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Thiruthamizh

2007-11-17T19:23:43Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Thiruthamizh is a board game in [[tamil]] similar to [[Scrabble]] in english.
It consists of a 21*21 [[square]] grid board, 272 tiles of which 186 are letters and 86 are transparent [[tiles]] with marks such as dots and tails that when combined with the letter tiles give new letters.

The[[ game]] was created in 2007 by a [[husband and wife pair]]: Rajakumar and Sudha Rajakumar

Thiruthamizh

2007-11-17T19:19:27Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Thiruthamizh is a board game in tamil similar to Scrabble in english.
It consists of a 21*21 square grid board, 272 tiles of which 186 are letters and 86 are transparent tiles with marks such as dots and tails that when combined with the letter tiles give new letters.

The game was created in 2007 by a husband and wife pair: Rajakumar and Sudha Rajakumar

Thiruthamizh

2007-11-12T16:19:24Z

Sathyan Bhrama: ←Created page with 'Thiruthamizh is a board game similar to Scrabble in english. It consists of a 21*21 square grid board, 272 tiles of which 186 are letters and 86 are transparent til...'

Thiruthamizh is a board game similar to Scrabble in english.
It consists of a 21*21 square grid board, 272 tiles of which 186 are letters and 86 are transparent tiles with marks such as dots and tails that when combined with the letter tiles give new letters.

The game was created in 2007 by a husband and wife pair: Rajakumar and Sudha Rajakumar

User:Sathyan Bhrama

2006-07-02T15:11:03Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

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Hi people,

My name is Sathyan Bhrama, call me sathy. You can write to me at ''sathyan.bhrama@gmail.com''
--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 04:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

User talk:YellowMonkey

2006-06-25T07:03:01Z

Sathyan Bhrama: SAthyan BHrama

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'''You are welcome to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Blnguyen&action=edit&section=new leave me a message or request admin action].'''

{{admin|Blnguyen}} has been an [[WP:ADMIN|administrator]] since [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Blnguyen|29 May 2006]].

''The recent semi-protection of the [[Mahatma Gandhi]] and full protection of the [[Military budget of the People's Republic of China]] and [[Human rights in the People's Republic of China]] articles which I enacted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahatma_Gandhi&diff=58340993&oldid=58340712 here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_budget_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=57146174&oldid=57125211 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_rights_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=56944329&oldid=56926889 here] due to vandalism and edit-warring was [http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEL20060618231831&Title=World&Topic=0& reported in the Indian media]
and the [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/technology/17wiki.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&adxnnl=0&emc=th&adxnnlx=1150543441-Nof7ctx7%20AH77qh5FKXKNw New York Times]
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== What is the votingresult for Global Resource Bank? ==

How can result be delete? It is not correct treated and I will not accept this.--[[User:Swedenborg|Swedenborg]] 19:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

:The numbers and the arguments to rebut the "keeps" were pretty clear.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 03:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

:: Its not clear to me and not for a lot of others, please explane how this shit is working... doesnt look democratical or serious to me...--[[User:Swedenborg|Swedenborg]] 15:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

:::I've replied on your talk page. I believe the result is fair in the sense of reasoned debate and also the sheer democratic scale.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 08:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Tim Cahill ==

I suppose it could be incorporated in one of those sentences regarding the match vs. Japan, I wouldn't have an objection if you did that.{{unsigned|Yonatanh}}.

:OK Yonatan, that's fine, I'll incorporate it more smoothly and unobtrusively.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==[[user:FairNBalanced]]==
Please block the person who created the anti-muslim pig image. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 01:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:THANK YOU. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 01:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

:This user has a history of good-faith contributions interspersed with over-the-top remarks (though nothing approaching this photo). I think he's spent too much time at Little Green Footballs or something, and doesn't understand the proper limits of Wikipedia discourse. As the proud nominator for speedy delete, the photograph was a disgrace, compounded by the lack of legitimate copyright data. This kind of thing just ''can't'' be on or associated with Wikipedia. However, I see no reason to assume that he won't comply with WP policies in the future, particularly now that he knows they're enforced. The goal here should be not to punish him per se, but to bring him into compliance. I don't believe he's ever received so much as a warning. I'm curious to see what he'll have to say (if anything) when he sees he's been blocked, and reserve judgement until then.[[User:Timothy Usher|Timothy Usher]] 03:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== madonna moderna ==

WHY DID YOU DELETE THE ARTICLE ON MADONNA MODERNA, A VERY UNUSUAL ART WORK?
H A Autry. {{unsigned|172.163.68.158}}

: I deleted it because it was nominated for deletion on the grounds of "non-notable" by another user, under the {{tl|prod}} template, and this was uncontested, so it was deleted in accordance with policy.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 04:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Yet another sockpuppet ==

You just blocked 12.206.233.75 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User:12.206.233.75], most likely a sockpuppet of [[User:Rgulerdem]] a couple of minutes ago. There's now a new one, continuing where the old one left off: [[216.248.124.90]]. Can you please sprotect the [[Fethullah Gülen]] article after re-adding the <nowiki>{POV}</nowiki> tag? Thanks a lot and sorry for the trouble. [[User:Azate|Azate]] 04:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
: Another admin already saw to it. Case closed. [[User:Azate|Azate]] 06:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian's]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crzrussian|RfA]] ==

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| Hello Blnguyen, and thank you for your support at my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crzrussian|request for adminship]], which ended with an awe-inspiring 86/1/2 result. I plan to do much with my shiny new tools - but I'll start slow and learn the ropes at first. Please deluge me with assignments and requests - I enjoy helping out. ''For Mother Russia!!'' - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 04:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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==autoblock==
Yes; thanks!  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 04:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:And again, thank you for sorting that. I fear it will continue to happen, which is annoying. (I'll keep [[User:Sango123]] and [[User:AmiDaniel]] in mind; thanks again.) My ISP (westnet.com.au) suggests that they would be able to track the vandal if wikipedia used the X-Forwarded-For information sent with the HTTP request. Is there any way to retrieve that from our logs?  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 08:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, it worked. Thanks yet again. Do you know where I could ask about the X-Forwarded-For stuff?  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 07:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
:Doh; didn't see the previous message. Will try there.  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 07:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Mahatma Gandhi page protect ==

Thank you! [[User:Priyanath|ॐ Priyanath]] 05:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: RfA ==

Thanks for [[User_talk:Sam_Vimes#Time_for_a_new_RfA.3F|your nice comment]] :) I've [[User_talk:ALoan#Re:_RfA|asked ALoan to nominate me]] now, so we'll see how it goes if it appears on the RfA page any time soon. [[User:Sam Vimes|Sam Vimes]] 07:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

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<td bgcolor="#f8fcff" align="justify"> Blnguyen, thank '''you''' very much for your support in my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|Request for adminship]], it passed with a final tally of (65/3/3) - which I find both amazing and humbling. I wish I had time to thank everyone personally, but I'm afraid all I can offer is this token of my gratitude. I hope to live up to your expectations/hopes. If at any stage you need to contact me, for help or a request or to point out a mistake in my conduct, please make sure to tell me on my [[User talk:Fir0002|talk page]]. --[[User:Fir0002|Fir0002]] 08:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC) </td>
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==[[User:FairNBalanced]]==
Greetings, as you were the blocking admin I thought that I'd do you the courtesy of pointing you to a [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:FairNBalanced_blocked_for_a_week|WP:ANI report about his block]] I filed. Thanks. [[User:Netscott|Netscott]] 11:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar, Germany portal ==

Thanks a lot! I think I'll have to make an Awards section of my userpage at some time (when I have time). As an experienced Portal editor: do you have suggestions how to improve [[Portal:Germany]]? I'd like to get it Featured some day, but it is probably not good enough yet. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 13:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Lu Sheng-yen]] ==

Hey man! What is your problem? Why are you such a frickin jerk! Did you not get your answer to your question on the discussion page on "lu sheng-yen"? Some neutral person changed the site so everyone agreed and you who dont know the situation well came and changed it! Do you feel better about yourself now that everyone else feels bad that you changed it? Were you not satisfied? Why do you care that much? Why cant you just let us have peace? Stop being such a jerk! If you wanna discuss this like adults then feel free to email me at lukeking3@hotmail.com. {{unsigned|71.227.232.30}}

:Firstly, thankyou for the personal attacks here, as well as the obscene personal attacks to my userpage. There was an answer to the question on his training, but that has nothing to do with the content of the article. Why are you whitewashing the article? If he made these inflammatory comments, then they will be noted, same as aggressive comments made by all other religious leaders. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

== Wengle Puppet Chums ==

Why do you consider Wengle Puppet Chums Nonsense? They're real. I make them, and my friends always laugh at them & their crazy adventures. I was going to add the Series 3 data today, but I found them gone. And I needed to copy & paste stuff from the article for a project. Now I'll have to change my theme completely. Thanks for ruining the Wengle Puppet Chums. Why did you do it?!
Darth Wengle. {{unsigned|Darth Wengle}}

:It was deleted because the {{tl|prod}} expired after 5 days. Also it seemed to violate [[WP:NOT]] as it was declared as your private invention.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==goodwinzz==

Thanks for the unblock![[User:Goodwinzz|Goodwinzz]] 10:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== A friendly note from your nearest spelling nazi ==

It's "''bl'''oc'''k''", not "blcok". Please don't type "blcok" everywhere, it makes me chuckle. :)

Thank you and have a nice day. From your local spelling nazi, [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 01:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I read all the discussion about NSLE and Mailer Diablo leaving. Don't worry, there'll be competent replacements to fill in for them in the near future. (hint, hint.) [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 03:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:P.S. Is that desk in the above photo really yours? I know the stuffed monkey isn't you, but... [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 03:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px darkgreen; background-color: yellow;">[[Image:WikiThanks.png]] Hi {{PAGENAME}}, thank you for voting in my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Terence Ong 2|RFA]] which failed eventually at a result of '''(91/51/8)'''. I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I would like to thank you for voting. --[[User:Terence Ong|Terence Ong]] ([[User talk:Terence Ong|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Terence Ong|contribs]]) 03:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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== [[Narre Warren South, Victoria]]==

Hi there,
I am interested to know why it is that you keep removing the info on gangs in Narre Warren South. There is more to this situation than you realise. There is verifiable information on these gangs and I am trying to get these users to understand about how wikipedia works and how academic referencing in general works. These kids are extremely marginalised and having someone come along and just delete stuff that they have done in an attempt to engage with society is just devastating for them. Instead of just deleting stuff, how about you engage with these users by leaving comments on the talk page? This will help them to learn and to feel included and not continue to feel that they are being rejected. You are asking them to validate their existence. They are saying they exist and you are saying they don't. Think about this for a bit and consider why they should not just flat out laugh at you. Wikipedia works by people communicating with each other, not just deleting things with no comments.

[[User:Morgan Leigh|Morgan Leigh]] 03:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

: The reply is on your page, mostly, as well as [[WP:AWNB]].'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 05:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hi, can you block [[User:OH, IT'S THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH! GOT YO DUMB ASS!]] (lol) I saw it on recent changes. —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks, where should I go next time I see something similar? [[WP:AIV]]? —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks! —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: [[Jai Jai Garvi Gujarat - Narmad]] ==

Hello. Thanks for that tip. I was not sure what I was supposed to say [[Wikipedia:Pages_needing_translation_into_English#Jai_Jai_Garvi_Gujarat_-_Narmad|there]], but do see my reply and tell me if I need to do anything else. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 07:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Sydney Technical High School]] ==

I'm getting rather sick of this - personal attacks and the like. But if you haven't seen it already, this discussion has been brewing some time at [[User_talk:Enochlau#Removal_of_Class_of_1984_external_link]]. Personally, I don't think they'll budge, but I'm hesistant to delete the link again for fear of starting a revert war... [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]] ([[User talk:Enochlau|talk]]) 11:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Today's Star shines on... ==

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To my dear Blnguyen, for the bright light of kindness he keeps on shining every day, his patience, his guidance, his warmth, his support... I'm honored to be your friend. Thank you! [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] </div></div>
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== [[User:PatCheng]] ==

Could you please post some diffs of evidence of PatCheng's behaviour on [[WP:AN]]? It's been challenged on WikiEN-l. [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis Guy you know?]] 15:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for the star!==
Hi Blnguyen, and thanks for the barnstar! Regarding the admin nomination; {{User|King of Hearts}} also recently approached me about it (and a few others have asked about it in the past). I think I'm ready for another go at it. However, I'd prefer that a nomination be delayed until at least this Friday. King of Hearts may already be planning to do it on Friday; I'll let him know that you mentioned it as well. Thanks for the vote of confidence, [[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo]][[User:Ohnoitsjamie|itsJamie]][[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|Talk]] 02:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

==My barnstar==

Thank you very much for my Barnstar, and, as for hiding in the bushes, I'm not really hiding, I'm just elsewhere! Honest! I should start contributing more to certain fields very soon, though, so watch this space! [[User:Bobo192|Bobo]][[User talk:Bobo192|.]] 03:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== Blnguyen, thanks! ==

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| Dear Blnguyen, thanks for your support during my successful [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Samir_(The_Scope)|request for adminship]]. It means so much coming from a veteran contributor and admin like yourself (I'd bring a puffin -- my favourite bird -- but of course, that's been done already! In [[Newfoundland]], Canada, there's a island known as [[Puffin island]] that's rumoured {{fact}} to have the highest puffin density in the world. Images and article to come!) Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 04:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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==Double Standards==
I draw your attention to the article on the [[Melbourne University Football Club]]. Some of the comments used by yourself and people of similar ilk seem to also apply to this article. [[Talk:Melbourne_University_Football_Club]]. I am being provocative on this matter as I perceive there to be double standards on Wikipedia.

What do you think? [[User:Ozdaren|Ozdaren]] 04:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:: I still believe you are not backing up your support of a separate Melbourne Uni Football Club article with any great attention to detail. Your perception of the strength of the article is coloured by considering the VFL of the 1910's to be the same as the AFL of the modern era. The VFL has undergone a metmorphosis from a provincial competition to a national one. At the time of the MUFC involvement it was not the premier league in the country. I have added more detail to my arguament on the discussion page for [[Talk:Melbourne_University_Football_Club]]. [[User:Ozdaren|Ozdaren]] 14:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

==And the admin screwups start already!==
Will subst. Thanks for pointing it out, didn't even notice it. Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 06:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== re: Sam Vimes RFA ==

Thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out and give it further thought. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 06:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== Conservatism ==

You recently blocked me for 24 hours for reverting repeated blanking by ER MD. In the future, I will be careful not to break the 3R rule even in the case of blanking. I thought it was justified in this case under the "all points of view will be represented" clause.

I don't know if you want to involve yourself in the case further, but you suggested I try the talk page. Prior to reverting the blanking, I tried to talk with ER MD for a month without any progress. I offered repeated compromises, he blanked. I did repeated rewrites, he blanked. I repeatedly asked him what he wanted, he blanked.

I used a quote from Roman historian Livy. He called it POV and OR and blanked it. I used a quote from Pulitzer Prize winning historian Will Durant. He called it POV and OR and blanked it. Now, I am back from my 24 hour block, only to find the entire section blanked and protected.

If you would be willing to arbitrate this in an unofficial way, I would appreciate it. You can check the list of contributions I have made to Wikipedia. I have edited more than 100 articles, and I have always been able to work with other Wikipedians to arrive at a reasonable compromise. If you don't want to get involved, I will certainly understand. [[User:Rick Norwood|Rick Norwood]] 06:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm a bit busy with an investigation at the moment, but maybe later if things calm down a bit. Regards, '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 02:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC).

== Alofque ==

You speedied this article although the notability was contested wiht sourcing in the AfD. Isn't the assertion enough to keep it from being speedied? Do you think you could reverse that decision and let the AfD play out? --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] [[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]] 10:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:Well, I'm a bit sorry I didn't notice that external link, but I deleted it because the article itself didn't assert anything, and it appears to have been speedied before by two other admins. Although I'm open to reopening if you tell me what the website claimed, as many bands have been deleted despite claiming "well known" - it would seem normal procedure that it is speedy deleted, unless it asserts to having an album/deal which meets the criteria. Regards, '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 00:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC).
::I posted the translation on the AfD. Essentially, they have toured internationally, meeting basic notability requirements. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] [[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]] 00:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Restored for a re-run.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==Proposal to indefinitely block [[User:FairNBalanced|FairNBalanced]]==
As the pig image was massively ''beyond the pale'' and this editor had also engaged in other hate speech on his user page, I've proposed that he be indefinitely blocked. I think when an editor resorts to that it sours the environment so badly that other editors would not be able to take his comments and edits in good faith after that. I'd welcome your comments on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=58775903&oldid=58775345 this proposal]. Thanks. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 16:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== my admin request ==

i have removed it, and will probably request adminship again sometime this fall. message back as to whether this seems appropriate or not.
[[User:Aaron teh tennisman|Aaron teh tennisman]] 01:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
:Replied on userpage.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
ok thanx for the advice [[User:Aaron teh tennisman|Aaron teh tennisman]] 23:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==RFC==

Hello BInguyen, I just saw [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct&curid=2551069&diff=58875608&oldid=58845420 this] go up. I thought you might like to know so you could open up some communication with RevolverOcelotX and maybe resolve it personally since he/she apparently hasn't and since these are generally a lot more hassle for the community then they're worth. Best wishes and don't forget to [[WP:AGF|AGF]]! :) -- [[User:MarkBuckles|MarkBuckles]] 03:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

== from Sathyan Bhrama ==

Hi Blnguyen...long time no communicate. How r you?

Soon

--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 04:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Pretty good thankyou are yourself?'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC).

== Thanks ==

[[Image:Tournesol.png|left|40px]]Hi Blnguyen, Thanks so much for your support on [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ganeshk|my recent RFA]] and your kind words on my editor review. You are doing a fantastic job with your new admin tools. Looking forward to working with you. - [[User:Ganeshk|Ganeshk]] ([[User talk:Ganeshk|talk]]) 05:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

== vandalisation ==

hello
can I vandalise youre page so your front page would say it had been vandalised 22 times?
[[User:Johnwrw|Johnwrw]] 06:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
: You can if you wish to do so.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==stub==
Can anyone remove a stub tag? My class has been working on [[Hauraki Plains]] and this is now a larger article, although we still have a way to go to smooth out the rough edges.[[User:Goodwinzz|Goodwinzz]] 07:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
:Of course. More detailed answer on your user talk page.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==Ani==
Hi. I saw that i was mentionen in the recent ANI discutions. Do you have any comments regarding my userpage that you would like to share? Peace. --[[User:Striver|Striver]] 14:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
:That photo of the Abu Ghraib with an inflammatory joke.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Mediation Cabal request regarding STHS ==

Yes, I know, you're probably sick of hearing about this, by now. ''But.'' I'm here to let you know that someone has requested that the [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal|Mediation Cabal]] attempt to calm down the situation. If you're not interested, feel free to disregard this message. If you are interested, I'll ask that you try to put any harsh feelings behind you, and remember that you and all of the editors around you are all trying to build the best Wikipedia possible; disagreements in how to do so shouldn't get in the way of our [[WP:AGF|good faith]] towards each other. Wikipedia is not particularly accessible to newcomers, and as beneficial new users are arguably our greatest resource, we would [[WP:DBTN|do well to remember]] that they can have thin skins. Likewise, I've known firsthand how tiresome it can get, reverting vandal after vandal, and I see that you have a history protecting this article in particular.

Now, the link in question does have some issues, for and against it; I find things to sympathize with and things to fault in all parties, here. For the time being, my interest is in calming things down. I would appreciate it if you (along with any other involved editors) would agree to set aside hard feelings in the pursuit of a better Wikipedia -- our reputation on an encyclopedia depends heavily on interactions between editors. All that much better if we can all agree to work side-by-side, and do so in a public, transparent forum for all to see. Let's try to make this a positive experience for everyone.

I am of course aware that you are an administrator. I have nothing but respect for your position, your experience, and your contributions to Wikipedia. Thank you for the time you've taken to read my message, and any subsequent time you might put into this case.

The particular case page can be found '''[[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-16 alumni link|here]]'''. As you're probably aware, the cabal has no official authority, but in this case that may work to everyone's advantage. [[User:Luna Santin|Luna Santin]] 17:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm fine with that. I'm not getting hot under the collar at all - mainly a few people repeatedly making personal attacks on [[User:Enochlau|Enoch]].'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:DVD R W|DVD+R/W]]'s [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/DVD R W|RfA]] ==
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| Thank you for your support in my RfA, which ended with the result of ('''74/0/0'''). If there is anything I can help with feel free to [[User talk:DVD R W|ask]]. Also, if there is anything I am doing wrong, please point that out as well. I look forward to working with you in the future.
Highest regards, [[User:DVD R W| DVD]]+[[User_talk:DVD R W| R/W]] 02:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
|}

== [[Invasion of Panama]] ==

As you protected this article more than a week ago and there now is consensus on the talk page to rename it I would like you to unprotect. [[User:Añoranza|Añoranza]] 13:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:The concensus is to rename it to Invasion of Panama, feel free to see the discussion page about it. Under the page for protection removal the above user mistated this as US Invasion of Panama, which there does not currently exist a concensus on. --[[User:Zer0faults|'''zero faults''']] [[User_talk:Zer0faults#Signature|''|sockpuppets|'']] 13:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:: Well, that's fine, although someone has already done it for me. Also, I only added the template as it was locked by another admin.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you for your support ==

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[[Image:Hebe x franciscana.jpg|70px|right]] Dear '''{{PAGENAME}}''', 
Thank you ''very much'' for your support on [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cuivienen|my recent RfA]]. I am pleased to announce that it passed with a tally of 72/11/1, and I am now an [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrator]]. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the tools, but please let me know if there are any admin jobs I can do to help you, now or in the future. —[[User:Cuivienen|Cuivi]][[User:Cuivienen/Esperanza|é]][[User talk:Cuivienen|nen]] 02:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)</div>

==Thanks==
Thanks for the barnstar. :) --[[User talk:Tree Biting Conspiracy|☆]][[User:Tree Biting Conspiracy|'''TBC''']][[Special:Contributions/Tree_Biting_Conspiracy|☆]] (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 04:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks a ton for the DYK medal - I also had some 12 or so suggestions from the articles strted by me making it to the DYK. I hope this medal would spur me to take a more active role in creating articles. Thanks again!! --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 06:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks==
[[Image:WikiThanks.png|right|200px]]
A big pixelated WikiThanks for the DYK medal! — [[User:Brian0918|BRIAN]][[User_talk:Brian0918|0918]] • 2006-06-19 07:06
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== RfA thanks! ==

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| '''Thanks for voting!''' Hello {{PAGENAME}}, and ''thank you'' so much for voting in my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Pilotguy|RfA]]. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of '''(119/1/3)''', into the [[WP:100]], so I have now been '''cleared for adminship''' and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care.
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--[[User:Pilotguy|'''Pilot|''']][[User_talk:Pilotguy|guy]] 22:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

[[Image:WikiThanks.png|right]]
...for everything, Blnguyen. <tt>:D</tt> Sorry for taking such a long time to respond to your messages, I've been a bit distracted lately. Since you asked, my finals went without a problem, though we're still waiting for the class rankings. <tt>:)</tt> Hope all is well with you. Kind regards, '''[[User:Sango123|Sango]][[User talk:Sango123|123]]''' 00:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

==user:70.152.38.70==
Thanks for blocking 70.152.38.70, I was about to but then I got a phone call. [[User:DVD R W| DVD]]+[[User_talk:DVD R W| R/W]] 04:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Monobook.css ==

Hi whats up? Haven't seen you on Gchat for a couple of days. Anyway seems like you haven't made your monobook.css yet. Just copy the code from my [[User:Srikeit/monobook.css|monobook.css]] into yours & it will customize your view of wikipedia. The effect is quite nice. Try it! Cheers --[[User:Srikeit|Srikeit]] ([[User talk:Srikeit|Talk]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|Email]]) 05:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Cz's vandal ==

We've been calling him the CT vandal. Check [[Talk:New England|this]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFCU#Jayone this] for the fun. [[User:Yanksox|Yanksox]] [[User talk:Yanksox|(talk)]] 05:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
:What mailing list, sir? They're talk about my missteps on mailing lists now? Holy crap... - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 10:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Du Bist]] ==

Just drawing your attention to the VfD listing of part of the Wikiproject on Eurovision. The account used to make this VfD listing appears to have been warned in the past about trolling in various manners, so it might be an entirely frivolous thing in the first place. [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] 08:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'd say were safe anyway. Thanks for the notice.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 08:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

:: You also might want to keep watch on the [[Boys And Girls (song)]] article. Someone rather overzealously deleted it, so I took that as a warning to make it more notable when I re-created it. The fact that she never performed it might make it less than notable, but non-performed songs are just as relevant to the ESC, IMO. [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] 08:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

:: '''Got the source on the protest''' [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] 11:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== My RfA ==

[[Image:Grapes.jpg|55px|right]]

Hello Blnguyen, and thanks for voting in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sam Vimes2|my recent RfA]], which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! [[User:Sam Vimes|Sam Vimes]] 17:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[[Image:Glas leer.JPG|75px|thumb|left|The empty glass]]

Thanks for the orange juice! Here's your glass back (slightly deformed, mind ;)) [[User:Sam Vimes|Sam Vimes]] 22:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

==Project X==
Well done and thanks for your help. Now get back to editing! -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 01:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== 3 things I want to say... ==

# For the "Accusation" section of your user page, it'd be funnier if you can provide the diffs where your accusers said those things. :)
# Thanks for commenting in my RfA.
# This talk page is becoming ''very long''. Please consider [[Wikipedia:How_to_archive_a_talk_page|archiving]].
[[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 01:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Mwuaha ==

With your growing notariety, don't forget the only guy to comment on when you fancified your signature ;) Actually, it was only then that I realized the pun to your user name. Anyway, thanks for taking care of Wezzyf.baby and the sock. You've been an admin for what, a month? and already so much work. Keep up the solid work! [[User:Teke|Te]][[User talk:Teke|ke]] 03:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
*Simulpost! [[User:Teke|Te]][[User talk:Teke|ke]] 03:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm familiar with Nguyen, since it's what, 60~70% of Vietnamese last names? When you changed it to characters I notice that it said "Blingin'" phonetically, which I never got. [[User:Teke|Te]][[User talk:Teke|ke]] 03:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== N.O.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. ==

[[The Notorious B.I.G.|The Notorious B.L.N.]] It kind of rolls off the tongue. Cheers! [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 03:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Quang Tran ==

Thank you for your message.
Note that the pictures : Quang Tran.jpg and Quangtran.jpg should also be deleted. What is the policy for deleting pictures ? Should they be listed at AfD or at an other site ?
[[User:Travelbird|Travelbird]] 03:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

==Meghalaya==
Thanks Blnguyen! I am also able to access it now. But this does happen once in a while and gets resolved on its own in a few minutes. And this happens most often to the Meghalaya article. I have noticed it on atleast three different machines. Next time I get the message, I will take a screen shot and share it with you. May be something needs some fixing. Thanks for your attention. [[User:RMehra|RMehra]] 07:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

==Ok, i will apply again when i have the requirements, but how do i link it?==
Ok next time, thanks for withdrawing me and nnot make me look like an idiot. [[User:Necrowarrio0|Necrowarrio0]]

== Ok, thanks for withdrawing without having me to do it. ==

sorry, i did not read the requirements fully. i will work harder and longer now for it. Thanks for making me not look like a fool. :) [[user:Necrowarrio0]]

== [[User: Stanfordandson]] ==

Following his increasingly bizarre comments on the AfD of [[Du Bist]], I'm about 99% certain that he's in violation of [[WP:POINT]], which is admittedly only a guideline but a pretty strong one. The problem is, of course, that I can't exactly call him on that for fear of making a personal attack. Sorry to ask you to weigh in again, but would you be able to have a look at the situation? [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] 23:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads-up on the artists etc. I'll keep a weather eye out when I think of it. I do ''try'' to remember to categorise the songs, but it tends to be more of a case of typing up a handful and then thinking "Argh. Forgot to put categories beyond the country-stub!" rather than doing it as I go. Still, I hope I'll get better at it! Re [[Brian Kennedy]], though, there were certainly rumours about him being gay prior to the performance. When I hit the Irish entries, I might see what I can scare up on the ol' interweb. [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] 03:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
::Hi Blnguyen, what bothered me more were systemic actions by this user. I've asked him for comment on his talk page. Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 04:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Olympic barnstar ==

Sure, I'd be happy to design one. I'm about to call it quits for tonight though, so I'll see what I can do tomorrow. <tt>:)</tt> Cheers, '''[[User:Sango123|Sango]][[User talk:Sango123|123]]''' 02:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

*Check out [[Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/Archive8#Olympic_Barnstar |Olympic Barnstar]] and [[Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/Archive8#Sportive_Award|Sportive Award]]. --[[User:Evrik|evrik]] 15:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
**Comment left on Sango's page:
::''It seems like it would be a good idea, but twice (mine included) the idea was shot down. Mainly, I think this was because of the fact that the Olympic rings are a fair use image. If someone could think of a better way to create an Olympic barnstar without the rings, that'd be great and would make a wonderful proposal. For now, though, I'm not so sure that it'd work. Please, though, give it a try if at all possible! [[User:JP06035|→'''&ensp;JARED]]'''&ensp;[[User_talk:JP06035|(t)]]&ensp; 17:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)''
:::''Yes, I am aware of the previous discussions and was thinking of using an [[Olympic Flame]] instead of the rings. The Running Man Barnstar already covers work in sports, but this could probably serve as an award for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports Olympics|WikiProject Sports Olympics]].'' '''[[User:Sango123|Sango]][[User talk:Sango123|123]]''' 18:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

==Edits by 217.194.34.116==
Hi Blnguyen! Thank you very much for your support and attention on this. Your help is much appreciated. The user obviously seems to harbour a grudge against the [[Hindi]] language. [[User:RMehra|RMehra]] 06:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

==71.231.13.2==
I guess I'm being lenient! -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 06:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

==Inappropriate block==
It seems inappropriate to block [[User:A Sister and a Lover]] so hastily. The user didn't even make any real edits; no actual changes register in the page diffs. The user name seems like it could be controversial, but you shouldn't just block somebody without any warning like that. Give them a warning, suggest a new user name, mention the delicate sensitivities of other users, etc. No need for a block. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 06:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

:Well, I take the edit summaries as a wind-up. You can unblock if you want.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 06:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Quang Tran ==

<strike>Hi, recently an AfD was completed for [[Quang Tran]] but it has been recreated with the same information. Not sure what an editor is supposed to do in this case so I thought I would ask you since you made the delete on the AfD. Thanks. [[User:DrunkenSmurf|DrunkenSmurf]] 19:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)</strike>
: Forget it, an admin deleted the new copy. [[User:DrunkenSmurf|DrunkenSmurf]] 19:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Not sure about deletion ==

Blnguyen-

My entry was deleted by you and I'm inquiring as to further explination of why. I am genuine and forthright with my entry and not sure why it warrents deletion. The reason states that it is a random group of people, which is true (even though I'm not sure why random). Why does a group of people not warrent an entry? I've updated with more references that I believe make it a more contributing entry to Wiki. Any insights would be helpful. Thanks.
{{unsigned|Nordexpress}}

== Thanks ==
For both your vote of support in my RfA and your kind words on my talk page just now! I wanted to close the rest of June 17 AfDs but gotta go AFK now. I'll give you and other sysops the honours.

