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== Parenthetical Descriptors in the lead ==<br />
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"John Lennon (rhythm guitar, vocals), Paul McCartney (bass guitar, vocals), George Harrison (lead guitar, vocals) and Ringo Starr (drums, vocals)."<br />
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Does anyone else find these a bit tedious, misleading, and incomplete, e.g. both John and Paul played some piano, and lead guitar, live and in the studio. Paul played the drums at times, George played the bass, etcetera. As it stands now, a quick glance of the article's lead would leave the reader assuming the lead guitar work on "Tax Man" or ''Sgt. Pepper'' was Harrison. Any thoughts, suggestions? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 05:25, 12 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:This is fine. These are the instruments they're most identified with. Many musicians in many bands sometimes pick up secondary and tertiary instruments, but there's no need to get more detailed in the lead section. This is a perfectly standard and informative way of describing the members' customary roles in the band. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 05:52, 12 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't suggesting we "get more detailed in the lead section", I was suggesting less detail, remove the descriptors, let the article explain their various roles in the band, not the lead, it's way too complicated with this band to do it justice in the lead. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 06:11, 12 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I'm with Doc on this one, I think. As an overview of roles it's fine, and details are fleshed out later. If you remove it, and the theoretical "only person in the universe who doesn't know", has to start searching the article to find out Ringo was the drummer, for instance, the lead is failing its purpose somewhat. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">[[User:Begoon|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Begoon</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:Begoon|<span style="color:gray;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span> 06:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::But what about the reader who leaves thinking Paul only played bass, the lead isn't doing it's job in that case either. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 06:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I take your point, but it still reads fine to me, especially in context (it's part of a dated narrative). I'm not saying I object to any change because it's perfect, but I can't think of a way to improve it without making it messy, and I'm not in favour of removing it entirely. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">[[User:Begoon|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Begoon</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:Begoon|<span style="color:gray;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span> 07:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC) <br />
:::{{small|1='''Afterword:''' I guess removing "lead", "rhythm", and "bass" would solve one of your issues - but I'm not too keen on that, either, really. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">[[User:Begoon|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Begoon</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:Begoon|<span style="color:gray;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span> 07:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)}}<br />
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:I think it's fine, but I would add "piano" to Paul's description, since he played quite a bit of it, some of it is actually signature, and was the band's principle piano player. [[User:Cfortunato|Carlo]] ([[User talk:Cfortunato|talk]]) 23:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Rock'n'Roll ==<br />
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shouldn't this be in their genre? [[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 16:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 16:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
: I think Rock and Pop covers it, to add Rock'n'Roll is redundant and confusing IMO. Rock'n'Roll implies 1950s music. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 01:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, rock and roll and rock are pretty much the same... [[Special:Contributions/24.89.194.251|24.89.194.251]] ([[User talk:24.89.194.251|talk]]) 21:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC) <br />
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WTF pop wasn't there genre look through their wiki albums pages and you'll see only one album had pop songs and 3 had rock and roll and there not the same please listen to rock'n'roll and then a rock song you'll see a clear difference and the 60's were a year for Rock'N'roll too [[Special:Contributions/82.0.95.94|82.0.95.94]] ([[User talk:82.0.95.94|talk]])ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/82.0.95.94|82.0.95.94]] ([[User talk:82.0.95.94|talk]])<br />
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:There have been many discussions here about the genres to be included which you probably haven't seen - try reading these discussions as it may help you to understand why the article includes what it does. Here's a link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=genres&prefix=Talk%3AThe+Beatles%2F&fulltext=Search+archives&fulltext=Search]. Maybe there will be parts of those discussions which you think need more consideration, or maybe the links will explain the reasoning. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">[[User:Begoon|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Begoon</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:Begoon|<span style="color:gray;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span> 06:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: 82.0.95.94, your unsourced claim that "only one album had pop songs and 3 had rock and roll" does not hold up to scrutiny. In fact it would be easier to argue, IMO, that ''every'' Beatle album had both pop and rock songs. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 04:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Okay then please provide a source that say's there pop [[Special:Contributions/82.0.90.251|82.0.90.251]] ([[User talk:82.0.90.251|talk]])ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/82.0.90.251|82.0.90.251]] ([[User talk:82.0.90.251|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 17:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Please_Please_Me <br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_The_Beatles<br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatles_for_Sale<br />
as you can see they released 3 albums with the genre "Rock N Roll" and below you'll see that this is there only album with the genre pop<br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_(album) [[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]])ericdeaththe2nd[[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 21:09, 1 March 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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Eric, first, other Wikipedia articles are not considered RSs for this article, second are you really claiming that the Beatles were not at least in part a pop group? Which Beatles album do you think contains no pop songs? On, "please provide a source that say's there pop": <br />
* Davies, 1985, p.71<br />
* Gould, 2008, p.162<br />
* Brown & Gaines, 2002, p.122<br />
* Spitz, 2005, p.657<br />
* The Beatles, 2000, Paul: p.219, George: p.349 [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 23:29, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Firstly my name is Ben "Eric" is my online ID, none of them contain many pop songs if you read through the albums Pop isn't considered a genre, but 3 of these so called "reliable" articles have the genre Rock'N'Roll and you can ask anyone nowadays and they would agree, and the so called sources you pasted ", Davies, 1985, p.71, Gould, 2008, p.162, Brown & Gaines, 2002, p.122, Spitz, 2005, p.657, The Beatles, 2000, Paul: p.219, George: p.349" that's just writing there's no links whatsoever [[Special:Contributions/86.25.245.177|86.25.245.177]] ([[User talk:86.25.245.177|talk]])ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/86.25.245.177|86.25.245.177]] ([[User talk:86.25.245.177|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 23:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Okay Ben, but I think you missed my point. Other Wikipedia articles are not Reliable Sources for this article, so it really does not matter what other wiki articles say about the Beatles genres, what matters is what the [[WP:RS|high quality reliable sources]] say do you understand the difference? But really, I'm curious, can you name one Beatles album that does not contain at least one pop song? And no, I didn't provide links to the sources, but I have hard copies of the sources listed above, and I gave enough detail so that anyone can check what the sources say if they are willing to make an effort. Also Ben, remember to sign your comments with four tildes, ala: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> And thanks for joining the discussion, a fresh perspective is always appreciated. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Well i decided to be mature now, I think most of them don't have any pop songs the album "A Hard Day's Night" has loads of pop songs and the song "Love Me Do" would be considered pop but i think there last 3-4 albums don't have any pop songs nor do the first 2 but that's my perspective and yeah i know i accidently added 3 by mistake, Thanks [[Special:Contributions/82.0.88.36|82.0.88.36]] ([[User talk:82.0.88.36|talk]]) 17:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/82.0.88.36|82.0.88.36]] ([[User talk:82.0.88.36|talk]]) 17:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Ben, do you think "Here Comes the Sun" is a rock or a pop song? How about "Anna" from PPM? "Till there was You" form WTB? "If I fell" from ''A Hard days Night'', "Eight Days a Week", "Yesterday", "Michelle", etcetera. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 06:02, 3 March 2012 (UTC) <br />
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Here comes the sun i would say rock, anna is a mixture of pop and rock, till there was you is pop, if i fell i would say rock, a hard days night i would say both, eight days a week i would consider both, yesterday is pop, michelle is quite hard i would say it can't be rock but it doesn't sound popish, and nothing i'm going to say is going to have "rock n roll" added to the genre is it? [[Special:Contributions/86.2.129.71|86.2.129.71]] ([[User talk:86.2.129.71|talk]]) 00:14, 10 March 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/86.2.129.71|86.2.129.71]] ([[User talk:86.2.129.71|talk]]) 00:14, 10 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
: Not necessarily Ben, you just have to make a strong arguement for it. But I can tell you that this issue has been dedated here before, and the general consensus was that Rock covers it, and to add rock'n'roll isn't necessary. You can search the archives for the topic to look at previous discussions. But thanks for your input, and don't lose hope. You won't win every arguement here, but you may win some if your position is well-stated, and ''sourced''. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 01:52, 10 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Fine but I think it's still misleading, and on another note after reading through the archives It has come to my attention that theres a current members section and a past section members, the beatles ended years ago so why have it up? [[Special:Contributions/86.25.244.103|86.25.244.103]] ([[User talk:86.25.244.103|talk]]) 14:32, 10 March 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[Special:Contributions/86.25.244.103|86.25.244.103]] ([[User talk:86.25.244.103|talk]]) 14:32, 10 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with you, IMO there are no current members, however, in order to change it one would need to build a consensus. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 03:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC) <br />
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What is a consenus? [[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 18:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 18:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:The public infobox indicates "members" and "past members" with no mention of "current members." To avoid confusing the Fab Four for the never existed Fab Six, the members are John, Paul, George and Ringo and the past members are Stu and Pete. That is the consensus. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 19:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Ah i see, so is that why there isn't on of these below <br />
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Member's<br />
John Lennon - Vocals, Rhythm Guitar<br />
Paul McCartney - Vocals, Bass Guitar snd Guitar (1960-1961)<br />
George Harrison - Vocals, Lead Guitar<br />
Ringo Starr - Vocals, Drums/Percussion<br />
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Former Members<br />
Stuart Sutcliffe - Vocals, Bass Guitar<br />
Pete Best - Drums/Percussion [[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 21:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd[[User:Ericdeaththe2nd|Ericdeaththe2nd]] ([[User talk:Ericdeaththe2nd|talk]]) 21:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Restructuring ==<br />
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I think the section "CD releases" should be integrated into the section "After the break-up (1970-present)", because 1) it breaks up the chronological order, and 2) both sections are currently incomplete or redundant if completed. As the section "CD releases" stands now, it excludes ''1'', ''Live at the BBC'', and the ''Anthology'', but if we complete it it will be redundant with the previous section. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 09:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:All this would be covered in the [[The Beatles discography]] article anyway, wouldn't? Which lists in addition to ''Anthology 1, 2 and 3''', ''Yellow Submarine Songtrack'' as a compilation release in 1999 as well as several compilation releases in the 2000's. There is also the mid-nineties singles releases (incl. "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love"). I agree with your overall sentiment that the section "CD releases", as it is now, does not work well. As I don't edit music articles very heavily or often, I don't know what the definition of "CD release" would be exactly; or the difference between it necessarily and other discography lists (album, compilation etc.)--[[User:Racerx11|Racerx11]] ([[User talk:Racerx11|talk]]) 22:57, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for your input, it seems we agree that, "the section "CD releases", as it is now, does not work well". So, Racerx11, do you support a re-work of the structure in this regard? Are you suggesting that rather than integrating the "CD releases" section within the current article, it should be integrated at [[The Beatles discography]] article? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 23:19, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:::I would be fine with integrating the section into this article. As for [[The Beatles discography]], that would be fine too, but I dont understand the difference between a list of "CD releases" and the lists already in that article now. Would it simply be a list any Beatles music released in the CD format? with the dates each first became available in that format? That article already appears fairly exhaustive. In other words, I am leaning toward suggesting that we simply delete the entire 'Discograhy' section here and just have the link pointing to [[The Beatles discography]], but not 100% sure if thats the best thing to do unless there is consensus for such an action.--[[User:Racerx11|Racerx11]] ([[User talk:Racerx11|talk]]) 23:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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* Specifically, I suggest some variation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles&oldid=478747262 this], versus [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles&oldid=478747336 this], any thoughts? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't know about all that. The general idea you suggested in your original post is fine with me as far as removing 'CD releases' and incoporating the info into the section 'After the break-up (1970-present)', but I suggest you tie in with User:DocKino, the editor who reverted those changes, before putting all this back. I am stepping out if this dicussion more or less '''nuetral''' on the issue of restoring your edits. Thanks.--[[User:Racerx11|Racerx11]] ([[User talk:Racerx11|talk]]) 01:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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The CD releases section should remain as is, as it's about the tracks The Beatles released while they were together. There is a hatnote for [[The Beatles discography]]. My suggestion is to add a 1990s section to talk about the compilations from ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' onward. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
: Steelbeard1, please explain how/why "CD releases" is "about the tracks The Beatles released while they were together." Why do we need a separate section for CD releases of music previously released on record? Also, ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' was not released (in any format except live on the radio) while the Beatles were together, so I am confused by your example. Further, to add info to "CDR" about the 1990s and 2000s would be redundant with the previous section, "After the break-up (1970-present)". Either way, "CDR" is incomplete or redundant. Can you give a good reason/s why "CDR" should not be integrated into "ATB"? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 22:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::"The tracks" refer to the core catalog. Nothing else. The details are in the linked album articles. I'm also referring to commerically released recordings of which ''Live at the BBC'' did not qualify because it was released after they broke up in 1970. As for the potential redundancy, just list the new compilations of previously unreleased recordings as well as the single CD ''1'' compilation. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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First off, I'm unconvinced by the primary stated premises behind the restructuring. The "Discography" section as currently constituted no more "breaks up the chronological order" than do the "Musical style and development" or "Awards and achievements" sections. What we currently have is a large "History" section, followed by several topically focused sections that naturally reference periods of time also surveyed in the "History" section--that's an entirely standard format for a culture article, generally, and a pop music artist article, specifically. The question of sections being "incomplete" is similarly off-point; we choose what information goes in what section (chronological-history or topical-focus) to make each as effective and useful as possible; what's important is that the article as a whole is comprehensive and as complete as appropriate, which it is. As for "redundancy", I see all of ''one sentence'' that's arguably redundant--the final sentence of the "2000s" subsection; that hardly constitutes a redundancy problem.<br />
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Second, I think the "Discography" section as currently constituted has served and continues to serve the positive purpose of focusing on and clarifying the various permutations of The Beatles' canonical recordings. As the sources indicate, the story of what happened with those recordings in the digital era is more noteworthy than what has happened with the classic recordings of almost any other pop music artists, and I believe clearly continues to warrant its own narrative section. That story gets muddied, I believe, when it is divorced from the "Original UK LPs" list and threaded into the "After the break-up (1970–present)" subsection, which currently focuses on post-band activities and the latter-day release of recordings that are supplemental to the canon.<br />
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Third--and this is relatively minor--in terms of execution, I saw a very odd structure where sub-sub-sections titled "1970s", "1980s", "1990s", and "2000s" were followed by one titled "2009—present." Furthermore, "2000s" included events from 2009 and "2009—present" included events prior to 2009.<br />
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In sum, I believe the restructuring is unnecessary, solves no pressing problems, and actually weakens the narrative. While it doesn't strike me as impossible to come up with a more successful restructuring approach, for now I believe the structure with which the article achieved FA status clearly remains the superior one. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 04:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Doc, on your first point, I feel the chronology is broken because "ATB" contains sub-sections for the 1970s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s, yet these sections do not include the entire Beatles output, and are therefore incomplete. Then later in the article we have sub-sections for the 1980s, and 1990s in "CDR". So to me, we already have an "ATB" chronology that is incomplete and should be completed rather than making "CDR" redundant. Further, why is there a need for a "CD releases" section in the first place? We have no vinyl, 8-track, or cassette sections, and one could argue that with digital downloads, CDs are just another soon to be obsolete format. On your second point, why should this info not be at [[The Beatles Discography]]? We could reduce the size and load-time of the Beatles article if this info were smerged into the Discography article. On your third point, that is a simple editing issue that could easily be fixed, and was merely the result of my being bold and trying a new approach, that needed some tweaking. Also, the section, "After the break-up", mentions ''Live at the BBC'', the ''Anthology'', ''1'', ''Let it Be- naked'', ''Love'', and the 2009 remasters. So why does the section mention these CD releases, yet not the others? I do understand what you mean about the canon versus compilations, but again, couldn't/shouldn't this issue be addressed at the Discography article rather than here? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:14, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
I just added onto the CD releases subsection to show my version of how it should look. How is it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 04:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It's well written, really, but I wasn't saying that the section couldn't technically be completed, it's just more redundant now that it's complete, and the Beatles is 1000 bytes larger and a slightly slower article now. The core of my initial arguement was that the section is by nature either incomplete or redundant, and I think your edits have proven that assertion to some extent. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 04:36, 2 March 2012 (UTC) <br />
===Straw Poll===<br />
Please indicate here whether you support or oppose GabeMc's proposal to integrate "CD releases" with either "After the break-up (1970-present) or [[The Beatles discography]], or a combination of both. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 04:54, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Qualified Support''' While it certainly seems like a good idea to me, I have not, to the best of my recollection, edited this article before, and my opinion probably should not carry the same weight as those of regular contributors. [[User:Joefromrandb|Joefromrandb]] ([[User talk:Joefromrandb|talk]]) 20:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' I support altering the article as discussed. Either method would be acceptable to me. And Joefromrandb, your opinion is as valuable as any other editor's. The number of edits you may or may not have to any particular article is irrelevant. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. Sure, the editors who regularly edit an article tend to be more knowledgeable about that article, but the good ones amongst them recognise that outside views are a breath of fresh air, often allowing them to "see the wood from the trees" and spot issues they otherwise might not because they are so closely invested in the article.<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">[[User:Begoon|<span style="color:#0645AD;">Begoon</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:Begoon|<span style="color:gray;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</span> 01:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support'''* '''153,126 bytes'''. As this page takes so long to load, any kind of brevity would be helpful.--[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 20:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Andreasegde, is that a support, or an oppose? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::It's a support for any kind of trimming. Certain sections are way too long.--[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 23:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' Please see my comments above. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 04:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' The CD releases section is either incomplete or redundant, in the project as well as the article, and it should be merged as much as possible into the Discography article, reducing the size and load-time of [[The Beatles]]. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose'''. I agree with DocKino. I think an overview of how the band's core catalogue has been handled since the CD era is useful and works better in a separate section. Restructuring seems to me like yet more unnecessary work.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 12:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::What about merging the CD info with [[The Beatles Discography]]? And as far as, "more unnecessary work", I will do the work, so that should not be an issue for you IMO. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 02:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::I concur that "unnecessary work" is an invalid argument against. Both in general and in the particular case. [[User:Giraffedata|Bryan Henderson]] ([[User talk:Giraffedata|talk]]) 23:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment:''' Just a few comments on some of the changes that might be required if we decided to move the "Discography" section's content elsewhere:<br />
:#Whatever restructuring is done, I still think the "Discography" section should at least ''mention'' MMT, Past Masters, Capitol Albums Vol 1 & 2, Anthology, Live at the BBC, the remasters, and the digital releases. But it should do it much more concisely (maybe in list format?), with the most complete descriptions reserved for the page [[The Beatles discography]].<br />
:#[[The Beatles discography]] is currently set up primarily for table content - it'd need some restructuring if we wanted to incorporate much of the prose text from this article's "Discography" section.<br />
:#The "Discography > CD Releases > 1980s" section's paragraph on how the band's albums were released on CD in 1987 could easily be transferred to the "After the break-up > 1980s" section of the timeline without much editing.<br />
:#The same goes for the paragraph on the Capitol Albums vol 1 and 2.<br />
:#As for the paragraphs on the 9/9/09 remasterings and the iTunes downloads: whether or not it's decided to leave the structure as it is, incorporate that information into the main History timeline, or transfer it across to [[The Beatles discography]], these paragraphs could do with some trimming! Mainly, this article is supposed to give a general overview of the band, and I don't think such detailed quotes from ''Mojo'' about the remasters' sound quality really belong here. [[The Beatles discography]], [[The Beatles in Mono]] and [[The Beatles Stereo Box Set]] would be the best places for detailed summaries of the remasters' critical reception, as those articles could accommodate further review quotes from a wider variety of sources.<br />
:--<span style="font-family:monospace">[[User:Nick R|Nick R]]<sup>[[User talk:Nick R|<span style="color:#008800">Talk</span>]]</sup></span> 03:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Sounds like a support to me. I agree with all five points. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 03:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose'''--Just concentrate on the core catalogue and for the 1990s onward, just mention the new compilations from ''LIve at the BBC'' onward in passing. The details would be in the main [[The Beatles discography]] article with the hatnote already in place. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: It sounds like you support the proposal Steelbeard1, as that's essentially what I want to do. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 01:46, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::But keep it within the CD Releases subsection of the discography section of this article. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 03:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for your reply, to it I respond with a question: why do we need a CD section at all, there is no vinyl, 8-track, or cassette sections? Is it particularly notable that the Beatles material has been available on CD for 25 years, and do we really need the details of such here? Why not link to the the canon here, with some key additions (MMT, Past Masters, Capitol Albums Vol 1 & 2, Anthology, Live at the BBC, the remasters, and the digital releases), and move as much info as we can to the Discography, and integrate any key points into "ATB"? [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 03:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::The 8-tracks and cassettes were identical to the vinyl albums. With CD releases, The Beatles' catalogue was standardised world wide. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 15:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Okay, I see your point there, but it still does not answer why the details of their CD releases should be at The Beatles versus at their discography. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 22:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' merging with "After the break-up". -- I've been out of the loop for a while, but I just wanted to get my two cents in here. The discography section, as is, does seem a little overly complicated. I wouldn't have a problem with moving much of the "CD Releases" section into the history article. It would fit in the narrative pretty seamlessly, most likely. The discography really should be just a list of the original UK albums, and maybe the EPs as well. Some articles ([[Frank Zappa]] comes to mind) eliminate the discography section entirely and just link to an external article. I don't think we need to do that here, but restructuring would definitely help. <font color="green">Evanh2008,</font> <font color="purple">Super Genius</font> <font size="1"> [[User:Evanh2008|Who am I?]] [[User talk:Evanh2008|You can talk to me...]]</font> 22:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' as I can't see there's much point in keeping a separate CD section. If it ''is'' necessary to document in full detail every single release of each album the Beatles made, then perhaps that ought to be done on the individual page of the album in question. Whether to have a CD section at all - don't see it's necessary. --[[User talk:WestwoodMatt|Matt Westwood]] 06:15, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' I would say put it in the Discography article. Not to do so throws away a chance to keep the Beatles own article as short as posssible. A small amount of redundancy in the main article (a paragraph rather than just a redirect line) draws attention to the subject and stops editors from coming in and rewriting the whole thing, thinking it's been left out, because the redirect is small and hidden in the text. [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 08:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - I've always taken the view that artist articles should be limited to their original releases and a few re-issues, where notable. It's a long article anyway, if such things aren't to be in prose then move them into the discography article. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Parrot of Doom|Parrot]] [[User talk:Parrot of Doom|of Doom]]</span> 14:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' moving CD releases into [[The Beatles discography]]. The article is overly long anyway, and that's the logical place for the material. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 00:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support'''. I don't understand why a Discography section should exist at all when an article with that title exists. But the "CD Releases" subsection is not discography. It's history of the band. If there's discographic information in there that isn't already in the discography article (I haven't looked closely enough), it should go in there, but the story of CD-era releases should go in the after-breakup history section. [[User:Giraffedata|Bryan Henderson]] ([[User talk:Giraffedata|talk]]) 23:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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* '''Comment''' ~ Unless my math is off, I count the poll at 10 to 3 in favor of integration of the "CD releases" section. This seems a clear consensus so I'll go ahead and make the edits. We can take another poll afterward if the community does not like the changes. Thanks for your time and participation. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 03:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Added the ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)]]'' which is the other Beatle EP with exclusive song content to the list. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Nice addition Steelbeard1. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 02:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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===Critics' comments on 1987/2009 CDs===<br />
Starting this new section to avoid bogging down the straw poll. Further to my Point #5 above:<br />
#As I said above, I don't think this article's Discography sections should include critics' comments on the 1987/2009 CDs. But while editing the section just now, I realised something that might be relevant if that text is incorporated into [[The Beatles discography]]. At the moment the 9.9.09 paragraph basically goes: "''Facts about the remasters -> Brief skips back to 1965 and 1987 -> Critics' comments on 1987 CDs -> Critics' comments on 2009 CDs.''" That's a bit awkward! So IMO the Danny Eccleston quote about the 1987 CDs' sound quality (and his PW/Rain example) would be better placed in the paragraph on the the 1987 CDs.<br />
#But wherever this text ends up, "ever since 1987 there have been complaints about the sound" is a strong claim; do you think we'd need more sources (like reviews written in the late '80s) to support it?<br />
--<span style="font-family:monospace">[[User:Nick R|Nick R]]<sup>[[User talk:Nick R|<span style="color:#008800">Talk</span>]]</sup></span> 04:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: I agree 100%, and it's part of what I was trying to say above. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 04:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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< In any case, the sound of these remasters, mono or stereo, is exceptional. I've always felt that the sound quality of the original 1987 remasters was slightly underrated. The CD issues were well received at the time and were considered state of the art, but as the years wore on and the label never did anything to improve them, resentment set in and people began to focus on their flaws. Fair enough. But whatever you think of the 1987 remasters, these new versions are a marked improvement. In terms of clarity and detail, they are consistently impressive. But they're also successful for showing restraint><br />
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13425-stereo-box-in-mono/<br />
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Number 236 ref need to fix from ''Southall'' 2006 to ''Southall & Perry 2006''. [[Special:Contributions/46.35.206.137|46.35.206.137]] ([[User talk:46.35.206.137|talk]]) 21:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Hot 100 ==<br />
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The article makes at least two references to the Beatles 'topping Billboard magazine's list of all-time best-selling Hot 100 artists'. The Hot 100 mixes and sales and airplay so this sentence is misleading. Something like 'topping Billboard magazine's list of all-time most successful Hot 100 artists', or even 'topping Billboard magazine's list of the Hot 100's top 100 artists', the latter phrasing as lifted directly from their website, would be more accurate. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.14.248.197|92.14.248.197]] ([[User talk:92.14.248.197|talk]]) 17:52, 2 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
: Good point 92.14.248.197, thanks for your input! I think your former suggestion is better than the latter, as it avoids the redundancy of "100". I've made the needed changes. Thanks again for your contribution! [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 00:54, 3 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Free as a Bird/Real Love, Active Dates ==<br />
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If Free as a Bird and Real Love were released as singles by the Beatles, wouldn't that mean that the group was active from 1995-1996 as well? Just because one member of the group passed away before more music was produced doesn't mean the group can no longer be active. The Doors is a good example of this. [[User:NintendoNerd777|NintendoNerd777]] ([[User talk:NintendoNerd777|talk]]) 18:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:That was discussed before. The consensus was a firm NO. It was simply the three surviving Beatles and Yoko Ono collaborating on [[The Beatles Anthology]] projects. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 21:31, 19 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: I concur with Steelbeard1. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 21:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I wouldn't call it a "firm" no. There were several (including myself) who concurred with the logic that inactive bands don't release newly recorded material. Not that I want to dredge this thing up or anything like that; just for the benefit of the OP... [[User:Evanh2008|Evanh2008]] ([[User talk:Evanh2008|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Evanh2008|contribs]]) 21:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::Good point Evan, you are correct, some did agree, and remember, consensus can change, it is not written in stone. [[User:GabeMc| — GabeMc]] ([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]) 01:17, 21 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::...but it is writ rather large at this time! <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 01:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute. The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. The record labels only distribute albums and singles, not all of the entire Lennon/McCartney discography. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Furthermore, in your logic perhaps you can explain why Octopus's Garden is listed under Apple Records too, this is owned by Startling Music Ltd. And I'm referring to the individual track, not Abbey Road [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The term "label" refers to the record label meaning the owner or licencee of the ''physical recorded work'' as opposed to the ''owner of the song'' that was recorded. Did I make myself clear? EMI owns the master tapes. Sony/ATV owns most of the songs. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 19:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
I think we're both missing the point of each other's argument. For those physical releases, the songs seem to be correct, but the ones that aren't released on any other format than an album, should have some reference to their owners... I have just gone through the Anthology book, the copyright of songs like In My Life, Lucy, Two Of Us and I've Got A Feeling are copyright owned by Sony/ATV Music and published by Sony/ATV Music Publishing, therefore there should be some mention of that in the information box listed with the rest of the important info. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 19:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Once again, the recordings of songs recorded for EMI by The Beatles, whether they are released or not, including alternate takes still in the vaults are property of EMI. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 19:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
what is the point in contributing when you don't listen to other ideas, I am proposing that we make some mention for all songs about the owners. If EMI own them then why is there no mention of that in the information? The publishing ought to go there too because fans will want to know this sort of stuff, who owns what songs in the Beatles' back catalogue, who publishes which songs etc. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 19:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350452468Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T19:13:15Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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== New Article?? ==<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute. The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. The record labels only distribute albums and singles, not all of the entire Lennon/McCartney discography. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Furthermore, in your logic perhaps you can explain why Octopus's Garden is listed under Apple Records too, this is owned by Startling Music Ltd. And I'm referring to the individual track, not Abbey Road [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The term "label" refers to the record label meaning the owner or licencee of the ''physical recorded work'' as opposed to the ''owner of the song'' that was recorded. Did I make myself clear? EMI owns the master tapes. Sony/ATV owns most of the songs. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 19:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
I think we're both missing the point of each other's argument. For those physical releases, the songs seem to be correct, but the ones that aren't released on any other format than an album, should have some reference to their owners... I have just gone through the Anthology book, the copyright of songs like In My Life, Lucy, Two Of Us and I've Got A Feeling are copyright owned by Sony/ATV Music and published by Sony/ATV Music Publishing, therefore there should be some mention of that in the information box listed with the rest of the important info. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 19:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350449712Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T18:57:25Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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== New Article?? ==<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute. The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. The record labels only distribute albums and singles, not all of the entire Lennon/McCartney discography. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Furthermore, in your logic perhaps you can explain why Octopus's Garden is listed under Apple Records too, this is owned by Startling Music Ltd. And I'm referring to the individual track, not Abbey Road [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350449639Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T18:57:03Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute. The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. The record labels only distribute albums and singles, not all of the entire Lennon/McCartney discography. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Furthermore, in your logic perhaps you can explain why Octopus's Garden is listed under Apple Records too, this is owned by Startling Music Ltd. And I'm referring to the individual track, not Abbey Road</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350448444Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T18:50:32Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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== New Article?? ==<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute. The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. The record labels only distribute albums and singles, not all of the entire Lennon/McCartney discography. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350448194Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T18:49:14Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
*Reporter: How do you account for your success?<br />
**Lennon: We have a press agent.<br />
In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Quite so; if people are motivated to make something of it, I think there's absolutely no harm in creating a new article just as Apepper has suggested, and seeing "where it will go" ... [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
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*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:This is about record labels, not music publishers. Apple, Parlophone and Capitol are record labels. Northern Songs, Maclen Music and Sony/ATV Music were/are music publishers. Apple is owned by The Beatles or their estates. Parlophone and Capitol are owned by EMI. Now do you get it? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 18:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Record labels only have rights to distribute, like Maclen Music, Northern Songs Ltd., The category 'Label' needs to be renamed because this is incorrect, it should be named 'owner' or 'copyright holdler'. At no point do Apple Records, Capitol Records or Parlophone Records own the songs, if anyone does then it is Apple Corps Ltd. or Northern Songs Ltd. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 18:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Long_and_Winding_Road&diff=350436377Talk:The Long and Winding Road2010-03-17T17:43:06Z<p>Paul McMarkney: </p>
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All attempts to do a Print Preview of this article's page (NOT this discussion page) on Mozilla at a display ratio other than "Shrink to Fit" cause Mozilla to crash. I don't know enough about HTML and web-design to know how to fix this. Perhaps someone else could fix what is wrong.<br />
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Suggest including this on the Beatles page or on a Beatles miscleaneous topics page.<br />
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:There are a bunch of articles about Beatles songs...they should probably go on their respective albums' articles though. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] 05:53, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't see a problem with well-done articles on particular, notable songs; care needs to be taken not to repeat too much of the information already present in the album or artist listing, though. [[User:Jgm|Jgm]] 15:44, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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This is a very good article, and I also see nothing wrong with articles on important and well-known songs, but this article, in my opinion, goes well beyond the scope of the song "The Long and Winding Road". Perhaps the information not directly related to the song could go on a separate [[breakup of the Beatles]] page? I'm sure a lot of other information could be added to such a page. Or else make a clear "Breakup" section in the [[History of the Beatles]] article, and transfer some of this information there? -[[User:R. fiend|R. fiend]] 16:07, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)<br />
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::I've done an edit with R.'s comments in mind; specifically I've tried to limit the material to the song, with just enough framing info for context. Much of what I cut out would be a valuable addition to the ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' article, I think, or, as R. suggests, the [[History of the Beatles]] article. I've also made some general structure and wording changes and copy edits and added some material from a primary source (Lewishon's book). There are still some awkward bits (ie. the explanation of the difference between the ''Billboard'' and ''Cashbox'' charts) that could use fixing.<br />
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To quote: "McCartney claimed that his longstanding dissatisfaction with the released version of "The Long and Winding Road" (and the entire Let It Be album) was the catalyst for his decision." <br />
But isn't a catalyst something that speeds a process up? How can longstanding dissatisfaction, thirty years or so, be a catalyst? [[User:Brendanfox|Brendanfox]] 04:07, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)<br />
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What were the other five reasons he cited in court to break up the Beatles? -[[User:Rwv37|Rwv37]] 05:38, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)<br />
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== OnStar commercial ==<br />
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This is kinda old, so it'll be a bit hard to verify, but I believe that an instrumental version was the background music for an [[OnStar]] commercial a few months ago ("few" is used loosely, as I don't know exactly when it was). It was the commercial where there were a whole bunch of kids (separately) telling about their various experiences with OnStar and how it saved their family members, etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does anyone even know what commercial I'm talking about? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 09:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== linking to copyvio ==<br />
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I have again removed external links from this article to material in violation of copyright, per #5 under the "Links to be used occasionally" section at [[WP:EL#Links to be used occasionally|Wikipedia:External links]]. Performances and transcriptions of lyrics are protected by copyright. Unless the owner of the copyright has placed the material on the web themselves, or approved its publication on some unofficial website, it should not be linked from Wikipedia. -- [[User:Mikeblas|Mikeblas]] 02:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Link rot ==<br />
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some of the citations are suffering from link rot, being new to wikia I did not continue further <notably reference 8> [[User:75.15.195.164|75.15.195.164]] 20:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthology 3 and Let It Be… Naked ==<br />
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The version on Anthology 3 is the same take which received Spector's overdubs, whereas the Let It Be Naked version is a different take, previously unreleased. This information is correctly stated on the [[Let It Be%E2%80%A6 Naked]] page. [[User:Sonitus|Sonitus]] 04:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Authority does not equal quality ==<br />
The following quote - and the article it is quoted from - is a prime reason why "quoting authorities" is simply not good enough to create a viable reference.<br />
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>The song takes the form of a piano-based ballad, with an unconventional structure and some of the most inventive and sophisticated chord changes heard in The Beatles' catalogue. The song's home key is in E-flat major but spends ample time in its relative minor, the key of C minor.[2]<br />
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To put it crudely, it's wack BS. The "unconventional structure" is Verse/Verse/Bridge/Verse/Repeat last verse.<br />
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The "sophisticated chord changes" are purely diatonic, with a couple of dominant seventh chords and a single altered bass (Ab chord over Bb bass), in one key. The only "relative minor" in the song is the first phrase of each verse, which is sung over a minor chord. Only in the most strict interpretation of a small part of the classical music tradition does a single minor chord define a minor tonality.<br />
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The rest of the "Let It Be" album is heavily influence by the Beatles early rock influences, so in the context of the album, it sounds sophisticated, but compared to the songwriting on Abbey Road, the White Album, - anything post-LSD, to be blunt - it is a simple, straightforward song. No key changes, no altered notes, no "jazz" chords, nothing special except Paul McCartney's ability to deploy such simple materials in an elegant, appropriate fashion.<br />
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Perhaps I'm not sufficiently bowing down to Pollack's authority, but his article in general reminds me of A.J. Weberman's obsessive projection into Dylan's music, more so than mainstream musical analysis.<br />
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I may not be as musically knowledgeable as you, but I had much the same reaction. I've always been intrigued by unusual song structures (I wrote a recent blog entry on the topic), and when I read those words in the article, I stopped short. I had to listen to the song again, and I found--as you did--that it has a perfectly standard structure consisting of verses, a bridge, and a short instrumental section substituting for a repeat of the bridge. I suppose one could argue that the verse itself has slightly irregular qualities (which might be what this critic was referring to). But "irregular" isn't the same as "unusual" or "exceptional." As you indicate, the song is nothing compared to the experimentation that characterized much of the later Beatles catalog. [[User:Marbehraglaim|marbeh raglaim]] 10:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Scoring ==<br />
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I'd be curious to know the exact scoring of the orchestra. I'm surprised to see no mention of a French horn, as several times it really sounds like that to me. The notes are far too high for a trombone, and too mellow (to my ears) for a trumpet. Perhaps a trumpet using a loose plunger or hat or something? Can't find much on the web, which doesn't prove much. [http://www.epinions.com/musc-review-3609-8713869-386BFACB-prod1 This] refers to a 36 piece orchestra plus vocalists, whereas our article makes it 34: 18+4+4+3+3+2 . [[User Talk:Stevage|Stevage]] 06:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Conflicting info ==<br />
In the intro, the article currently reads:<br />
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:It became The Beatles' '''33rd''' and last number-one song in the United States on June 13, 1970.<br />
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:On 13 June, it became The Beatles' '''twentieth''' and final number one single in America, according to Billboard magazine<br />
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Would somebody like to clarify this asap? I tried a quick google but I'm apparently incompitent (hence the mispelling of both incompetent and misspelling). Cheers, [[User:Rothery|Rothery]] 22:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC).<br />
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==Cleaning==<br />
This article needs a good clean with a stiff brush. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I have changed a few things. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 18:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I added a missing citation as request on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles]]. While doing so, I noticed that there were a few references to [http://www.beatles-discography.com Craig Cross' defunct website]. I think Cross took the website down when he decided to publish the book that is also referenced in this article and contains all the material that used to be on his site. I have the book, and I will fix the refs today or soon.<br />
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:The citations in this article are a bit of a mess. I prefer a single "Notes" section where the first reference to a book (for example) lists the complete information and subsequent references (perhaps to different pages in the book) use a shorter entry. Other people evidently like all the Notes entries to be short, and they add a References section that gives the full details. When I edit an article, I try to follow whichever method is already used on the page. In this article, both methods are used, which makes it hard to decide how to add new citations. In addition, the formatting is pretty sloppy. Rather than complain here, I'd prefer to just fix it, but the article has been getting a fair bit of attention lately and I don't want to step on any toes.<br />
