz+donate+Gallery+Alberta/2491478/story.html |title=Daryl and Renee Katz donate $500,000 to Art Gallery of Alberta |website=Edmontonjournal.com |date=2010-01-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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==Personal life==<br />
As of November 2022, Katz' [[net worth]] is reported at US$4.2 billion, according to ''[[Forbes]]''.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Daryl Katz|url=https://www.forbes.com/profile/daryl-katz/|access-date=November 1, 2022|website=Forbes|language=en}}</ref><br />
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Katz is married to Renee Gouin.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> She is the daughter of [[Jean Ivan Gouin|Jean Yvon (Ivan) Gouin]]. In 1952, her father founded the North American Construction Group which became one of the largest mining and heavy construction companies in Canada.<ref>[http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 ''Edmonton Journal'': "Daryl Katz: reclusive billionaire" by Rick McConnell, John MacKinnon and Gary Lamphier] December 17, 2012</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/remembering/obituary.aspx?n=jean-yvon-gouin-ivan&pid=98838924#fbLoggedOut |title=Jean Gouin Obituary - Vancouver, BC &#124; Remembering |website=Legacy.com |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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In early 2017, Katz was accused by Brazilian actress and model Greice Santo and her husband R. J. Cipriani of offering money to the former in exchange for sexual favors. Santo also denounced Michael Gelmon, Katz's cousin and associate, for defending him and threatening to end her career in Hollywood if she spoke about the case.<ref name="CBC.ca">{{Cite web |last1=Geddes |first1=Ashley |last2=Huncar |first2=Andrea |date=April 6, 2017 |title=Brazilian model accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of offering money for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170407012003/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |archive-date=April 7, 2017 |access-date=April 18, 2021 |website=[[CBC.ca]]}}</ref><br />
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In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite news |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |newspaper=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> In August 2022, the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz;<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref><br />
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In 2019, the [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] released a statement confirming that Katz has been suffering from a life-threatening, antibiotic-resistant [[Sinusitis|bacterial sinus infection]]. [[Sportsnet]] hockey analyst [[John Shannon (sportscaster)|John Shannon]] tweeted that Katz carried an IV bag around-the-clock during [[Edmonton Oilers]]’ playoff run in 2017. He also underwent 3 surgeries in 10 months to battle the infection that has a 50-50 survival rate and his current prognosis looks positive.<ref>{{Cite web |title=What The Health?! Oilers' owner's life-threatening illness is a scary reminder of antibiotic resistance |url=https://ca.style.yahoo.com/daryl-katz-life-threatening-sinus-infection-145350853.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=ca.style.yahoo.com |language=en-CA}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Edmonton Oilers confirm owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness {{!}} The Star |url=https://www.thestar.com/amp/business/2019/05/07/edmonton-oilers-confirm-owner-daryl-katz-dealing-with-life-threatening-illness.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=www.thestar.com}}</ref><br />
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{{Infobox person<br />
| name = Daryl Katz<br />
| image = 2010 NHL Entry Draft 011-Kat.jpg <br />
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| caption = Daryl Katz at the [[2010 NHL Entry Draft]]<br />
| birth_name = Daryl Allan Katz<br />
| birth_date = {{birth date and age|1961|5|31}}<br />
| birth_place = [[Edmonton]], [[Alberta]], Canada<br />
| education = [[University of Alberta]]<br />
| occupation = Chairman and CEO, [[Katz Group]]<br />
| known_for = Owner, [[Edmonton Oilers]]<br />
| spouse = Renee Gouin<br />
| children = 2<br />
| website =<br />
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'''Daryl Allan Katz''' (born May 31, 1961) is a Canadian [[billionaire]] businessman and philanthropist. Katz is founder and chairman of the [[Katz Group of Companies]], one of Canada's largest privately-owned enterprises, with pharmacy, sports & entertainment, and real estate development businesses. Katz Group owns the [[Edmonton Oilers]], and led the development of [[Rogers Place]] and the Ice District. Katz is a former lawyer, and resides in Edmonton.<br />
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==Early life==<br />
Daryl Katz was born in 1961 in Edmonton, Alberta.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www.edmontonjournal.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121216090649/http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/blogs/Daryl+Katz+reclusive+billionaire/7701358/story.html |archive-date=16 December 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref> His father was a pharmacist who founded [[Value Drug Mart]] in Edmonton in the 1970s.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> Katz attended the Jewish day school, the [[Edmonton Talmud Torah]] during his elementary years and then graduated from [[Jasper Place High School]].<ref name=ArchivesCanada>{{cite web |url=http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |title=Archived copy |website=www.archivescanada.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131111055102/http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=248122&rt=1&bill=1 |archive-date=11 November 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive>{{cite web |url=http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |title=Daryl Katz: Reclusive billionaire |website=www2.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131005111141/http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 |archive-date=5 October 2013 |url-status=dead}}</ref> He then attended the [[University of Alberta]], graduating with an arts degree in 1982 and with a law degree in 1985.<ref name=ArchivesCanada/><br />
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==Pharmacy business==<br />
After school, he worked for a time at the law firm, Shoctor, Mousseau and Starkman,<ref name=ArchivesCanada/> and then started his own practice focusing on corporate and franchise law. In 1991, in a partnership with his father, Katz paid $300,000 for the Canadian rights to the U.S.-based Medicine Shoppe drugstore franchise which had over 1,000 stores in the USA. In 1992, they opened the first Medicine Shoppe store and Katz founded the Katz Group of Companies which was to become the holding company for the group. In 1996, Katz purchased the storied but fading [[Rexall (Canada)|Rexall]] drugstore chain in Canada which at the time, only consisted of several dozen stores. The business grew and by 1998, the Katz Group consisted of 80 Rexall stores, 30 Medicine Shoppe outlets, and a few smaller independent retailers. In 1997, he purchased the Ontario-based, 143-store Pharma Plus drug store chain from the supermarket operator [[Oshawa Group]] for $100 million.<ref name=EdmontonJournalReclusive/> Katz reportedly retains a small circle of highly paid executives who run Katz Group. Rexall Pharmacy is run from Ontario, while other subsidiaries of Katz Group maintain private headquarters separate from Katz Group itself.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |title=The Katz Group of Companies |website=64.141.115.51 |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100418223259/http://64.141.115.51/cgi-bin/press_katz.pl?record=36 |archive-date=18 April 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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In 1999 he ventured into the U.S. with the purchase of the money-losing, $300 million in sales, Minnesota-based Snyders Drug Store chain; in 2001, he purchased the U.S.-based [[Drug Emporium]] big-box discount chain. His foray into the U.S. was not without failure: the Snyder's chain filed for bankruptcy in 2003 and its 25 stores were sold to Walgreens. In 2004, Katz purchased the naming rights for ten years to the new $45-million [[Rexall Centre]], a 12,500-seat tennis and entertainment complex on the campus of York University. In January 2012, he sold Drug Trading Co. and Medicine Shoppe Canada to the U.S.-based drug distributor [[McKesson Corporation]] for $1.2 billion. Katz Group sold its network of approximately 460 outlets to McKesson Corporation in 2016 for C$3 billion.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Tracer|first=Zachary|title=McKesson Buys Canada's Rexall Drugstores for $2.23 Billion|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-02/mckesson-to-buy-pharmacy-chain-rexall-health-for-2-2-billion|date=2 March 2016|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Purchase of Edmonton Oilers and Creation of Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG)==<br />
In May 2007, Katz made a $145-million bid to buy the [[Edmonton Oilers]] franchise, which the owners of the team, the [[Edmonton Investors Group]] (EIG), quickly rejected, stating the team was not for sale.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/daryl-katz-remembers-buying-an-oilers-team-at-risk-of-leaving-edmonton-but-is-that-how-it-actually-happened |title=Daryl Katz remembers buying an Oilers team "at risk" of leaving Edmonton - but is that how it actually happened? |website=edmontonjournal.com |date=2012-09-19 |access-date=2020-08-10}}</ref><br />
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In July 2007, he made another bid for the Oilers of $185-million, which EIG turned down on August 7, 2007.<ref name="Buying Oilers">{{cite news|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/oilers-not-for-sale-owners-tell-billionaire-suitor-1.638074|title=Oilers not for sale, owners tell billionaire suitor|access-date=2007-08-07|publisher=CBC.ca|author=CBC News | date=August 7, 2007}}</ref> On December 12, 2007, Katz made an offer of $188-million to the EIG. The Board of the EIG announced in January 2008 that it would again recommend to its shareholders to reject this latest bid.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2008/01/02/oilers-reject.html |title=Edmonton Oilers' owners to reject tycoon's latest offer - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2008-01-02 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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On January 28, 2008, Katz increased his offer to $200 million and extended the acceptance deadline to February 5, 2008, at which time Katz was notified by the EIG that all its members agreed to sell the Oilers to him, pending league and financial approval.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |title=TSN : NHL - Canada's Sports Leader |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080207054010/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228952&hubname= |archive-date=7 February 2008 |url-status=dead}}</ref> On June 18, 2008, Daryl Katz received the final OK from the National Hockey League to purchase the Edmonton Oilers, and then on July 2, 2008, he was officially announced as the owner of the Edmonton Oilers during a Press Conference at Rexall Place, where he was presented with an Edmonton Oilers Jersey with the number "08" and his last name patched onto the back.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In June 2014, Katz Group announced<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722586#&navid=EDM-search |title=Katz Group Names Bob Nicholson Vice-Chairman of New Sports & Entertainment Company &#124; NHL.com |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2014-06-13 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> that [[Bob Nicholson (ice hockey)|Bob Nicholson]] would join the organization as Vice-Chairman of [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] (OEG), a new sports and entertainment company that would manage the Katz Group's growing family of sports and entertainment assets, and operate [[Rogers Place]], the new home of the Edmonton Oilers.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In addition to the Oilers, OEG owns and operates the [[Edmonton Oil Kings]] (WHL), and [[Bakersfield Condors (AHL)|Bakersfield Condors]] (AHL) as well as Aquila Productions (film & production company). Nicholson was named<ref>{{cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers Press Release|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=764212|website=Oilers.nhl.com|publisher=NHL|access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> CEO of OEG in April 2015 and given responsibility for both business and hockey operations.{{citation needed|date=April 2018}}<br />
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In April 2015, Katz announced a partnership<ref>{{cite web|last=Hipes |first=Patrick |url=https://deadline.com/2015/04/joel-silver-silver-pictures-entertainment-daryl-katz-hal-sadoff-1201416892/ |title=Joel Silver Forms Silver Pictures Entertainment & Taps Hal Sadoff As CEO |publisher=Deadline |date=2015-04-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> with [[Joel Silver]] to create Silver Pictures Entertainment – a new company that will develop, produce and provide or arrange financing for feature films, television and digital projects. Katz’ interests in the company fall under the OEG umbrella.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/legendary-hollywood-producer-joel-silver-and-canadian-entrepreneur-daryl-katz-partner-to-create-silver-pictures-entertainment/c-765351|title = Legendary Hollywood Producer Joel Silver and Canadian Entrepreneur Daryl Katz Partner to Create Silver Pictures Entertainment}}</ref> The partnership was dissolved in 2019 and Silver Pictures carried on under Hal Sadoff.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Ewing|first=Jeff|title=Silver Pictures Now Moving Forward without Founder Joel Silver|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2019/06/25/silver-pictures-now-moving-forward-without-founder-joel-silver/?sh=3e89bfcb1b76|date=25 June 2019|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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==Rogers Place and Edmonton Ice District (former Arena District)==<br />
Katz has said he bought the Oilers because he saw Edmonton's need for a new arena as an opportunity to be the catalyst for the revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core. Following public consultations and negotiations with the [[City of Edmonton]], Katz Group and the city agreed to a public-private partnership to build [[Rogers Place]] arena, which would see the city retain ownership of the new arena, and Katz Group operate it (under OEG). The City's portion of arena funding will be paid through a Community Revitalization Levy and did not result in any new cost to taxpayers.<ref>{{cite web|title=Funding Agreement |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150712155036/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/the-agreement.aspx |archive-date=2015-07-12 }}</ref> Construction on the project began March 2014.<ref>{{cite news|title=Rogers Place construction starts Monday|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rogers-place-construction-starts-monday-1.2557811|publisher=CBC News|access-date=April 16, 2016|date=March 3, 2014}}</ref><br />
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Opened in September 2016, Rogers Place was marketed as one of North America's most advanced sports & entertainment venues, active year-round and featuring a 24,000 square foot grand entrance-way called the Ford Hall which can be used as public/private programmable space.<ref>{{cite web|title=Winter Garden |url=http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150507151321/http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/arena-winter-garden.aspx |archive-date=2015-05-07 }}</ref><br />
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With Rogers Place at its core, Katz Group has begun construction of the Edmonton Arena District (EAD),<ref>{{cite web|url=http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=80301 |title=Edmonton Downtown Arena and Entertainment District - Edmonton Oilers - News |website=Oilers.nhl.com |date=2012-05-17 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> slated to be Canada's largest mixed-use sports and entertainment development. The EAD will cover 25 contiguous acres of downtown Edmonton, and feature a 50,000 square foot public plaza, two office towers, a JW Marriott Hotel, a Gateway casino, over 1,000 luxury condos and rental apartments, and 270,000 square feet of retail space at a total cost of approximately $2.5 billion. In 2014, it was announced that the City of Edmonton and [[Stantec]] would be the major tenants of the two respective office towers. Stantec's tower will be the tallest in Edmonton at 69 storeys.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/62-storey-tower-to-be-built-in-downtown-edmonton-1.2747702 |title=62-storey tower to be built in downtown Edmonton - Edmonton - CBC News |website=Cbc.ca |date=2014-08-26 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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The Edmonton Arena District was formally renamed the [[Ice District]] on July 13, 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/2106848/welcome-to-the-ice-district-edmonton-arena-district-announces-official-name/|title=Welcome to Ice District! Edmonton Arena District announces official name - Edmonton - Global News|website=globalnews.ca|date=2015-07-13|access-date=2020-08-05}}</ref><br />
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==Philanthropy==<br />
In October 2006 Katz announced a $7 million donation to the University of Alberta Faculty of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences and Faculty of Law. Matched by the province, the gift was the largest donation ever to a Canadian pharmacy school. The west wing of the Health Research Innovation Facility at the corner of 87th Avenue and 114th Street in Edmonton has been named The Katz Group Centre for Pharmacy and Health Research. In 2009 Katz donated $20 Million to [[Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto]] and founded The Daryl A Katz Centre For Urgent And Critical Care.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mshfoundation.ca/page.aspx?pid=424 |title=Mount Sinai Hospital Foundation of Toronto |website=Mshfoundation.ca |date=2014-01-20 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> Katz has also given "millions" to the [[Stollery Children's Hospital]] in Edmonton, as well as supporting public events.<ref name="tsn.ca">{{cite web |url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |title=Decision looms on new downtown rink for Oilers |website=www.tsn.ca |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100524113236/http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=322173 |archive-date=24 May 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><br />
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Between 2005 and 2010, Katz and his wife have donated "over $50 million" to organizations and institutions across Canada.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |title=Katz, wife donate $500,000 to AGA |website=www.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |archive-date=10 November 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/Daryl+Renee+Katz+donate+Gallery+Alberta/2491478/story.html |title=Daryl and Renee Katz donate $500,000 to Art Gallery of Alberta |website=Edmontonjournal.com |date=2010-01-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><br />
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==Personal life==<br />
Katz' [[net worth]] is reported at US$4.2 billion, according to [[Forbes]].<ref>{{Cite web|title=Daryl Katz|url=https://www.forbes.com/profile/daryl-katz/|access-date=2021-08-07|website=Forbes|language=en}}</ref><br />
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Katz is married to Renee Gouin.<ref name=ArchivesCanada /> She is the daughter of [[Jean Ivan Gouin|Jean Yvon (Ivan) Gouin]]. In 1952, her father founded the North American Construction Group which became one of the largest mining and heavy construction companies in Canada.<ref>[http://www2.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/insight/story.html?id=25433850-1494-4be2-a74e-8ba819d6465c&p=1 ''Edmonton Journal'': "Daryl Katz: reclusive billionaire" by Rick McConnell, John MacKinnon and Gary Lamphier] December 17, 2012</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/remembering/obituary.aspx?n=jean-yvon-gouin-ivan&pid=98838924#fbLoggedOut |title=Jean Gouin Obituary - Vancouver, BC &#124; Remembering |website=Legacy.com |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref> The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref><br />
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In early 2017, Katz was accused by Brazilian actress and model Greice Santo and her husband R. J. Cipriani of offering money to the former in exchange for sexual favors. Santo also denounced Michael Gelmon, Katz's cousin and associate, for defending him and threatening to end her career in Hollywood if she spoke about the case.<ref name="CBC.ca">{{Cite web |last1=Geddes |first1=Ashley |last2=Huncar |first2=Andrea |date=April 6, 2017 |title=Brazilian model accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of offering money for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170407012003/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574 |archive-date=April 7, 2017 |access-date=April 18, 2021 |website=[[CBC.ca]]}}</ref><br />
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In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last1=Gatehouse |first1=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite news |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |newspaper=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> In August 2022, the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz;<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref><br />
