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2011-12-26T16:45:10Z

Joushou: /* Difference between Nippon and Nihon */

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== Map used ==

Hello all,
i fail to understand the usage of world map in wikipedia which is not politically correct.
i see a part of Kashmir being depicted as part of Pakistan in the map used here. since it is disputed, i request to use appropriate map. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/182.68.253.208|182.68.253.208]] ([[User talk:182.68.253.208|talk]]) 17:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)</span> 
:You're kidding, right? I can barely even see Kashmir on this map. In any event, take it up somewhere else--this is a standard globe/map templating that WP uses for most of it's country articles. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

== Difference between Nippon and Nihon ==

Nihon and Nippon are not different names, but simply different ways to pronounce it in order to simplify pronounciation.
A "hardened" h-sound in Japanese becomes a "b", and as an exclusive to the h-soundset, "double hardening" makes it a p-sound. To further harden the sound, what we call a double consonant is used, to make it have more impact. (The tiny tsu/つ in にっぽん indicates the double consonant effect. The maru/small circle at the ほ indicates the hardening of the h sound).

In the article, it appears to be considered very different names. However, assuming I explained well enough, it should be rather clear that it is not considered as such. They can be used interchangeably, even though the "standard form" is Nihon. Nippon is often used for things as sports events, speeches, or other places where you want impact on the country name.
I suggest a change of the explanation into something along the lines of "The Japanese name for Japan is Nihon (日本, にほん), however, it is often pronounced as Nippon (にっぽん, same kanji), when the speaker wishes for a greater impact, such as in speeches, or at sports events.".

(I'd edit it myself, but it's a semi-protected article, and I haven't had a user here until now. Far too lazy, seeing I was able to edit other articles anonymously. ;) )

Talk:Japan

2011-12-26T16:43:49Z

Joushou: /* Difference between Nippon and Nihon */

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== Map used ==

Hello all,
i fail to understand the usage of world map in wikipedia which is not politically correct.
i see a part of Kashmir being depicted as part of Pakistan in the map used here. since it is disputed, i request to use appropriate map. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/182.68.253.208|182.68.253.208]] ([[User talk:182.68.253.208|talk]]) 17:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)</span> 
:You're kidding, right? I can barely even see Kashmir on this map. In any event, take it up somewhere else--this is a standard globe/map templating that WP uses for most of it's country articles. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

== Difference between Nippon and Nihon ==

Nihon and Nippon are not different names, but simply different ways to pronounce it in order to simplify pronounciation.
A "hardened" h-sound in Japanese becomes a "b", and as an exclusive to the h-soundset, "double hardening" makes it a p-sound. To further harden the sound, what we call a double consonant is used, to make it have more impact. (The tiny tsu/つ in にっぽん indicates the double consonant effect. The maru/small circle at the ほ indicates the hardening of the h sound).

In the article, it appears to be considered very different names. However, assuming I explained well enough, it should be rather clear that it is not considered as such. They can be used interchangeably, even though the "standard form" is Nihon. Nippon is often used for things as sports events, speeches, or other places where you want impact on the country name.
I suggest a change of the explanation into something along the lines of "The Japanese name for Japan is Nihon (日本, にほん), however, it is often pronounced as Nippon (にっぽん, same kanji), when the speaker wishes for a greater impact, such as in speeches, or at sports events.".

(I'd edit it myself, but it's a semi-protected article, and I haven't had a user here until now. I was previously far too lazy to make one, seeing I was able to edit other articles anonymously. ;) )

Talk:Japan

2011-12-26T16:43:14Z

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