:Anyway, for the short-term, I'll volunteer to fix the Cross website references, converting them to references to his book, but will await further comment by other editors before doing anything else.<br />
:[[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 16:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::You're right about the references being sloppy. You should go ahead and change them as you think fit, John. I must say it's refreshing to talk about references and the quality of them, and to have (hopefully) passed the POV, vandalism, unreferenced and supposition remarks phase in an article. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 13:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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(outdent)OK, part two. I cleaned up some of the citations, mostly Craig Cross stuff but others, too. There are still some problems:<br />
#One of the statements supported by the Cross web site (defunct) are not covered by the Cross book as far as I can tell. Evidently, the content of the book does not match the web site exactly, or some prior editor's interpretation of the Cross text doesn't match mine. In any case, I left that citation in place. It's the only one that remains as a link to Cross' site.<br />
#The Badman and Miles "Diary" sources/cites are a little confusing. They include published book elements (ISBN, etc.), but the cites are to online versions. Meanwhile, there are full "Notes" entries for both, and a "References" entry that seems to be for the Miles version, but has a different year, a different title, etc. I think the References entry should be removed.<br />
#The diary entries don't always support the assertions for which they are cited. For example, the article says "On the 1976 Wings Over the World Tour, where it was one of the few Beatles songs played, it was performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section", and the source is the Badman diary for 1975. If you actually go read that chapter, it says that McCartney performed the song on his 75/76 World Tour, but it says nothing about the being "performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section." So--that statement is unsupported unless someone has a different source.<br />
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So far, the more I look, the more issues I find. They're mostly minor stuff, but fixing some of them may result in article content changes. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 18:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:andreasegde, re: comments above about it being "refreshing to talk about references ...", I completely agree. I appreciate what you've done to clean up the article and I wish I had made that point above. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 13:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::There is an old English saying about "I wish I had...". The reply is, "But you ''will'' John, you ''will''", meaning that maybe you didn't do it in the past, but you will certainly do it in the future, which is a very nice compliment, and very positive. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 19:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== What is it about? ==<br />
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What's the song about? Seems to be interesting for me. Best --[[User:Gerhard Atze|Gerhard Atze]] ([[User talk:Gerhard Atze|talk]]) 14:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Brown vs. Bown ==<br />
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Assertions in the article are cited to Cross, and Cross attributes comments to balance engineer Pete ''Brown''. That's probably a mistake; the balance engineer was Pete ''Bown''. Does someone have another source for the comments so we can cite the proper name? &mdash; [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 04:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Beatles&diff=350436175Talk:The Beatles2010-03-17T17:42:01Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Individual song labels */ new section</p>
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== Capital T ==<br />
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Another thing I noticed (another relatively minor thing, really, but an FA ought to be polished when the opportunity arises) is that the word "the", as in "The Beatles", is always capitalized in the article. I fail to understand why this is necessary. It's true that the word "The" ''is'' part of the band's name, and should be capitalized when ''referring'' to the band's name (e.g., "The band once known as 'The Beetles' later became 'The Beatles'"). But when referring to the ''people'' rather than the name, the word "the" simply functions as a [[definite article]] and does not need to be capitalized. For example, one would not write, "And the next week, all of The four Beatles got together for..." Minus the capital "T", this would be a perfectly fine sentence, but the interjection of the optional modifier, "four", makes it clearer that the word "the", when referring to the band ''as a plurality of members'' rather than as a single entity or name, is not functioning as part of the band's name, but rather as a grammatical necessity. And, the article ''does'' refer to the band as a plurality of members, as is evidenced by the apostrophe placement in the possessive, "Beatles'". If the article were referring to the band as a single entity, it would say "Beatles's", and the possessive "'s" would add an extra (awkward) syllable. It's the difference between, "...and 'The Beatles' ''is'' the band's name" and "...and the Beatles ''are'' John, Paul, George, and Ringo". In the first phrase, "The" functions as part of the band's name. In the second phrase, the word "the" simply functions as a definite article, indicating that only a select few people are Beatles (as opposed to a non-restrictive construction like "...and Beatles are everywhere around us"). I know this all might sound nitpicky; however, because the article is so ''good'' overall, it could benefit from some refining of the "little things". [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 09:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The capital T has come up before. Not everyone agrees with it, but consensus was reached to use it and so other editors go along with it. Incidentally, it's a convention used by more sources than you might think. I don't personally agree with it but I accept the convention because consensus was reached about it in the past. There have been strong feelings expressed about it here and I would advise anyone against trying to argue the point or prove one way is right and the other wrong because this has proved complicated and fruitless in the past. But I think anyone should feel free to take a simple yes/no straw poll at any time to gauge current opinion about this or anything else. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 11:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::"The Beatles" and "Beatles" are registered trade marks owned by Apple Corps, Ltd. So there are legal reasons why the band is identified as "The Beatles." [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that the band ''per se'' should be identified as "The Beatles". But when talking about the members, i.e., about "more than one Beatle", the nominal "The" is dropped in favour of the functional "the". A comparison would be [[The Bahamas]]. As one entity--as the one focus of that article--it is indeed "The Bahamas". But when it's referred to as "the Commonwealth of the Bahamas"--the commonwealth of more than one 'Bahama'--there's not a capital "T" anywhere in sight. In the Beatles article, it's not always clear as to whether the band ''per se'' or the plurality of members is intended. But "Beatles'" is favoured over "Beatles's" as the possessive case, so I figure the article might as well be standardized by treating "the Beatles" as a plurality and, therefore, by keeping the "T" in lower-case. Honestly, this stuff is pretty subtle, and I certainly don't want to come across as a troll--especially a troll with [[WP:STICK|a stick]]. I just think that the/The Beatles deserve a flawless article--and I think this one is almost there, although I realize that the definition of "flawless" is subjective. Anyway, I'm willing to initiate a straw poll to see where things stand. I'm aware now of what the earlier consensus was, but I'd just like to see if it will remain in-place or might [[WP:CCC|change]] on account of anything I've said. So:<br />
[outdent] '''Straw poll''': Propose to switch most capital T's in "The Beatles" to lower-case t's. Obvious exceptions would be in the infobox, in the article's name, and where the word "The" begins a sentence. Other exceptions would be where a a capital T appears in a direct quotation, where "The Beatles" as the band's ''name'' is referred to, <s>and wherever the band clearly is being referred to as a single entity rather than as a plurality of members</s> [struck through potentially ambiguous clause].<br />
*'''Support''' for all the reasons I've stated above. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Comment''' We have too many straw polls on this talk-page.—[[User:Indopug|indopug]] ([[User talk:Indopug|talk]]) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' as "The Beatles" is the name of the band as well as a registered trade mark. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Support''' - this accords with the practice of most sources I've seen. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 16:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
*'''Oppose''' - this has been discussed quite recently. The band were called "The Beatles". We should use that name except where we use "Beatles" to mean "members of The Beatles". eg "It is well known that The Beatles were a band; John and Paul were the Beatles who wrote most of the songs." [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 14:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I debunked the false trademark-based argument a long time ago.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]])<br />
:No you did NOT debunk the argument. It is proven by several entries in the UK Intellectual Property Office web site such as at [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270404] and [http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=1270409] among other entries found on the UK IPO web site. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]])<br />
::Although this surely isn't your point, the UK IPO web site would actually support the argument that the band's name should always appear as follows: THE BEATLES. As in: THE BEATLES were from England, though THE BEATLES visited other places. You say that the use of capital t is "proven" by this web site; but actually what's "proven" (and I mean this facetiously, as nothing on this subject is actually proven by this web site) is that all of the letters should be capitalized. Now, if the "argument" that is supposedly "proven" by the web site is that "the" is "part of the name" and therefore (and here comes the big assumption...) ... and therefore has to be capitalized along with the rest of the name, then please note that the Beatles' trademark registration actually records a number of different marks, among them just plain old "BEATLES" without the article. If you're going to use the web site to "prove" that "the" is part of the name, then how do you account for the presence of just plain old "BEATLES" sans article? Maybe I missed it (and if I did, please point it out), but no one has ever cogently addressed the points I'm making here, preferring instead simply to shout that "the UK IPO web site PROVES" blah, blah, blah.[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 03:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and about this "consensus" I hear was achieved on the use of cap t (a consensus so elusive a couple of years ago), it might be nice to have a link to the archived discussion where this was achieved instead of this slight rehashing that appears above. Can anyone drag it out? (I'm curious about what "consensus" consisted of the last go round. Also, I got my hand slapped when I tried to apply what I thought was the rule, i.e., that there wasn't a rule because there wasn't a consensus and that therefore editors would do whatever they saw fit to do.)[[User:McTavidge|McTavidge]] ([[User talk:McTavidge|talk]]) 04:04, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm curious too about the original discussion. As a copyeditor, I can't think of a good reason to capitalize the T. Articles are, as a rule, lowercase in the context of a sentence, even when they are part of the official title of something (the New York Times, etc.) The copyright argument is clearly wrong, as the books I've read on the Beatles (by major publishers) do not capitalize the T. I'm also the author of a book on John Lennon, and the "the" was not capitalized in our book either. Anyway, it's pointless to argue if it's already been settled...just wanted to add my two cents. [[User:Juniperjoline1|Juniperjoline1]] ([[User talk:Juniperjoline1|talk]]) 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== McCartney and keyboards ==<br />
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I think that, at the start of the article, keyboards should be added to McCartney. I understand that we can't include every instrument a "beatle" plays but McCartney's keyboards are very present in many of their songs be it piano (let it be, drive my car, good day sunshine...), mellotron (strawberry fields) or others (great use in Abbey Road).<br />
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I've been thinking about something George Harrison said in the Anthology; that comedy was a big part of the Beatles "thing". Do people think it's worth an article? The Beatlemania article doesn't mention it and I recall that the Beatles wit was one of the things that seemed unusual - most band members in the early 1960s, to be honest, seemed pretty dim - how times change :) [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 19:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, I recall McCartney saying that comedy was going to become an important factor in their music. Worth looking into, I think. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 22:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I'll start looking through my Beatle books; some things are coming to mind though:<br />
*Lennon at the Royal Variety Show asking the audience to "rattle their jewellery"<br />
*The Beatles on the Morecambe & Wise show.<br />
*Beatles press conference at JFK.<br />
*The Beatles being described as the new Marx Brothers after Hard Day's Night.<br />
*Mark Lewisohn has several quotes from radio & TV appearances, including George being asked for a good Earthy name for a band - he suggested "sod".<br />
Any more??, anyone!<br />
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::I’ve been trying to find some Beatle quotes that would confirm this, as yet, to no avail. As far as their music reflects this, I would suggest songs like: Drive My Car, Taxman, Norwegian Wood, Doctor Robert, Yellow Submarine, Bungalow Bill, Lovely Rita, Piggies, Mean Mr. Mustard / Polythene Pam, Her Majesty. A dark sarcasm rather than slapstick that seemed to work well in their song writing. But interestingly, their film, Magical Mystery Tour, a barometer of their humour at that time and which was created in much the same way that they went about writing and recording their songs, was considered a disaster. I think they believed too much in their own hype by then, and had overstretched themselves. Certainly, some of their old press conferences are a little embarrassing to watch now, and aren’t funny at all. Perhaps others have suggestions here?--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 12:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If comedy was indeed a big part of the Beatles "thing" (and I would agree that it was), shouldn't it really permeate the existing articles rather than being a separate article? I don't think the humour is separable from the individuals, their songwriting and their performance and it would be artifical to try and make that separation. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::My plan is try a trial section and see how long it gets; if it's not too long, it could be part of the main Beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 12:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
{{outdent|:::::}}I think in many matters the principle Bluewave cites is an important one, but when it comes to wit and humour, recounting these incidents all too often simply results in a collection of non-notable trivia. Enjoyable trivia, but trivia nonetheless. Take this extract from the JFK scene:<br />
*Reporter: Look at this camera, Ringo! Will you do it once more?<br />
**Starr: I haven't stopped doing it for the first time!<br />
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In a book several hundred pages long, those enjoyable cameos are appropriate; but I think in a Wikipedia article, which must summarize an entire history in a reasonable space, they are not. I think a new article would be the right approach, if it can be done in such a way that it doesn't simply end up as a non-notable collection of trivia. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 13:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fair point. I see what you mean. Nevertheless, I think that particularly the section about their songwriting could include at least a mention of humour, with some examples. However, I don't really feel knowledgable enough to make a big contribution to it myself, so I'll happily go along with the decisions of those who do! [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...and just to add to Patthedog's list of songs, surely Glass Onion was a joke at the expense of people who over-analysed their songs and were always looking for hidden meanings. Also, at the time of it's popularity, I remember my friends and I finding Day Tripper quite funny, with the sly way The Beatles almost-but-not-quite sang "she's a prick-teaser". And surely some of the backwards lyrics hidden in the songs were jokes. [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think we need particularly important occasions; the JFK news conference & Royal Variety appearance come to mind, maybe the Apple launch conference. [[Special:Contributions/212.84.96.84|212.84.96.84]] ([[User talk:212.84.96.84|talk]]) 14:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't have a copy of the Anthology CDs to check, but isn't there some studio banter and stuff like John singing in silly voices to take the piss out of one of Macca's more sentimental songs? [[User:Bluewave|Bluewave]] ([[User talk:Bluewave|talk]]) 10:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you do start a new article (say, [[The wit of The Beatles]]) I suggest you leave lyrics and films out of it, or there's a danger of shoehorning several things into a box labelled "Beatles wit/humour/comedy" where they don't really all fit. Press conference repartee; certain song lyrics; humour in Beatles films; although these have the four Beatles and their "funniness" as the common factor, they are not really one and the same topic. Some of this stuff really does belong in existing articles. Got [[WP:reliable sources]] on "Glass Onion" lyrics? Improve the "[[Glass Onion]]" article. Comedy in Beatles films? Expand [[The Beatles in film]] if needed (it already mentions resemblance to the Marx Brothers). [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::It’s generally accepted that they had a collective charm that manifested itself as humour, and which was picked up by George Martin even before he noticed their musical talent at their EMI audition. George Harrison’s famous “I don’t like your tie” remark was probably the reason he decided to sign them! Also, without doubt they charmed the socks off the really tough New York press, who had initially turned up to bring these “upstarts” down a peg or two, only to find, just like Martin had, that “sparks flew off them”. So their sense of humour did make a significant difference to the possible outcome. We know that comedy was especially important to Lennon , who greatly admired The Goons, but his on stage spastic impressions were horribly crass, and oddly tolerated at the time (they wouldn’t be now, that‘s for certain). There are stories associated with all of these incidents which aren’t (I don‘t think) in the other articles, that could be elaborated upon. “Finger pie” and “tit, tit, tit” maybe considered mere vulgarities, but while the BBC searched for drug references, The Beatles giggled about sneaking these, and as stated above, other schoolboy smut, unnoticed into their songs. Would there be any harm in doing as Apepper has suggested, and just seeing where this could go? It could always be removed later if it’s fruitless, but I think even then, it might produce some interesting material that could be assimilated elsewhere.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 15:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::So, Apepper, you have the green light to go ahead and create your trial section. I’m sure we’ll all contribute to it.--[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 11:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...and don't forget to put an update on this talk page so we know where to find the new article once you've created it. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::...I'm starting work(!) If I don't get too many distractions, I hope to have something by next week - I'll put a link here when it's ready for the wiki-elves to start their magic. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 13:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::...I've written around a page of A4 so far; I've covered obtaining a recording contract and their early TV appearances in the UK. My copy of Shout by Phillip Norman has fallen to pieces so if someone has a copy to provide references for a couple of quotes, I'd be very grateful - one describes their performance on Thank Your Lucky Stars, the other is Lennon's joke about "rattling your jewellery" - rather surprisingly, I can't find the full quote in Lewisohn's books or Hunter Davies's biography. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC) I have found a reference to the Rattling Jewellery quote in Hunter Davies, so if someone has the description of the Thank your lucky stars appearance, I'd be jolly grateful...[[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've started the article as a trial on my page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apepper/The_Influence_of_The_Beatles'_Wit]]. I don't quite understand the ref error reported - I copied the reference style from the existing beatles article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I took the liberty of fixing the refs for you. If you do a diff from before my edits through my last edit, you'll see the changes. They were mostly minor corrections. The biggest issue was you didn't have {{tl|Reflist}} in the article. — [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 19:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:...Thanks - that would have taken me ages to work out. I'll try and do some more tomorrow... the first USA visit has plenty to offer. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
Lots more added to the article; origins of wit section added - more to be done there - and sections on Hard Day's Night and Arriving in the USA. I don't know much about their US TV appearances - did they talk much during numbers?<br />
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Next on my list is how playing in Hamburg and the rougher parts of Liverpool forced them to develop charm - to talk their way out of trouble, apart from anything else. I have a George Martin reference for that, but I'd like it as a quote from one of the band if possible. I'm considering adding something about their appearance on Morecambe & Wise - it was the Beatles favourite TV appearance, it's fairly well documented - as they were accompanied by Michael Braun who was writing an early biography and it's ''Morecambe & Wise'' - with the Beatles on the show, you had probably the six most loved entertainers in UK history together! [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 18:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've added a paragraph on the Morecambe & Wise show and a section on the printed media; I've added some "fact" tags for some quotes which are in Shout!; I don't have a copy any more so if someone has one, I'd be jolly grateful if they could fix up the quotes. I also have a memory of Paul telling Mark Lewisohn that Morecambe & Wise was his favourite TV appearance, but I can't find the quote - I've tried the Complete Recording and Complete Chronicle, again if someone can remember where this was, I'd be grateful.<br />
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I think that all that remains to add is a section on how stopping touring meant they didn't have to try and be funny every time they were interviewed. I have a memory of the end of touring changing the ex-touring Beatles to "smiling if they want to" Beatles. I can't find that quote either! But hopefully over the next few days... [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 15:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I've nibbled a bullet and created the article as a Wikipedia [[The_Beatles_Wit]]. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Since other users besides you edited the WIP page as well, shouldn't it be moved instead of copy-pasted, for copyright reasons? ([[WP:Copying within Wikipedia]]) &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I've removed the trial copy and replaced it with a link to the main article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The article has been marked as candidate for deletion as it is said to contain original research. You can see the criticism at the top of the article source, the discussion about deletion is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Beatles_Wit] I disagree with the claim - it seems clear from the quotations from the band members, George Martin and others that the Beatles' wit was unusual and played an important part in their success - they may not have even been given a recording contract without it, it was important in their acceptance by the American press. I would guess the place to debate the keep/delete is on the previous link. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 23:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
The article has been deleted :(! My next plan is to look at the main article to see if I can add something there - re-reading George Martin book, it seems to imply that the Beatles charm and wit was what got them signed; the music wasn't that impressive. That seems to me to be a worthwhile fact to note in the article. [[User:Apepper|Apepper]] ([[User talk:Apepper|talk]]) 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I thought that you did a good job, probably as good as it was going to get. The problem was trying to research it properly, all those little anecdotes tucked away in many books. You’re right to continue with it within the main article I think, and maybe it will take root there. Sorry I wasn’t able to help. --[[User:Patthedog|Patthedog]] ([[User talk:Patthedog|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Opportunities for commonality ==<br />
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Ladies and gentlemen! From the producers of such all-time <s>favorites</s>favourites as "the/The", "was/were" and "group/band", the latest saga has now been officially released: "ize/ise". British dictionaries confirm that both spellings are part of British English&mdash;quite unlike, say, "favorite" or "color"&mdash;and some of them give "ize" as the preferred or primary British English spelling of most or all of the words in question. Personally I do not mind which spelling is used&mdash;guided by the aforementioned references, we should consider them equally acceptable&mdash;but I simply appeal to my fellow editors to consider the principle behind [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality]], and to therefore accept the more globally used spelling when it is indeed legitimate British English. In addition, as a result of the recent edits, the article now contains quotations whose spelling has been changed from "ize" to "ise", disregarding [[MOS:QUOTE]]. My attempts to point all this out via edit summaries have so far failed, and my edit to restore the previous version of the article was simply reverted, twice, by two different editors. I am not prepared to edit-war over this, and, as I said, I don't have a strong preference (unlike some, it seems) for one or other of these two British English spellings, but it does not seem appropriate to allow a personal preference to deform quotes. Concerning those instances that are not in quotes, I appeal to others to overcome personal preferences in the light of the cited principle of [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] in this global encyclopedia we are all working on together. Should this develop into a debate over what British dictionaries say, we will need to make a clear distinction between preferences (which even dictionaries admit to) and the simple fact of whether a word appears in British English (in contrast with such things as "color" and "favorite" which most certainly do not). Enjoy! [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:My view is, the article clearly should be in British English. Although some dictionaries do say that "ize" is acceptable in Br Eng, it still strikes many people as American in flavo(u)r and is not nearly as common as "ise". I believe it is therefore simpler and less controversial to use "ise." Whether or not "ise" is less "globally used" is not relevant in my opinion as to whether it should be used in this article.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 13:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::This is a British article about a British subject matter which happens to be of global importance. But it is still about a British subject so "-ise" must be used. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 13:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::PL290's point was that "-ize" is British too, so your argument doesn't really make sense. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Exactly. The current spelling is perfectly proper British English, and should be maintained on the basis of Wikipedia's well-established preference for both [[Wikipedia:Mos#Opportunities_for_commonality|commonality]] and [[Wikipedia:MOS#Stability_of_articles|stability]] in matters of style. The change currently being advocated brings unnecessary controversy to the article and absolutely no benefit to the reader. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I appreciate that [[MOS:QUOTE]] says original spelling should be preserved but it is just a guideline and it is wrong to say as you did in your edit summary that it is "impermissible in any circumstance" to go against it. It's a bit of a red herring anyway, as of the ten examples of "ize" in the article, only two are part of quotes! Also, I believe the article was originally in the "ise" form, not the other way round.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 21:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While Dictionaries may well say that both are permissible, the common spelling is with the "'''''s'''''". The argument against ''commonality'' is that "ize" (outside of some specific examples) is that it really is not common within the UK, and certainly is rarely used in instruments of record. Since this is an encyclopedia, it should then conform to the highest standard of the agreed English variant - and that would seem to standardise on using the "ise" spelling. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Agree with "-ise". Also, when I reverted one of PL290's edits, I cited [[WP:RETAIN]] in my edit summary. I was thinking in particular of the phrase, "...the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used". This article has been around for a long time now, with the -ise spelling. I don't think we should or need to make mass changes. Also, "-ise" is the more commonly used spelling in Britain, so [[WP:ENGVAR]] would also apply. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Ringo/Best/White ==<br />
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I wrote '''referenced''' concise, short, material, that keeps getting undone for what appears no reason. <br />
* George Martin did not complain about Best's drumming - infatual, so removed. References given. <br />
* Martin wanted an experienced studio sessions drummer who knew the studio ways - as was the norm then. This was not mentioned, I did and its is relevant.<br />
* It implied that Best was fired because of Martin's say so - infactual. <br />
* The Writing style is fine and flows. As a note: Avoid interjections as it breaks up the reading. Wiki is full of it. Read The Elements of Style by Struck & White. <br />
* Ringo was 2nd choice drummer over Tommy Hutch - fact and '''very''' relevant.<br />
* White played on two records - relevant, so it was mentioned.<br />
* Ringo, Best and White played one song - 3 versions. All eventually released - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best recorded in the studio The Beatles first hit, 'Love Me Do' - Relevant. Which was also released over 30 years later - not mentioned as too much detail.<br />
* Best was fired in controversial circumstances - mentioned. George Harrison got a black eye because of it - not mentioned,as too much detail. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liverpool-8-boy|contribs]]) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:I'll only comment on the one item for now: the issue of Starr being second choice is only sourced by one dubious source. I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. It appears to be mainly a claim by Hutch himself, which makes the claim rather suspect given the lack of other sources. Perhaps this is some revisionism on his part or is based on his interpretation of events (i.e. he was asked to fill in until Ringo was available, but his version of the story gives him greater standing). In any case, addition of this kind of information would require much better sourcing as [[WP:BLP]] very much applies here. As for style, we follow [[WP:STYLE]] and there is a specific style in particular for featured article-level writing. Please leave the snooty "read Struck and White" lecturing out of this. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">talk</FONT></b>]] 12:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Bill Harry was founder of Mersey Beat magazine and its editor and a reporter as well. He was at art college with John Lennon - a friend. If anyone knows it, Bill does. I would not call Bill "dubious" in any way whatsoever, and would regard that as a sneer towards Bill, who is highly respected. Bill would not put in a book what was not true. If it is alleged he would say so. He knew just about everything that was going on from the inside in the city's music scene at the time, continuously writing in his note book. Since, Tommy Hutch has repeated that he was offered the job by Epstein. Hutch is now/was a property developer in Liverpool and shuns the limelight. He filled in the three booking as he was on Epstein's books. Epstein almost certainly offered him the job because he was on his books, good and he had a band about to do studio recordings, and he had played with The Beatles previously and knew them all. Pete Best is contactable via his web site. It might be worth asking if Tommy was offered his job. The reason for Best's hasty removal is still controversial - he was never given a reason. Most believe it was because of his mother [[Mona Best]], who was the defacto manager before Epstein and was still interfering - being referred to as "that Woman" by Epstein. She also had a 2 week old baby to The Beatles road manager Aspinall when Best was fired. All a bit messy. Only one man alive now probably knows the real reasons, and he probably didn't know Hutch had been offered the job, as they just wanted Best out and any decent drummer in. As for style, Strunk & White should be adopted - concise and flows. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*"Infactual" is not a word.<br />
*Martin did complain about Best's drumming. This is well known and well sourced.<br />
*The reverted edit added nothing to the passage about Martin's desire for a session drummer other than the superfluous, imprecise verbiage "which was normal procedure at the time".<br />
*The word "writing" is not capitalized when it appears in the middle of a properly written sentence. The word "intejections" is plural and takes a plural pronoun ("they", not it") in good writing. ''The Elements of Style'' is the title of a book and is italicized. The coauthors of that book are Strunk and White. ... And someone thinks they have a single word to say about "style"?<br />
*The Tommy Hutchinson bit of trivia is completely misrepresented. He filled in for a couple of gigs after Best was let go and while Starr played his final shows with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, to whom he gave three days' notice (Andy Babiuk, ''Beatles Gear'' [2002], p. 69). Neither of the most recent major histories of The Beatles' career issued by mainstream publishers--the new edition of MacDonald's ''Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties'' and Gould's ''Can't Buy Me Love: The Beatles, Britain and America''--says a single word about Hutchinson. "''Very'' relevant"? What a joke.<br />
*It is already mentioned that White played on two records--and mentioned without terribly poor writing ("wholly drumming").<br />
*We have an entire article devoted to "[[Love Me Do]]" for those who are interested in the details of its recording history. The fact that Best played on a version of it that went unreleased for thirty years is obviously trivial in the context of an encyclopedia article that must summarize the band's entire career. <br />
There is one point here clearly relevant to improving the article:<br />
*It was the Starr version of "Love Me Do" that was released as a single (see Gould, ''Can't Buy Me Love'', pp. 135–36). The article currently implies incorrectly that it was the White version.<br />
There is one other point worthy of consideration:<br />
*Some Beatles/Best fans were very displeased by his firing (to the point that Harrison did receive a black eye in a subsequent "punch-up" at The Cavern [''The Rough Guide to Rock'', p. 72]). It's arguably worth indicating that. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
Liverpool-8-boy, Bill Harry was a close friend of Best's and is hardly a neutral on the subject. You should probably read [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]. Your edits are in danger of coming across as a Wikipedia equivalent of those "Pete forever, Ringo never" Cavern Club chants.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 16:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Casbah Coffee Club & Mona Best ==<br />
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This article doesn't even mention [[The Casbah Coffee Club]] or [[Mona Best]], which and who were so influential in The Beatles early years. The coffee bar was given Grade II listed building status by English Heritage. [[User:Liverpool-8-boy|Liverpool-8-boy]] ([[User talk:Liverpool-8-boy|talk]]) 14:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We have entire articles on [[The Quarrymen]] and [[Pete Best]] to cover these matters. Mona Best was not, in fact, "so influential" that it is necessary to mention her in this article, which must cover the band's entire career. For instance, her name appears a total of three times in Gould's 660-page book--that is hardly the sort of attention that indicates that her inclusion in this overview article would be appropriate or productive. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 16:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The Beatles were together as teenagers. Their influential and where they frequented are important. The Casbah was influential, so much English Heritage slapped an order on it. The Casbah needs at least a sentence as it is important in the timeline. Then people can click to that page if they wish. Mona Best was virtually the manager of the band, so worthy of a mention. Well Gould missed some important bits out didn't he? [[Special:Contributions/79.65.68.217|79.65.68.217]] ([[User talk:79.65.68.217|talk]]) 17:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::No, he didn't. But he had 660 pages to work with. This article does not. The ''encyclopedia'' does, however: read more about these delightful little bits of history in [[The Quarrymen]].—[[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 18:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Charts Statistics ==<br />
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Group The Beatles obtained 66 singles number 1 all over the world : 64 singles number 1 during their career - 1962/1970 - and two others after their careers <br />
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== Sales Of Remastered Beatles Albums ==<br />
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[http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jFtZEAlVac1aJXdaP_5MAK7muiow]<br />
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'''A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months.'''<br />
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--[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The link you provided is to an article that is no longer available. Do you have another source? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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No, immediately i don't have another source. I'll give you another source when I find. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Some information : The Beatles have broken multiple chart records around the world following the 9-9-09 CD release [[http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/who-says-cd-sales-are-dead-remastered-beatles-sell-225-million-in-2-weeks.html]]. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 12:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ten days ago and '''six''' months after the 09.09.09, i've posted a link : < A spokesman said the firm had sold around 15 million remastered Beatles albums in recent months ><br />
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Less than 24 hours after this was no longer available. But now, I found another link : [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD9EG1FJ00] < For example, 14 remastered albums from The Beatles catalog sold 13 million copies worldwide in the '''four''' months after they were released last September.> Four months after = 13 million....Six months after = around 15 million... it seems credible. --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 01:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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< The Beatles sold 17 million remastered CDs last year.> [http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/11/pink-floyd-wins-download-case-whos-next/] --[[User:Roujan|Roujan]] ([[User talk:Roujan|talk]]) 08:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardized discography ==<br />
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Since the Beatles discography was standardized by EMI, I do not think that we should favor the original British discography. Although the members of the band considered those albums definitive, the British discography is no more "official" than the American discography and neither is as official as the standardized discography, which is endorsed by EMI. I propose that we list the thirteen studio albums that EMI considers the band's definitive discography, including "Magical Mystery Tour," and follow the record company's lead. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leroyinc |Leroyinc ]] ([[User talk:Leroyinc |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leroyinc |contribs]]) 17:41:48, 8 March 2010</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><br />
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:Please refer to the archives, where this has been discussed before. EMI's position is commercial, whereas WP's is encyclopedic. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page loading efficiency and style ==<br />
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I recently edited this page in a minor way and it took more than 30 seconds between the time I hit the "Save page" button and the time I saw the resulting page. Ouch. The vast majority of this time was spent inside the Wikipedia servers (not inside my browser or doing network transmission); this can be determined by reading the little comment at the bottom of the HTML, for example, "<code><nowiki><!-- Served by srv174 in 24.185 secs. --></nowiki></code>".<br />
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A major reason this page takes a long time to load to the use of the standard Wikipedia citation templates such as {{tl|cite web}}. Recently developed faster & smaller [[Vancouver system]] templates such as {{tl|vcite web}} would make the page significantly faster to generate (roughly 40% faster in my tests) as well as significantly smaller in terms of the HTML generated (the resulting page is 19% smaller, in terms of number of bytes of HTML). Let's use them here; they're already in use in ''[[Autism]]'', ''[[Wildfire]]'', etc., and have resulted in major savings both for time and for the size of the generated HTML. You can see the proposed change {{diff|The Beatles|348810406|348791627|here}} and the proposed new version {{oldid|The Beatles|348810406|here}}. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Impressive&mdash;sounds similar to the improvement you brought to [[Elvis Presley]] by making the same change there. It sounds as though we should now move [[The Beatles]] over to these newer {{tl|vcite web}} etc. templates, within the {{tl|sfn}} framework we have. Similarly [[John Lennon]]. I'd like to hear John Cardinal's view before we take the plunge on these two, in case he's aware of any aspects that haven't been discussed yet. [[User:PL290|PL290]] ([[User talk:PL290|talk]]) 22:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Looks like it's the way to go. Worked a charm on Ellie. [[User:DocKino|DocKino]] ([[User talk:DocKino|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pitchfork? ==<br />
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Why bother mentioning what Pitchfork thinks of Revolver? Pitchfork was founded almost 30 years after Revolver was released. Surely criticism of the album at the time has more historical value. To the extent that music criticism has any value at all. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.186.173|124.170.186.173]] ([[User talk:124.170.186.173|talk]]) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Individual song labels ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple, Parlophone and/or Capitol Records. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies whilst the copyright is owned by EMI, therefore these labels have no relationship with the individual tracks. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Long_and_Winding_Road&diff=350435376Talk:The Long and Winding Road2010-03-17T17:37:34Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Label */</p>
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Suggest including this on the Beatles page or on a Beatles miscleaneous topics page.<br />
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:There are a bunch of articles about Beatles songs...they should probably go on their respective albums' articles though. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] 05:53, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't see a problem with well-done articles on particular, notable songs; care needs to be taken not to repeat too much of the information already present in the album or artist listing, though. [[User:Jgm|Jgm]] 15:44, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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This is a very good article, and I also see nothing wrong with articles on important and well-known songs, but this article, in my opinion, goes well beyond the scope of the song "The Long and Winding Road". Perhaps the information not directly related to the song could go on a separate [[breakup of the Beatles]] page? I'm sure a lot of other information could be added to such a page. Or else make a clear "Breakup" section in the [[History of the Beatles]] article, and transfer some of this information there? -[[User:R. fiend|R. fiend]] 16:07, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)<br />
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::I've done an edit with R.'s comments in mind; specifically I've tried to limit the material to the song, with just enough framing info for context. Much of what I cut out would be a valuable addition to the ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' article, I think, or, as R. suggests, the [[History of the Beatles]] article. I've also made some general structure and wording changes and copy edits and added some material from a primary source (Lewishon's book). There are still some awkward bits (ie. the explanation of the difference between the ''Billboard'' and ''Cashbox'' charts) that could use fixing.<br />
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To quote: "McCartney claimed that his longstanding dissatisfaction with the released version of "The Long and Winding Road" (and the entire Let It Be album) was the catalyst for his decision." <br />
But isn't a catalyst something that speeds a process up? How can longstanding dissatisfaction, thirty years or so, be a catalyst? [[User:Brendanfox|Brendanfox]] 04:07, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)<br />
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==Break up reasons==<br />
What were the other five reasons he cited in court to break up the Beatles? -[[User:Rwv37|Rwv37]] 05:38, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)<br />
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== OnStar commercial ==<br />
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This is kinda old, so it'll be a bit hard to verify, but I believe that an instrumental version was the background music for an [[OnStar]] commercial a few months ago ("few" is used loosely, as I don't know exactly when it was). It was the commercial where there were a whole bunch of kids (separately) telling about their various experiences with OnStar and how it saved their family members, etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does anyone even know what commercial I'm talking about? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 09:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== linking to copyvio ==<br />
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I have again removed external links from this article to material in violation of copyright, per #5 under the "Links to be used occasionally" section at [[WP:EL#Links to be used occasionally|Wikipedia:External links]]. Performances and transcriptions of lyrics are protected by copyright. Unless the owner of the copyright has placed the material on the web themselves, or approved its publication on some unofficial website, it should not be linked from Wikipedia. -- [[User:Mikeblas|Mikeblas]] 02:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Link rot ==<br />
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some of the citations are suffering from link rot, being new to wikia I did not continue further <notably reference 8> [[User:75.15.195.164|75.15.195.164]] 20:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthology 3 and Let It Be… Naked ==<br />
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The version on Anthology 3 is the same take which received Spector's overdubs, whereas the Let It Be Naked version is a different take, previously unreleased. This information is correctly stated on the [[Let It Be%E2%80%A6 Naked]] page. [[User:Sonitus|Sonitus]] 04:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Authority does not equal quality ==<br />
The following quote - and the article it is quoted from - is a prime reason why "quoting authorities" is simply not good enough to create a viable reference.<br />
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>The song takes the form of a piano-based ballad, with an unconventional structure and some of the most inventive and sophisticated chord changes heard in The Beatles' catalogue. The song's home key is in E-flat major but spends ample time in its relative minor, the key of C minor.[2]<br />
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To put it crudely, it's wack BS. The "unconventional structure" is Verse/Verse/Bridge/Verse/Repeat last verse.<br />
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The "sophisticated chord changes" are purely diatonic, with a couple of dominant seventh chords and a single altered bass (Ab chord over Bb bass), in one key. The only "relative minor" in the song is the first phrase of each verse, which is sung over a minor chord. Only in the most strict interpretation of a small part of the classical music tradition does a single minor chord define a minor tonality.<br />
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The rest of the "Let It Be" album is heavily influence by the Beatles early rock influences, so in the context of the album, it sounds sophisticated, but compared to the songwriting on Abbey Road, the White Album, - anything post-LSD, to be blunt - it is a simple, straightforward song. No key changes, no altered notes, no "jazz" chords, nothing special except Paul McCartney's ability to deploy such simple materials in an elegant, appropriate fashion.<br />
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Perhaps I'm not sufficiently bowing down to Pollack's authority, but his article in general reminds me of A.J. Weberman's obsessive projection into Dylan's music, more so than mainstream musical analysis.<br />
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[[User:24.17.180.126|24.17.180.126]] 09:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I may not be as musically knowledgeable as you, but I had much the same reaction. I've always been intrigued by unusual song structures (I wrote a recent blog entry on the topic), and when I read those words in the article, I stopped short. I had to listen to the song again, and I found--as you did--that it has a perfectly standard structure consisting of verses, a bridge, and a short instrumental section substituting for a repeat of the bridge. I suppose one could argue that the verse itself has slightly irregular qualities (which might be what this critic was referring to). But "irregular" isn't the same as "unusual" or "exceptional." As you indicate, the song is nothing compared to the experimentation that characterized much of the later Beatles catalog. [[User:Marbehraglaim|marbeh raglaim]] 10:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Scoring ==<br />
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I'd be curious to know the exact scoring of the orchestra. I'm surprised to see no mention of a French horn, as several times it really sounds like that to me. The notes are far too high for a trombone, and too mellow (to my ears) for a trumpet. Perhaps a trumpet using a loose plunger or hat or something? Can't find much on the web, which doesn't prove much. [http://www.epinions.com/musc-review-3609-8713869-386BFACB-prod1 This] refers to a 36 piece orchestra plus vocalists, whereas our article makes it 34: 18+4+4+3+3+2 . [[User Talk:Stevage|Stevage]] 06:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Conflicting info ==<br />
In the intro, the article currently reads:<br />
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:It became The Beatles' '''33rd''' and last number-one song in the United States on June 13, 1970.<br />
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Then later it reads:<br />
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:On 13 June, it became The Beatles' '''twentieth''' and final number one single in America, according to Billboard magazine<br />
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Would somebody like to clarify this asap? I tried a quick google but I'm apparently incompitent (hence the mispelling of both incompetent and misspelling). Cheers, [[User:Rothery|Rothery]] 22:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC).<br />
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==Cleaning==<br />
This article needs a good clean with a stiff brush. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I have changed a few things. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 18:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I added a missing citation as request on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles]]. While doing so, I noticed that there were a few references to [http://www.beatles-discography.com Craig Cross' defunct website]. I think Cross took the website down when he decided to publish the book that is also referenced in this article and contains all the material that used to be on his site. I have the book, and I will fix the refs today or soon.<br />