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In 2019, the [[Oilers Entertainment Group]] released a statement confirming that Katz has been suffering from a life-threatening, antibiotic-resistant [[Sinusitis|bacterial sinus infection]]. [[Sportsnet]] hockey analyst [[John Shannon (sportscaster)|John Shannon]] tweeted that Katz carried an IV bag around-the-clock during [[Edmonton Oilers]]’ playoff run in 2017. He also underwent 3 surgeries in 10 months to battle the infection that has a 50-50 survival rate and his current prognosis looks positive.<ref>{{Cite web |title=What The Health?! Oilers' owner's life-threatening illness is a scary reminder of antibiotic resistance |url=https://ca.style.yahoo.com/daryl-katz-life-threatening-sinus-infection-145350853.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=ca.style.yahoo.com |language=en-CA}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Edmonton Oilers confirm owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness {{!}} The Star |url=https://www.thestar.com/amp/business/2019/05/07/edmonton-oilers-confirm-owner-daryl-katz-dealing-with-life-threatening-illness.html |access-date=2022-10-23 |website=www.thestar.com}}</ref><br />
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==New Arena==<br />
"Katz has hired a team of architects, engineers, consultants, and promoters to visualize a plan for a new arena for the Oilers, which he hopes the city will build. Through a subsidiary of Katz Group, presently derelict lands in downtown Edmonton have been purchased. Katz envisions a sports district. He has proposed to spearhead private development of condos, hotels, and entertainment venues in this area - if the city builds the arena. Controversy over the level of government funding, if any, that should be put in to the arena project is ongoing in Edmonton." THIS SHOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER PHILATROPHY <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.38.59.161|208.38.59.161]] ([[User talk:208.38.59.161|talk]]) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Image ==<br />
Should I crop the image a little closer so it shows him better in the info box? Good score on flickr btw.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 20:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pronounciation ==<br />
According to [http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/10/01/spf-nhl-five-question-edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz.html this ref] His name is pronounced ''Kate's''. Does anyone know the phonetic mark-up for it and should we add it?--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 22:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Has anyone heard how Mr. Katz wishes to be pronounced? That should be considered the right way. Otherwise I'd say it's "cuts" (Katze is 'cat' in German, in many German/Austrian dialects it is shortened to "Katz", which is also a not uncommon last name).[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons.<br />
This applies to the content removed in my edit. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 14:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::The man founds the largest pharmacy in Canada but then you remove the fact that his father founded a pharmacy (I guess not relevant). His wife is the daughter of a wealthy industrialist (who has his own wiki article) but then that gets removed. The source that names who his wife is is removed (I guess the wife's name is relevant but not his parents names) but then the name of his wife is left in the article (now unsourced) perhaps to be removed later as such. Then I go to your history and see that you recently edited an article for comedian [[Ross Shafer]] on May 16, 2013 but then leave the fact that he has "Sons: Adam, Ryan (from previous marriage); Daughter: Lauren (adopted with current wife Leah)" in the article which apparently are "encyclopedic". So why the apparent focus on Katz? <br />
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::Anyhow, standard policy is to include names of parents and children. There are 1000s of biographical articles with this basic information that are constantly being reviewed by administrators and this information is being left in. Anyhow you left out "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." There is nothing that says that it cannot be included and given the 1000s of articles that do include the names of parents, spouses, and children, the vast majority of administrators do not read BLPNAME as such.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::It does not say it "cannot be included". Rather it says, as quoted above, "the presumption of privacy is strong". I removed some personal information about family members on request per {{OTRS ticket|6976805|2013051410014014}}. The names of his parents and children do not help provide a "complete understanding of the subject". I have since readded the note about his father, but not the name, and included the citation to his wife's name. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 02:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I added back info on who Katz's wife's father as she is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Canada. I do not have access to the OTRS ticket which I would assume is publically accessible or else you would not send me a link. How do I get access? It would be a nice tool to have.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::::It isn't public. Please see [[WP:OTRS]] and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Actions_tagged_as_CheckUser.2C_Oversight.2C_OTRS_or_Arbitration_Committee|information on actions tagged as per OTRS]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 15:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Since when is jewish an ethnicity? It is a religion! People from any ethnicity can be from any religion. Jews from Aethiopia are most definitely a different ethnicity than Jews from central Europe. Religion can be changed, ethnicity cannot. --[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Withdrawal of Allegations ==<br />
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Hi. I work for Daryl Katz. There have been recent developments relating to the July 2022 allegations against Mr. Katz by the Buttons. Given that the accusers (who themselves still stand accused of sex crimes against minors) have voluntarily withdrawn the allegations, as documented by [https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ this article in Global News] and [https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/ this article in Sports Net], the paragraph should now be deleted from the article based on [[WP:UNDUE]]. No attention should be given to unfounded and now completely retracted allegations made by accused sex criminals. <br />
Thank you for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 19:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> I don't think this warrants outright removal, but I did add the dismissal. [[User:PK650|PK650]] ([[User talk:PK650|talk]]) 01:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hello {{u|PK650}}, thanks for adding the retraction to the article. I realize that information covered by the press is often worthy of inclusion regardless of outcome, but in this case, the counterclaims were filed and retracted in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant to include in the article, it may now be less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Looking forward to your thoughts on this, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegation update ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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'''I'd like to ask that the paragraph regarding ballet dancer Sage Humphries (Personal life section) be removed from the article.''' The counter-claims were filed and voluntarily retracted due to evidence they were false in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant for inclusion, it now seems less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. <br />
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If the community feels that the allegations must be included despite the above, I propose the following update to the text for improved accuracy, clarity and neutrality: <br />
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'''In July 2022, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid teenage ballet dancer [[Sage Humphries]] $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> The counterclaim arose as part of a sexual abuse lawsuit which Humphries and six other aspiring ballerinas filed against a prominent ballerina and her husband in 2021.<ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Less than a month later, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims about Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary,<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> and their lawyer apologized and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The paragraph is appropriate and relevant. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 05:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegations dismissed / Neutral language ==<br />
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I accept Quetstar's assertion that the inclusion of this information is relevant. To advance neutrality and accuracy, I am asking that the paragraph be modified as per the following: <br />
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'''In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> <ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> Less than a month later, in August 2022, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref>; their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The tone of the proposed paragraph is non-[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If DJ ''is'' a personal fan of Darryl Katz or has something to do with the Oilers owner. This would fall into COI territory. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
* On the contrary, I find this revised, well-sourced paragraph quite neutral, and plan on posting it myself with a tweak or two. Given that the claimants not only redacted their own pleading, admitted it was erroneous AND apologized fully for the accusation, the prior wording in the article is a great deal more lurid than justified by the genuine facts. This is, after all, a BLP. I am at somewhat of a loss in figuring out what [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] finds non-NPOV about it, and perhaps he should gain more experience on Wikipedia before jumping in to such an explosive, high-profile case.<p>Speaking to the COI, it is no violation if the editor doesn't edit the article, but instead raises issues here. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Additions and changes to Personal life section ==<br />
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I'd like to modify some of the details in this article, primarily to the Personal life section. These changes will add some detail and remove irrelevant personal information as per [[WP:BLPPRIVACY| Wikipeidia's policies]]. These are my requests:<br />
*Removal of all the information about the parents of Daryl Katz's wife (second sentence of the second paragraph); adding a sentence about the couple's children: <br />
::'''The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Removal of the Katz's exact address and excessive detail about the home from the third paragraph; suggested text:<br />
::'''Katz lives in the [[Parkview, Edmonton|Parkview neighbourhood]] of Edmonton in a {{convert|25000|sqft|m2}} riverfront residence, estimated to be worth C$13 million.<ref>{{cite news|author=Gordon Kent |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/business/real-estate/property-values-on-the-rise-in-edmonton |title=Top homes worth a bundle in Edmonton millionaire's market |newspaper=[[Edmonton Journal]] |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref>'''<br />
*Clarification of the details about Katz's health in the last paragraph of that section; suggested text:<br />
::'''It was reported in May 2019 and confirmed by the Oilers Entertainment Group that Katz had been dealing with a life-threatening sinus infection. They also confirmed that Katz had undergone three surgeries in a span of ten months.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-illness-1.5126650|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness, team says}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-sinus-infection-1.5131497|title=Oiler owner's life-threatening sinus infection part of rise in antibiotic resistance, expert says|date=10 May 2022|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref> In September 2019, he provided an update on his medical condition stating, "Clearly, it’s been a battle,...I am relieved to tell you the worst is behind me and I'm going to be just fine.”<ref>{{Cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz provides health update and expectations of team - Edmonton {{!}} Globalnews.ca|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/5909327/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-health-team/|access-date=2021-08-30|website=630CHED|language=en-US}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC) <br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I've removed some of the excess detail, and made that simple insert about the children. I agree that including Katz's address is out of bounds, so I've just stricken that paragraph entirely: yes, yes, we get that very rich people live in swanky homes, but this isn't People Magazine. Nor is that he had a bad sinus infection a particularly encyclopedic element, and I struck that entirely. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you so much for this prompt and comprehensive review of my request. These changes improve the article's encyclopedic value and I appreciate your help. There are some additional modifications I'd like to make to other parts of the article; I am working through these and will post an additional edit request in the future. Thank you again. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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I appreciate the thoughtful review of my previous edit requests and the implementation of the changes that have made this article more encyclopedic and accurate. I'd like to request the following changes:<br />
*<s>Inclusion of two websites in the infobox - https://www.katzgroup.ca/about-us/our-people/daryl-katz and https://www.oeg.ca/about-us/our-people/daryl-katz</s><br />
*Renaming of the Pharmacy business section to be Pharmacy career, and the inclusion of the value of the sale (as mentioned in the last sentence of the last paragraph in the section); suggested language: <br />
::'''Katz Group sold its network of approximately 460 corporate-owned 450 Rexall-branded outlets to McKesson Corporation in 2016 for C$3 billion.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Tracer|first=Zachary|title=McKesson Buys Canada's Rexall Drugstores for $2.23 Billion|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-02/mckesson-to-buy-pharmacy-chain-rexall-health-for-2-2-billion|date=2 March 2016|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Renaming of third section to be Sports and entertainment career with a subsection for Purchase of Edmonton Oilers and Creation of Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG)<br />
*Inclusion of additional details in this section:<br />
**Worth of OEG; suggested language:<br />
::'''In 2021, OEG was valued by Sportico at $2 billion, including the Oilers team and its related businesses.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Badenhausen|first=Kurt|title=Toronto Maple Leafs Head Sportico's 2021 NHL Valuations at $2 billion|url=https://www.sportico.com/valuations/teams/2021/toronto-maple-leafs-nhl-most-valuable-team-1234644034/|date=14 October 2021|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''</br><br />
:*The dissolution of the partnership with Joel Silver; suggested language:<br />
::'''The partnership was dissolved in 2019 and Silver Pictures carried on under Hal Sadoff.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Ewing|first=Jeff|title=Silver Pictures Now Moving Forward without Founder Joel Silver|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2019/06/25/silver-pictures-now-moving-forward-without-founder-joel-silver/?sh=3e89bfcb1b76|date=25 June 2019|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Inclusion of additional detail to the Philanthropy section; suggested revision of last sentence:<br />
::'''Between 2005 and 2010, Katz and his wife have donated "over $50 million" to organizations and institutions across Canada, including a 2010 donation of $500,000 to the Art Gallery of Alberta, renaming the gallery in memory of his wife's mother.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |title=Katz, wife donate $500,000 to AGA |website=www.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |archive-date=10 November 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/Daryl+Renee+Katz+donate+Gallery+Alberta/2491478/story.html |title=Daryl and Renee Katz donate $500,000 to Art Gallery of Alberta |website=Edmontonjournal.com |date=2010-01-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title=Katz, wife donate $500,00 to AGA|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor=|date=28 January 2010|access-date=19 September 2022|publisher=Edmonton Journal}}</ref>'''<br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Katz doesn't have a personal website, so i have declined the infobox part. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 19:31, 28 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you for your input. Tagging previously helpful editors, including {{u|Ravenswing}} and {{u|PK650}}, for further assistance with the remaining portion of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flibirigit&diff=1117231769User talk:Flibirigit2022-10-20T16:16:38Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Help with Daryl Katz article */ new section</p>
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{{u|Flibirigit}}, I saw your active participation on [[WP:CA]] and [[WP:HOCKEY]] and would very much appreciate your input on my [[Talk:Daryl_Katz#Section_titles_and_additional_detail| pending edit request]]. My COI keeps me from editing directly, but I would value your review of suggestions, designed to update and improve the article. Thank you for your time and assistance. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vaselineeeeeeee&diff=1115468474User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee2022-10-11T16:31:29Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Edits to Daryl Katz article */ new section</p>
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==Italian diaspora==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno del tuo aiuto: ho ampliato l'articolo [[Italian diaspora]], che andrebbe ripassato. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:Volevo avvisarti che ho fatto due modifiche minime all'articolo: però non preoccuparti, continua pure con la tua rilettura, non ne farò altre di modifiche. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:18, 18 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
::Scusami ancora, volevo segnalarti che ho apportato una modifica minima a un capitolo che non hai ancora letto: mancava una fonte per completare la tabella. Vai quindi pure avanti con la lettura. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:02, 21 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Nella sezione "Interwar period" dove scritto "Also: "...The stranger walking ''blah blah''", puoi renderlo più chiaro da quale articolo di notizie viene questo? Grazie, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 20:15, 21 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Grazie per aver modificato il paragrafo per avere più senso, ma i lettori ancora non sanno da dove provenga. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 21:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{done}} l'ho ritradotto: precedentemente era tradotto veramente male, credo dall'italiano. Proviene sempre da ''New York Times'', c'è scritto nel testo: forse sarebbe meglio metterlo sulla stessa riga, in modo che continui linearmente, altrimenti sembra da un altro quotidiano. Ah, ho approfittato per fare la mia ultima aggiunta, ovvero il template {{tl|Infobox ethnic group}} (avevo intenzione di aggiungerlo quando avevi finito, ma ho approfittato della tua pausa di lettura). Tra l'altro ho dato anche una sistemata a ''Short description''. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::Prova a vedere adesso se si capisce. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Fantastico. Grazie che chiarisce. È stato un po' confuso perché sono stati menzionati tre titoli di articoli del NYT. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 21:31, 21 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ok, perfetto. Adesso continua pure con la lettura, come ti ho scritto prima, non interverrò più sull'articolo, erano proprio le ultime modifiche a cui pensavo (intendo l'infobox e la Short description). Al limite se ci sono altre parti poco chiare, chiedi pure. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:35, 21 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::::Scusami, ti ho conflittato ? [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:21, 22 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} La sezione sull'Africa era troppo interessante perche' mio nonno e' nato a Bengahzi nel 1938 (suo padre lavorava sui ponti) e poco dopo sono tornati in Sicilia. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 21:25, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Me lo immaginavo che fosse un articolo che ti toccava da vicino... :-) Io sto aggiungendo le ultime informazioni (poi la voce non la tocco più) nel paragrafo "Descendants of Italian immigrants": prima il capitolo era troppo scarso, soprattutto considerando la sua importanza. Ho quasi finito: ti avviso appena ho finito. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::::::{{done}} ultime modifiche finite. Continua pure la lettura senza problemi. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::::::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ho finito. Non è ancora perfetto, ma è leggibile ed è piacevole. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:56, 23 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Grazie mille per l'aiuto che mi dai... :-) Ho appena inserito il capitolo [[Italian diaspora#Filmography|Filmography]], per il quale non ho avuto bisogno del tuo aiuto (è un semplice elenco). Direi che l'articolo è finito, ora c'è tutto sull'argomento. Un caro saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:06, 24 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
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:{{ping|usernamekiran}} Hi. I added the link [[fixer (person)]] to the article. Seems to have many meanings. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 13:06, 18 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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==Italy (geographical region)==<br />
Ciao, ho ampliato l'articolo [[Italy (geographical region)]], che andrebbe ripassato. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:20, 30 October 2021 (UTC).<br />
:Ho finito. Saluti, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, grazie. Alla prossima. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:44, 1 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