And yes, now I understand your pain at being turned into a delete processor. This is more of a janitor's job than a sysop's job. :) [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 02:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== Please don't delete my entry... ==

My entry documenting HCLL software by Mediware does not violate any copyright laws...
Questions? Please email me at tyler.snook@gmail.com

== Newspapers, eh? ==

Then here you go, an entry into the Upholder of the Wiki Order There is no cabal: [[Image:Upholder order.gif|The '''Upholder of Wiki''' is awarded to exceptional and distinguished contributors on wikipedia.]]
{{unsigned|Teke}}

:*I did some digging to find it, I knew I'd seen it a couple times. It's appropriate, and my pleasure. Happy editing to you! [[User:Teke|Te]][[User talk:Teke|ke]] 04:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

==Barnstar==
Thanks! At first I didn't notice you awarded me the award. It was a nice surprise, and maybe I needed it after days and days spent in checking the style of willingful but not-so-styilish users (it seems that a few people read encyclopedias in this world...). Bye and good work. --[[User:Attilios|Attilios]] 11:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== A short Esperanzial update ==

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on [[WT:ESP|the ''Esperanza'' talk page]] as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AEsperanza%2FCharter&diff=59977509&oldid=52572171 See what happened]. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace [[User:JoanneB|JoanneB]] and [[User:Pschemp|Pschemp]] and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on [[2006-07-02]] and last until [[2006-07-09]]. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before [[2006-07-02]]. For more details, see [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections]].

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —[[user:Celestianpower|Cel]][[User:Celestianpower/Esperanza|es]][[User:Celestianpower|tianpower]] [[user talk:Celestianpower|háblame]] 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the birthday wishes, Blnguyen. It was very much appreciated! :)
[[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 05:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Chen Yonglin]] ==

Hi Blnguyen, just wanted to let you know that I unprotected [[Chen Yonglin]] per request at [[WP:RFPP]]. I've got a close eye on it though. Cheers mate -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 06:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Mao: The Unknown Story]] ==

Hi. I'm not sure that the page is ready to be unlocked completely - no one seems to be talking on the talk page. However I was wondering if I could propose adding a little content. If you would be willing could you please insert something and then lock it again? It's just a comment by one of the academics that is already listed at the bottom, but I realised his comments were never added to the "debate" section, which is a bit of an oversight. Can you tell me what you think? If I ask for it to be unlocked the whole edit war will start up again, I'm quite sure of that. [[User:John Smith's|John Smith's]] 14:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== Vandal Sockpuppet ==

I notice that you reverted vandalism by [[user:Janx Jrotum]] of the [[Windham County, Vermont]] article. Please be advised, this person is now using the name [[user:Hirenon Krubi]]. This individual has revandalized that page as well as a number of other Vermont related articles. I'm going through and reverting them, and have placed a notice on his or her talk page, but given that this individual has already been blocked under the previous name, he or she will probably be back. Thanks, for any asistance you can provide.[[User:Cbvt|Cbvt]] 23:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== SAthyan BHrama ==

Hi, can u give me ur email address? please reply..would like to be ur friend, and thanks for the various tips..

--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 07:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Hatim

2006-06-19T04:57:22Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Hindi T.V drama about a prince. It has elements of fantasy and uses cheap graphic techniques. Currently aired on Disney T.V, which is new in India.

{{Stub}}

Hatim

2006-06-19T04:57:04Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

== Hatim ==

Hindi T.V drama about a prince. It has elements of fantasy and uses cheap graphic techniques. Currently aired on Disney T.V, which is new in India.

{{Stub}}

Islam in India

2006-06-17T17:27:12Z

Sathyan Bhrama: /* See also */

{{Current India COTW}}
{{cleanup-date|November 2005}}
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[[Islam]] is the second-largest religion in [[India]] (after [[Hinduism]] - 80.5%), where [[Muslims]] number around 137 million (13.4%)<ref>{{
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| url=http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html
}}</ref>
. India has the third-largest population of Muslims in the world after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]].

Since its introduction to India, Islam has made religious, artistic, philosophical, culture, social and political contributions to Indian history, heritage and life. It has also been involved in many social, religious and political conflicts.

==Arrival of Islam==
Contrary to general belief, Islam came to India long before [[Muslim invasions of India]]. Islamic influence first came to be felt in the early 7th century with the advent of Arab traders.Trade relations between Arabia and Indian sub-continent are very ancient. Arab traders used visit [[Malabar]] region to trade which was a link between the ports of South and South East Asia, even before Islam had been established in Arabia. According to Historians Elliot and Dowson in their book [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], the first ship bearing Muslim travelers was seen on the Indian coast as early as [[630]] AD. H.G. Rawlinson, In his book Ancient and Medieval History of India<ref>ISBN 8186050795 Ancient and Medieval History of India]</ref> claims the first Arab Muslims settled on the Indian coast in the last part of the 7th century AD. This fact is corroborated, by J. Sturrock in his South Kanara and Madras Districts Manuals<ref>Sturrock, J.,South Canara and Madras District Manual (2 vols., Madras, 1894-1895)</ref>, and also by Haridas Bhattacharya in cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV.<ref>ISBN 8185843058 Cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV</ref>It was with the advent of Islam that the Arabs became a prominent cultural race in the world. The Arab merchants and traders became the carriers of the new religion and they propagated it wherever they went<ref>http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm -Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>. Arab Muslim traders attracted the people to Islam by their behavior in the contact, honesty in trade, discipline in dealings and peaceful religious and pious life A number of Indians living in the coastal areas of [[Kerala]] were moved by the principles of Islam and converted.

King [[Cheraman Perumal]] is said to be the first convert to Islam in India, Legend has it that a group of [[Muhammad]]’s [[Sahaba|companions]] visited [[Kodangallur]], Cheraman Perumal Bhaskara Ravi Varma, then the [[Chera]] ruler, had witnessed a miraculous happening, the sudden splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of Muhammad, and learning on inquiry that this was a symbol of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, Soon after, Cheruman Perumal travelled to Makkah, embraced Islam, and accepted the name Thajudeen. On his way back to India he died in [[Salala]] in the [[Sultanate of Oman]], On his deathbed he is said to have authorized some of his Arab companions to go back to his kingdom to spread Islam. Accordingly, a group of Arabs led by [[Malik Bin Deenar]] and Malik bin Habib arrived in north Kerala.<ref>[http://www.iosworld.org/interview_cheramul.htm HINDU PATRON OF MUSLIM HERITAGE SITE]</ref> <ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref>[http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/23/stories/2005072306490500.htm. Hindu Daily- Kalam to visit oldest mosque in sub-continent]</ref> The historical veracity of the Cheraman’s alleged conversion to Islam is disputable, As none of noted historians speaks of the story of the of recognized historians nor corroborated by any contemporary record or evidence. This story appeared in the book ''Keralolpathi'' Origin of kerala, origianaly in palm leaves, first published by [[Hermann Gundert]] in [[1843]]. The reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions.<ref> [..reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions http://naturemagics.com/kerala_history/kerala_history.html]</ref>

The first Indian mosque was built in during [[629]] A.D, at the behest of [[Cheraman Perumal]], during the life time of [[Muhammad]](c. [[571]] – [[632]])in [[Kodungallur]] by [[Malik Bin Deenar]].it is belived to be World’s second oldest mosque.The original Hindu architectural scheme of the mosque has been retained intact to a great extent, though essential additions have been made over the years.</ref>[http://www.islamicvoice.com/june.2004/miscellany.htm#cjm -Cheraman Juma Masjid A Secular Heritage]</ref><ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref> [http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/travelogue/mosque.html -A mosque from a Hindu king]</ref>

In Malabar the [[Mappilas]] may be the first community to come to the fold of Islam because they were more closely connected with the Arabs than others. Intensive missionary activities went on the coast and a number of natives also embraced Islam. These new converts were now added to the pile of the [[Mappila]] community. Thus among the Mapilas, we find, both the descendants of the Arabs through local women and the converts from among the local people <ref>[http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm - Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>

In the 8th century, the province of Sindh was conquered by Syrian Arabs led by [[Muhammad bin Qasim]]. Sindh became the easternmost province of the [[Umayyad Caliphate]].
In the first half of the 10th century a [[Mahmud of Ghazni]] added the [[Punjab region|Punjab]] to the [[Ghaznavid Empire]] and conducted several raids deeper into mordern day [[India]]. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by the [[Muhammad of Ghor]]. This eventually led to the formation of the [[Delhi Sultanate]].

Historian [[Will Durant]] wrote in ''The Story of Civilization'' (1972) that the Muslim conquest of India was "probably the bloodiest story in history." The number of people killed is estimated based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations. K.S. Lal estimated in his book ''The Growth of Muslim Population in India'' that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million.

Jawahar Lal Nehru, India's first prime minister, wrote in his book ''Discovery of India'', 1946 page 218 about Muslim's influence on India,"The impact of the invaders from the north-west and of Islam on India had been considerable. It had pointed out and shone up the abuses that had crept into Hindu society - the petrification of caste, untouchability, exclusiveness carried to fantastic lengths."
See Also:

* [[Rajputs and invasions of India]].
* [[Islamic conquest of the Indian subcontinent]].

==Sufism and spread of Islam==
[[Sufi]]s (Islamic saints) played an important role in the spread of Islam in India. They were very successful in spreading Islam, as many aspects of Sufi belief systems and practices had their parallels in Indian philosophical literature, in particular nonviolence and monoism. Sufis' unorthodox approach towards Islam made it easier for Hindus to practice. Hazrat [[Khawaja Muin-ud-din Chisti]], [[Nizam-ud-din Auliya]], [[Shah Jalal]], [[Amir Khusro]] trained Sufi groups for the propagation of Islam in different parts of India. Once the Islamic Empire was established in India, Sufis invariably provided a touch of colour and beauty to what might have otherwise been rather cold and stark reigns. The Sufi movement also attracted followers from the artisan and [[Dalit (outcaste)|Untouchable]] communities; they played a crucial role in bridging the distance between Islam and the indigenous traditions. Even today Sufi tombs are visited by Hindus and Muslims alike.

==Role of Muslims in India's freedom movement==
The contribution of Muslim revolutionaries, poets and writers is immense in India's struggle against the British. Maulana [[Abul Kalam Azad]], [[Hakim Ajmal Khan]] and [[Rafi Ahmed Qidwai]] are a few of Muslims who devoted their life for this purpose. [[Muhammad Ashfaq Ullah Khan]] of [[Shahjehanpur]] who conspired and looted the British treasury at [[Kakori]] ([[Lucknow]]) to cripple the administration and who, when asked for his last will, before execution, desired: ''No desire is left except one that some one may put a little soil of my motherland in my winding sheet''. [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]] (popular as Frontier Gandhi), a great nationalist who spent 45 of his 95 years of life in jail for the freedom of India; [[Barakatullah]] of [[Bhopal]], one of the founders of the ''[[Ghadar party]]'' which created a network of anti-British organizations and who died penniless in Germany in l927; [[Syed Rahmat Shah]] of the ''Ghadar party'' who worked as an underground revolutionary in France and was hanged for his part in the unsuccessful Ghadar (mutiny)uprising in 1915; [[Ali Ahmad Siddiqui]] of [[Faizabad]] (UP) who planned the [[Indian Mutiny]] in [[Malaya]] and [[Burma]] along with [[Syed Mujtaba Hussain]] of [[Jaunpur]] and who was hanged In 1917; [[Vakkom Abdul Khadar]] of [[Kerala]] who participated in "[[Quit India]]" struggle in 1942 was hanged ; [[Umar Subhani]], an industrialist and a millionaire of Bombay who provided Gandhi with congress expenses and who ultimately gave his life for the cause of independence. Among Muslim women, [[Hazrat Mahal]], [[Asghari Begum]], Bi Amma contributed heavily in the struggle of freedom from Britishers.

There was also a major uprising by Kerala Muslims in the form of the [[Moplah Rebellion]].

The following is a list of some famous Muslims who fought for a unified India (as opposed to Pakistan): [[Maulana Azad]], [[Hakeem Ajmal Khan]], [[Tipu Sultan]], [[Hyder Ali]], [[Maulana Shaukat Ali]], [[Hasrat Mohani]], [[Professor Barkatullah]], [[Dr. Zakir Husain]] , [[Saifuddin Kichlu]], Allama [[Shibli Nomani]], [[Vakkom Abdul Khadir]], Dr. [[Manzoor Abdul Wahab]], ,[[Bahadur Shah Zafar]], [[Hakeem Nusrat Husain]], [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]], [[Samad Achakzai]], [[Maulana Mohammad Ali]], Colonel Shahnawaz, Dr. M.A.Ansari, [[Rafi Ahmad Kidwai]], Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Viqarul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, VM Ubaidullah, SR Rahim, [[Badruddin Tyabjee]], and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

==Law and politics==

Muslims in India are Governed by The Muslim [[Personal Law]] ([[Shariat]]) Application Act, 1937.<ref> [http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/muslimperact/muslimpersonalact.htm The Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act, 1937]</ref>. it directs the application of Muslim Personal Law to Muslims in a number of different areas mainly related to family law which includes marriage, Mahr(Dower), [[Divorce]], Maintenance, Gifts, [[Wakf]], Wills and Inheritance.<ref> [http://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/legal/india.htm Article discussing Muslim personal law in India]</ref> The courts generally apply the [[Hanafi]] [[Sunni]] law, with exceptions made only for those areas where [[Shia]] law differed substantially from Sunni practice.

Although [[Indian constitution]] provided equal rights to all citizens irrespective of their religion and Article 44 recommended [[Uniform civil code]] for all. The attempts by successive political leadership in the country to integrate the Indian society under common civil code was was strongly resisted and is still viewed by Indian Muslims as an attempt to dilute the cultural identity of the minority group of the country. [[All India Muslim Personal Law Board]] was established for the protection and continued applicability of “Muslim Personal Law” i.e. Shariat Application Act in India.

==Muslims in Modern India==

Muslims in India post-[[Independence]] have had a mixed and sometimes turbulent history. The aftermath of the [[Partition of India]] in 1947 saw large scale [[sectarian]] strife and bloodshed throughout the nation. During partition, large populations of Muslims, including many who were rich and educated, left for Pakistan. Across the border, these immigrants or '[[Muhajirs]]' have ever since played an important role in the development of Pakistan. The majority of Muslims in India are economically backward; however, like in all minorities, there are Muslims who have played a special role in all fields of the country's advancement. Still, Muslims have sometimes been the victims of [[religious fundamentalism]]. At the same time, Muslim fundamentalist groups also hold prominence in states like [[Jammu and Kashmir]]. There is an increasingly heated debate on whether what [[secularists]] in India classify as religious fundamentalism is only limited to the Hindu side in an attempt to protect the Muslim minority. The recent issue regarding the [[Ayodhya]] [[temple]] site shows that these problems, products of religious nationalism some 70 years ago, are hardly likely to go away in the near future.

The [[Students Islamic Movement of India]] (SIMI) was formed in [[Aligarh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]] state, in April 1977. The stated mission of SIMI is the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land and is widely believed to be against [[secularism]], [[democracy]] and [[nationalism]], keystones of the [[India]]n [[Constitution of India|Constitution]] and believes that [[Osama bin Laden]] is an outstanding example of a true [[Mujahid]]. Indian government alleges that SIMI is associated with Pakistan's [[ISI]] and also with numerous anti-Indian groups. This organisation was outlawed by the Indian Government in 2002. [http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm][http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main1.htm]

Prominent Indian Muslims include:
* [[Khwaja Abdul Hamid]], who in 1935 founded one of the first Indian-owned [[industries]] in the [[colonial]] era, [[CIPLA]] (The Chemical, Industrial & Pharmaceutical Laboratories). In 1939, when [[Mahatma Gandhi]] visited CIPLA he wrote that he was "delighted to visit this Indian enterprise". CIPLA today is a [[pharmaceutical]] company with a global presence, it's products being sold in over 150 countries worldwide.

* There have been three Muslim presidents of India, Dr. [[Zakir Hussain (politician)|Zakir Hussain]], Dr [[Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed]] and the current president, Dr. [[A.P.J. Abdul Kalam]].

* [[Salim Ali (ornithologist)|Salim Ali]] (November 12, 1896 - July 27, 1987) is one of India's best known ornithologist and naturalist. Known as the "Birdman of India", Salim Ali was among the first Indians to conduct systematic bird surveys in India and his books have contributed enormously to understanding and protecting India's birds and also other wildlife.

* [[Azim Premji]], owner of [[Wipro Ltd.]] is the richest man in India. In 2005, Yusuf Hameed of CIPLA and Azim Premji received one of India's highest civilian awards, the [[Padma Bhushan]] for his contributions to the country.

Muslims are also playing pivotal roles in the advertising industry, film industry ([[Bollywood]]), modern art, academics, theatre and sports. Some large industries like [[Wipro]] Ltd., [[Wockhardt]], [[Himalaya health care]], [[Hamdard Laboratories]] and [[Mirza Tanners]] are owned by Muslims.

''see: [[List of notable muslims of independent India]]''

Although they have a turbulent history, Muslims in India now do not face any problems from any other religious sect, in developed areas. They have be included in the [[Reservation]] Policy of the Government of India, which is an [[affirmative action]] policy. Generally in cities in mordern India, everybody celebrates every other religious ceremony.

==Muslim Institutes==
There are several well established Muslim institutes in India. Here is a list of reputed institutes established by Muslims.
*'''Modern College and University''': [[Aligarh Muslim University]], [[Jamia Millia Islamia]], [[Hamdard University (India))|Hamdard University]], [[Al Ameen College]] [[Bangalore]], [[Al Kabir college]] [[Mysore]], .
*'''Traditional Islamic University''': [[Darul Uloom Deoband]], [[Darul-uloom Nadwatul Ulama]], Darul-Ulum Manzar Islam (Bareli)
*'''Other religious institutions''': [[Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind]]
*'''Media''': [http://www.milligazette.com Milli Gazette], [http://www.siasat.com/english/ Siasat], [http://www.radianceweekly.com/default.asp Radiance Weekly]

==Population Statistics==
Islam is [[India]]'s largest minority religion, with [[Muslim]]s officially constituting 13.4 % of the country's population, or 137 million people as of [[2001]][[census]]. However, unofficial estimates show a far higher figure supposedly discounted in censuses. For instance, in an interview with a well circulated newspaper of India ''The Hindu'' Justice K.M. Yusuf, a retired Judge from Calcutta High Court and Chairman of ''West Bengal Minority Commission'', says that the real percentage of Muslims in India is atleast 20%. [http://www.islamicpopulation.com/india_muslim.html]. As per Syed Shahabuddin, a diplomat-turned-politician, a Muslim scholar and one of the members in the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, both Hindu and Muslim ‘spokesmen’, speaking for their respective communities ''amplify and exaggerate'' the Muslim population in India, the first, to convince their followers about the rising ‘Islamic menace’, a threat to the country and at least to its Hindu character, the second, to raise the morale of a politically deprived, educationally backward, economically poor and socially vilified, frustrated community.[http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15092001/29.htm]

The largest concentrations--about 47% of all Muslims in India--live in the 3 states of [[Bihar]] (13.7 million) (16.5%), [[West Bengal]] (20.2 million) (25%), and [[Uttar Pradesh]] (30.7 million) (18.5%), according to the 2001 census. Muslims represent a majority of the local population only in [[Jammu and Kashmir]] (67 % in [[2001]]) and [[Lakshadweep]] (95 %). High concentrations of Muslims are found in the eastern states of [[Assam]] (31 %) and [[West Bengal]] (25 %), and in the southern state of [[Kerala]] (25 %) and [[Karnataka]] (12.2%). Muslims are generally more educated, urban, integrated and prosperous in the Western and Southern states of India than in the Northern and Eastern ones. India has the third largest [[Muslim]] population (after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]]) and also the third largest [[Shia]] Muslim population (after Pakistan and [[Iran]]) in the world.

The analysis on [[Religion]] Data, among the six major religious communities, the decadal growth of the Muslims was the highest (36.0%) at the [[2001]] Census. This statistics suggested while the growth rate for Hindus has fallen between [[1991]] and [[2001]] compared with [[1981]] and [[1991]], Muslims have actually grown faster in the last decade, this led Indian [[Media]]<ref>[http://www.indiatogether.org/2004/oct/med-census.htm The Muslim growth rate and the media]</ref> and different Muslim bashing Pro-[[Hindutva]] parties raising an alarm at the growing number of Muslims and express concern about the [[demographic imbalance]]<ref>[http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2120/stories/20041008006101600.htm - The population bogey Frontline Coverstory Volume 21 - Issue 20, Sept. 25 - Oct. 08, 2004]</ref>.

The truth was that Muslims have seen a significant fall in population growth rates. The false impression about a rising Muslim growth rate is created because the [[1991]] census did not include [[Jammu & Kashmir]],the only Muslim majority state and strife-torn [[Assam]], while the [[2001]] census does include [[Jammu & Kashmir]]. Adjusted for this and the Muslim growth rate plunged from 36 per cent to 29.3 per cent.

== The History of Islam in India ==
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The first Islamic presence in India came in the 8th century CE, when Syrian Arabs led by Muhammad Qasim conquered the region of Sindh and made it an eastern province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
* [[Islamic invasion of India]]
* [[Islamic Empires in India]]
* [[Mughal era]]

==Islamic Traditions in South Asia==
[[Image:Jama Masjid is the largest mosque in India. Delhi, India..jpg|thumb|250px|The Jama Masjid, [[Delhi]] is one of the largest mosques in the world.]]
A significant aspect of Indian Islam is the importance of shrines attached to the memory of great [[Sufi]] saints. [[Sufism]] is a mystical path ([[tarika]]) as distinct from the legalistic path of the [[sharia]]. A Sufi attains a direct vision of oneness with God, often on the edges of orthodox behavior, and can thus become a Pir (living saint) who may take on disciples ([murid]s) and set up a spiritual lineage that can last for generations. Orders of Sufis became important in India during the thirteenth century following the ministry of [[Moinuddin Chishti]] ([[1142]]-[[1236]]), who settled in [[Ajmer]], [[Rajasthan]], and attracted large numbers of converts to Islam because of his holiness. His [[Chishtiyya]] order went on to become the most influential Sufi lineage in India, although other orders from [[Central Asia]] and [[Southwest Asia]] also reached to India and played a major role in the spread of Islam. Many Sufis were well known for weaving music, dance, intoxicants, and local folktales into their songs and lectures. In this way, they created a large literature in [[regional language]]s that embedded Islamic culture deeply into older South Asian traditions.

In the case of many great teachers, the memory of their holiness has been so intense that they are still viewed as active intercessors with God, and their tombs have become the site of rites and prayers by disciples and lay people alike. Tales of miraculous deeds associated with the tombs of great saints have attracted large numbers of pilgrims attempting to gain cures for physical maladies or solutions to personal problems. The tomb of the Pir thus becomes a dargah (gateway) to God and the focus for a wide range of rituals, such as daily washing and decoration by professional attendants, touching or kissing the tomb or contact with the water that has washed it, hanging petitions on the walls of the shrine surrounding the tomb, and giving money.

The descendants of the original pir are sometimes seen as inheritors of his spiritual energy and as pirs in their own right. They may dispense amulets sanctified by contact with them or with the tomb. The annual celebration of the Pir's death is a major event at important shrines, attracting hundreds of thousands of devotees for celebrations that may last for days. Free communal kitchens and distribution of sweets are also big attractions of these festivals, at which Muslim fakirs, or wandering ascetics, sometimes appear and where public demonstrations of self-mortification, such as miraculous piercing of the body and spiritual possession of devotees, sometimes occur. Every region of India can boast of at least one major Sufi shrine that attracts expressive devotion, which remains important, especially for Muslim women.

The leadership of the Muslim community has pursued various directions in the evolution of Indian Islam during the [[twentieth century]]. The most conservative wing has typically rested on the education system provided by the hundreds of religious training institutes ([[madrasa]]) throughout the country, which have tended to stress the study of the [[Qur'an]] and Islamic texts in [[Arabic language|Arabic]] and [[Persian language|Persian]] but little else. Several national movements have emerged from this sector of the Muslim community. The [[Jamaati Islami]] (Islamic Party), founded in [[1941]], advocates the establishment of an overtly Islamic government through peaceful, democratic, and non-missionary activities. The Indian branch of the party had about 3,000 active members and 40,000 sympathizers in the mid-[[1980s]]. The [[Tablighi Jamaat]] (Outreach Society) became active after the [[1940s]] as a movement, primarily among the ulema (religious leaders), stressing personal renewal, prayer, a missionary and cooperative spirit, and attention to orthodoxy. It has been highly critical of the kind of activities that occur in and around Sufi shrines and remains a minor if respected force in the training of the ulema. Conversely, other ulema have upheld the legitimacy of mass religion, including exaltation of pirs and the memory of the [[Muhammad|Prophet]]. A powerful secularising drive led by [[Syed Ahmad Khan]] resulted in the foundation of [[Aligarh Muslim University]] ([[1875]] as the [[Muhammadan Anglo-Oriental College]]) -- with a broader, more modern curriculum -- and other major Muslim universities. This educational drive has remained the most dominant force in guiding the Muslim community.

== Post - Independence ==
The Muslims of India have generally been treated well although there has been many [[anti-Muslim]] riots.
*[http://www.themodernreligion.com/assault/india-ext.html Muslims in India]
*[http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/Summary%20Muslims.pdf Muslims in India Census 2001]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.info IndianMuslims.info Informational website on Indian Muslims]
*[http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mriexin/sasislam.html South Asian Islam Links]
*[http://www.islamawareness.net/Asia/India/ Islam, Muslim and Politics in India ]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.org IndianMuslimsOrg One-start portal for IndianMuslims]

== See also ==
* [[Mappila]] (Muslim community from Kerala)''
* [[Bombay(film)]] a film by Mani Rathnam, which depicts a real face of Muslim Hindu relations in India's rural areas

==Notes and References==
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== Literature ==
*Elliot and Dowson: [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], New Delhi reprint, 1990.
*Majumdar, R. C. (ed.), The History and Culture of the Indian People, Volume VI, The Delhi Sultanate, Bombay, 1960; Volume VII, The Mughal Empire, Bombay, 1973.
*M K A Siddiqui (ed.), ''Marginal Muslim Communities In India'', Institute of Objective Studies, New Delhi (2004) ([http://www.iosworld.org/life_on_the_margins.htm review])

==See also==
* [[Islam by country]],
* [[Indian Muslim nationalism]]
* [[Islam in Pakistan]]
* [[Islam in Bangladesh]]

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[[Islam]] is the second-largest religion in [[India]] (after [[Hinduism]] - 80.5%), where [[Muslims]] number around 137 million (13.4%)<ref>{{
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. India has the third-largest population of Muslims in the world after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]].

Since its introduction to India, Islam has made religious, artistic, philosophical, culture, social and political contributions to Indian history, heritage and life. It has also been involved in many social, religious and political conflicts.

==Arrival of Islam==
Contrary to general belief, Islam came to India long before [[Muslim invasions of India]]. Islamic influence first came to be felt in the early 7th century with the advent of Arab traders.Trade relations between Arabia and Indian sub-continent are very ancient. Arab traders used visit [[Malabar]] region to trade which was a link between the ports of South and South East Asia, even before Islam had been established in Arabia. According to Historians Elliot and Dowson in their book [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], the first ship bearing Muslim travelers was seen on the Indian coast as early as [[630]] AD. H.G. Rawlinson, In his book Ancient and Medieval History of India<ref>ISBN 8186050795 Ancient and Medieval History of India]</ref> claims the first Arab Muslims settled on the Indian coast in the last part of the 7th century AD. This fact is corroborated, by J. Sturrock in his South Kanara and Madras Districts Manuals<ref>Sturrock, J.,South Canara and Madras District Manual (2 vols., Madras, 1894-1895)</ref>, and also by Haridas Bhattacharya in cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV.<ref>ISBN 8185843058 Cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV</ref>It was with the advent of Islam that the Arabs became a prominent cultural race in the world. The Arab merchants and traders became the carriers of the new religion and they propagated it wherever they went<ref>http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm -Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>. Arab Muslim traders attracted the people to Islam by their behavior in the contact, honesty in trade, discipline in dealings and peaceful religious and pious life A number of Indians living in the coastal areas of [[Kerala]] were moved by the principles of Islam and converted.