::''BUT''...<br />
:The citations in this article are a bit of a mess. I prefer a single "Notes" section where the first reference to a book (for example) lists the complete information and subsequent references (perhaps to different pages in the book) use a shorter entry. Other people evidently like all the Notes entries to be short, and they add a References section that gives the full details. When I edit an article, I try to follow whichever method is already used on the page. In this article, both methods are used, which makes it hard to decide how to add new citations. In addition, the formatting is pretty sloppy. Rather than complain here, I'd prefer to just fix it, but the article has been getting a fair bit of attention lately and I don't want to step on any toes.<br />
:Anyway, for the short-term, I'll volunteer to fix the Cross website references, converting them to references to his book, but will await further comment by other editors before doing anything else.<br />
:[[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 16:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::You're right about the references being sloppy. You should go ahead and change them as you think fit, John. I must say it's refreshing to talk about references and the quality of them, and to have (hopefully) passed the POV, vandalism, unreferenced and supposition remarks phase in an article. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 13:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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(outdent)OK, part two. I cleaned up some of the citations, mostly Craig Cross stuff but others, too. There are still some problems:<br />
#One of the statements supported by the Cross web site (defunct) are not covered by the Cross book as far as I can tell. Evidently, the content of the book does not match the web site exactly, or some prior editor's interpretation of the Cross text doesn't match mine. In any case, I left that citation in place. It's the only one that remains as a link to Cross' site.<br />
#The Badman and Miles "Diary" sources/cites are a little confusing. They include published book elements (ISBN, etc.), but the cites are to online versions. Meanwhile, there are full "Notes" entries for both, and a "References" entry that seems to be for the Miles version, but has a different year, a different title, etc. I think the References entry should be removed.<br />
#The diary entries don't always support the assertions for which they are cited. For example, the article says "On the 1976 Wings Over the World Tour, where it was one of the few Beatles songs played, it was performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section", and the source is the Badman diary for 1975. If you actually go read that chapter, it says that McCartney performed the song on his 75/76 World Tour, but it says nothing about the being "performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section." So--that statement is unsupported unless someone has a different source.<br />
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So far, the more I look, the more issues I find. They're mostly minor stuff, but fixing some of them may result in article content changes. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 18:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:andreasegde, re: comments above about it being "refreshing to talk about references ...", I completely agree. I appreciate what you've done to clean up the article and I wish I had made that point above. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 13:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::There is an old English saying about "I wish I had...". The reply is, "But you ''will'' John, you ''will''", meaning that maybe you didn't do it in the past, but you will certainly do it in the future, which is a very nice compliment, and very positive. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 19:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== What is it about? ==<br />
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What's the song about? Seems to be interesting for me. Best --[[User:Gerhard Atze|Gerhard Atze]] ([[User talk:Gerhard Atze|talk]]) 14:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Brown vs. Bown ==<br />
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Assertions in the article are cited to Cross, and Cross attributes comments to balance engineer Pete ''Brown''. That's probably a mistake; the balance engineer was Pete ''Bown''. Does someone have another source for the comments so we can cite the proper name? &mdash; [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 04:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Label ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple or Parlophone. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership. [[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 17:37, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Long_and_Winding_Road&diff=350435110Talk:The Long and Winding Road2010-03-17T17:36:05Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Label */ new section</p>
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All attempts to do a Print Preview of this article's page (NOT this discussion page) on Mozilla at a display ratio other than "Shrink to Fit" cause Mozilla to crash. I don't know enough about HTML and web-design to know how to fix this. Perhaps someone else could fix what is wrong.<br />
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Suggest including this on the Beatles page or on a Beatles miscleaneous topics page.<br />
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:There are a bunch of articles about Beatles songs...they should probably go on their respective albums' articles though. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] 05:53, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't see a problem with well-done articles on particular, notable songs; care needs to be taken not to repeat too much of the information already present in the album or artist listing, though. [[User:Jgm|Jgm]] 15:44, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)<br />
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This is a very good article, and I also see nothing wrong with articles on important and well-known songs, but this article, in my opinion, goes well beyond the scope of the song "The Long and Winding Road". Perhaps the information not directly related to the song could go on a separate [[breakup of the Beatles]] page? I'm sure a lot of other information could be added to such a page. Or else make a clear "Breakup" section in the [[History of the Beatles]] article, and transfer some of this information there? -[[User:R. fiend|R. fiend]] 16:07, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)<br />
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::I've done an edit with R.'s comments in mind; specifically I've tried to limit the material to the song, with just enough framing info for context. Much of what I cut out would be a valuable addition to the ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' article, I think, or, as R. suggests, the [[History of the Beatles]] article. I've also made some general structure and wording changes and copy edits and added some material from a primary source (Lewishon's book). There are still some awkward bits (ie. the explanation of the difference between the ''Billboard'' and ''Cashbox'' charts) that could use fixing.<br />
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To quote: "McCartney claimed that his longstanding dissatisfaction with the released version of "The Long and Winding Road" (and the entire Let It Be album) was the catalyst for his decision." <br />
But isn't a catalyst something that speeds a process up? How can longstanding dissatisfaction, thirty years or so, be a catalyst? [[User:Brendanfox|Brendanfox]] 04:07, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)<br />
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==Break up reasons==<br />
What were the other five reasons he cited in court to break up the Beatles? -[[User:Rwv37|Rwv37]] 05:38, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)<br />
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== OnStar commercial ==<br />
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This is kinda old, so it'll be a bit hard to verify, but I believe that an instrumental version was the background music for an [[OnStar]] commercial a few months ago ("few" is used loosely, as I don't know exactly when it was). It was the commercial where there were a whole bunch of kids (separately) telling about their various experiences with OnStar and how it saved their family members, etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does anyone even know what commercial I'm talking about? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 09:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== linking to copyvio ==<br />
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I have again removed external links from this article to material in violation of copyright, per #5 under the "Links to be used occasionally" section at [[WP:EL#Links to be used occasionally|Wikipedia:External links]]. Performances and transcriptions of lyrics are protected by copyright. Unless the owner of the copyright has placed the material on the web themselves, or approved its publication on some unofficial website, it should not be linked from Wikipedia. -- [[User:Mikeblas|Mikeblas]] 02:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Link rot ==<br />
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some of the citations are suffering from link rot, being new to wikia I did not continue further <notably reference 8> [[User:75.15.195.164|75.15.195.164]] 20:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthology 3 and Let It Be… Naked ==<br />
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The version on Anthology 3 is the same take which received Spector's overdubs, whereas the Let It Be Naked version is a different take, previously unreleased. This information is correctly stated on the [[Let It Be%E2%80%A6 Naked]] page. [[User:Sonitus|Sonitus]] 04:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Authority does not equal quality ==<br />
The following quote - and the article it is quoted from - is a prime reason why "quoting authorities" is simply not good enough to create a viable reference.<br />
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>The song takes the form of a piano-based ballad, with an unconventional structure and some of the most inventive and sophisticated chord changes heard in The Beatles' catalogue. The song's home key is in E-flat major but spends ample time in its relative minor, the key of C minor.[2]<br />
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To put it crudely, it's wack BS. The "unconventional structure" is Verse/Verse/Bridge/Verse/Repeat last verse.<br />
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The "sophisticated chord changes" are purely diatonic, with a couple of dominant seventh chords and a single altered bass (Ab chord over Bb bass), in one key. The only "relative minor" in the song is the first phrase of each verse, which is sung over a minor chord. Only in the most strict interpretation of a small part of the classical music tradition does a single minor chord define a minor tonality.<br />
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The rest of the "Let It Be" album is heavily influence by the Beatles early rock influences, so in the context of the album, it sounds sophisticated, but compared to the songwriting on Abbey Road, the White Album, - anything post-LSD, to be blunt - it is a simple, straightforward song. No key changes, no altered notes, no "jazz" chords, nothing special except Paul McCartney's ability to deploy such simple materials in an elegant, appropriate fashion.<br />
<br />
Perhaps I'm not sufficiently bowing down to Pollack's authority, but his article in general reminds me of A.J. Weberman's obsessive projection into Dylan's music, more so than mainstream musical analysis.<br />
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[[User:24.17.180.126|24.17.180.126]] 09:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I may not be as musically knowledgeable as you, but I had much the same reaction. I've always been intrigued by unusual song structures (I wrote a recent blog entry on the topic), and when I read those words in the article, I stopped short. I had to listen to the song again, and I found--as you did--that it has a perfectly standard structure consisting of verses, a bridge, and a short instrumental section substituting for a repeat of the bridge. I suppose one could argue that the verse itself has slightly irregular qualities (which might be what this critic was referring to). But "irregular" isn't the same as "unusual" or "exceptional." As you indicate, the song is nothing compared to the experimentation that characterized much of the later Beatles catalog. [[User:Marbehraglaim|marbeh raglaim]] 10:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Scoring ==<br />
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I'd be curious to know the exact scoring of the orchestra. I'm surprised to see no mention of a French horn, as several times it really sounds like that to me. The notes are far too high for a trombone, and too mellow (to my ears) for a trumpet. Perhaps a trumpet using a loose plunger or hat or something? Can't find much on the web, which doesn't prove much. [http://www.epinions.com/musc-review-3609-8713869-386BFACB-prod1 This] refers to a 36 piece orchestra plus vocalists, whereas our article makes it 34: 18+4+4+3+3+2 . [[User Talk:Stevage|Stevage]] 06:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Conflicting info ==<br />
In the intro, the article currently reads:<br />
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:It became The Beatles' '''33rd''' and last number-one song in the United States on June 13, 1970.<br />
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Then later it reads:<br />
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:On 13 June, it became The Beatles' '''twentieth''' and final number one single in America, according to Billboard magazine<br />
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Would somebody like to clarify this asap? I tried a quick google but I'm apparently incompitent (hence the mispelling of both incompetent and misspelling). Cheers, [[User:Rothery|Rothery]] 22:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC).<br />
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==Cleaning==<br />
This article needs a good clean with a stiff brush. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I have changed a few things. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 18:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I added a missing citation as request on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles]]. While doing so, I noticed that there were a few references to [http://www.beatles-discography.com Craig Cross' defunct website]. I think Cross took the website down when he decided to publish the book that is also referenced in this article and contains all the material that used to be on his site. I have the book, and I will fix the refs today or soon.<br />
::''BUT''...<br />
:The citations in this article are a bit of a mess. I prefer a single "Notes" section where the first reference to a book (for example) lists the complete information and subsequent references (perhaps to different pages in the book) use a shorter entry. Other people evidently like all the Notes entries to be short, and they add a References section that gives the full details. When I edit an article, I try to follow whichever method is already used on the page. In this article, both methods are used, which makes it hard to decide how to add new citations. In addition, the formatting is pretty sloppy. Rather than complain here, I'd prefer to just fix it, but the article has been getting a fair bit of attention lately and I don't want to step on any toes.<br />
:Anyway, for the short-term, I'll volunteer to fix the Cross website references, converting them to references to his book, but will await further comment by other editors before doing anything else.<br />
:[[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 16:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::You're right about the references being sloppy. You should go ahead and change them as you think fit, John. I must say it's refreshing to talk about references and the quality of them, and to have (hopefully) passed the POV, vandalism, unreferenced and supposition remarks phase in an article. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 13:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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(outdent)OK, part two. I cleaned up some of the citations, mostly Craig Cross stuff but others, too. There are still some problems:<br />
#One of the statements supported by the Cross web site (defunct) are not covered by the Cross book as far as I can tell. Evidently, the content of the book does not match the web site exactly, or some prior editor's interpretation of the Cross text doesn't match mine. In any case, I left that citation in place. It's the only one that remains as a link to Cross' site.<br />
#The Badman and Miles "Diary" sources/cites are a little confusing. They include published book elements (ISBN, etc.), but the cites are to online versions. Meanwhile, there are full "Notes" entries for both, and a "References" entry that seems to be for the Miles version, but has a different year, a different title, etc. I think the References entry should be removed.<br />
#The diary entries don't always support the assertions for which they are cited. For example, the article says "On the 1976 Wings Over the World Tour, where it was one of the few Beatles songs played, it was performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section", and the source is the Badman diary for 1975. If you actually go read that chapter, it says that McCartney performed the song on his 75/76 World Tour, but it says nothing about the being "performed on piano in a sparse and effective arrangement using a horn section." So--that statement is unsupported unless someone has a different source.<br />
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So far, the more I look, the more issues I find. They're mostly minor stuff, but fixing some of them may result in article content changes. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 18:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:andreasegde, re: comments above about it being "refreshing to talk about references ...", I completely agree. I appreciate what you've done to clean up the article and I wish I had made that point above. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 13:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::There is an old English saying about "I wish I had...". The reply is, "But you ''will'' John, you ''will''", meaning that maybe you didn't do it in the past, but you will certainly do it in the future, which is a very nice compliment, and very positive. --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 19:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== What is it about? ==<br />
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What's the song about? Seems to be interesting for me. Best --[[User:Gerhard Atze|Gerhard Atze]] ([[User talk:Gerhard Atze|talk]]) 14:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Brown vs. Bown ==<br />
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Assertions in the article are cited to Cross, and Cross attributes comments to balance engineer Pete ''Brown''. That's probably a mistake; the balance engineer was Pete ''Bown''. Does someone have another source for the comments so we can cite the proper name? &mdash; [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] ([[User talk:John Cardinal|talk]]) 04:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Label ==<br />
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The labels for all Lennon/McCartney songs seem to read Apple or Parlophone. Although the albums were distributed by these labels, the individual songs are published by other companies. E.g. originally Northern Songs Ltd. and now by Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC as noted on the remastered box sets. I propose that all of these be changed to reflect either the original or present day ownership.</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles_albums_discography&diff=202405420The Beatles albums discography2008-03-31T22:32:16Z<p>Paul McMarkney: </p>
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<div>'''[[The Beatles]]''' released twelve original [[album]]s, twelve [[Extended play|EP]]s (mainly consisting of material also available on their albums), one [[double EP]], and twenty-two [[single (music)|singles]] (mainly featuring original music not found on their albums) in eight years ([[1962]]-[[1970]]) in their native [[United Kingdom]]. Their international discography is complicated, however, due to sometimes different versions of their albums released in other countries, particularly in their early years on [[Capitol Records]] in the [[United States]]. In addition, most of their releases are available in both [[monaural|mono]] and [[stereo]] mixes.<br />
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==Historical background==<br />
The first ten (of twelve) Beatles albums were released in both mono and stereo mixes. Since mono record players were the most common at the time, producer [[George Martin]] and the Beatles gave more time and attention to preparing mono mixes of their recordings, particularly for their early records. Therefore, the mono versions are considered by many to be the "official" versions, as opposed to the stereo releases (In fact, when the Beatles discography was released on compact disc ([[Compact disc|CD]]) in the 1980s, the mono mixes of the first four albums, rather than the stereo mixes, were used). The last two albums, [[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]] and [[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]], were originally mixed and released in stereo only.<br />
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The Beatles UK discography was released on CD in the late 1980s. However, the sound of the digital transfers of the current discs, produced by George Martin in 1987 and 1988 using the best equipment available during the early days of the format, no longer meet standards achievable using current techniques. The sound on the remastered catalogues of [[Bob Dylan]], the [[Bee Gees]], the [[The Beach Boys|Beach Boys]], and the [[The Rolling Stones|Rolling Stones]], among other heavyweights from the 1960s, have been greatly enhanced using technological developments that have occurred since Martin's initial digital mastering, and as of 2007, similar work for the Beatles is long overdue. In addition, many Beatles enthusiasts feel that the CD releases of the albums are inferior because the recordings were originally mastered to be played on vinyl, which, when played back, arguably possess a warm sound which CDs are not able to reproduce. Many purists today still listen to Beatles albums only on vinyl.{{Fact|date=June 2007}}<br />
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Olivia Harrison recently stated that the Beatles songs and albums had been remastered, and were in the final production stage. However, Harrison did state that she feels these may not be released until the end of 2008, possibly due to changes that may need to be made. <ref>[http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/beatles_online_deal_seen_for_2008.html Beatles Online Deal Seen For 2008 | News @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><br />
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==Official canon==<br />
This section lists the canon of material currently sanctioned by the Beatles as part of their official catalogue<ref name="thebeatles.com Albums">{{cite web | publisher = thebeatles.com | date = | author= | title = The Beatles Albums | url=http://thebeatles.com/core/music/ | accessdate = 2008-03-27 }}</ref>. After the band's breakup, [[EMI]], who controlled the Beatles material, "explored a range of repackaging schemes to exploit their Beatles catalogue"<ref name="Rough Guide p. 66">{{cite book | last = Ingham | first = Chris | title = The Rough Guide to the Beatles | publisher = Rough Guides | date = 2006 | pages = 66 | isbn = 1843537206}}</ref>, without input from the Beatles themselves. It was not until "an agreement reached with EMI/[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] in 1989... gave the Beatles control of future use of all their EMI recordings. This meant that any shoddy repackaging ideas... could now be nipped in the bud by [[Apple Records|Apple]]"<ref name="Rough Guide p. 71">{{cite book | last = Ingham | first = Chris | title = The Rough Guide to the Beatles | publisher = Rough Guides | date = 2006 | pages = 71 | isbn = 1843537206}}</ref>. The canon of official Beatles releases include the following albums, EPs, and singles.<br />
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===Studio albums===<br />
The official canon of Beatles studio albums consists of the original albums as released in their native UK from 1962 to 1970. The single exception is ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'', which was released as a double EP in the UK and a longer LP in the United States. The Beatles now consider the U.S. version to be official <ref name="thebeatles.com Albums"/>.<br />
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{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Please Please Me]]'' ('''#1''' for 30 weeks, plus another 20 weeks at #2; 74 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Parlophone Records|Parlophone]] PMC 1202 (Mono)/PCS 3042 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-03-22]] and [[1963-04-26]] (Mono and stereo respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (The Beatles song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[With the Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks, plus another 10 weeks at #2; 53 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1206 (Mono)/PCS 3045 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br>"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks; 43 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1230 (Mono)/PCS 3058 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles for Sale]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 48 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1240 (Mono)/PCS 3062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-04]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br>"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br>"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1255 (Mono)/PCS 3071 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[["Help!" (song)|Help!]]"<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"[[You're Going to Lose That Girl]]"<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Act Naturally]]"<br>"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 47 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1267 (Mono)/PCS 3075 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-03]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Girl (The Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 7 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 46 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7009 (Mono)/PCS 7009 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-05]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[Doctor Robert]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 27 weeks, plus another 5 weeks at #2; 201 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7027 (Mono)/PCS 7027 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]"<br>"[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]"<br>"[[Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds]]"<br>"[[Getting Better]]"<br>"[[Fixing a Hole]]"<br>"[[She's Leaving Home]]"<br>"[[Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Within You Without You]]"<br>"[[When I'm Sixty-Four]]"<br>"[[Lovely Rita]]"<br>"[[Good Morning Good Morning]]"<br>"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)]]"<br>"[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]'' (U.S. album) ('''#1''' for 8 weeks in the U.S.; 91 weeks on U.S. chart) (12/30/1967+) (1/6/1968-)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAL 2835 (Mono)/SMAL 2835 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-11-27]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Magical Mystery Tour (song)|Magical Mystery Tour]]"<br>"[[The Fool on the Hill]]"<br>"[[Flying (song)|Flying]]"<br>"[[Blue Jay Way]]"<br>"[[Your Mother Should Know]]"<br>"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Hello, Goodbye]]"<br>"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br>"[[Penny Lane]]"<br>"[[Baby, You're a Rich Man]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ("The White Album") ('''#1''' for 8 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 24 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Parlophone PMC 7067-7068 (Mono)/PCS 7067-7068 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|'''Side three'''<br />
|'''Side four'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Back in the U.S.S.R.]]"<br>"[[Dear Prudence]]"<br>"[[Glass Onion]]"<br>"[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]"<br>"[[Wild Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill]]"<br>"[[While My Guitar Gently Weeps]]"<br>"[[Happiness Is a Warm Gun]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Martha My Dear]]"<br>"[[I'm So Tired]]"<br>"[[Blackbird (song)|Blackbird]]"<br>"[[Piggies]]"<br>"[[Rocky Raccoon]]"<br>"[[Don't Pass Me By]]"<br>"[[Why Don't We Do It in the Road?]]"<br>"[[I Will]]"<br>"[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Birthday (song)|Birthday]]"<br>"[[Yer Blues]]"<br>"[[Mother Nature's Son]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey|Everybody's Got Something to Hide<br> Except Me and My Monkey]]"<br>"[[Sexy Sadie (song)|Sexy Sadie]]"<br>"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br>"[[Long, Long, Long]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Revolution 1]]"<br>"[[Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[Savoy Truffle]]"<br>"[[Cry Baby Cry]]"<br>"[[Revolution 9]]"<br>"[[Good Night (song)|Good Night]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#3; 11 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PMC 7070 (Mono)/PCS 7070 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-17]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two''' (Instrumental, conducted by George Martin)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[Only a Northern Song]]"<br>"[[All Together Now (The Beatles song)|All Together Now]]"<br>"[[Hey Bulldog]]"<br>"[[It's All Too Much]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"Pepperland"<br>"Sea of Time"<br>"Sea of Holes"<br>"Sea of Monsters"<br>"March of the Meanies" <br>"Pepperland Laid Waste"<br>"Yellow Submarine in Pepperland"<br />
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|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 17 weeks – debut at #1, plus 1 week at #2; 92 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PCS 7088 Albums in stereo only from this point on.<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-09-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Come Together]]"<br>"[[Something]]"<br>"[[Maxwell's Silver Hammer]]"<br>"[[Oh! Darling]]"<br>"[[Octopus's Garden]]"<br>"[[I Want You (She's So Heavy)]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Here Comes the Sun]]"<br>"[[Because (The Beatles song)|Because]]"<br>"[[You Never Give Me Your Money]]"<br>"[[Sun King (song)|Sun King]]"<br>"[[Mean Mr. Mustard]]"<br>"[[Polythene Pam]]"<br>"[[She Came in Through the Bathroom Window]]"<br>"[[Golden Slumbers (The Beatles)|Golden Slumbers]]"<br>"[[Carry That Weight]]"<br>"[[The End (The Beatles song)|The End]]"<br>"[[Her Majesty (song)|Her Majesty]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 3 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 60 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PXS 1 (Box Set) /PCS 7096 (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-08]] (Box Set)<br>[[1970-11-06]] (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Two of Us (1969 song)|Two of Us]]"<br>"[[Dig a Pony]]"<br>"[[Across the Universe]]"<br>"[[I Me Mine]]"<br>"[[Dig It]]"<br>"[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"<br>"[[Maggie Mae]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Got a Feeling]]"<br>"[[One After 909]]"<br>"[[The Long and Winding Road]]"<br>"[[For You Blue]]"<br>"[[Get Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
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===Compilation albums===<br />
* ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1966-12-09]]) #7 (Considered official at time of release, but has since been deleted from catalogue)<br />
* ''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album") Apple Records #3([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 3)<br />
* ''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album") Apple Records #2([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 4)<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1962-1965 and other songs that were left off earlier albums) #49<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1965-1970 and other songs that were left off later albums) #46<br />
* ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' Apple Records ([[1994-11-30]]) (Contains 69 songs The Beatles recorded for various [[BBC]] radio shows that never were recorded for Parlophone/Capitol/EMI. #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 1]]'' Apple Records ([[1995-11-21]]) (Containing early performances, live shows, demos, out-takes in the period [[1958]] to [[1964]] and the first "new" Beatles song since the band broke up in [[1970]]) #2<br />
* ''[[Anthology 2]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-03-18]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, live shows, demos, and out-takes from [[1965]] to [[1968]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 3]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-10-28]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, demos, and out-takes in the period [[1968]] to [[1970]]) #4<br />
* ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'' Apple Records ([[1999-09-13]]) #8<br />
* ''[[The Beatles 1]]'' Apple Records ([[2000-11-13]]) (A collection of The Beatles' #1 hits on the Billboard [U.S.] and Record Retailer [UK] charts, including ''both'' sides of their double-A sided singles if both hit the top slot. The collection has 27 songs in it.) #1<br />
* ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'' Apple Records ([[2003-11-17]]) (Remastered and remixed cut from the original sessions, devoid of arrangements by "re-producer" [[Phil Spector]]. The first copies released shipped with a 21-minute ''Fly on the Wall'' bonus disc.) #7<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2004-11-16]]) #35 U.S. (Box set compilation comprising The Beatles' 1964 American Capitol Records releases)<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-04-11]]) #46 U.S. (Box set compilation comprising The Beatles' 1965 American Capitol Records releases)<br />
* ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'' Apple Records ([[2006-11-20]]) #3 (A soundtrack to the [[Cirque du Soleil]] production [[Love (Cirque du Soleil)|Love]], featuring remastered and remixed versions of the Beatles' songs by Sir George Martin and his son [[Giles Martin]])<br />
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===EPs===<br />
With two exceptions (''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' and ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ), the Beatles EPs featured songs also available on Beatles albums, rather than original material. The original material from the ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' EP can now be found on the ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'' CD, and the ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' EP material can be found on the ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' CD. <br />
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* ''[[Twist and Shout (EP)|Twist and Shout]]'' ([[1963-07-12]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Hits]]'' ([[1963-09-06]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (No. 1) (EP)|The Beatles (No. 1)]]'' ([[1963-11-01]])<br />
* ''[[All My Loving (EP)|All My Loving]]'' ([[1964-02-07]])<br />
* ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' ([[1964-06-19]]) The first Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material, including the [[Lennon-McCartney]] original "[[I Call Your Name]]".<br />
* ''[[Extracts from the Film A Hard Day's Night]]'' ([[1964-11-04]])<br />
* ''[[Extracts from the Album A Hard Day's Night]]'' ([[1964-11-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (EP)|Beatles for Sale]]'' ([[1965-04-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (No. 2)]]'' ([[1965-06-04]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Million Sellers]]'' ([[1965-12-06]])<br />
* ''[[Yesterday (EP)|Yesterday]]'' ([[1966-03-04]])<br />
* ''[[Nowhere Man (EP)|Nowhere Man]]'' ([[1966-07-08]])<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ([[1967-12-08]]); #2 (in the UK singles chart topped by "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"). The second Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material. In the U.S., this was released as a longer LP with additional songs not found on this release. It is the U.S. LP version that is now considered official.<br />
<br />
===Singles===<br />
The [[UK Singles Chart]] is compiled solely from sales figures; airplay statistics are not used. For this reason the chart positions for the UK Singles are indicated per disc, not per song. '''Pos''' column indicates the peak position in the charts. <br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="width: 2em" | Pos<br />
! style="min-width: 28em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-10-05]]<br />
| #17<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-01-11]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4983<br />
| (#1 in [[N.M.E]]'s chart)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5015<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-08-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-11-29]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5084<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-20]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" / "[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5114<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" / "[[Things We Said Today]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5160<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-27]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" / "[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5200<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-09]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" / "[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5265<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" / "[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5305<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-03]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" / "[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5389<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-06-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5452<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-05]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5493<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-17]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5570<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-07]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5620<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-24]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5655<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-15]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5675<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple R5722<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple R5777<br />
| (The Beatles with [[Billy Preston]])<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple R5786<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-31]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Something]]" / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple R5814<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-06]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple R5833<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-03-20]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple R6406<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple R6422<br />
| (first new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" / "[[Baby's in Black]]"<br />
| Apple R6425<br />
| (second new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==UK non-canon releases==<br />
This list reflects the various albums, EPs, and singles released in the UK which are not considered a part of the official Beatles catalogue. Most of these were released by record companies apart from the consent of the Beatles.<br />
<br />
===Compilations===<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' First]]'' [[Polydor Records]] ([[1967-08-04]]) (British issue of the 1964 German LP)<br />
* ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-06-10]]) #11<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-11-19]]) [sic] (Official UK issue of the American album using the Capitol masters, except for "Penny Lane," "Baby You're a Rich Man," and "All You Need is Love," which were the German mixes released on the Hör Zu! label in 1971. It became part of the official catalogue with its release on CD with every track in true-stereo. As an American import, the album peaked at #31 in 1968. Continued sales of the album as an import led to this release.)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-05-06]]) (Live performances from [[1964-08-23]] and [[1965-08-30]] at the [[Hollywood Bowl]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-19]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-02]]) (A 14-record box set containing all of [[The Beatles discography#Studio albums|The Beatles' original Parlophone/Apple LPs]] along with ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'')<br />
* ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1978-12-02]]) (Although not made explicit on the sleeve, this album consisted of every Parlophone and Apple Beatles B-side and EP track which had not been included on their UK studio albums, or on the 1973 "Red" and "Blue" Albums. It included 2 songs in German ("Sie Liebt Dich" and "Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand"), a song recorded for an American album and an alternative version of "Across The Universe") #71<br />
* ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1979-05-11]]) (Official UK issue of American album)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1980-10-13]]) (compilation) #17<br />
* ''The Beatles Box'' Parlophone Records/World Records ([[1980-11-03]]) (This is an 8-record compilation which was available by mail order only)<br />
* ''[[Reel Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-03-29]]) (compilation of tracks from The Beatles' films) Did not chart<br />
* ''The Beatles Mono Collection'' Parlophone/Apple (1982-10-??) (box set - 10 chronological mono Beatle albums from ''[[Please Please Me]]'' to ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' excluding ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]''. Intended for export, originally in a red box similar to ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', reissued later in black)<br />
* ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-10-18]]) #10<br />
<br />
===EPs===<br />
*''The Beatles EP Collection'', Parlophone ([[1981-12-07]]) (15-disc 7" EP set, featuring all 13 Beatles British EPs, with both mono and stereo editions of [[Magical Mystery Tour]] plus an EP of 4 stereo mixes, new to the UK, of "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]", housed in a blue flip-top box similar to [[The Beatles Collection]]. The set was issued on CD in a black box for the first time in the UK on ([[1992-05-26]] with releases in the U.S. and Japan in the following month)<br />
* ''The Beatles'' ([[1981-12-07]]) (a rarities' EP featuring "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]")<br />
<br />
===Singles===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="width: 2em" | Pos<br />
! style="min-width: 28em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-01-05]]<br />
| #48<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| {{nowrap|Polydor NH 66-833}}<br />
| (by "[[Tony Sheridan]] & The Beatles")[http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/hamburg.html]<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-29]]<br />
| #29<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "If You Love Me, Baby"<br />
| Polydor NH 52-317<br />
| ([[B-side]] with [[Tony Sheridan]], vocal)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-03-08]]<br />
| #8<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6013<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-29]]<br />
| #19<br />
| "[[Back in the USSR]]" / "[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6016<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-09-30]]<br />
| #63<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6022<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-05-25]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[The Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-11-19]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-12-06]]<br />
| <br />
| ''The Beatles Singles Collection''<br />
| Parlophone BSC 1<br />
| <small>22-disc 7" singles set, featuring the complete Beatles EMI singles catalogue, with new picture sleeves for many of the discs. The set was first issued on CD in the UK 1992-11-02, and in the U.S. 1992-11-09. The set was first packaged in Japan using a longbox housing the complete set of 3" CD singles in December 1989.</small><br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==U.S. discography==<br />
<br />
===U.S. albums===<br />
The first seven Beatles albums appeared in different versions in the U.S., where [[Capitol Records]] mixed UK album tracks with UK single tracks to create different albums altogether, with different titles, track listings, and often different audio mixes. The first eight of these records have been released on CD as ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' (2004) and ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' (2006). The Capitol release of ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' is preferred by some over its UK counterpart, due to its more folky flavour{{Fact|date=June 2007}}; it was this version of the album that greatly influenced the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, who "answered" it by releasing ''[[Pet Sounds]]'' in 1966{{Fact|date=June 2007}}. Upon the release of ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' in [[1967]], the Beatles albums had the same track listing in both the U.S. and the UK (The only exception to this is ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'', which was released as a [[double EP]] in the UK, and a longer [[LP album|LP]] in the U.S.).<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Introducing... The Beatles]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 49 weeks on chart) (2/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Vee-Jay Records|Vee-Jay]] VJLP 1062 (Mono)/VJSR 1062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-07-22]], and [[1964-01-27]] (Versions 1 and 2 respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (The Beatles song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]" ("[[Ask Me Why]]" on Version 2)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]" ("[[Please Please Me]]" on Version 2)<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Meet the Beatles!]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 71 weeks on chart) (2/8/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 2047 (Mono)/ST 2047 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks; 55 weeks on chart) (4/25/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2080 (Mono)/ST 2080 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-04-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)|Money]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)#The American release|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 14 weeks; 51 weeks on chart) (7/18/1964) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[United Artists Records|United Artists]] UAL 3366 (Mono)/UAS 6366 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-06-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"Ringo's Theme (This Boy)" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br>"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 41 weeks on chart) (8/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2108 (Mono)/ST 2108 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[Slow Down]]"<br>"[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles '65]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks; 71 weeks on chart) (1/9/1965-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2228 (Mono)/ST 2228 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-15]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br>"[[She's a Woman]]"<br>"[[I Feel Fine]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Early Beatles]]'' (#43; 35 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2309 (Mono)/ST 2309 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-03-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles VI]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart) (7/10/1965)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2358 (Mono)/ST 2358 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-06-14]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br>"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Bad Boy (Larry Williams song)|Bad Boy]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Yes It Is]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)#American release|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another week at #2; 44 weeks on chart) (9/11/1965) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2386 (Mono)/SMAS 2386 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" (with "[[James Bond Theme]]" intro)<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]] Fantasy" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"In the Tyrol" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"Another Hard Day's Night" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br>"The Bitter End/[[You Can't Do That]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You're Gonna Lose That Girl]]"<br>"The Chase" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (1/8/1966-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2442 (Mono)/ST 2442 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[Girl (Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yesterday and Today|Yesterday ...and Today]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 31 weeks on chart) (7/16/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2553 (Mono)/ST 2553 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-06-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Dr. Robert]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[We Can Work It Out]]"<br>"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 77 weeks on chart) (9/10/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2576 (Mono)/ST 2576 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-08]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 15 weeks, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 175 weeks on chart) (6/24/1967) "Grammy Award Winner for the Album of the Year in[[1967]]"<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2653 (Mono)/SMAS 2653 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-02]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release. It should be noted, though, that the two seconds of gibberish placed on the concentric groove of the UK release was left off the U.S. release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks; 91 weeks on chart) (12/30/1967+) (1/6/1968-) {The Movie Soundtrack & 1967 singles}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAL 2835 (Mono)/SMAL 2835 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-11-27]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Magical Mystery Tour (song)|Magical Mystery Tour]]"<br>"[[The Fool on the Hill]]"<br>"[[Flying (song)|Flying]]"<br>"[[Blue Jay Way]]"<br>"[[Your Mother Should Know]]"<br>"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Hello, Goodbye]]"<br>"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br>"[[Penny Lane]]"<br>"[[Baby, You're a Rich Man]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 155 weeks on chart) (12/14/1968)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Capitol SWBO 101 (All albums in stereo only from this point on)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#2 for 2 weeks – kept off the top spot by ''The White Album''; 25 weeks on chart) (2/15/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SW 153<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 7 weeks at #2; 129 weeks on chart) (10/25/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SO 383<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-10-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 4 weeks, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (6/6/1970) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/United Artists AR 34001<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-18]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. compilations and other releases===<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', Capitol TBO 2222 (Mono)/STBO 2222 (Stereo ([[1964-11-23]]) #7 (12/19/1964+) (1/2/1965-)<br />
*''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'', Apple/Capitol SW 385 ([[1970-02-26]]) #2(4) (3/21/1970)<br />
*''[[In the Beginning (Circa 1960)]]'', [[Polydor Records]] 24-4504 ([[1970-05-04]]) #117<br />
*''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album"), Apple SKBO-3403 ([[1973-04-02]]) #3 (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album"), Apple SKBO-3404 ([[1973-04-02]]) #1(1) (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1976-06-07]]) #2(2) (6/26/1976)<br />
*''[[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]]'', [[Lingasong]] ([[May 2]], [[1977]]) #111<br />
*''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-05-04]]) #2(2) (5/21/1977)<br />
*''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-10-21]]) #24 (11/19/1977)<br />
*''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', Capitol Records ([[1979-12-01]]) (Unlike the British release, the American issue was a limited edition with only 3000 copies made. The British release which was not a limited edition became a popular import for the U.S. market as a result.)<br />
*''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'', Capitol SHAL-12060 ([[1980-03-24]]) #21 (4/19/1980)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Reel Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-03-22]]) #19 (4/10/1982)<br />
*''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-10-11]]) #50<br />
*''[[Please Please Me]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[With the Beatles]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Beatles for Sale]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Rubber Soul]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]]'')<br />
: (The above 1987 CD releases mark the first official releases for The Beatles' early British albums in the U.S.)<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #149<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #121<br />
:(''Past Masters'' as a 2-LP set was issued by Capitol Records on [[1988-10-24]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-11-15]])<br />
*''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'', Capitol Records ([[1994-12-06]]) #3 (12/24/1994+) (1/8/1995-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[1995-11-21]]) #1 (12/9/1995+) (1/13/1996-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-03-19]]) #1 (4/20/1996)<br />
*''[[Anthology 3]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-10-29]]) #1 (11/23/1996+) (1/3/1997-)<br />
*''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'', Capitol Records ([[1999-09-14]]) #15 (10/2/1999)<br />
*''[[The Beatles 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2000-11-14]]) #1 (12/2/2000+) (1/6/2001-)<br />
*''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'', Capitol Records ([[2003-11-18]]) #5 (12/13/2003+) (1/17/2004-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2004-11-16]]) #35 (12/4/2004+) (1/1/2005-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-04-11]]) #46<br />
*''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-11-21]]) #4 (12/16/2006+) (1/20/2007-)<br />
<br />
===U.S. EPs===<br />
* ''[[Souvenir of Their Visit to America]]'' (Vee Jay Records) ([[1964-03-23]])<br />
* ''[[Four by the Beatles]]'' ([[1964-05-11]])<br />
* ''[[4-by the Beatles]]'' ([[1965-02-01]])<br />