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==List of Italian flags and Italian diaspora==<br />
Ciao, potresti dare una ripassata all'articolo [[List of Italian flags]] e al nuovo paragrafo [[Italian diaspora#Internal migrations|Internal migrations]] dell'articolo "Italian diaspora" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_diaspora&diff=1053264966&oldid=1053264245 qui] ho fatto un'aggiunta all'incipit: il resto dell'articolo è rimasto immutato) ? Ti ringrazio in anticipo. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:59, 2 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:Ho fatto le correzioni. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
::Grazie, alla prossima. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:08, 3 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
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==Name of Italy==<br />
Ciao, ho ampliato l'articolo [[Name of Italy]]: potresti darci una ripassata ? Grazie in anticipo. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:40, 5 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Cosa intendi con questo? "or in any case strongly problematic (such as the connection of the name with the vine)" "vine"? '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:15, 6 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
::Ciao, intendo la [[Vitis vinifera]]. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:38, 6 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
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== Help with the [[Milan]] article ==<br />
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i'm asking for your help because i don't know what else to do! I saw that you are interested in articles about Italy, and Milan is currently the most important city in the country, it's not possible that her page here on wikipedia is being poorly edited like that! There is a user who is constantly changing information from the Milan page, I tried to talk to him on the talk page with him, but it was useless! previously there were other users who were also reverting what he writes on the page, but now i think it's just me! He removes what is written (and verified with quotes) and writes things that he takes out of his head, without any verification and mostly false things. If you can help, or advise/block him to have more consistency with the written things, it would be a huge help! [[User:Jerkusla|Jerkusla]] ([[User talk:Jerkusla|talk]]) 14:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
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==Italian cuisine and Italian meal structure==<br />
Ciao, daresti una rilettura agli articoli [[Italian cuisine]] e [[Italian meal structure]], che ho ampliato e migliorato ? Ti ringrazio in anticipo. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, ho visto che non hai ancora riletto l'articolo [[Italian cuisine]]: magari perché pensi che io non abbia ancora finito. Volevo dirti di rileggerla tranquillamente, non la modificherò più, avendo finito il lavoro. Adesso su Wikipedia in inglese sono passato ad altri argomenti. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:07, 21 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao. No, non preoccuparti, lo sapevo, ero solo impegnato e questo era un articolo lungo. Dovrebbe essere fatto ora. Che ne dici di "pasticceria", invece, per la sezione "Food establishments"? '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 22:08, 23 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::Sì, è un'ottima idea, la "pasticceria" manca proprio. Ci pensi tu ? Potrei aggiungerla io, ma dopo dovrei comunque chiederti di rileggere la descrizione. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:36, 24 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} How about "A shop that serves a variety of Italian pastries and confectioneries". '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 15:59, 24 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::::Metterei anche le torte: "A shop serving a variety of Italian pastries, confectioneries and cakes". [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::Mi è venuta in mente anche la "fiaschetteria": [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057114154&oldid=1057112817 qui] la mia aggiunta, al limite dagli una rilettura, così è a posto. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::Ti segnalo che ho fatto alcune piccole aggiunte [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057291597&oldid=1057114330 qui], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057293639&oldid=1057291597 qui], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057294538&oldid=1057293742 qui], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057304674&oldid=1057301789 qui] e [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057305243&oldid=1057304674 qui], tutte nel paragrafo "International". Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:13, 26 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::Ultime due mie brevi aggiunte ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057319704&oldid=1057319068 qui] e [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057320356&oldid=1057319704 qui]): non mi viene in mente più niente. In effetti prima era un paragrafo piuttosto riassuntivo, adesso direi che va bene, essendo sufficientemente approfondito. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:28, 26 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::::Tutto bene. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 02:47, 27 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Ultimissima breve aggiunta [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057416520&oldid=1057322878 qui]. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:36, 27 November 2021 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057479090&oldid=1057450749 Questa] è quasi sicuramente la mia ultima aggiunta: altro non mi viene in mente, ed ho controllato con Google se qualche altra cucina degli oriundi elencati in [[Italian diaspora#Descendants of Italian immigrants]] sia influenzata dalla cucina italiana, ma l'esito è stato negativo. Grazie per la pazienza... :-) --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:25, 27 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::::::Ho fatto [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057826769&oldid=1057807220 questa] aggiunta sulla tutela legale: infatti dopo, nel corso dell'articolo, se ne parla senza però spiegare l'argomento. Sempre nello stesso edit, ho anche aggiunto un breve paragrafo sullo ''[[slow food]]'', visto che è nato in Italia. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:45, 29 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::::::::Ti segnalo [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057941784&oldid=1057935149 questa] mia altra aggiunta: così si capisce perché ci sono tutele legali per molti prodotti alimentari italiani. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::::::::Ti segnalo una mia piccola [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1057992990&oldid=1057986532 aggiunta]. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC).<br />
:::::::::::::::Ti segnalo che ho creato un nuovo articolo, piuttosto breve, [[Denominazione comunale d'origine]], che necessiterebbe di una rilettura. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC).<br />
::::::::::::::::Ti segnalo [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_cuisine&diff=1058444435&oldid=1058320008 questa] mia piccola aggiunta. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:32, 3 December 2021 (UTC).<br />
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== Milanesa: well done! ==<br />
Thanks and keep up the good work.--[[User:Mondschein|Mondschein]] ([[User talk:Mondschein|talk]]) 00:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)<br />
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==Carroccio==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che dessi una rilettura all'articolo [[Carroccio]]: l'ho scritto tempo fa, prima che ci conoscessimo, ma nel frattempo nessuno l'ha riletto approfonditamente. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC).<br />
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==Italian Sounding and Italian irredentism in Dalmatia==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi due brevi articoli: [[Italian Sounding]] e [[Italian irredentism in Dalmatia]]. Un saluto, e grazie per l'aiuto che mi dai. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:44, 17 December 2021 (UTC).<br />
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==Tourism in Italy and Vittorio Calcina==<br />
Ciao, auguri di buone feste anche da parte mia... :-) Avrei bisogno che rileggessi un capitolo che ho inserito nell'articolo "Tourism in Italy": [[Tourism in Italy#Factors of tourist interest]]. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, potresti rileggere l'incipit (su Wikipedia in inglese credo che lo chiamate "top") dell'articolo [[Tourism in Italy]] e il nuovo breve articolo [[Vittorio Calcina]] ? Grazie e buon anno. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:53, 1 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Buon Natale e Buon Anno! Done. Alla prossima, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 03:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno di una tua rilettura a due brevi capitoli che ho inserito nell'articolo "Tourism in Italy": [[Tourism in Italy#Spa tourism]] e [[Tourism in Italy#Nightlife tourism]]. Per un po' non dovrei più romperti le scatole. Riprenderò infatti il mio lavoro di aggiunta fonti agli articoli riguardanti l'Italia senza aggiunte significative. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:56, 8 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, avrei bisogno di una rilettura per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tourism_in_Italy&diff=1066742747&oldid=1066711175 questo] mio breve inserimento. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 22:34, 19 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
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:{{ping|A.S. Brown}} Thanks, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 16:35, 2 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Cinema of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che rileggessi due brevi capitoli dell'articolo "Cinema of Italy": [[Cinema of Italy#1910s]] (escluso "Cinema futurista") e [[Cinema of Italy#1920s]], cui vanno aggiunte tre miei edit ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063585841&oldid=1063579066 ], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063586948&oldid=1063585841 ] e [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063587213&oldid=1063586948 ]). Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:35, 3 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao, questo "all favored by the incessant use of the first floor which further amplifies the expressive baggage of the actress" non e' chiaro. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 01:48, 5 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::L'ho riscritto: "all favored by the incessant use of [[close-up]] which focuses the attention on the expressiveness of the actress.", al limite dacci un'occhiata. Ora ho terminato le mie ultime aggiunge corpose (adesso tutti i capitoli sono equilibrati), avrei quindi bisogno che mi rileggessi [[Cinema of Italy#1890s]], [[Cinema of Italy#1900s]] e [[Cinema of Italy#1970s]] (in quest'ultimo caso, esclusi i sottocapitoli "Commedia sexy all'italiana (1970s-1980s)" e "Fantozzi (1970s-1990s)"), oltre a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063900794&oldid=1063900419 questa], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063930746&oldid=1063930518 questa], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063938652&oldid=1063933415 questa] e [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1063951800&oldid=1063943134 questa] piccola aggiunta, oltre che tre brevi nuovi articoli: [[Italo Pacchioni]], [[Cineteca Nazionale]] e [[Cineteca Italiana]]. E con questo, il cinema italiano su Wikipedia in inglese è a posto... :-) Grazie per la pazienza. Un saluto. -[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Questo "If the response of the popular classes is enthusiastic, the technological novelty will be treated with reserve, at least at the beginning, by a part of the intellectual world and by the press." "Determined to experiment with the new medium, they let themselves be taken back to ''S.A.R. il Principe di Napoli e la Principessa Elena visitano il battistero di S. Giovanni a Firenze '' ("Their real heights the Prince of Naples and Princess Elena visit the [[Florence Baptistery|baptistery of Saint John]] in Florence") and on the day of their wedding in ''Dimostrazione popolare alle LL. AA. i Principi sposi (al Pantheon - Roma)'' ("Popular demonstration at the their heights the princes spouses (at the [[Pantheon, Rome|Pantheon]] - Rome)") non e' chiaro. Penso di sapere cosa stai cercando di dire ma non sono riuscito a capire come rielaborarlo. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 02:44, 8 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Le ho riscritte: "If the interest of the popular classes is enthusiastic, the technological novelty will be snubbed, at least at the beginning, by a part of the intellectuals and the press." e "Interested in experimenting with the new medium, they will get filmed in ''S.A.R. il Principe di Napoli e la Principessa Elena visitano il battistero di S. Giovanni a Firenze '' ("Their real heights the Prince of Naples and Princess Elena visit the [[Florence Baptistery|baptistery of Saint John]] in Florence") and on the day of their wedding in ''Dimostrazione popolare alle LL. AA. i Principi sposi (al Pantheon - Roma)'' ("Popular demonstration at the their heights the princes spouses (at the [[Pantheon, Rome|Pantheon]] - Rome)")". --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 10:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, ci sarebbero due frasi che ho inserito nell'articolo "Cinema of Italy" da controllare: "Not long before, in 1895, [[Filoteo Alberini]] patented his "[[kinetograph]]", a shooting and projecting device not unlike that of the Lumières brothers" nel capitolo "1890s" e "As a result, [[movie theater]]s began showing mainly [[Hollywood]] films, which steadily took over, while many other movie theaters closed" nel capitolo "1980s". E con questo, l'argomento è concluso. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 10:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
::Ciao, ho fatto un'ultima piccola aggiunta all'articolo [[Cinema of Italy]], che andrebbe riletta: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1065488077&oldid=1065467588 ho completato] l'incipit descrivendo meglio i contenuti dell'articolo. Grazie in anticipo. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao, questo non e' chiaro "Since the 1980s, due to multiple factors, Italian production has gone through a profound crisis that has not prevented the production of quality films, awarded and appreciated all over the world." Se il cinema italiano e' andato in crisi, come non ha impedito il cinema di qualità? Forse espandilo un po cosi e' piu' chiaro. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 21:19, 13 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Sì, hai ragione, manca un pezzo: "...has not prevented the production of quality films in the following decade, thanks to a partial revival of Italian cinema, awarded and appreciated all over the world". --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::::Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un nuovo capitolo che ho inserito nell'articolo "Cinema of Italy": [[Cinema of Italy#Museums]]. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
::::::Ciao, andrebbe riletta una mia [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1066502818&oldid=1066339180 piccola aggiunta]. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== Help with Gulf States Toyota Distributors article ==<br />
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Hi [[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|Vaselineeeeeeee]],<br />
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Happy 2022! I hope you are doing well. Previously you had helped review and update suggestions on the [[Gulf States Toyota]] wiki page. <br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_States_Toyota_Distributors<br />
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I have added additional suggested edits to the Talk page and would kindly request your help in reviewing those recommended updates. It would be a huge help. <br />
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Thank you for your time and consideration! [[User:SSuggests|SSuggests]] ([[User talk:SSuggests|talk]]) 22:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|SSuggests}} Hi. Thanks. The article is confusing to me, how its title is Gulf States but is still written using Friedkin Group. I'm not sure what's what. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 23:38, 11 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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{{reply to|User:Vaselineeeeeeee}} Yes I agree the page is confusing currently because the current version focuses on Friedkin Group. Can you help update the page to make it focus on Gulf States Toyota which is the intended topic of the page? Thank you. [[User:SSuggests|SSuggests]] ([[User talk:SSuggests|talk]]) 23:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
==Promotion of [[Serie A Footballer of the Year]]==<br />
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==Geography of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che rileggessi l'articolo [[Geography of Italy]], che aveva l'avviso {{tl|Expand Italian}}. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Brutte notizie: ti segnalo [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinema_of_Italy&diff=1069315009&oldid=1069055459 questo]. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
==Mora==<br />
Thank you for bringing that to my attention. My library has two editions of that book, one from 2012 and one from 2004. I thought I had the 2012 edition, but it seems it was actually the 2004 edition-I suppose one should check those things. The particular passage I cited is: "Police credit Mora for inadvertently leading to the downfall of international Sicilian money launderer Alfonso Caruana. In 199, while monitoring Mora's telephone conversatons, police heard of an upcoming wedding, and set up surveillance at Toronto's posh Sutton Place Hotel. The father of the bride was identified as Caruana, who was wanted by Italian authorities for money laundering and Mafia associations. Caruana had fled from Italy, but the police didn't knew where he had settled until the wedding. The investigation that followed involved several countries and a dozen law agencies, and by the time it was over, Mora was dead, and several Caruana family members were charged and convicted." (Auger, Michel; Edwards, Peter ''The Encyclopedia of Canadian Organized Crime: From Captain Kidd to Mom Boucher'', Toronto: McClelland & Stewart, 2004). I believe one can find the same passage on pages 161-162 of the 2012 edition. I hope this all this clears up, and thank you for all your help and hard work. Best wishes! --[[User:A.S. Brown|A.S. Brown]] ([[User talk:A.S. Brown|talk]]) 08:26, 9 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Ho bisogno di aiuto==<br />
Ciao, ho bisogno del tuo aiuto: dopo le mie aggiunte all'articolo [[Italian Civil War]], nelle note sono comparsi messaggi di errore, ma non riesco a capire il motivo. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Volevo farti sapere che nel frattempo il problema è stato sistemato da un altro utente. Grazie lo stesso per l'attenzione. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Italian Civil War==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che rileggessi l'articolo [[Italian Civil War]], che aveva l'avviso {{tl|Expand Italian}}. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao amico, questo articolo purtroppo è appena troppo lungo per me. Mi piace molto esaminare il tuo lavoro, ma questa volta è troppo lungo. Ho chiesto che fosse esaminato dalla [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests|gilda]]. Probabilmente ci vorrà un mese. Alla prossima, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 20:18, 16 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Va bene, grazie lo stesso. Alla prossima. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
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Ciao, avrei una domanda farti: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_Civil_War&diff=1075201203&oldid=1074133088 questa aggiunta di un avviso] a me sembra un po' eccesiva, o questa è solo un'opinione mia ? L'articolo ha infatti ben 163 note. Al limite si potrebbero mettere dei {{tl|cn}} nei passaggi dove è necessario. O sbaglio ? Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:43, 4 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao. Le fonti sembrano un po' scarso, ma penso che l'avviso sia un po' troppo, sì. Tuttavia, non rimuoverò questo, ma puoi apportare una modifica [[WP:BOLD]] o utilizzare la pagina di discussione. Se puoi, sarebbe una buona idea trovare quante più fonti possibili per correggere le lacune, soprattutto prima che il grande 'ce' sia ottimale. Saluti '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 15:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, grazie per la risposta. Alla prossima. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 15:36, 4 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::Ho optato [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Italian_Civil_War&curid=10753091&diff=1075220881&oldid=1072267247 per il confronto nella pagina di discussione] (le sue ragioni ce le ha: conviene chiarirsi): se lui non mette i {{tl|cn}}, me li metteresti tu ? Infatti la sensibilità per questo aspetto è diversa tra Wikipedia in inglese e Wikipedia in italiano, e su Wikipedia in inglese sarei in difficoltà a capire dove mettere io le fonti (l'articolo l'ho infatti tradotto pari pari da Wikipedia in italiano, dove non ha tag). Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