King [[Cheraman Perumal]] is said to be the first convert to Islam in India, Legend has it that a group of [[Muhammad]]’s [[Sahaba|companions]] visited [[Kodangallur]], Cheraman Perumal Bhaskara Ravi Varma, then the [[Chera]] ruler, had witnessed a miraculous happening, the sudden splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of Muhammad, and learning on inquiry that this was a symbol of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, Soon after, Cheruman Perumal travelled to Makkah, embraced Islam, and accepted the name Thajudeen. On his way back to India he died in [[Salala]] in the [[Sultanate of Oman]], On his deathbed he is said to have authorized some of his Arab companions to go back to his kingdom to spread Islam. Accordingly, a group of Arabs led by [[Malik Bin Deenar]] and Malik bin Habib arrived in north Kerala.<ref>[http://www.iosworld.org/interview_cheramul.htm HINDU PATRON OF MUSLIM HERITAGE SITE]</ref> <ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref>[http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/23/stories/2005072306490500.htm. Hindu Daily- Kalam to visit oldest mosque in sub-continent]</ref> The historical veracity of the Cheraman’s alleged conversion to Islam is disputable, As none of noted historians speaks of the story of the of recognized historians nor corroborated by any contemporary record or evidence. This story appeared in the book ''Keralolpathi'' Origin of kerala, origianaly in palm leaves, first published by [[Hermann Gundert]] in [[1843]]. The reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions.<ref> [..reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions http://naturemagics.com/kerala_history/kerala_history.html]</ref>

The first Indian mosque was built in during [[629]] A.D, at the behest of [[Cheraman Perumal]], during the life time of [[Muhammad]](c. [[571]] – [[632]])in [[Kodungallur]] by [[Malik Bin Deenar]].it is belived to be World’s second oldest mosque.The original Hindu architectural scheme of the mosque has been retained intact to a great extent, though essential additions have been made over the years.</ref>[http://www.islamicvoice.com/june.2004/miscellany.htm#cjm -Cheraman Juma Masjid A Secular Heritage]</ref><ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref> [http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/travelogue/mosque.html -A mosque from a Hindu king]</ref>

In Malabar the [[Mappilas]] may be the first community to come to the fold of Islam because they were more closely connected with the Arabs than others. Intensive missionary activities went on the coast and a number of natives also embraced Islam. These new converts were now added to the pile of the [[Mappila]] community. Thus among the Mapilas, we find, both the descendants of the Arabs through local women and the converts from among the local people <ref>[http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm - Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>

In the 8th century, the province of Sindh was conquered by Syrian Arabs led by [[Muhammad bin Qasim]]. Sindh became the easternmost province of the [[Umayyad Caliphate]].
In the first half of the 10th century a [[Mahmud of Ghazni]] added the [[Punjab region|Punjab]] to the [[Ghaznavid Empire]] and conducted several raids deeper into mordern day [[India]]. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by the [[Muhammad of Ghor]]. This eventually led to the formation of the [[Delhi Sultanate]].

Historian [[Will Durant]] wrote in ''The Story of Civilization'' (1972) that the Muslim conquest of India was "probably the bloodiest story in history." The number of people killed is estimated based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations. K.S. Lal estimated in his book ''The Growth of Muslim Population in India'' that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million.

Jawahar Lal Nehru, India's first prime minister, wrote in his book ''Discovery of India'', 1946 page 218 about Muslim's influence on India,"The impact of the invaders from the north-west and of Islam on India had been considerable. It had pointed out and shone up the abuses that had crept into Hindu society - the petrification of caste, untouchability, exclusiveness carried to fantastic lengths."
See Also:

* [[Rajputs and invasions of India]].
* [[Islamic conquest of the Indian subcontinent]].

==Sufism and spread of Islam==
[[Sufi]]s (Islamic saints) played an important role in the spread of Islam in India. They were very successful in spreading Islam, as many aspects of Sufi belief systems and practices had their parallels in Indian philosophical literature, in particular nonviolence and monoism. Sufis' unorthodox approach towards Islam made it easier for Hindus to practice. Hazrat [[Khawaja Muin-ud-din Chisti]], [[Nizam-ud-din Auliya]], [[Shah Jalal]], [[Amir Khusro]] trained Sufi groups for the propagation of Islam in different parts of India. Once the Islamic Empire was established in India, Sufis invariably provided a touch of colour and beauty to what might have otherwise been rather cold and stark reigns. The Sufi movement also attracted followers from the artisan and [[Dalit (outcaste)|Untouchable]] communities; they played a crucial role in bridging the distance between Islam and the indigenous traditions. Even today Sufi tombs are visited by Hindus and Muslims alike.

==Role of Muslims in India's freedom movement==
The contribution of Muslim revolutionaries, poets and writers is immense in India's struggle against the British. Maulana [[Abul Kalam Azad]], [[Hakim Ajmal Khan]] and [[Rafi Ahmed Qidwai]] are a few of Muslims who devoted their life for this purpose. [[Muhammad Ashfaq Ullah Khan]] of [[Shahjehanpur]] who conspired and looted the British treasury at [[Kakori]] ([[Lucknow]]) to cripple the administration and who, when asked for his last will, before execution, desired: ''No desire is left except one that some one may put a little soil of my motherland in my winding sheet''. [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]] (popular as Frontier Gandhi), a great nationalist who spent 45 of his 95 years of life in jail for the freedom of India; [[Barakatullah]] of [[Bhopal]], one of the founders of the ''[[Ghadar party]]'' which created a network of anti-British organizations and who died penniless in Germany in l927; [[Syed Rahmat Shah]] of the ''Ghadar party'' who worked as an underground revolutionary in France and was hanged for his part in the unsuccessful Ghadar (mutiny)uprising in 1915; [[Ali Ahmad Siddiqui]] of [[Faizabad]] (UP) who planned the [[Indian Mutiny]] in [[Malaya]] and [[Burma]] along with [[Syed Mujtaba Hussain]] of [[Jaunpur]] and who was hanged In 1917; [[Vakkom Abdul Khadar]] of [[Kerala]] who participated in "[[Quit India]]" struggle in 1942 was hanged ; [[Umar Subhani]], an industrialist and a millionaire of Bombay who provided Gandhi with congress expenses and who ultimately gave his life for the cause of independence. Among Muslim women, [[Hazrat Mahal]], [[Asghari Begum]], Bi Amma contributed heavily in the struggle of freedom from Britishers.

There was also a major uprising by Kerala Muslims in the form of the [[Moplah Rebellion]].

The following is a list of some famous Muslims who fought for a unified India (as opposed to Pakistan): [[Maulana Azad]], [[Hakeem Ajmal Khan]], [[Tipu Sultan]], [[Hyder Ali]], [[Maulana Shaukat Ali]], [[Hasrat Mohani]], [[Professor Barkatullah]], [[Dr. Zakir Husain]] , [[Saifuddin Kichlu]], Allama [[Shibli Nomani]], [[Vakkom Abdul Khadir]], Dr. [[Manzoor Abdul Wahab]], ,[[Bahadur Shah Zafar]], [[Hakeem Nusrat Husain]], [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]], [[Samad Achakzai]], [[Maulana Mohammad Ali]], Colonel Shahnawaz, Dr. M.A.Ansari, [[Rafi Ahmad Kidwai]], Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Viqarul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, VM Ubaidullah, SR Rahim, [[Badruddin Tyabjee]], and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

==Law and politics==

Muslims in India are Governed by The Muslim [[Personal Law]] ([[Shariat]]) Application Act, 1937.<ref> [http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/muslimperact/muslimpersonalact.htm The Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act, 1937]</ref>. it directs the application of Muslim Personal Law to Muslims in a number of different areas mainly related to family law which includes marriage, Mahr(Dower), [[Divorce]], Maintenance, Gifts, [[Wakf]], Wills and Inheritance.<ref> [http://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/legal/india.htm Article discussing Muslim personal law in India]</ref> The courts generally apply the [[Hanafi]] [[Sunni]] law, with exceptions made only for those areas where [[Shia]] law differed substantially from Sunni practice.

Although [[Indian constitution]] provided equal rights to all citizens irrespective of their religion and Article 44 recommended [[Uniform civil code]] for all. The attempts by successive political leadership in the country to integrate the Indian society under common civil code was was strongly resisted and is still viewed by Indian Muslims as an attempt to dilute the cultural identity of the minority group of the country. [[All India Muslim Personal Law Board]] was established for the protection and continued applicability of “Muslim Personal Law” i.e. Shariat Application Act in India.

==Muslims in Modern India==

Muslims in India post-[[Independence]] have had a mixed and sometimes turbulent history. The aftermath of the [[Partition of India]] in 1947 saw large scale [[sectarian]] strife and bloodshed throughout the nation. During partition, large populations of Muslims, including many who were rich and educated, left for Pakistan. Across the border, these immigrants or '[[Muhajirs]]' have ever since played an important role in the development of Pakistan. The majority of Muslims in India are economically backward; however, like in all minorities, there are Muslims who have played a special role in all fields of the country's advancement. Still, Muslims have sometimes been the victims of [[religious fundamentalism]]. At the same time, Muslim fundamentalist groups also hold prominence in states like [[Jammu and Kashmir]]. There is an increasingly heated debate on whether what [[secularists]] in India classify as religious fundamentalism is only limited to the Hindu side in an attempt to protect the Muslim minority. The recent issue regarding the [[Ayodhya]] [[temple]] site shows that these problems, products of religious nationalism some 70 years ago, are hardly likely to go away in the near future.

The [[Students Islamic Movement of India]] (SIMI) was formed in [[Aligarh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]] state, in April 1977. The stated mission of SIMI is the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land and is widely believed to be against [[secularism]], [[democracy]] and [[nationalism]], keystones of the [[India]]n [[Constitution of India|Constitution]] and believes that [[Osama bin Laden]] is an outstanding example of a true [[Mujahid]]. Indian government alleges that SIMI is associated with Pakistan's [[ISI]] and also with numerous anti-Indian groups. This organisation was outlawed by the Indian Government in 2002. [http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm][http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main1.htm]

Prominent Indian Muslims include:
* [[Khwaja Abdul Hamid]], who in 1935 founded one of the first Indian-owned [[industries]] in the [[colonial]] era, [[CIPLA]] (The Chemical, Industrial & Pharmaceutical Laboratories). In 1939, when [[Mahatma Gandhi]] visited CIPLA he wrote that he was "delighted to visit this Indian enterprise". CIPLA today is a [[pharmaceutical]] company with a global presence, it's products being sold in over 150 countries worldwide.

* There have been three Muslim presidents of India, Dr. [[Zakir Hussain (politician)|Zakir Hussain]], Dr [[Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed]] and the current president, Dr. [[A.P.J. Abdul Kalam]].

* [[Salim Ali (ornithologist)|Salim Ali]] (November 12, 1896 - July 27, 1987) is one of India's best known ornithologist and naturalist. Known as the "Birdman of India", Salim Ali was among the first Indians to conduct systematic bird surveys in India and his books have contributed enormously to understanding and protecting India's birds and also other wildlife.

* [[Azim Premji]], owner of [[Wipro Ltd.]] is the richest man in India. In 2005, Yusuf Hameed of CIPLA and Azim Premji received one of India's highest civilian awards, the [[Padma Bhushan]] for his contributions to the country.

Muslims are also playing pivotal roles in the advertising industry, film industry ([[Bollywood]]), modern art, academics, theatre and sports. Some large industries like [[Wipro]] Ltd., [[Wockhardt]], [[Himalaya health care]], [[Hamdard Laboratories]] and [[Mirza Tanners]] are owned by Muslims.

''see: [[List of notable muslims of independent India]]''

Although they have a turbulent history, Muslims in India now do not face any problems from any other religious sect, in developed areas. They have be included in the [[Reservation]] Policy of the Government of India, which is an [[affirmative action]] policy. Generally in cities in mordern India, everybody celebrates every other religious ceremony.

==Muslim Institutes==
There are several well established Muslim institutes in India. Here is a list of reputed institutes established by Muslims.
*'''Modern College and University''': [[Aligarh Muslim University]], [[Jamia Millia Islamia]], [[Hamdard University (India))|Hamdard University]], [[Al Ameen College]] [[Bangalore]], [[Al Kabir college]] [[Mysore]], .
*'''Traditional Islamic University''': [[Darul Uloom Deoband]], [[Darul-uloom Nadwatul Ulama]], Darul-Ulum Manzar Islam (Bareli)
*'''Other religious institutions''': [[Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind]]
*'''Media''': [http://www.milligazette.com Milli Gazette], [http://www.siasat.com/english/ Siasat], [http://www.radianceweekly.com/default.asp Radiance Weekly]

==Population Statistics==
Islam is [[India]]'s largest minority religion, with [[Muslim]]s officially constituting 13.4 % of the country's population, or 137 million people as of [[2001]][[census]]. However, unofficial estimates show a far higher figure supposedly discounted in censuses. For instance, in an interview with a well circulated newspaper of India ''The Hindu'' Justice K.M. Yusuf, a retired Judge from Calcutta High Court and Chairman of ''West Bengal Minority Commission'', says that the real percentage of Muslims in India is atleast 20%. [http://www.islamicpopulation.com/india_muslim.html]. As per Syed Shahabuddin, a diplomat-turned-politician, a Muslim scholar and one of the members in the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, both Hindu and Muslim ‘spokesmen’, speaking for their respective communities ''amplify and exaggerate'' the Muslim population in India, the first, to convince their followers about the rising ‘Islamic menace’, a threat to the country and at least to its Hindu character, the second, to raise the morale of a politically deprived, educationally backward, economically poor and socially vilified, frustrated community.[http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15092001/29.htm]

The largest concentrations--about 47% of all Muslims in India--live in the 3 states of [[Bihar]] (13.7 million) (16.5%), [[West Bengal]] (20.2 million) (25%), and [[Uttar Pradesh]] (30.7 million) (18.5%), according to the 2001 census. Muslims represent a majority of the local population only in [[Jammu and Kashmir]] (67 % in [[2001]]) and [[Lakshadweep]] (95 %). High concentrations of Muslims are found in the eastern states of [[Assam]] (31 %) and [[West Bengal]] (25 %), and in the southern state of [[Kerala]] (25 %) and [[Karnataka]] (12.2%). Muslims are generally more educated, urban, integrated and prosperous in the Western and Southern states of India than in the Northern and Eastern ones. India has the third largest [[Muslim]] population (after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]]) and also the third largest [[Shia]] Muslim population (after Pakistan and [[Iran]]) in the world.

The analysis on [[Religion]] Data, among the six major religious communities, the decadal growth of the Muslims was the highest (36.0%) at the [[2001]] Census. This statistics suggested while the growth rate for Hindus has fallen between [[1991]] and [[2001]] compared with [[1981]] and [[1991]], Muslims have actually grown faster in the last decade, this led Indian [[Media]]<ref>[http://www.indiatogether.org/2004/oct/med-census.htm The Muslim growth rate and the media]</ref> and different Muslim bashing Pro-[[Hindutva]] parties raising an alarm at the growing number of Muslims and express concern about the [[demographic imbalance]]<ref>[http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2120/stories/20041008006101600.htm - The population bogey Frontline Coverstory Volume 21 - Issue 20, Sept. 25 - Oct. 08, 2004]</ref>.

The truth was that Muslims have seen a significant fall in population growth rates. The false impression about a rising Muslim growth rate is created because the [[1991]] census did not include [[Jammu & Kashmir]],the only Muslim majority state and strife-torn [[Assam]], while the [[2001]] census does include [[Jammu & Kashmir]]. Adjusted for this and the Muslim growth rate plunged from 36 per cent to 29.3 per cent.

== The History of Islam in India ==
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The first Islamic presence in India came in the 8th century CE, when Syrian Arabs led by Muhammad Qasim conquered the region of Sindh and made it an eastern province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
* [[Islamic invasion of India]]
* [[Islamic Empires in India]]
* [[Mughal era]]

==Islamic Traditions in South Asia==
[[Image:Jama Masjid is the largest mosque in India. Delhi, India..jpg|thumb|250px|The Jama Masjid, [[Delhi]] is one of the largest mosques in the world.]]
A significant aspect of Indian Islam is the importance of shrines attached to the memory of great [[Sufi]] saints. [[Sufism]] is a mystical path ([[tarika]]) as distinct from the legalistic path of the [[sharia]]. A Sufi attains a direct vision of oneness with God, often on the edges of orthodox behavior, and can thus become a Pir (living saint) who may take on disciples ([murid]s) and set up a spiritual lineage that can last for generations. Orders of Sufis became important in India during the thirteenth century following the ministry of [[Moinuddin Chishti]] ([[1142]]-[[1236]]), who settled in [[Ajmer]], [[Rajasthan]], and attracted large numbers of converts to Islam because of his holiness. His [[Chishtiyya]] order went on to become the most influential Sufi lineage in India, although other orders from [[Central Asia]] and [[Southwest Asia]] also reached to India and played a major role in the spread of Islam. Many Sufis were well known for weaving music, dance, intoxicants, and local folktales into their songs and lectures. In this way, they created a large literature in [[regional language]]s that embedded Islamic culture deeply into older South Asian traditions.

In the case of many great teachers, the memory of their holiness has been so intense that they are still viewed as active intercessors with God, and their tombs have become the site of rites and prayers by disciples and lay people alike. Tales of miraculous deeds associated with the tombs of great saints have attracted large numbers of pilgrims attempting to gain cures for physical maladies or solutions to personal problems. The tomb of the Pir thus becomes a dargah (gateway) to God and the focus for a wide range of rituals, such as daily washing and decoration by professional attendants, touching or kissing the tomb or contact with the water that has washed it, hanging petitions on the walls of the shrine surrounding the tomb, and giving money.

The descendants of the original pir are sometimes seen as inheritors of his spiritual energy and as pirs in their own right. They may dispense amulets sanctified by contact with them or with the tomb. The annual celebration of the Pir's death is a major event at important shrines, attracting hundreds of thousands of devotees for celebrations that may last for days. Free communal kitchens and distribution of sweets are also big attractions of these festivals, at which Muslim fakirs, or wandering ascetics, sometimes appear and where public demonstrations of self-mortification, such as miraculous piercing of the body and spiritual possession of devotees, sometimes occur. Every region of India can boast of at least one major Sufi shrine that attracts expressive devotion, which remains important, especially for Muslim women.

The leadership of the Muslim community has pursued various directions in the evolution of Indian Islam during the [[twentieth century]]. The most conservative wing has typically rested on the education system provided by the hundreds of religious training institutes ([[madrasa]]) throughout the country, which have tended to stress the study of the [[Qur'an]] and Islamic texts in [[Arabic language|Arabic]] and [[Persian language|Persian]] but little else. Several national movements have emerged from this sector of the Muslim community. The [[Jamaati Islami]] (Islamic Party), founded in [[1941]], advocates the establishment of an overtly Islamic government through peaceful, democratic, and non-missionary activities. The Indian branch of the party had about 3,000 active members and 40,000 sympathizers in the mid-[[1980s]]. The [[Tablighi Jamaat]] (Outreach Society) became active after the [[1940s]] as a movement, primarily among the ulema (religious leaders), stressing personal renewal, prayer, a missionary and cooperative spirit, and attention to orthodoxy. It has been highly critical of the kind of activities that occur in and around Sufi shrines and remains a minor if respected force in the training of the ulema. Conversely, other ulema have upheld the legitimacy of mass religion, including exaltation of pirs and the memory of the [[Muhammad|Prophet]]. A powerful secularising drive led by [[Syed Ahmad Khan]] resulted in the foundation of [[Aligarh Muslim University]] ([[1875]] as the [[Muhammadan Anglo-Oriental College]]) -- with a broader, more modern curriculum -- and other major Muslim universities. This educational drive has remained the most dominant force in guiding the Muslim community.

== Post - Independence ==
The Muslims of India have generally been treated well although there has been many [[anti-Muslim]] riots.
*[http://www.themodernreligion.com/assault/india-ext.html Muslims in India]
*[http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/Summary%20Muslims.pdf Muslims in India Census 2001]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.info IndianMuslims.info Informational website on Indian Muslims]
*[http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mriexin/sasislam.html South Asian Islam Links]
*[http://www.islamawareness.net/Asia/India/ Islam, Muslim and Politics in India ]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.org IndianMuslimsOrg One-start portal for IndianMuslims]

== See also ==
* [[Mappila]] (Muslim community from Kerala)''
* [[Bombay]] a film by Mani Rathnam, which depicts a real face of Muslim Hindu relations in India's rural areas

==Notes and References==
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== Literature ==
*Elliot and Dowson: [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], New Delhi reprint, 1990.
*Majumdar, R. C. (ed.), The History and Culture of the Indian People, Volume VI, The Delhi Sultanate, Bombay, 1960; Volume VII, The Mughal Empire, Bombay, 1973.
*M K A Siddiqui (ed.), ''Marginal Muslim Communities In India'', Institute of Objective Studies, New Delhi (2004) ([http://www.iosworld.org/life_on_the_margins.htm review])

==See also==
* [[Islam by country]],
* [[Indian Muslim nationalism]]
* [[Islam in Pakistan]]
* [[Islam in Bangladesh]]

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User:Sathyan Bhrama

2006-06-16T04:19:12Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

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Hi people,

My name is Sathyan Bhrama, call me sathy. You can write to me at ''sathyan.bhrama@gmail.com''
--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 04:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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2006-06-16T04:18:53Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

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Hi people,

My name is Sathyan Bhrama, call me sathy. You can write to me at ''sathyan.bhrama@gmail.com''
--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 08:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

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2006-06-16T04:17:31Z

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[[Image:Blnguyen.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Blnguyen in action]]
'''Archives'''
*[[/Archive1]]: [[October]] [[2005]] - [[March 2]] [[2006]] (44kb)
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**[[/Archive my RfA]]: separate archive for posts regarding my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Blnguyen|RfA]]

== Thanks for help with "Dr. Farooq" ==

I didn't want to go to the trouble of reporting him as a spammer but you caught it anyway. Thanks so much! [[User:Zora|Zora]] 01:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

==What do you suggest I do?==
[[User:PatCheng]] is unblocked and is immediately back to summarily reverting all of my contributions (either as TJive or YINever). He has been stalking me like this since last September and has never faced any penalty for it. Look at his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PatCheng contribution list]. Within a span of less than half an hour, he reverted everything I edited the other day as well, including existing reverts and work on other articles.

# 01:24, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) No Gun Ri
# 01:24, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) The Profits of Extermination
# 01:23, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Carlos Franqui
# 01:23, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Eduardo Chibás
# 01:23, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) George Bernard Shaw
# 01:22, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Varela Project
# 01:22, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Freedom fighter (rv)
# 01:22, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Ladies in White (rv)
# 01:21, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Harry Magdoff and espionage
# 01:21, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Military budget of the People's Republic of China (rv)
# 01:16, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) George Bernard Shaw
# 01:16, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Eduardo Chibás
# 01:15, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Carlos Franqui (regime is not NPOV)
# 01:14, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) The Profits of Extermination
# 01:10, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) No Gun Ri
# 01:09, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Varela Project
# 01:07, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Chen Yonglin ("bloody repression" = NPOV?)
# 01:01, 6 June 2006 (hist) (diff) Chen Yonglin

With respect, you were in error to say that there were mutual claims of stalking. I have not been bothering him; he has openly been following me. Now I fear that under "RevolverOcelotX" he is going to utilize a second account to evade 3RR on every single article. He has complete contempt for the rules of this site, which he has just made plain on that forum from which we met:

''From: Fenriswolf | Posted: 6/5/2006 8:35:58 PM | Message Detail | #008
''And do you know that I don't give a **** about looney wikipedia admins? I can obtain hundreds of IP addresses to revert your trash on wikipedia. [http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/6562/wiki6rv.jpg]

RFCs are not effective. It will quickly come down to a matter of content disputes because there are half a dozen editors of this site which have clashed with me at political articles. This is a completely separate issue, but no one cares to see it for what it is. Is this sort of harassment not considered disruptive? --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 01:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Look at the following users:
{{user|TJive}}
{{user|YINever}}
{{user|72.65.77.79}}

These people has undone my reverts within the time-period of my edits. They appear to be sockpuppets of the same intended to evade WP:3RR, and an user-check might be necessary. --[[User:PatCheng|PatCheng]] 01:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== Wikiproject Beauty Pageants ==

Hi Blnguyen... you're probably far too busy to be interested (or lack any interest whatever), but I just thought I'd let you know that [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants|WikiProject Beauty Pageants]] is now open for business :) (and thanks again for fixing that autoblock yesterday) -- Pag[[User:PageantUpdater/Esperanza|e]]antUpdater 02:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

==Response==

I wouldn't hestitate to thwack a user in those circumstances. :) [[User:Rebecca|Rebecca]] 02:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:I replied to your question via e-mail. [[User:Prodego|''Prodego'']] [[User talk:Prodego|talk]] 03:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

::Please see [[WP:RFCU#User:YINever]] and [[WP:RFCU#User:PatCheng]]. [[User:Prodego|''Prodego'']] [[User talk:Prodego|talk]] 03:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:One thing though, remember a screenshot with no confirmation that the screenshot is real, or that that user is the same as your editor, will likely be greeted with skepticism. [[User:Prodego|''Prodego'']] [[User talk:Prodego|talk]] 04:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It'd depend on the circumstances, but I'd be inclined to block the account indefinitely, pending review at [[WP:ANI]]. If there were no issues raised there, then I'd just thwack the socks as socks of a banned user. [[User:Rebecca|Rebecca]] 05:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Unfortunately, no, I can't help you. You're right, it's named after a game, [[Jennifer Government: NationStates|NationStates]] ([http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/]), but not something that has anything to do with GameFAQs unfortunately. Good luck in clearing the mess though. [[User:NSLE|NSL]][[WP:EA|E]] ([[User_talk:NSLE|T]]+[[Special:Contributions/NSLE|C]]) at 04:35 [[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] ([[2006-06-06]])

== Re: GameFAQs ==

Yep, I am a long-time member of the forum, although I haven't been very active in quite sometime. What can I help you out with? Just as a warning, I can't really commit to anything big until after 00:00 Wednesday as I have a busy day tomorrow (Tuesday). If it is something small, I can try to help sooner than that.--[[User:PS2pcGAMER|PS2pcGAMER]] ([[User talk:PS2pcGAMER|talk]]) 05:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:Hi there. Sure. Allow me a moment to read over properly and I'll be back. Do you have the screenshot? I don't see it anywhere here. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 07:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

::Thanks. I've now seen this [http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/6562/wiki6rv.jpg]. As per Rebecca above, I'd lean towards an indefinite block pending a review. If the user account can be proven to be one and the same author of that forum post then there's nothing to be gained by having that attitude around. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:::I think if the ArbCom had solid evidence matching one identity to another, you'd get another reply entirely. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

::::<S>From where I'm sitting and seeing the situation, I wouldn't land a block yet, but then I'm outside of the problem. If it's advice you're after, I'd give it a little time to see if a course of advice develops at AN/I, giving you the backup of a little more community support. I'll keep an eye on things and assist where I can. - [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)</S>

:::::Sorry I was typing whilst on the phone. You have my 100% attention now (human multitasking still has bugs). I read the ArbCom comment back to front sorry during a distraction. Is ''Fenriswolf'' correct? I couldn't find a user with that username. Yes, I also recommened an indefinite block pending the outcome (if any) at AN/I. The editor is probably at a University or a workplace with a largish network, and would more than likely come undone if using IT resources for this purpose. I know they would if they were working for me. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

::::::It's clearer now. Thanks for the clarity update. On one hand, I take the threat seriously, and on the other I see it as bragging and talking up a situation to win with words. Perhaps before a block, keep an eye on the user, and the articles concerned. Blocking without hard evidence is something we generally don't like to do. If you can show me hard evidence the two users are the same, I'll block them myself. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I've got your evidence. I've unfortunately now got to pop out for appoximately 3 - 4 hours, but upon my return I'll look into it and act accordingly if nobody else has by then. Let's also see how the AN/I thread develops before we ultimately act. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 08:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

This is rediculous. I indeed have several accounts at Gamefaqs, but most of them I have are newly created ones either closed or banned by Gamefaqs moderators. If you look at the details of this Fenriswolf person:

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Fenris has been at Gamefaqs for nearly 4 years, whereas I have only stumbled across Gamefaqs in early 2005. I have seen Fenriswolf's posts in the Asia and Japan regional boards, and from the nature of them he seems to be a loyal, unquestioned admirer of the Chinese communist government. Myself however, is an Australian citizen. Although I do not oppose the Chinese government, I support eventual democracy in China, and can at least acknowledges its negative aspects. If I was indeed a mindless follower of the Chinese government, then why didn't I remove entire sections of articles such as Falun Gong and Epoch Times regarding negative aspects of the government? I reverts some of TJive's edits due to his choice of wording, such as his insistance in calling certain governments "regimes", and his tendency to edit without discussion, dismissing me as a stooge of the Chinese government on his user page.. If you look at my edit history, I do not delibrately start any vandalism or edit wars, and has contributed lots to science-fiction and videogame related articles. It's unfair to judge me as a vandal based TJive's hearsay, as I do not have such resources this Fenriswolf person claimed, other than my home computer. What concrete evidence do you have to block me indifinitely, other than TJive's hearsay?--[[User:PatCheng|PatCheng]] 13:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

:My thoughts today? I'm wary, as other editors are, but lacking solid hard evidence matching the two editors, I'm not 100% convinced a block has been earned. That said, I'm not saying I don't belive you, just that the evidence isn't clear. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 04:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

::I'm in support of your block now. I see your block in place, and fully support it on the grounds that a) he's either who you say he is, or b) the account has been comprised. In either event, the account should be indefinetely blocked. Sorry it wasn't a clear case of abuse with an easy answer, but the recent post to AN/I made things a lot clearer. -- [[User:Longhair|Longhair]] 06:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==My RFA==
<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px darkgreen; background-color: lightgreen;">[[Image:Bellows George Dempsey and Firpo 1924.jpg|120px|left|Thanks]]<center> {{PAGENAME}}, '''thank you''' for participating in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Staxringold 2|my RfA]]. It passed with an amazingly unopposed 77/0/1. Thanks for the support everybody! If you see me doing anything wrong, want to ask me something, or just want to yell in my general direction, leave me a note on [[User talk:Staxringold|my talk page]]. I promise to try and '''''knock out''''' [[Wikipedia]]'s problems wherever I may find them!