* ''[[Baby It's You (Shirelles)|Baby It's You]]'' ([[1995-03-23]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]'' ([[1995-12-12]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' ([[1996-03-05]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
<br />
===U.S. singles===<br />
The [[Billboard Hot 100]] chart in the U.S. is compiled from sales <strong>and</strong> airplay statistics, so the individual songs on any given disc can be charted separately.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| (Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 498<br />
| (Early pressings misspelled as The Beattles)<!-- both misspellings existed on the released singles --><br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-05-27]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#116</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 522<br />
| <br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (first release; white label with red print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> (1/25/1964-)[A] / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#14</sup> (1/25/1964-)[B]<br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-25]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/1/1964) / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (second release; black label with silver print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-27]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" <sup>#26</sup> (3/7/1964) / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| MGM 13213<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-30]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]" <sup>#3</sup> (2/22/1964) / "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#41</sup><br />
| Vee-Jay 581<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-08]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#45</sup> / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#68</sup> / "[[Please Mister Postman]]"<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-02]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#2</sup> (3/21/1964) / "[[There's a Place]]" <sup>#74</sup><br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/28/1964) / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#48</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-23]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]" <sup>#2</sup> (4/11/1964) / "[[Thank You Girl]]" <sup>#35</sup> (4/25/1964)<br />
| Vee-Jay 587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" <sup>#88</sup> / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-27]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/2/1964) / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]" <sup>#10</sup> (5/16/1964)<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-21]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" (She Loves You) <sup>#97</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4182<br />
| (German, A-side shown as "DIE BEATLES")<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-01]]<br />
| "[[Sweet Georgia Brown]]" / "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby"<br />
| Atco 6302<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" <sup>#19</sup> (8/1/1964) / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/18/1964) / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#25</sup> (8/15/1964) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#95</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#12</sup> (8/8/1964) / "[[If I Fell]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#17</sup> (9/19/1964) / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#25</sup> (9/26/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/5/1964) / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#4</sup> (12/12/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/27/1965) / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#39</sup> (3/20/1965)<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/1/1965) / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#46</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> (8/14/1965) / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#101</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/2/1965) / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#47</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/18/1965+) (1/8/1966-) / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#5</sup> (12/25/1965+) (1/22/1966-)<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#3</sup> (3/5/1966) / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]" <sup>#81</sup><br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> (6/11/1966) / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]] <sup>#23</sup> (6/25/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#2</sup> (8/27/1966) / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#11</sup> (9/10/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/4/1967) / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#8</sup> (3/11/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/29/1967) / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]" <sup>#34</sup> (8/12/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/9/1967) / "[[I Am the Walrus]]" <sup>#56</sup><br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#4</sup> (3/23/1968) / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]" <sup>#96</sup><br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> (9/14/1968) [A] / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#12</sup> (9/14/1968) [B]<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/10/1969) [A] / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#35</sup> (5/10/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" <sup>#8</sup> (6/21/1969) / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B] / "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/21/1970) / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [A] / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [B]<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#7</sup> (6/19/1976) / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#49</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" <sup>#71</sup> / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" <sup>#12</sup> (4/10/1982) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#23</sup> (8/30/1986) / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> (12/30/1995+) (1/6/1996-) / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| first new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> (3/23/1996) / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| second new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Canadian discography==<br />
<br />
===Canadian albums===<br />
The division of [[Capitol Records]] in [[Canada]] released three unique albums and nine singles in 1963 and 1964 before aligning with the American division and releasing the same albums as in the U.S. The first Canadian release was the "[[Love Me Do]]" single (72076) on [[1963-02-04]].<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatlemania! With the Beatles]]'' (#1 CAN, 6 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 6051 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Track listing identical to the British album ''[[With the Beatles]]''.<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Twist and Shout (Beatles Canada album)|Twist and Shout]]'' (#1 CAN, 10 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6054 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]]''<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]''<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Long Tall Sally]]'' (#1 CAN, 5 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6063 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-05-11]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Misery (The Beatles song)|Misery]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
After this album, Capitol of Canada synchronised its catalogue production with the U.S. market, beginning with United Artists' ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' and concluding with Apple's ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''. Notably, the albums ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' and ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'' were only produced in mono when originally released. In 1967 the American back catalogue was released in Canada:<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'', ST 2080 (Stereo)/ T 2080 (Mono), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Meet The Beatles]]'', ST 2047 (Stereo), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Something New]]'', ST 2108, February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', STBO 2222 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
* ''[[The Early Beatles]]'', ST 2309 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
<br />
===Canadian compilations=== <br />
All post-Beatles albums were released exactly the same in Canada as in the U.S., with the exception of:<br />
* ''[[Very Together]]'', Polydor (Fall [[1969]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'', Capitol Records ([[1980-10-13]])<br />
<br />
===Canadian singles===<br />
This reflects the Beatles singles which appeared on the "[[CHUM Chart|CHUM Hit Parade]]" charts between the weeks of Monday [[6 January]] [[1963]] and Saturday [[8 January]] [[1977]].<ref>[http://www.1050chum.com/index_chumcharts.aspx?artist=7600 1050 CHUM - CHUM Charts<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> Capitol of Canada took on the Beatles early on and issued early singles in their 72000 series of Canada only releases<ref>[http://www.capitol6000.com/protected/7200045s.htm The 72000 Series Of 45 RPM Vinyl Discs<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> before aligning with the American company's numbering system when the American company began issuing Beatle singles. American Beatle recordings issued on the Vee-Jay, Swan and Tollie labels were issued by Capitol of Canada with 72000 series catalogue numbers. Capitol Canada was the only country outside of the U.K. to issue version 1 of "Love Me Do" with Ringo on the drums.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| Test Pressing, never issued<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-03]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#8</sup> / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72076<br />
| #8 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-23<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72090<br />
| #5 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-09<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-06-18]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Capitol 72101<br />
| #6 on 1964-03-09<br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72125<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-01-20<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-09]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| First Canadian Beatle single to make charts almost immediately upon release.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-02-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-17]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[This Boy]]" <sup>#1</sup> [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-03-23. This Boy held the #1 spot alone after All My Loving had fallen to #5 in week six.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[There's a Place]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72146<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#3</sup> / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#33</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-20]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret?]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72159<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-15]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why|Ask My Way]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72162<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-08-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#20</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#15</sup> / "[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#6</sup><br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1964-12-21<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1965-03-15<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-05-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-08-16<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1965-10-11<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1965-12-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1966-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-08-29<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-02-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1967-08-07<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-12-04<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1968-04-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1968-09-14<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1969-05-17, (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Banned from Canadian Radio stations nationwide<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1969-11-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" / "[[Something]]" <br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| Released with A-side as B-side<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1970-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1970-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#19</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (Dixon/Farrell song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| <br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Christmas records==<br />
The Beatles also recorded annual Christmas records for their fan club members. From 1963 to 1969 these were released as 7" flexidiscs on LYN. In 1970 the 7 previous records were put onto a 12" vinyl record, ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]''. These remain largely unavailable today (although they have been widely bootlegged), with the exception of one track, "Christmas Time Is Here Again", which was edited and released on the ''Free As a Bird'' CD single in [[1994]]: <br />
*''The Beatles Christmas Record'', LYN 492 ([[1963]])<br />
*''Season's Greetings from The Beatles'', LYN 757 ([[1964]])<br />
*''The Beatles 3rd Christmas Record'', LYN 948 ([[1965]])<br />
*''Everywhere It's Christmas'', LYN 1145 ([[1966]])<br />
*''Christmas Time Is Here Again'', LYN 1360 ([[1967]])<br />
*''Beatles 1968 Christmas Record'', LYN 1743/4 ([[1968]])<br />
*''Happy Christmas 1969'', LYN 1970/1 ([[1969]])<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]'', (UK) [[Apple Records|Apple]] LYN 2154 / ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album]]'' (U.S.) Apple SBC 100 ([[1970]])<br />
<br />
==Sales figures==<br />
===[[RIAA]] and [[Soundscan]] albums===<br />
US Sales figures.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
!scope="col"| Album<br />
!scope="col"| RIAA<br />
!scope="col"| Soundscan<br />
!scope="col"| [[United World Chart]]<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]''<br />
| {{nowrap|19x [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Platinum]] ([[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Diamond]] plus nine)}}<br />
| 3,125,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1967–1970]]''<br />
| 16x Platinum (Diamond plus six)<br />
| 2,568,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1962–1966]]''<br />
| 15x Platinum (Diamond plus five)<br />
| 2,214,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]''<br />
| 12x Platinum (Diamond plus two)<br />
| 3,910,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''{{nowrap|[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]}}''<br />
| 11x Platinum (Diamond plus one)<br />
| 3,825,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles 1]]''<br />
| 10x Platinum (Diamond)<br />
| 11,107,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 1]]''<br />
| 8x Platinum<br />
| 3,666,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,161,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,525,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rubber Soul]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 2,274,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Meet the Beatles!|Meet The Beatles!]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 50,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 1,889,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,232,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,149,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,518,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 2]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,739,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles '65]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 24,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 68,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 94,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 3]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 1,363,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 821,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 20,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles for Sale]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 594,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles VI]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,147,000<br />
| +1,871,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 826,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,164,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Please Please Me]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 772,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 216,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 230,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Early Beatles]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 19,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,090,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yesterday...and Today]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 26,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,670,000 <br />
| 4,395,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]''<br />
| [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Gold]]<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Reel Music]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 16,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Story]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 3,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 78,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[With the Beatles]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 563,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 756,000<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total<br />
| '''172 Million'''<br />
| '''55,695,000'''{{Fact|date=March 2007}}<!--unreliable source removed - read [[WP:A]] - old reference to Proboards --><br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Singles sales figures===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Single<br />
! Cat. #<br />
! Sales<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"/"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]"/"[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"/"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]"/"[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| 2.5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Get Back]]"/"[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Something]]"/"[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"/"[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]"/"[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]"/"[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]"/"[[From Me to You]]"<br />
| VJ 581<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"/"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"/"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]"/"[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]"/"[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"/"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| VJ 587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"/"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"/"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]"/"[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]"/"[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]"/"[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"/"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]"/"[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]"/"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]"/"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"/"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]"/"[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Free as a Bird]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]"/"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]"/"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"/"[[Slow Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]"/"[[For You Blue]]"<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]"/"[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total <br />
|<br />
| '''42 Million'''<br />
|}<br />
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==Future Releases==<br />
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There are currently plans to release remastered versions of the Beatles catalogue according to Olivia Harrison, who claims that the plans are nearly complete. [http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/feb/28/yoko-ono-lennons-art-he-would-not-have-minded][http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/114590/remastered-beatles-on-itunes-in-2008.html]<br />
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==Bootlegs==<br />
See [[The Beatles bootlegs]] for a rundown of some of the more popular unauthorized bootleg material.<br />
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==Bibliography==<br />
* {{cite book | author=Castleman, Harry and Walter J. Podrazik| title=All Together Now: the only Complete Beatles Discography 1961-1975 | publisher=Ballantine Books | year=1975 | id=ISBN 0-345-29794-6 }}<br />
* {{cite book | author=Wallgren, Mark| title=The Beatles on Record | publisher=Simon and Schuster | year=1982 | id=ISBN 0-671-45682-2 }}<br />
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==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
* {{Discogs artist|artist=Beatles%2C+The}}<br />
*[http://www.freewebs.com/thebeatlesbeat2/ Beatles LPs EPs and singles all over the world]<br />
*[http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2407 The Beatles reviews @ progarchives.com]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/btlps.html Beatles LP and CD discography]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/bt45s.html Beatles singles and EP discography]<br />
*[http://www.jpgr.co.uk/ A UK discography, including details on bootleg releases]<br />
*[http://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/music/beatcan.html The Beatles in Canada includes Canada-only discography]<br />
*[http://www.dermon.com/Beatles/Veejay.htm The Beatles on Vee-Jay Records]<br />
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[[ru:Дискография The Beatles]]</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Love_(Beatles_album)&diff=201297372Talk:Love (Beatles album)2008-03-27T11:15:09Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Includes elements of... */</p>
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== Different track listing ==<br />
<br />
Here's a track listing from this article [http://www.nme.com/news/beatles/24757]:<br />
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'Because'<br />
'Get Back'<br />
'Glass Onion'<br />
'Eleanor Rigby'/'Julia' (Transistion)<br />
'I Am The Walrus'<br />
'I Want To Hold Your Hand'<br />
'Drive My Car'/' The Word'/'What You're Doing'<br />
'Gnik Nus'<br />
'Something'/'Blue Jay Way' (Transition)<br />
'Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite!'/'I Want You (She's So Heavy)'/ 'Helter Skelter'<br />
'Help!'<br />
'Blackbird'/'Yesterday'<br />
'Strawberry Fields Forever'<br />
'Within You Without You'/'Tomorrow Never Knows'<br />
'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds'<br />
'Octopus's Garden'<br />
'Lady Madonna'<br />
'Here Comes The Sun'/'The Inner Light' (Transition)<br />
'Come Together'/'Dear Prudence'/'Cry Baby Cry' (Transition)<br />
'Revolution'<br />
'Back In The USSR'<br />
'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'<br />
'A Day In The Life'<br />
'Hey Jude'<br />
'Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)'<br />
'All You Need Is Love'<br />
<br />
Can anyone determine if either one is correct or incorrect? Thanks. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:And this article, [http://www.therockradio.com/2006/10/beatles-cirque-du-soleil-soundtrack_16.html], actually calls the songs [[mash-ups]]. It also has a track listing. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Move==<br />
The article "[[LOVE (album)]]" is vacant so there is no need to use the extra "The Beatles" in the title. —☆ '''[[User_talk:CieloEstrellado|CieloEstrellado]]''' 02:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm for it - the reasons make sense to me. [[User:Wagimawr|Jason]] 03:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Ok, I went ahead and did the move, but there was some non-trivial GFDL history at [[LOVE (album)]], and there was no good way to merge the histories, so I just swapped the pages' locations. Now most of the history can be found here, and some old edits can be found in the history at [[LOVE (The Beatles album)]]. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I've merged any substantial edits into this article's history, and left the old redirects deleted. --[[User:Kingboyk|kingboyk]] 13:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::Shouldn't it be ''Love'' instead of ''LOVE''? --[[User:Lukobe|Lukobe]] 06:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::::It's specifically refered to as ''LOVE'' in cited sources. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Linked songs lead to original recordings ==<br />
<br />
I thought the link to the songs would have entries on the LOVE versions of each song, but to my surprise the link lead me to the song page of the original recording. I was hoping to see a analyst of the song including which bits come from what song. {{unsigned|68.237.177.155}}<br />
:Info will be added to each song's respective article when it is [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cited]]. Entirely new articles for the LOVE versions are not needed. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 19:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Miami Herald ==<br />
<br />
While the Miami Herald is right with the information used and cited in this article (i.e. the song titles), it should be noted that there are errors in the sentence that contains that information. The [http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/music/16063294.htm newspaper article] says: {{cquote|Ringo's drum solo from ''Abbey Road'' and the feedback intro from ''A Hard Day's Night'' meld to launch the driving ''Get Back''.}} There are two things wrong with that sentence. For one, the drum solo is from "The End"; The Beatles never recorded a song called "Abbey Road". And secondly, there is no feedback involved in the first chord of "A Hard Day's Night". Nevertheless, as an outside source, it's useful as a confirmation of what we already know, but can't write because of [[WP:NOR]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it refers to ''Abbey Road'' as an album (hence the italics). Since the only drum solo in the album is in "The End", one can assume that it's the song referenced. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::In that article, both song and album titles are in italics, so it really doesn't help any. You're right about the solo, though. (I'm not sure Ringo got very many drum solos on ''any'' album.) Even so, as it stands, there are still two errors in that sentence. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 21:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The End contains Ringo's ''only'' drum solo, unless of course you include the ”Wild <br />
Drum Track” at the end of Take 7 of Strawberry Fields Forever, included on Anthology II. (this is Bernsteinp, but i can't log in right now -- i forgot my password.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Gnik Nus ==<br />
<br />
Originally, "Gnik Nus" was linked to [[Sun King (song)]]. Then, someone (anonymous, I think) came by and added the note about it being played in reverse. I fixed it up so that it matched the formatting of the list, and unlinked the list entry because it was the only one not the same as the original song. It was then relinked and the note was expanded to say that it "included elements of" Sun King played in reverse. Then all of this was removed, reverting it back to where it started. I'm just wondering, what is the reasoning behind this? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 16:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Three Minutes Longer?==<br />
I think how exactly needs to be explained.[[User:213.254.90.177|213.254.90.177]] 01:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
I agree. What is the additional three minutes?<br />
:I've explained this now. The difference is actually less than two minutes. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 09:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Good Night ==<br />
Who erased my addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden"? It's described in the Pitchfork review and obvious to anyone who listens to it. Additionally, while the review doesn't explicitly say it's also incorporated in "All You Need Is Love," it's clearly the same sample. Personally I think [[Wikipedia: No original research]] should be allowed to be bended a bit in a case like this, as something like what song is incorporated into what song is 100% verifiable if you just listen to them. Anyone have any thoughts? --[[User:DanyaRomulus|DanyaRomulus]] 00:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:The addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden" is currently in the article and is cited. Wikipedia's policy on original research is not negotiable, as the [[WP:NOR]] lead clearly states. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not certain as to whether using a song as a source of information is original research. (I'm defaulting to that it is, for now.) To clear this issue up once and for all, I began a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:No original research#Audio recording]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The audio recording does not specifically state where the sample came from, so it cant be used as a source of cited analysis. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 14:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Includes elements of... ==<br />
Is it just me, or is this track listing going to get out of hand if people keep extending these lists? Given that the Martins have said they've sampled bits of hundreds of songs, I'm sure eventually almost everything in the Beatles' catalogue could be added. And I don't think a track listing is the place for a detailed analysis of the samples and mash-ups. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 21:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I'm planning on converting the "includes elements of" notes to a separate section once sufficient information is cited.[[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
I am interested in knowing as many of the songs that are included in each track like most fans, why can't we all agree on what is included and add it, after all the real track listing won't be touched, everyone has that as a basis, it isn't any different adding the story of the wood pigeon to 'Because' than it is to add the drums of 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road?' to 'Lady Madonna'. We should go to town on adding everything we possibly can, obviously by agreeing it first hand, what do you all think? 11:14am 27th March 2008[[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 11:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Article Rating ==<br />
<br />
I recently changed the rating of the article to "A", but it was then changed to "B". I'm curious as to the reasoning behind this. It seemed to fit into the "A" class, especially because we've been good and have included references since the beginning. One or all of us should also probably duplicate this information into [[Talk:Love (The Beatles album)/Comments]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I suppose I'll change it back, then. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::This isn't A - A means it could be FA, which it couldn't. It wouldn't pass GA right now either - it misses important info, namely the critical reception the album has received. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 23:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::"The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic" - this is for A on the assessment scale, and as I just proved this doesn't qualify. It's certainly B, and definitely not A. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 00:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::[http://arts.guardian.co.uk/critic/review/0,,1949613,00.html Guardian album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,,1943178,00.html Observer album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::[http://www.nme.com/reviews/beatles/8078 NME album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::[http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/r3zf/ BBC album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::[http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/the_beatles/reviews/9044 Uncut album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::[http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article1988200.ece Independent album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 02:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Sgt Pepper in Strawberry Fields ==<br />
I'm a little bemused to why my addition of "Sgt Pepper" to the track elements of "Strawberry Fields FOrever" was deleted. It is very obvious to anyone who has actually listened to this album. [[User:Solipsist3|Solipsist3]] 00:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Likely because of the [[WP:RULES|Wikipedia Policy]] of [[WP:NOR|No Original Research]]. It must be verified by a reliable, outside source in order to be included. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Citing The Beatles' Love Flash Site ==<br />
<br />
Many new bits of information are presented in interviews on The Beatles' Love [http://www.thebeatles.com/hub/love/site/?sec=listen Listen page]. One such new bit was the recently reverted "Yesterday"/"Blackbird" information. How do we go about citing an audio recording contained fully within a Flash animation? And why don't we go about extracting the new information for the article? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 19:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Editing multiple citations ==<br />
Under "Track Elements" I have added some material on "Get Back." This info was found in Reference #13. This means that "Get Back" should have references to #9 ''and'' #13. I can't figure how to make that work. Can someone else?[[User:KXL|KXL]] 14:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Done. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Come Together End Part ==<br />
<br />
"Can you take me back where I came from", where is this from? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] ([[User talk:67.87.184.150|talk]]) 20:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --><br />
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:"[[Cry Baby Cry]]" as shown in the tracklisting. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:: I can understand whoever-wrote-the-first-bit's confusion; That part isn't in the white album's lyrics, and some consider it to be the beginning of Revolution 9. (this is again bernsteinp. i still can't remember my password). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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:::It isn't really part of either song - it was just a left over piece of ad-libbing by McCartney casually recorded but entirely independently from Lennon's "Cry Baby Cry" and "Revolution 9". It was used as a 'random' link on the White Album. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==GA Nomination==<br />
Can the person who nominated it for GA add a "Reception" section? I named five different sources for a "Reception" section on this talk page awhile back. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 22:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==GA review==<br />
The article is well sourced, but it isn't well organized. There should be some sort of Reception section and the Track elements section should be prosified. Keep trying and I'm sure this article will soon reach GA status. -- [[User:Scorpion0422|Scorpion]] 17:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Lady Madonna ==<br />
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The beginning part: could this possibly be "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?". [[User:67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] 00:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:It definately is, we could add that in the article - Kyodes <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.42.21.154|213.42.21.154]] ([[User talk:213.42.21.154|talk]]) 17:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
::Not really. See [[WP:NOR]]. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really get this NOR issue when something is clear like this. It's definitely that song, no doubt. Is it really necessary for someone else to have published a statement to the effect? <br />
:::On a similar point, suppose you were doing an article on say the Monopoly board and you stated "there are four stations, called, Xxxx, Xxxx, Xxxx and Xxxx. Is this original research? I would have thought that if we're discussing something verifiable by others, it's not really "research" at all, just a description.[[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 20:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::A similar question was previously discussed [[Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research/Archive_15#Audio_recording|here]]. As for your Monopoly comment, an analogy would be stating that "the font used for the stations is directly taken John Doe Magazine". Comparing item A to item B to determine C is original research. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 21:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It's an engaging debate. I think that in adhering to policy two things are needed: 1. Observation of the rules, and 2. Interpretation which respects the spirit of the rules (and not always the strict letter). <br />
:::::To go back to the Monopoly analogy - I would disagree with your comment. I'm not determining where the font was taken from, which requires background knowledge of the process of derivation (ie we 'make up' C as we know A and B, and so draw a causal conclusion). But that's not what I'm saying with the Monopoly example. I am only saying A and B are the same, and not saying one was derived from the other. Fonts have mathematical characteristics and can be identified that way. It it's Times New Roman both times, there's no external reasoning going on.<br />
:::::To use a different argument, say a Beatles album cover featured a photograph of the group. Do I need a source to assert this? Or can I just assert what is patently clear to all? [[Special:Contributions/81.96.164.105|81.96.164.105]] ([[User talk:81.96.164.105|talk]]) 22:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:By stating that one thing matches another, you're still implying that the one thing was derived from the other. This would be especially apparent within the context of the "Track elements" section. Having "so-and-so contains elements of such-and-such" (with a source) right next to "what-and-what was ''previously heard on''" (without a source) seems quite leading. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 23:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing" ==<br />
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Any official word on why the track is credited as "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing", rather than "Drive My Car / What You're Doing / The Word"? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 05:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I believe instrumental bits from "The Word" show up in the medley before "What You're Doing" does. I'll look for a source. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 16:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::The track listing in the article is what it says on the Cd box, regardless of what order they're in in the actual song. (bernsteinp, who wants to log in, but can't) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Iamaphoney ==<br />
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Information on a claim that Iamaphoney found the ''Love'' "code" has been removed from the article. The rationale for the removal is that the claim is not substantiated by a verifiable source. If you wish to discuss the change, please do so in this topic. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 13:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Anyone can claim to have the code. What makes the claim substantial is if a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] publishes it. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:EDIT: If you have found a reliable source, cite it ([[Wikipedia:Citing sources|click here]]). Do not add links to videos containing copyrighted material. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::Ok. {{unsignedIP|62.194.75.248|8 July 2007}}<br />
:::Please also keep in mind that editing an older version of the page removes all contributions that came after that version. Such edits will be undone '''''immediately'''''. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Should any reference to the alleged code be in there at all? Is 'The Rock Radio' really a reliable resource? I've never seen a reference to any such code in any other source. And the claim seems to be placed at a random point in the article as well. [[Special:Contributions/71.57.95.144|71.57.95.144]] ([[User talk:71.57.95.144|talk]]) 07:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The iamaphoney issue rears its ugly head again. The article should not contain anything about his claim whether there is evidence or not. It's not notable. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] 20:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm guessing that the diff that removed the Iamaphoney bit is linked from an outside webpage. Users that edit this version to end up removing all edits that have been made after it. This is a serious problem. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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: In iamaphoney's youtube video on the subject, is that the love version of because being played backwards? (bernsteinp. if you've read the talk page, you know about my problems by now.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Music videos? ==<br />
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What about the highly sophisticated, original music videos for the ''Love'' tracks provided by user ''CapitolRecords'' that keep popping up on YouTube lately (a few have been deleted already)? Have they ever been officially released for sale? --[[User:Tlatosmd|Tlatosmd]] 17:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Hate ==<br />
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There's a wee parody of the album going about called [http://www.thebeatleshate.com/index_eng.html Hate]... doesn't seem you can download from the website anymore, but it's pretty popular on torrent sites. I don't suppose it might be worth a little mention here? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.100.11.130|77.100.11.130]] ([[User talk:77.100.11.130|talk]]) 16:07, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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Brilliant and inspired. The downloads worked for me. [[Special:Contributions/71.205.136.119|71.205.136.119]] ([[User talk:71.205.136.119|talk]]) 15:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== By the Beatles? ==<br />
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The piece starts with the assertion that Love is an album by the Beatles. I think this needs to be considered. It is an album consisting of a collage of their music, but is it really "by" them? If I took a load of shakespeare lines and assembled a stream of quotations for artistic effect, would the resulting work be "by Shakespeare"? [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] 20:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it is a collection of music originally performed by The Beatles, approved for release by surviving members of the band. You could also use the [[fifth Beatle]] argument for George Martin, but I wouldn't. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I have made an alteration to the sentence for clarification. I maintain that while the music is by the Beatles, the album itself is not. The album is a collage, which forms a piece of creative work in itself, using the original songs as materials. It's a small point, but the opening sentence did jar somewhat. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 10:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Carnival of Light==<br />
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I'm not sure, but I think that the transition between Somthing and Being for the Benefit... has a part of Carnival of Light in it. I think I read it in the booklet. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Muchachos|Muchachos]] ([[User talk:Muchachos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Muchachos|contribs]]) 18:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Don't think so. The songs are connected by bits from "Blue Jay Way" and "Nowhere Man", and I think the odd orchestral dubs are from "Mr Kite" itself, although I don't recognise all of them. If there is a bit of "Carnival" in there, it's been slipped in quietly! [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Template Problems==<br />
I fixed the infobox. For some reason, the template said "Template:infobox album" instead of "Template:Single infobox" [[User:mrfunnyd|mrfunnyd]] 17:49, November 30, 2007 (UTC)<br />
:''Love'' is an album, not a single. This is even indicated in the article name, so I'm a bit puzzled as to why you think it's single. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 23:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Double Grammy winner ==<br />
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''Love'' won two Grammies last night - not bad for a group that stopped recording together (with a couple of exceptions) 38 years ago... [[Special:Contributions/147.70.242.40|147.70.242.40]] ([[User talk:147.70.242.40|talk]]) 19:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Love_(Beatles_album)&diff=201297332Talk:Love (Beatles album)2008-03-27T11:14:45Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Includes elements of... */</p>
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== Different track listing ==<br />
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Here's a track listing from this article [http://www.nme.com/news/beatles/24757]:<br />
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'Because'<br />
'Get Back'<br />
'Glass Onion'<br />
'Eleanor Rigby'/'Julia' (Transistion)<br />
'I Am The Walrus'<br />
'I Want To Hold Your Hand'<br />
'Drive My Car'/' The Word'/'What You're Doing'<br />
'Gnik Nus'<br />
'Something'/'Blue Jay Way' (Transition)<br />
'Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite!'/'I Want You (She's So Heavy)'/ 'Helter Skelter'<br />
'Help!'<br />
'Blackbird'/'Yesterday'<br />
'Strawberry Fields Forever'<br />
'Within You Without You'/'Tomorrow Never Knows'<br />
'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds'<br />
'Octopus's Garden'<br />
'Lady Madonna'<br />
'Here Comes The Sun'/'The Inner Light' (Transition)<br />
'Come Together'/'Dear Prudence'/'Cry Baby Cry' (Transition)<br />
'Revolution'<br />
'Back In The USSR'<br />
'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'<br />
'A Day In The Life'<br />
'Hey Jude'<br />
'Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)'<br />
'All You Need Is Love'<br />
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Can anyone determine if either one is correct or incorrect? Thanks. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:And this article, [http://www.therockradio.com/2006/10/beatles-cirque-du-soleil-soundtrack_16.html], actually calls the songs [[mash-ups]]. It also has a track listing. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Move==<br />
The article "[[LOVE (album)]]" is vacant so there is no need to use the extra "The Beatles" in the title. —☆ '''[[User_talk:CieloEstrellado|CieloEstrellado]]''' 02:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm for it - the reasons make sense to me. [[User:Wagimawr|Jason]] 03:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok, I went ahead and did the move, but there was some non-trivial GFDL history at [[LOVE (album)]], and there was no good way to merge the histories, so I just swapped the pages' locations. Now most of the history can be found here, and some old edits can be found in the history at [[LOVE (The Beatles album)]]. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I've merged any substantial edits into this article's history, and left the old redirects deleted. --[[User:Kingboyk|kingboyk]] 13:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::Shouldn't it be ''Love'' instead of ''LOVE''? --[[User:Lukobe|Lukobe]] 06:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::::It's specifically refered to as ''LOVE'' in cited sources. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Linked songs lead to original recordings ==<br />
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I thought the link to the songs would have entries on the LOVE versions of each song, but to my surprise the link lead me to the song page of the original recording. I was hoping to see a analyst of the song including which bits come from what song. {{unsigned|68.237.177.155}}<br />
:Info will be added to each song's respective article when it is [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cited]]. Entirely new articles for the LOVE versions are not needed. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 19:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Miami Herald ==<br />
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While the Miami Herald is right with the information used and cited in this article (i.e. the song titles), it should be noted that there are errors in the sentence that contains that information. The [http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/music/16063294.htm newspaper article] says: {{cquote|Ringo's drum solo from ''Abbey Road'' and the feedback intro from ''A Hard Day's Night'' meld to launch the driving ''Get Back''.}} There are two things wrong with that sentence. For one, the drum solo is from "The End"; The Beatles never recorded a song called "Abbey Road". And secondly, there is no feedback involved in the first chord of "A Hard Day's Night". Nevertheless, as an outside source, it's useful as a confirmation of what we already know, but can't write because of [[WP:NOR]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it refers to ''Abbey Road'' as an album (hence the italics). Since the only drum solo in the album is in "The End", one can assume that it's the song referenced. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::In that article, both song and album titles are in italics, so it really doesn't help any. You're right about the solo, though. (I'm not sure Ringo got very many drum solos on ''any'' album.) Even so, as it stands, there are still two errors in that sentence. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 21:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The End contains Ringo's ''only'' drum solo, unless of course you include the ”Wild <br />
Drum Track” at the end of Take 7 of Strawberry Fields Forever, included on Anthology II. (this is Bernsteinp, but i can't log in right now -- i forgot my password.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Gnik Nus ==<br />
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Originally, "Gnik Nus" was linked to [[Sun King (song)]]. Then, someone (anonymous, I think) came by and added the note about it being played in reverse. I fixed it up so that it matched the formatting of the list, and unlinked the list entry because it was the only one not the same as the original song. It was then relinked and the note was expanded to say that it "included elements of" Sun King played in reverse. Then all of this was removed, reverting it back to where it started. I'm just wondering, what is the reasoning behind this? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 16:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Three Minutes Longer?==<br />
I think how exactly needs to be explained.[[User:213.254.90.177|213.254.90.177]] 01:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
I agree. What is the additional three minutes?<br />
:I've explained this now. The difference is actually less than two minutes. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 09:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Good Night ==<br />
Who erased my addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden"? It's described in the Pitchfork review and obvious to anyone who listens to it. Additionally, while the review doesn't explicitly say it's also incorporated in "All You Need Is Love," it's clearly the same sample. Personally I think [[Wikipedia: No original research]] should be allowed to be bended a bit in a case like this, as something like what song is incorporated into what song is 100% verifiable if you just listen to them. Anyone have any thoughts? --[[User:DanyaRomulus|DanyaRomulus]] 00:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:The addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden" is currently in the article and is cited. Wikipedia's policy on original research is not negotiable, as the [[WP:NOR]] lead clearly states. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not certain as to whether using a song as a source of information is original research. (I'm defaulting to that it is, for now.) To clear this issue up once and for all, I began a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:No original research#Audio recording]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The audio recording does not specifically state where the sample came from, so it cant be used as a source of cited analysis. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 14:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Includes elements of... ==<br />
Is it just me, or is this track listing going to get out of hand if people keep extending these lists? Given that the Martins have said they've sampled bits of hundreds of songs, I'm sure eventually almost everything in the Beatles' catalogue could be added. And I don't think a track listing is the place for a detailed analysis of the samples and mash-ups. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 21:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I'm planning on converting the "includes elements of" notes to a separate section once sufficient information is cited.[[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
I am interested in knowing as many of the songs that are included in each track like most fans, why can't we all agree on what is included and add it, after all the real track listing won't be touched, everyone has that as a basis, it isn't any different adding the story of the wood pigeon to 'Because' than it is to add the drums of 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road?' to 'Lady Madonna'. We should go to town on adding everything we possibly can, obviously by agreeing it first hand, what do you all think? [[User:Paul McMarkney]] 11:14am 27th March 2008[[User:Paul McMarkney|Paul McMarkney]] ([[User talk:Paul McMarkney|talk]]) 11:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Article Rating ==<br />
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I recently changed the rating of the article to "A", but it was then changed to "B". I'm curious as to the reasoning behind this. It seemed to fit into the "A" class, especially because we've been good and have included references since the beginning. One or all of us should also probably duplicate this information into [[Talk:Love (The Beatles album)/Comments]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I suppose I'll change it back, then. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::This isn't A - A means it could be FA, which it couldn't. It wouldn't pass GA right now either - it misses important info, namely the critical reception the album has received. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 23:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::"The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic" - this is for A on the assessment scale, and as I just proved this doesn't qualify. It's certainly B, and definitely not A. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 00:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::[http://arts.guardian.co.uk/critic/review/0,,1949613,00.html Guardian album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,,1943178,00.html Observer album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::[http://www.nme.com/reviews/beatles/8078 NME album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::[http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/r3zf/ BBC album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::[http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/the_beatles/reviews/9044 Uncut album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::[http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article1988200.ece Independent album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 02:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Sgt Pepper in Strawberry Fields ==<br />