::::{{done}} problema risolto, ho risolto tutti i {{tl|cn}} che l'utente che aveva precedentemente messo il tag (da lui poi rimosso) ha gentilmente messo su mia richiesta fatta nella pagina di discussione dell'articolo. Adesso l'articolo è pronto per il gilda. Avrei bisogno di una cosa veloce: che mi rileggessi l'incipit dell'articolo [[List of regional parks of Italy]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Volcanism of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che rileggessi l'articolo [[Volcanism of Italy]], che aveva l'avviso {{tl|Expand Italian}}. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao. Fatto. Ho notato che hai fatto molte aggiunte alla pagina [[Italy]], fammi sapere quando è necessario modificare il testo, anche se so che probabilmente ci vorrà molto tempo - sarebbe un buon articolo anche da fare correttamente alla gilda quando è tutto fatto. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 23:26, 22 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, grazie, va bene. Ci vorrà ancora un bel po' di tempo ora che ripasserò tutti i paragrafi (sistemando anche le relative voci di approfondimento linkate in "main article", "further information", "see also", ecc.). Come puoi vedere sono ancora alla sezione geografica, quindi sono ancora all'inizio. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::Ciao, avrei una rilettura veloce da proporti (il testo è veramente poco): dovresti rileggermi l'incipit (credo che qui su Wikipedia in inglese lo chiamate "top") degli articoli [[List of lakes of Italy]] e [[List of rivers of Italy]], oltre a questo nuovo capitolo che ho aggiunto [[List of rivers of Italy#Characteristics of Italian rivers]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Mappa da migliorare==<br />
Ciao, conosci qualcuno su Wikipedia in inglese che sia in grado di migliorare questa mappa [[:File:Italy natural parks.png]] (magari tu stesso... :-))? Come puoi vedere qua [[Italy#Environment]], dove questa mappa è inserita, la resa grafica è veramente pessima. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ciao, conosco qualcuno che posso fare ping. Puoi descrivere cosa vuoi esattamente fatto alla mappa? '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Sì, innanzitutto i confini, che secondo me dovrebbero essere più spessi (nell'immagine inserita nell'articolo "Italy", non si vedono proprio), ma più in generale l'immagine dovrebbe essere più definita, adesso è troppo sgranata (in altre parole, la definizione è troppo bassa). [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC).<br />
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*{{ping|Nsophiay}} Hi. I noticed you work with maps on some COVID-19 pages and was wondering if you could help with this map above or point me to someone who can. LukeWiller says te borders should be thicker and the resolution should be higher as it's too grainy. Thanks, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 14:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ciao, I'll see what I can do :) It might take me a good week or two. --<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-weight:bold;">[[User:Nsophiay|Nsophiay]]</span> ([[User_talk:Nsophiay|talk]]) 18:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Replied on your talk page. --<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-weight:bold;">[[User:Nsophiay|Nsophiay]]</span> ([[User_talk:Nsophiay|talk]]) 20:23, 6 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==List of national parks of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei una rilettura molto veloce da sottoporti: dovresti rileggere l'incipit (credo che qui su Wikipedia in inglese lo chiamate "top") dell'articolo [[List of national parks of Italy]]. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Flag of Italy==<br />
Abbiamo un [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_Italy&diff=1075930854&oldid=1075562203 problema]: un IP ha aggiunto all'articolo il template {{tl|Tone}}. Tra l'altro secondo me è un tag messo nel posto sbagliato (non vale per tutto l'articolo): è solo la sezione storica che potrebbe avere questo problema, poiché il resto è solo descrittivo, o sbaglio ? Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:38, 8 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Tra l'altro ti stavo per scrivere anche per un altro motivo: avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi questi due brevi paragrafi, [[Climate of Italy#Generality]] e [[Climate of Italy#Extremes]]. Ciao, [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Sto notando che hai aggiunto un po' più di informazioni alla sezione della storica dopo che ho fatto l'intero ce l'anno scorso. Farò un altro ce della sezione storica. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 23:54, 8 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, grazie per il nuovo ce per l'articolo sulla bandiera. Avrei altri due paragrafi che necessitano di una tua rilettura: [[Climate of Italy#Sunshine duration and cloud cover]] e [[Climate of Italy#Climate of Italy and global climate changes]]. E con questo, ho finito di ampliare l'articolo sul clima. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:17, 9 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Fauna of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei che mi rileggessi un breve paragrafo: [[Fauna of Italy#Biodiversity]]. Per il resto, non ho fatto altre modifiche sostanziali all'articolo, che ho finito di sistemare. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Approfitto per farti una domanda. Ma il tag {{tl|disputed}} sull'articolo [[List of Italian inventions and discoveries]] si può togliere ? Ho letto la discussione e sono d'accordo con te: al limite, se ci sono invenzioni contestate, si segnalano quelle, non si mette un tag all'intero articolo. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:43, 11 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Sì, l'ho visto, c'è stata qualche discussione sulla pagina di discussione se vuoi leggerla. Purtroppo non saprei da dove cominciare e non ho tempo. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:43, 14 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, grazie per la risposta. Alla prossima. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Law of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Law of Italy]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Judiciary of Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Judiciary of Italy]]. Grazie, come sempre, per l'aiuto che mi dai. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, avrei bisogno di una rilettura di un brevissimo paragrafo: [[Tourism in Italy#LGBT tourism]]. Un saluto. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tourism_in_Italy&diff=1080004054&oldid=1079991084 una mia piccola aggiunta al paragrafo in questione] (è la prima parte: dopo il paragrafo è rimasto immutato). Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:18, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Citation issue ==<br />
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Hey Vaselineeeeeeee, in the early career section of [[Giuliano Maiorana]], I think the [https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SLsTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iJADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5746%2C2817528 2nd citation] works better than [https://lasoledaddelnueve.blogspot.com/2016/08/interview-former-manchester-united.html?m=1 the 1st] for the claim he "was born in Cambridge" because it calls Cambridge United his "home town club".<br>Can you help reorganise the citations please? -- [[User:Pingualuit|Pingualuit]] ([[User talk:Pingualuit|talk]]) 01:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|Pingualuit}} The second citation is listed at the Cambridge sentence. What exactly is the issue? '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 15:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
Sorry, I meant the [https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SLsTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iJADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5746%2C2817528 2nd citation] in that section, the 3rd in the overall article.<br>I've reworded my request to hopefully be clearer. -- [[User:Pingualuit|Pingualuit]] ([[User talk:Pingualuit|talk]]) 19:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
:I've simply added both citations to the Cambridge section. Regards, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 19:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
Thank you! My last concern is that it says "born in England to Italian parents" twice, first in the lede, then in the very next sentence at the start of the career section.<br>I don't think it reads that good and maybe violating [[WP:MOSETHNICITY]]. What do you think please? -- [[User:Pingualuit|Pingualuit]] ([[User talk:Pingualuit|talk]]) 21:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Tourism in Italy==<br />
Ciao, innanzitutto buona Pasqua... :-) Avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi due brevi capitoli che inserito in "Tourism in Italy": [[Tourism in Italy#Shopping tourism]] e [[Tourism in Italy#Roots tourism]]. Un saluto, e grazie di tutto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:46, 17 April 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un breve capitolo che ho inserito: [[Tourism in Italy#Student programs tourism]]. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC).<br />
::Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un breve capitolo che ho inserito: [[Tourism in Italy#Tourist flows]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 12:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un breve capitolo che ho inserito: [[Tourism in Italy#River and canal tourism]]. Inoltre, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi il primo paragrafo (quello che inizia "In the decades following the unification of Italy..." e che termina con "...in agricultural equipment, but in such things as low-risk state bonds". Il resto è del testo che era già presente prima, a cui ho fatto solo qualche modifica) del capitolo [[Economy of Italy#Southern question]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
::::Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un breve capitolo che ho profondamente ampliato: [[Tourism in Italy#Ancient vacation in Italy]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Comune==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Comune]], che ho parecchio ampliato. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Energy in Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Energy in Italy]], che ho parecchio ampliato. Il testo però non è tantissimo, l'articolo contiene perlopiù tabelle. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== GOCE copyedit done ==<br />
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:{{ping|Quid Est Squid}} [[User:LukeWiller]] and I thank you! '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:01, 25 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Quid Est Squid}} Thanks also from me ... :-) --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:20, 25 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Electricity sector in Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Electricity sector in Italy]], che ho parecchio ampliato. Anche n questo caso il testo non è tantissimo, l'articolo contiene perlopiù tabelle. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 17:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== [[A.C. Monza]] ==<br />
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Hi, how's it going? My hometown club [[A.C. Monza]] have just gained promotion to the Serie A for the first time, and it's been listed for [[WP:GAN]]. If you have time, are you interested in reviewing it? Thanks, [[User:Nehme1499|<b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b>]][[User talk:Nehme1499|<sub><b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#27B382">1499</b></sub>]] 12:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Nehme1499]], I noticed that that’s great! I have no experience reviewing GANs, but [[User:Kingsif]] has reviewed many of my noms on asking, so maybe he can work on this one? I can certainly help when the review comes in although I’m less active these days. Thanks, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 15:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::[[User:Kingsif]] '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 15:10, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Hey {{re|Nehme1499}} that's awesome, I expect a football club will have a long article, and I'm busy, but I can review it if you don't mind a little wait? [[User:Kingsif|Kingsif]] ([[User talk:Kingsif|talk]]) 21:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
::{{ping|Kingsif}} Sure thing. If you could get to it on your own time it would be great :) [[User:Nehme1499|<b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#000080">Nehme</b>]][[User talk:Nehme1499|<sub><b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#27B382">1499</b></sub>]] 22:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Science and technology in Italy ==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi l'articolo [[Science and technology in Italy]], che ho parecchio ampliato. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== Italian language ==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi il capitolo [[Italian language#Geographic distribution]], a cui ho fatto delle aggiunte. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC).<br />
:Scusami, mi ero dimenticato di aggiungere una brevissima frase ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_language&diff=1092194359&oldid=1092192557 questa]), che ho poi leggermente modificato. Al limite dagli un'occhiata. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:30, 8 June 2022 (UTC).<br />
::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_language&curid=14708&diff=1092201091&oldid=1092199346 Ultimissima] aggiunta e poi abbiamo finito... :-) --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== Italy national football team all-time record ==<br />
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Just to let you know that I have added [[Talk:Italy national football team all-time record#Unofficial matches|a section]] to [[Talk:Italy national football team all-time record|the talk page]]. [[User:Vesuvio14|Vesuvio14]] ([[User talk:Vesuvio14|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Tourism in Italy==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno che mi rileggessi un breve capitolo che ho inserito: [[Tourism in Italy#Luxury tourism]]. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 21:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC).<br />
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==Province of Carnaro==<br />
Ciao, avrei bisogno di un aiuto. Ho provato a spostare [[Province of Carnaro]] a [[Province of Fiume]], ma mi è stato impedito perché quest'ultimo è un suo redirect. "Province of Fiume" dovrebbe però essere il suo titolo corretto, visto che gli altri nomi delle province italiane richiamano il nome del capoluogo. Conosci qualcuno che potrebbe effettuare lo spostamento (su Wikipedia in italiano lo chiamiamo "inversione di redirect") ?. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LukeWiller}} Nessun problema, l'ho appena fatto! Saluti, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 20:09, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, grazie... :-) Alla prossima. Ciao, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== Reviewing suggested edits to Taskrabbit article ==<br />
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Hi Vaselineeeeeeee, I am looking to work with the Wikipedia community of editors to suggest objective edits to the [[TaskRabbit]] article based on 3rd party sources. I have a COI as Taskrabbit is my client, so I will not be making edits directly. I have been in touch with you previously about a different article, and I was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at my suggested edits for this article, and if you agree, help with implementing the edits. I have tried reaching out to other editors who have edited [[TaskRabbit]] in the past, but I have not heard back from them so far.<br />
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I have drafted suggestions for the Infobox as well as multiple sections of the article. Below is an outline of the suggestions, and the full text and sources for all of the suggestions can be found in my sandbox here [[User:CameronSays/sandbox]]. I also left a note about this on [[Talk:TaskRabbit]]! Thank you!<br />
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* Infobox: Updated headquarters to reflect the switch to a remote-first model, as well as the "cities served" to align with the new section on Global Expansion (see below)<br />
* Reboot: Added details around the promotion of Stacy Brown-Philpot to CEO.<br />
* Acquisition by Ikea: Removed the last sentence about global expansion and incorporated into a new and expanded section titled "Global Expansion and New Leadership"<br />
* Contractors: Updated this section with newer more accurate information<br />
* In Popular Culture: Added more examples to this section.<br />
Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend. [[User:CameronSays|CameronSays]] ([[User talk:CameronSays|talk]]) 16:50, 8 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|CameronSays}} Looks fine to me, done. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 19:13, 8 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I appreciate that! Thank you. [[User:CameronSays|CameronSays]] ([[User talk:CameronSays|talk]]) 19:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::@[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|Vaselineeeeeeee]] I hope all is well with you. Thank you for your previous assistance. Would it be possible for you to please review a few additional suggestions for the [[TaskRabbit]] article? I have added them to [[Talk:TaskRabbit]]. Thank you in advance for your consideration! [[User:CameronSays|CameronSays]] ([[User talk:CameronSays|talk]]) 04:29, 22 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
::@[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|Vaselineeeeeeee]] hello again! I have added a new suggestion to [[Talk:TaskRabbit]] regarding updating the capitalization of the article title now that the company has updated its name to "Taskrabbit" instead of "TaskRabbit." May I ask if you have any advice on this matter? I sincerely appreciate your help. Thank you! [[User:CameronSays|CameronSays]] ([[User talk:CameronSays|talk]]) 14:56, 25 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Draft:Day of Remembrance and Commitment]] ==<br />
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Hi Vaselineeeeeeee, I got your name from [[WP:WikiProject Organized crime]]. I declined this draft but now I am not so sure. I believe the subject to be notable but was uncomfortable with what appeared to be [[WP:OR]], if not [[WP:Copyvio]]. Do you mind taking a look and providing your thoughts? Thanks. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:06, 9 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:{{ping|S0091}} Hi! I think you were right to decline the draft. In addition to your concerns, it seems like an unnecessary and over detailed content form that can be condensed and integrated into [[Libera. Associazioni, nomi e numeri contro le mafie]]. Regards, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 02:06, 10 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 16:54, 10 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::{{ping|S0091}} No prob! As far as your promising draft template and comment goes, I think it could be a redirect title, but I don't think an article with this title should exist in its own right. The article linked above needs improvement and any fork from that would not be helpful in my opinion. So what should we do? '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 01:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Draft:Theatre of Italy]] ==<br />
Ciao, avrei un problema con un articolo che ho creato, "Theatre of Italy", che è stato spostato a [[Draft:Theatre of Italy]]. Potresti rileggerlo e sistemarlo così da poterlo rispostare a [[Theatre of Italy]] ? Ti segnalo anche [[User talk:LukeWiller#Theatre of Italy moved to draftspace|questo]] messaggio sulla mia talk, che però mi sembra un po' troppo severo. Fai conto poi che l'articolo è stato già rivisto da un altro utente 8 ore prima dello spostamento a "draft" (mi è arrivata la notifica). Tra l'altro l'utente che ha spostato l'articolo a "draft" ha poca esperienza, come gli hanno scritto [[Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Page mover#User:LowLevel73|qua]]. Secondo me il suo spostamento a "draft" è esagerato. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 12:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
:{{ping|LowLevel73}} LukeWiller usually procures me to clean up the grammar on his translations of it.wiki content onto en.wiki. I can clean up the essay tones and grammar with the article, but do not really help with sourcing. I do see there are quite a few sentences unsourced, however, the topic is notable so I think moving to draft space is a little excessive (a maintenance tag can be placed if need be). I don't want to do all the grammar work on the article for this still not being acceptable, so just checking in how we can get this published. Thanks, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 01:45, 11 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Ciao, mi ha risposto [[User talk:LowLevel73#Re: Theatre of Italy moved to draftspace|qua]]. Che si fa ? Si riesce a pubblicare l'articolo o non se ne parla neanche ? --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 16:36, 11 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::{{ping|LukeWiller}} I will write in English in case LowLevel sees it. Based on his comment on your talk page, it doesn't make sense for me to waste my time trying to copy edit the grammar and tone if the article cannot gain more citations, etc. Sorry man. Try asking around on project pages to enlist help if you want to try to improve that, or start cutting uncited passages that are not necessary. Regards, '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 18:05, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Don't worry, I was expecting such an answer. Thanks anyway for the help you give me. Greetings. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 18:08, 12 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
:::::I had an idea that was inspired by your previous post: I wrote to the theater project of Wikipedia in Italian ([[:it:Discussioni progetto:Teatro#Voce Teatro in Italia]]). Maybe someone fixes the original article, which has the same problems as the English Wikipedia draft, and so I could retranslate. We hope that there is someone on Wikipedia in Italian who can help me. If not, I will write to the relevant Wikiproject on Wikipedia in English. Regards, --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 19:59, 12 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