[[User:Staxringold|Staxringold]] [[User talk:Staxringold|talk]][[Special:Contributions/Staxringold|contribs]] 20:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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== [[aleks ault]] ==

why did you delete the "aleks ault" page i created? i left a talk message, but there was no response. what should i have put to keep it from being deleted? i read the notice, but that doesnt mean anything to me. the rules arent extrememly clear.{{unsigned|Blindedby8mm}}

== Your accusations ==

''"Hello Longhair, what are you thinking? Snottygobble also appears unimpressed. "Fenriswolf" now claims to have hacked into User:PatCheng and also RevolverOcelotX, who have been team-reverting many articles. I think that the two accounts are severely compromised to say the least. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)"''

:Blnguyen, your accusations are false and not true. Your accusations of me being a sockpuppet of PatCheng has been has been proven false by this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_CheckUser#User:PatCheng CheckUser]. Check my contributions, I haven't been team-reverting any articles ever since I was blocked for 3RR on [[Mao: The Unknown Story]]. --[[User:RevolverOcelotX|RevolverOcelotX]] 03:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Congrats! ==

Hi, Wikitwin Blnguyen! Congratulations on passing your Rfa! *Sigh*, I wish I could be an admin, but I just can't...oh well, I'll just wait for a few more...''YEARS'' or even DECADES...anyway, congrats!--[[User:tdxiang| 陈]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|鼎]][[User Talk:tdxiang|翔]] [[Special:Contributions/Tdxiang|贡献]] [irc://irc.freenode.net/tdxiang Chat with Tdxiang on IRC!] (Tdixang is down with the flu and will be inactive) 03:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for reverting the vandalism of my talk page. And for blocking [[User talk:Tyler-07|Tyler-07]], too. Man, that guy does ''not'' like me...Anyways, just wanted to show my appreciation for your work in general and in this case in particular. -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 05:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Military budget of the People's Republic of China ==

Hi there, could you please add a "this page is protected" template to this article? Cheers, Su-Laine [[User:Su-laine.yeo|Su-laine.yeo]] 05:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: DYK ==

Hi. Glad to know that you like it (DYK of ASE). I have been looking for something interesting since a long time for DYK. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 06:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
: That would be great! Thanks in advance. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 06:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:: Have received the mail. Great ideas. I will try and do whatever I can. I don't know if you know about Manorama yearbook, but that too has some interestig stuff. Don't know why I never thought about that. :) - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 07:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Admin tools ==

I've be re-reading all the policies and guidelines for fear of doing something wrong - guess I should get going! I'll definitly take a look, thanks for the suggestion. -- [[User:Natalya|Nataly]][[User:Natalya/Esperanza|a]] 11:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==Thank you==

[[Image:Grapes.jpg|grapes|thumb|75px|left|Grapes]] Hello, I brought some for you. I really thank you for the barnstar. I accept it with humbleness and dedicate the same to “We The Wikipedians’’. Thank you. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 14:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

I'd like to thank you for the Birthday Wishes I received from you. (I was quite overwhelmed with all of the "Happy Birthdays" I got. Sure beats last year...) [[User:Steveo2|S]][[Wikipedia:Birthday Committee|t]][[User talk:Steveo2|e]][[User:Steveo2/1000 Posts|v]][[User:Steveo2/Esperanza|e]][[Template:BDC Bulletin 1|o]][[User:Steveo2/Stuff People Gave Me|2]] 18:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Smile ==
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[[User:AYArktos|A Y Arktos]]\[[User_talk:AYArktos|talk]] has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{tls|smile}}, {{tls|smile2}} or {{tls|smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! ... Thanks for remembering that I am a she, though I am not offended if people don't know. In fact I am pleased that Crzrussian didn't pick it once I jumped up and down about Elizabeth. Would an article about a man who got married and raised sheep be deleted or would he be assumed to be notable :-) ? Notability should of course be obvious in an article no matter whether about a man or a woman. [[User:AYArktos|A Y Arktos]]\[[User_talk:AYArktos|talk]] 00:34, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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== Sprotecting [[User talk:82.44.79.192]] ==

Thank you very much for protecting that page, but why did you delete the <nowiki>{{unsigned}}</nowiki>s and [[User:Lbbzman|Lbbzman's]] recap?

==A Y Arktos==
Ah, another timely vandalism revert! Thank you :) - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 01:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the star! ==

:) [[User:NawlinWiki|NawlinWiki]] 03:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Hey Blnguyen, thanks for the cucumber! Out of curiosity, what specific page you were refering to? —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 04:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:If the prod deletion of [[Переводите без транслитерации]] had anything to do with it being in Russian, please userfy it to me and I will be able to see if there's anything salvageable there. Thanks. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 04:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
::It was debated at [[WP:PNT]], see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Pages_needing_translation_into_English&oldid=57266156#.D0.9F.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.B2.D0.BE.D0.B4.D0.B8.D1.82.D0.B5_.D0.B1.D0.B5.D0.B7_.D1.82.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.BD.D1.81.D0.BB.D0.B8.D1.82.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.86.D0.B8.D0.B8]. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 04:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

==re:Hello Moe==
Yep, it was me, were ya fooled? ;-) Yep, I came back ruining a perfectly good sockpuppet. Oh well.

Wait, I taught you about [[WP:CSD]]??... err.. I mean.. of course I did. You're welcome. Now, go grasshopper, spread what I have taught you ;-) [[User:Moe Epsilon|The King]] [[User talk:Moe Epsilon|of Kings]] 05:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

==THREATS?==
I don't threaten. I garentee. We caused him to leave the first time, he will not return and butt in again, and again, and again, again. We will revirt all his changes unless he in some way contributes as the rest of us. He will no longer destroy our hard work. {{unsigned|OzWrestlemaniac}}
: Note - This user has been banned as a sockpuppet of a banned troll, as well as harassment.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

:::Teh.. like he caused me to leave the first time. He was the one I was in argument with before I left, but he wasn't the only one. ;-) Thanks for your help with this guy Blnguyen. -- from [[User:Moe Epsilon|The King]] [[User talk:Moe Epsilon|of Kings]] 03:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

==SRK==
First, how do I source forum posts and Video footage. Second, SRK is an up and coming actor with minor roles in animated films in America, where Jimmy Wales, the founder of the Wikimedia Foundation and my personal friend, founded the organization.

It is a widely circulated internet rumor that Shah Rukh did in fact father a child in Cambodia. Also on his behind the scenes DVD he specifically states that he married his wife before fame. This is a good testament to his character and is by no means junk. It is not your job to pick and choose good things about Shah Rukh and only let them pass. {{unsigned|169.233.9.97}}

== Re: WikiBirthday ==

Thanks! [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 09:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== DYK ==

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|On June 8, '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Gary Chapman (swimmer)]]''''', which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on [[:Template talk:Did you know|the "Did you know?" talk page]].
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==[[Global Reserve Bank]]==
Thanks for the notice. Frankly, it's flattering to be cited as directly influencing an admin decision -- positively influencing, at least.

As for when I'll be an admin, I dunno. SlimVirgin suggested it a few months ago, and I said I'd think about it. I'm not quite ready to submit myself to the nomination buzzsaw and, if I succeeded, to assume the responsibility. If SlimVirgin HAD left permanently, I probably would have, just to help fill in the gap, but since she's back, I can put off that decision for awhile (which reminds me, I should go over and leave her a message). --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 03:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

==DYK ordering==
Sorry about reordering the entire DYK talk page while you're refreshing :) — [[User:Brian0918|BRIAN]][[User_talk:Brian0918|0918]] • 2006-06-09 04:23
*Remember: you don't have to use every suggestion on the talk page. Pick out those that you think sound interesting, and will pull in readers; also make sure to remove the suggestions from the talk page once you add them to the template; and make sure you preview the template before saving it. — [[User:Brian0918|BRIAN]][[User_talk:Brian0918|0918]] • 2006-06-09 04:45

== My RfA ==

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|style="background-color: #FFFFCC; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #888;"|Hello, '''{{PAGENAME}}''', and thank you for vote on my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kukini|RfA]]! With a final vote of '''84/1/4''', I have now been entrusted with the [[Wikipedia:Administrators|mop, bucket and keys]]. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months, but welcome [[User talk:Kukini|feedback and suggestions]] on how I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again for your support and for the congrats! [[User:Kukini|Kukini]] 05:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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==[[List of unofficial GURPS books]]==
I have already explained why I removed the prod tag on the article's talk page. I will continue to remove any prod tags that show up on that page in accordance with Wikipedia's policy as listed here: [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion]] in section 2. [[User:Seanr451|Seanr451]] 06:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
: I've replied on your talk as to the difference between prod and afd.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 06:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, whatever. I still don't like being accused of vandalizing when I was at least attempting to follow Wikipedia's guidelines. I've run afoul of Wikisnob-powertripers before and without exception they violate Wikipedia's rules by claiming ownership of a certain article or subject and then delete-delete-delete everything I try to do. One of the aforementioned jerks even put a vandal tag on my talk page when the only alteration I've done was to correct the spelling of several words in the article. I'm getting just a bit tired of Wikians who feel they own Wikipedia and that I'm an intruder that can be squashed like a bug on a whim. [[User:Seanr451|Seanr451]] 20:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Gölök Zoltán Buday]] ==

Hello. I noticed you deleted this as per afd. Would you mind also deleting the redirect pages that were created to point to this article as well - I'd tag them, but there are quite a few as you can see - 31 at last count! Regards, [[User:MartinRe|MartinRe]] 07:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

==Cricket==
I haven't yet, but any excuse to waste a bit of time is OK with me! [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 08:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

==Sango123==
My typo. I said "her", but missed the "s" on "she". Oy. I'll fix:
::''When I first registered with Wiki, he was the first to say "Welcome", and has always been generous with her time and counsel.''
--[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] 11:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== DYK ==

Well.. I finally made it to DYK. Thanks. That inspired me to make 2 more articles in 2 days - see [[Mrinalini Sarabhai]] and [[Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande]]. I have nominated some nice facts from both the articles at [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK talk]].
*...that Indian classical dancer Mrinalini Sarabhai was married to Vikram Sarabhai, considered to be the Father of the Indian space program?
*...that Pandit Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande was a Hindustani classical musician widely acclaimed to have brought in a rennaisance in Hindustani music by his reorganisation of Ragas?
*...that the well known Hindustani classical musician Pandit Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande was born on the auspicious Hindu festival called Janmashtami and died on another auspicious Hindu festival called Ganesh Chaturthi?

Have a look if you have time. Thanks once again. Will also consider those things which you mailed me after I finish my quota of interesting stuff. Cheers! - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 14:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== What is the votingresult for Global Resource Bank? ==

How can result be delete? It is not correct treated and I will not accept this.--[[User:Swedenborg|Swedenborg]] 19:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

:The numbers and the arguments to rebut the "keeps" were pretty clear.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 03:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

==Autoblock thanks==
Hi. I just wanted to thank you for sorting out the "Auckland University" autoblock while I was away. Cheers [[User:TigerShark|TigerShark]] 08:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

== Article : priory of sion -- admin help ==

BInguyen,

pls see [[priory of sion]]. I think the entire article is written in a POV. I tried to add POV check tag to the article.But some editors are continously removing that tag. Pls look into it.

Regards. [[User:Bharatveer|Bharatveer]] 11:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

:Actually your comments might be useful. Baratveer's interventions in this article are questionable. NPOV is is difficult to maintain - or even determine - on this article, which has in the past been more ften attacked by evangelical debunkers than by believers. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] 12:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== edit block on [[Cuban Five]] ==

I appreciate your intervention on [[Cuban Five]], except locking it into the state left it by the anonymous user (clearly a sockpuppet). Since a very similar edit war is going on on [[Brothers to the Rescue]] and [[José Basulto]], will you please consider intervening there, and not by leaving it in the state of the anon this time? An anon edit block would do us the favour of revealing who we're dealing with there.
Regards, [[User:Jensbn|Jens Nielsen]] 16:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

== INCOTW - Islam in India ==

You voted for '''[[Islam in India|Islam in India]]''', this week's '''[[WP:INCOTW|Indian Colloboration of the Week]]'''. Please come and help it become a [[Wikipedia:Featured_articles|featured]]-[[Wikipedia:What is a featured article|standard]] article. - [[User:Ganeshk|Ganeshk]] ([[User talk:Ganeshk|talk]]) 23:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

== Talk page archive ==

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== Tim Cahill ==

I suppose it could be incorporated in one of those sentences regarding the match vs. Japan, I wouldn't have an objection if you did that.{{unsigned|Yonatanh}}.

:OK Yonatan, that's fine, I'll incorporate it more smoothly and unobtrusively.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==[[user:FairNBalanced]]==
Please block the person who created the anti-muslim pig image. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 01:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:THANK YOU. - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 01:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

:This user has a history of good-faith contributions interspersed with over-the-top remarks (though nothing approaching this photo). I think he's spent too much time at Little Green Footballs or something, and doesn't understand the proper limits of Wikipedia discourse. As the proud nominator for speedy delete, the photograph was a disgrace, compounded by the lack of legitimate copyright data. This kind of thing just ''can't'' be on or associated with Wikipedia. However, I see no reason to assume that he won't comply with WP policies in the future, particularly now that he knows they're enforced. The goal here should be not to punish him per se, but to bring him into compliance. I don't believe he's ever received so much as a warning. I'm curious to see what he'll have to say (if anything) when he sees he's been blocked, and reserve judgement until then.[[User:Timothy Usher|Timothy Usher]] 03:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== madonna moderna ==

WHY DID YOU DELETE THE ARTICLE ON MADONNA MODERNA, A VERY UNUSUAL ART WORK?
H A Autry. {{unsigned|172.163.68.158}}

: I deleted it because it was nominated for deletion on the grounds of "non-notable" by another user, under the {{tl|prod}} template, and this was uncontested, so it was deleted in accordance with policy.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 04:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Yet another sockpuppet ==

You just blocked 12.206.233.75 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User:12.206.233.75], most likely a sockpuppet of [[User:Rgulerdem]] a couple of minutes ago. There's now a new one, continuing where the old one left off: [[216.248.124.90]]. Can you please sprotect the [[Fethullah Gülen]] article after re-adding the <nowiki>{POV}</nowiki> tag? Thanks a lot and sorry for the trouble. [[User:Azate|Azate]] 04:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
: Another admin already saw to it. Case closed. [[User:Azate|Azate]] 06:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian's]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crzrussian|RfA]] ==

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| Hello Blnguyen, and thank you for your support at my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Crzrussian|request for adminship]], which ended with an awe-inspiring 86/1/2 result. I plan to do much with my shiny new tools - but I'll start slow and learn the ropes at first. Please deluge me with assignments and requests - I enjoy helping out. ''For Mother Russia!!'' - [[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|contribs]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]] 04:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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==autoblock==
Yes; thanks!  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 04:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:And again, thank you for sorting that. I fear it will continue to happen, which is annoying. (I'll keep [[User:Sango123]] and [[User:AmiDaniel]] in mind; thanks again.) My ISP (westnet.com.au) suggests that they would be able to track the vandal if wikipedia used the X-Forwarded-For information sent with the HTTP request. Is there any way to retrieve that from our logs?  [[User:Jeremygbyrne|JEREMY]] 08:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== Mahatma Gandhi page protect ==

Thank you! [[User:Priyanath|ॐ Priyanath]] 05:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: RfA ==

Thanks for [[User_talk:Sam_Vimes#Time_for_a_new_RfA.3F|your nice comment]] :) I've [[User_talk:ALoan#Re:_RfA|asked ALoan to nominate me]] now, so we'll see how it goes if it appears on the RfA page any time soon. [[User:Sam Vimes|Sam Vimes]] 07:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

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<td bgcolor="#f8fcff" align="justify"> Blnguyen, thank '''you''' very much for your support in my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|Request for adminship]], it passed with a final tally of (65/3/3) - which I find both amazing and humbling. I wish I had time to thank everyone personally, but I'm afraid all I can offer is this token of my gratitude. I hope to live up to your expectations/hopes. If at any stage you need to contact me, for help or a request or to point out a mistake in my conduct, please make sure to tell me on my [[User talk:Fir0002|talk page]]. --[[User:Fir0002|Fir0002]] 08:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC) </td>
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==[[User:FairNBalanced]]==
Greetings, as you were the blocking admin I thought that I'd do you the courtesy of pointing you to a [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:FairNBalanced_blocked_for_a_week|WP:ANI report about his block]] I filed. Thanks. [[User:Netscott|Netscott]] 11:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar, Germany portal ==

Thanks a lot! I think I'll have to make an Awards section of my userpage at some time (when I have time). As an experienced Portal editor: do you have suggestions how to improve [[Portal:Germany]]? I'd like to get it Featured some day, but it is probably not good enough yet. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 13:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Lu Sheng-yen]] ==

Hey man! What is your problem? Why are you such a frickin jerk! Did you not get your answer to your question on the discussion page on "lu sheng-yen"? Some neutral person changed the site so everyone agreed and you who dont know the situation well came and changed it! Do you feel better about yourself now that everyone else feels bad that you changed it? Were you not satisfied? Why do you care that much? Why cant you just let us have peace? Stop being such a jerk! If you wanna discuss this like adults then feel free to email me at lukeking3@hotmail.com. {{unsigned|71.227.232.30}}

:Firstly, thankyou for the personal attacks here, as well as the obscene personal attacks to my userpage. There was an answer to the question on his training, but that has nothing to do with the content of the article. Why are you whitewashing the article? If he made these inflammatory comments, then they will be noted, same as aggressive comments made by all other religious leaders. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

== Wengle Puppet Chums ==

Why do you consider Wengle Puppet Chums Nonsense? They're real. I make them, and my friends always laugh at them & their crazy adventures. I was going to add the Series 3 data today, but I found them gone. And I needed to copy & paste stuff from the article for a project. Now I'll have to change my theme completely. Thanks for ruining the Wengle Puppet Chums. Why did you do it?!
Darth Wengle. {{unsigned|Darth Wengle}}

:It was deleted because the {{tl|prod}} expired after 5 days. Also it seemed to violate [[WP:NOT]] as it was declared as your private invention.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 01:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==goodwinzz==

Thanks for the unblock![[User:Goodwinzz|Goodwinzz]] 10:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== A friendly note from your nearest spelling nazi ==

It's "''bl'''oc'''k''", not "blcok". Please don't type "blcok" everywhere, it makes me chuckle. :)

Thank you and have a nice day. From your local spelling nazi, [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 01:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I read all the discussion about NSLE and Mailer Diablo leaving. Don't worry, there'll be competent replacements to fill in for them in the near future. (hint, hint.) [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 03:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:P.S. Is that desk in the above photo really yours? I know the stuffed monkey isn't you, but... [[User:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi.sg]] 03:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px darkgreen; background-color: yellow;">[[Image:WikiThanks.png]] Hi {{PAGENAME}}, thank you for voting in my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Terence Ong 2|RFA]] which failed eventually at a result of '''(91/51/8)'''. I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I would like to thank you for voting. --[[User:Terence Ong|Terence Ong]] ([[User talk:Terence Ong|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Terence Ong|contribs]]) 03:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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== [[Narre Warren South, Victoria]]==

Hi there,
I am interested to know why it is that you keep removing the info on gangs in Narre Warren South. There is more to this situation than you realise. There is verifiable information on these gangs and I am trying to get these users to understand about how wikipedia works and how academic referencing in general works. These kids are extremely marginalised and having someone come along and just delete stuff that they have done in an attempt to engage with society is just devastating for them. Instead of just deleting stuff, how about you engage with these users by leaving comments on the talk page? This will help them to learn and to feel included and not continue to feel that they are being rejected. You are asking them to validate their existence. They are saying they exist and you are saying they don't. Think about this for a bit and consider why they should not just flat out laugh at you. Wikipedia works by people communicating with each other, not just deleting things with no comments.

[[User:Morgan Leigh|Morgan Leigh]] 03:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

: The reply is on your page, mostly, as well as [[WP:AWNB]].'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 05:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hi, can you block [[User:OH, IT'S THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH! GOT YO DUMB ASS!]] (lol) I saw it on recent changes. —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks, where should I go next time I see something similar? [[WP:AIV]]? —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks! —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: [[Jai Jai Garvi Gujarat - Narmad]] ==

Hello. Thanks for that tip. I was not sure what I was supposed to say [[Wikipedia:Pages_needing_translation_into_English#Jai_Jai_Garvi_Gujarat_-_Narmad|there]], but do see my reply and tell me if I need to do anything else. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 07:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Sydney Technical High School]] ==

I'm getting rather sick of this - personal attacks and the like. But if you haven't seen it already, this discussion has been brewing some time at [[User_talk:Enochlau#Removal_of_Class_of_1984_external_link]]. Personally, I don't think they'll budge, but I'm hesistant to delete the link again for fear of starting a revert war... [[User:Enochlau|enochlau]] ([[User talk:Enochlau|talk]]) 11:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Today's Star shines on... ==

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To my dear Blnguyen, for the bright light of kindness he keeps on shining every day, his patience, his guidance, his warmth, his support... I'm honored to be your friend. Thank you! [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] </div></div>
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== [[User:PatCheng]] ==

Could you please post some diffs of evidence of PatCheng's behaviour on [[WP:AN]]? It's been challenged on WikiEN-l. [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis Guy you know?]] 15:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for the star!==
Hi Blnguyen, and thanks for the barnstar! Regarding the admin nomination; {{User|King of Hearts}} also recently approached me about it (and a few others have asked about it in the past). I think I'm ready for another go at it. However, I'd prefer that a nomination be delayed until at least this Friday. King of Hearts may already be planning to do it on Friday; I'll let him know that you mentioned it as well. Thanks for the vote of confidence, [[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo]][[User:Ohnoitsjamie|itsJamie]][[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|Talk]] 02:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

==My barnstar==

Thank you very much for my Barnstar, and, as for hiding in the bushes, I'm not really hiding, I'm just elsewhere! Honest! I should start contributing more to certain fields very soon, though, so watch this space! [[User:Bobo192|Bobo]][[User talk:Bobo192|.]] 03:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== Blnguyen, thanks! ==

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| Dear Blnguyen, thanks for your support during my successful [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Samir_(The_Scope)|request for adminship]]. It means so much coming from a veteran contributor and admin like yourself (I'd bring a puffin -- my favourite bird -- but of course, that's been done already! In [[Newfoundland]], Canada, there's a island known as [[Puffin island]] that's rumoured {{fact}} to have the highest puffin density in the world. Images and article to come!) Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 04:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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==Double Standards==
I draw your attention to the article on the [[Melbourne University Football Club]]. Some of the comments used by yourself and people of similar ilk seem to also apply to this article. [[Talk:Melbourne_University_Football_Club]]. I am being provocative on this matter as I perceive there to be double standards on Wikipedia.

What do you think? [[User:Ozdaren|Ozdaren]] 04:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:: I still believe you are not backing up your support of a separate Melbourne Uni Football Club article with any great attention to detail. Your perception of the strength of the article is coloured by considering the VFL of the 1910's to be the same as the AFL of the modern era. The VFL has undergone a metmorphosis from a provincial competition to a national one. At the time of the MUFC involvement it was not the premier league in the country. I have added more detail to my arguament on the discussion page for [[Talk:Melbourne_University_Football_Club]]. [[User:Ozdaren|Ozdaren]] 14:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

==And the admin screwups start already!==
Will subst. Thanks for pointing it out, didn't even notice it. Take care -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] [[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]] 06:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== re: Sam Vimes RFA ==

Thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out and give it further thought. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 06:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== Conservatism ==

You recently blocked me for 24 hours for reverting repeated blanking by ER MD. In the future, I will be careful not to break the 3R rule even in the case of blanking. I thought it was justified in this case under the "all points of view will be represented" clause.

I don't know if you want to involve yourself in the case further, but you suggested I try the talk page. Prior to reverting the blanking, I tried to talk with ER MD for a month without any progress. I offered repeated compromises, he blanked. I did repeated rewrites, he blanked. I repeatedly asked him what he wanted, he blanked.

I used a quote from Roman historian Livy. He called it POV and OR and blanked it. I used a quote from Pulitzer Prize winning historian Will Durant. He called it POV and OR and blanked it. Now, I am back from my 24 hour block, only to find the entire section blanked and protected.

If you would be willing to arbitrate this in an unofficial way, I would appreciate it. You can check the list of contributions I have made to Wikipedia. I have edited more than 100 articles, and I have always been able to work with other Wikipedians to arrive at a reasonable compromise. If you don't want to get involved, I will certainly understand. [[User:Rick Norwood|Rick Norwood]] 06:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm a bit busy with an investigation at the moment, but maybe later if things calm down a bit. Regards, '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 02:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC).

== Alofque ==

You speedied this article although the notability was contested wiht sourcing in the AfD. Isn't the assertion enough to keep it from being speedied? Do you think you could reverse that decision and let the AfD play out? --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] [[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]] 10:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

:Well, I'm a bit sorry I didn't notice that external link, but I deleted it because the article itself didn't assert anything, and it appears to have been speedied before by two other admins. Although I'm open to reopening if you tell me what the website claimed, as many bands have been deleted despite claiming "well known" - it would seem normal procedure that it is speedy deleted, unless it asserts to having an album/deal which meets the criteria. Regards, '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] 00:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC).
::I posted the translation on the AfD. Essentially, they have toured internationally, meeting basic notability requirements. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] [[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]] 00:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

==Proposal to indefinitely block [[User:FairNBalanced|FairNBalanced]]==
As the pig image was massively ''beyond the pale'' and this editor had also engaged in other hate speech on his user page, I've proposed that he be indefinitely blocked. I think when an editor resorts to that it sours the environment so badly that other editors would not be able to take his comments and edits in good faith after that. I'd welcome your comments on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=58775903&oldid=58775345 this proposal]. Thanks. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 16:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

== my admin request ==

i have removed it, and will probably request adminship again sometime this fall. message back as to whether this seems appropriate or not.
[[User:Aaron teh tennisman|Aaron teh tennisman]] 01:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

==RFC==

Hello BInguyen, I just saw [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct&curid=2551069&diff=58875608&oldid=58845420 this] go up. I thought you might like to know so you could open up some communication with RevolverOcelotX and maybe resolve it personally since he/she apparently hasn't and since these are generally a lot more hassle for the community then they're worth. Best wishes and don't forget to [[WP:AGF|AGF]]! :) -- [[User:MarkBuckles|MarkBuckles]] 03:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

== from Sathyan Bhrama ==

Hi Blnguyen...long time no communicate. How r you?

Soon

--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 04:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

User talk:YellowMonkey

2006-06-16T04:16:55Z

Sathyan Bhrama: from Sathyan Bhrama

Mandal Commission

2006-06-16T04:10:51Z

Sathyan Bhrama: /* Mordern Impacts */

The '''Mandal Commission''' in [[India]] was established in [[1979]] by the [[Janata Party]] government under [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Morarji Desai]] with a mandate to "identify the socially or educationally backward."<ref name="Bhattacharya"> Bhattacharya, Amit. {{cite web|url=http://www.theotherindia.org/caste/who-are-the-obcs.html|title="Who are the OBCs?"|accessdate=2006-04-19}} ''Times of India'', April 8, 2006.</ref> It was headed by [[Parliament of India|Indian parliamentarian]] [[B.P. Mandal|Bindeshwari Prasad Mandal]] to consider the question of seat reservations and quotas for people to redress [[caste]] discrimination, and used eleven social, economic, and educational indicators to determine "backwardness." In [[1980]], the commission's report affirmed the [[affirmative action]] practice under Indian law whereby members of lower castes (known as [[Other Backward Class]]es and [[Scheduled Castes and Tribes]]) were given exclusive access to a certain portion of government jobs and slots in public universities, and recommended changes to these [[Racial quota|quotas]], increasing them by 27% to 49.5%{{ref|percent}}. The report, released in 1980, was the source of great controversy, and its implementation in 1990 was the ultimate cause of India's [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Vishwanath Pratap Singh]]'s resignation.

== Background ==
Under the [[1950]] [[Constitution of India]], 15% of educational and civil service seats were reserved for "scheduled castes" and 7.5% for "scheduled tribes." The first backward classes commission, headed by [[Kaka Kalekar]], submitted its report in 1955.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

In 1963, the Supreme Court of India ruled that total reservations could not exceed 50%.

==Setting up of Mandal Commission==
The plan to set up another commission was taken by the Morarji Desai government in 1978. The decision was made official by the president on January 1, 1979. The commission is popularly known as the Mandal Commission, its chairman being [[B.P. Mandal]].

==Criteria to identify OBC==
The Mandal Commission adopted various methods and techniques to collect the necessary data and evidence. The commission adopted 11 criteria
which could be grouped under three major headings: social, educational and economic in order to identify OBCs.<ref name=Ramaiah>{{cite web
| last = Ramaiah
| first = A
| date = 6 June, 1992
| url = http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf
| title = Identifying Other Backward Classes
| format = PDF
| work =
| pages = 1203-1207
| publisher = Economic and Political Weekly
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
| accessyear =
| curly =
}}</ref>
===Social===
#Castes/classes considered as socially backward by others.
#Castes/classes which mainly depend on manual labour for their livelihood.
#Castes/classes where at least 25 per cent females and 10 per cent males above the state average get married at an age below 17 years in rural areas and at least 10 per cent females and 5 per cent males do so in urban areas.
#Castes/classes where participation of females in work is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Educational===
#Castes/classes where the number of children in the age group of 5-15 years who never attended school is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the rate of student drop-out in the age group of 5-15 years is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes amongst whom the proportion of matriculates is at least 25 per cent below the state average.

===Economic===
#Castes/classes where the average value of family assets is at least 25 per cent below the state average.
#Castes/classes where the number of families living in kuccha houses is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the source of drinking water is beyond half a kilometer for more than 50 per cent of the households.
#Castes/classes where the number of households having taken consumption loans is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Weightage===
Of these three groups, separate weightage was given to indicators of each group. A weightage of three points each was given to all the social indicators. Educational indicators were given two points each. And economic indicators were given one point each. All castes which had a score of 50 per cent or above by applying the score were listed as socially and educationally backward and the rest were treated as ‘advanced’.

==Findings and report==

The commission estimated that 54% of the total population (excluding SCs and STs), belonging to 3,743 different castes and communities were ‘backward’.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/> Figures of caste-wise population are not available beyond 1931. So the commission used 1931 census data to calculate the number of OBCs. The population of Hindu OBCs was derived by subtracting from the total population of Hindus, the population of SC and ST and that of forward Hindu castes and communities, and it worked out to be 52 per cent.<ref name=Ramaiah/> Assuming that roughly the proportion of OBCs amongst non-Hindus was of the same order as amongst the Hindus, population of non-Hindu OBCs was also considered as 52 per cent.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

==Recommendations==
The report of the commission was submitted in December 1980. It called for reserving 27% of all services and public-sector undertakings under the Central government and 27% of all admissions to institutions of higher education (except in states that have reserved higher percentages) for Other Backward classes (OBCs), over and above the existing 22.5% reservation for SCs and STs.

The recommendations can be represented in a gist form as follows:<ref name=Ramaiah/>

The population of OBCs which includes both Hindus and non-Hindus is around 52 per cent of the total population. However only 27 per cent of reservation was recommended owing to the legal constraint that the total quantum of reservation should not exceed 50 percent. States which have already introduced reservation for OBC exceeding 27 per cent will not be affected by this recommendation. With this general recommendation the commission proposed the following over-all scheme of reservation for OBC:
#Candidates belonging to OBC recruited on the basis of merit in an open competition should not be adjusted against their reservation quota of 27 per cent.
#The above reservation should also be made applicable to promotion quota at all levels.
#Reserved quota remaining unfilled should be carried forward for a period of three years and de-reserved thereafter.
#Relaxation in the upper age limit for direct recruitment should be extended to the candidates of OBC in the same manner as done in the case of SCs and STs.
#A roster system for each category of posts should be adopted by the concerned authorities in the same manner as presently done in respect of SC and ST candidates.