I'm a little bemused to why my addition of "Sgt Pepper" to the track elements of "Strawberry Fields FOrever" was deleted. It is very obvious to anyone who has actually listened to this album. [[User:Solipsist3|Solipsist3]] 00:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Likely because of the [[WP:RULES|Wikipedia Policy]] of [[WP:NOR|No Original Research]]. It must be verified by a reliable, outside source in order to be included. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Citing The Beatles' Love Flash Site ==<br />
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Many new bits of information are presented in interviews on The Beatles' Love [http://www.thebeatles.com/hub/love/site/?sec=listen Listen page]. One such new bit was the recently reverted "Yesterday"/"Blackbird" information. How do we go about citing an audio recording contained fully within a Flash animation? And why don't we go about extracting the new information for the article? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 19:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Editing multiple citations ==<br />
Under "Track Elements" I have added some material on "Get Back." This info was found in Reference #13. This means that "Get Back" should have references to #9 ''and'' #13. I can't figure how to make that work. Can someone else?[[User:KXL|KXL]] 14:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Done. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Come Together End Part ==<br />
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"Can you take me back where I came from", where is this from? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] ([[User talk:67.87.184.150|talk]]) 20:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --><br />
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:"[[Cry Baby Cry]]" as shown in the tracklisting. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:: I can understand whoever-wrote-the-first-bit's confusion; That part isn't in the white album's lyrics, and some consider it to be the beginning of Revolution 9. (this is again bernsteinp. i still can't remember my password). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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:::It isn't really part of either song - it was just a left over piece of ad-libbing by McCartney casually recorded but entirely independently from Lennon's "Cry Baby Cry" and "Revolution 9". It was used as a 'random' link on the White Album. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==GA Nomination==<br />
Can the person who nominated it for GA add a "Reception" section? I named five different sources for a "Reception" section on this talk page awhile back. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 22:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==GA review==<br />
The article is well sourced, but it isn't well organized. There should be some sort of Reception section and the Track elements section should be prosified. Keep trying and I'm sure this article will soon reach GA status. -- [[User:Scorpion0422|Scorpion]] 17:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Lady Madonna ==<br />
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The beginning part: could this possibly be "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?". [[User:67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] 00:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:It definately is, we could add that in the article - Kyodes <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.42.21.154|213.42.21.154]] ([[User talk:213.42.21.154|talk]]) 17:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
::Not really. See [[WP:NOR]]. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really get this NOR issue when something is clear like this. It's definitely that song, no doubt. Is it really necessary for someone else to have published a statement to the effect? <br />
:::On a similar point, suppose you were doing an article on say the Monopoly board and you stated "there are four stations, called, Xxxx, Xxxx, Xxxx and Xxxx. Is this original research? I would have thought that if we're discussing something verifiable by others, it's not really "research" at all, just a description.[[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 20:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::A similar question was previously discussed [[Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research/Archive_15#Audio_recording|here]]. As for your Monopoly comment, an analogy would be stating that "the font used for the stations is directly taken John Doe Magazine". Comparing item A to item B to determine C is original research. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 21:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It's an engaging debate. I think that in adhering to policy two things are needed: 1. Observation of the rules, and 2. Interpretation which respects the spirit of the rules (and not always the strict letter). <br />
:::::To go back to the Monopoly analogy - I would disagree with your comment. I'm not determining where the font was taken from, which requires background knowledge of the process of derivation (ie we 'make up' C as we know A and B, and so draw a causal conclusion). But that's not what I'm saying with the Monopoly example. I am only saying A and B are the same, and not saying one was derived from the other. Fonts have mathematical characteristics and can be identified that way. It it's Times New Roman both times, there's no external reasoning going on.<br />
:::::To use a different argument, say a Beatles album cover featured a photograph of the group. Do I need a source to assert this? Or can I just assert what is patently clear to all? [[Special:Contributions/81.96.164.105|81.96.164.105]] ([[User talk:81.96.164.105|talk]]) 22:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:By stating that one thing matches another, you're still implying that the one thing was derived from the other. This would be especially apparent within the context of the "Track elements" section. Having "so-and-so contains elements of such-and-such" (with a source) right next to "what-and-what was ''previously heard on''" (without a source) seems quite leading. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 23:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing" ==<br />
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Any official word on why the track is credited as "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing", rather than "Drive My Car / What You're Doing / The Word"? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 05:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I believe instrumental bits from "The Word" show up in the medley before "What You're Doing" does. I'll look for a source. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 16:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::The track listing in the article is what it says on the Cd box, regardless of what order they're in in the actual song. (bernsteinp, who wants to log in, but can't) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Iamaphoney ==<br />
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Information on a claim that Iamaphoney found the ''Love'' "code" has been removed from the article. The rationale for the removal is that the claim is not substantiated by a verifiable source. If you wish to discuss the change, please do so in this topic. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 13:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Anyone can claim to have the code. What makes the claim substantial is if a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] publishes it. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:EDIT: If you have found a reliable source, cite it ([[Wikipedia:Citing sources|click here]]). Do not add links to videos containing copyrighted material. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::Ok. {{unsignedIP|62.194.75.248|8 July 2007}}<br />
:::Please also keep in mind that editing an older version of the page removes all contributions that came after that version. Such edits will be undone '''''immediately'''''. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Should any reference to the alleged code be in there at all? Is 'The Rock Radio' really a reliable resource? I've never seen a reference to any such code in any other source. And the claim seems to be placed at a random point in the article as well. [[Special:Contributions/71.57.95.144|71.57.95.144]] ([[User talk:71.57.95.144|talk]]) 07:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The iamaphoney issue rears its ugly head again. The article should not contain anything about his claim whether there is evidence or not. It's not notable. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] 20:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm guessing that the diff that removed the Iamaphoney bit is linked from an outside webpage. Users that edit this version to end up removing all edits that have been made after it. This is a serious problem. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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: In iamaphoney's youtube video on the subject, is that the love version of because being played backwards? (bernsteinp. if you've read the talk page, you know about my problems by now.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Music videos? ==<br />
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What about the highly sophisticated, original music videos for the ''Love'' tracks provided by user ''CapitolRecords'' that keep popping up on YouTube lately (a few have been deleted already)? Have they ever been officially released for sale? --[[User:Tlatosmd|Tlatosmd]] 17:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Hate ==<br />
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There's a wee parody of the album going about called [http://www.thebeatleshate.com/index_eng.html Hate]... doesn't seem you can download from the website anymore, but it's pretty popular on torrent sites. I don't suppose it might be worth a little mention here? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.100.11.130|77.100.11.130]] ([[User talk:77.100.11.130|talk]]) 16:07, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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Brilliant and inspired. The downloads worked for me. [[Special:Contributions/71.205.136.119|71.205.136.119]] ([[User talk:71.205.136.119|talk]]) 15:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== By the Beatles? ==<br />
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The piece starts with the assertion that Love is an album by the Beatles. I think this needs to be considered. It is an album consisting of a collage of their music, but is it really "by" them? If I took a load of shakespeare lines and assembled a stream of quotations for artistic effect, would the resulting work be "by Shakespeare"? [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] 20:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it is a collection of music originally performed by The Beatles, approved for release by surviving members of the band. You could also use the [[fifth Beatle]] argument for George Martin, but I wouldn't. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I have made an alteration to the sentence for clarification. I maintain that while the music is by the Beatles, the album itself is not. The album is a collage, which forms a piece of creative work in itself, using the original songs as materials. It's a small point, but the opening sentence did jar somewhat. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 10:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Carnival of Light==<br />
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I'm not sure, but I think that the transition between Somthing and Being for the Benefit... has a part of Carnival of Light in it. I think I read it in the booklet. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Muchachos|Muchachos]] ([[User talk:Muchachos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Muchachos|contribs]]) 18:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Don't think so. The songs are connected by bits from "Blue Jay Way" and "Nowhere Man", and I think the odd orchestral dubs are from "Mr Kite" itself, although I don't recognise all of them. If there is a bit of "Carnival" in there, it's been slipped in quietly! [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Template Problems==<br />
I fixed the infobox. For some reason, the template said "Template:infobox album" instead of "Template:Single infobox" [[User:mrfunnyd|mrfunnyd]] 17:49, November 30, 2007 (UTC)<br />
:''Love'' is an album, not a single. This is even indicated in the article name, so I'm a bit puzzled as to why you think it's single. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 23:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Double Grammy winner ==<br />
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''Love'' won two Grammies last night - not bad for a group that stopped recording together (with a couple of exceptions) 38 years ago... [[Special:Contributions/147.70.242.40|147.70.242.40]] ([[User talk:147.70.242.40|talk]]) 19:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Love_(Beatles_album)&diff=201296840Talk:Love (Beatles album)2008-03-27T11:10:12Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Includes elements of... */</p>
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== Different track listing ==<br />
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Here's a track listing from this article [http://www.nme.com/news/beatles/24757]:<br />
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'Because'<br />
'Get Back'<br />
'Glass Onion'<br />
'Eleanor Rigby'/'Julia' (Transistion)<br />
'I Am The Walrus'<br />
'I Want To Hold Your Hand'<br />
'Drive My Car'/' The Word'/'What You're Doing'<br />
'Gnik Nus'<br />
'Something'/'Blue Jay Way' (Transition)<br />
'Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite!'/'I Want You (She's So Heavy)'/ 'Helter Skelter'<br />
'Help!'<br />
'Blackbird'/'Yesterday'<br />
'Strawberry Fields Forever'<br />
'Within You Without You'/'Tomorrow Never Knows'<br />
'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds'<br />
'Octopus's Garden'<br />
'Lady Madonna'<br />
'Here Comes The Sun'/'The Inner Light' (Transition)<br />
'Come Together'/'Dear Prudence'/'Cry Baby Cry' (Transition)<br />
'Revolution'<br />
'Back In The USSR'<br />
'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'<br />
'A Day In The Life'<br />
'Hey Jude'<br />
'Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)'<br />
'All You Need Is Love'<br />
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Can anyone determine if either one is correct or incorrect? Thanks. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:And this article, [http://www.therockradio.com/2006/10/beatles-cirque-du-soleil-soundtrack_16.html], actually calls the songs [[mash-ups]]. It also has a track listing. --[[User:Eric Jack Nash|luckymustard]] 15:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Move==<br />
The article "[[LOVE (album)]]" is vacant so there is no need to use the extra "The Beatles" in the title. —☆ '''[[User_talk:CieloEstrellado|CieloEstrellado]]''' 02:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm for it - the reasons make sense to me. [[User:Wagimawr|Jason]] 03:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok, I went ahead and did the move, but there was some non-trivial GFDL history at [[LOVE (album)]], and there was no good way to merge the histories, so I just swapped the pages' locations. Now most of the history can be found here, and some old edits can be found in the history at [[LOVE (The Beatles album)]]. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I've merged any substantial edits into this article's history, and left the old redirects deleted. --[[User:Kingboyk|kingboyk]] 13:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::Shouldn't it be ''Love'' instead of ''LOVE''? --[[User:Lukobe|Lukobe]] 06:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::::It's specifically refered to as ''LOVE'' in cited sources. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Linked songs lead to original recordings ==<br />
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I thought the link to the songs would have entries on the LOVE versions of each song, but to my surprise the link lead me to the song page of the original recording. I was hoping to see a analyst of the song including which bits come from what song. {{unsigned|68.237.177.155}}<br />
:Info will be added to each song's respective article when it is [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cited]]. Entirely new articles for the LOVE versions are not needed. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 19:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Miami Herald ==<br />
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While the Miami Herald is right with the information used and cited in this article (i.e. the song titles), it should be noted that there are errors in the sentence that contains that information. The [http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/music/16063294.htm newspaper article] says: {{cquote|Ringo's drum solo from ''Abbey Road'' and the feedback intro from ''A Hard Day's Night'' meld to launch the driving ''Get Back''.}} There are two things wrong with that sentence. For one, the drum solo is from "The End"; The Beatles never recorded a song called "Abbey Road". And secondly, there is no feedback involved in the first chord of "A Hard Day's Night". Nevertheless, as an outside source, it's useful as a confirmation of what we already know, but can't write because of [[WP:NOR]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it refers to ''Abbey Road'' as an album (hence the italics). Since the only drum solo in the album is in "The End", one can assume that it's the song referenced. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::In that article, both song and album titles are in italics, so it really doesn't help any. You're right about the solo, though. (I'm not sure Ringo got very many drum solos on ''any'' album.) Even so, as it stands, there are still two errors in that sentence. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 21:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The End contains Ringo's ''only'' drum solo, unless of course you include the ”Wild <br />
Drum Track” at the end of Take 7 of Strawberry Fields Forever, included on Anthology II. (this is Bernsteinp, but i can't log in right now -- i forgot my password.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Gnik Nus ==<br />
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Originally, "Gnik Nus" was linked to [[Sun King (song)]]. Then, someone (anonymous, I think) came by and added the note about it being played in reverse. I fixed it up so that it matched the formatting of the list, and unlinked the list entry because it was the only one not the same as the original song. It was then relinked and the note was expanded to say that it "included elements of" Sun King played in reverse. Then all of this was removed, reverting it back to where it started. I'm just wondering, what is the reasoning behind this? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 16:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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==Three Minutes Longer?==<br />
I think how exactly needs to be explained.[[User:213.254.90.177|213.254.90.177]] 01:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
I agree. What is the additional three minutes?<br />
:I've explained this now. The difference is actually less than two minutes. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 09:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Good Night ==<br />
Who erased my addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden"? It's described in the Pitchfork review and obvious to anyone who listens to it. Additionally, while the review doesn't explicitly say it's also incorporated in "All You Need Is Love," it's clearly the same sample. Personally I think [[Wikipedia: No original research]] should be allowed to be bended a bit in a case like this, as something like what song is incorporated into what song is 100% verifiable if you just listen to them. Anyone have any thoughts? --[[User:DanyaRomulus|DanyaRomulus]] 00:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:The addition about "Good Night" being incorporated into "Octopus's Garden" is currently in the article and is cited. Wikipedia's policy on original research is not negotiable, as the [[WP:NOR]] lead clearly states. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not certain as to whether using a song as a source of information is original research. (I'm defaulting to that it is, for now.) To clear this issue up once and for all, I began a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:No original research#Audio recording]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::The audio recording does not specifically state where the sample came from, so it cant be used as a source of cited analysis. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 14:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Includes elements of... ==<br />
Is it just me, or is this track listing going to get out of hand if people keep extending these lists? Given that the Martins have said they've sampled bits of hundreds of songs, I'm sure eventually almost everything in the Beatles' catalogue could be added. And I don't think a track listing is the place for a detailed analysis of the samples and mash-ups. --[[User:KJBracey|KJBracey]] 21:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I'm planning on converting the "includes elements of" notes to a separate section once sufficient information is cited.[[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
I am interested in knowing as many of the songs that are included in each track like most fans, why can't we all agree on what is included and add it, after all the real track listing won't be touched, everyone has that as a basis, it isn't any different adding the story of the wood pigeon to 'Because' than it is to add the drums of 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road?' to 'Lady Madonna'. We should go to town on adding everything we possibly can, obviously by agreeing it first hand, what do you all think?<br />
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== Article Rating ==<br />
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I recently changed the rating of the article to "A", but it was then changed to "B". I'm curious as to the reasoning behind this. It seemed to fit into the "A" class, especially because we've been good and have included references since the beginning. One or all of us should also probably duplicate this information into [[Talk:Love (The Beatles album)/Comments]]. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 01:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:I suppose I'll change it back, then. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::This isn't A - A means it could be FA, which it couldn't. It wouldn't pass GA right now either - it misses important info, namely the critical reception the album has received. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 23:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::"The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic" - this is for A on the assessment scale, and as I just proved this doesn't qualify. It's certainly B, and definitely not A. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 00:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::[http://arts.guardian.co.uk/critic/review/0,,1949613,00.html Guardian album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::[http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,,1943178,00.html Observer album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::[http://www.nme.com/reviews/beatles/8078 NME album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::[http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/r3zf/ BBC album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::[http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/the_beatles/reviews/9044 Uncut album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::::[http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article1988200.ece Independent album review] for use. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 02:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Sgt Pepper in Strawberry Fields ==<br />
I'm a little bemused to why my addition of "Sgt Pepper" to the track elements of "Strawberry Fields FOrever" was deleted. It is very obvious to anyone who has actually listened to this album. [[User:Solipsist3|Solipsist3]] 00:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Likely because of the [[WP:RULES|Wikipedia Policy]] of [[WP:NOR|No Original Research]]. It must be verified by a reliable, outside source in order to be included. <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Citing The Beatles' Love Flash Site ==<br />
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Many new bits of information are presented in interviews on The Beatles' Love [http://www.thebeatles.com/hub/love/site/?sec=listen Listen page]. One such new bit was the recently reverted "Yesterday"/"Blackbird" information. How do we go about citing an audio recording contained fully within a Flash animation? And why don't we go about extracting the new information for the article? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 19:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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== Editing multiple citations ==<br />
Under "Track Elements" I have added some material on "Get Back." This info was found in Reference #13. This means that "Get Back" should have references to #9 ''and'' #13. I can't figure how to make that work. Can someone else?[[User:KXL|KXL]] 14:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Done. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 18:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Come Together End Part ==<br />
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"Can you take me back where I came from", where is this from? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] ([[User talk:67.87.184.150|talk]]) 20:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --><br />
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:"[[Cry Baby Cry]]" as shown in the tracklisting. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:: I can understand whoever-wrote-the-first-bit's confusion; That part isn't in the white album's lyrics, and some consider it to be the beginning of Revolution 9. (this is again bernsteinp. i still can't remember my password). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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:::It isn't really part of either song - it was just a left over piece of ad-libbing by McCartney casually recorded but entirely independently from Lennon's "Cry Baby Cry" and "Revolution 9". It was used as a 'random' link on the White Album. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==GA Nomination==<br />
Can the person who nominated it for GA add a "Reception" section? I named five different sources for a "Reception" section on this talk page awhile back. [[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 22:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==GA review==<br />
The article is well sourced, but it isn't well organized. There should be some sort of Reception section and the Track elements section should be prosified. Keep trying and I'm sure this article will soon reach GA status. -- [[User:Scorpion0422|Scorpion]] 17:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Lady Madonna ==<br />
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The beginning part: could this possibly be "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?". [[User:67.87.184.150|67.87.184.150]] 00:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:It definately is, we could add that in the article - Kyodes <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.42.21.154|213.42.21.154]] ([[User talk:213.42.21.154|talk]]) 17:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
::Not really. See [[WP:NOR]]. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really get this NOR issue when something is clear like this. It's definitely that song, no doubt. Is it really necessary for someone else to have published a statement to the effect? <br />
:::On a similar point, suppose you were doing an article on say the Monopoly board and you stated "there are four stations, called, Xxxx, Xxxx, Xxxx and Xxxx. Is this original research? I would have thought that if we're discussing something verifiable by others, it's not really "research" at all, just a description.[[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 20:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::A similar question was previously discussed [[Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research/Archive_15#Audio_recording|here]]. As for your Monopoly comment, an analogy would be stating that "the font used for the stations is directly taken John Doe Magazine". Comparing item A to item B to determine C is original research. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 21:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It's an engaging debate. I think that in adhering to policy two things are needed: 1. Observation of the rules, and 2. Interpretation which respects the spirit of the rules (and not always the strict letter). <br />
:::::To go back to the Monopoly analogy - I would disagree with your comment. I'm not determining where the font was taken from, which requires background knowledge of the process of derivation (ie we 'make up' C as we know A and B, and so draw a causal conclusion). But that's not what I'm saying with the Monopoly example. I am only saying A and B are the same, and not saying one was derived from the other. Fonts have mathematical characteristics and can be identified that way. It it's Times New Roman both times, there's no external reasoning going on.<br />
:::::To use a different argument, say a Beatles album cover featured a photograph of the group. Do I need a source to assert this? Or can I just assert what is patently clear to all? [[Special:Contributions/81.96.164.105|81.96.164.105]] ([[User talk:81.96.164.105|talk]]) 22:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:By stating that one thing matches another, you're still implying that the one thing was derived from the other. This would be especially apparent within the context of the "Track elements" section. Having "so-and-so contains elements of such-and-such" (with a source) right next to "what-and-what was ''previously heard on''" (without a source) seems quite leading. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] ([[User talk:Just64helpin|talk]]) 23:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing" ==<br />
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Any official word on why the track is credited as "Drive My Car / The Word / What You're Doing", rather than "Drive My Car / What You're Doing / The Word"? <span style="font-size: 110%;">&mdash;'''[[User:GPHemsley|Gordon P. Hemsley]]'''&rarr;<span style="font-size: larger;">[[User talk:GPHemsley|&#x2709;]]</span></span> 05:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I believe instrumental bits from "The Word" show up in the medley before "What You're Doing" does. I'll look for a source. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 16:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::The track listing in the article is what it says on the Cd box, regardless of what order they're in in the actual song. (bernsteinp, who wants to log in, but can't) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Iamaphoney ==<br />
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Information on a claim that Iamaphoney found the ''Love'' "code" has been removed from the article. The rationale for the removal is that the claim is not substantiated by a verifiable source. If you wish to discuss the change, please do so in this topic. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 13:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Anyone can claim to have the code. What makes the claim substantial is if a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] publishes it. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:EDIT: If you have found a reliable source, cite it ([[Wikipedia:Citing sources|click here]]). Do not add links to videos containing copyrighted material. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 17:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::Ok. {{unsignedIP|62.194.75.248|8 July 2007}}<br />
:::Please also keep in mind that editing an older version of the page removes all contributions that came after that version. Such edits will be undone '''''immediately'''''. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Should any reference to the alleged code be in there at all? Is 'The Rock Radio' really a reliable resource? I've never seen a reference to any such code in any other source. And the claim seems to be placed at a random point in the article as well. [[Special:Contributions/71.57.95.144|71.57.95.144]] ([[User talk:71.57.95.144|talk]]) 07:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The iamaphoney issue rears its ugly head again. The article should not contain anything about his claim whether there is evidence or not. It's not notable. [[User:John Cardinal|John Cardinal]] 20:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm guessing that the diff that removed the Iamaphoney bit is linked from an outside webpage. Users that edit this version to end up removing all edits that have been made after it. This is a serious problem. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 21:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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: In iamaphoney's youtube video on the subject, is that the love version of because being played backwards? (bernsteinp. if you've read the talk page, you know about my problems by now.) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.145.151.54|24.145.151.54]] ([[User talk:24.145.151.54|talk]]) 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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== Music videos? ==<br />
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What about the highly sophisticated, original music videos for the ''Love'' tracks provided by user ''CapitolRecords'' that keep popping up on YouTube lately (a few have been deleted already)? Have they ever been officially released for sale? --[[User:Tlatosmd|Tlatosmd]] 17:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Hate ==<br />
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There's a wee parody of the album going about called [http://www.thebeatleshate.com/index_eng.html Hate]... doesn't seem you can download from the website anymore, but it's pretty popular on torrent sites. I don't suppose it might be worth a little mention here? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.100.11.130|77.100.11.130]] ([[User talk:77.100.11.130|talk]]) 16:07, August 30, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
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Brilliant and inspired. The downloads worked for me. [[Special:Contributions/71.205.136.119|71.205.136.119]] ([[User talk:71.205.136.119|talk]]) 15:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== By the Beatles? ==<br />
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The piece starts with the assertion that Love is an album by the Beatles. I think this needs to be considered. It is an album consisting of a collage of their music, but is it really "by" them? If I took a load of shakespeare lines and assembled a stream of quotations for artistic effect, would the resulting work be "by Shakespeare"? [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] 20:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Well, it is a collection of music originally performed by The Beatles, approved for release by surviving members of the band. You could also use the [[fifth Beatle]] argument for George Martin, but I wouldn't. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 20:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I have made an alteration to the sentence for clarification. I maintain that while the music is by the Beatles, the album itself is not. The album is a collage, which forms a piece of creative work in itself, using the original songs as materials. It's a small point, but the opening sentence did jar somewhat. [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 10:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Carnival of Light==<br />
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I'm not sure, but I think that the transition between Somthing and Being for the Benefit... has a part of Carnival of Light in it. I think I read it in the booklet. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Muchachos|Muchachos]] ([[User talk:Muchachos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Muchachos|contribs]]) 18:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--><br />
:Don't think so. The songs are connected by bits from "Blue Jay Way" and "Nowhere Man", and I think the odd orchestral dubs are from "Mr Kite" itself, although I don't recognise all of them. If there is a bit of "Carnival" in there, it's been slipped in quietly! [[User:MegdalePlace|MegdalePlace]] ([[User talk:MegdalePlace|talk]]) 11:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Template Problems==<br />
I fixed the infobox. For some reason, the template said "Template:infobox album" instead of "Template:Single infobox" [[User:mrfunnyd|mrfunnyd]] 17:49, November 30, 2007 (UTC)<br />
:''Love'' is an album, not a single. This is even indicated in the article name, so I'm a bit puzzled as to why you think it's single. [[User:Just64helpin|Just64helpin]] 23:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Double Grammy winner ==<br />
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''Love'' won two Grammies last night - not bad for a group that stopped recording together (with a couple of exceptions) 38 years ago... [[Special:Contributions/147.70.242.40|147.70.242.40]] ([[User talk:147.70.242.40|talk]]) 19:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles_albums_discography&diff=198882767The Beatles albums discography2008-03-17T16:25:19Z<p>Paul McMarkney: /* Future Releases */</p>
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<div>'''[[The Beatles]]''' released twelve original [[album]]s, twelve [[Extended play|EP]]s (featuring mostly otherwise available material), one [[double EP]], and twenty-two [[single (music)|singles]] (featuring mostly otherwise unavailable material) in eight years ([[1962]]-[[1970]]) in their native [[United Kingdom]]. Their international discography is complicated, however, due to sometimes different versions of their albums released in other countries, particularly in their early years on [[Capitol Records]] in the [[United States]]. In addition, most of their releases are available in both [[monaural|mono]] and [[stereo]] mixes.<br />
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==Historical background==<br />
The first seven Beatles albums appeared in different versions in the U.S., where [[Capitol Records]] mixed UK album tracks with UK single tracks to create different albums altogether, with different titles, track listings, and often different audio mixes. The first eight of these records have been released on CD as ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' (2004) and ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' (2006). The Capitol release of ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' is preferred by some over its UK counterpart, due to its more folky flavour{{Fact|date=June 2007}}; it was this version of the album that greatly influenced the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, who "answered" it by releasing ''[[Pet Sounds]]'' in 1966{{Fact|date=June 2007}}. Upon the release of ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' in [[1967]], the Beatles albums had the same track listing in both the U.S. and the UK (The only exception to this is ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'', which was released as a [[double EP]] in the UK, and a longer [[LP album|LP]] in the U.S.).<br />
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The first ten (of twelve) Beatles albums were released in both mono and stereo mixes. However, stereo record players were rare at the time, so producer [[George Martin]] and the Beatles gave more time and attention to preparing mono mixes of their recordings, particularly for their early records. Therefore, the mono versions are considered by many to be the "official" versions, as opposed to the stereo releases. In fact, when the Beatles discography was released on [[Compact disc|CD]] in the 1980s, the mono mixes of the first four albums were used, rather than the stereo mixes. However, the last two albums, [[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]] and [[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]], were mixed and released in stereo only.<br />
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The Beatles UK discography was released on CD in the late 1980s. However, the sound of the digital transfers of the current discs, produced by George Martin in 1987 and 1988 using the best equipment available during the early days of the format, no longer meet standards achievable using current techniques. The sound on the remastered catalogues of [[Bob Dylan]], the [[Bee Gees]], the [[The Beach Boys|Beach Boys]], and the [[The Rolling Stones|Rolling Stones]], among other heavyweights from the 1960s, have been greatly enhanced using technological developments that have occurred since Martin's initial digital mastering, and as of 2007, similar work for the Beatles is long overdue. In addition, many Beatles enthusiasts feel that the CD releases of the albums are inferior because the recordings were originally mastered to be played on vinyl, which, when played back, arguably possess a warm sound which CDs are not able to reproduce. Many purists today still listen to Beatles albums only on vinyl.{{Fact|date=June 2007}}<br />
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Olivia Harrison recently stated that the Beatles songs and albums had been remastered, and were in the final production stage. However, Harrison did state that she feels these may not be released until the end of 2008, possibly due to changes that may need to be made. <ref>http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/beatles_online_deal_seen_for_2008.html</ref><br />
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==Studio albums==<br />
===UK albums===<br />
This is a listing of the official studio albums released in the [[United Kingdom|UK]] by [[The Beatles]] (not including compilations).<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Please Please Me]]'' ('''#1''' for 30 weeks, plus another 20 weeks at #2; 74 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Parlophone Records|Parlophone]] PMC 1202 (Mono)/PCS 3042 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-03-22]] and [[1963-04-26]] (Mono and stereo respectively)<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
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{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[With the Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks, plus another 10 weeks at #2; 53 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1206 (Mono)/PCS 3045 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-22]]<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
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|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br>"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)]]"<br />
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|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks; 43 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1230 (Mono)/PCS 3058 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-10]]<br />
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{|<br />
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|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br />
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|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles for Sale]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 48 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1240 (Mono)/PCS 3062 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-04]]<br />
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{|<br />
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|'''Side two'''<br />
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|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br>"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br>"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
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{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1255 (Mono)/PCS 3071 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-06]]<br />
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{|<br />
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|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
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|valign="top"|"[["Help!" (song)|Help!]]"<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"[[You're Going to Lose That Girl]]"<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Act Naturally]]"<br>"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br />
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|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 47 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1267 (Mono)/PCS 3075 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-03]]<br />
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|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Girl (The Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
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|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
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|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 7 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 46 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7009 (Mono)/PCS 7009 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-05]]<br />
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|'''Side two'''<br />
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|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[Doctor Robert]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
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{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 27 weeks, plus another 5 weeks at #2; 201 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7027 (Mono)/PCS 7027 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-01]]<br />
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|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]"<br>"[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]"<br>"[[Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds]]"<br>"[[Getting Better]]"<br>"[[Fixing a Hole]]"<br>"[[She's Leaving Home]]"<br>"[[Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Within You Without You]]"<br>"[[When I'm Sixty-Four]]"<br>"[[Lovely Rita]]"<br>"[[Good Morning Good Morning]]"<br>"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)]]"<br>"[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
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{|<br />
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|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ("The White Album") ('''#1''' for 8 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 24 weeks on chart)<br />
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|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Parlophone PMC 7067-7068 (Mono)/PCS 7067-7068 (Stereo)<br />
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|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-22]]<br />
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|'''Side two'''<br />
|'''Side three'''<br />
|'''Side four'''<br />
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|valign="top"|"[[Back in the U.S.S.R.]]"<br>"[[Dear Prudence]]"<br>"[[Glass Onion]]"<br>"[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]"<br>"[[Wild Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill]]"<br>"[[While My Guitar Gently Weeps]]"<br>"[[Happiness Is a Warm Gun]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Martha My Dear]]"<br>"[[I'm So Tired]]"<br>"[[Blackbird (song)|Blackbird]]"<br>"[[Piggies]]"<br>"[[Rocky Raccoon]]"<br>"[[Don't Pass Me By]]"<br>"[[Why Don't We Do It in the Road?]]"<br>"[[I Will]]"<br>"[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Birthday (song)|Birthday]]"<br>"[[Yer Blues]]"<br>"[[Mother Nature's Son]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey|Everybody's Got Something to Hide<br> Except Me and My Monkey]]"<br>"[[Sexy Sadie (song)|Sexy Sadie]]"<br>"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br>"[[Long, Long, Long]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Revolution 1]]"<br>"[[Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[Savoy Truffle]]"<br>"[[Cry Baby Cry]]"<br>"[[Revolution 9]]"<br>"[[Good Night (song)|Good Night]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#3; 11 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PMC 7070 (Mono)/PCS 7070 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-17]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two''' (Instrumental, conducted by George Martin)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[Only a Northern Song]]"<br>"[[All Together Now (The Beatles song)|All Together Now]]"<br>"[[Hey Bulldog]]"<br>"[[It's All Too Much]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"Pepperland"<br>"Sea of Time"<br>"Sea of Holes"<br>"Sea of Monsters"<br>"March of the Meanies" <br>"Pepperland Laid Waste"<br>"Yellow Submarine in Pepperland"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 17 weeks – debut at #1, plus 1 week at #2; 92 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PCS 7088 Albums in stereo only from this point on.<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-09-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Come Together]]"<br>"[[Something]]"<br>"[[Maxwell's Silver Hammer]]"<br>"[[Oh! Darling]]"<br>"[[Octopus's Garden]]"<br>"[[I Want You (She's So Heavy)]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Here Comes the Sun]]"<br>"[[Because (The Beatles song)|Because]]"<br>"[[You Never Give Me Your Money]]"<br>"[[Sun King (song)|Sun King]]"<br>"[[Mean Mr. Mustard]]"<br>"[[Polythene Pam]]"<br>"[[She Came in Through the Bathroom Window]]"<br>"[[Golden Slumbers (The Beatles)|Golden Slumbers]]"<br>"[[Carry That Weight]]"<br>"[[The End (The Beatles song)|The End]]"<br>"[[Her Majesty (song)|Her Majesty]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 3 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 60 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PXS 1 (Box Set) /PCS 7096 (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-08]] (Box Set)<br>[[1970-11-06]] (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Two of Us (1969 song)|Two of Us]]"<br>"[[Dig a Pony]]"<br>"[[Across the Universe]]"<br>"[[I Me Mine]]"<br>"[[Dig It]]"<br>"[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"<br>"[[Maggie Mae]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Got a Feeling]]"<br>"[[One After 909]]"<br>"[[The Long and Winding Road]]"<br>"[[For You Blue]]"<br>"[[Get Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. albums===<br />
In the [[United States]], as noted above, The Beatles albums were rearranged, retitled and remixed. Some of the U.S. releases were nearly identical to their UK counterparts, often only varying by one or two songs. Most releases contained songs that were also found on other records, which made things difficult for the American Beatles fan trying to purchase the band's entire catalogue. By 1967, beginning with ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'', all U.S. releases matched the UK releases exactly (with the exception of the UK double EP ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' (1967), which was released as an LP in the U.S. and included extra tracks not found on the UK release).<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Introducing... The Beatles]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 49 weeks on chart) (2/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Vee-Jay Records|Vee-Jay]] VJLP 1062 (Mono)/VJSR 1062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-07-22]], and [[1964-01-27]] (Versions 1 and 2 respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]" ("[[Ask Me Why]]" on Version 2)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]" ("[[Please Please Me]]" on Version 2)<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Meet the Beatles!]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 71 weeks on chart) (2/8/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 2047 (Mono)/ST 2047 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks; 55 weeks on chart) (4/25/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2080 (Mono)/ST 2080 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-04-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)|Money]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)#The American release|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 14 weeks; 51 weeks on chart) (7/18/1964) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[United Artists Records|United Artists]] UAL 3366 (Mono)/UAS 6366 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-06-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"Ringo's Theme (This Boy)" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br>"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 41 weeks on chart) (8/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2108 (Mono)/ST 2108 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[Slow Down]]"<br>"[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles '65]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks; 71 weeks on chart) (1/9/1965-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2228 (Mono)/ST 2228 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-15]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br>"[[She's a Woman]]"<br>"[[I Feel Fine]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Early Beatles]]'' (#43; 35 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2309 (Mono)/ST 2309 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-03-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles VI]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart) (7/10/1965)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2358 (Mono)/ST 2358 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-06-14]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br>"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Bad Boy (Larry Williams song)|Bad Boy]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Yes It Is]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)#American release|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another week at #2; 44 weeks on chart) (9/11/1965) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2386 (Mono)/SMAS 2386 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" (with "[[James Bond Theme]]" intro)<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]] Fantasy" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"In the Tyrol" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"Another Hard Day's Night" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br>"The Bitter End/[[You Can't Do That]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You're Gonna Lose That Girl]]"<br>"The Chase" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (1/8/1966-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2442 (Mono)/ST 2442 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[Girl (Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yesterday . . . and Today|Yesterday… and Today]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 31 weeks on chart) (7/16/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2553 (Mono)/ST 2553 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-06-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Dr. Robert]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[We Can Work It Out]]"<br>"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 77 weeks on chart) (9/10/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2576 (Mono)/ST 2576 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-08]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 15 weeks, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 175 weeks on chart) (6/24/1967) "Grammy Award Winner for the Album of the Year in[[1967]]"<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2653 (Mono)/SMAS 2653 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-02]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release. It should be noted, though, that the two seconds of gibberish placed on the concentric groove of the UK release was left off the U.S. release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks; 91 weeks on chart) (12/30/1967+) (1/6/1968-) {The Movie Soundtrack & 1967 singles}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAL 2835 (Mono)/SMAL 2835 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-11-27]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Magical Mystery Tour (song)|Magical Mystery Tour]]"<br>"[[The Fool on the Hill]]"<br>"[[Flying (song)|Flying]]"<br>"[[Blue Jay Way]]"<br>"[[Your Mother Should Know]]"<br>"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Hello, Goodbye]]"<br>"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br>"[[Penny Lane]]"<br>"[[Baby, You're a Rich Man]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 155 weeks on chart) (12/14/1968)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Capitol SWBO 101 (All albums in stereo only from this point on)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#2 for 2 weeks – kept off the top spot by ''The White Album''; 25 weeks on chart) (2/15/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SW 153<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 7 weeks at #2; 129 weeks on chart) (10/25/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SO 383<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-10-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 4 weeks, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (6/6/1970) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/United Artists AR 34001<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-18]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian albums===<br />