::::::{{ping|LukeWiller}} Ottima idea! Spero si risolva, fammi sapere come va! '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 20:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sì, senz'altro... :-) Tra l'altro ho dato un'occhiata a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Theatre]], ma la sua talk è poco frequentata, mentre sull'omonimo progetto di Wikipedia in italiano ogni tanto qualcuno risponde. Speriamo nel progetto di Wikipedia in italiano. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWille|LrukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 20:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
::::::::Purtroppo ancora nessuna risposta dal progetto teatro di Wikipedia in italiano. Ho però appena messo due tag all'articolo [[:it:Teatro in Italia]], magari prima o poi qualcuno sistemerà l'articolo. L'unica speranza che abbiamo è scrivere su [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Theatre]]. Ti chiedo un piacere: potresti scriverci tu ? Conosci molto meglio di me le policy e il funzionamento di Wikipedia in inglese. Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:45, 16 September 2022 (UTC).<br />
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About [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1996_UEFA_Champions_League_Final&diff=1106808191&oldid=1106759381 this], please check [[ Doping in sport#Football Clubs|this]]: same case, different narrative (also due to source errors)...--[[User:Dantetheperuvian|Dantetheperuvian]] ([[User talk:Dantetheperuvian|talk]]) 20:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Ciao, ho bisogno che mi rileggessi questo capitolo [[Sport in Italy#Motorsports]]. Un saluto. [[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 13:38, 1 October 2022 (UTC).<br />
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== Hippodrome of San Siro and Legnano Frogs ==<br />
Ciao, ho bisogno che mi rileggessi due brevi articoli nuovi che ho creato, [[Hippodrome of San Siro]] e [[Legnano Frogs]] (in quest'ultimo articolo il testo è poco, la maggior parte sono tabelle). Un saluto. --[[User:LukeWiller|LukeWiller]] ([[User talk:LukeWiller|talk]]) 14:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC).<br />
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Hello. I noticed you are an active Wikipedian with an interest in [[WP:CA| Canada]] and [[WP:CSPORT| sports]]. I would very much appreciate your help with a [[Talk:Daryl_Katz#Section_titles_and_additional_detail| pending edit request]] I posted to improve the article of Canadian hockey team owner and businessman Daryl Katz. My COI keeps me from editing the page directly, but the suggestions I am making are meant to update and improve the article, generally making it more encyclopedic. I understand that a different editor has rejected the request to include websites in the infobox; I'd value your input and assistance on the remaining items. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:31, 11 October 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaiser_matias&diff=1112874494User talk:Kaiser matias2022-09-28T15:03:30Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Assistance with Daryl Katz edits */ new section</p>
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Pages 64 to 66 of the book {{cite book|last=Young|first=Scott|author-link1=Scott Young (writer)|title=100 Years of Dropping the Puck|url=https://archive.org/details/100yearsofdroppi0000youn|url-access=registration|publisher=[[McClelland & Stewart]]|date=1989|location=Toronto, Ontario|isbn=0-7710-9093-5}} cover the interaction between Taylor and Hewitt. Do you have access to the book? [[User:Flibirigit|Flibirigit]] ([[User talk:Flibirigit|talk]]) 14:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Hewitt writes that he first noticed Taylor during the junior playoffs at the end of the 1903-04 season, and the suspension was for the 1904-05 season. More information is also available here: {{cite book|last=Hewitt|first=W. A.|title=Down the Stretch: Recollections of a Pioneer Sportsman and Journalist|publisher=[[Ryerson Press]]|date=1958|location=Toronto, Ontario|oclc=8623829}}. Cheers! [[User:Flibirigit|Flibirigit]] ([[User talk:Flibirigit|talk]]) 14:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::{{reply to|Flibirigit}} Thanks for the recommendations, I'll see if I can get hold of them. But if not feel free to add detail yourself, too. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 03:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you have access to archive.org? [https://archive.org/details/100yearsofdroppi0000youn This link] will let you see the book. [[User:Flibirigit|Flibirigit]] ([[User talk:Flibirigit|talk]]) 11:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::{{reply to|Flibirigit}} Awesome thanks, I have that now. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 16:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::If you need anything else, I have a physical copy of Young's OHA book. I'm working on an article for Hewitt. [[User:Flibirigit|Flibirigit]] ([[User talk:Flibirigit|talk]]) 16:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks, I do have access to the online copy, which is nice. I also should have a physical one available soon (the university library that holds it is closed for a few more weeks). [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 17:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::{{reply to|18abruce}} I've had some reservations about them. They seem legitimate, and from what limited searching I've done the information is correct. But it really just looks like a fan-site, and probably wouldn't pass [[WP:RS]] if challenged. Though I don't know anywhere else that has this information, not readily available at least. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 23:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)<br />
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::{{reply to|Kautilya3}} Can you clarify why this source is considered fake? From what I see the source is legitimate, and the information was correct. And as of this reply the source is still in the article, so an explanation would be appreciated. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 14:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::: The source says nothing about the content you added, which is what is meant by [[WP:FAKE]]. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 14:34, 7 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::{{reply to|Kautilya3}} My reading of this paragraph suggests otherwise: "In the complaint, it has been mentioned, 'She used abusive, false and hurtful words against the Prophet and religion of Islam and hurt the feelings of Muslims. By derisively insulting religious beliefs mentioned in the Holy Quran and stating that Prophet Mohammed married a 6-year-old and was having sex with her at age 9, she not only hurt the feelings of Muslims but also created enmity between different sections of society.'" If you think otherwise I'm happy to be corrected, as I certainly wasn't trying to add anything fake or misleading, but to get accurate information relating to the comments, which are hard to find in legitimate sources. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 15:29, 7 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::: Oh, sorry. You are right. I looked for "Aisha", which wasn't there. But, in any case, this is quoted from a complaint in the source, and so can't be put into Wikipedia voice. I have now fixed it using other sources. So, nothing more to worry. Please ignore my false alarm. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 15:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::::::{{reply to|Kautilya3}} All good, and glad to have someone watching the page like that. A difficult subject for many, so good to be cautious. [[User:Kaiser matias|Kaiser matias]] ([[User talk:Kaiser matias#top|talk]]) 18:58, 7 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Hello, Kaiser Matias. I would appreciate your review of my [[Talk:Daryl_Katz#Section_titles_and_additional_detail| pending edit request]] to improve the article of Canadian hockey team owner and businessman Daryl Katz. My COI keeps me from editing directly, but I did notice your active participation in [[WP:HOCKEY]] and your interest in all things Canada. My suggestions are designed to improve and update the article and bring it in line with encyclopedic standards. Thank you for your time and assistance. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daryl_Katz&diff=1111558276Talk:Daryl Katz2022-09-21T16:33:35Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Section titles and additional detail */ new section</p>
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"Katz has hired a team of architects, engineers, consultants, and promoters to visualize a plan for a new arena for the Oilers, which he hopes the city will build. Through a subsidiary of Katz Group, presently derelict lands in downtown Edmonton have been purchased. Katz envisions a sports district. He has proposed to spearhead private development of condos, hotels, and entertainment venues in this area - if the city builds the arena. Controversy over the level of government funding, if any, that should be put in to the arena project is ongoing in Edmonton." THIS SHOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER PHILATROPHY <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.38.59.161|208.38.59.161]] ([[User talk:208.38.59.161|talk]]) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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Should I crop the image a little closer so it shows him better in the info box? Good score on flickr btw.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 20:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pronounciation ==<br />
According to [http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/10/01/spf-nhl-five-question-edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz.html this ref] His name is pronounced ''Kate's''. Does anyone know the phonetic mark-up for it and should we add it?--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 22:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Has anyone heard how Mr. Katz wishes to be pronounced? That should be considered the right way. Otherwise I'd say it's "cuts" (Katze is 'cat' in German, in many German/Austrian dialects it is shortened to "Katz", which is also a not uncommon last name).[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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This applies to the content removed in my edit. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 14:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::The man founds the largest pharmacy in Canada but then you remove the fact that his father founded a pharmacy (I guess not relevant). His wife is the daughter of a wealthy industrialist (who has his own wiki article) but then that gets removed. The source that names who his wife is is removed (I guess the wife's name is relevant but not his parents names) but then the name of his wife is left in the article (now unsourced) perhaps to be removed later as such. Then I go to your history and see that you recently edited an article for comedian [[Ross Shafer]] on May 16, 2013 but then leave the fact that he has "Sons: Adam, Ryan (from previous marriage); Daughter: Lauren (adopted with current wife Leah)" in the article which apparently are "encyclopedic". So why the apparent focus on Katz? <br />
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::Anyhow, standard policy is to include names of parents and children. There are 1000s of biographical articles with this basic information that are constantly being reviewed by administrators and this information is being left in. Anyhow you left out "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." There is nothing that says that it cannot be included and given the 1000s of articles that do include the names of parents, spouses, and children, the vast majority of administrators do not read BLPNAME as such.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::It does not say it "cannot be included". Rather it says, as quoted above, "the presumption of privacy is strong". I removed some personal information about family members on request per {{OTRS ticket|6976805|2013051410014014}}. The names of his parents and children do not help provide a "complete understanding of the subject". I have since readded the note about his father, but not the name, and included the citation to his wife's name. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 02:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I added back info on who Katz's wife's father as she is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Canada. I do not have access to the OTRS ticket which I would assume is publically accessible or else you would not send me a link. How do I get access? It would be a nice tool to have.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::::It isn't public. Please see [[WP:OTRS]] and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Actions_tagged_as_CheckUser.2C_Oversight.2C_OTRS_or_Arbitration_Committee|information on actions tagged as per OTRS]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 15:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Since when is jewish an ethnicity? It is a religion! People from any ethnicity can be from any religion. Jews from Aethiopia are most definitely a different ethnicity than Jews from central Europe. Religion can be changed, ethnicity cannot. --[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Withdrawal of Allegations ==<br />
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Hi. I work for Daryl Katz. There have been recent developments relating to the July 2022 allegations against Mr. Katz by the Buttons. Given that the accusers (who themselves still stand accused of sex crimes against minors) have voluntarily withdrawn the allegations, as documented by [https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ this article in Global News] and [https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/ this article in Sports Net], the paragraph should now be deleted from the article based on [[WP:UNDUE]]. No attention should be given to unfounded and now completely retracted allegations made by accused sex criminals. <br />
Thank you for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 19:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> I don't think this warrants outright removal, but I did add the dismissal. [[User:PK650|PK650]] ([[User talk:PK650|talk]]) 01:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hello {{u|PK650}}, thanks for adding the retraction to the article. I realize that information covered by the press is often worthy of inclusion regardless of outcome, but in this case, the counterclaims were filed and retracted in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant to include in the article, it may now be less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Looking forward to your thoughts on this, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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'''I'd like to ask that the paragraph regarding ballet dancer Sage Humphries (Personal life section) be removed from the article.''' The counter-claims were filed and voluntarily retracted due to evidence they were false in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant for inclusion, it now seems less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. <br />
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'''In July 2022, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid teenage ballet dancer [[Sage Humphries]] $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> The counterclaim arose as part of a sexual abuse lawsuit which Humphries and six other aspiring ballerinas filed against a prominent ballerina and her husband in 2021.<ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Less than a month later, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims about Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary,<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> and their lawyer apologized and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The paragraph is appropriate and relevant. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 05:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegations dismissed / Neutral language ==<br />
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I accept Quetstar's assertion that the inclusion of this information is relevant. To advance neutrality and accuracy, I am asking that the paragraph be modified as per the following: <br />
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'''In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> <ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> Less than a month later, in August 2022, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref>; their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The tone of the proposed paragraph is non-[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If DJ ''is'' a personal fan of Darryl Katz or has something to do with the Oilers owner. This would fall into COI territory. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
* On the contrary, I find this revised, well-sourced paragraph quite neutral, and plan on posting it myself with a tweak or two. Given that the claimants not only redacted their own pleading, admitted it was erroneous AND apologized fully for the accusation, the prior wording in the article is a great deal more lurid than justified by the genuine facts. This is, after all, a BLP. I am at somewhat of a loss in figuring out what [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] finds non-NPOV about it, and perhaps he should gain more experience on Wikipedia before jumping in to such an explosive, high-profile case.<p>Speaking to the COI, it is no violation if the editor doesn't edit the article, but instead raises issues here. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Additions and changes to Personal life section ==<br />
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{{Request edit|A}}<br />
I'd like to modify some of the details in this article, primarily to the Personal life section. These changes will add some detail and remove irrelevant personal information as per [[WP:BLPPRIVACY| Wikipeidia's policies]]. These are my requests:<br />
*Removal of all the information about the parents of Daryl Katz's wife (second sentence of the second paragraph); adding a sentence about the couple's children: <br />
::'''The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Removal of the Katz's exact address and excessive detail about the home from the third paragraph; suggested text:<br />
::'''Katz lives in the [[Parkview, Edmonton|Parkview neighbourhood]] of Edmonton in a {{convert|25000|sqft|m2}} riverfront residence, estimated to be worth C$13 million.<ref>{{cite news|author=Gordon Kent |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/business/real-estate/property-values-on-the-rise-in-edmonton |title=Top homes worth a bundle in Edmonton millionaire's market |newspaper=[[Edmonton Journal]] |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref>'''<br />
*Clarification of the details about Katz's health in the last paragraph of that section; suggested text:<br />
::'''It was reported in May 2019 and confirmed by the Oilers Entertainment Group that Katz had been dealing with a life-threatening sinus infection. They also confirmed that Katz had undergone three surgeries in a span of ten months.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-illness-1.5126650|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness, team says}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-sinus-infection-1.5131497|title=Oiler owner's life-threatening sinus infection part of rise in antibiotic resistance, expert says|date=10 May 2022|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref> In September 2019, he provided an update on his medical condition stating, "Clearly, it’s been a battle,...I am relieved to tell you the worst is behind me and I'm going to be just fine.”<ref>{{Cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz provides health update and expectations of team - Edmonton {{!}} Globalnews.ca|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/5909327/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-health-team/|access-date=2021-08-30|website=630CHED|language=en-US}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC) <br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I've removed some of the excess detail, and made that simple insert about the children. I agree that including Katz's address is out of bounds, so I've just stricken that paragraph entirely: yes, yes, we get that very rich people live in swanky homes, but this isn't People Magazine. Nor is that he had a bad sinus infection a particularly encyclopedic element, and I struck that entirely. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you so much for this prompt and comprehensive review of my request. These changes improve the article's encyclopedic value and I appreciate your help. There are some additional modifications I'd like to make to other parts of the article; I am working through these and will post an additional edit request in the future. Thank you again. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Section titles and additional detail ==<br />
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I appreciate the thoughtful review of my previous edit requests and the implementation of the changes that have made this article more encyclopedic and accurate. I'd like to request the following changes:<br />
*Inclusion of two websites in the infobox - https://www.katzgroup.ca/about-us/our-people/daryl-katz and https://www.oeg.ca/about-us/our-people/daryl-katz<br />
*Renaming of the Pharmacy business section to be Pharmacy career, and the inclusion of the value of the sale (as mentioned in the last sentence of the last paragraph in the section); suggested language: <br />
::'''Katz Group sold its network of approximately 460 corporate-owned 450 Rexall-branded outlets to McKesson Corporation in 2016 for C$3 billion.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Tracer|first=Zachary|title=McKesson Buys Canada's Rexall Drugstores for $2.23 Billion|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-02/mckesson-to-buy-pharmacy-chain-rexall-health-for-2-2-billion|date=2 March 2016|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Renaming of third section to be Sports and entertainment career with a subsection for Purchase of Edmonton Oilers and Creation of Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG)<br />
*Inclusion of additional details in this section:<br />
**Worth of OEG; suggested language:<br />
::'''In 2021, OEG was valued by Sportico at $2 billion, including the Oilers team and its related businesses.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Badenhausen|first=Kurt|title=Toronto Maple Leafs Head Sportico's 2021 NHL Valuations at $2 billion|url=https://www.sportico.com/valuations/teams/2021/toronto-maple-leafs-nhl-most-valuable-team-1234644034/|date=14 October 2021|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''</br><br />