These recommendations in total are applicable to all recruitment to public sector undertakings both under the central and state governments, as also to nationalised banks. All private sector undertakings which have received financial assistance from the government in one form or other should also be obliged to recruit personnel on the aforesaid basis. All universities and affiliated colleges should also be covered by the above scheme of
reservation. Although education is considered an important factor to bring a desired social change, "educational reform" was not within the terms of reference of this commission. To promote literacy the following measures were suggested:
#An intensive time-bound programme for adult education should be launched in selected pockets with high concentration of OBC population;
# Residential schools should be set up in these areas for backward class students to provide a climate specially conducive to serious studies. All facilities in these schools including board and lodging should be provided free of cost to attract students from poor and backward homes;
#Separate hostels for OBC students with above facilities will have to be provided;
#Vocational training was considered imperative.
#It was recommended that seats should be reserved for OBC students in all scientific, technical and professional institutions run by the central as well as state governments. The quantum of reservation should be the same as in the government services, i e, 27 per cent.

== Protest ==
A decade after the commission gave its report, [[V.P. Singh]], the Prime Minister at the time, tried to implement its recommendations in 1989. The criticism was sharp and colleges across the country held massive protests against it. Soon after, [[Rajiv Goswami]], student of Delhi University, self-immolated himself in protest of the government's actions. His act further sparked a series of [[self-immolation]]s by other college students and led to a formidable movement against job reservations for [[Backward Castes]] in [[India]].

== Mordern Impacts ==

Due to the reservation policy, there has been an increase in the number of so called Forward Caste people leaving India to countries with equal oppurtunities.

== Debate ==
{{unreferenced|article's section called Debate}}
===Arguments in favor===
* Govt should open Kendriya Vidyalaya / Navodaya Vidyalaya quality school all over India to create a level playing field, till the it should continue with reservation policy.{{fact}}
* Govt should stop private Medical colleges from imparting PG courses.{{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in jobs for Muslims as their candidature is rejected at resume shortlisting/interview level{{fact}} and only brilliant Muslims (like President APJ Abdul Kalam, Azim Premji etc) are able to clear this invisible hurdle (there are Muslims in corporate world as well but one can notice that they are equally competant){{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC's as well otherwise their candidature is rejected at interview.{{fact}}
* If not formal reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC/Muslims then govt should extend incentives like reduced taxes to private sector.{{fact}}
* Govt should notice that private sector only puts dilution of quality of high tech jobs but there are ample unskilled/semiskilled jobs as well but even those have inadequate Dalit/Muslim/MBC representation.{{fact}}
* Govt should create a law{{fact}} to do away with near 100% Brahmin reservation in post of Temple Pujari, post of Sankaracharya (which is not a law, however, but observed due to religious bias).

Supporters of the Mandal Commission argue that national unity should be on the basis of justice for all castes, and that both traditional ''varnashram'' and post-independence Congress Raj had worked only to the benefit of [[brahmin]]s and other privileged minorities.{{fact}} They also argue that reservations are essential to the uplift and empowerment of people from less privileged castes.

Here it must be kept in mind that, Reservation as we see it today, was not what the dalits of India wanted. The Simon Commission had agreed to the "Separate Electorate" demand of Dr. Ambedkar. Mahatma Gandhi in protest decided to fast unto death because he was of the view, that this will create further divisions between the untouchables and upper cast Hindus.

Reservation was agreed upon by Dr. Ambedkar in the [[Poona Pact]]. However Dr. Ambedkar felt that reservations should exist only for a fixed period of time, namely 10 years after independence.

===Opposition===
The opponents of the issue argue:
* . . .that allocating [[racial quota|quotas]] on the basis of [[caste]] is a form of [[racial discrimination]] which is contrary to the right to [[equality]].
*. . . that as a consequence, legislation for providing reservation for [[Christians]] and [[Muslim]] religious minorities in all government education institutions will be introduced <ref>[http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?category=National&template=reservation&slug=Quota+for+Tamil+Nadu+religious+minorities&id=88392&callid=1 Quota for Tamil Nadu religious minorities]</ref>, which is contrary to the ideas of [[secularism]], and is a form of discrimination on the basis of religion.
* . . .that most often, only the economically sound people (and rather rich) from the so-called lower castes will make use of most of the reserved the seats, thus making the aim a total failure.<ref name=creamybackward>{{cite journal
| last = Srinivas
| first = M.N.
| year = 1997
| month = August
| title = The pangs of change
| journal = Frontline
|Publisher = The Hindu
| volume = 14
| issue = 16
| pages =
| url = http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1416/14160670.htm
| format =
| accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref> Political parties know reservations are no way to improve the lot of the poor and the backward. They support them because of self-interest of the “creamy layer”, who use the reservations to further their own family interests, and as a political flag of ‘achievement’ during election campaigns.<ref name=slrao>{{cite news
|first = S.L.
|last = Rao
|url = http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060605/asp/opinion/story_6293323.asp
|title = TOO MANY BOSSES - The UPA has a cabinet with many insubordinate ministers
|work =
|publisher = The Telegraph
|date = 5 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-05
}}</ref> In fact, several studies show that the OBC class is quite comparable with the general caste in terms of annual per capita consumption expenditure, and the top strata of OBC is ahead in a host of consumption areas.<ref name=apcce>{{cite news
|first = Shailesh
|last = Dobhal
|url = http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1606542.cms
|title = In consumption, OBCs are no longer backwards
|work =
|publisher = The Economic Times, Times Internet Limited
|date = 2 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>
* . . .that the quality of these elite institutes may go down, because merit is severly being compromised by reserving seats for certain caste-based communities.<ref name=qualitycompromise>{{cite news
|url = http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060428/edit.htm#1
|title = Divisive quota : Education alone can empower
|work =
|publisher = The Tribune
|date = 28 April, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref>
* . . .that there are no efforts made to give proper primary education to really deprived classes,<ref name=creamybackward/> so there is no need to reserve seats for higher studies. The government schools in India have absolutely no comparison to the public schools in the developed countries, and only about 65% of the Indian polupation is literate<ref name=literacyrate>{{cite web
|url = http://www.censusindia.net/results/provindia3.html
|title = Literacy Rate: India
|work =
|publisher = Registrar General and Census Commissioner, India
|date =
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>, the ''functional literacy'' being estimated to be even as low as only 34% of the population{{fact}}. The critics argue that "reservation" only in higher institutions and jobs, without improving primary and secondary education, cannot solve this problem.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that the government is dividing people on the basis of castes for political advantages.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
* . . .that this can also lead to prolonged reservation system indefinitely.
* . . .that, the caste system is kept alive through these measures. Instead of coming up with alternative innovative ideas which make sure equal representation at the same time making the caste system irrelevant, the decision is only fortifying the caste system.
* . . .that the autonomy of the educational institutes are lost.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that not everyone from the so-called upper class are rich, and not all from so called lower classes are poor.<ref name=slrao/>
*...that this policy of the Congress will create a huge unrest in the Indian society.<ref name=qualitycompromise/><ref name=unrestetc>{{cite news
|first = S
|last = Ramchandran
|url = http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/25/stories/2006042504140800.htm
|title = India Inc., liberalisation, and social responsibility
|work =
|publisher = The Hindu
|date = April 25, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref> Providing quotas on the basis of caste and not on the basis of merit will deter the determination of many educated and deserving students of India.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
*...that this policy of the government will also increase the phenomenon of Brain Drain from India and the under graduates and graduates will start moving to foreign universities for higher education.This will be in such a case a great set back and will have the most devastating affects on Indian education and economy{{fact}}.
*...that multi-national companies will be deterred by this action of the government,and foreign investment in India may dry down, hurting the growth of the Indian economy.<ref name=slrao/> Doubtless, urgent actions to improve the lot of the majority, which has not benefited from development — not achieved after 55 years of reservations for scheduled castes — are essential. But this must not hazard improving the economy’s competitiveness in a very competitive world.<ref name=slrao/>
*... there are already talks of reservations in the private sector.<ref name=slrao/> If even after providing so many facilities to reserved categories during education, if there is no adequate representation of those people in the work force, there must be some problems with the education system. Unfortunatley, in India government never seems to address real issues involved.

Critics of the Mandal Commission argue that it is unfair to accord people special privileges on the basis of caste, even in order to redress traditional caste discrimination. They argue that those that deserve the seat through merit will be at a disadvantage. They reflect on the repercussions of unqualified candidates assuming critical positions in society such as that of Doctors, engineers etc. As the debate on OBC reservaions spreads, a few interesting facts which raise pertinent question today. To begin with, do we have a clear idea what porportion of our population is OBC? According to the Mandal Commission (1980) it is 52 percent. According to 2001 census, out of India's population of 1,028,737,436 the Scheduled castes comprises 166,635,700 and Scheduled Tribe 84,326,240, that is 16.2% and 8.2% respectively. There is no data on OBCs in the census.<ref name=Indiacensus>{{cite web
| url = http://www.censusindia.gov.in/census_online/population.html
| title = Population
| publisher = Registrar General & Census Commissioner, India
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}} </ref> However, according to National Sample Survey's 1999-2000 round around 36 per cent of the country's population is defined as belonging to the Other Backward Classes (OBC). The proportion falls to 32 per cent on excluding Muslim OBCs. A survey conducted in 1998 by National Family Health Statistics (NFHS) puts the proportion of non-Muslim OBCs as 29.8 per cent.<ref name=OBCdata1>{{cite web
| date = 8 May, 2006
| url = http://www.southasianmedia.net/cnn.cfm?id=292238&category=Social%20Sectors&Country=INDIA
| title = 36% population is OBC, not 52%
| format =
| work =
| pages =
| publisher = South Asian Free Media Association
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}}</ref> The NSSO data also shows that already 23.5 per cent of college seats are occupied by OBCs. That's just 8.6 per cent short of their share of population according to the same survey. Other arguments include that entrenching the separate legal status of OBCs and SC/STs will perpetuate caste differentiation and encourage competition among communities at the expense of national unity. They believe that only a small new élite of educated [[Dalit (outcaste)|Dalit]]s, [[Adivasi]]s, and OBCs benefit from reservations, and that such measures do nothing to lift the mass of people out of backwardness and poverty.

==Notes==
<references/>

==References==

*Ramaiah, A (6 June, 1992). "[http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf|Identifying Other Backward Classes.]" ([[PDF]]) pp. 1203–1207. Economic and Political Weekly. URL accessed on [[27 May]] [[2006]].

==See also==
*[[Affirmative action]]
*[[Reverse discrimination]]

==External links==
*[http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-ravat180406.htm Countercurrents]
*[http://www.youth4equality.org/ Youth for Equality]
*[http://www.voiceagainstreservation.blogspot.com Voice Against Reservation]
*[http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/06/24/stories/2003062400731000.htm Diluting Mandal]-A take from S.S.Gill,Secretary,Mandal Commission.
*[http://sify.com/itihaas/fullstory.php?id=13383406 The Mandal Commission].
*[http://www.loyalmart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3#3/ Poll on Reservation in India]

*[http://www.gruhalaxmi.com/articles/3/1/I-support-reservations-and-respected-premji-is-dead-wrong-in-his-rejection/ Supporting reservations]
*[http://stop-reservations.blogspot.com/ Stop Reservations]
{{Reservation in India}}

[[Category:Politics of India]]

Mandal Commission

2006-06-16T04:10:20Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

The '''Mandal Commission''' in [[India]] was established in [[1979]] by the [[Janata Party]] government under [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Morarji Desai]] with a mandate to "identify the socially or educationally backward."<ref name="Bhattacharya"> Bhattacharya, Amit. {{cite web|url=http://www.theotherindia.org/caste/who-are-the-obcs.html|title="Who are the OBCs?"|accessdate=2006-04-19}} ''Times of India'', April 8, 2006.</ref> It was headed by [[Parliament of India|Indian parliamentarian]] [[B.P. Mandal|Bindeshwari Prasad Mandal]] to consider the question of seat reservations and quotas for people to redress [[caste]] discrimination, and used eleven social, economic, and educational indicators to determine "backwardness." In [[1980]], the commission's report affirmed the [[affirmative action]] practice under Indian law whereby members of lower castes (known as [[Other Backward Class]]es and [[Scheduled Castes and Tribes]]) were given exclusive access to a certain portion of government jobs and slots in public universities, and recommended changes to these [[Racial quota|quotas]], increasing them by 27% to 49.5%{{ref|percent}}. The report, released in 1980, was the source of great controversy, and its implementation in 1990 was the ultimate cause of India's [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Vishwanath Pratap Singh]]'s resignation.

== Background ==
Under the [[1950]] [[Constitution of India]], 15% of educational and civil service seats were reserved for "scheduled castes" and 7.5% for "scheduled tribes." The first backward classes commission, headed by [[Kaka Kalekar]], submitted its report in 1955.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

In 1963, the Supreme Court of India ruled that total reservations could not exceed 50%.

==Setting up of Mandal Commission==
The plan to set up another commission was taken by the Morarji Desai government in 1978. The decision was made official by the president on January 1, 1979. The commission is popularly known as the Mandal Commission, its chairman being [[B.P. Mandal]].

==Criteria to identify OBC==
The Mandal Commission adopted various methods and techniques to collect the necessary data and evidence. The commission adopted 11 criteria
which could be grouped under three major headings: social, educational and economic in order to identify OBCs.<ref name=Ramaiah>{{cite web
| last = Ramaiah
| first = A
| date = 6 June, 1992
| url = http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf
| title = Identifying Other Backward Classes
| format = PDF
| work =
| pages = 1203-1207
| publisher = Economic and Political Weekly
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
| accessyear =
| curly =
}}</ref>
===Social===
#Castes/classes considered as socially backward by others.
#Castes/classes which mainly depend on manual labour for their livelihood.
#Castes/classes where at least 25 per cent females and 10 per cent males above the state average get married at an age below 17 years in rural areas and at least 10 per cent females and 5 per cent males do so in urban areas.
#Castes/classes where participation of females in work is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Educational===
#Castes/classes where the number of children in the age group of 5-15 years who never attended school is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the rate of student drop-out in the age group of 5-15 years is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes amongst whom the proportion of matriculates is at least 25 per cent below the state average.

===Economic===
#Castes/classes where the average value of family assets is at least 25 per cent below the state average.
#Castes/classes where the number of families living in kuccha houses is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the source of drinking water is beyond half a kilometer for more than 50 per cent of the households.
#Castes/classes where the number of households having taken consumption loans is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Weightage===
Of these three groups, separate weightage was given to indicators of each group. A weightage of three points each was given to all the social indicators. Educational indicators were given two points each. And economic indicators were given one point each. All castes which had a score of 50 per cent or above by applying the score were listed as socially and educationally backward and the rest were treated as ‘advanced’.

==Findings and report==

The commission estimated that 54% of the total population (excluding SCs and STs), belonging to 3,743 different castes and communities were ‘backward’.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/> Figures of caste-wise population are not available beyond 1931. So the commission used 1931 census data to calculate the number of OBCs. The population of Hindu OBCs was derived by subtracting from the total population of Hindus, the population of SC and ST and that of forward Hindu castes and communities, and it worked out to be 52 per cent.<ref name=Ramaiah/> Assuming that roughly the proportion of OBCs amongst non-Hindus was of the same order as amongst the Hindus, population of non-Hindu OBCs was also considered as 52 per cent.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

==Recommendations==
The report of the commission was submitted in December 1980. It called for reserving 27% of all services and public-sector undertakings under the Central government and 27% of all admissions to institutions of higher education (except in states that have reserved higher percentages) for Other Backward classes (OBCs), over and above the existing 22.5% reservation for SCs and STs.

The recommendations can be represented in a gist form as follows:<ref name=Ramaiah/>

The population of OBCs which includes both Hindus and non-Hindus is around 52 per cent of the total population. However only 27 per cent of reservation was recommended owing to the legal constraint that the total quantum of reservation should not exceed 50 percent. States which have already introduced reservation for OBC exceeding 27 per cent will not be affected by this recommendation. With this general recommendation the commission proposed the following over-all scheme of reservation for OBC:
#Candidates belonging to OBC recruited on the basis of merit in an open competition should not be adjusted against their reservation quota of 27 per cent.
#The above reservation should also be made applicable to promotion quota at all levels.
#Reserved quota remaining unfilled should be carried forward for a period of three years and de-reserved thereafter.
#Relaxation in the upper age limit for direct recruitment should be extended to the candidates of OBC in the same manner as done in the case of SCs and STs.
#A roster system for each category of posts should be adopted by the concerned authorities in the same manner as presently done in respect of SC and ST candidates.

These recommendations in total are applicable to all recruitment to public sector undertakings both under the central and state governments, as also to nationalised banks. All private sector undertakings which have received financial assistance from the government in one form or other should also be obliged to recruit personnel on the aforesaid basis. All universities and affiliated colleges should also be covered by the above scheme of
reservation. Although education is considered an important factor to bring a desired social change, "educational reform" was not within the terms of reference of this commission. To promote literacy the following measures were suggested:
#An intensive time-bound programme for adult education should be launched in selected pockets with high concentration of OBC population;
# Residential schools should be set up in these areas for backward class students to provide a climate specially conducive to serious studies. All facilities in these schools including board and lodging should be provided free of cost to attract students from poor and backward homes;
#Separate hostels for OBC students with above facilities will have to be provided;
#Vocational training was considered imperative.
#It was recommended that seats should be reserved for OBC students in all scientific, technical and professional institutions run by the central as well as state governments. The quantum of reservation should be the same as in the government services, i e, 27 per cent.

== Protest ==
A decade after the commission gave its report, [[V.P. Singh]], the Prime Minister at the time, tried to implement its recommendations in 1989. The criticism was sharp and colleges across the country held massive protests against it. Soon after, [[Rajiv Goswami]], student of Delhi University, self-immolated himself in protest of the government's actions. His act further sparked a series of [[self-immolation]]s by other college students and led to a formidable movement against job reservations for [[Backward Castes]] in [[India]].

== Mordern Impacts ==

Due to the reservation policy, there has been an increase in the number of so called Forward Caste people leaving India to countries with equal oppurtunities.

== Debate ==
{{unreferenced|article's section called Debate}}
===Arguments in favor===
* Govt should open Kendriya Vidyalaya / Navodaya Vidyalaya quality school all over India to create a level playing field, till the it should continue with reservation policy.{{fact}}
* Govt should stop private Medical colleges from imparting PG courses.{{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in jobs for Muslims as their candidature is rejected at resume shortlisting/interview level{{fact}} and only brilliant Muslims (like President APJ Abdul Kalam, Azim Premji etc) are able to clear this invisible hurdle (there are Muslims in corporate world as well but one can notice that they are equally competant){{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC's as well otherwise their candidature is rejected at interview.{{fact}}
* If not formal reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC/Muslims then govt should extend incentives like reduced taxes to private sector.{{fact}}
* Govt should notice that private sector only puts dilution of quality of high tech jobs but there are ample unskilled/semiskilled jobs as well but even those have inadequate Dalit/Muslim/MBC representation.{{fact}}
* Govt should create a law{{fact}} to do away with near 100% Brahmin reservation in post of Temple Pujari, post of Sankaracharya (which is not a law, however, but observed due to religious bias).

Supporters of the Mandal Commission argue that national unity should be on the basis of justice for all castes, and that both traditional ''varnashram'' and post-independence Congress Raj had worked only to the benefit of [[brahmin]]s and other privileged minorities.{{fact}} They also argue that reservations are essential to the uplift and empowerment of people from less privileged castes.

Here it must be kept in mind that, Reservation as we see it today, was not what the dalits of India wanted. The Simon Commission had agreed to the "Separate Electorate" demand of Dr. Ambedkar. Mahatma Gandhi in protest decided to fast unto death because he was of the view, that this will create further divisions between the untouchables and upper cast Hindus.

Reservation was agreed upon by Dr. Ambedkar in the [[Poona Pact]]. However Dr. Ambedkar felt that reservations should exist only for a fixed period of time, namely 10 years after independence.

===Opposition===
The opponents of the issue argue:
* . . .that allocating [[racial quota|quotas]] on the basis of [[caste]] is a form of [[racial discrimination]] which is contrary to the right to [[equality]].
*. . . that as a consequence, legislation for providing reservation for [[Christians]] and [[Muslim]] religious minorities in all government education institutions will be introduced <ref>[http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?category=National&template=reservation&slug=Quota+for+Tamil+Nadu+religious+minorities&id=88392&callid=1 Quota for Tamil Nadu religious minorities]</ref>, which is contrary to the ideas of [[secularism]], and is a form of discrimination on the basis of religion.
* . . .that most often, only the economically sound people (and rather rich) from the so-called lower castes will make use of most of the reserved the seats, thus making the aim a total failure.<ref name=creamybackward>{{cite journal
| last = Srinivas
| first = M.N.
| year = 1997
| month = August
| title = The pangs of change
| journal = Frontline
|Publisher = The Hindu
| volume = 14
| issue = 16
| pages =
| url = http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1416/14160670.htm
| format =
| accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref> Political parties know reservations are no way to improve the lot of the poor and the backward. They support them because of self-interest of the “creamy layer”, who use the reservations to further their own family interests, and as a political flag of ‘achievement’ during election campaigns.<ref name=slrao>{{cite news
|first = S.L.
|last = Rao
|url = http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060605/asp/opinion/story_6293323.asp
|title = TOO MANY BOSSES - The UPA has a cabinet with many insubordinate ministers
|work =
|publisher = The Telegraph
|date = 5 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-05
}}</ref> In fact, several studies show that the OBC class is quite comparable with the general caste in terms of annual per capita consumption expenditure, and the top strata of OBC is ahead in a host of consumption areas.<ref name=apcce>{{cite news
|first = Shailesh
|last = Dobhal
|url = http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1606542.cms
|title = In consumption, OBCs are no longer backwards
|work =
|publisher = The Economic Times, Times Internet Limited
|date = 2 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>
* . . .that the quality of these elite institutes may go down, because merit is severly being compromised by reserving seats for certain caste-based communities.<ref name=qualitycompromise>{{cite news
|url = http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060428/edit.htm#1
|title = Divisive quota : Education alone can empower
|work =
|publisher = The Tribune
|date = 28 April, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref>
* . . .that there are no efforts made to give proper primary education to really deprived classes,<ref name=creamybackward/> so there is no need to reserve seats for higher studies. The government schools in India have absolutely no comparison to the public schools in the developed countries, and only about 65% of the Indian polupation is literate<ref name=literacyrate>{{cite web
|url = http://www.censusindia.net/results/provindia3.html
|title = Literacy Rate: India
|work =
|publisher = Registrar General and Census Commissioner, India
|date =
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>, the ''functional literacy'' being estimated to be even as low as only 34% of the population{{fact}}. The critics argue that "reservation" only in higher institutions and jobs, without improving primary and secondary education, cannot solve this problem.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that the government is dividing people on the basis of castes for political advantages.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
* . . .that this can also lead to prolonged reservation system indefinitely.
* . . .that, the caste system is kept alive through these measures. Instead of coming up with alternative innovative ideas which make sure equal representation at the same time making the caste system irrelevant, the decision is only fortifying the caste system.
* . . .that the autonomy of the educational institutes are lost.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that not everyone from the so-called upper class are rich, and not all from so called lower classes are poor.<ref name=slrao/>
*...that this policy of the Congress will create a huge unrest in the Indian society.<ref name=qualitycompromise/><ref name=unrestetc>{{cite news
|first = S
|last = Ramchandran
|url = http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/25/stories/2006042504140800.htm
|title = India Inc., liberalisation, and social responsibility
|work =
|publisher = The Hindu
|date = April 25, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref> Providing quotas on the basis of caste and not on the basis of merit will deter the determination of many educated and deserving students of India.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
*...that this policy of the government will also increase the phenomenon of Brain Drain from India and the under graduates and graduates will start moving to foreign universities for higher education.This will be in such a case a great set back and will have the most devastating affects on Indian education and economy{{fact}}.
*...that multi-national companies will be deterred by this action of the government,and foreign investment in India may dry down, hurting the growth of the Indian economy.<ref name=slrao/> Doubtless, urgent actions to improve the lot of the majority, which has not benefited from development — not achieved after 55 years of reservations for scheduled castes — are essential. But this must not hazard improving the economy’s competitiveness in a very competitive world.<ref name=slrao/>
*... there are already talks of reservations in the private sector.<ref name=slrao/> If even after providing so many facilities to reserved categories during education, if there is no adequate representation of those people in the work force, there must be some problems with the education system. Unfortunatley, in India government never seems to address real issues involved.

Critics of the Mandal Commission argue that it is unfair to accord people special privileges on the basis of caste, even in order to redress traditional caste discrimination. They argue that those that deserve the seat through merit will be at a disadvantage. They reflect on the repercussions of unqualified candidates assuming critical positions in society such as that of Doctors, engineers etc. As the debate on OBC reservaions spreads, a few interesting facts which raise pertinent question today. To begin with, do we have a clear idea what porportion of our population is OBC? According to the Mandal Commission (1980) it is 52 percent. According to 2001 census, out of India's population of 1,028,737,436 the Scheduled castes comprises 166,635,700 and Scheduled Tribe 84,326,240, that is 16.2% and 8.2% respectively. There is no data on OBCs in the census.<ref name=Indiacensus>{{cite web
| url = http://www.censusindia.gov.in/census_online/population.html
| title = Population
| publisher = Registrar General & Census Commissioner, India
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}} </ref> However, according to National Sample Survey's 1999-2000 round around 36 per cent of the country's population is defined as belonging to the Other Backward Classes (OBC). The proportion falls to 32 per cent on excluding Muslim OBCs. A survey conducted in 1998 by National Family Health Statistics (NFHS) puts the proportion of non-Muslim OBCs as 29.8 per cent.<ref name=OBCdata1>{{cite web
| date = 8 May, 2006
| url = http://www.southasianmedia.net/cnn.cfm?id=292238&category=Social%20Sectors&Country=INDIA
| title = 36% population is OBC, not 52%
| format =
| work =
| pages =
| publisher = South Asian Free Media Association
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}}</ref> The NSSO data also shows that already 23.5 per cent of college seats are occupied by OBCs. That's just 8.6 per cent short of their share of population according to the same survey. Other arguments include that entrenching the separate legal status of OBCs and SC/STs will perpetuate caste differentiation and encourage competition among communities at the expense of national unity. They believe that only a small new élite of educated [[Dalit (outcaste)|Dalit]]s, [[Adivasi]]s, and OBCs benefit from reservations, and that such measures do nothing to lift the mass of people out of backwardness and poverty.

==Notes==
<references/>

==References==

*Ramaiah, A (6 June, 1992). "[http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf|Identifying Other Backward Classes.]" ([[PDF]]) pp. 1203–1207. Economic and Political Weekly. URL accessed on [[27 May]] [[2006]].

==See also==
*[[Affirmative action]]
*[[Reverse discrimination]]

==External links==
*[http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-ravat180406.htm Countercurrents]
*[http://www.youth4equality.org/ Youth for Equality]
*[http://www.voiceagainstreservation.blogspot.com Voice Against Reservation]
*[http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/06/24/stories/2003062400731000.htm Diluting Mandal]-A take from S.S.Gill,Secretary,Mandal Commission.
*[http://sify.com/itihaas/fullstory.php?id=13383406 The Mandal Commission].
*[http://www.loyalmart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3#3/ Poll on Reservation in India]

*[http://www.gruhalaxmi.com/articles/3/1/I-support-reservations-and-respected-premji-is-dead-wrong-in-his-rejection/ Supporting reservations]
*[http://stop-reservations.blogspot.com/ Stop Reservations]
{{Reservation in India}}

[[Category:Politics of India]]

Mandal Commission

2006-06-16T04:08:05Z

Sathyan Bhrama: /* Arguments in favor */

The '''Mandal Commission''' in [[India]] was established in [[1979]] by the [[Janata Party]] government under [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Morarji Desai]] with a mandate to "identify the socially or educationally backward."<ref name="Bhattacharya"> Bhattacharya, Amit. {{cite web|url=http://www.theotherindia.org/caste/who-are-the-obcs.html|title="Who are the OBCs?"|accessdate=2006-04-19}} ''Times of India'', April 8, 2006.</ref> It was headed by [[Parliament of India|Indian parliamentarian]] [[B.P. Mandal|Bindeshwari Prasad Mandal]] to consider the question of seat reservations and quotas for people to redress [[caste]] discrimination, and used eleven social, economic, and educational indicators to determine "backwardness." In [[1980]], the commission's report affirmed the [[affirmative action]] practice under Indian law whereby members of lower castes (known as [[Other Backward Class]]es and [[Scheduled Castes and Tribes]]) were given exclusive access to a certain portion of government jobs and slots in public universities, and recommended changes to these [[Racial quota|quotas]], increasing them by 27% to 49.5%{{ref|percent}}. The report, released in 1980, was the source of great controversy, and its implementation in 1990 was the ultimate cause of India's [[Prime Minister of India|Prime Minister]] [[Vishwanath Pratap Singh]]'s resignation.

== Background ==
Under the [[1950]] [[Constitution of India]], 15% of educational and civil service seats were reserved for "scheduled castes" and 7.5% for "scheduled tribes." The first backward classes commission, headed by [[Kaka Kalekar]], submitted its report in 1955.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

In 1963, the Supreme Court of India ruled that total reservations could not exceed 50%.

==Setting up of Mandal Commission==
The plan to set up another commission was taken by the Morarji Desai government in 1978. The decision was made official by the president on January 1, 1979. The commission is popularly known as the Mandal Commission, its chairman being [[B.P. Mandal]].

==Criteria to identify OBC==
The Mandal Commission adopted various methods and techniques to collect the necessary data and evidence. The commission adopted 11 criteria
which could be grouped under three major headings: social, educational and economic in order to identify OBCs.<ref name=Ramaiah>{{cite web
| last = Ramaiah
| first = A
| date = 6 June, 1992
| url = http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf
| title = Identifying Other Backward Classes
| format = PDF
| work =
| pages = 1203-1207
| publisher = Economic and Political Weekly
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
| accessyear =
| curly =
}}</ref>
===Social===
#Castes/classes considered as socially backward by others.
#Castes/classes which mainly depend on manual labour for their livelihood.
#Castes/classes where at least 25 per cent females and 10 per cent males above the state average get married at an age below 17 years in rural areas and at least 10 per cent females and 5 per cent males do so in urban areas.
#Castes/classes where participation of females in work is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Educational===
#Castes/classes where the number of children in the age group of 5-15 years who never attended school is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the rate of student drop-out in the age group of 5-15 years is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes amongst whom the proportion of matriculates is at least 25 per cent below the state average.