The division of [[Capitol Records]] in [[Canada]] released three unique albums and nine singles in 1963 and 1964 before aligning with the American division and releasing the same albums as in the U.S. The first Canadian release was the "[[Love Me Do]]" single (72076) on [[1963-02-04]].<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatlemania! With the Beatles]]'' (#1 CAN, 6 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 6051 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Track listing identical to the British album ''[[With the Beatles]]''.<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Twist and Shout (Beatles Canada album)|Twist and Shout]]'' (#1 CAN, 10 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6054 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]]''<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]''<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Long Tall Sally]]'' (#1 CAN, 5 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6063 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-05-11]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
After this album, Capitol of Canada synchronised its catalogue production with the U.S. market, beginning with United Artists' ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' and concluding with Apple's ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''. Notably, the albums ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' and ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'' were only produced in mono when originally released. In 1967 the American back catalogue was released in Canada:<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'', ST 2080 (Stereo)/ T 2080 (Mono), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Meet The Beatles]]'', ST 2047 (Stereo), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Something New]]'', ST 2108, February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', STBO 2222 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
* ''[[The Early Beatles]]'', ST 2309 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
<br />
==Compilations and other releases==<br />
===UK compilations and other releases===<br />
* ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1966-12-09]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' First]]'' [[Polydor Records]] ([[1967-08-04]]) (British issue of the 1964 German LP)<br />
* ''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album") Apple Records #3([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 3)<br />
* ''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album") Apple Records #2([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 4)<br />
:Note: Two double compilation albums, featuring as covers an alternate shot of the photograph originally taken for ''Please Please Me'' and a [[1969]] re-creation (originally for ''Get Back'', which evolved into ''Let It Be'') based upon that photograph.<br />
* ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-06-10]]) #11<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-11-19]]) [sic] (Official UK issue of the American album using the Capitol masters, except for "Penny Lane," "Baby You're a Rich Man," and "All You Need is Love," which were the German mixes released on the Hör Zu! label in 1971. It became part of the official catalogue with its release on CD with every track in true-stereo. As an American import, the album peaked at #31 in 1968. Continued sales of the album as an import led to this release.)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-05-06]]) (Live performances from [[1964-08-23]] and [[1965-08-30]] at the [[Hollywood Bowl]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-19]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-02]]) (A 14-record box set containing all of [[The Beatles discography#Studio albums|The Beatles' original Parlophone/Apple LPs]] along with ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'')<br />
* ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1978-12-02]]) (Although not made explicit on the sleeve, this album consisted of every Parlophone and Apple Beatles B-side and EP track which had not been included on their UK studio albums, or on the 1973 "Red" and "Blue" Albums. It included 2 songs in German ("Sie Liebt Dich" and "Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand"), a song recorded for an American album and an alternative version of "Across The Universe") #71<br />
* ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1979-05-11]]) (Official UK issue of American album)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1980-10-13]]) (compilation) #17<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box]]'' Parlophone Records/World Records ([[1980-11-03]]) (This is an 8-record compilation which was available by mail order only)<br />
* ''[[Reel Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-03-29]]) (compilation of tracks from The Beatles' films) Did not chart<br />
* ''The Beatles Mono Collection'' Parlophone/Apple (1982-10-??) (box set - 10 chronological mono Beatle albums from ''[[Please Please Me]]'' to ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' excluding ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]''. Intended for export, originally in a red box similar to ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', reissued later in black)<br />
* ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-10-18]]) #10<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1962-1965 and other songs that were left off earlier albums) #49<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1965-1970 and other songs that were left off later albums) #46<br />
:Note: The reason for the Past Masters compilations are so that every song The Beatles released in 1962-1970 could be on a CD. They include singles and B-sides, two songs sung in German, the contents of an EP released in 1964 that had four additional songs, the "single" versions of the songs "Get Back" and "Let It Be", and a version of "Across the Universe" that had bird-like sound effects. ''Past Masters'' was also issued as a 2-LP set on [[1988-11-10]].<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Apple/Parlophone Records ([[1988-12-05]]) (contains the official Apple/Parlophone Beatle catalogue on CD including the two Past Masters volumes along with a soft cover book by [[Mark Lewisohn]] describing every track in this collection which is contained in a roll top wooden box)<br />
* ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' Apple Records ([[1994-11-30]]) (Contains 69 songs The Beatles recorded for various [[BBC]] radio shows that never were recorded for Parlophone/Capitol/EMI. #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 1]]'' Apple Records ([[1995-11-21]]) (Containing early performances, live shows, demos, out-takes in the period [[1958]] to [[1964]] and the first "new" Beatles song since the band broke up in [[1970]]) #2<br />
* ''[[Anthology 2]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-03-18]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, live shows, demos, and out-takes from [[1965]] to [[1968]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 3]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-10-28]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, demos, and out-takes in the period [[1968]] to [[1970]]) #4<br />
* ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'' Apple Records ([[1999-09-13]]) #8<br />
* ''[[The Beatles 1]]'' Apple Records ([[2000-11-13]]) (A collection of The Beatles' #1 hits on the Billboard [U.S.] and Record Retailer [UK] charts, including ''both'' sides of their double-A sided singles if both hit the top slot. The collection has 27 songs in it.) #1<br />
* ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'' Apple Records ([[2003-11-17]]) (Remastered and remixed cut from the original sessions, devoid of arrangements by "re-producer" [[Phil Spector]]. The first copies released shipped with a 21-minute ''Fly on the Wall'' bonus disc.) #7<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2004-11-15]]) (A re-issuing of the first four Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2006-04-11]]) (A re-issuing of The Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. in [[1965]]. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'' Apple Records ([[2006-11-20]]) #3 (A soundtrack to the [[Cirque du Soleil]] production [[Love (Cirque du Soleil)|Love]], featuring remastered and remixed versions of the Beatles' songs by Sir George Martin and his son [[Giles Martin]])<br />
<br />
===U.S. compilations and other releases===<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', Capitol TBO 2222 (Mono)/STBO 2222 (Stereo ([[1964-11-23]]) #7 (12/19/1964+) (1/2/1965-)<br />
*''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'', Apple/Capitol SW 385 ([[1970-02-26]]) #2(4) (3/21/1970)<br />
*''[[In the Beginning (Circa 1960)]]'', [[Polydor Records]] 24-4504 ([[1970-05-04]]) #117<br />
*''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album"), Apple SKBO-3403 ([[1973-04-02]]) #3 (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album"), Apple SKBO-3404 ([[1973-04-02]]) #1(1) (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1976-06-07]]) #2(2) (6/26/1976)<br />
*''[[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]]'', [[Lingasong]] ([[May 2]], [[1977]]) #111<br />
*''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-05-04]]) #2(2) (5/21/1977)<br />
*''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-10-21]]) #24 (11/19/1977)<br />
*''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', Capitol Records ([[1979-12-01]]) (Unlike the British release, the American issue was a limited edition with only 3000 copies made. The British release which was not a limited edition became a popular import for the U.S. market as a result.)<br />
*''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'', Capitol SHAL-12060 ([[1980-03-24]]) #21 (4/19/1980)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Reel Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-03-22]]) #19 (4/10/1982)<br />
*''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-10-11]]) #50<br />
*''[[Please Please Me]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[With the Beatles]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Beatles for Sale]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Rubber Soul]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]]'')<br />
: (The above 1987 CD releases mark the first official releases for The Beatles' early British albums in the U.S.)<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #149<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #121<br />
:(''Past Masters'' as a 2-LP set was issued by Capitol Records on [[1988-10-24]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-11-15]])<br />
*''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'', Capitol Records ([[1994-12-06]]) #3 (12/24/1994+) (1/8/1995-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[1995-11-21]]) #1 (12/9/1995+) (1/13/1996-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-03-19]]) #1 (4/20/1996)<br />
*''[[Anthology 3]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-10-29]]) #1 (11/23/1996+) (1/3/1997-)<br />
*''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'', Capitol Records ([[1999-09-14]]) #15 (10/2/1999)<br />
*''[[The Beatles 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2000-11-14]]) #1 (12/2/2000+) (1/6/2001-)<br />
*''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'', Capitol Records ([[2003-11-18]]) #5 (12/13/2003+) (1/17/2004-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2004-11-16]]) #35 (12/4/2004+) (1/1/2005-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-04-11]]) #46<br />
*''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-11-21]]) #4 (12/16/2006+) (1/20/2007-)<br />
<br />
===Canadian compilations and other releases=== <br />
All post-Beatles albums were released exactly the same in Canada as in the U.S., with the exception of:<br />
* ''[[Very Together]]'', Polydor (Fall [[1969]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'', Capitol Records ([[1980-10-13]])<br />
<br />
==Extended plays (EPs)==<br />
During the years that the Beatles were together and recording, album tracks were not customarily released as singles, and vice versa. Instead, [[EMI]] would release album tracks as EPs, long singles with two songs per side. With two exceptions, the EPs feature songs also available on Beatles albums, rather than original material.<br />
<br />
===UK EPs===<br />
* ''[[Twist and Shout (EP)|Twist and Shout]]'' ([[1963-07-12]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Hits]]'' ([[1963-09-06]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (No. 1) (EP)|The Beatles (No. 1)]]'' ([[1963-11-01]])<br />
* ''[[All My Loving (EP)|All My Loving]]'' ([[1964-02-07]])<br />
* ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' ([[1964-06-19]]) The first Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material, including the [[Lennon-McCartney]] original "[[I Call Your Name]]".<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the film)]]'' ([[1964-11-04]])<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the album)]]'' ([[1964-11-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (EP)|Beatles for Sale]]'' ([[1965-04-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (No. 2)]]'' ([[1965-06-04]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Million Sellers]]'' ([[1965-12-06]])<br />
* ''[[Yesterday (EP)|Yesterday]]'' ([[1966-03-04]])<br />
* ''[[Nowhere Man (EP)|Nowhere Man]]'' ([[1966-07-08]])<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ([[1967-12-08]]); #2 (in the UK singles chart topped by "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"). The second Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material. This record consisted of the original songs recorded by the Beatles for the "Magical Mystery Tour" film.<br />
*''[[The Beatles EP Collection]]'', Parlophone ([[1981-12-07]]) (15-disc 7" EP set, featuring all 13 Beatles British EPs, with both mono and stereo editions of [[Magical Mystery Tour]] plus an EP of 4 stereo mixes, new to the UK, of "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]", housed in a blue flip-top box similar to [[The Beatles Collection]]. The set was issued on CD in a black box for the first time in the UK on ([[1992-05-26]] with releases in the U.S. and Japan in the following month)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (EP)|The Beatles]]'' ([[1981-12-07]]) (a rarities' EP featuring "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]")<br />
<br />
===U.S. EPs===<br />
* ''[[Souvenir of Their Visit to America]]'' (Vee Jay Records) ([[1964-03-23]])<br />
* ''[[Four by the Beatles]]'' ([[1964-05-11]])<br />
* ''[[4-by the Beatles]]'' ([[1965-02-01]])<br />
* ''[[Baby It's You (Shirelles)|Baby It's You]]'' ([[1995-03-23]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]'' ([[1995-12-12]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' ([[1996-03-05]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
<br />
==Singles==<br />
The [[UK Singles Chart]] is compiled solely from sales figures; airplay statistics are not used. For this reason the chart positions for the UK Singles are indicated per disc, not per song. '''Pos''' column indicates the peak position in the charts. <br />
<br />
===UK singles===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="width: 2em" | Pos<br />
! style="min-width: 28em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-01-05]]<br />
| #48<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| {{nowrap|Polydor NH 66-833}}<br />
| (by "[[Tony Sheridan]] & The Beatles")[http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/hamburg.html]<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-10-05]]<br />
| #17<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-01-11]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4983<br />
| (#1 in [[N.M.E]]'s chart)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5015<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-08-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-11-29]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5084<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-20]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" / "[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5114<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-29]]<br />
| #29<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[If You Love Me, Baby]]"<br />
| Polydor NH 52-317<br />
| ([[B-side]] with [[Tony Sheridan]], vocal)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" / "[[Things We Said Today]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5160<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-27]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" / "[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5200<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-09]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" / "[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5265<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" / "[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5305<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-03]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" / "[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5389<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-06-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5452<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-05]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5493<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-17]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5570<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-07]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5620<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-24]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5655<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-15]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5675<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple R5722<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple R5777<br />
| (The Beatles with [[Billy Preston]])<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple R5786<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-31]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Something]]" / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple R5814<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-06]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple R5833<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-03-08]]<br />
| #8<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6013<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-29]]<br />
| #19<br />
| "[[Back in the USSR]]" / "[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6016<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-09-30]]<br />
| #63<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6022<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-05-25]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-11-19]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-12-06]]<br />
| <br />
| ''[[The Beatles Singles Collection]]''<br />
| Parlophone BSC 1<br />
| <small>22-disc 7" singles set, featuring the complete Beatles EMI singles catalogue, with new picture sleeves for many of the discs. The set was first issued on CD in the UK 1992-11-02, and in the U.S. 1992-11-09. The set was first packaged in Japan using a longbox housing the complete set of 3" CD singles in December 1989.</small><br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-03-20]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Shirelles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple R6406<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple R6422<br />
| (first new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" / "[[Baby's in Black]]"<br />
| Apple R6425<br />
| (second new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. singles===<br />
The [[Billboard Hot 100]] chart in the U.S. is compiled from sales <strong>and</strong> airplay statistics, so the individual songs on any given disc can be charted separately.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| (Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 498<br />
| (Early pressings misspelled as The Beattles)<!-- both misspellings existed on the released singles --><br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-05-27]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#116</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 522<br />
| <br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (first release; white label with red print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> (1/25/1964-)[A] / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#14</sup> (1/25/1964-)[B]<br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-25]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/1/1964) / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (second release; black label with silver print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-27]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" <sup>#26</sup> (3/7/1964) / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| MGM 13213<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-30]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]" <sup>#3</sup> (2/22/1964) / "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#41</sup><br />
| Vee-Jay 581<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-08]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#45</sup> / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#68</sup> / "[[Please Mister Postman]]"<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-02]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#2</sup> (3/21/1964) / "[[There's a Place]]" <sup>#74</sup><br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/28/1964) / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#48</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-23]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]" <sup>#2</sup> (4/11/1964) / "[[Thank You Girl]]" <sup>#35</sup> (4/25/1964)<br />
| Vee-Jay 587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" <sup>#88</sup> / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-27]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/2/1964) / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]" <sup>#10</sup> (5/16/1964)<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-21]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" (She Loves You) <sup>#97</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4182<br />
| (German, A-side shown as "DIE BEATLES")<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-01]]<br />
| "[[Sweet Georgia Brown]]" / "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby"<br />
| Atco 6302<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" <sup>#19</sup> (8/1/1964) / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/18/1964) / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#25</sup> (8/15/1964) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#95</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#12</sup> (8/8/1964) / "[[If I Fell]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#17</sup> (9/19/1964) / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#25</sup> (9/26/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/5/1964) / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#4</sup> (12/12/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/27/1965) / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#39</sup> (3/20/1965)<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/1/1965) / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#46</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> (8/14/1965) / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#101</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/2/1965) / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#47</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/18/1965+) (1/8/1966-) / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#5</sup> (12/25/1965+) (1/22/1966-)<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#3</sup> (3/5/1966) / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]" <sup>#81</sup><br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> (6/11/1966) / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]] <sup>#23</sup> (6/25/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#2</sup> (8/27/1966) / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#11</sup> (9/10/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/4/1967) / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#8</sup> (3/11/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/29/1967) / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]" <sup>#34</sup> (8/12/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/9/1967) / "[[I Am the Walrus]]" <sup>#56</sup><br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#4</sup> (3/23/1968) / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]" <sup>#96</sup><br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> (9/14/1968) [A] / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#12</sup> (9/14/1968) [B]<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/10/1969) [A] / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#35</sup> (5/10/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" <sup>#8</sup> (6/21/1969) / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B] / "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/21/1970) / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [A] / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [B]<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#7</sup> (6/19/1976) / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#49</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" <sup>#71</sup> / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" <sup>#12</sup> (4/10/1982) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#23</sup> (8/30/1986) / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> (12/30/1995+) (1/6/1996-) / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| first new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> (3/23/1996) / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| second new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian singles===<br />
As appeared on the "[[CHUM Chart|CHUM Hit Parade]]" charts between the weeks of Monday [[6 January]] [[1963]] and Saturday [[8 January]] [[1977]].<ref>http://www.1050chum.com/index_chumcharts.aspx?artist=7600</ref> Capitol of Canada said yes to The Beatles from day one and issued early Beatle singles in their 72000 series of Canada only releases<ref>http://www.capitol6000.com/protected/7200045s.htm</ref> before aligning with the American company's numbering system when the American company began issuing Beatle singles. American Beatle recordings issued on the Vee-Jay, Swan and Tollie labels were issued by Capitol of Canada with 72000 series catalogue numbers. Capitol Canada was the only country outside of the U.K. to issue version 1 of "Love Me Do" with Ringo on the drums.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| Test Pressing, never issued<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-03]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#8</sup> / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72076<br />
| #8 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-23<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72090<br />
| #5 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-09<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-06-18]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Capitol 72101<br />
| #6 on 1964-03-09<br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72125<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-01-20<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-09]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| First Canadian Beatle single to make charts almost immediately upon release.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-02-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-17]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[This Boy]]" <sup>#1</sup> [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-03-23. This Boy held the #1 spot alone after All My Loving had fallen to #5 in week six.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[There's a Place]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72146<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#3</sup> / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#33</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-20]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret?]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72159<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-15]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why|Ask My Way]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72162<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-08-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#20</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#15</sup> / "[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#6</sup><br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1964-12-21<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1965-03-15<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-05-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-08-16<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1965-10-11<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1965-12-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1966-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-08-29<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-02-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1967-08-07<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-12-04<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1968-04-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1968-09-14<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1969-05-17, (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Banned from Canadian Radio stations nationwide<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1969-11-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" / "[[Something]]" <br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| Released with A-side as B-side<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1970-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1970-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#19</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| <br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Christmas records==<br />
The Beatles also recorded annual Christmas records for their fan club members. From 1963 to 1969 these were released as 7" flexidiscs on LYN. In 1970 the 7 previous records were put onto a 12" vinyl record, ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]''. These remain largely unavailable today (although they have been widely bootlegged), with the exception of one track, "Christmas Time Is Here Again", which was edited and released on the ''Free As a Bird'' CD single in [[1994]]: <br />
*''The Beatles Christmas Record'', LYN 492 ([[1963]])<br />
*''Season's Greetings from The Beatles'', LYN 757 ([[1964]])<br />
*''The Beatles 3rd Christmas Record'', LYN 948 ([[1965]])<br />
*''Everywhere It's Christmas'', LYN 1145 ([[1966]])<br />
*''Christmas Time Is Here Again'', LYN 1360 ([[1967]])<br />
*''Beatles 1968 Christmas Record'', LYN 1743/4 ([[1968]])<br />
*''Happy Christmas 1969'', LYN 1970/1 ([[1969]])<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]'', (UK) [[Apple Records|Apple]] LYN 2154 / ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album]]'' (U.S.) Apple SBC 100 ([[1970]])<br />
<br />
==Sales figures==<br />
===[[RIAA]] and [[Soundscan]] albums===<br />
US Sales figures.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
!scope="col"| Album<br />
!scope="col"| RIAA<br />
!scope="col"| Soundscan<br />
!scope="col"| [[United World Chart]]<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]''<br />
| {{nowrap|19x [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Platinum]] ([[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Diamond]] plus nine)}}<br />
| 3,125,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1967–1970]]''<br />
| 16x Platinum (Diamond plus six)<br />
| 2,568,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1962–1966]]''<br />
| 15x Platinum (Diamond plus five)<br />
| 2,214,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]''<br />
| 12x Platinum (Diamond plus two)<br />
| 3,910,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''{{nowrap|[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]}}''<br />
| 11x Platinum (Diamond plus one)<br />
| 3,825,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles 1]]''<br />
| 10x Platinum (Diamond)<br />
| 11,107,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 1]]''<br />
| 8x Platinum<br />
| 3,666,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,161,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,525,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rubber Soul]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 2,274,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Meet the Beatles!|Meet The Beatles!]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 50,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 1,889,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,232,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,149,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,518,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 2]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,739,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles '65]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 24,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 68,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 94,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 3]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 1,363,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 821,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 20,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles for Sale]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 594,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles VI]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,147,000<br />
| +1,871,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 826,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,164,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Please Please Me]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 772,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 216,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 230,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Early Beatles]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 19,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,090,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yesterday...and Today]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 26,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,670,000 <br />
| 4,395,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]''<br />
| [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Gold]]<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Reel Music]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 16,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Story]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 3,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 78,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[With the Beatles]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 563,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 756,000<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total<br />
| '''172 Million'''<br />
| '''55,695,000'''{{Fact|date=March 2007}}<!--unreliable source removed - read [[WP:A]] - old reference to Proboards --><br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Singles sales figures===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Single<br />
! Cat. #<br />
! Sales<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"/"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]"/"[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"/"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]"/"[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| 2.5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Get Back]]"/"[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Something]]"/"[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"/"[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]"/"[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]"/"[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]"/"[[From Me to You]]"<br />
| VJ 581<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"/"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"/"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]"/"[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]"/"[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"/"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| VJ 587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"/"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"/"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]"/"[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]"/"[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]"/"[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"/"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]"/"[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]"/"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]"/"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"/"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]"/"[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Free as a Bird]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]"/"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]"/"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"/"[[Slow Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]"/"[[For You Blue]]"<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]"/"[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total <br />
|<br />
| '''42 Million'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Future Releases==<br />
<br />
There are currently plans to release remastered versions of the Beatles catalogue according to Olivia Harrison, who claims that the plans are nearly complete. [http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/feb/28/yoko-ono-lennons-art-he-would-not-have-minded]<br />
<br />
==Bootlegs==<br />
See [[The Beatles bootlegs]] for a rundown of some of the more popular unauthorized bootleg material.<br />
<br />
==Bibliography==<br />
* {{cite book | author=Castleman, Harry and Walter J. Podrazik| title=All Together Now: the only Complete Beatles Discography 1961-1975 | publisher=Ballantine Books | year=1975 | id=ISBN 0-345-29794-6 }}<br />
* {{cite book | author=Wallgren, Mark| title=The Beatles on Record | publisher=Simon and Schuster | year=1982 | id=ISBN 0-671-45682-2 }}<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
* {{Discogs artist|artist=Beatles%2C+The}}<br />
*[http://www.freewebs.com/thebeatlesbeat2/ Beatles LPs EPs and singles all over the world]<br />
*[http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2407 The Beatles reviews @ progarchives.com]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/btlps.html Beatles LP and CD discography]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/bt45s.html Beatles singles and EP discography]<br />
*[http://www.jpgr.co.uk/ A UK discography, including details on bootleg releases]<br />
*[http://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/music/beatcan.html The Beatles in Canada includes Canada-only discography]<br />
*[http://www.dermon.com/Beatles/Veejay.htm The Beatles on Vee-Jay Records]<br />
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<div>'''[[The Beatles]]''' released twelve original [[album]]s, twelve [[Extended play|EP]]s (featuring mostly otherwise available material), one [[double EP]], and twenty-two [[single (music)|singles]] (featuring mostly otherwise unavailable material) in eight years ([[1962]]-[[1970]]) in their native [[United Kingdom]]. Their international discography is complicated, however, due to sometimes different versions of their albums released in other countries, particularly in their early years on [[Capitol Records]] in the [[United States]]. In addition, most of their releases are available in both [[monaural|mono]] and [[stereo]] mixes.<br />
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==Historical background==<br />
The first seven Beatles albums appeared in different versions in the U.S., where [[Capitol Records]] mixed UK album tracks with UK single tracks to create different albums altogether, with different titles, track listings, and often different audio mixes. The first eight of these records have been released on CD as ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' (2004) and ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' (2006). The Capitol release of ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' is preferred by some over its UK counterpart, due to its more folky flavour{{Fact|date=June 2007}}; it was this version of the album that greatly influenced the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, who "answered" it by releasing ''[[Pet Sounds]]'' in 1966{{Fact|date=June 2007}}. Upon the release of ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' in [[1967]], the Beatles albums had the same track listing in both the U.S. and the UK (The only exception to this is ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'', which was released as a [[double EP]] in the UK, and a longer [[LP album|LP]] in the U.S.).<br />
<br />
The first ten (of twelve) Beatles albums were released in both mono and stereo mixes. However, stereo record players were rare at the time, so producer [[George Martin]] and the Beatles gave more time and attention to preparing mono mixes of their recordings, particularly for their early records. Therefore, the mono versions are considered by many to be the "official" versions, as opposed to the stereo releases. In fact, when the Beatles discography was released on [[Compact disc|CD]] in the 1980s, the mono mixes of the first four albums were used, rather than the stereo mixes. However, the last two albums, [[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]] and [[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]], were mixed and released in stereo only.<br />
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The Beatles UK discography was released on CD in the late 1980s. However, the sound of the digital transfers of the current discs, produced by George Martin in 1987 and 1988 using the best equipment available during the early days of the format, no longer meet standards achievable using current techniques. The sound on the remastered catalogues of [[Bob Dylan]], the [[Bee Gees]], the [[The Beach Boys|Beach Boys]], and the [[The Rolling Stones|Rolling Stones]], among other heavyweights from the 1960s, have been greatly enhanced using technological developments that have occurred since Martin's initial digital mastering, and as of 2007, similar work for the Beatles is long overdue. In addition, many Beatles enthusiasts feel that the CD releases of the albums are inferior because the recordings were originally mastered to be played on vinyl, which, when played back, arguably possess a warm sound which CDs are not able to reproduce. Many purists today still listen to Beatles albums only on vinyl.{{Fact|date=June 2007}}<br />
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Olivia Harrison recently stated that the Beatles songs and albums had been remastered, and were in the final production stage. However, Harrison did state that she feels these may not be released until the end of 2008, possibly due to changes that may need to be made. <ref>http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/beatles_online_deal_seen_for_2008.html</ref><br />
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==Studio albums==<br />
===UK albums===<br />
This is a listing of the official studio albums released in the [[United Kingdom|UK]] by [[The Beatles]] (not including compilations).<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Please Please Me]]'' ('''#1''' for 30 weeks, plus another 20 weeks at #2; 74 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Parlophone Records|Parlophone]] PMC 1202 (Mono)/PCS 3042 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-03-22]] and [[1963-04-26]] (Mono and stereo respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[With the Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks, plus another 10 weeks at #2; 53 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1206 (Mono)/PCS 3045 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br>"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks; 43 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1230 (Mono)/PCS 3058 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles for Sale]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 48 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1240 (Mono)/PCS 3062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-04]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br>"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br>"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1255 (Mono)/PCS 3071 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[["Help!" (song)|Help!]]"<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"[[You're Going to Lose That Girl]]"<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Act Naturally]]"<br>"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 47 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1267 (Mono)/PCS 3075 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-03]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Girl (The Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 7 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 46 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7009 (Mono)/PCS 7009 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-05]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[Doctor Robert]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 27 weeks, plus another 5 weeks at #2; 201 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7027 (Mono)/PCS 7027 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]"<br>"[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]"<br>"[[Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds]]"<br>"[[Getting Better]]"<br>"[[Fixing a Hole]]"<br>"[[She's Leaving Home]]"<br>"[[Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Within You Without You]]"<br>"[[When I'm Sixty-Four]]"<br>"[[Lovely Rita]]"<br>"[[Good Morning Good Morning]]"<br>"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)]]"<br>"[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ("The White Album") ('''#1''' for 8 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 24 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Parlophone PMC 7067-7068 (Mono)/PCS 7067-7068 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|'''Side three'''<br />
|'''Side four'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Back in the U.S.S.R.]]"<br>"[[Dear Prudence]]"<br>"[[Glass Onion]]"<br>"[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]"<br>"[[Wild Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill]]"<br>"[[While My Guitar Gently Weeps]]"<br>"[[Happiness Is a Warm Gun]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Martha My Dear]]"<br>"[[I'm So Tired]]"<br>"[[Blackbird (song)|Blackbird]]"<br>"[[Piggies]]"<br>"[[Rocky Raccoon]]"<br>"[[Don't Pass Me By]]"<br>"[[Why Don't We Do It in the Road?]]"<br>"[[I Will]]"<br>"[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Birthday (song)|Birthday]]"<br>"[[Yer Blues]]"<br>"[[Mother Nature's Son]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey|Everybody's Got Something to Hide<br> Except Me and My Monkey]]"<br>"[[Sexy Sadie (song)|Sexy Sadie]]"<br>"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br>"[[Long, Long, Long]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Revolution 1]]"<br>"[[Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[Savoy Truffle]]"<br>"[[Cry Baby Cry]]"<br>"[[Revolution 9]]"<br>"[[Good Night (song)|Good Night]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#3; 11 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PMC 7070 (Mono)/PCS 7070 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-17]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two''' (Instrumental, conducted by George Martin)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[Only a Northern Song]]"<br>"[[All Together Now (The Beatles song)|All Together Now]]"<br>"[[Hey Bulldog]]"<br>"[[It's All Too Much]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"Pepperland"<br>"Sea of Time"<br>"Sea of Holes"<br>"Sea of Monsters"<br>"March of the Meanies" <br>"Pepperland Laid Waste"<br>"Yellow Submarine in Pepperland"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 17 weeks – debut at #1, plus 1 week at #2; 92 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PCS 7088 Albums in stereo only from this point on.<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-09-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Come Together]]"<br>"[[Something]]"<br>"[[Maxwell's Silver Hammer]]"<br>"[[Oh! Darling]]"<br>"[[Octopus's Garden]]"<br>"[[I Want You (She's So Heavy)]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Here Comes the Sun]]"<br>"[[Because (The Beatles song)|Because]]"<br>"[[You Never Give Me Your Money]]"<br>"[[Sun King (song)|Sun King]]"<br>"[[Mean Mr. Mustard]]"<br>"[[Polythene Pam]]"<br>"[[She Came in Through the Bathroom Window]]"<br>"[[Golden Slumbers (The Beatles)|Golden Slumbers]]"<br>"[[Carry That Weight]]"<br>"[[The End (The Beatles song)|The End]]"<br>"[[Her Majesty (song)|Her Majesty]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 3 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 60 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PXS 1 (Box Set) /PCS 7096 (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-08]] (Box Set)<br>[[1970-11-06]] (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Two of Us (1969 song)|Two of Us]]"<br>"[[Dig a Pony]]"<br>"[[Across the Universe]]"<br>"[[I Me Mine]]"<br>"[[Dig It]]"<br>"[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"<br>"[[Maggie Mae]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Got a Feeling]]"<br>"[[One After 909]]"<br>"[[The Long and Winding Road]]"<br>"[[For You Blue]]"<br>"[[Get Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. albums===<br />
In the [[United States]], as noted above, The Beatles albums were rearranged, retitled and remixed. Some of the U.S. releases were nearly identical to their UK counterparts, often only varying by one or two songs. Most releases contained songs that were also found on other records, which made things difficult for the American Beatles fan trying to purchase the band's entire catalogue. By 1967, beginning with ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'', all U.S. releases matched the UK releases exactly (with the exception of the UK double EP ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' (1967), which was released as an LP in the U.S. and included extra tracks not found on the UK release).<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Introducing... The Beatles]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 49 weeks on chart) (2/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Vee-Jay Records|Vee-Jay]] VJLP 1062 (Mono)/VJSR 1062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-07-22]], and [[1964-01-27]] (Versions 1 and 2 respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]" ("[[Ask Me Why]]" on Version 2)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]" ("[[Please Please Me]]" on Version 2)<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Meet the Beatles!]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 71 weeks on chart) (2/8/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 2047 (Mono)/ST 2047 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks; 55 weeks on chart) (4/25/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2080 (Mono)/ST 2080 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-04-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)|Money]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)#The American release|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 14 weeks; 51 weeks on chart) (7/18/1964) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[United Artists Records|United Artists]] UAL 3366 (Mono)/UAS 6366 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-06-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"Ringo's Theme (This Boy)" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br>"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 41 weeks on chart) (8/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2108 (Mono)/ST 2108 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[Slow Down]]"<br>"[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles '65]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks; 71 weeks on chart) (1/9/1965-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2228 (Mono)/ST 2228 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-15]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br>"[[She's a Woman]]"<br>"[[I Feel Fine]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Early Beatles]]'' (#43; 35 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2309 (Mono)/ST 2309 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-03-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles VI]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart) (7/10/1965)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2358 (Mono)/ST 2358 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-06-14]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br>"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Bad Boy (Larry Williams song)|Bad Boy]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Yes It Is]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)#American release|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another week at #2; 44 weeks on chart) (9/11/1965) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2386 (Mono)/SMAS 2386 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" (with "[[James Bond Theme]]" intro)<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]] Fantasy" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"In the Tyrol" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"Another Hard Day's Night" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br>"The Bitter End/[[You Can't Do That]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You're Gonna Lose That Girl]]"<br>"The Chase" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (1/8/1966-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2442 (Mono)/ST 2442 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[Girl (Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yesterday . . . and Today|Yesterday… and Today]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 31 weeks on chart) (7/16/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2553 (Mono)/ST 2553 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-06-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Dr. Robert]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[We Can Work It Out]]"<br>"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 77 weeks on chart) (9/10/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2576 (Mono)/ST 2576 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-08]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 15 weeks, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 175 weeks on chart) (6/24/1967) "Grammy Award Winner for the Album of the Year in[[1967]]"<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2653 (Mono)/SMAS 2653 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-02]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release. It should be noted, though, that the two seconds of gibberish placed on the concentric groove of the UK release was left off the U.S. release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks; 91 weeks on chart) (12/30/1967+) (1/6/1968-) {The Movie Soundtrack & 1967 singles}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAL 2835 (Mono)/SMAL 2835 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-11-27]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Magical Mystery Tour (song)|Magical Mystery Tour]]"<br>"[[The Fool on the Hill]]"<br>"[[Flying (song)|Flying]]"<br>"[[Blue Jay Way]]"<br>"[[Your Mother Should Know]]"<br>"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Hello, Goodbye]]"<br>"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br>"[[Penny Lane]]"<br>"[[Baby, You're a Rich Man]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 155 weeks on chart) (12/14/1968)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Capitol SWBO 101 (All albums in stereo only from this point on)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#2 for 2 weeks – kept off the top spot by ''The White Album''; 25 weeks on chart) (2/15/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SW 153<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 7 weeks at #2; 129 weeks on chart) (10/25/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SO 383<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-10-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 4 weeks, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (6/6/1970) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/United Artists AR 34001<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-18]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian albums===<br />