:*The dissolution of the partnership with Joel Silver; suggested language:<br />
::'''The partnership was dissolved in 2019 and Silver Pictures carried on under Hal Sadoff.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Ewing|first=Jeff|title=Silver Pictures Now Moving Forward without Founder Joel Silver|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffewing/2019/06/25/silver-pictures-now-moving-forward-without-founder-joel-silver/?sh=3e89bfcb1b76|date=25 June 2019|access-date=19 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Inclusion of additional detail to the Philanthropy section; suggested revision of last sentence:<br />
::'''Between 2005 and 2010, Katz and his wife have donated "over $50 million" to organizations and institutions across Canada, including a 2010 donation of $500,000 to the Art Gallery of Alberta, renaming the gallery in memory of his wife's mother.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |title=Katz, wife donate $500,000 to AGA |website=www.canada.com |access-date=15 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor= |archive-date=10 November 2012 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://edmontonjournal.com/travel/Daryl+Renee+Katz+donate+Gallery+Alberta/2491478/story.html |title=Daryl and Renee Katz donate $500,000 to Art Gallery of Alberta |website=Edmontonjournal.com |date=2010-01-27 |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title=Katz, wife donate $500,00 to AGA|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110160305/http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a34af8e9-099d-4175-8c35-d81d4364b32f&sponsor=|date=28 January 2010|access-date=19 September 2022|publisher=Edmonton Journal}}</ref>'''<br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 16:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daryl_Katz&diff=1110456189Talk:Daryl Katz2022-09-15T15:31:25Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Additions and changes to Personal life section */</p>
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==New Arena==<br />
"Katz has hired a team of architects, engineers, consultants, and promoters to visualize a plan for a new arena for the Oilers, which he hopes the city will build. Through a subsidiary of Katz Group, presently derelict lands in downtown Edmonton have been purchased. Katz envisions a sports district. He has proposed to spearhead private development of condos, hotels, and entertainment venues in this area - if the city builds the arena. Controversy over the level of government funding, if any, that should be put in to the arena project is ongoing in Edmonton." THIS SHOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER PHILATROPHY <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.38.59.161|208.38.59.161]] ([[User talk:208.38.59.161|talk]]) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Image ==<br />
Should I crop the image a little closer so it shows him better in the info box? Good score on flickr btw.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 20:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pronounciation ==<br />
According to [http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/10/01/spf-nhl-five-question-edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz.html this ref] His name is pronounced ''Kate's''. Does anyone know the phonetic mark-up for it and should we add it?--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 22:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Has anyone heard how Mr. Katz wishes to be pronounced? That should be considered the right way. Otherwise I'd say it's "cuts" (Katze is 'cat' in German, in many German/Austrian dialects it is shortened to "Katz", which is also a not uncommon last name).[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:BLPNAME]] ==<br />
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[[WP:BLPNAME|Privacy of names]] reads:<br />
:Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons.<br />
This applies to the content removed in my edit. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 14:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::The man founds the largest pharmacy in Canada but then you remove the fact that his father founded a pharmacy (I guess not relevant). His wife is the daughter of a wealthy industrialist (who has his own wiki article) but then that gets removed. The source that names who his wife is is removed (I guess the wife's name is relevant but not his parents names) but then the name of his wife is left in the article (now unsourced) perhaps to be removed later as such. Then I go to your history and see that you recently edited an article for comedian [[Ross Shafer]] on May 16, 2013 but then leave the fact that he has "Sons: Adam, Ryan (from previous marriage); Daughter: Lauren (adopted with current wife Leah)" in the article which apparently are "encyclopedic". So why the apparent focus on Katz? <br />
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::Anyhow, standard policy is to include names of parents and children. There are 1000s of biographical articles with this basic information that are constantly being reviewed by administrators and this information is being left in. Anyhow you left out "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." There is nothing that says that it cannot be included and given the 1000s of articles that do include the names of parents, spouses, and children, the vast majority of administrators do not read BLPNAME as such.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::It does not say it "cannot be included". Rather it says, as quoted above, "the presumption of privacy is strong". I removed some personal information about family members on request per {{OTRS ticket|6976805|2013051410014014}}. The names of his parents and children do not help provide a "complete understanding of the subject". I have since readded the note about his father, but not the name, and included the citation to his wife's name. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 02:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I added back info on who Katz's wife's father as she is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Canada. I do not have access to the OTRS ticket which I would assume is publically accessible or else you would not send me a link. How do I get access? It would be a nice tool to have.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::::It isn't public. Please see [[WP:OTRS]] and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Actions_tagged_as_CheckUser.2C_Oversight.2C_OTRS_or_Arbitration_Committee|information on actions tagged as per OTRS]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 15:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "ethnicity" ==<br />
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Since when is jewish an ethnicity? It is a religion! People from any ethnicity can be from any religion. Jews from Aethiopia are most definitely a different ethnicity than Jews from central Europe. Religion can be changed, ethnicity cannot. --[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Withdrawal of Allegations ==<br />
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{{Request edit|P}}<br />
Hi. I work for Daryl Katz. There have been recent developments relating to the July 2022 allegations against Mr. Katz by the Buttons. Given that the accusers (who themselves still stand accused of sex crimes against minors) have voluntarily withdrawn the allegations, as documented by [https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ this article in Global News] and [https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/ this article in Sports Net], the paragraph should now be deleted from the article based on [[WP:UNDUE]]. No attention should be given to unfounded and now completely retracted allegations made by accused sex criminals. <br />
Thank you for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 19:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> I don't think this warrants outright removal, but I did add the dismissal. [[User:PK650|PK650]] ([[User talk:PK650|talk]]) 01:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hello {{u|PK650}}, thanks for adding the retraction to the article. I realize that information covered by the press is often worthy of inclusion regardless of outcome, but in this case, the counterclaims were filed and retracted in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant to include in the article, it may now be less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Looking forward to your thoughts on this, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegation update ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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'''I'd like to ask that the paragraph regarding ballet dancer Sage Humphries (Personal life section) be removed from the article.''' The counter-claims were filed and voluntarily retracted due to evidence they were false in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant for inclusion, it now seems less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. <br />
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If the community feels that the allegations must be included despite the above, I propose the following update to the text for improved accuracy, clarity and neutrality: <br />
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'''In July 2022, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid teenage ballet dancer [[Sage Humphries]] $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> The counterclaim arose as part of a sexual abuse lawsuit which Humphries and six other aspiring ballerinas filed against a prominent ballerina and her husband in 2021.<ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Less than a month later, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims about Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary,<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> and their lawyer apologized and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The paragraph is appropriate and relevant. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 05:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegations dismissed / Neutral language ==<br />
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I accept Quetstar's assertion that the inclusion of this information is relevant. To advance neutrality and accuracy, I am asking that the paragraph be modified as per the following: <br />
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'''In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> <ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> Less than a month later, in August 2022, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref>; their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The tone of the proposed paragraph is non-[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If DJ ''is'' a personal fan of Darryl Katz or has something to do with the Oilers owner. This would fall into COI territory. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
* On the contrary, I find this revised, well-sourced paragraph quite neutral, and plan on posting it myself with a tweak or two. Given that the claimants not only redacted their own pleading, admitted it was erroneous AND apologized fully for the accusation, the prior wording in the article is a great deal more lurid than justified by the genuine facts. This is, after all, a BLP. I am at somewhat of a loss in figuring out what [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] finds non-NPOV about it, and perhaps he should gain more experience on Wikipedia before jumping in to such an explosive, high-profile case.<p>Speaking to the COI, it is no violation if the editor doesn't edit the article, but instead raises issues here. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Additions and changes to Personal life section ==<br />
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{{Request edit|A}}<br />
I'd like to modify some of the details in this article, primarily to the Personal life section. These changes will add some detail and remove irrelevant personal information as per [[WP:BLPPRIVACY| Wikipeidia's policies]]. These are my requests:<br />
*Removal of all the information about the parents of Daryl Katz's wife (second sentence of the second paragraph); adding a sentence about the couple's children: <br />
::'''The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Removal of the Katz's exact address and excessive detail about the home from the third paragraph; suggested text:<br />
::'''Katz lives in the [[Parkview, Edmonton|Parkview neighbourhood]] of Edmonton in a {{convert|25000|sqft|m2}} riverfront residence, estimated to be worth C$13 million.<ref>{{cite news|author=Gordon Kent |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/business/real-estate/property-values-on-the-rise-in-edmonton |title=Top homes worth a bundle in Edmonton millionaire's market |newspaper=[[Edmonton Journal]] |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref>'''<br />
*Clarification of the details about Katz's health in the last paragraph of that section; suggested text:<br />
::'''It was reported in May 2019 and confirmed by the Oilers Entertainment Group that Katz had been dealing with a life-threatening sinus infection. They also confirmed that Katz had undergone three surgeries in a span of ten months.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-illness-1.5126650|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness, team says}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-sinus-infection-1.5131497|title=Oiler owner's life-threatening sinus infection part of rise in antibiotic resistance, expert says|date=10 May 2022|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref> In September 2019, he provided an update on his medical condition stating, "Clearly, it’s been a battle,...I am relieved to tell you the worst is behind me and I'm going to be just fine.”<ref>{{Cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz provides health update and expectations of team - Edmonton {{!}} Globalnews.ca|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/5909327/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-health-team/|access-date=2021-08-30|website=630CHED|language=en-US}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC) <br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I've removed some of the excess detail, and made that simple insert about the children. I agree that including Katz's address is out of bounds, so I've just stricken that paragraph entirely: yes, yes, we get that very rich people live in swanky homes, but this isn't People Magazine. Nor is that he had a bad sinus infection a particularly encyclopedic element, and I struck that entirely. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you so much for this prompt and comprehensive review of my request. These changes improve the article's encyclopedic value and I appreciate your help. There are some additional modifications I'd like to make to other parts of the article; I am working through these and will post an additional edit request in the future. Thank you again. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daryl_Katz&diff=1110286594Talk:Daryl Katz2022-09-14T16:37:11Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Additions and changes to Personal life section */</p>
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==New Arena==<br />
"Katz has hired a team of architects, engineers, consultants, and promoters to visualize a plan for a new arena for the Oilers, which he hopes the city will build. Through a subsidiary of Katz Group, presently derelict lands in downtown Edmonton have been purchased. Katz envisions a sports district. He has proposed to spearhead private development of condos, hotels, and entertainment venues in this area - if the city builds the arena. Controversy over the level of government funding, if any, that should be put in to the arena project is ongoing in Edmonton." THIS SHOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER PHILATROPHY <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.38.59.161|208.38.59.161]] ([[User talk:208.38.59.161|talk]]) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Image ==<br />
Should I crop the image a little closer so it shows him better in the info box? Good score on flickr btw.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 20:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pronounciation ==<br />
According to [http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/10/01/spf-nhl-five-question-edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz.html this ref] His name is pronounced ''Kate's''. Does anyone know the phonetic mark-up for it and should we add it?--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 22:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Has anyone heard how Mr. Katz wishes to be pronounced? That should be considered the right way. Otherwise I'd say it's "cuts" (Katze is 'cat' in German, in many German/Austrian dialects it is shortened to "Katz", which is also a not uncommon last name).[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:BLPNAME]] ==<br />
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[[WP:BLPNAME|Privacy of names]] reads:<br />
:Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons.<br />
This applies to the content removed in my edit. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 14:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::The man founds the largest pharmacy in Canada but then you remove the fact that his father founded a pharmacy (I guess not relevant). His wife is the daughter of a wealthy industrialist (who has his own wiki article) but then that gets removed. The source that names who his wife is is removed (I guess the wife's name is relevant but not his parents names) but then the name of his wife is left in the article (now unsourced) perhaps to be removed later as such. Then I go to your history and see that you recently edited an article for comedian [[Ross Shafer]] on May 16, 2013 but then leave the fact that he has "Sons: Adam, Ryan (from previous marriage); Daughter: Lauren (adopted with current wife Leah)" in the article which apparently are "encyclopedic". So why the apparent focus on Katz? <br />
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::Anyhow, standard policy is to include names of parents and children. There are 1000s of biographical articles with this basic information that are constantly being reviewed by administrators and this information is being left in. Anyhow you left out "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." There is nothing that says that it cannot be included and given the 1000s of articles that do include the names of parents, spouses, and children, the vast majority of administrators do not read BLPNAME as such.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::It does not say it "cannot be included". Rather it says, as quoted above, "the presumption of privacy is strong". I removed some personal information about family members on request per {{OTRS ticket|6976805|2013051410014014}}. The names of his parents and children do not help provide a "complete understanding of the subject". I have since readded the note about his father, but not the name, and included the citation to his wife's name. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 02:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I added back info on who Katz's wife's father as she is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Canada. I do not have access to the OTRS ticket which I would assume is publically accessible or else you would not send me a link. How do I get access? It would be a nice tool to have.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::::It isn't public. Please see [[WP:OTRS]] and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Actions_tagged_as_CheckUser.2C_Oversight.2C_OTRS_or_Arbitration_Committee|information on actions tagged as per OTRS]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 15:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "ethnicity" ==<br />
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Since when is jewish an ethnicity? It is a religion! People from any ethnicity can be from any religion. Jews from Aethiopia are most definitely a different ethnicity than Jews from central Europe. Religion can be changed, ethnicity cannot. --[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:'''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 06:11, 23 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Withdrawal of Allegations ==<br />
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Hi. I work for Daryl Katz. There have been recent developments relating to the July 2022 allegations against Mr. Katz by the Buttons. Given that the accusers (who themselves still stand accused of sex crimes against minors) have voluntarily withdrawn the allegations, as documented by [https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ this article in Global News] and [https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/ this article in Sports Net], the paragraph should now be deleted from the article based on [[WP:UNDUE]]. No attention should be given to unfounded and now completely retracted allegations made by accused sex criminals. <br />
Thank you for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 19:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> I don't think this warrants outright removal, but I did add the dismissal. [[User:PK650|PK650]] ([[User talk:PK650|talk]]) 01:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hello {{u|PK650}}, thanks for adding the retraction to the article. I realize that information covered by the press is often worthy of inclusion regardless of outcome, but in this case, the counterclaims were filed and retracted in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant to include in the article, it may now be less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Looking forward to your thoughts on this, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegation update ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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'''I'd like to ask that the paragraph regarding ballet dancer Sage Humphries (Personal life section) be removed from the article.''' The counter-claims were filed and voluntarily retracted due to evidence they were false in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant for inclusion, it now seems less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. <br />
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If the community feels that the allegations must be included despite the above, I propose the following update to the text for improved accuracy, clarity and neutrality: <br />