===Economic===
#Castes/classes where the average value of family assets is at least 25 per cent below the state average.
#Castes/classes where the number of families living in kuccha houses is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
#Castes/classes where the source of drinking water is beyond half a kilometer for more than 50 per cent of the households.
#Castes/classes where the number of households having taken consumption loans is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

===Weightage===
Of these three groups, separate weightage was given to indicators of each group. A weightage of three points each was given to all the social indicators. Educational indicators were given two points each. And economic indicators were given one point each. All castes which had a score of 50 per cent or above by applying the score were listed as socially and educationally backward and the rest were treated as ‘advanced’.

==Findings and report==

The commission estimated that 54% of the total population (excluding SCs and STs), belonging to 3,743 different castes and communities were ‘backward’.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/> Figures of caste-wise population are not available beyond 1931. So the commission used 1931 census data to calculate the number of OBCs. The population of Hindu OBCs was derived by subtracting from the total population of Hindus, the population of SC and ST and that of forward Hindu castes and communities, and it worked out to be 52 per cent.<ref name=Ramaiah/> Assuming that roughly the proportion of OBCs amongst non-Hindus was of the same order as amongst the Hindus, population of non-Hindu OBCs was also considered as 52 per cent.<ref name="Bhattacharya"/>

==Recommendations==
The report of the commission was submitted in December 1980. It called for reserving 27% of all services and public-sector undertakings under the Central government and 27% of all admissions to institutions of higher education (except in states that have reserved higher percentages) for Other Backward classes (OBCs), over and above the existing 22.5% reservation for SCs and STs.

The recommendations can be represented in a gist form as follows:<ref name=Ramaiah/>

The population of OBCs which includes both Hindus and non-Hindus is around 52 per cent of the total population. However only 27 per cent of reservation was recommended owing to the legal constraint that the total quantum of reservation should not exceed 50 percent. States which have already introduced reservation for OBC exceeding 27 per cent will not be affected by this recommendation. With this general recommendation the commission proposed the following over-all scheme of reservation for OBC:
#Candidates belonging to OBC recruited on the basis of merit in an open competition should not be adjusted against their reservation quota of 27 per cent.
#The above reservation should also be made applicable to promotion quota at all levels.
#Reserved quota remaining unfilled should be carried forward for a period of three years and de-reserved thereafter.
#Relaxation in the upper age limit for direct recruitment should be extended to the candidates of OBC in the same manner as done in the case of SCs and STs.
#A roster system for each category of posts should be adopted by the concerned authorities in the same manner as presently done in respect of SC and ST candidates.

These recommendations in total are applicable to all recruitment to public sector undertakings both under the central and state governments, as also to nationalised banks. All private sector undertakings which have received financial assistance from the government in one form or other should also be obliged to recruit personnel on the aforesaid basis. All universities and affiliated colleges should also be covered by the above scheme of
reservation. Although education is considered an important factor to bring a desired social change, "educational reform" was not within the terms of reference of this commission. To promote literacy the following measures were suggested:
#An intensive time-bound programme for adult education should be launched in selected pockets with high concentration of OBC population;
# Residential schools should be set up in these areas for backward class students to provide a climate specially conducive to serious studies. All facilities in these schools including board and lodging should be provided free of cost to attract students from poor and backward homes;
#Separate hostels for OBC students with above facilities will have to be provided;
#Vocational training was considered imperative.
#It was recommended that seats should be reserved for OBC students in all scientific, technical and professional institutions run by the central as well as state governments. The quantum of reservation should be the same as in the government services, i e, 27 per cent.

== Protest ==
A decade after the commission gave its report, [[V.P. Singh]], the Prime Minister at the time, tried to implement its recommendations in 1989. The criticism was sharp and colleges across the country held massive protests against it. Soon after, [[Rajiv Goswami]], student of Delhi University, self-immolated himself in protest of the government's actions. His act further sparked a series of [[self-immolation]]s by other college students and led to a formidable movement against job reservations for [[Backward Castes]] in [[India]].

== Debate ==
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===Arguments in favor===
* Govt should open Kendriya Vidyalaya / Navodaya Vidyalaya quality school all over India to create a level playing field, till the it should continue with reservation policy.{{fact}}
* Govt should stop private Medical colleges from imparting PG courses.{{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in jobs for Muslims as their candidature is rejected at resume shortlisting/interview level{{fact}} and only brilliant Muslims (like President APJ Abdul Kalam, Azim Premji etc) are able to clear this invisible hurdle (there are Muslims in corporate world as well but one can notice that they are equally competant){{fact}}
* Govt should introduce reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC's as well otherwise their candidature is rejected at interview.{{fact}}
* If not formal reservation in private sector for Dalits/MBC/Muslims then govt should extend incentives like reduced taxes to private sector.{{fact}}
* Govt should notice that private sector only puts dilution of quality of high tech jobs but there are ample unskilled/semiskilled jobs as well but even those have inadequate Dalit/Muslim/MBC representation.{{fact}}
* Govt should create a law{{fact}} to do away with near 100% Brahmin reservation in post of Temple Pujari, post of Sankaracharya (which is not a law, however, but observed due to religious bias).

Supporters of the Mandal Commission argue that national unity should be on the basis of justice for all castes, and that both traditional ''varnashram'' and post-independence Congress Raj had worked only to the benefit of [[brahmin]]s and other privileged minorities.{{fact}} They also argue that reservations are essential to the uplift and empowerment of people from less privileged castes.

Here it must be kept in mind that, Reservation as we see it today, was not what the dalits of India wanted. The Simon Commission had agreed to the "Separate Electorate" demand of Dr. Ambedkar. Mahatma Gandhi in protest decided to fast unto death because he was of the view, that this will create further divisions between the untouchables and upper cast Hindus.

Reservation was agreed upon by Dr. Ambedkar in the [[Poona Pact]]. However Dr. Ambedkar felt that reservations should exist only for a fixed period of time, namely 10 years after independence.

===Opposition===
The opponents of the issue argue:
* . . .that allocating [[racial quota|quotas]] on the basis of [[caste]] is a form of [[racial discrimination]] which is contrary to the right to [[equality]].
*. . . that as a consequence, legislation for providing reservation for [[Christians]] and [[Muslim]] religious minorities in all government education institutions will be introduced <ref>[http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?category=National&template=reservation&slug=Quota+for+Tamil+Nadu+religious+minorities&id=88392&callid=1 Quota for Tamil Nadu religious minorities]</ref>, which is contrary to the ideas of [[secularism]], and is a form of discrimination on the basis of religion.
* . . .that most often, only the economically sound people (and rather rich) from the so-called lower castes will make use of most of the reserved the seats, thus making the aim a total failure.<ref name=creamybackward>{{cite journal
| last = Srinivas
| first = M.N.
| year = 1997
| month = August
| title = The pangs of change
| journal = Frontline
|Publisher = The Hindu
| volume = 14
| issue = 16
| pages =
| url = http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1416/14160670.htm
| format =
| accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref> Political parties know reservations are no way to improve the lot of the poor and the backward. They support them because of self-interest of the “creamy layer”, who use the reservations to further their own family interests, and as a political flag of ‘achievement’ during election campaigns.<ref name=slrao>{{cite news
|first = S.L.
|last = Rao
|url = http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060605/asp/opinion/story_6293323.asp
|title = TOO MANY BOSSES - The UPA has a cabinet with many insubordinate ministers
|work =
|publisher = The Telegraph
|date = 5 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-05
}}</ref> In fact, several studies show that the OBC class is quite comparable with the general caste in terms of annual per capita consumption expenditure, and the top strata of OBC is ahead in a host of consumption areas.<ref name=apcce>{{cite news
|first = Shailesh
|last = Dobhal
|url = http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1606542.cms
|title = In consumption, OBCs are no longer backwards
|work =
|publisher = The Economic Times, Times Internet Limited
|date = 2 June, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>
* . . .that the quality of these elite institutes may go down, because merit is severly being compromised by reserving seats for certain caste-based communities.<ref name=qualitycompromise>{{cite news
|url = http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060428/edit.htm#1
|title = Divisive quota : Education alone can empower
|work =
|publisher = The Tribune
|date = 28 April, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-05-24
}}</ref>
* . . .that there are no efforts made to give proper primary education to really deprived classes,<ref name=creamybackward/> so there is no need to reserve seats for higher studies. The government schools in India have absolutely no comparison to the public schools in the developed countries, and only about 65% of the Indian polupation is literate<ref name=literacyrate>{{cite web
|url = http://www.censusindia.net/results/provindia3.html
|title = Literacy Rate: India
|work =
|publisher = Registrar General and Census Commissioner, India
|date =
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref>, the ''functional literacy'' being estimated to be even as low as only 34% of the population{{fact}}. The critics argue that "reservation" only in higher institutions and jobs, without improving primary and secondary education, cannot solve this problem.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that the government is dividing people on the basis of castes for political advantages.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
* . . .that this can also lead to prolonged reservation system indefinitely.
* . . .that, the caste system is kept alive through these measures. Instead of coming up with alternative innovative ideas which make sure equal representation at the same time making the caste system irrelevant, the decision is only fortifying the caste system.
* . . .that the autonomy of the educational institutes are lost.<ref name=slrao/>
* . . .that not everyone from the so-called upper class are rich, and not all from so called lower classes are poor.<ref name=slrao/>
*...that this policy of the Congress will create a huge unrest in the Indian society.<ref name=qualitycompromise/><ref name=unrestetc>{{cite news
|first = S
|last = Ramchandran
|url = http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/25/stories/2006042504140800.htm
|title = India Inc., liberalisation, and social responsibility
|work =
|publisher = The Hindu
|date = April 25, 2006
|accessdate = 2006-06-02
}}</ref> Providing quotas on the basis of caste and not on the basis of merit will deter the determination of many educated and deserving students of India.<ref name=qualitycompromise/>
*...that this policy of the government will also increase the phenomenon of Brain Drain from India and the under graduates and graduates will start moving to foreign universities for higher education.This will be in such a case a great set back and will have the most devastating affects on Indian education and economy{{fact}}.
*...that multi-national companies will be deterred by this action of the government,and foreign investment in India may dry down, hurting the growth of the Indian economy.<ref name=slrao/> Doubtless, urgent actions to improve the lot of the majority, which has not benefited from development — not achieved after 55 years of reservations for scheduled castes — are essential. But this must not hazard improving the economy’s competitiveness in a very competitive world.<ref name=slrao/>
*... there are already talks of reservations in the private sector.<ref name=slrao/> If even after providing so many facilities to reserved categories during education, if there is no adequate representation of those people in the work force, there must be some problems with the education system. Unfortunatley, in India government never seems to address real issues involved.

Critics of the Mandal Commission argue that it is unfair to accord people special privileges on the basis of caste, even in order to redress traditional caste discrimination. They argue that those that deserve the seat through merit will be at a disadvantage. They reflect on the repercussions of unqualified candidates assuming critical positions in society such as that of Doctors, engineers etc. As the debate on OBC reservaions spreads, a few interesting facts which raise pertinent question today. To begin with, do we have a clear idea what porportion of our population is OBC? According to the Mandal Commission (1980) it is 52 percent. According to 2001 census, out of India's population of 1,028,737,436 the Scheduled castes comprises 166,635,700 and Scheduled Tribe 84,326,240, that is 16.2% and 8.2% respectively. There is no data on OBCs in the census.<ref name=Indiacensus>{{cite web
| url = http://www.censusindia.gov.in/census_online/population.html
| title = Population
| publisher = Registrar General & Census Commissioner, India
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}} </ref> However, according to National Sample Survey's 1999-2000 round around 36 per cent of the country's population is defined as belonging to the Other Backward Classes (OBC). The proportion falls to 32 per cent on excluding Muslim OBCs. A survey conducted in 1998 by National Family Health Statistics (NFHS) puts the proportion of non-Muslim OBCs as 29.8 per cent.<ref name=OBCdata1>{{cite web
| date = 8 May, 2006
| url = http://www.southasianmedia.net/cnn.cfm?id=292238&category=Social%20Sectors&Country=INDIA
| title = 36% population is OBC, not 52%
| format =
| work =
| pages =
| publisher = South Asian Free Media Association
| language =
| accessdate = 2006-05-27
}}</ref> The NSSO data also shows that already 23.5 per cent of college seats are occupied by OBCs. That's just 8.6 per cent short of their share of population according to the same survey. Other arguments include that entrenching the separate legal status of OBCs and SC/STs will perpetuate caste differentiation and encourage competition among communities at the expense of national unity. They believe that only a small new élite of educated [[Dalit (outcaste)|Dalit]]s, [[Adivasi]]s, and OBCs benefit from reservations, and that such measures do nothing to lift the mass of people out of backwardness and poverty.

==Notes==
<references/>

==References==

*Ramaiah, A (6 June, 1992). "[http://www.tiss.edu/downloads/ppapers/pp1.pdf|Identifying Other Backward Classes.]" ([[PDF]]) pp. 1203–1207. Economic and Political Weekly. URL accessed on [[27 May]] [[2006]].

==See also==
*[[Affirmative action]]
*[[Reverse discrimination]]

==External links==
*[http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-ravat180406.htm Countercurrents]
*[http://www.youth4equality.org/ Youth for Equality]
*[http://www.voiceagainstreservation.blogspot.com Voice Against Reservation]
*[http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/06/24/stories/2003062400731000.htm Diluting Mandal]-A take from S.S.Gill,Secretary,Mandal Commission.
*[http://sify.com/itihaas/fullstory.php?id=13383406 The Mandal Commission].
*[http://www.loyalmart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3#3/ Poll on Reservation in India]

*[http://www.gruhalaxmi.com/articles/3/1/I-support-reservations-and-respected-premji-is-dead-wrong-in-his-rejection/ Supporting reservations]
*[http://stop-reservations.blogspot.com/ Stop Reservations]
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Islam in India

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[[Islam]] is the second-largest religion in [[India]] (after [[Hinduism]] - 80.5%), where [[Muslims]] number around 137 million (13.4%)<ref>{{
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. India has the third-largest population of Muslims in the world after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]].

Since its introduction to India, Islam has made religious, artistic, philosophical, culture, social and political contributions to Indian history, heritage and life. It has also been involved in many social, religious and political conflicts.

==Arrival of Islam==
Contrary to general belief, Islam came to India long before [[Muslim invasions of India]]. Islamic influence first came to be felt in the early 7th century with the advent of Arab traders.Trade relations between Arabia and Indian sub-continent are very ancient. Arab traders used visit [[Malabar]] region to trade which was a link between the ports of South and South East Asia, even before Islam had been established in Arabia. According to Historians Elliot and Dowson in their book [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], the first ship bearing Muslim travelers was seen on the Indian coast as early as [[630]] AD. H.G. Rawlinson, In his book Ancient and Medieval History of India<ref>ISBN 8186050795 Ancient and Medieval History of India]</ref> claims the first Arab Muslims settled on the Indian coast in the last part of the 7th century AD. This fact is corroborated, by J. Sturrock in his South Kanara and Madras Districts Manuals<ref>Sturrock, J.,South Canara and Madras District Manual (2 vols., Madras, 1894-1895)</ref>, and also by Haridas Bhattacharya in cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV.<ref>ISBN 8185843058 Cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV</ref>It was with the advent of Islam that the Arabs became a prominent cultural race in the world. The Arab merchants and traders became the carriers of the new religion and they propagated it wherever they went<ref>http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm -Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>. Arab Muslim traders attracted the people to Islam by their behavior in the contact, honesty in trade, discipline in dealings and peaceful religious and pious life A number of Indians living in the coastal areas of [[Kerala]] were moved by the principles of Islam and converted.

King [[Cheraman Perumal]] is said to be the first convert to Islam in India, Legend has it that a group of [[Muhammad]]’s [[Sahaba|companions]] visited [[Kodangallur]], Cheraman Perumal Bhaskara Ravi Varma, then the [[Chera]] ruler, had witnessed a miraculous happening, the sudden splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of Muhammad, and learning on inquiry that this was a symbol of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, Soon after, Cheruman Perumal travelled to Makkah, embraced Islam, and accepted the name Thajudeen. On his way back to India he died in [[Salala]] in the [[Sultanate of Oman]], On his deathbed he is said to have authorized some of his Arab companions to go back to his kingdom to spread Islam. Accordingly, a group of Arabs led by [[Malik Bin Deenar]] and Malik bin Habib arrived in north Kerala.<ref>[http://www.iosworld.org/interview_cheramul.htm HINDU PATRON OF MUSLIM HERITAGE SITE]</ref> <ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref>[http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/23/stories/2005072306490500.htm. Hindu Daily- Kalam to visit oldest mosque in sub-continent]</ref> The historical veracity of the Cheraman’s alleged conversion to Islam is disputable, As none of noted historians speaks of the story of the of recognized historians nor corroborated by any contemporary record or evidence. This story appeared in the book ''Keralolpathi'' Origin of kerala, origianaly in palm leaves, first published by [[Hermann Gundert]] in [[1843]]. The reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions.<ref> [..reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions http://naturemagics.com/kerala_history/kerala_history.html]</ref>

The first Indian mosque was built in during [[629]] A.D, at the behest of [[Cheraman Perumal]], during the life time of [[Muhammad]](c. [[571]] – [[632]])in [[Kodungallur]] by [[Malik Bin Deenar]].it is belived to be World’s second oldest mosque.The original Hindu architectural scheme of the mosque has been retained intact to a great extent, though essential additions have been made over the years.</ref>[http://www.islamicvoice.com/june.2004/miscellany.htm#cjm -Cheraman Juma Masjid A Secular Heritage]</ref><ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref> [http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/travelogue/mosque.html -A mosque from a Hindu king]</ref>

In Malabar the [[Mappilas]] may be the first community to come to the fold of Islam because they were more closely connected with the Arabs than others. Intensive missionary activities went on the coast and a number of natives also embraced Islam. These new converts were now added to the pile of the [[Mappila]] community. Thus among the Mapilas, we find, both the descendants of the Arabs through local women and the converts from among the local people <ref>[http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm - Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>

In the 8th century, the province of Sindh was conquered by Syrian Arabs led by [[Muhammad bin Qasim]]. Sindh became the easternmost province of the [[Umayyad Caliphate]].
In the first half of the 10th century a [[Mahmud of Ghazni]] added the [[Punjab region|Punjab]] to the [[Ghaznavid Empire]] and conducted several raids deeper into mordern day [[India]]. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by the [[Muhammad of Ghor]]. This eventually led to the formation of the [[Delhi Sultanate]].

Historian [[Will Durant]] wrote in ''The Story of Civilization'' (1972) that the Muslim conquest of India was "probably the bloodiest story in history." The number of people killed is estimated based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations. K.S. Lal estimated in his book ''The Growth of Muslim Population in India'' that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million.

Jawahar Lal Nehru, India's first prime minister, wrote in his book ''Discovery of India'', 1946 page 218 about Muslim's influence on India,"The impact of the invaders from the north-west and of Islam on India had been considerable. It had pointed out and shone up the abuses that had crept into Hindu society - the petrification of caste, untouchability, exclusiveness carried to fantastic lengths."
See Also:

* [[Rajputs and invasions of India]].
* [[Islamic conquest of the Indian subcontinent]].

==Sufism and spread of Islam==
[[Sufi]]s (Islamic saints) played an important role in the spread of Islam in India. They were very successful in spreading Islam, as many aspects of Sufi belief systems and practices had their parallels in Indian philosophical literature, in particular nonviolence and monoism. Sufis' unorthodox approach towards Islam made it easier for Hindus to practice. Hazrat [[Khawaja Muin-ud-din Chisti]], [[Nizam-ud-din Auliya]], [[Shah Jalal]], [[Amir Khusro]] trained Sufi groups for the propagation of Islam in different parts of India. Once the Islamic Empire was established in India, Sufis invariably provided a touch of colour and beauty to what might have otherwise been rather cold and stark reigns. The Sufi movement also attracted followers from the artisan and [[Dalit (outcaste)|Untouchable]] communities; they played a crucial role in bridging the distance between Islam and the indigenous traditions. Even today Sufi tombs are visited by Hindus and Muslims alike.

==Role of Muslims in India's freedom movement==
The contribution of Muslim revolutionaries, poets and writers is immense in India's struggle against the British. Maulana [[Abul Kalam Azad]], [[Hakim Ajmal Khan]] and [[Rafi Ahmed Qidwai]] are a few of Muslims who devoted their life for this purpose. [[Muhammad Ashfaq Ullah Khan]] of [[Shahjehanpur]] who conspired and looted the British treasury at [[Kakori]] ([[Lucknow]]) to cripple the administration and who, when asked for his last will, before execution, desired: ''No desire is left except one that some one may put a little soil of my motherland in my winding sheet''. [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]] (popular as Frontier Gandhi), a great nationalist who spent 45 of his 95 years of life in jail for the freedom of India; [[Barakatullah]] of [[Bhopal]], one of the founders of the ''[[Ghadar party]]'' which created a network of anti-British organizations and who died penniless in Germany in l927; [[Syed Rahmat Shah]] of the ''Ghadar party'' who worked as an underground revolutionary in France and was hanged for his part in the unsuccessful Ghadar (mutiny)uprising in 1915; [[Ali Ahmad Siddiqui]] of [[Faizabad]] (UP) who planned the [[Indian Mutiny]] in [[Malaya]] and [[Burma]] along with [[Syed Mujtaba Hussain]] of [[Jaunpur]] and who was hanged In 1917; [[Vakkom Abdul Khadar]] of [[Kerala]] who participated in "[[Quit India]]" struggle in 1942 was hanged ; [[Umar Subhani]], an industrialist and a millionaire of Bombay who provided Gandhi with congress expenses and who ultimately gave his life for the cause of independence. Among Muslim women, [[Hazrat Mahal]], [[Asghari Begum]], Bi Amma contributed heavily in the struggle of freedom from Britishers.

There was also a major uprising by Kerala Muslims in the form of the [[Moplah Rebellion]].

The following is a list of some famous Muslims who fought for a unified India (as opposed to Pakistan): [[Maulana Azad]], [[Hakeem Ajmal Khan]], [[Tipu Sultan]], [[Hyder Ali]], [[Maulana Shaukat Ali]], [[Hasrat Mohani]], [[Professor Barkatullah]], [[Dr. Zakir Husain]] , [[Saifuddin Kichlu]], Allama [[Shibli Nomani]], [[Vakkom Abdul Khadir]], Dr. [[Manzoor Abdul Wahab]], ,[[Bahadur Shah Zafar]], [[Hakeem Nusrat Husain]], [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]], [[Samad Achakzai]], [[Maulana Mohammad Ali]], Colonel Shahnawaz, Dr. M.A.Ansari, [[Rafi Ahmad Kidwai]], Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Viqarul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, VM Ubaidullah, SR Rahim, [[Badruddin Tyabjee]], and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

==Law and politics==

Muslims in India are Governed by The Muslim [[Personal Law]] ([[Shariat]]) Application Act, 1937.<ref> [http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/muslimperact/muslimpersonalact.htm The Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act, 1937]</ref>. it directs the application of Muslim Personal Law to Muslims in a number of different areas mainly related to family law which includes marriage, Mahr(Dower), [[Divorce]], Maintenance, Gifts, [[Wakf]], Wills and Inheritance.<ref> [http://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/legal/india.htm Article discussing Muslim personal law in India]</ref> The courts generally apply the [[Hanafi]] [[Sunni]] law, with exceptions made only for those areas where [[Shia]] law differed substantially from Sunni practice.

Although [[Indian constitution]] provided equal rights to all citizens irrespective of their religion and Article 44 recommended [[Uniform civil code]] for all. The attempts by successive political leadership in the country to integrate the Indian society under common civil code was was strongly resisted and is still viewed by Indian Muslims as an attempt to dilute the cultural identity of the minority group of the country. [[All India Muslim Personal Law Board]] was established for the protection and continued applicability of “Muslim Personal Law” i.e. Shariat Application Act in India.

==Muslims in Modern India==

Muslims in India post-[[Independence]] have had a mixed and sometimes turbulent history. The aftermath of the [[Partition of India]] in 1947 saw large scale [[sectarian]] strife and bloodshed throughout the nation. During partition, large populations of Muslims, including many who were rich and educated, left for Pakistan. Across the border, these immigrants or '[[Muhajirs]]' have ever since played an important role in the development of Pakistan. The majority of Muslims in India are economically backward; however, like in all minorities, there are Muslims who have played a special role in all fields of the country's advancement. Still, Muslims have sometimes been the victims of [[religious fundamentalism]]. At the same time, Muslim fundamentalist groups also hold prominence in states like [[Jammu and Kashmir]]. There is an increasingly heated debate on whether what [[secularists]] in India classify as religious fundamentalism is only limited to the Hindu side in an attempt to protect the Muslim minority. The recent issue regarding the [[Ayodhya]] [[temple]] site shows that these problems, products of religious nationalism some 70 years ago, are hardly likely to go away in the near future.

The [[Students Islamic Movement of India]] (SIMI) was formed in [[Aligarh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]] state, in April 1977. The stated mission of SIMI is the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land and is widely believed to be against [[secularism]], [[democracy]] and [[nationalism]], keystones of the [[India]]n [[Constitution of India|Constitution]] and believes that [[Osama bin Laden]] is an outstanding example of a true [[Mujahid]]. Indian government alleges that SIMI is associated with Pakistan's [[ISI]] and also with numerous anti-Indian groups. This organisation was outlawed by the Indian Government in 2002. [http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm][http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main1.htm]

Prominent Indian Muslims include:
* [[Khwaja Abdul Hamid]], who in 1935 founded one of the first Indian-owned [[industries]] in the [[colonial]] era, [[CIPLA]] (The Chemical, Industrial & Pharmaceutical Laboratories). In 1939, when [[Mahatma Gandhi]] visited CIPLA he wrote that he was "delighted to visit this Indian enterprise". CIPLA today is a [[pharmaceutical]] company with a global presence, it's products being sold in over 150 countries worldwide.

* There have been three Muslim presidents of India, Dr. [[Zakir Hussain (politician)|Zakir Hussain]], Dr [[Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed]] and the current president, Dr. [[A.P.J. Abdul Kalam]].

* [[Salim Ali (ornithologist)|Salim Ali]] (November 12, 1896 - July 27, 1987) is one of India's best known ornithologist and naturalist. Known as the "Birdman of India", Salim Ali was among the first Indians to conduct systematic bird surveys in India and his books have contributed enormously to understanding and protecting India's birds and also other wildlife.

* [[Azim Premji]], owner of [[Wipro Ltd.]] is the richest man in India. In 2005, Yusuf Hameed of CIPLA and Azim Premji received one of India's highest civilian awards, the [[Padma Bhushan]] for his contributions to the country.

Muslims are also playing pivotal roles in the advertising industry, film industry ([[Bollywood]]), modern art, academics, theatre and sports. Some large industries like [[Wipro]] Ltd., [[Wockhardt]], [[Himalaya health care]], [[Hamdard Laboratories]] and [[Mirza Tanners]] are owned by Muslims.

''see: [[List of notable muslims of independent India]]''

Altough they have a turbulent history, Muslims in India now do not face any problems from any other religious sect, in developed areas. They have be included in the [[Reservation]] Policy of the Government of India, which is an [[affirmative action]] policy. Generally in cities in mordern India, everybody celebrates every other religious ceremony.

==Muslim Institutes==
There are several well established Muslim institutes in India. Here is a list of reputed institutes established by Muslims.
*'''Modern College and University''': [[Aligarh Muslim University]], [[Jamia Millia Islamia]], [[Hamdard University (India))|Hamdard University]], [[Al Ameen College]] [[Bangalore]], [[Al Kabir college]] [[Mysore]], .
*'''Traditional Islamic University''': [[Darul Uloom Deoband]], [[Darul-uloom Nadwatul Ulama]], Darul-Ulum Manzar Islam (Bareli)
*'''Other religious institutions''': [[Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind]]
*'''Media''': [http://www.milligazette.com Milli Gazette], [http://www.siasat.com/english/ Siasat], [http://www.radianceweekly.com/default.asp Radiance Weekly]

==Population Statistics==
Islam is [[India]]'s largest minority religion, with [[Muslim]]s officially constituting 13.4 % of the country's population, or 137 million people as of [[2001]][[census]]. However, unofficial estimates show a far higher figure supposedly discounted in censuses. For instance, in an interview with a well circulated newspaper of India ''The Hindu'' Justice K.M. Yusuf, a retired Judge from Calcutta High Court and Chairman of ''West Bengal Minority Commission'', says that the real percentage of Muslims in India is atleast 20%. [http://www.islamicpopulation.com/india_muslim.html]. As per Syed Shahabuddin, a diplomat-turned-politician, a Muslim scholar and one of the members in the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, both Hindu and Muslim ‘spokesmen’, speaking for their respective communities ''amplify and exaggerate'' the Muslim population in India, the first, to convince their followers about the rising ‘Islamic menace’, a threat to the country and at least to its Hindu character, the second, to raise the morale of a politically deprived, educationally backward, economically poor and socially vilified, frustrated community.[http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15092001/29.htm]

The largest concentrations--about 47% of all Muslims in India--live in the 3 states of [[Bihar]] (13.7 million) (16.5%), [[West Bengal]] (20.2 million) (25%), and [[Uttar Pradesh]] (30.7 million) (18.5%), according to the 2001 census. Muslims represent a majority of the local population only in [[Jammu and Kashmir]] (67 % in [[2001]]) and [[Lakshadweep]] (95 %). High concentrations of Muslims are found in the eastern states of [[Assam]] (31 %) and [[West Bengal]] (25 %), and in the southern state of [[Kerala]] (25 %) and [[Karnataka]] (12.2%). Muslims are generally more educated, urban, integrated and prosperous in the Western and Southern states of India than in the Northern and Eastern ones. India has the third largest [[Muslim]] population (after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]]) and also the third largest [[Shia]] Muslim population (after Pakistan and [[Iran]]) in the world.

The analysis on [[Religion]] Data, among the six major religious communities, the decadal growth of the Muslims was the highest (36.0%) at the [[2001]] Census. This statistics suggested while the growth rate for Hindus has fallen between [[1991]] and [[2001]] compared with [[1981]] and [[1991]], Muslims have actually grown faster in the last decade, this led Indian [[Media]]<ref>[http://www.indiatogether.org/2004/oct/med-census.htm The Muslim growth rate and the media]</ref> and different Muslim bashing Pro-[[Hindutva]] parties raising an alarm at the growing number of Muslims and express concern about the [[demographic imbalance]]<ref>[http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2120/stories/20041008006101600.htm - The population bogey Frontline Coverstory Volume 21 - Issue 20, Sept. 25 - Oct. 08, 2004]</ref>.