The division of [[Capitol Records]] in [[Canada]] released three unique albums and nine singles in 1963 and 1964 before aligning with the American division and releasing the same albums as in the U.S. The first Canadian release was the "[[Love Me Do]]" single (72076) on [[1963-02-04]].<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatlemania! With the Beatles]]'' (#1 CAN, 6 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 6051 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Track listing identical to the British album ''[[With the Beatles]]''.<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Twist and Shout (Beatles Canada album)|Twist and Shout]]'' (#1 CAN, 10 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6054 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]]''<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]''<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Long Tall Sally]]'' (#1 CAN, 5 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6063 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-05-11]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
After this album, Capitol of Canada synchronised its catalogue production with the U.S. market, beginning with United Artists' ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' and concluding with Apple's ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''. Notably, the albums ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' and ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'' were only produced in mono when originally released. In 1967 the American back catalogue was released in Canada:<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'', ST 2080 (Stereo)/ T 2080 (Mono), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Meet The Beatles]]'', ST 2047 (Stereo), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Something New]]'', ST 2108, February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', STBO 2222 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
* ''[[The Early Beatles]]'', ST 2309 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
<br />
==Compilations and other releases==<br />
===UK compilations and other releases===<br />
* ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1966-12-09]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' First]]'' [[Polydor Records]] ([[1967-08-04]]) (British issue of the 1964 German LP)<br />
* ''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album") Apple Records #3([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 3)<br />
* ''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album") Apple Records #2([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 4)<br />
:Note: Two double compilation albums, featuring as covers an alternate shot of the photograph originally taken for ''Please Please Me'' and a [[1969]] re-creation (originally for ''Get Back'', which evolved into ''Let It Be'') based upon that photograph.<br />
* ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-06-10]]) #11<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-11-19]]) [sic] (Official UK issue of the American album using the Capitol masters, except for "Penny Lane," "Baby You're a Rich Man," and "All You Need is Love," which were the German mixes released on the Hör Zu! label in 1971. It became part of the official catalogue with its release on CD with every track in true-stereo. As an American import, the album peaked at #31 in 1968. Continued sales of the album as an import led to this release.)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-05-06]]) (Live performances from [[1964-08-23]] and [[1965-08-30]] at the [[Hollywood Bowl]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-19]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-02]]) (A 14-record box set containing all of [[The Beatles discography#Studio albums|The Beatles' original Parlophone/Apple LPs]] along with ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'')<br />
* ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1978-12-02]]) (Although not made explicit on the sleeve, this album consisted of every Parlophone and Apple Beatles B-side and EP track which had not been included on their UK studio albums, or on the 1973 "Red" and "Blue" Albums. It included 2 songs in German ("Sie Liebt Dich" and "Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand"), a song recorded for an American album and an alternative version of "Across The Universe") #71<br />
* ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1979-05-11]]) (Official UK issue of American album)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1980-10-13]]) (compilation) #17<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box]]'' Parlophone Records/World Records ([[1980-11-03]]) (This is an 8-record compilation which was available by mail order only)<br />
* ''[[Reel Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-03-29]]) (compilation of tracks from The Beatles' films) Did not chart<br />
* ''The Beatles Mono Collection'' Parlophone/Apple (1982-10-??) (box set - 10 chronological mono Beatle albums from ''[[Please Please Me]]'' to ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' excluding ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]''. Intended for export, originally in a red box similar to ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', reissued later in black)<br />
* ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-10-18]]) #10<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1962-1965 and other songs that were left off earlier albums) #49<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1965-1970 and other songs that were left off later albums) #46<br />
:Note: The reason for the Past Masters compilations are so that every song The Beatles released in 1962-1970 could be on a CD. They include singles and B-sides, two songs sung in German, the contents of an EP released in 1964 that had four additional songs, the "single" versions of the songs "Get Back" and "Let It Be", and a version of "Across the Universe" that had bird-like sound effects. ''Past Masters'' was also issued as a 2-LP set on [[1988-11-10]].<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Apple/Parlophone Records ([[1988-12-05]]) (contains the official Apple/Parlophone Beatle catalogue on CD including the two Past Masters volumes along with a soft cover book by [[Mark Lewisohn]] describing every track in this collection which is contained in a roll top wooden box)<br />
* ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' Apple Records ([[1994-11-30]]) (Contains 69 songs The Beatles recorded for various [[BBC]] radio shows that never were recorded for Parlophone/Capitol/EMI. #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 1]]'' Apple Records ([[1995-11-21]]) (Containing early performances, live shows, demos, out-takes in the period [[1958]] to [[1964]] and the first "new" Beatles song since the band broke up in [[1970]]) #2<br />
* ''[[Anthology 2]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-03-18]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, live shows, demos, and out-takes from [[1965]] to [[1968]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 3]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-10-28]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, demos, and out-takes in the period [[1968]] to [[1970]]) #4<br />
* ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'' Apple Records ([[1999-09-13]]) #8<br />
* ''[[The Beatles 1]]'' Apple Records ([[2000-11-13]]) (A collection of The Beatles' #1 hits on the Billboard [U.S.] and Record Retailer [UK] charts, including ''both'' sides of their double-A sided singles if both hit the top slot. The collection has 27 songs in it.) #1<br />
* ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'' Apple Records ([[2003-11-17]]) (Remastered and remixed cut from the original sessions, devoid of arrangements by "re-producer" [[Phil Spector]]. The first copies released shipped with a 21-minute ''Fly on the Wall'' bonus disc.) #7<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2004-11-15]]) (A re-issuing of the first four Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2006-04-11]]) (A re-issuing of The Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. in [[1965]]. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'' Apple Records ([[2006-11-20]]) #3 (A soundtrack to the [[Cirque du Soleil]] production [[Love (Cirque du Soleil)|Love]], featuring remastered and remixed versions of the Beatles' songs by Sir George Martin and his son [[Giles Martin]])<br />
<br />
===U.S. compilations and other releases===<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', Capitol TBO 2222 (Mono)/STBO 2222 (Stereo ([[1964-11-23]]) #7 (12/19/1964+) (1/2/1965-)<br />
*''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'', Apple/Capitol SW 385 ([[1970-02-26]]) #2(4) (3/21/1970)<br />
*''[[In the Beginning (Circa 1960)]]'', [[Polydor Records]] 24-4504 ([[1970-05-04]]) #117<br />
*''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album"), Apple SKBO-3403 ([[1973-04-02]]) #3 (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album"), Apple SKBO-3404 ([[1973-04-02]]) #1(1) (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1976-06-07]]) #2(2) (6/26/1976)<br />
*''[[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]]'', [[Lingasong]] ([[May 2]], [[1977]]) #111<br />
*''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-05-04]]) #2(2) (5/21/1977)<br />
*''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-10-21]]) #24 (11/19/1977)<br />
*''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', Capitol Records ([[1979-12-01]]) (Unlike the British release, the American issue was a limited edition with only 3000 copies made. The British release which was not a limited edition became a popular import for the U.S. market as a result.)<br />
*''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'', Capitol SHAL-12060 ([[1980-03-24]]) #21 (4/19/1980)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Reel Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-03-22]]) #19 (4/10/1982)<br />
*''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-10-11]]) #50<br />
*''[[Please Please Me]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[With the Beatles]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Beatles for Sale]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Rubber Soul]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]]'')<br />
: (The above 1987 CD releases mark the first official releases for The Beatles' early British albums in the U.S.)<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #149<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #121<br />
:(''Past Masters'' as a 2-LP set was issued by Capitol Records on [[1988-10-24]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-11-15]])<br />
*''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'', Capitol Records ([[1994-12-06]]) #3 (12/24/1994+) (1/8/1995-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[1995-11-21]]) #1 (12/9/1995+) (1/13/1996-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-03-19]]) #1 (4/20/1996)<br />
*''[[Anthology 3]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-10-29]]) #1 (11/23/1996+) (1/3/1997-)<br />
*''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'', Capitol Records ([[1999-09-14]]) #15 (10/2/1999)<br />
*''[[The Beatles 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2000-11-14]]) #1 (12/2/2000+) (1/6/2001-)<br />
*''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'', Capitol Records ([[2003-11-18]]) #5 (12/13/2003+) (1/17/2004-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2004-11-16]]) #35 (12/4/2004+) (1/1/2005-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-04-11]]) #46<br />
*''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-11-21]]) #4 (12/16/2006+) (1/20/2007-)<br />
<br />
===Canadian compilations and other releases=== <br />
All post-Beatles albums were released exactly the same in Canada as in the U.S., with the exception of:<br />
* ''[[Very Together]]'', Polydor (Fall [[1969]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'', Capitol Records ([[1980-10-13]])<br />
<br />
==Extended plays (EPs)==<br />
During the years that the Beatles were together and recording, album tracks were not customarily released as singles, and vice versa. Instead, [[EMI]] would release album tracks as EPs, long singles with two songs per side. With two exceptions, the EPs feature songs also available on Beatles albums, rather than original material.<br />
<br />
===UK EPs===<br />
* ''[[Twist and Shout (EP)|Twist and Shout]]'' ([[1963-07-12]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Hits]]'' ([[1963-09-06]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (No. 1) (EP)|The Beatles (No. 1)]]'' ([[1963-11-01]])<br />
* ''[[All My Loving (EP)|All My Loving]]'' ([[1964-02-07]])<br />
* ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' ([[1964-06-19]]) The first Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material, including the [[Lennon-McCartney]] original "[[I Call Your Name]]".<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the film)]]'' ([[1964-11-04]])<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the album)]]'' ([[1964-11-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (EP)|Beatles for Sale]]'' ([[1965-04-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (No. 2)]]'' ([[1965-06-04]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Million Sellers]]'' ([[1965-12-06]])<br />
* ''[[Yesterday (EP)|Yesterday]]'' ([[1966-03-04]])<br />
* ''[[Nowhere Man (EP)|Nowhere Man]]'' ([[1966-07-08]])<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ([[1967-12-08]]); #2 (in the UK singles chart topped by "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"). The second Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material. This record consisted of the original songs recorded by the Beatles for the "Magical Mystery Tour" film.<br />
*''[[The Beatles EP Collection]]'', Parlophone ([[1981-12-07]]) (15-disc 7" EP set, featuring all 13 Beatles British EPs, with both mono and stereo editions of [[Magical Mystery Tour]] plus an EP of 4 stereo mixes, new to the UK, of "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]", housed in a blue flip-top box similar to [[The Beatles Collection]]. The set was issued on CD in a black box for the first time in the UK on ([[1992-05-26]] with releases in the U.S. and Japan in the following month)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (EP)|The Beatles]]'' ([[1981-12-07]]) (a rarities' EP featuring "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]")<br />
<br />
===U.S. EPs===<br />
* ''[[Souvenir of Their Visit to America]]'' (Vee Jay Records) ([[1964-03-23]])<br />
* ''[[Four by the Beatles]]'' ([[1964-05-11]])<br />
* ''[[4-by the Beatles]]'' ([[1965-02-01]])<br />
* ''[[Baby It's You (Shirelles)|Baby It's You]]'' ([[1995-03-23]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]'' ([[1995-12-12]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' ([[1996-03-05]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
<br />
==Singles==<br />
The [[UK Singles Chart]] is compiled solely from sales figures; airplay statistics are not used. For this reason the chart positions for the UK Singles are indicated per disc, not per song. '''Pos''' column indicates the peak position in the charts. <br />
<br />
===UK singles===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="width: 2em" | Pos<br />
! style="min-width: 28em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-01-05]]<br />
| #48<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| {{nowrap|Polydor NH 66-833}}<br />
| (by "[[Tony Sheridan]] & The Beatles")[http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/hamburg.html]<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-10-05]]<br />
| #17<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-01-11]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4983<br />
| (#1 in [[N.M.E]]'s chart)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5015<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-08-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-11-29]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5084<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-20]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" / "[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5114<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-29]]<br />
| #29<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[If You Love Me, Baby]]"<br />
| Polydor NH 52-317<br />
| ([[B-side]] with [[Tony Sheridan]], vocal)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" / "[[Things We Said Today]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5160<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-27]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" / "[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5200<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-09]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" / "[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5265<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" / "[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5305<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-03]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" / "[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5389<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-06-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5452<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-05]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5493<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-17]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5570<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-07]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5620<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-24]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5655<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-15]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5675<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple R5722<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple R5777<br />
| (The Beatles with [[Billy Preston]])<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple R5786<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-31]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Something]]" / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple R5814<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-06]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple R5833<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-03-08]]<br />
| #8<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6013<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-29]]<br />
| #19<br />
| "[[Back in the USSR]]" / "[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6016<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-09-30]]<br />
| #63<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6022<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-05-25]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-11-19]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-12-06]]<br />
| <br />
| ''[[The Beatles Singles Collection]]''<br />
| Parlophone BSC 1<br />
| <small>22-disc 7" singles set, featuring the complete Beatles EMI singles catalogue, with new picture sleeves for many of the discs. The set was first issued on CD in the UK 1992-11-02, and in the U.S. 1992-11-09. The set was first packaged in Japan using a longbox housing the complete set of 3" CD singles in December 1989.</small><br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-03-20]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Shirelles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple R6406<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple R6422<br />
| (first new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" / "[[Baby's in Black]]"<br />
| Apple R6425<br />
| (second new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. singles===<br />
The [[Billboard Hot 100]] chart in the U.S. is compiled from sales <strong>and</strong> airplay statistics, so the individual songs on any given disc can be charted separately.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| (Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 498<br />
| (Early pressings misspelled as The Beattles)<!-- both misspellings existed on the released singles --><br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-05-27]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#116</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 522<br />
| <br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (first release; white label with red print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> (1/25/1964-)[A] / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#14</sup> (1/25/1964-)[B]<br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-25]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/1/1964) / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (second release; black label with silver print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-27]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" <sup>#26</sup> (3/7/1964) / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| MGM 13213<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-30]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]" <sup>#3</sup> (2/22/1964) / "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#41</sup><br />
| Vee-Jay 581<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-08]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#45</sup> / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#68</sup> / "[[Please Mister Postman]]"<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-02]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#2</sup> (3/21/1964) / "[[There's a Place]]" <sup>#74</sup><br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/28/1964) / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#48</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-23]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]" <sup>#2</sup> (4/11/1964) / "[[Thank You Girl]]" <sup>#35</sup> (4/25/1964)<br />
| Vee-Jay 587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" <sup>#88</sup> / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-27]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/2/1964) / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]" <sup>#10</sup> (5/16/1964)<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-21]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" (She Loves You) <sup>#97</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4182<br />
| (German, A-side shown as "DIE BEATLES")<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-01]]<br />
| "[[Sweet Georgia Brown]]" / "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby"<br />
| Atco 6302<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" <sup>#19</sup> (8/1/1964) / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/18/1964) / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#25</sup> (8/15/1964) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#95</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#12</sup> (8/8/1964) / "[[If I Fell]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#17</sup> (9/19/1964) / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#25</sup> (9/26/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/5/1964) / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#4</sup> (12/12/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/27/1965) / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#39</sup> (3/20/1965)<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/1/1965) / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#46</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> (8/14/1965) / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#101</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/2/1965) / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#47</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/18/1965+) (1/8/1966-) / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#5</sup> (12/25/1965+) (1/22/1966-)<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#3</sup> (3/5/1966) / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]" <sup>#81</sup><br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> (6/11/1966) / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]] <sup>#23</sup> (6/25/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#2</sup> (8/27/1966) / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#11</sup> (9/10/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/4/1967) / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#8</sup> (3/11/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/29/1967) / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]" <sup>#34</sup> (8/12/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/9/1967) / "[[I Am the Walrus]]" <sup>#56</sup><br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#4</sup> (3/23/1968) / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]" <sup>#96</sup><br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> (9/14/1968) [A] / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#12</sup> (9/14/1968) [B]<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/10/1969) [A] / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#35</sup> (5/10/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" <sup>#8</sup> (6/21/1969) / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B] / "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/21/1970) / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [A] / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [B]<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#7</sup> (6/19/1976) / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#49</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" <sup>#71</sup> / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" <sup>#12</sup> (4/10/1982) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#23</sup> (8/30/1986) / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> (12/30/1995+) (1/6/1996-) / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| first new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> (3/23/1996) / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| second new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian singles===<br />
As appeared on the "[[CHUM Chart|CHUM Hit Parade]]" charts between the weeks of Monday [[6 January]] [[1963]] and Saturday [[8 January]] [[1977]].<ref>http://www.1050chum.com/index_chumcharts.aspx?artist=7600</ref> Capitol of Canada said yes to The Beatles from day one and issued early Beatle singles in their 72000 series of Canada only releases<ref>http://www.capitol6000.com/protected/7200045s.htm</ref> before aligning with the American company's numbering system when the American company began issuing Beatle singles. American Beatle recordings issued on the Vee-Jay, Swan and Tollie labels were issued by Capitol of Canada with 72000 series catalogue numbers. Capitol Canada was the only country outside of the U.K. to issue version 1 of "Love Me Do" with Ringo on the drums.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| Test Pressing, never issued<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-03]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#8</sup> / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72076<br />
| #8 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-23<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72090<br />
| #5 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-09<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-06-18]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Capitol 72101<br />
| #6 on 1964-03-09<br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72125<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-01-20<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-09]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| First Canadian Beatle single to make charts almost immediately upon release.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-02-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-17]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[This Boy]]" <sup>#1</sup> [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-03-23. This Boy held the #1 spot alone after All My Loving had fallen to #5 in week six.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[There's a Place]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72146<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#3</sup> / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#33</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-20]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret?]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72159<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-15]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why|Ask My Way]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72162<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-08-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#20</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#15</sup> / "[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#6</sup><br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1964-12-21<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1965-03-15<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-05-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-08-16<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1965-10-11<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1965-12-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1966-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-08-29<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-02-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1967-08-07<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-12-04<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1968-04-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1968-09-14<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1969-05-17, (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Banned from Canadian Radio stations nationwide<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1969-11-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" / "[[Something]]" <br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| Released with A-side as B-side<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1970-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1970-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#19</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| <br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Christmas records==<br />
The Beatles also recorded annual Christmas records for their fan club members. From 1963 to 1969 these were released as 7" flexidiscs on LYN. In 1970 the 7 previous records were put onto a 12" vinyl record, ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]''. These remain largely unavailable today (although they have been widely bootlegged), with the exception of one track, "Christmas Time Is Here Again", which was edited and released on the ''Free As a Bird'' CD single in [[1994]]: <br />
*''The Beatles Christmas Record'', LYN 492 ([[1963]])<br />
*''Season's Greetings from The Beatles'', LYN 757 ([[1964]])<br />
*''The Beatles 3rd Christmas Record'', LYN 948 ([[1965]])<br />
*''Everywhere It's Christmas'', LYN 1145 ([[1966]])<br />
*''Christmas Time Is Here Again'', LYN 1360 ([[1967]])<br />
*''Beatles 1968 Christmas Record'', LYN 1743/4 ([[1968]])<br />
*''Happy Christmas 1969'', LYN 1970/1 ([[1969]])<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]'', (UK) [[Apple Records|Apple]] LYN 2154 / ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album]]'' (U.S.) Apple SBC 100 ([[1970]])<br />
<br />
==Sales figures==<br />
===[[RIAA]] and [[Soundscan]] albums===<br />
US Sales figures.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
!scope="col"| Album<br />
!scope="col"| RIAA<br />
!scope="col"| Soundscan<br />
!scope="col"| [[United World Chart]]<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]''<br />
| {{nowrap|19x [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Platinum]] ([[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Diamond]] plus nine)}}<br />
| 3,125,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1967–1970]]''<br />
| 16x Platinum (Diamond plus six)<br />
| 2,568,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1962–1966]]''<br />
| 15x Platinum (Diamond plus five)<br />
| 2,214,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]''<br />
| 12x Platinum (Diamond plus two)<br />
| 3,910,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''{{nowrap|[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]}}''<br />
| 11x Platinum (Diamond plus one)<br />
| 3,825,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles 1]]''<br />
| 10x Platinum (Diamond)<br />
| 11,107,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 1]]''<br />
| 8x Platinum<br />
| 3,666,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,161,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,525,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rubber Soul]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 2,274,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Meet the Beatles!|Meet The Beatles!]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 50,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 1,889,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,232,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,149,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,518,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 2]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,739,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles '65]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 24,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 68,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 94,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 3]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 1,363,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 821,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 20,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles for Sale]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 594,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles VI]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,147,000<br />
| +1,871,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 826,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,164,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Please Please Me]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 772,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 216,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 230,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Early Beatles]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 19,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,090,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yesterday...and Today]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 26,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,670,000 <br />
| 4,395,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]''<br />
| [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Gold]]<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Reel Music]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 16,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Story]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 3,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 78,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[With the Beatles]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 563,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 756,000<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total<br />
| '''172 Million'''<br />
| '''55,695,000'''{{Fact|date=March 2007}}<!--unreliable source removed - read [[WP:A]] - old reference to Proboards --><br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Singles sales figures===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Single<br />
! Cat. #<br />
! Sales<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"/"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]"/"[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"/"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]"/"[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| 2.5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Get Back]]"/"[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Something]]"/"[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"/"[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]"/"[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]"/"[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]"/"[[From Me to You]]"<br />
| VJ 581<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"/"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"/"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]"/"[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]"/"[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"/"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| VJ 587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"/"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"/"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]"/"[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]"/"[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]"/"[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"/"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]"/"[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]"/"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]"/"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"/"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]"/"[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Free as a Bird]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]"/"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]"/"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"/"[[Slow Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]"/"[[For You Blue]]"<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]"/"[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total <br />
|<br />
| '''42 Million'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Future Releases==<br />
<br />
There are currently plans to release remastered versions of the Beatles catalogue according to Olivia Harrison, who claims that the plans are nearly complete. [[http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/feb/28/yoko-ono-lennons-art-he-would-not-have-minded]]<br />
<br />
==Bootlegs==<br />
See [[The Beatles bootlegs]] for a rundown of some of the more popular unauthorized bootleg material.<br />
<br />
==Bibliography==<br />
* {{cite book | author=Castleman, Harry and Walter J. Podrazik| title=All Together Now: the only Complete Beatles Discography 1961-1975 | publisher=Ballantine Books | year=1975 | id=ISBN 0-345-29794-6 }}<br />
* {{cite book | author=Wallgren, Mark| title=The Beatles on Record | publisher=Simon and Schuster | year=1982 | id=ISBN 0-671-45682-2 }}<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
* {{Discogs artist|artist=Beatles%2C+The}}<br />
*[http://www.freewebs.com/thebeatlesbeat2/ Beatles LPs EPs and singles all over the world]<br />
*[http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2407 The Beatles reviews @ progarchives.com]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/btlps.html Beatles LP and CD discography]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/bt45s.html Beatles singles and EP discography]<br />
*[http://www.jpgr.co.uk/ A UK discography, including details on bootleg releases]<br />
*[http://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/music/beatcan.html The Beatles in Canada includes Canada-only discography]<br />
*[http://www.dermon.com/Beatles/Veejay.htm The Beatles on Vee-Jay Records]<br />
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[[ru:Дискография The Beatles]]</div>Paul McMarkneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles_albums_discography&diff=198845215The Beatles albums discography2008-03-17T12:57:06Z<p>Paul McMarkney: Future Releases of Remastered Catalogue</p>
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<div>'''[[The Beatles]]''' released twelve original [[album]]s, twelve [[Extended play|EP]]s (featuring mostly otherwise available material), one [[double EP]], and twenty-two [[single (music)|singles]] (featuring mostly otherwise unavailable material) in eight years ([[1962]]-[[1970]]) in their native [[United Kingdom]]. Their international discography is complicated, however, due to sometimes different versions of their albums released in other countries, particularly in their early years on [[Capitol Records]] in the [[United States]]. In addition, most of their releases are available in both [[monaural|mono]] and [[stereo]] mixes.<br />
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==Historical background==<br />
The first seven Beatles albums appeared in different versions in the U.S., where [[Capitol Records]] mixed UK album tracks with UK single tracks to create different albums altogether, with different titles, track listings, and often different audio mixes. The first eight of these records have been released on CD as ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' (2004) and ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' (2006). The Capitol release of ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' is preferred by some over its UK counterpart, due to its more folky flavour{{Fact|date=June 2007}}; it was this version of the album that greatly influenced the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, who "answered" it by releasing ''[[Pet Sounds]]'' in 1966{{Fact|date=June 2007}}. Upon the release of ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' in [[1967]], the Beatles albums had the same track listing in both the U.S. and the UK (The only exception to this is ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'', which was released as a [[double EP]] in the UK, and a longer [[LP album|LP]] in the U.S.).<br />
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The first ten (of twelve) Beatles albums were released in both mono and stereo mixes. However, stereo record players were rare at the time, so producer [[George Martin]] and the Beatles gave more time and attention to preparing mono mixes of their recordings, particularly for their early records. Therefore, the mono versions are considered by many to be the "official" versions, as opposed to the stereo releases. In fact, when the Beatles discography was released on [[Compact disc|CD]] in the 1980s, the mono mixes of the first four albums were used, rather than the stereo mixes. However, the last two albums, [[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]] and [[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]], were mixed and released in stereo only.<br />
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The Beatles UK discography was released on CD in the late 1980s. However, the sound of the digital transfers of the current discs, produced by George Martin in 1987 and 1988 using the best equipment available during the early days of the format, no longer meet standards achievable using current techniques. The sound on the remastered catalogues of [[Bob Dylan]], the [[Bee Gees]], the [[The Beach Boys|Beach Boys]], and the [[The Rolling Stones|Rolling Stones]], among other heavyweights from the 1960s, have been greatly enhanced using technological developments that have occurred since Martin's initial digital mastering, and as of 2007, similar work for the Beatles is long overdue. In addition, many Beatles enthusiasts feel that the CD releases of the albums are inferior because the recordings were originally mastered to be played on vinyl, which, when played back, arguably possess a warm sound which CDs are not able to reproduce. Many purists today still listen to Beatles albums only on vinyl.{{Fact|date=June 2007}}<br />
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Olivia Harrison recently stated that the Beatles songs and albums had been remastered, and were in the final production stage. However, Harrison did state that she feels these may not be released until the end of 2008, possibly due to changes that may need to be made. <ref>http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/beatles_online_deal_seen_for_2008.html</ref><br />
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==Studio albums==<br />
===UK albums===<br />
This is a listing of the official studio albums released in the [[United Kingdom|UK]] by [[The Beatles]] (not including compilations).<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Please Please Me]]'' ('''#1''' for 30 weeks, plus another 20 weeks at #2; 74 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Parlophone Records|Parlophone]] PMC 1202 (Mono)/PCS 3042 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-03-22]] and [[1963-04-26]] (Mono and stereo respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[With the Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks, plus another 10 weeks at #2; 53 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1206 (Mono)/PCS 3045 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br>"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 21 weeks; 43 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1230 (Mono)/PCS 3058 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles for Sale]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 48 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1240 (Mono)/PCS 3062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-04]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br>"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br>"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1255 (Mono)/PCS 3071 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[["Help!" (song)|Help!]]"<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"[[You're Going to Lose That Girl]]"<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Act Naturally]]"<br>"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks, plus another 11 weeks at #2; 47 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 1267 (Mono)/PCS 3075 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-03]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Girl (The Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 7 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 46 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7009 (Mono)/PCS 7009 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-05]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[Doctor Robert]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 27 weeks, plus another 5 weeks at #2; 201 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Parlophone PMC 7027 (Mono)/PCS 7027 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]"<br>"[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]"<br>"[[Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds]]"<br>"[[Getting Better]]"<br>"[[Fixing a Hole]]"<br>"[[She's Leaving Home]]"<br>"[[Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Within You Without You]]"<br>"[[When I'm Sixty-Four]]"<br>"[[Lovely Rita]]"<br>"[[Good Morning Good Morning]]"<br>"[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)]]"<br>"[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ("The White Album") ('''#1''' for 8 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 24 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Parlophone PMC 7067-7068 (Mono)/PCS 7067-7068 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|'''Side three'''<br />
|'''Side four'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Back in the U.S.S.R.]]"<br>"[[Dear Prudence]]"<br>"[[Glass Onion]]"<br>"[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]"<br>"[[Wild Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill]]"<br>"[[While My Guitar Gently Weeps]]"<br>"[[Happiness Is a Warm Gun]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Martha My Dear]]"<br>"[[I'm So Tired]]"<br>"[[Blackbird (song)|Blackbird]]"<br>"[[Piggies]]"<br>"[[Rocky Raccoon]]"<br>"[[Don't Pass Me By]]"<br>"[[Why Don't We Do It in the Road?]]"<br>"[[I Will]]"<br>"[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Birthday (song)|Birthday]]"<br>"[[Yer Blues]]"<br>"[[Mother Nature's Son]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey|Everybody's Got Something to Hide<br> Except Me and My Monkey]]"<br>"[[Sexy Sadie (song)|Sexy Sadie]]"<br>"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br>"[[Long, Long, Long]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Revolution 1]]"<br>"[[Honey Pie]]"<br>"[[Savoy Truffle]]"<br>"[[Cry Baby Cry]]"<br>"[[Revolution 9]]"<br>"[[Good Night (song)|Good Night]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#3; 11 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PMC 7070 (Mono)/PCS 7070 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-17]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two''' (Instrumental, conducted by George Martin)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[Only a Northern Song]]"<br>"[[All Together Now (The Beatles song)|All Together Now]]"<br>"[[Hey Bulldog]]"<br>"[[It's All Too Much]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"Pepperland"<br>"Sea of Time"<br>"Sea of Holes"<br>"Sea of Monsters"<br>"March of the Meanies" <br>"Pepperland Laid Waste"<br>"Yellow Submarine in Pepperland"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 17 weeks – debut at #1, plus 1 week at #2; 92 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PCS 7088 Albums in stereo only from this point on.<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-09-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Come Together]]"<br>"[[Something]]"<br>"[[Maxwell's Silver Hammer]]"<br>"[[Oh! Darling]]"<br>"[[Octopus's Garden]]"<br>"[[I Want You (She's So Heavy)]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Here Comes the Sun]]"<br>"[[Because (The Beatles song)|Because]]"<br>"[[You Never Give Me Your Money]]"<br>"[[Sun King (song)|Sun King]]"<br>"[[Mean Mr. Mustard]]"<br>"[[Polythene Pam]]"<br>"[[She Came in Through the Bathroom Window]]"<br>"[[Golden Slumbers (The Beatles)|Golden Slumbers]]"<br>"[[Carry That Weight]]"<br>"[[The End (The Beatles song)|The End]]"<br>"[[Her Majesty (song)|Her Majesty]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 3 weeks – debut at #1, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 60 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Parlophone PXS 1 (Box Set) /PCS 7096 (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-08]] (Box Set)<br>[[1970-11-06]] (Regular LP)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Two of Us (1969 song)|Two of Us]]"<br>"[[Dig a Pony]]"<br>"[[Across the Universe]]"<br>"[[I Me Mine]]"<br>"[[Dig It]]"<br>"[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"<br>"[[Maggie Mae]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Got a Feeling]]"<br>"[[One After 909]]"<br>"[[The Long and Winding Road]]"<br>"[[For You Blue]]"<br>"[[Get Back]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
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===U.S. albums===<br />