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'''In July 2022, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid teenage ballet dancer [[Sage Humphries]] $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> The counterclaim arose as part of a sexual abuse lawsuit which Humphries and six other aspiring ballerinas filed against a prominent ballerina and her husband in 2021.<ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Less than a month later, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims about Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary,<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> and their lawyer apologized and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The paragraph is appropriate and relevant. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 05:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegations dismissed / Neutral language ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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I accept Quetstar's assertion that the inclusion of this information is relevant. To advance neutrality and accuracy, I am asking that the paragraph be modified as per the following: <br />
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'''In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> <ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> Less than a month later, in August 2022, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref>; their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The tone of the proposed paragraph is non-[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If DJ ''is'' a personal fan of Darryl Katz or has something to do with the Oilers owner. This would fall into COI territory. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
* On the contrary, I find this revised, well-sourced paragraph quite neutral, and plan on posting it myself with a tweak or two. Given that the claimants not only redacted their own pleading, admitted it was erroneous AND apologized fully for the accusation, the prior wording in the article is a great deal more lurid than justified by the genuine facts. This is, after all, a BLP. I am at somewhat of a loss in figuring out what [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] finds non-NPOV about it, and perhaps he should gain more experience on Wikipedia before jumping in to such an explosive, high-profile case.<p>Speaking to the COI, it is no violation if the editor doesn't edit the article, but instead raises issues here. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Additions and changes to Personal life section ==<br />
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{{request edit}}<br />
I'd like to modify some of the details in this article, primarily to the Personal life section. These changes will add some detail and remove irrelevant personal information as per [[WP:BLPPRIVACY| Wikipeidia's policies]]. These are my requests:<br />
*Removal of all the information about the parents of Daryl Katz's wife (second sentence of the second paragraph); adding a sentence about the couple's children: <br />
::'''The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Removal of the Katz's exact address and excessive detail about the home from the third paragraph; suggested text:<br />
::'''Katz lives in the [[Parkview, Edmonton|Parkview neighbourhood]] of Edmonton in a {{convert|25000|sqft|m2}} riverfront residence, estimated to be worth C$13 million.<ref>{{cite news|author=Gordon Kent |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/business/real-estate/property-values-on-the-rise-in-edmonton |title=Top homes worth a bundle in Edmonton millionaire's market |newspaper=[[Edmonton Journal]] |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref>'''<br />
*Clarification of the details about Katz's health in the last paragraph of that section; suggested text:<br />
::'''It was reported in May 2019 and confirmed by the Oilers Entertainment Group that Katz had been dealing with a life-threatening sinus infection. They also confirmed that Katz had undergone three surgeries in a span of ten months.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-illness-1.5126650|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness, team says}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-sinus-infection-1.5131497|title=Oiler owner's life-threatening sinus infection part of rise in antibiotic resistance, expert says|date=10 May 2022|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref> In September 2019, he provided an update on his medical condition stating, "Clearly, it’s been a battle,...I am relieved to tell you the worst is behind me and I'm going to be just fine.”<ref>{{Cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz provides health update and expectations of team - Edmonton {{!}} Globalnews.ca|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/5909327/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-health-team/|access-date=2021-08-30|website=630CHED|language=en-US}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC) <br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Daryl_Katz&diff=1110270990Talk:Daryl Katz2022-09-14T15:05:12Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Additions and changes to Personal life section */ new section</p>
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==New Arena==<br />
"Katz has hired a team of architects, engineers, consultants, and promoters to visualize a plan for a new arena for the Oilers, which he hopes the city will build. Through a subsidiary of Katz Group, presently derelict lands in downtown Edmonton have been purchased. Katz envisions a sports district. He has proposed to spearhead private development of condos, hotels, and entertainment venues in this area - if the city builds the arena. Controversy over the level of government funding, if any, that should be put in to the arena project is ongoing in Edmonton." THIS SHOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER PHILATROPHY <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.38.59.161|208.38.59.161]] ([[User talk:208.38.59.161|talk]]) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Image ==<br />
Should I crop the image a little closer so it shows him better in the info box? Good score on flickr btw.--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 20:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pronounciation ==<br />
According to [http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2012/10/01/spf-nhl-five-question-edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz.html this ref] His name is pronounced ''Kate's''. Does anyone know the phonetic mark-up for it and should we add it?--[[User:Canoe1967|Canoe1967]] ([[User talk:Canoe1967|talk]]) 22:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Has anyone heard how Mr. Katz wishes to be pronounced? That should be considered the right way. Otherwise I'd say it's "cuts" (Katze is 'cat' in German, in many German/Austrian dialects it is shortened to "Katz", which is also a not uncommon last name).[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[WP:BLPNAME]] ==<br />
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[[WP:BLPNAME|Privacy of names]] reads:<br />
:Consider whether the inclusion of names of living private individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons.<br />
This applies to the content removed in my edit. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 14:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::The man founds the largest pharmacy in Canada but then you remove the fact that his father founded a pharmacy (I guess not relevant). His wife is the daughter of a wealthy industrialist (who has his own wiki article) but then that gets removed. The source that names who his wife is is removed (I guess the wife's name is relevant but not his parents names) but then the name of his wife is left in the article (now unsourced) perhaps to be removed later as such. Then I go to your history and see that you recently edited an article for comedian [[Ross Shafer]] on May 16, 2013 but then leave the fact that he has "Sons: Adam, Ryan (from previous marriage); Daughter: Lauren (adopted with current wife Leah)" in the article which apparently are "encyclopedic". So why the apparent focus on Katz? <br />
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::Anyhow, standard policy is to include names of parents and children. There are 1000s of biographical articles with this basic information that are constantly being reviewed by administrators and this information is being left in. Anyhow you left out "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." There is nothing that says that it cannot be included and given the 1000s of articles that do include the names of parents, spouses, and children, the vast majority of administrators do not read BLPNAME as such.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::It does not say it "cannot be included". Rather it says, as quoted above, "the presumption of privacy is strong". I removed some personal information about family members on request per {{OTRS ticket|6976805|2013051410014014}}. The names of his parents and children do not help provide a "complete understanding of the subject". I have since readded the note about his father, but not the name, and included the citation to his wife's name. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 02:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. I added back info on who Katz's wife's father as she is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Canada. I do not have access to the OTRS ticket which I would assume is publically accessible or else you would not send me a link. How do I get access? It would be a nice tool to have.[[User:Patapsco913|Patapsco913]] ([[User talk:Patapsco913|talk]])<br />
:::::It isn't public. Please see [[WP:OTRS]] and [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Actions_tagged_as_CheckUser.2C_Oversight.2C_OTRS_or_Arbitration_Committee|information on actions tagged as per OTRS]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 15:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "ethnicity" ==<br />
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Since when is jewish an ethnicity? It is a religion! People from any ethnicity can be from any religion. Jews from Aethiopia are most definitely a different ethnicity than Jews from central Europe. Religion can be changed, ethnicity cannot. --[[Special:Contributions/178.2.28.28|178.2.28.28]] ([[User talk:178.2.28.28|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Withdrawal of Allegations ==<br />
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Hi. I work for Daryl Katz. There have been recent developments relating to the July 2022 allegations against Mr. Katz by the Buttons. Given that the accusers (who themselves still stand accused of sex crimes against minors) have voluntarily withdrawn the allegations, as documented by [https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ this article in Global News] and [https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/ this article in Sports Net], the paragraph should now be deleted from the article based on [[WP:UNDUE]]. No attention should be given to unfounded and now completely retracted allegations made by accused sex criminals. <br />
Thank you for your help, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 19:14, 11 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> I don't think this warrants outright removal, but I did add the dismissal. [[User:PK650|PK650]] ([[User talk:PK650|talk]]) 01:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Hello {{u|PK650}}, thanks for adding the retraction to the article. I realize that information covered by the press is often worthy of inclusion regardless of outcome, but in this case, the counterclaims were filed and retracted in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant to include in the article, it may now be less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Looking forward to your thoughts on this, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegation update ==<br />
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Hi.<br />
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'''I'd like to ask that the paragraph regarding ballet dancer Sage Humphries (Personal life section) be removed from the article.''' The counter-claims were filed and voluntarily retracted due to evidence they were false in less than three weeks, so while it initially seemed relevant for inclusion, it now seems less appropriate according to [[WP:BALASP]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. <br />
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If the community feels that the allegations must be included despite the above, I propose the following update to the text for improved accuracy, clarity and neutrality: <br />
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'''In July 2022, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid teenage ballet dancer [[Sage Humphries]] $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> The counterclaim arose as part of a sexual abuse lawsuit which Humphries and six other aspiring ballerinas filed against a prominent ballerina and her husband in 2021.<ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Less than a month later, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims about Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary,<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref> and their lawyer apologized and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you, [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 17:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The paragraph is appropriate and relevant. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 05:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Allegations dismissed / Neutral language ==<br />
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I accept Quetstar's assertion that the inclusion of this information is relevant. To advance neutrality and accuracy, I am asking that the paragraph be modified as per the following: <br />
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'''In July 2022, [[Boston Ballet]] ballerina [[Dusty Button]] and her husband, defendants in a U.S. civil suit filed by [[Sage Humphries]] and six other ballerinas accusing the Buttons of sexual abuse, filed a counterclaim alleging that Katz paid Humpheries $75,000 in exchange for sexual favors.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-20 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref> <ref name=":5">{{Cite news |last=Jacobs |first=Julia |date=2021-07-29 |title=Former Dance Instructor Accused of Sexual Assault in Lawsuit |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/arts/dance/mitchell-button-dusty-button-abuse.html |access-date=2021-12-20 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> Humphries denied having had any sexual relationship with Katz.<ref name=":8">{{Cite web |last=Gatehouse |first=Jonathon |last2=Leung |first2=Albert |date=2022-07-21 |title=Civil suit accuses Edmonton Oilers owner of paying teenage ballerina for sex |url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941 |access-date=2022-07-22 |website=CBC News}}</ref><ref name=":7">{{Cite web |last=Wakefield |first=Jonny |date=2022-07-21 |title=Billionaire Oilers owner Daryl Katz, ballet dancer deny he paid her for sex |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/oilers-owner-daryl-katz-and-ballet-dancer-both-deny-allegations-they-had-sexual-relationship |access-date=2022-07-23 |website=Toronto Sun |language=en-CA}}</ref> Less than a month later, in August 2022, the the couple voluntarily withdrew their claims against Katz after being provided with reliable evidence to the contrary<ref>{{cite web |last1=Heidenreich |first1=Phil |title=Allegations involving Edmonton Oilers owner and ballerina withdrawn |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/9046308/daryl-katz-allegations-withdrawn/ |website=Global News Canada |access-date=15 August 2022}}</ref>; their lawyer issued an apology and requested that the court strike all relevant references from the record.<ref>{{cite news|title=Claims against Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz withdrawn|url=https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/claims-against-edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-withdrawn/|date=August 8, 2022|website=Sportsnet}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> The tone of the proposed paragraph is non-[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Denied. [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] ([[User talk:Quetstar|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:If DJ ''is'' a personal fan of Darryl Katz or has something to do with the Oilers owner. This would fall into COI territory. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
* On the contrary, I find this revised, well-sourced paragraph quite neutral, and plan on posting it myself with a tweak or two. Given that the claimants not only redacted their own pleading, admitted it was erroneous AND apologized fully for the accusation, the prior wording in the article is a great deal more lurid than justified by the genuine facts. This is, after all, a BLP. I am at somewhat of a loss in figuring out what [[User:Quetstar|Quetstar]] finds non-NPOV about it, and perhaps he should gain more experience on Wikipedia before jumping in to such an explosive, high-profile case.<p>Speaking to the COI, it is no violation if the editor doesn't edit the article, but instead raises issues here. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Additions and changes to Personal life section ==<br />
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I'd like to modify some of the details in this article, primarily to the Personal life section. These changes will add some detail and remove irrelevant personal information as per [[WP:BLPPRIVACY| Wikipeidia's policies]]. These are my requests:<br />
*Removal of all the information about the parents of Daryl Katz's wife (second sentence of the second paragraph); adding a sentence about the couple's children: <br />
::'''The couple have twin children, Chloe and Harrison, who are the founders of the nonprofit Hockey Helps Kids organization.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Tait|first=Cam|title=Katz kids helping kids|url=https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/katz-kids-helping-kids/c-287737530|date=15 March 2017|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref>'''<br />
*Removal of the Katz's exact address and excessive detail about the home from the third paragraph; suggested text:<br />
::'''Katz lives in the [[Parkview, Edmonton|Parkview neighbourhood]] of Edmonton in a {{convert|25000|sqft|m2}} riverfront residence, estimated to be worth C$13 million.<ref>{{cite news|author=Gordon Kent |url=https://edmontonjournal.com/business/real-estate/property-values-on-the-rise-in-edmonton |title=Top homes worth a bundle in Edmonton millionaire's market |newspaper=[[Edmonton Journal]] |access-date=2017-01-29}}</ref>'''<br />
*Clarification of the details about Katz's health in the last paragraph of that section; suggested text:<br />
::'''It was reported in May 2019 and confirmed by the Oilers Entertainment Group that Katz had been dealing with a life-threatening sinus infection. They also confirmed that Katz had undergone three surgeries in a span of ten months.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-illness-1.5126650|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz dealing with life-threatening illness, team says}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-sinus-infection-1.5131497|title=Oiler owner's life-threatening sinus infection part of rise in antibiotic resistance, expert says|date=10 May 2022|access-date=14 September 2022}}</ref> In September 2019, he provided an update on his medical condition stating, "Clearly, it’s been a battle,...I am relieved to tell you the worst is behind me and I'm going to be just fine.”<ref>{{Cite web|title=Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz provides health update and expectations of team - Edmonton {{!}} Globalnews.ca|url=https://globalnews.ca/news/5909327/edmonton-oilers-daryl-katz-health-team/|access-date=2021-08-30|website=630CHED|language=en-US}}</ref>'''<br />
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Thank you for your consideration of this request. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC) <br />
{{reflist talk}} [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:05, 14 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ravenswing&diff=1109205668User talk:Ravenswing2022-09-08T15:31:52Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Requesting your help: COI edits on Daryl Katz */</p>
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== Centuries? ==<br />
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Can you provide sources for your contention that Da Vinci has been used "for centuries" as Leonardo's surname? [[User:Mpaniello|Mpaniello]] ([[User talk:Mpaniello|talk]]) 00:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* I just responded to the medieval technology talk page. To quote myself from there, "This is not merely a nonsensical argument, but a sloppy one. I advise you to drop the stick." [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 00:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* ... but that being said, here's the Just!One!Source! you demanded, and rather an authoritative one: the [[1911 Britannica]], which routinely uses "Da Vinci" to refer to the chap. [https://archive.org/details/encyclopaediabrit07chisrich/mode/2up?q=Vinci] And you can even view it while you're on your block for edit warring and personal attacks. You're welcome. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 07:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
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How did you put your username in a box and color both the box and the username? [[User:Atomic Sphere|Atomic Sphere]], [[User talk:Atomic Sphere|talk to me]], block button: [[Special:Block|O]] 13:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* Fairly easily! Take a look at the editing codes under the hood, so to speak. You can change your user signature at the Preferences tab at the top. Mine runs <nowiki>[[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]]</nowiki> -- nothing more complicated than that. (You'll see other editors working with multiple colors, changes of background, suchlike). The [[Web colors]] article displays the "hex triplet" codes for various colors. Good fortune! [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 16:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring at [[Medieval technology]] ==<br />