The truth was that Muslims have seen a significant fall in population growth rates. The false impression about a rising Muslim growth rate is created because the [[1991]] census did not include [[Jammu & Kashmir]],the only Muslim majority state and strife-torn [[Assam]], while the [[2001]] census does include [[Jammu & Kashmir]]. Adjusted for this and the Muslim growth rate plunged from 36 per cent to 29.3 per cent.

== The History of Islam in India ==
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The first Islamic presence in India came in the 8th century CE, when Syrian Arabs led by Muhammad Qasim conquered the region of Sindh and made it an eastern province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
* [[Islamic invasion of India]]
* [[Islamic Empires in India]]
* [[Mughal era]]

==Islamic Traditions in South Asia==
[[Image:Jama Masjid is the largest mosque in India. Delhi, India..jpg|thumb|250px|The Jama Masjid, [[Delhi]] is one of the largest mosques in the world.]]
A significant aspect of Indian Islam is the importance of shrines attached to the memory of great [[Sufi]] saints. [[Sufism]] is a mystical path ([[tarika]]) as distinct from the legalistic path of the [[sharia]]. A Sufi attains a direct vision of oneness with God, often on the edges of orthodox behavior, and can thus become a Pir (living saint) who may take on disciples ([murid]s) and set up a spiritual lineage that can last for generations. Orders of Sufis became important in India during the thirteenth century following the ministry of [[Moinuddin Chishti]] ([[1142]]-[[1236]]), who settled in [[Ajmer]], [[Rajasthan]], and attracted large numbers of converts to Islam because of his holiness. His [[Chishtiyya]] order went on to become the most influential Sufi lineage in India, although other orders from [[Central Asia]] and [[Southwest Asia]] also reached to India and played a major role in the spread of Islam. Many Sufis were well known for weaving music, dance, intoxicants, and local folktales into their songs and lectures. In this way, they created a large literature in [[regional language]]s that embedded Islamic culture deeply into older South Asian traditions.

In the case of many great teachers, the memory of their holiness has been so intense that they are still viewed as active intercessors with God, and their tombs have become the site of rites and prayers by disciples and lay people alike. Tales of miraculous deeds associated with the tombs of great saints have attracted large numbers of pilgrims attempting to gain cures for physical maladies or solutions to personal problems. The tomb of the Pir thus becomes a dargah (gateway) to God and the focus for a wide range of rituals, such as daily washing and decoration by professional attendants, touching or kissing the tomb or contact with the water that has washed it, hanging petitions on the walls of the shrine surrounding the tomb, and giving money.

The descendants of the original pir are sometimes seen as inheritors of his spiritual energy and as pirs in their own right. They may dispense amulets sanctified by contact with them or with the tomb. The annual celebration of the Pir's death is a major event at important shrines, attracting hundreds of thousands of devotees for celebrations that may last for days. Free communal kitchens and distribution of sweets are also big attractions of these festivals, at which Muslim fakirs, or wandering ascetics, sometimes appear and where public demonstrations of self-mortification, such as miraculous piercing of the body and spiritual possession of devotees, sometimes occur. Every region of India can boast of at least one major Sufi shrine that attracts expressive devotion, which remains important, especially for Muslim women.

The leadership of the Muslim community has pursued various directions in the evolution of Indian Islam during the [[twentieth century]]. The most conservative wing has typically rested on the education system provided by the hundreds of religious training institutes ([[madrasa]]) throughout the country, which have tended to stress the study of the [[Qur'an]] and Islamic texts in [[Arabic language|Arabic]] and [[Persian language|Persian]] but little else. Several national movements have emerged from this sector of the Muslim community. The [[Jamaati Islami]] (Islamic Party), founded in [[1941]], advocates the establishment of an overtly Islamic government through peaceful, democratic, and non-missionary activities. The Indian branch of the party had about 3,000 active members and 40,000 sympathizers in the mid-[[1980s]]. The [[Tablighi Jamaat]] (Outreach Society) became active after the [[1940s]] as a movement, primarily among the ulema (religious leaders), stressing personal renewal, prayer, a missionary and cooperative spirit, and attention to orthodoxy. It has been highly critical of the kind of activities that occur in and around Sufi shrines and remains a minor if respected force in the training of the ulema. Conversely, other ulema have upheld the legitimacy of mass religion, including exaltation of pirs and the memory of the [[Muhammad|Prophet]]. A powerful secularising drive led by [[Syed Ahmad Khan]] resulted in the foundation of [[Aligarh Muslim University]] ([[1875]] as the [[Muhammadan Anglo-Oriental College]]) -- with a broader, more modern curriculum -- and other major Muslim universities. This educational drive has remained the most dominant force in guiding the Muslim community.

== Post - Independence ==
The Muslims of India have generally been treated well although there has been many [[anti-Muslim]] riots.
*[http://www.themodernreligion.com/assault/india-ext.html Muslims in India]
*[http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/Summary%20Muslims.pdf Muslims in India Census 2001]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.info IndianMuslims.info Informational website on Indian Muslims]
*[http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mriexin/sasislam.html South Asian Islam Links]
*[http://www.islamawareness.net/Asia/India/ Islam, Muslim and Politics in India ]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.org IndianMuslimsOrg One-start portal for IndianMuslims]

== See also ==
* [[Mappila]] (Muslim community from Kerala)''

==Notes and References==
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== Literature ==
*Elliot and Dowson: [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], New Delhi reprint, 1990.
*Majumdar, R. C. (ed.), The History and Culture of the Indian People, Volume VI, The Delhi Sultanate, Bombay, 1960; Volume VII, The Mughal Empire, Bombay, 1973.
*M K A Siddiqui (ed.), ''Marginal Muslim Communities In India'', Institute of Objective Studies, New Delhi (2004) ([http://www.iosworld.org/life_on_the_margins.htm review])

==See also==
* [[Islam by country]],
* [[Indian Muslim nationalism]]
* [[Islam in Pakistan]]
* [[Islam in Bangladesh]]

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[[Islam]] is the second-largest religion in [[India]] (after [[Hinduism]] - 80.5%), where [[Muslims]] number around 137 million (13.4%)<ref>{{
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. India has the third-largest population of Muslims in the world after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]].

Since its introduction to India, Islam has made religious, artistic, philosophical, culture, social and political contributions to Indian history, heritage and life. It has also been involved in many social, religious and political conflicts.

==Arrival of Islam==
Contrary to general belief, Islam came to India long before [[Muslim invasions of India]]. Islamic influence first came to be felt in the early 7th century with the advent of Arab traders.Trade relations between Arabia and Indian sub-continent are very ancient. Arab traders used visit [[Malabar]] region to trade which was a link between the ports of South and South East Asia, even before Islam had been established in Arabia. According to Historians Elliot and Dowson in their book [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], the first ship bearing Muslim travelers was seen on the Indian coast as early as [[630]] AD. H.G. Rawlinson, In his book Ancient and Medieval History of India<ref>ISBN 8186050795 Ancient and Medieval History of India]</ref> claims the first Arab Muslims settled on the Indian coast in the last part of the 7th century AD. This fact is corroborated, by J. Sturrock in his South Kanara and Madras Districts Manuals<ref>Sturrock, J.,South Canara and Madras District Manual (2 vols., Madras, 1894-1895)</ref>, and also by Haridas Bhattacharya in cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV.<ref>ISBN 8185843058 Cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV</ref>It was with the advent of Islam that the Arabs became a prominent cultural race in the world. The Arab merchants and traders became the carriers of the new religion and they propagated it wherever they went<ref>http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm -Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>. Arab Muslim traders attracted the people to Islam by their behavior in the contact, honesty in trade, discipline in dealings and peaceful religious and pious life A number of Indians living in the coastal areas of [[Kerala]] were moved by the principles of Islam and converted.

King [[Cheraman Perumal]] is said to be the first convert to Islam in India, Legend has it that a group of [[Muhammad]]’s [[Sahaba|companions]] visited [[Kodangallur]], Cheraman Perumal Bhaskara Ravi Varma, then the [[Chera]] ruler, had witnessed a miraculous happening, the sudden splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of Muhammad, and learning on inquiry that this was a symbol of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, Soon after, Cheruman Perumal travelled to Makkah, embraced Islam, and accepted the name Thajudeen. On his way back to India he died in [[Salala]] in the [[Sultanate of Oman]], On his deathbed he is said to have authorized some of his Arab companions to go back to his kingdom to spread Islam. Accordingly, a group of Arabs led by [[Malik Bin Deenar]] and Malik bin Habib arrived in north Kerala.<ref>[http://www.iosworld.org/interview_cheramul.htm HINDU PATRON OF MUSLIM HERITAGE SITE]</ref> <ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref>[http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/23/stories/2005072306490500.htm. Hindu Daily- Kalam to visit oldest mosque in sub-continent]</ref> The historical veracity of the Cheraman’s alleged conversion to Islam is disputable, As none of noted historians speaks of the story of the of recognized historians nor corroborated by any contemporary record or evidence. This story appeared in the book ''Keralolpathi'' Origin of kerala, origianaly in palm leaves, first published by [[Hermann Gundert]] in [[1843]]. The reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions.<ref> [..reliability of this book as a historical record has been seriously compromised as a result of contradictions http://naturemagics.com/kerala_history/kerala_history.html]</ref>

The first Indian mosque was built in during [[629]] A.D, at the behest of [[Cheraman Perumal]], during the life time of [[Muhammad]](c. [[571]] – [[632]])in [[Kodungallur]] by [[Malik Bin Deenar]].it is belived to be World’s second oldest mosque.The original Hindu architectural scheme of the mosque has been retained intact to a great extent, though essential additions have been made over the years.</ref>[http://www.islamicvoice.com/june.2004/miscellany.htm#cjm -Cheraman Juma Masjid A Secular Heritage]</ref><ref>[http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?CategoryId=4&ArticleId=49332 Bahrain tribune World’s second oldest mosque is in India]</ref><ref> [http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/travelogue/mosque.html -A mosque from a Hindu king]</ref>

In Malabar the [[Mappilas]] may be the first community to come to the fold of Islam because they were more closely connected with the Arabs than others. Intensive missionary activities went on the coast and a number of natives also embraced Islam. These new converts were now added to the pile of the [[Mappila]] community. Thus among the Mapilas, we find, both the descendants of the Arabs through local women and the converts from among the local people <ref>[http://www.jaihoon.com/watan/indarbmappilacommunity.htm - Genesis and Growth of the Mappila Community]</ref>

In the 8th century, the province of Sindh was conquered by Syrian Arabs led by [[Muhammad bin Qasim]]. Sindh became the easternmost province of the [[Umayyad Caliphate]].
In the first half of the 10th century a [[Mahmud of Ghazni]] added the [[Punjab region|Punjab]] to the [[Ghaznavid Empire]] and conducted several raids deeper into mordern day [[India]]. A more successful invasion came at the end of the 12th century by the [[Muhammad of Ghor]]. This eventually led to the formation of the [[Delhi Sultanate]].

Historian [[Will Durant]] wrote in ''The Story of Civilization'' (1972) that the Muslim conquest of India was "probably the bloodiest story in history." The number of people killed is estimated based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations. K.S. Lal estimated in his book ''The Growth of Muslim Population in India'' that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million.

Jawahar Lal Nehru, India's first prime minister, wrote in his book ''Discovery of India'', 1946 page 218 about Muslim's influence on India,"The impact of the invaders from the north-west and of Islam on India had been considerable. It had pointed out and shone up the abuses that had crept into Hindu society - the petrification of caste, untouchability, exclusiveness carried to fantastic lengths."
See Also:

* [[Rajputs and invasions of India]].
* [[Islamic conquest of the Indian subcontinent]].

==Sufism and spread of Islam==
[[Sufi]]s (Islamic saints) played an important role in the spread of Islam in India. They were very successful in spreading Islam, as many aspects of Sufi belief systems and practices had their parallels in Indian philosophical literature, in particular nonviolence and monoism. Sufis' unorthodox approach towards Islam made it easier for Hindus to practice. Hazrat [[Khawaja Muin-ud-din Chisti]], [[Nizam-ud-din Auliya]], [[Shah Jalal]], [[Amir Khusro]] trained Sufi groups for the propagation of Islam in different parts of India. Once the Islamic Empire was established in India, Sufis invariably provided a touch of colour and beauty to what might have otherwise been rather cold and stark reigns. The Sufi movement also attracted followers from the artisan and [[Dalit (outcaste)|Untouchable]] communities; they played a crucial role in bridging the distance between Islam and the indigenous traditions. Even today Sufi tombs are visited by Hindus and Muslims alike.

==Role of Muslims in India's freedom movement==
The contribution of Muslim revolutionaries, poets and writers is immense in India's struggle against the British. Maulana [[Abul Kalam Azad]], [[Hakim Ajmal Khan]] and [[Rafi Ahmed Qidwai]] are a few of Muslims who devoted their life for this purpose. [[Muhammad Ashfaq Ullah Khan]] of [[Shahjehanpur]] who conspired and looted the British treasury at [[Kakori]] ([[Lucknow]]) to cripple the administration and who, when asked for his last will, before execution, desired: ''No desire is left except one that some one may put a little soil of my motherland in my winding sheet''. [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]] (popular as Frontier Gandhi), a great nationalist who spent 45 of his 95 years of life in jail for the freedom of India; [[Barakatullah]] of [[Bhopal]], one of the founders of the ''[[Ghadar party]]'' which created a network of anti-British organizations and who died penniless in Germany in l927; [[Syed Rahmat Shah]] of the ''Ghadar party'' who worked as an underground revolutionary in France and was hanged for his part in the unsuccessful Ghadar (mutiny)uprising in 1915; [[Ali Ahmad Siddiqui]] of [[Faizabad]] (UP) who planned the [[Indian Mutiny]] in [[Malaya]] and [[Burma]] along with [[Syed Mujtaba Hussain]] of [[Jaunpur]] and who was hanged In 1917; [[Vakkom Abdul Khadar]] of [[Kerala]] who participated in "[[Quit India]]" struggle in 1942 was hanged ; [[Umar Subhani]], an industrialist and a millionaire of Bombay who provided Gandhi with congress expenses and who ultimately gave his life for the cause of independence. Among Muslim women, [[Hazrat Mahal]], [[Asghari Begum]], Bi Amma contributed heavily in the struggle of freedom from Britishers.

There was also a major uprising by Kerala Muslims in the form of the [[Moplah Rebellion]].

The following is a list of some famous Muslims who fought for a unified India (as opposed to Pakistan): [[Maulana Azad]], [[Hakeem Ajmal Khan]], [[Tipu Sultan]], [[Hyder Ali]], [[Maulana Shaukat Ali]], [[Hasrat Mohani]], [[Professor Barkatullah]], [[Dr. Zakir Husain]] , [[Saifuddin Kichlu]], Allama [[Shibli Nomani]], [[Vakkom Abdul Khadir]], Dr. [[Manzoor Abdul Wahab]], ,[[Bahadur Shah Zafar]], [[Hakeem Nusrat Husain]], [[Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan]], [[Samad Achakzai]], [[Maulana Mohammad Ali]], Colonel Shahnawaz, Dr. M.A.Ansari, [[Rafi Ahmad Kidwai]], Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Viqarul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, VM Ubaidullah, SR Rahim, [[Badruddin Tyabjee]], and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

==Law and politics==

Muslims in India are Governed by The Muslim [[Personal Law]] ([[Shariat]]) Application Act, 1937.<ref> [http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/muslimperact/muslimpersonalact.htm The Muslim Personal Law (Shariat) Application Act, 1937]</ref>. it directs the application of Muslim Personal Law to Muslims in a number of different areas mainly related to family law which includes marriage, Mahr(Dower), [[Divorce]], Maintenance, Gifts, [[Wakf]], Wills and Inheritance.<ref> [http://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/legal/india.htm Article discussing Muslim personal law in India]</ref> The courts generally apply the [[Hanafi]] [[Sunni]] law, with exceptions made only for those areas where [[Shia]] law differed substantially from Sunni practice.

Although [[Indian constitution]] provided equal rights to all citizens irrespective of their religion and Article 44 recommended [[Uniform civil code]] for all. The attempts by successive political leadership in the country to integrate the Indian society under common civil code was was strongly resisted and is still viewed by Indian Muslims as an attempt to dilute the cultural identity of the minority group of the country. [[All India Muslim Personal Law Board]] was established for the protection and continued applicability of “Muslim Personal Law” i.e. Shariat Application Act in India.

==Muslims in Modern India==

Muslims in India post-[[Independence]] have had a mixed and sometimes turbulent history. The aftermath of the [[Partition of India]] in 1947 saw large scale [[sectarian]] strife and bloodshed throughout the nation. During partition, large populations of Muslims, including many who were rich and educated, left for Pakistan. Across the border, these immigrants or '[[Muhajirs]]' have ever since played an important role in the development of Pakistan. The majority of Muslims in India are economically backward; however, like in all minorities, there are Muslims who have played a special role in all fields of the country's advancement. Still, Muslims have sometimes been the victims of [[religious fundamentalism]]. At the same time, Muslim fundamentalist groups also hold prominence in states like [[Jammu and Kashmir]]. There is an increasingly heated debate on whether what [[secularists]] in India classify as religious fundamentalism is only limited to the Hindu side in an attempt to protect the Muslim minority. The recent issue regarding the [[Ayodhya]] [[temple]] site shows that these problems, products of religious nationalism some 70 years ago, are hardly likely to go away in the near future.

The [[Students Islamic Movement of India]] (SIMI) was formed in [[Aligarh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]] state, in April 1977. The stated mission of SIMI is the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land and is widely believed to be against [[secularism]], [[democracy]] and [[nationalism]], keystones of the [[India]]n [[Constitution of India|Constitution]] and believes that [[Osama bin Laden]] is an outstanding example of a true [[Mujahid]]. Indian government alleges that SIMI is associated with Pakistan's [[ISI]] and also with numerous anti-Indian groups. This organisation was outlawed by the Indian Government in 2002. [http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm][http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main1.htm]

Prominent Indian Muslims include:
* [[Khwaja Abdul Hamid]], who in 1935 founded one of the first Indian-owned [[industries]] in the [[colonial]] era, [[CIPLA]] (The Chemical, Industrial & Pharmaceutical Laboratories). In 1939, when [[Mahatma Gandhi]] visited CIPLA he wrote that he was "delighted to visit this Indian enterprise". CIPLA today is a [[pharmaceutical]] company with a global presence, it's products being sold in over 150 countries worldwide.

* There have been three Muslim presidents of India, Dr. [[Zakir Hussain (politician)|Zakir Hussain]], Dr [[Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed]] and the current president, Dr. [[A.P.J. Abdul Kalam]].

* [[Salim Ali (ornithologist)|Salim Ali]] (November 12, 1896 - July 27, 1987) is one of India's best known ornithologist and naturalist. Known as the "Birdman of India", Salim Ali was among the first Indians to conduct systematic bird surveys in India and his books have contributed enormously to understanding and protecting India's birds and also other wildlife.

* [[Azim Premji]], owner of [[Wipro Ltd.]] is the richest man in India. In 2005, Yusuf Hameed of CIPLA and Azim Premji received one of India's highest civilian awards, the [[Padma Bhushan]] for his contributions to the country.

Muslims are also playing pivotal roles in the advertising industry, film industry ([[Bollywood]]), modern art, academics, theatre and sports. Some large industries like [[Wipro]] Ltd., [[Wockhardt]], [[Himalaya health care]], [[Hamdard Laboratories]] and [[Mirza Tanners]] are owned by Muslims.

''see: [[List of notable muslims of independent India]]''

Altough they have a turbulent history, Muslims in India now do not face any problems from any other religious sect, in developed areas. They have be included in the Reservation Policy of the Government of India, which is an affirmative action policy. Generally in cities in mordern India, everybody celebrates every other religious ceremony.

==Muslim Institutes==
There are several well established Muslim institutes in India. Here is a list of reputed institutes established by Muslims.
*'''Modern College and University''': [[Aligarh Muslim University]], [[Jamia Millia Islamia]], [[Hamdard University (India))|Hamdard University]], [[Al Ameen College]] [[Bangalore]], [[Al Kabir college]] [[Mysore]], .
*'''Traditional Islamic University''': [[Darul Uloom Deoband]], [[Darul-uloom Nadwatul Ulama]], Darul-Ulum Manzar Islam (Bareli)
*'''Other religious institutions''': [[Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind]]
*'''Media''': [http://www.milligazette.com Milli Gazette], [http://www.siasat.com/english/ Siasat], [http://www.radianceweekly.com/default.asp Radiance Weekly]

==Population Statistics==
Islam is [[India]]'s largest minority religion, with [[Muslim]]s officially constituting 13.4 % of the country's population, or 137 million people as of [[2001]][[census]]. However, unofficial estimates show a far higher figure supposedly discounted in censuses. For instance, in an interview with a well circulated newspaper of India ''The Hindu'' Justice K.M. Yusuf, a retired Judge from Calcutta High Court and Chairman of ''West Bengal Minority Commission'', says that the real percentage of Muslims in India is atleast 20%. [http://www.islamicpopulation.com/india_muslim.html]. As per Syed Shahabuddin, a diplomat-turned-politician, a Muslim scholar and one of the members in the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, both Hindu and Muslim ‘spokesmen’, speaking for their respective communities ''amplify and exaggerate'' the Muslim population in India, the first, to convince their followers about the rising ‘Islamic menace’, a threat to the country and at least to its Hindu character, the second, to raise the morale of a politically deprived, educationally backward, economically poor and socially vilified, frustrated community.[http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15092001/29.htm]

The largest concentrations--about 47% of all Muslims in India--live in the 3 states of [[Bihar]] (13.7 million) (16.5%), [[West Bengal]] (20.2 million) (25%), and [[Uttar Pradesh]] (30.7 million) (18.5%), according to the 2001 census. Muslims represent a majority of the local population only in [[Jammu and Kashmir]] (67 % in [[2001]]) and [[Lakshadweep]] (95 %). High concentrations of Muslims are found in the eastern states of [[Assam]] (31 %) and [[West Bengal]] (25 %), and in the southern state of [[Kerala]] (25 %) and [[Karnataka]] (12.2%). Muslims are generally more educated, urban, integrated and prosperous in the Western and Southern states of India than in the Northern and Eastern ones. India has the third largest [[Muslim]] population (after [[Indonesia]] and [[Pakistan]]) and also the third largest [[Shia]] Muslim population (after Pakistan and [[Iran]]) in the world.

The analysis on [[Religion]] Data, among the six major religious communities, the decadal growth of the Muslims was the highest (36.0%) at the [[2001]] Census. This statistics suggested while the growth rate for Hindus has fallen between [[1991]] and [[2001]] compared with [[1981]] and [[1991]], Muslims have actually grown faster in the last decade, this led Indian [[Media]]<ref>[http://www.indiatogether.org/2004/oct/med-census.htm The Muslim growth rate and the media]</ref> and different Muslim bashing Pro-[[Hindutva]] parties raising an alarm at the growing number of Muslims and express concern about the [[demographic imbalance]]<ref>[http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2120/stories/20041008006101600.htm - The population bogey Frontline Coverstory Volume 21 - Issue 20, Sept. 25 - Oct. 08, 2004]</ref>.

The truth was that Muslims have seen a significant fall in population growth rates. The false impression about a rising Muslim growth rate is created because the [[1991]] census did not include [[Jammu & Kashmir]],the only Muslim majority state and strife-torn [[Assam]], while the [[2001]] census does include [[Jammu & Kashmir]]. Adjusted for this and the Muslim growth rate plunged from 36 per cent to 29.3 per cent.

== The History of Islam in India ==
{{expandsect}}
The first Islamic presence in India came in the 8th century CE, when Syrian Arabs led by Muhammad Qasim conquered the region of Sindh and made it an eastern province of the Umayyad Caliphate.
* [[Islamic invasion of India]]
* [[Islamic Empires in India]]
* [[Mughal era]]

==Islamic Traditions in South Asia==
[[Image:Jama Masjid is the largest mosque in India. Delhi, India..jpg|thumb|250px|The Jama Masjid, [[Delhi]] is one of the largest mosques in the world.]]
A significant aspect of Indian Islam is the importance of shrines attached to the memory of great [[Sufi]] saints. [[Sufism]] is a mystical path ([[tarika]]) as distinct from the legalistic path of the [[sharia]]. A Sufi attains a direct vision of oneness with God, often on the edges of orthodox behavior, and can thus become a Pir (living saint) who may take on disciples ([murid]s) and set up a spiritual lineage that can last for generations. Orders of Sufis became important in India during the thirteenth century following the ministry of [[Moinuddin Chishti]] ([[1142]]-[[1236]]), who settled in [[Ajmer]], [[Rajasthan]], and attracted large numbers of converts to Islam because of his holiness. His [[Chishtiyya]] order went on to become the most influential Sufi lineage in India, although other orders from [[Central Asia]] and [[Southwest Asia]] also reached to India and played a major role in the spread of Islam. Many Sufis were well known for weaving music, dance, intoxicants, and local folktales into their songs and lectures. In this way, they created a large literature in [[regional language]]s that embedded Islamic culture deeply into older South Asian traditions.

In the case of many great teachers, the memory of their holiness has been so intense that they are still viewed as active intercessors with God, and their tombs have become the site of rites and prayers by disciples and lay people alike. Tales of miraculous deeds associated with the tombs of great saints have attracted large numbers of pilgrims attempting to gain cures for physical maladies or solutions to personal problems. The tomb of the Pir thus becomes a dargah (gateway) to God and the focus for a wide range of rituals, such as daily washing and decoration by professional attendants, touching or kissing the tomb or contact with the water that has washed it, hanging petitions on the walls of the shrine surrounding the tomb, and giving money.

The descendants of the original pir are sometimes seen as inheritors of his spiritual energy and as pirs in their own right. They may dispense amulets sanctified by contact with them or with the tomb. The annual celebration of the Pir's death is a major event at important shrines, attracting hundreds of thousands of devotees for celebrations that may last for days. Free communal kitchens and distribution of sweets are also big attractions of these festivals, at which Muslim fakirs, or wandering ascetics, sometimes appear and where public demonstrations of self-mortification, such as miraculous piercing of the body and spiritual possession of devotees, sometimes occur. Every region of India can boast of at least one major Sufi shrine that attracts expressive devotion, which remains important, especially for Muslim women.

The leadership of the Muslim community has pursued various directions in the evolution of Indian Islam during the [[twentieth century]]. The most conservative wing has typically rested on the education system provided by the hundreds of religious training institutes ([[madrasa]]) throughout the country, which have tended to stress the study of the [[Qur'an]] and Islamic texts in [[Arabic language|Arabic]] and [[Persian language|Persian]] but little else. Several national movements have emerged from this sector of the Muslim community. The [[Jamaati Islami]] (Islamic Party), founded in [[1941]], advocates the establishment of an overtly Islamic government through peaceful, democratic, and non-missionary activities. The Indian branch of the party had about 3,000 active members and 40,000 sympathizers in the mid-[[1980s]]. The [[Tablighi Jamaat]] (Outreach Society) became active after the [[1940s]] as a movement, primarily among the ulema (religious leaders), stressing personal renewal, prayer, a missionary and cooperative spirit, and attention to orthodoxy. It has been highly critical of the kind of activities that occur in and around Sufi shrines and remains a minor if respected force in the training of the ulema. Conversely, other ulema have upheld the legitimacy of mass religion, including exaltation of pirs and the memory of the [[Muhammad|Prophet]]. A powerful secularising drive led by [[Syed Ahmad Khan]] resulted in the foundation of [[Aligarh Muslim University]] ([[1875]] as the [[Muhammadan Anglo-Oriental College]]) -- with a broader, more modern curriculum -- and other major Muslim universities. This educational drive has remained the most dominant force in guiding the Muslim community.

== Post - Independence ==
The Muslims of India have generally been treated well although there has been many [[anti-Muslim]] riots.
*[http://www.themodernreligion.com/assault/india-ext.html Muslims in India]
*[http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/Summary%20Muslims.pdf Muslims in India Census 2001]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.info IndianMuslims.info Informational website on Indian Muslims]
*[http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mriexin/sasislam.html South Asian Islam Links]
*[http://www.islamawareness.net/Asia/India/ Islam, Muslim and Politics in India ]
*[http://www.indianmuslims.org IndianMuslimsOrg One-start portal for IndianMuslims]

== See also ==
* [[Mappila]] (Muslim community from Kerala)''

==Notes and References==
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== Literature ==
*Elliot and Dowson: [[The History of India as told by its own Historians]], New Delhi reprint, 1990.
*Majumdar, R. C. (ed.), The History and Culture of the Indian People, Volume VI, The Delhi Sultanate, Bombay, 1960; Volume VII, The Mughal Empire, Bombay, 1973.
*M K A Siddiqui (ed.), ''Marginal Muslim Communities In India'', Institute of Objective Studies, New Delhi (2004) ([http://www.iosworld.org/life_on_the_margins.htm review])

==See also==
* [[Islam by country]],
* [[Indian Muslim nationalism]]
* [[Islam in Pakistan]]
* [[Islam in Bangladesh]]

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List of recurring The Simpsons characters

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==Akira==
[[Image:Akira(fromTheSimpsons).jpg|thumb|150px|Akira]]
As one of Springfield's most prominent [[Japanese American]] citizens, '''Akira''' is the owner of a [[karate]] dojo (which Bart briefly attended) and also works at "The Happy Sumo" [[sushi]] restaurant. He once helped Homer, Bart, and Lisa discover the origin of the mysterious "[[Mr. Sparkle]]" box (it came from a Japanese dishwashing detergent company with a mascot that coincidentally bears a striking resemblance to Homer). Also once, he, [[Luigi]], [[Captain Horatio McCallister|Capt. McAllister]], and other restaurant owners of Springfield planned a (failed) assassination attempt on Homer because he gave them bad reviews.

He was originally voiced by [[George Takei]], who played [[Hikaru Sulu|Sulu]] on ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek]]'', and in subsequent episodes he has been voiced by [[Hank Azaria|Hank Azaria.]]