In the [[United States]], as noted above, The Beatles albums were rearranged, retitled and remixed. Some of the U.S. releases were nearly identical to their UK counterparts, often only varying by one or two songs. Most releases contained songs that were also found on other records, which made things difficult for the American Beatles fan trying to purchase the band's entire catalogue. By 1967, beginning with ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'', all U.S. releases matched the UK releases exactly (with the exception of the UK double EP ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' (1967), which was released as an LP in the U.S. and included extra tracks not found on the UK release).<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Introducing... The Beatles]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 49 weeks on chart) (2/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Vee-Jay Records|Vee-Jay]] VJLP 1062 (Mono)/VJSR 1062 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-07-22]], and [[1964-01-27]] (Versions 1 and 2 respectively)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]" ("[[Ask Me Why]]" on Version 2)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]" ("[[Please Please Me]]" on Version 2)<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Meet the Beatles!]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 71 weeks on chart) (2/8/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 2047 (Mono)/ST 2047 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[It Won't Be Long]]"<br>"[[All I've Got to Do]]"<br>"[[All My Loving]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Don't Bother Me]]"<br>"[[Little Child]]"<br>"[[Till There Was You]]"<br>"[[Hold Me Tight]]"<br>"[[I Wanna Be Your Man]]"<br>"[[Not a Second Time]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks; 55 weeks on chart) (4/25/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2080 (Mono)/ST 2080 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-04-10]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Money (That's What I Want)|Money]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)#The American release|A Hard Day's Night]]'' ('''#1''' for 14 weeks; 51 weeks on chart) (7/18/1964) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[United Artists Records|United Artists]] UAL 3366 (Mono)/UAS 6366 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-06-26]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"<br>"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[I Should Have Known Better]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"Ringo's Theme (This Boy)" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"<br>"[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' (#2 for 9 weeks; 41 weeks on chart) (8/15/1964)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2108 (Mono)/ST 2108 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-07-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I'll Cry Instead]]"<br>"[[Things We Said Today]]"<br>"[[Any Time at All]]"<br>"[[When I Get Home]]"<br>"[[Slow Down]]"<br>"[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Tell Me Why (1964 song)|Tell Me Why]]"<br>"[[And I Love Her]]"<br>"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br>"[[If I Fell]]"<br>"[[Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles '65]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks; 71 weeks on chart) (1/9/1965-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2228 (Mono)/ST 2228 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-12-15]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[No Reply (song)|No Reply]]"<br>"[[I'm a Loser]]"<br>"[[Baby's in Black]]"<br>"[[Rock and Roll Music]]"<br>"[[I'll Follow the Sun]]"<br>"[[Mr. Moonlight (song)|Mr. Moonlight]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Honey Don't]]"<br>"[[I'll Be Back (song)|I'll Be Back]]"<br>"[[She's a Woman]]"<br>"[[I Feel Fine]]"<br>"[[Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Early Beatles]]'' (#43; 35 weeks on chart)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2309 (Mono)/ST 2309 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-03-22]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatles VI]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 41 weeks on chart) (7/10/1965)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2358 (Mono)/ST 2358 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-06-14]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Kansas City (R&B song)|Kansas City]]/[[Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey]]"<br>"[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"<br>"[[You Like Me Too Much]]"<br>"[[Bad Boy (Larry Williams song)|Bad Boy]]"<br>"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br>"[[Words of Love]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[What You're Doing]]"<br>"[[Yes It Is]]"<br>"[[Dizzy Miss Lizzy]]"<br>"[[Tell Me What You See]]"<br>"[[Every Little Thing (song)|Every Little Thing]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Help! (album)#American release|Help!]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another week at #2; 44 weeks on chart) (9/11/1965) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2386 (Mono)/SMAS 2386 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-08-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" (with "[[James Bond Theme]]" intro)<br>"[[The Night Before]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]] Fantasy" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You've Got to Hide Your Love Away]]"<br>"[[I Need You (The Beatles song)|I Need You]]"<br>"In the Tyrol" (Instrumental)<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Another Girl]]"<br>"Another Hard Day's Night" (Instrumental)<br>"[[Ticket to Ride]]"<br>"The Bitter End/[[You Can't Do That]]" (Instrumental)<br>"[[You're Gonna Lose That Girl]]"<br>"The Chase" (Instrumental)<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Rubber Soul]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (1/8/1966-)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2442 (Mono)/ST 2442 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1965-12-06]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I've Just Seen a Face]]"<br>"[[Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)]]"<br>"[[You Won't See Me]]"<br>"[[Think for Yourself]]"<br>"[[The Word (song)|The Word]]"<br>"[[Michelle (song)|Michelle]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[It's Only Love]]"<br>"[[Girl (Beatles song)|Girl]]"<br>"[[I'm Looking Through You]]"<br>"[[In My Life]]"<br>"[[Wait (song)|Wait]]"<br>"[[Run for Your Life]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yesterday . . . and Today|Yesterday… and Today]]'' ('''#1''' for 5 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 31 weeks on chart) (7/16/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2553 (Mono)/ST 2553 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-06-20]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Drive My Car]]"<br>"[[I'm Only Sleeping]]"<br>"[[Nowhere Man]]"<br>"[[Dr. Robert]]"<br>"[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"<br>"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[And Your Bird Can Sing]]"<br>"[[If I Needed Someone]]"<br>"[[We Can Work It Out]]"<br>"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br>"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' ('''#1''' for 6 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 77 weeks on chart) (9/10/1966)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 2576 (Mono)/ST 2576 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1966-08-08]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Taxman]]"<br>"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br>"[[Love You To]]"<br>"[[Here, There and Everywhere]]"<br>"[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"<br>"[[She Said She Said]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Good Day Sunshine]]"<br>"[[For No One]]"<br>"[[I Want to Tell You]]"<br>"[[Got to Get You Into My Life]]"<br>"[[Tomorrow Never Knows]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' ('''#1''' for 15 weeks, plus another 6 weeks at #2; 175 weeks on chart) (6/24/1967) "Grammy Award Winner for the Album of the Year in[[1967]]"<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAS 2653 (Mono)/SMAS 2653 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-06-02]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release. It should be noted, though, that the two seconds of gibberish placed on the concentric groove of the UK release was left off the U.S. release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ('''#1''' for 8 weeks; 91 weeks on chart) (12/30/1967+) (1/6/1968-) {The Movie Soundtrack & 1967 singles}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol MAL 2835 (Mono)/SMAL 2835 (Stereo)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1967-11-27]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Magical Mystery Tour (song)|Magical Mystery Tour]]"<br>"[[The Fool on the Hill]]"<br>"[[Flying (song)|Flying]]"<br>"[[Blue Jay Way]]"<br>"[[Your Mother Should Know]]"<br>"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Hello, Goodbye]]"<br>"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br>"[[Penny Lane]]"<br>"[[Baby, You're a Rich Man]]"<br>"[[All You Need Is Love]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]'' ('''#1''' for 9 weeks, plus another 2 weeks at #2; 155 weeks on chart) (12/14/1968)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Apple Records|Apple]]/Capitol SWBO 101 (All albums in stereo only from this point on)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1968-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' (#2 for 2 weeks – kept off the top spot by ''The White Album''; 25 weeks on chart) (2/15/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SW 153<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]'' ('''#1''' for 11 weeks, plus another 7 weeks at #2; 129 weeks on chart) (10/25/1969)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/Capitol SO 383<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1969-10-01]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]'' ('''#1''' for 4 weeks, plus another 4 weeks at #2; 59 weeks on chart) (6/6/1970) {The Movie Soundtrack}<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Apple/United Artists AR 34001<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1970-05-18]]<br />
|-<br />
|vallign="top" colspan="2"|Track listing is identical to the UK release.<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian albums===<br />
The division of [[Capitol Records]] in [[Canada]] released three unique albums and nine singles in 1963 and 1964 before aligning with the American division and releasing the same albums as in the U.S. The first Canadian release was the "[[Love Me Do]]" single (72076) on [[1963-02-04]].<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Beatlemania! With the Beatles]]'' (#1 CAN, 6 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|[[Capitol Records|Capitol]] T 6051 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1963-11-25]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Track listing identical to the British album ''[[With the Beatles]]''.<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[Twist and Shout (Beatles Canada album)|Twist and Shout]]'' (#1 CAN, 10 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6054 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-01-13]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Anna (Go to Him)]]"<br>"[[Chains (song)|Chains]]"<br>"[[Boys (Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br>"[[Ask Me Why]]"<br>"[[Please Please Me]]"<br>"[[Love Me Do]]"<br>"[[From Me to You]]''<br />
|valign="top"|"[[P.S. I Love You (The Beatles song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br>"[[Baby It's You]]"<br>"[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"<br>"[[A Taste of Honey (song)|A Taste of Honey]]"<br>"[[There's a Place]]"<br>"[[Twist and Shout]]"<br>"[[She Loves You]]''<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
|-<br />
|colspan="3"|<hr width="100%" /><br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|''[[The Beatles' Long Tall Sally]]'' (#1 CAN, 5 weeks)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Label:<br />
|valign="top"|Capitol T 6063 (Mono)<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|Released:<br />
|valign="top"|[[1964-05-11]]<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top" colspan="2"|<br />
{|<br />
|-<br />
|'''Side one'''<br />
|'''Side two'''<br />
|-<br />
|valign="top"|"[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"<br>"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]"<br>"[[You Really Got a Hold on Me]]"<br>"[[Devil in Her Heart]]"<br>"[[Roll Over Beethoven]]"<br>"[[Misery (song)|Misery]]"<br />
|valign="top"|"[[Long Tall Sally]]"<br>"[[I Call Your Name]]"<br>"[[Please Mr. Postman]]"<br>"[[This Boy]]"<br>"[[I'll Get You]]"<br>"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
After this album, Capitol of Canada synchronised its catalogue production with the U.S. market, beginning with United Artists' ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' and concluding with Apple's ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''. Notably, the albums ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]'' and ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'' were only produced in mono when originally released. In 1967 the American back catalogue was released in Canada:<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]'', ST 2080 (Stereo)/ T 2080 (Mono), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Meet The Beatles]]'', ST 2047 (Stereo), February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[Something New]]'', ST 2108, February 1, [[1967]]<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', STBO 2222 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
* ''[[The Early Beatles]]'', ST 2309 (Stereo), August 1, [[1968]]<br />
<br />
==Compilations and other releases==<br />
===UK compilations and other releases===<br />
* ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1966-12-09]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' First]]'' [[Polydor Records]] ([[1967-08-04]]) (British issue of the 1964 German LP)<br />
* ''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album") Apple Records #3([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 3)<br />
* ''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album") Apple Records #2([[1973-04-19]]) (Re-released in Sep 1993 and hit UK number 4)<br />
:Note: Two double compilation albums, featuring as covers an alternate shot of the photograph originally taken for ''Please Please Me'' and a [[1969]] re-creation (originally for ''Get Back'', which evolved into ''Let It Be'') based upon that photograph.<br />
* ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-06-10]]) #11<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1976-11-19]]) [sic] (Official UK issue of the American album using the Capitol masters, except for "Penny Lane," "Baby You're a Rich Man," and "All You Need is Love," which were the German mixes released on the Hör Zu! label in 1971. It became part of the official catalogue with its release on CD with every track in true-stereo. As an American import, the album peaked at #31 in 1968. Continued sales of the album as an import led to this release.)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-05-06]]) (Live performances from [[1964-08-23]] and [[1965-08-30]] at the [[Hollywood Bowl]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-19]]) #7<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1977-11-02]]) (A 14-record box set containing all of [[The Beatles discography#Studio albums|The Beatles' original Parlophone/Apple LPs]] along with ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'')<br />
* ''[[Rarities (Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1978-12-02]]) (Although not made explicit on the sleeve, this album consisted of every Parlophone and Apple Beatles B-side and EP track which had not been included on their UK studio albums, or on the 1973 "Red" and "Blue" Albums. It included 2 songs in German ("Sie Liebt Dich" and "Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand"), a song recorded for an American album and an alternative version of "Across The Universe") #71<br />
* ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1979-05-11]]) (Official UK issue of American album)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1980-10-13]]) (compilation) #17<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box]]'' Parlophone Records/World Records ([[1980-11-03]]) (This is an 8-record compilation which was available by mail order only)<br />
* ''[[Reel Music]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-03-29]]) (compilation of tracks from The Beatles' films) Did not chart<br />
* ''The Beatles Mono Collection'' Parlophone/Apple (1982-10-??) (box set - 10 chronological mono Beatle albums from ''[[Please Please Me]]'' to ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]'' excluding ''[[A Collection of Beatles Oldies]]''. Intended for export, originally in a red box similar to ''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', reissued later in black)<br />
* ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1982-10-18]]) #10<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1962-1965 and other songs that were left off earlier albums) #49<br />
* ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'' Parlophone Records ([[1988-03-07]]) (singles from 1965-1970 and other songs that were left off later albums) #46<br />
:Note: The reason for the Past Masters compilations are so that every song The Beatles released in 1962-1970 could be on a CD. They include singles and B-sides, two songs sung in German, the contents of an EP released in 1964 that had four additional songs, the "single" versions of the songs "Get Back" and "Let It Be", and a version of "Across the Universe" that had bird-like sound effects. ''Past Masters'' was also issued as a 2-LP set on [[1988-11-10]].<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Apple/Parlophone Records ([[1988-12-05]]) (contains the official Apple/Parlophone Beatle catalogue on CD including the two Past Masters volumes along with a soft cover book by [[Mark Lewisohn]] describing every track in this collection which is contained in a roll top wooden box)<br />
* ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'' Apple Records ([[1994-11-30]]) (Contains 69 songs The Beatles recorded for various [[BBC]] radio shows that never were recorded for Parlophone/Capitol/EMI. #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 1]]'' Apple Records ([[1995-11-21]]) (Containing early performances, live shows, demos, out-takes in the period [[1958]] to [[1964]] and the first "new" Beatles song since the band broke up in [[1970]]) #2<br />
* ''[[Anthology 2]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-03-18]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, live shows, demos, and out-takes from [[1965]] to [[1968]]) #1<br />
* ''[[Anthology 3]]'' Apple Records ([[1996-10-28]]) (Containing unreleased tracks, demos, and out-takes in the period [[1968]] to [[1970]]) #4<br />
* ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'' Apple Records ([[1999-09-13]]) #8<br />
* ''[[The Beatles 1]]'' Apple Records ([[2000-11-13]]) (A collection of The Beatles' #1 hits on the Billboard [U.S.] and Record Retailer [UK] charts, including ''both'' sides of their double-A sided singles if both hit the top slot. The collection has 27 songs in it.) #1<br />
* ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'' Apple Records ([[2003-11-17]]) (Remastered and remixed cut from the original sessions, devoid of arrangements by "re-producer" [[Phil Spector]]. The first copies released shipped with a 21-minute ''Fly on the Wall'' bonus disc.) #7<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2004-11-15]]) (A re-issuing of the first four Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'' Apple/Capitol/Parlophone Records ([[2006-04-11]]) (A re-issuing of The Beatles albums that Capitol released in the U.S. in [[1965]]. Both versions, mono and stereo)<br />
* ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'' Apple Records ([[2006-11-20]]) #3 (A soundtrack to the [[Cirque du Soleil]] production [[Love (Cirque du Soleil)|Love]], featuring remastered and remixed versions of the Beatles' songs by Sir George Martin and his son [[Giles Martin]])<br />
<br />
===U.S. compilations and other releases===<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Story]]'', Capitol TBO 2222 (Mono)/STBO 2222 (Stereo ([[1964-11-23]]) #7 (12/19/1964+) (1/2/1965-)<br />
*''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]'', Apple/Capitol SW 385 ([[1970-02-26]]) #2(4) (3/21/1970)<br />
*''[[In the Beginning (Circa 1960)]]'', [[Polydor Records]] 24-4504 ([[1970-05-04]]) #117<br />
*''[[1962–1966]]'' (the "Red Album"), Apple SKBO-3403 ([[1973-04-02]]) #3 (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[1967–1970]]'' (the "Blue Album"), Apple SKBO-3404 ([[1973-04-02]]) #1(1) (4/21/1973)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1976-06-07]]) #2(2) (6/26/1976)<br />
*''[[Live! at the Star-Club in Hamburg, Germany; 1962]]'', [[Lingasong]] ([[May 2]], [[1977]]) #111<br />
*''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-05-04]]) #2(2) (5/21/1977)<br />
*''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]'', Capitol Records ([[1977-10-21]]) #24 (11/19/1977)<br />
*''[[The Beatles Collection]]'', Capitol Records ([[1979-12-01]]) (Unlike the British release, the American issue was a limited edition with only 3000 copies made. The British release which was not a limited edition became a popular import for the U.S. market as a result.)<br />
*''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]'', Capitol SHAL-12060 ([[1980-03-24]]) #21 (4/19/1980)<br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]'', Music For Pleasure ([[1980-10-27]]) <br />
*''[[Reel Music]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-03-22]]) #19 (4/10/1982)<br />
*''[[20 Greatest Hits]]'', Capitol Records ([[1982-10-11]]) #50<br />
*''[[Please Please Me]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[With the Beatles]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Beatles for Sale]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-02-26]])<br />
*''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Rubber Soul]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]])<br />
*''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]'' (British version), Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1987-04-30]]'')<br />
: (The above 1987 CD releases mark the first official releases for The Beatles' early British albums in the U.S.)<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #149<br />
*''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]'', Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-03-07]]) #121<br />
:(''Past Masters'' as a 2-LP set was issued by Capitol Records on [[1988-10-24]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]'' Parlophone/Capitol Records ([[1988-11-15]])<br />
*''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]'', Capitol Records ([[1994-12-06]]) #3 (12/24/1994+) (1/8/1995-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[1995-11-21]]) #1 (12/9/1995+) (1/13/1996-)<br />
*''[[Anthology 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-03-19]]) #1 (4/20/1996)<br />
*''[[Anthology 3]]'', Capitol Records ([[1996-10-29]]) #1 (11/23/1996+) (1/3/1997-)<br />
*''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]'', Capitol Records ([[1999-09-14]]) #15 (10/2/1999)<br />
*''[[The Beatles 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2000-11-14]]) #1 (12/2/2000+) (1/6/2001-)<br />
*''[[Let It Be… Naked]]'', Capitol Records ([[2003-11-18]]) #5 (12/13/2003+) (1/17/2004-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]'', Capitol Records ([[2004-11-16]]) #35 (12/4/2004+) (1/1/2005-)<br />
*''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-04-11]]) #46<br />
*''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]'', Capitol Records ([[2006-11-21]]) #4 (12/16/2006+) (1/20/2007-)<br />
<br />
===Canadian compilations and other releases=== <br />
All post-Beatles albums were released exactly the same in Canada as in the U.S., with the exception of:<br />
* ''[[Very Together]]'', Polydor (Fall [[1969]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Ballads]]'', Capitol Records ([[1980-10-13]])<br />
<br />
==Extended plays (EPs)==<br />
During the years that the Beatles were together and recording, album tracks were not customarily released as singles, and vice versa. Instead, [[EMI]] would release album tracks as EPs, long singles with two songs per side. With two exceptions, the EPs feature songs also available on Beatles albums, rather than original material.<br />
<br />
===UK EPs===<br />
* ''[[Twist and Shout (EP)|Twist and Shout]]'' ([[1963-07-12]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Hits]]'' ([[1963-09-06]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (No. 1) (EP)|The Beatles (No. 1)]]'' ([[1963-11-01]])<br />
* ''[[All My Loving (EP)|All My Loving]]'' ([[1964-02-07]])<br />
* ''[[Long Tall Sally (EP)|Long Tall Sally]]'' ([[1964-06-19]]) The first Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material, including the [[Lennon-McCartney]] original "[[I Call Your Name]]".<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the film)]]'' ([[1964-11-04]])<br />
* ''[[A Hard Day's Night (Extracts from the album)]]'' ([[1964-11-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (EP)|Beatles for Sale]]'' ([[1965-04-06]])<br />
* ''[[Beatles for Sale (No. 2)]]'' ([[1965-06-04]])<br />
* ''[[The Beatles' Million Sellers]]'' ([[1965-12-06]])<br />
* ''[[Yesterday (EP)|Yesterday]]'' ([[1966-03-04]])<br />
* ''[[Nowhere Man (EP)|Nowhere Man]]'' ([[1966-07-08]])<br />
* ''[[Magical Mystery Tour]]'' ([[1967-12-08]]); #2 (in the UK singles chart topped by "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"). The second Beatles EP to feature otherwise unavailable material. This record consisted of the original songs recorded by the Beatles for the "Magical Mystery Tour" film.<br />
*''[[The Beatles EP Collection]]'', Parlophone ([[1981-12-07]]) (15-disc 7" EP set, featuring all 13 Beatles British EPs, with both mono and stereo editions of [[Magical Mystery Tour]] plus an EP of 4 stereo mixes, new to the UK, of "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]", housed in a blue flip-top box similar to [[The Beatles Collection]]. The set was issued on CD in a black box for the first time in the UK on ([[1992-05-26]] with releases in the U.S. and Japan in the following month)<br />
* ''[[The Beatles (EP)|The Beatles]]'' ([[1981-12-07]]) (a rarities' EP featuring "[[The Inner Light]]", "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]", "[[She's a Woman]]" and "[[This Boy]]")<br />
<br />
===U.S. EPs===<br />
* ''[[Souvenir of Their Visit to America]]'' (Vee Jay Records) ([[1964-03-23]])<br />
* ''[[Four by the Beatles]]'' ([[1964-05-11]])<br />
* ''[[4-by the Beatles]]'' ([[1965-02-01]])<br />
* ''[[Baby It's You (Shirelles)|Baby It's You]]'' ([[1995-03-23]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]'' ([[1995-12-12]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
* ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' ([[1996-03-05]]) (Maxi-CD single)<br />
<br />
==Singles==<br />
The [[UK Singles Chart]] is compiled solely from sales figures; airplay statistics are not used. For this reason the chart positions for the UK Singles are indicated per disc, not per song. '''Pos''' column indicates the peak position in the charts. <br />
<br />
===UK singles===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="width: 2em" | Pos<br />
! style="min-width: 28em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-01-05]]<br />
| #48<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| {{nowrap|Polydor NH 66-833}}<br />
| (by "[[Tony Sheridan]] & The Beatles")[http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/hamburg.html]<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-10-05]]<br />
| #17<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-01-11]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4983<br />
| (#1 in [[N.M.E]]'s chart)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5015<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-08-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-11-29]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5084<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-20]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" / "[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5114<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-29]]<br />
| #29<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[If You Love Me, Baby]]"<br />
| Polydor NH 52-317<br />
| ([[B-side]] with [[Tony Sheridan]], vocal)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" / "[[Things We Said Today]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5160<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-27]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" / "[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5200<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-09]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" / "[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5265<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-23]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" / "[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5305<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-03]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" / "[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5389<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-06-10]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5452<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-05]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5493<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-17]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5570<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-07]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5620<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-24]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5655<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-15]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Parlophone R5675<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple R5722<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-04-11]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple R5777<br />
| (The Beatles with [[Billy Preston]])<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-30]]<br />
| #1<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple R5786<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-31]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Something]]" / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple R5814<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-06]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple R5833<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-03-08]]<br />
| #8<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6013<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-29]]<br />
| #19<br />
| "[[Back in the USSR]]" / "[[Twist and Shout]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6016<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-09-30]]<br />
| #63<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6022<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-05-25]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R6055<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-11-19]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Parlophone R4949<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-12-06]]<br />
| <br />
| ''[[The Beatles Singles Collection]]''<br />
| Parlophone BSC 1<br />
| <small>22-disc 7" singles set, featuring the complete Beatles EMI singles catalogue, with new picture sleeves for many of the discs. The set was first issued on CD in the UK 1992-11-02, and in the U.S. 1992-11-09. The set was first packaged in Japan using a longbox housing the complete set of 3" CD singles in December 1989.</small><br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-03-20]]<br />
| #7<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Shirelles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple R6406<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| #2<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple R6422<br />
| (first new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| #4<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" / "[[Baby's in Black]]"<br />
| Apple R6425<br />
| (second new Beatles song in 25 years)<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===U.S. singles===<br />
The [[Billboard Hot 100]] chart in the U.S. is compiled from sales <strong>and</strong> airplay statistics, so the individual songs on any given disc can be charted separately.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| (Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" / "[[Ask Me Why]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 498<br />
| (Early pressings misspelled as The Beattles)<!-- both misspellings existed on the released singles --><br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-05-27]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#116</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Vee-Jay 522<br />
| <br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (first release; white label with red print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> (1/25/1964-)[A] / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#14</sup> (1/25/1964-)[B]<br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-25]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/1/1964) / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| (second release; black label with silver print)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-27]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" <sup>#26</sup> (3/7/1964) / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| MGM 13213<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-01-30]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]" <sup>#3</sup> (2/22/1964) / "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#41</sup><br />
| Vee-Jay 581<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-08]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#45</sup> / "[[This Boy]]"<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#68</sup> / "[[Please Mister Postman]]"<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| (Canadian import)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-02]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#2</sup> (3/21/1964) / "[[There's a Place]]" <sup>#74</sup><br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/28/1964) / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#48</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-23]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]" <sup>#2</sup> (4/11/1964) / "[[Thank You Girl]]" <sup>#35</sup> (4/25/1964)<br />
| Vee-Jay 587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" <sup>#88</sup> / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-27]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/2/1964) / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]" <sup>#10</sup> (5/16/1964)<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-05-21]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" (She Loves You) <sup>#97</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4182<br />
| (German, A-side shown as "DIE BEATLES")<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-01]]<br />
| "[[Sweet Georgia Brown]]" / "Take Out Some Insurance on Me Baby"<br />
| Atco 6302<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" <sup>#19</sup> (8/1/1964) / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/18/1964) / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#25</sup> (8/15/1964) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#95</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#12</sup> (8/8/1964) / "[[If I Fell]]" <sup>#53</sup><br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#17</sup> (9/19/1964) / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#25</sup> (9/26/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/5/1964) / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#4</sup> (12/12/1964)<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> (2/27/1965) / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#39</sup> (3/20/1965)<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/1/1965) / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#46</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> (8/14/1965) / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#101</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/2/1965) / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#47</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/18/1965+) (1/8/1966-) / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#5</sup> (12/25/1965+) (1/22/1966-)<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#3</sup> (3/5/1966) / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]" <sup>#81</sup><br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> (6/11/1966) / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]] <sup>#23</sup> (6/25/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#2</sup> (8/27/1966) / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#11</sup> (9/10/1966)<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/4/1967) / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#8</sup> (3/11/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> (7/29/1967) / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]" <sup>#34</sup> (8/12/1967)<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> (12/9/1967) / "[[I Am the Walrus]]" <sup>#56</sup><br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#4</sup> (3/23/1968) / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]" <sup>#96</sup><br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> (9/14/1968) [A] / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#12</sup> (9/14/1968) [B]<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/10/1969) [A] / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#35</sup> (5/10/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" <sup>#8</sup> (6/21/1969) / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B] / "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> (10/18/1969) [B]<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> (3/21/1970) / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [A] / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup> (5/23/1970) [B]<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#7</sup> (6/19/1976) / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#49</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" <sup>#71</sup> / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" <sup>#12</sup> (4/10/1982) / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#23</sup> (8/30/1986) / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird (song)|Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> (12/30/1995+) (1/6/1996-) / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| first new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> (3/23/1996) / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| second new Beatles song in 25 years<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Canadian singles===<br />
As appeared on the "[[CHUM Chart|CHUM Hit Parade]]" charts between the weeks of Monday [[6 January]] [[1963]] and Saturday [[8 January]] [[1977]].<ref>http://www.1050chum.com/index_chumcharts.aspx?artist=7600</ref> Capitol of Canada said yes to The Beatles from day one and issued early Beatle singles in their 72000 series of Canada only releases<ref>http://www.capitol6000.com/protected/7200045s.htm</ref> before aligning with the American company's numbering system when the American company began issuing Beatle singles. American Beatle recordings issued on the Vee-Jay, Swan and Tollie labels were issued by Capitol of Canada with 72000 series catalogue numbers. Capitol Canada was the only country outside of the U.K. to issue version 1 of "Love Me Do" with Ringo on the drums.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! style="width: 7em" | Release date<br />
! style="min-width: 30em; width: 40%" | Songs<br />
! | Label/number<br />
! style="max-width: 20em" | Notes<br />
|-<br />
| [[1962-04-23]]<br />
| "[[My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean|My Bonnie]]" / "[[When the Saints Go Marching In|The Saints]]"<br />
| Decca 31382<br />
| Test Pressing, never issued<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-03]]<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]" <sup>#8</sup> / "[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72076<br />
| #8 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-23<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-02-25]]<br />
| "[[Please Please Me (song)|Please Please Me]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72090<br />
| #5 for two weeks beginning 1964-03-09<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-06-18]]<br />
| "[[From Me to You]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| Capitol 72101<br />
| #6 on 1964-03-09<br />
|- <br />
| [[1963-09-16]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Capitol 72125<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-01-20<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-09]]<br />
| "[[Roll Over Beethoven]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72133<br />
| First Canadian Beatle single to make charts almost immediately upon release.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1963-12-26]]<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-02-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-02-17]]<br />
| "[[All My Loving]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[This Boy]]" <sup>#1</sup> [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72144<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1964-03-23. This Boy held the #1 spot alone after All My Loving had fallen to #5 in week six.<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" <sup>#5</sup> / "[[There's a Place]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72146<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-27]]<br />
| "Why" / "Cry for a Shadow"<br />
| MGM 13227<br />
| (The Beatles With Tony Sheridan)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-03-16]]<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]" <sup>#3</sup> / "[[You Can't Do That]]" <sup>#33</sup><br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-04-20]]<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret?]]" / "[[Thank You Girl]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72159<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-06-15]]<br />
| "[[She Loves You|Sie Liebt Dich]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[Ask Me Why|Ask My Way]]" [sic]<br />
| Capitol 72162<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-06]]<br />
| "[[Ain't She Sweet]]" / "[[Nobody's Child]]" (w/Tony Sheridan)<br />
| Atco 6308<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-13]]<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Should Have Known Better]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1964-08-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]" <sup>#20</sup> / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]" <sup>#20</sup><br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-07-20]]<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]" <sup>#15</sup> / "[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-08-24]]<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Slow Down]]" <sup>#6</sup><br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1964-11-23]]<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[She's a Woman]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1964-12-21<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-02-15]]<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1965-03-15<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-04-19]]<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Yes It Is]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-05-10<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-07-19]]<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I'm Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1965-08-16<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-09-13]]<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Act Naturally]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1965-10-11<br />
|-<br />
| [[1965-12-06]]<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Day Tripper]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1965-12-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-02-21]]<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1966-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-05-30]]<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1966-08-08]]<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Eleanor Rigby]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1966-08-29<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-02-13]]<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-02-27<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-07-17]]<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1967-08-07<br />
|-<br />
| [[1967-11-27]]<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| #1 for three weeks beginning 1967-12-04<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-03-18]]<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| #1 for one week beginning 1968-04-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1968-08-26]]<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| #1 for six weeks beginning 1968-09-14<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-05-05]]<br />
| "[[Get Back]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| #1 for five weeks beginning 1969-05-17, (The Beatles with Billy Preston)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-06-04]]<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]" / "[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Banned from Canadian Radio stations nationwide<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Something]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1969-11-08<br />
|-<br />
| [[1969-10-06]]<br />
| "[[Come Together]]" / "[[Something]]" <br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| Released with A-side as B-side<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-03-11]]<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| #1 for four weeks beginning 1970-03-28<br />
|-<br />
| [[1970-05-11]]<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]" <sup>#1</sup> / "[[For You Blue]]" <sup>#1</sup><br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| #1 for two weeks beginning 1970-06-13<br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-05-31]]<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]" <sup>#2</sup> / "[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1976-06-08]]<br />
| "[[Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da]]" <sup>#19</sup> / "[[Julia (song)|Julia]]"<br />
| Capitol 4347<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1978-08-14]]<br />
| "[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song)|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]" / "[[With a Little Help from My Friends]]" / "[[A Day in the Life]]"<br />
| Capitol 4612<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1982-03-22]]<br />
| "[[Beatles Movie Medley]]" / "[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5107<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1986-07-23]]<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]" / "[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Capitol 5624<br />
| (reissue)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-04-17]]<br />
| "[[Baby It's You (The Beatles song)|Baby It's You]]" <sup>#67</sup> / "[[I'll Follow the Sun]]" / "[[Devil in Her Heart]]" / "[[Boys (The Beatles song)|Boys]]"<br />
| Apple 58348<br />
| (EP)<br />
|-<br />
| [[1995-12-12]]<br />
| "[[Free as a Bird]]" <sup>#6</sup> / "[[Christmas Time (Is Here Again)]]"<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| <br />
|-<br />
| [[1996-03-04]]<br />
| "[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]" <sup>#11</sup> / "[[Baby's in Black]]" (live)<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| <br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Christmas records==<br />
The Beatles also recorded annual Christmas records for their fan club members. From 1963 to 1969 these were released as 7" flexidiscs on LYN. In 1970 the 7 previous records were put onto a 12" vinyl record, ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]''. These remain largely unavailable today (although they have been widely bootlegged), with the exception of one track, "Christmas Time Is Here Again", which was edited and released on the ''Free As a Bird'' CD single in [[1994]]: <br />
*''The Beatles Christmas Record'', LYN 492 ([[1963]])<br />
*''Season's Greetings from The Beatles'', LYN 757 ([[1964]])<br />
*''The Beatles 3rd Christmas Record'', LYN 948 ([[1965]])<br />
*''Everywhere It's Christmas'', LYN 1145 ([[1966]])<br />
*''Christmas Time Is Here Again'', LYN 1360 ([[1967]])<br />
*''Beatles 1968 Christmas Record'', LYN 1743/4 ([[1968]])<br />
*''Happy Christmas 1969'', LYN 1970/1 ([[1969]])<br />
*''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album|From Then to You]]'', (UK) [[Apple Records|Apple]] LYN 2154 / ''[[The Beatles' Christmas Album]]'' (U.S.) Apple SBC 100 ([[1970]])<br />
<br />
==Sales figures==<br />
===[[RIAA]] and [[Soundscan]] albums===<br />
US Sales figures.<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
!scope="col"| Album<br />
!scope="col"| RIAA<br />
!scope="col"| Soundscan<br />
!scope="col"| [[United World Chart]]<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles (album)|The Beatles]]''<br />
| {{nowrap|19x [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Platinum]] ([[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Diamond]] plus nine)}}<br />
| 3,125,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1967–1970]]''<br />
| 16x Platinum (Diamond plus six)<br />
| 2,568,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[1962–1966]]''<br />
| 15x Platinum (Diamond plus five)<br />
| 2,214,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Abbey Road (album)|Abbey Road]]''<br />
| 12x Platinum (Diamond plus two)<br />
| 3,910,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''{{nowrap|[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]}}''<br />
| 11x Platinum (Diamond plus one)<br />
| 3,825,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles 1]]''<br />
| 10x Platinum (Diamond)<br />
| 11,107,000 <br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 1]]''<br />
| 8x Platinum<br />
| 3,666,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[A Hard Day's Night (album)|A Hard Day's Night]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,161,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Magical Mystery Tour (album)|Magical Mystery Tour]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 1,525,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rubber Soul]]''<br />
| 6x Platinum<br />
| 2,274,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Meet the Beatles!|Meet The Beatles!]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 50,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Revolver (album)|Revolver]]''<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
| 1,889,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Help! (album)|Help!]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,232,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be (album)|Let It Be]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,149,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Live at the BBC (The Beatles album)|Live at the BBC]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,518,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 2]]''<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
| 1,739,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles '65]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 24,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Hey Jude (album)|Hey Jude]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 68,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love Songs (The Beatles album)|Love Songs]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 94,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Anthology 3]]''<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
| 1,363,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[20 Greatest Hits]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 821,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Second Album]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 20,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Something New (album)|Something New]]''<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles for Sale]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 594,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Beatles VI]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Let It Be… Naked]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,147,000<br />
| +1,871,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume One]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 826,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Past Masters, Volume Two]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,164,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Please Please Me]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 772,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 216,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rock 'n' Roll Music|Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles Box Set]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| Not available<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 11,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 1]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 230,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Early Beatles]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 19,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine (album)|Yellow Submarine]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,090,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yesterday...and Today]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 26,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Love (The Beatles album)|Love]]''<br />
| Platinum<br />
| 1,670,000 <br />
| 4,395,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Rarities (American Beatles compilation)|Rarities]]''<br />
| [[RIAA certification#List of certifications|Gold]]<br />
| 10,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Reel Music]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 16,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Beatles' Story]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 3,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[The Capitol Albums, Volume 2]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 78,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[With the Beatles]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 563,000<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Yellow Submarine Songtrack]]''<br />
| Gold<br />
| 756,000<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total<br />
| '''172 Million'''<br />
| '''55,695,000'''{{Fact|date=March 2007}}<!--unreliable source removed - read [[WP:A]] - old reference to Proboards --><br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Singles sales figures===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
! Single<br />
! Cat. #<br />
! Sales<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Want to Hold Your Hand]]"/"[[I Saw Her Standing There]]" <br />
| Capitol 5112<br />
| 5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hey Jude]]"/"[[Revolution (song)|Revolution]]"<br />
| Apple 2276<br />
| 4x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Can't Buy Me Love]]"/"[[You Can't Do That]]"<br />
| Capitol 5150<br />
| 3x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[She Loves You]]"/"[[I'll Get You]]"<br />
| Swan 4152<br />
| 2.5x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Get Back]]"/"[[Don't Let Me Down (The Beatles song)|Don't Let Me Down]]"<br />
| Apple 2490<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Something]]"/"[[Come Together]]"<br />
| Apple 2654<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Let It Be (song)|Let It Be]]"/"[[You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)]]"<br />
| Apple 2764<br />
| 2x Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Twist and Shout]]"/"[[There's a Place]]"<br />
| Tollie 9001<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Love Me Do]]"/"[[P.S. I Love You (1962 song)|P.S. I Love You]]"<br />
| Tollie 9008<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Please Please Me]]"/"[[From Me to You]]"<br />
| VJ 581<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]]"/"[[Eleanor Rigby]]"<br />
| Capitol 5715<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[A Hard Day's Night (song)|A Hard Day's Night]]"/"[[I Should Have Known Better]]"<br />
| Capitol 5222<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[All You Need Is Love]]"/"[[Baby You're a Rich Man]]"<br />
| Capitol 5964<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Ballad of John and Yoko]]"/"[[Old Brown Shoe]]"<br />
| Apple 2531<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Do You Want to Know a Secret]]"/"[[Thank You Girl]]"<br />
| VJ 587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Eight Days a Week (song)|Eight Days a Week]]"/"[[I Don't Want to Spoil the Party]]"<br />
| Capitol 5371<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Hello, Goodbye]]"/"[[I Am the Walrus]]"<br />
| Capitol 2056<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Help! (song)|Help!]]"/"[[I'm Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5476<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I Feel Fine]]"/"[[She's a Woman]]"<br />
| Capitol 5327<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Lady Madonna]]"/"[[The Inner Light (song)|The Inner Light]]"<br />
| Capitol 2138<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]]"/"[[What Goes On (The Beatles song)|What Goes On]]"<br />
| Capitol 5587<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Paperback Writer]]"/"[[Rain (The Beatles song)|Rain]]"<br />
| Capitol 5651<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Penny Lane]]"/"[[Strawberry Fields Forever]]"<br />
| Capitol 5810<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[We Can Work It Out]]"/"[[Day Tripper]]"<br />
| Capitol 5555<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Yesterday (song)|Yesterday]]"/"[[Act Naturally]]"<br />
| Capitol 5498<br />
| Platinum<br />
|-<br />
| "[[And I Love Her]]"/"[[If I Fell]]"<br />
| Capitol 5235<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Free as a Bird]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58497<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Got to Get You into My Life]]"/"[[Helter Skelter]]"<br />
| Capitol 4274<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[I'll Cry Instead]]"/"[[I'm Happy Just to Dance with You]]"<br />
| Capitol 5234<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Matchbox (song)|Matchbox]]"/"[[Slow Down]]"<br />
| Capitol 5255<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| ''[[Real Love (The Beatles song)|Real Love]]'' EP<br />
| Apple 58544<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[The Long and Winding Road]]"/"[[For You Blue]]"<br />
| Apple 2832<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
| "[[Ticket to Ride]]"/"[[Yes It Is]]"<br />
| Capitol 5407<br />
| Gold<br />
|-<br />
!scope="row" style="text-align:left"| Total <br />
|<br />
| '''42 Million'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Bootlegs==<br />
See [[The Beatles bootlegs]] for a rundown of some of the more popular unauthorized bootleg material.<br />
<br />
==Bibliography==<br />
* {{cite book | author=Castleman, Harry and Walter J. Podrazik| title=All Together Now: the only Complete Beatles Discography 1961-1975 | publisher=Ballantine Books | year=1975 | id=ISBN 0-345-29794-6 }}<br />
* {{cite book | author=Wallgren, Mark| title=The Beatles on Record | publisher=Simon and Schuster | year=1982 | id=ISBN 0-671-45682-2 }}<br />
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==Future Releases==<br />
<br />
There are currently plans to release remastered versions of the Beatles catalogue according to Olivia Harrison, who claims that the plans are nearly complete. [[http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/feb/28/yoko-ono-lennons-art-he-would-not-have-minded]]<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
* {{Discogs artist|artist=Beatles%2C+The}}<br />
*[http://www.freewebs.com/thebeatlesbeat2/ Beatles LPs EPs and singles all over the world]<br />
*[http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2407 The Beatles reviews @ progarchives.com]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/btlps.html Beatles LP and CD discography]<br />
*[http://www.beatletracks.com/bt45s.html Beatles singles and EP discography]<br />
*[http://www.jpgr.co.uk/ A UK discography, including details on bootleg releases]<br />
*[http://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/music/beatcan.html The Beatles in Canada includes Canada-only discography]<br />
*[http://www.dermon.com/Beatles/Veejay.htm The Beatles on Vee-Jay Records]<br />
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