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Really? C'mon. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 20:30, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:It does seem to be a good bit of "Everything WE do is justified, and everything THEY do is wrong!wrong!wrong!", doesn't it? [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 20:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I've walked away from that cesspool. Mpaniello got blocked and went straight back to it. Go figure. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 21:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Signings ==<br />
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Hey Big guy who made you the king of editing NU Hockey? They signed with new teams and have always played in the NHL. I didn't change Bitetto's teams since he has been in the minors. Gaudette and Benning have both been consistent NHL performers. [[User:Ealax2|Ealax2]] ([[User talk:Ealax2|talk]]) 02:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
* It is a longstanding principle on Wikipedia that until someone has done something, they haven't actually done it. Either player could be sent down to the minors (neither one, after all, being any threat to play in the All-Star Game), be traded to another team in the offseason, suffer career-ending injuries in training camp, or get run over by an E train while visiting their old alma mater. This is why we don't credit a player for having played for a team or in a competition until they ''actually take the ice.'' Nor does Wikipedia award any medals for being the first person to get an edit in; there is no reason in the world not to wait until October for such changes. That being said, that chip on your shoulder isn't very becoming. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Really? ==<br />
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For someone who professes not to be interested in flaming, I’m puzzled as to why you’d rock up to Giano’s page, over a month after the last post there, and start throwing insults around. You’ve listed [[Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery]] for FAR, and it will almost certainly be delisted shortly. Your work is done. [[User:KJP1|KJP1]] ([[User talk:KJP1|talk]]) 21:20, 17 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, I was at Giano's page to see if he'd been actively editing since that discussion, since that'd be indicative of whether he was planning to address the concerns. What I was doing was responding to Ritchie's screed. Beyond that, what puzzles ME is your claim that I was throwing insults around. Giano threw out several ''ad hominem'' insults which he neither retracted nor redacted, nor apologized for making. Calling a namecaller a namecaller is an observation, not an insult. (Hell, I would've been well within my rights to drop a warning template instead. Would you have complained about that?) For someone implying that he's got a problem with snark delivered to someone else's talk page, what are you doing here?<p>And hey -- if you're that concerned about the Rosebery article, why don't ''you'' seek to improve it or correct the issues raised? Doesn't look like you ever have. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 21:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== User:Joseph A. Spadaro ==<br />
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<s>I reverted your edit to his user page as the discussion I closed, closed as a community block, not a ban. There is a difference, in that a ban means a person is no longer a part of the community, and a block means they still are, which gets complicated, but they are different. Both must be appealed to the community, although Arb may sometimes get involved with a community block but not a community ban. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 20:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)</s><br />
:Though I appreciate the distinction you are drawing, and some in a [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 140#Unblocking after community-imposed block|May 2017 RfC on this topic]] did see a difference between a community indefinite block and a community ban, the end result of the RfC was to alter {{section link|Wikipedia:Banning policy|Community bans and restrictions}} so that the two are formally considered equivalent. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 22:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I stand corrected. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 23:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::In any event, thank you both for your input. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 23:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== St George's, Hanover Square - Rectors ==<br />
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Hi - I saw that on [[St George's, Hanover Square]], you removed the crosses against the list of rectors as undefined. They did have a consistent definition - those rectors died in post. Perhaps I should have added a legend when I did it, but I've used the same notation (without legend) on several similar lists - for instance, the rector lists for all the ancient churches in the City of Westminster, the top line in [[Template:Churches in Westminster|this template]] (except St Martin-in-the-Fields, whose rector list isn't my work). [[User:LookLook36|LookLook36]] ([[User talk:LookLook36|talk]]) 09:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
* With there being over six million articles on the English Wikipedia, and no such standardized, universally recognized notation, such a legend is necessary on each and every such article. The average reader should not have to guess what the crosses meant. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 16:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
** Fixed, hopefully to your satisfaction. [[User:LookLook36|LookLook36]] ([[User talk:LookLook36|talk]]) 19:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
**:All that was needful, thanks. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 02:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Greetings ==<br />
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I think you have made some very helpful comments with regards to sports notability criteria.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 13:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== The Baltic SSRs ==<br />
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Howdy. My spidey senses are telling me that editor Plingen Plungen ''might'' be a sock of H2ppyme ''or'' Klõps. Also, have you noticed that Nug, hasn't been around the 'pedia, since Feb 2022. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:And small loss, there.<br />
:Eh, Plingen Plungen MIGHT be a sock, but it's not that there haven't been many revisionist editors frothing at the mouth on the Baltic (and many other such) issues over the years. It does no harm to take it at face value. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Now a ''signed out'' IP shows up, to defend using Estonia. Certainly, the place & timing, are just a coincidence. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 23:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I just went to amend the sockpuppet investigation to include the IP, which geolocates to Estonia. (Big surprise.) [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 01:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== You were right ==<br />
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You were right on the facts at ANI. I was likely wrong to call out your comment about the ARS. Apologies. [[User:Lightburst|Lightburst]] ([[User talk:Lightburst|talk]]) 01:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:(nods quietly) Accepted. I've had one too many fights as it is tonight. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 01:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I am better when I keep my head down and work on content. I hope to work with you some time. [[User:Lightburst|Lightburst]] ([[User talk:Lightburst|talk]]) 01:57, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I had a burst of content yesterday. I've had too few of those of late, and it isn't as if there's not plenty to do. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 02:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Requesting your help: COI edits on Daryl Katz ==<br />
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Hello Ravenswing. I see how much you love hockey, and that you are active on [[WP:HOCKEY]]. I am hoping you'd be willing to help me out: NHL team owner Daryl Katz has been in the news recently, the details of which I would like to clarify in his article. I opened [[Talk:Daryl_Katz#Allegations_dismissed_/_Neutral_language| an edit request to revise the text]] which a different editor closed prematurely, at least in my opinion. A different editor brought the issue up [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey#Daryl_Katz| on the talk page of Project Ice Hockey]], but it hasn't gotten much attention there. Modifying the current language about the '''dismissed''' allegations is important to give the whole issue context, maintain NPOV, and advance readability. Can you please review my request and proposed language and make the necessary changes if you think it is appropriate? My COI obviously prevents me from doing anything directly on the page. Thank you. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:I'll take a look at it. That being said, thanks and kudos for recognizing your COI and acting prudently in accordance with it. Altogether too many people don't. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 19:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you Ravenswing for your help. I appreciate your thoughtful review of my suggestions and the changes you implemented. This encyclopedic venture is better for its collaborative nature; the transparency and clarity provided by the COI directives clearly have value. Thanks again. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ravenswing&diff=1109041215User talk:Ravenswing2022-09-07T15:48:24Z<p>DJ for Katz: /* Requesting your help: COI edits on Daryl Katz */ new section</p>
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== Centuries? ==<br />
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Can you provide sources for your contention that Da Vinci has been used "for centuries" as Leonardo's surname? [[User:Mpaniello|Mpaniello]] ([[User talk:Mpaniello|talk]]) 00:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* I just responded to the medieval technology talk page. To quote myself from there, "This is not merely a nonsensical argument, but a sloppy one. I advise you to drop the stick." [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 00:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* ... but that being said, here's the Just!One!Source! you demanded, and rather an authoritative one: the [[1911 Britannica]], which routinely uses "Da Vinci" to refer to the chap. [https://archive.org/details/encyclopaediabrit07chisrich/mode/2up?q=Vinci] And you can even view it while you're on your block for edit warring and personal attacks. You're welcome. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 07:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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Fyi, I'm taking the Leonardo da Vinci argument to the Dispute Resolution board, for which I'm supposed to give you the following code by way of notice:<br />
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This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the [[noticeboard]] regarding Dispute over the proper way to give Leonardo da Vinci'. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. The discussion is about the topic [[:Medieval Technology]]. <br />
Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! {{clear}}<!--Template:DRN-notice--> --[[User:Mpaniello|Mpaniello]] ([[User talk:Mpaniello|talk]]) 03:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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I'm not sure if I've done that correctly, so apologies in advance if there's any issue with the code. Please let me know and I'll endeavor to amend it. [[User:Mpaniello|Mpaniello]] ([[User talk:Mpaniello|talk]]) 03:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
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How did you put your username in a box and color both the box and the username? [[User:Atomic Sphere|Atomic Sphere]], [[User talk:Atomic Sphere|talk to me]], block button: [[Special:Block|O]] 13:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
* Fairly easily! Take a look at the editing codes under the hood, so to speak. You can change your user signature at the Preferences tab at the top. Mine runs <nowiki>[[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]]</nowiki> -- nothing more complicated than that. (You'll see other editors working with multiple colors, changes of background, suchlike). The [[Web colors]] article displays the "hex triplet" codes for various colors. Good fortune! [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 16:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring at [[Medieval technology]] ==<br />
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Really? C'mon. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 20:30, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:It does seem to be a good bit of "Everything WE do is justified, and everything THEY do is wrong!wrong!wrong!", doesn't it? [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 20:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I've walked away from that cesspool. Mpaniello got blocked and went straight back to it. Go figure. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 21:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Signings ==<br />
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Hey Big guy who made you the king of editing NU Hockey? They signed with new teams and have always played in the NHL. I didn't change Bitetto's teams since he has been in the minors. Gaudette and Benning have both been consistent NHL performers. [[User:Ealax2|Ealax2]] ([[User talk:Ealax2|talk]]) 02:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
* It is a longstanding principle on Wikipedia that until someone has done something, they haven't actually done it. Either player could be sent down to the minors (neither one, after all, being any threat to play in the All-Star Game), be traded to another team in the offseason, suffer career-ending injuries in training camp, or get run over by an E train while visiting their old alma mater. This is why we don't credit a player for having played for a team or in a competition until they ''actually take the ice.'' Nor does Wikipedia award any medals for being the first person to get an edit in; there is no reason in the world not to wait until October for such changes. That being said, that chip on your shoulder isn't very becoming. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Really? ==<br />
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For someone who professes not to be interested in flaming, I’m puzzled as to why you’d rock up to Giano’s page, over a month after the last post there, and start throwing insults around. You’ve listed [[Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery]] for FAR, and it will almost certainly be delisted shortly. Your work is done. [[User:KJP1|KJP1]] ([[User talk:KJP1|talk]]) 21:20, 17 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, I was at Giano's page to see if he'd been actively editing since that discussion, since that'd be indicative of whether he was planning to address the concerns. What I was doing was responding to Ritchie's screed. Beyond that, what puzzles ME is your claim that I was throwing insults around. Giano threw out several ''ad hominem'' insults which he neither retracted nor redacted, nor apologized for making. Calling a namecaller a namecaller is an observation, not an insult. (Hell, I would've been well within my rights to drop a warning template instead. Would you have complained about that?) For someone implying that he's got a problem with snark delivered to someone else's talk page, what are you doing here?<p>And hey -- if you're that concerned about the Rosebery article, why don't ''you'' seek to improve it or correct the issues raised? Doesn't look like you ever have. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 21:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== User:Joseph A. Spadaro ==<br />
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<s>I reverted your edit to his user page as the discussion I closed, closed as a community block, not a ban. There is a difference, in that a ban means a person is no longer a part of the community, and a block means they still are, which gets complicated, but they are different. Both must be appealed to the community, although Arb may sometimes get involved with a community block but not a community ban. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 20:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)</s><br />
:Though I appreciate the distinction you are drawing, and some in a [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 140#Unblocking after community-imposed block|May 2017 RfC on this topic]] did see a difference between a community indefinite block and a community ban, the end result of the RfC was to alter {{section link|Wikipedia:Banning policy|Community bans and restrictions}} so that the two are formally considered equivalent. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 22:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I stand corrected. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 23:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::In any event, thank you both for your input. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 23:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== St George's, Hanover Square - Rectors ==<br />
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Hi - I saw that on [[St George's, Hanover Square]], you removed the crosses against the list of rectors as undefined. They did have a consistent definition - those rectors died in post. Perhaps I should have added a legend when I did it, but I've used the same notation (without legend) on several similar lists - for instance, the rector lists for all the ancient churches in the City of Westminster, the top line in [[Template:Churches in Westminster|this template]] (except St Martin-in-the-Fields, whose rector list isn't my work). [[User:LookLook36|LookLook36]] ([[User talk:LookLook36|talk]]) 09:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
* With there being over six million articles on the English Wikipedia, and no such standardized, universally recognized notation, such a legend is necessary on each and every such article. The average reader should not have to guess what the crosses meant. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 16:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
** Fixed, hopefully to your satisfaction. [[User:LookLook36|LookLook36]] ([[User talk:LookLook36|talk]]) 19:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
**:All that was needful, thanks. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 02:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Greetings ==<br />
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I think you have made some very helpful comments with regards to sports notability criteria.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 13:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== The Baltic SSRs ==<br />
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Howdy. My spidey senses are telling me that editor Plingen Plungen ''might'' be a sock of H2ppyme ''or'' Klõps. Also, have you noticed that Nug, hasn't been around the 'pedia, since Feb 2022. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:And small loss, there.<br />
:Eh, Plingen Plungen MIGHT be a sock, but it's not that there haven't been many revisionist editors frothing at the mouth on the Baltic (and many other such) issues over the years. It does no harm to take it at face value. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 17:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
::Now a ''signed out'' IP shows up, to defend using Estonia. Certainly, the place & timing, are just a coincidence. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 23:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I just went to amend the sockpuppet investigation to include the IP, which geolocates to Estonia. (Big surprise.) [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 01:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== You were right ==<br />
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You were right on the facts at ANI. I was likely wrong to call out your comment about the ARS. Apologies. [[User:Lightburst|Lightburst]] ([[User talk:Lightburst|talk]]) 01:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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:(nods quietly) Accepted. I've had one too many fights as it is tonight. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 01:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I am better when I keep my head down and work on content. I hope to work with you some time. [[User:Lightburst|Lightburst]] ([[User talk:Lightburst|talk]]) 01:57, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I had a burst of content yesterday. I've had too few of those of late, and it isn't as if there's not plenty to do. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#2B22AA;color:#E285FF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''' ]] 02:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)<br />
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== Requesting your help: COI edits on Daryl Katz ==<br />
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Hello Ravenswing. I see how much you love hockey, and that you are active on [[WP:HOCKEY]]. I am hoping you'd be willing to help me out: NHL team owner Daryl Katz has been in the news recently, the details of which I would like to clarify in his article. I opened [[Talk:Daryl_Katz#Allegations_dismissed_/_Neutral_language| an edit request to revise the text]] which a different editor closed prematurely, at least in my opinion. A different editor brought the issue up [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey#Daryl_Katz| on the talk page of Project Ice Hockey]], but it hasn't gotten much attention there. Modifying the current language about the '''dismissed''' allegations is important to give the whole issue context, maintain NPOV, and advance readability. Can you please review my request and proposed language and make the necessary changes if you think it is appropriate? My COI obviously prevents me from doing anything directly on the page. Thank you. [[User:DJ for Katz|DJ for Katz]] ([[User talk:DJ for Katz|talk]]) 15:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)</div>DJ for Katz