==Arnie Pie "In The Sky"==
[[Image:arniepie.jpg|thumb|Arnie Pie]]
'''Arnie Pie''', voiced by [[Dan Castellaneta]], is a disgruntled helicopter traffic reporter for Springfield's [[KBBL]]-TV, with his segment, "Arnie in the Sky" (the joke lying in the abstruse omission of the obvious pun). During his segment, he frequently gets into abusive arguments with anchor [[Kent Brockman]] for unknown reasons. An example of this is when a particular disaster strikes Springfield, Kent wonders on the air whether or not his house is okay to which Arnie replies disdainfully "You mean your ''castle'', Kent!?" as he points to a very large house. Brockman then claimed he merely "bought at the right time," to which Arnie replied, "When's ''my'' right time, Kent?! When's ''my'' right time?!" Another example is when Kent asked him about the contents of a hijacked van they were chasing, to which he replied "I can't see through metal, Kent!" He frequentlly drops something, or gets sick, and then warns people to watch out if they are on the street he is on.

Pie once apparently died on the air in a helicopter crash, with his last words "Tell my wife I love--" dismissed with a chuckle by oblivious anchor [[Kent Brockman]]. However, he survived and has been seen in several episodes afterwards.

The character's name may be an homage to famed World War II news correspondent [[Ernie Pyle]].

Quotes: "I dont have a mirror that can see into people's ''souls'', Kent, but if I did, yours would be black, Kent, black as the ace of spades!"

==Artie Ziff==
[[Image:ziff.gif|thumb|130px|left|Artie Ziff-1974]]
'''Artie Ziff''' (voiced by [[Jon Lovitz]]), was first seen as [[Marge Simpson]]'s prom date with "busy hands" in high school. A later episode revealed him to have become a nerdy software billionaire, becoming the fifth richest man in the country. His wealth came from a device that transforms [[modem]] noise into easy listening music. In that episode, he offers a small fortune for a weekend with his childhood love, Marge, in parody of the movie ''[[Indecent Proposal]]''.

Later in the series, Ziff returns. It is revealed that he ran his company, Ziffcorp, into the ground spending investors' money on such extravagant items as solid gold underpants (a parody of the excesses of the [[Dot-com bubble|Dot-com era]]). He would party with [[Newt Gingrich]], [[Janeane Garofalo]], and [[Scottie Pippen]]. But he lost all his money and secretly moved into the Simpsons' attic. When Homer wins 98% of the company from Ziff in a game of poker, Homer is held legally responsible when the [[U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission]] comes to arrest Ziff. Homer goes to jail until Ziff turns himself in, and Ziff immediately begins putting out other prisoners' [[cigarette]]s with a squirt bottle as the episode ends. The Simpsons family suggests that we may not see Ziff alive again because of this.

It has been said that this character is loosely based on Robert D. Ziff (R.D. Ziff). The real Mr. Ziff is 38 years old, and is one of the richest people in the [[United States]]. (Currently #165 in the Forbes 400.) He went to [[Harvard]] with one of the writers of the Simpsons.

==Baby Gerald==
[[Image:unibrow.jpg|thumb|Baby Gerald]]
'''Baby Gerald''' is [[Maggie Simpson]]'s nemesis, although they have only come into actual conflict once (Simpsons Comic #50). When [[Lisa Simpson]] rescued her sister, however, Maggie started to cry (though Lisa didn't notice). In the actual series their rivalry is only hinted at; on a few occasions Gerald has been shown being pushed by his mother outside the Simpsons' house, with the two babies glaring at each other. He is distinguished by his [[unibrow]]. In "[[Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays]]" a [[Kent Brockman]] headline shows a picture of [[Maggie Simpson]] beating him up.

He apparently has a history of causing large scale public incidents, and was once rescued from an unspecified disaster by Bart's mail order "wonder dog" [[Laddie]].

Surprisingly, according to the comic story "The Rise and Fall of Bartholomew J. Simpson" (published in ''[[Simpsons Comics]]'' #47), the adult Gerald is married to Maggie, but is so dominant in the marriage that he will not even allow her to speak up during a conversation, though this may be considered non-canonical.

==Bernice Hibbert==
[[Image:BerniceHibbert.jpg|thumb|170px|left|Bernice Hibbert]]
'''Bernice Hibbert''' is Dr. [[Julius Hibbert]]'s recovering [[alcoholic]] wife, voiced by [[Tress MacNeille]]. Bernice is known to be something of a heavy drinker.

==Blue Haired Lawyer==
[[Image:blue-haired lawyer.jpg|thumb|Blue Haired Lawyer (right) consulting with Mr. Burns]]
The '''Blue Haired Lawyer''', voiced by [[Dan Castellaneta]], is a prominent lawyer known for his pasty face, blue hair, and nasal New York accent. Unlike [[Lionel Hutz]] or [[#Gil|Gil]], this lawyer is a competent and accredited lawyer. He is regularly [[Mr. Burns]]'s head lawyer, and is a member of the Springfield Republican Party.

Longtime writers [[Al Jean]] and [[Mike Reiss]] have both stated several times on the DVD commentaries that they based the character on McCarthy era lawyer [[Roy Cohn]], and animator [[Jim Reardon]] has said that he is designed to look like character actor [[Charles Lane (actor)|Charles Lane]].

One of his most memorable scenes was in FABF08, "[[The Ziff Who Came to Dinner]]": The Lawyer was representing Homer in an [[Enron]]-like court case…

:[''The Lawyer whispers something to Homer.'']
:'''Homer''': Read the fifth amend-''what''?
:[''The Lawyer whispers again.'']
:'''Homer''': Refuse to answer on the grounds that I ''what''? ''[pause]'' Inseminate myself?!?! ''[then, to the judge]'' Dude, I think this guy's coming on to me!
:'''Lawyer''': [''stands up and yells to Homer''] You, sir, are a moron!
:'''Homer''': A mormon? But I'm from Earth!

Due to the fact that he is almost always the lawyer prosecuting the Simpsons family, he may be Springfield's [[District Attorney]].

He and a pair of goons have hassled Grandpa in [[Lady Bouvier's Lover]] and Principal Skinner over a slogan at a school event.

==Brandine Spuckler==
[[Image:Brandine Spuckler.jpg|thumb|Brandine Spuckler]]
'''Brandine Spuckler''', also known as Brandine Del Roy and voiced by [[Tress MacNeille]], is the wife of [[Cletus Spuckler]] and mother to Tiffany, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermot, Jordan, Taylor, Brittany, Wesley, Rumor, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Clo, Max, Hunter, Kendall, Caitlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kyra, Ian, Lauren, Q-bert, Phil, Rubella, and Condoleezza Marie. She was also at one time going to be a foster mother to the Simpson children. Brandine is representative of so called "[[trailer trash]]" women in America's southern states and, like her husband, is a [[stereotype]]. Brandine and Cletus were married by [[Homer Simpson]] despite the fact that they are siblings and/or cousins. One episode even suggested they were mother and son. She has only been with him as long as anyone can tell, though she did at one point stay at a women's facility. She has been seen suffering from rabies and is also illiterate. She works as a stripper, though never in boots. In [[All's Fair in Oven War|one episode]], Brandine briefly left [[Cletus]] for [[James Caan]], who was promptly murdered by Cletus and some of Cletus' friends in a scene reminiscent of [[Sonny Corleone]]'s death in ''[[The Godfather]]''.

==Bumblebee Man==
[[Image:BumblebeeMan.gif|thumb|200px|Bumblebee Man]]
'''Bumblebee Man''' appears on a television show within the Simpsons universe dressed in a bumblebee costume. The TV station he works for is identified as "Canal Ocho" in several episodes. He is a caricature of "[[El Chapulín Colorado]]" (The Red Grasshopper), a character played and created by Mexican television comedian [[Chespirito]], and his show consists of simple skits, often involving heavy slapstick, in a parody of the "super hero" characters. In the episode "Team Homer," it is revealed on his bowling shirt that the Bumblebee Man's first name is Pedro.

In an issue of "Simpsons Comics", he states that he is actually from [[Belgium]], however "Simpsons Comics" are generally not considered [[canon (fiction)|canon]].

Bumblebee Man never takes off his costume, even when by himself, except in the episode "[[22 Short Films About Springfield]]". In that episode we see Bumblebee Man's private life and realize he is innately clumsy rather than simply acting as such. Nonetheless, in other episodes he is heard to speak with an articulate British accent; this has since been revealed in an episode commentary to have been a mistake. It is possible that he generally speaks with his bumbling on-screen accent to keep in practice. Also, in the Simpsons [[Bongo Comics]], he quotes Shakespeare.

His catchphrases of choice are typically "Ay, Ay, Ay, no me gusta!" ('I don't like it!'), "Ay, ay, ay, no es bueno!" ('That's not good!') and "Ay, ay, ay, Dios no me ama!" ('God does not love me!') In the Colombian [[Dubbing (filmmaking)|version]] of the show, the humour of Bumblebee Man rests only on the fact that he is wearing a gigantic bee costume and frequently prone to moments of [[slapstick]]; there has been no effort made to translate his speech to another language to add humour.

==Colonel O'Hara (Rich Texan) ==
[[Image:ColonelO'Hara.jpg|thumb|150px|left|Colonel O'Hara]]
'''Colonel Antoine "Tex" O'Hara''', also known as '''the Rich Texan''', is the owner of many a sports team or investment opportunity, and a [[dude ranch]] called "Lazy-I-Ranch." In place of a catchphrase, he is often seen jumping and tossing his [[ten-gallon hat]] while shouting, "YEE-HAW!" and firing into the air with a revolver or revolvers. It is important to note that Colonel O'Hara has developed a case of [[Obsessive Compulsive Disorder]] (OCD). In fact, every time he fires his revolver into the air, he is compelled to tap his foot four times, counting out loud: "YEE-HAW!, 1-2-3-4."

He is also the owner of the Omni-Pave Corporation, which is "sensitive to all your (our) eco-concerns", and a member of the [[Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]]. He was also the owner of a female greyhound, She's The Fastest, who fell in love with [[Santa's Little Helper (The Simpsons)|Santa's Little Helper]]. An oil tycoon, O'Hara owns a travelling carnival which Homer and Bart had to work at after Bart wrecked [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]]'s car. He is also associated with a conglomerate of oil tycoons that make foolish purchases, including a "stained-glass bathrobe, and the world's fattest racehorse". When Springfield mistakenly assumed that Lisa died from a freak tree accident, Tex dedicated a forest reserve in her honor. However, he later changed his mind and converted his plans into building a theme park ("[[Lisa Land]]") over the forestland.
In an early appearance, in the 5th season episode "[[$pringfield]]," Homer addresses him as Senator. In that episode, he gave Homer his hat, telling him "I wore it the day Kennedy was shot and it always brings me luck." In one episode, while getting a drink at Moe's Tavern, O'Hara reveals that he has a new liver and needs to break it in. Then Homer proceeds to beat him arm wrestling.

Due to his habit of shooting bullets into the air, the Texan was jailed for six months when one of his bullets hit a [[Texas Ranger Division|Texas Ranger]]. He seems to be having difficulty adjusting to blanks. He also has a connection to [[Jimbo Jones]].

The Colonel's name no doubt derives from that of Tex Antoine, a New York City TV weatherman famously fired in the 1970s for an on-air "joke": When the anchorman, after reading a story about a rape, turned to Anotoine for a forecast, the weatherman opined that when rape is inevitable, [the victim] might as well "lie back and enjoy it."

==Cookie Kwan== [[Image:Cookie Kwan.jpg|thumb|150px|right|Cookie Kwan]]

'''Cookie Kwan''' (voiced by [[Tress MacNeille]]) is a [[Korean-American]] realtor. She touts herself as being "number one on the West Side," although she also works in the East Side. She used to work at [[Lionel Hutz]]'s Red Blazer Real Estate office, in her first appearance, in episode 5F06, "[[Realty Bites]]". She has a prominent gold tooth.

She is very aggressive towards anyone whom she deems a threat to her business (she once threatened [[Gil]] warning him to "stay off the West side!"). She is single and often found on the Springfield dating scene. She's a little desperate; she once set her sights on Homer.

Cookie is one of twenty seven women to have (allegedly) had an extra marital [[love child]] with [[Mayor Quimby]]. Quimby himself refuses to acknowledge the child, and was last seen handing over his alleged baby to one of his minders to care for.

In reality, the last name 'Kwan' is very rare in Korea (although common in [[Hong Kong]]), but the idea of realtors having very positive, non-offensive names is why "Cookie" is a spoof of the [[real estate]] industry.

==Crazy Cat Lady (Eleanor Abernathy) ==
[[Image:Crazy Cat Lady.jpg|thumb|Eleanor Abernathy (Crazy Cat Lady)]]
'''Eleanor Abernathy''', voiced by [[Tress MacNeille]], is a woman who has the appearance and behavior of a stereotypical mentally ill homeless person. Usually known as the "'''Crazy Cat Lady'''," her true name, Abernathy, was revealed in the episode [[See Homer Run]]. She is perhaps in her more lucid phases a perpetrator of [[cat hoarding]]. She throws cats at residents of Springfield. In the episode "[[Homer and Ned's Hail Mary Pass]]", she could be seen appearing more relaxed by taking a medicine (actually [[Reese's Pieces]]), but she subsequently resumes acting crazily and hurling cats at people after Marge reveals what the "medicine" actually is. In the episode "[[I, D'oh-Bot]]", she throws a cat at Lisa, which she names "[[Snowball V]]" in secret and [[Snowball II]] in public. She also appeared in the episode "[[Girly Edition]]" where she also threw cats at Lisa, In the audio comentary of the fourth season of the Simpsons the creators (Matt Groening included) commented on her physical similarity to Ned Flanders' Mom, and even suggested on doing a show around that idea.

==Drederick Tatum==
[[Image:DrederickTatum.jpg|thumb|150px|left|Drederick Tatum]]
'''Drederick Tatum''' aka Mr. Armageddon is a professional [[Boxing|boxer]]. He has appeared in several episodes, most notably when [[Homer Simpson|Homer]] becomes a boxer. Tatum is a parody of [[Mike Tyson]]; he has a similar criminal record and [[Lisp (speech)|lisp]]. Tatum's manager is a [[Don King]] lookalike named [[Lucius Sweet]] (voiced by [[Paul Winfield]] who has actually portrayed King in the [[HBO]] movie ''Tyson'').

'''Quotes'''
*'''Tatum:''' I think Homer Simpson is a good man. I like him. I have nothing against him, but I will definitely make orphans of his children.

'''Reporter:''' Uh, you know, they do have a mother, Champ.

'''Tatum:''' Yes, but I would imagine that she would die of grief.
*Litter is my greatest foe: I would like to eat his children.
*We all know [[Pi#Geometry|πr²]], but today, pie 'r' justice and I welcome it.
*I have been paid millions to endorse these butt-ugly shoes.
*I insist that you desist.
*The money from this event is going to programs to help keep people like me off the streets. Punch and grope, punch and grope, it's all I was taught.

==Duffman==
[[Image:Duff Man.png|120px|thumb|Duffman]]
Barry '''Duffman''', voiced by [[Hank Azaria]], is the [[mascot]] and spokesman for the [[Duff Beer]] company. He is an athletic and smooth-talking corporate personality who wears blue and red tights, a red cape, white gloves, and the name "Duff" emblazoned across his chest. The ensemble features a red hat, dark sunglasses, and a belt of beer cans around his waist.

Though he is the corporate tool of Duff Beer, in one episode he was torn between the company he loved and the truth of the local team, the Isotopes, about how they were going to be moved to [[Albuquerque, New Mexico|Albuquerque]]. In the end, Duffman followed the slogan "[[What would Jesus do?]]" and sided with Homer.

It was revealed that he (or at least one of the actors that portray him) is [[Judaism|Jewish]] in the episode "[[Co-Dependent's Day]]", where [[Homer Simpson|Homer]] and [[Marge Simpson|Marge]] attend [[Oktoberfest]]. He is ashamed at having to shout, "This Reich will last a thousand beers! Oh, ''Ja''!" in imitation of the Nazi slogan of a [[Thousand Year Reich]]: "I do this, and I'm Jewish," he laments.

Duffman is generally known for his methodically slow speech, complete with dramatic pauses and ending with a suggestive "Oh, yeah!", often with a pelvic thrust. He also refers to himself in the [[third person]]. By sending in 10,000 Duff labels, Duff drinkers can bring Duffman to their own bar for a party with him and various Duff girls.

His real names have been said to be Sid, Larry, and, in the 2003 episode, “[[Old Yeller Belly]]”, he revealed himself as "plain ol’ Barry Duffman." Duffman is in fact played by several different people, sometimes simultaneously. In his own words (after Lenny said that Duffman had died of liver failure): "Duffman can never die, only the actors who play him!", a reference to corporate mascots such as [[Ronald McDonald]] and the [[Marlboro Man]] who have also been portrayed by multiple people. However, the Duffmen strive to hide this fact, so as not to disillusion children. Duffman was also shot by Frank Grimes Jr. in one episode, although whether he died or not was not shown. Another Duffman was possibly killed in a blimp crash after one of Homer's plans failed; it was then revealed that there were three Duffmans  working the game that night.

His theme song is "Oh Yeah" by Swiss band [[Yello]].

Duffman may be based on [[Budweiser]]'s disgraced mascot [[Bud Man]].

His is very similair to other Simpsons character [[Disco Stu]] due to both their needs to refer to themselves as the third person and the sunglasses they both almost always wear. The two characters have currently never met or been compared.

==Lou and Eddie==

'''Lou''' is the police sergeant. The name of his ex-wife is '''Amy'''. Lou often finds the time to correct [[Clancy Wiggum|Chief Wiggum]]. He is briefly promoted to Chief of Police when Wiggum becomes commissioner. He is briefly seen with an attractive woman that is implied to be a prostitute, carrying a case of beer to an impromptu party at the house of a blind man whom he has helped to arrest on [[marijuana]] possession charges. [[Hank Azaria]] admitted in an interview with [[Conan O'Brien]] that Lou's voice is based on [[Sylvester Stallone]]'s. In early episodes Lou was [[Caucasian race|caucasian]], possibly [[Italian-American]], he was later changed to [[African-American]], maybe to avoid similarities with Stallone.

'''Eddie''' is a police officer. He rarely speaks, though he is always there at every case, with Lou and Wiggum. Lou complains occasionally that Eddie has been seeing his ex-wife, causing [[Chief Wiggum]] to act as [[mediator]]. One of Eddie's most humiliating moments is when he is forced to wear a [[bear]] costume and play the character of Curtis E. Bear (The Courtesy Bear) in front of a class of dangerous drivers. He is beaten severely by the class members when [[Chief Wiggum]] encourages them to take out their frustrations on Eddie. When Lou is promoted to Chief of Police, Eddie is promoted to "Lou." In ''[[Worst Episode Ever]]'', Eddie vomits at the sight of naked Agnes Skinner and the Comic Book Guy and Lou tells him, "It's okay, man. If it doesn't affect you, you're not human."

Neither of their surnames have ever been shown. In one episode they are quoted saying that they don't have surnames, much like [[Cher (entertainer)|Cher]]. Another officer is sometimes shown, as well as one appearance of [[#Luigi Re Soto|Luigi]] in one of his many jobs.

==Frankie the Squealer==
[[Image:Frankie the Squealer.jpg|thumb|Frankie the Squealer]]
'''Frankie the Squealer''' is another member of the Mafia and associate of Fat Tony. However, he does not appear to be very useful to his colleagues in criminal activity due to his uncontrollable habit of squealing (he claims that "it makes [him] feel big"). On several occasions, the mob has attempted to kill him for his squealing, though they have always been unsuccessful.

He was seen once on the ocean floor, his feet in a conrete block, and dead.

==Ol' Gil==
[[Image:gil.jpg|thumb|left|Gil]]
'''Ol' Gil''', or just "Gil", (Voiced by [[Dan Castellaneta]]) is a perpetual loser, a nervous, middle-aged man with the inability to hold a steady job, due to strings of misfortunes that tend to hit him at the worst times. He has been seen holding any number of jobs, first as a real estate salesman, but also as a used car salesman, doorbell salesman, [[Coleco]] computer salesman, bank teller newspaper subscription salesman, corn farmer and in one episode he appeared working at the Kwik-E-Mart. Since the departure of [[Lionel Hutz]] from the series, Gil has been used as a cheap replacement lawyer in court scenes. Gil always refers to himself in the third person.

Gil is married; in the episode "[[Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers"|Marge Simpson in: 'Screaming Yellow Honkers']]", he mentions that his wife will leave him if he doesn't start "bringing in the green." In the same episode, he telephones his wife and overhears her carousing with 'Fred'. She then asks Gil if he would like to speak to Fred. [http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF10]

Since then, Gil has apparently been living at the Springfield Men's Mission (a [[hostel]] for down and outs), although he was seen being forceably ejected from the premises because he had overstayed the "6 month occupancy limit." A defiant Gil walked straight into a shady organ donor clinic, to sell his [[eyes]] for [[cash]].

The episode "[['Tis The Fifteenth Season]]" includes a brief scene showing Gil committing suicide by hanging himself with Christmas lights. But he appears later in the same episode ice skating at Homer's house with the Christmas lights around his neck, suggesting that the cable snapped when he let himself hang.

In another of his string of dead-end jobs, Gil is revealed inside a basketball mascot costume. The ball is decorated as a female with very shapely legs and high heels. He dances around until someone knocks his costume off to reveal Ol' Gil inside. Moe then proposes to him and requests he put the costume back on and be a girl for a little longer, to which Gil asks for how long and how much.

The character is based on [[Jack Lemmon]]'s portrayal of salesman Shelley "The Machine" Levene in the [[1992]] movie adaptation of [[David Mamet]]'s [[Pulitzer prize]]-winning play ''[[Glengarry Glen Ross]]'' and the character first appeared in an episode parodying the play entitled "Realty Bites."

He can be compared to [[Kirk Van Houten]] due to his bad luck, bad love life and frequent unemployment

==God==
[[Image:Homer_the_Heretic.gif|left|Homer and God]]
'''[[God]]''', voiced by [[Harry Shearer]], has enjoyed regular appearances in the series, most notably in [[Homer the Heretic]]. He is portrayed in the traditional depiction of God - a grey-haired man in a white robe. He seems not to know very much - for instance, when referring to [[Jesus|His son]], he stated that he didn't know "[[Crucifixion|what your people did to Him]]".

One of the most notable scenes that He was involved in is when [[Homer Simpson|Homer]] asked Him to turn back the [[Rapture]], and after agreeing, He said "[[Deus ex Machina]]" and all seemingly returned to normal - although whether or not it were all supposed to have actually happened is ambiguous.

His face is never seen, with the exception of one early appearance. He is routinely drawn with four fingers (and thumb) instead of the usual ''Simpsons'' three and thumb.

==Gunter and Ernst==
[[Image:gunter_and_ernst.gif|thumb|right|Gunter & Ernst]]
'''Gunter''' and '''Ernst''' are tiger-tamers voiced by [[Harry Shearer]] and [[Hank Azaria]]. They are an obvious parody of [[Siegfried & Roy]]. In the episode [[$pringfield]], they were savagely mauled by their trademark white tiger, Anastasia. A little over 10 years later, a similar incident happened to the real [[Siegfried & Roy]], when Roy Horn was attacked and dragged by his throat during a performance by his trained tiger [[Montecore]].

The duo appear in the episodes [[Viva Ned Flanders]], [[$pringfield]], and [[The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons]]. They are frequently implied to be gay, as at the end of Viva Ned Flanders when Homer and Ned's new wives dump the bad husbands at the city limits. Ginger says "We found some guys that know how to treat a woman" indicating Gunter and Ernst, who look at each other uncomfortably and knowingly, and the tiger rolls its eyes.

==Hans Moleman==
[[Hans Moleman]] is a short, feeble Springfield resident. Despite his apparently old age, and his residence at the Springfield Retirement Castle, he claims to be 31 years old, and that his alcoholism has brought him to his current state, although, when Lisa goes to college, he is seen claiming to be 80. He is also extremely visually imparied, despite his spectacles; when reading an eye chart, he evidently sees a question mark and a smiley face among the letters. Once dated Selma, who became distraught over picturing what their children would look like. He also produced and starred in a short film, entitled ''Man Getting Hit By Football'', in which an oncoming football hits Moleman in the groin; [[George C. Scott]]'s remake of the film earned an Academy award. Moleman is often thrown in as a gag character, often as the luckless sole victim of some sort of catastrophe. His car crash into the side of the newly opened Planet Hype is mistaken for a kitschy sculpture. He is left in the Springfield Hospital's X-ray room while Dr. Hibbert goes home for the weekend. At the end of one episode, Homer accidently runs over him and both sides shortly ignore the incident as Moleman simply gets up and walks away. When Bart and Lisa get into a childish argument over which one of them is "gay for Moleman," Moleman sadly laments, "No one's gay for Moleman."

==Herman==
'''Herman''', voiced by [[Harry Shearer]], is the owner of a military antiques store, '''Herman's Military Antiques'''. He dresses in [[Battle Dress Uniform|military fatigues]]. He has only one arm; the other arm was lost by sticking it out of the window of a moving bus, although the writers had originally intended for him to give a different reason each time he appeared (Similar to [[Jonah Hex]]). His voice is similar to that of [[George H.W. Bush]], and he is somewhat based on Simpsons writer [[John Swartzwelder]].

He is friends with [[Abraham Simpson]], to whom he sold a [[fez (clothing)|fez hat]], claiming it was previously owned by [[Napoleon]], after briefly owning "the hat [[William McKinley|McKinley]] was shot in." He later negotiated a peace treaty between [[Bart Simpson]] and the bully [[Nelson Muntz]]. He also tried to sell counterfeit jeans out of the Simpson's car hole, but was foiled by [[Marge Simpson]].

He once captured Chief Wiggum and Snake and held them hostage in a scene reminiscent of [[Pulp Fiction]], but was thwarted by Milhouse Van Houten wielding a flail.

Herman possesses a small scale tactical [[nuclear bomb]], designed by the government during the 1950s to be dropped from a [[B-52 Stratofortress|B-52]] onto [[Beatnik]]s. He keeps it in a plot of land behind his store, and usually only brings potential buyers to see it on special occasions: when [[Homer Simpson|Homer]] and his friends were buying dozens of guns, Herman assumed they were a bachelor party of some kind, but when Homer told him they were forming a vigilante movement, Herman brought him to see the Bomb. The Bomb has a sign next to it which reads "Do Not Ride The Bomb", a rule which Homer promptly broke (spoofing [[Dr. Strangelove]]).

In one of the "Treehouse" episodes, Herman tries to sell Homer a [[nuclear bomb]] shelter, boasting that it can withstand the force of a 6 [[Megaton]] blast, no more, no less. This seems to be true, as Homer does survive a nuclear blast in the shelter, but then again thanks to the layers of lead paint on his house, so does his family.

==Hyman Krustofsky==
[[Image:rabbin.gif|thumb|Hyman Krustofski|100px|right]]

'''Hyman Krustofsky''' (voiced by [[Jackie Mason]] and occasionally by [[Dan Castellaneta]]) is the father of [[Krusty the Klown]]. He is the [[rabbi]] at the local [[synagogue]]. Perhaps a reference to the [[Al Jolson]] film [[The Jazz Singer]], Krusty and his father became estranged when Hyman discovered that his son was the entertainment at a dinner he was attending. Hyman very strongly disapproved of his son's profession and the disrespect he had for his Jewish heritage. Thanks to the efforts of Bart and Lisa, the pair were reunited and made amends. More recently, Hyman officiated at his son's belated [[Bar Mitzvah]].

He was first introduced in the [[List of The Simpsons episodes#Season 3: 1991-1992|third season]] episode "[[Like Father, Like Clown]]".

==Jack Larson==
'''Jack Larson''' is a slick spokesman for [[Laramie Cigarettes]] and once owned the Springfield Isotopes. He also was the spokesperson for the Little Miss Springfield pageant with Laramie cigarettes as the main sponsor in a commercial advertisement that Homer saw on TV at Moe's while he tried to figure out a way to increase Lisa's self-esteem.
==Janey==
'''Janey''' is Lisa's best friend (Note: Powell is her last name in Bart Simpson's Guide To Life, Henderson is her last name in the episode "My Fair Laddy"). Janey is one of the few [[African-American]] characters on [[The Simpsons]]. Besides the wife and daughter of Dr. [[Julius Hibbert]], she may be the only Black female character. She is the closest person that [[Lisa Simpson]] has as a best friend. She has spent the night over the Simpsons' house. However, at times, she seems to resent Lisa and her intelligence just as other [[Springfield Elementary School]] students do. She once blew a bubble with chewing gum rather than engage in Lisa's conversation. She may have a crush on [[Milhouse Van Houten]] who has a crush on Lisa. She usually says one line at most on the few episodes that feature her. She does not have a stereotypical voice, nor does she make any statements about African-American culture, politics, or history. Unlike many predominately [[Caucasian]] sitcoms that include a love interest between the lone Black male and lone Black female, there is no interaction between Janey and [[Lewis]], the Black male student at Springfield Elementary. She enjoys reading Babysitting magazines. She is voiced by [[Pamela Hayden]].

==Jebediah Springfield==
[[Image:The Simpsons-Jebediah Springfield.png|thumb|right|Jebediah Springfield]]
Might be a parody of [[Jeremiah Johnson]] or [[Jedediah Smith]]. '''Jebediah Obadiah Zachariah Jedediah Springfield''' is the purported historical founder of the [[Springfield (The Simpsons)|town of Springfield]]. Springfield had many famous quotations, such as "A noble spirit [[Made-up words in The Simpsons|embiggens]] the smallest man," and was well known for his [[silver tongue]] (literally; the silver tongue was a [[prosthesis]], his original tongue having been bitten off by a [[Turkic peoples|Turkish]] pirate in a grog house fight).

Springfield led a band of wagons westward along with his partner [[Shelbyville Manhattan]]; but they parted ways when Manhattan wanted to found a town where people could marry their cousins, and Springfield wanted a town devoted to: [[chastity]], [[abstinence]], a flavorless mush he called root-marm and where people would be free to worship how they wanted and "grow [[hemp]] for making ropes." Manhattan went on to found the rival town of [[Shelbyville (The Simpsons)|Shelbyville]].

In the winter of [[1848]] Jebediah reportedly built Springfield's first hospital alone out of wood and mud.

On an expedition to Springfield's historic "[[Fort Sensible]]," [[Bart Simpson]] uncovered inconsistencies in the Jebediah legend. In "[[Lisa the Iconoclast]]," [[Lisa Simpson]] proved that "Jebediah Springfield" was a bloodthirsty pirate and enemy of [[George Washington]] named '''Hans Sprungfeld''', who had changed his name to hide and who hated the town of Springfield.

Springfield is said to have dramatically killed a bear with his bare hands. A statue of this sits in the center of the Springfield town square, in front of the city hall. Contemporary historians believe that the bear story is probably untrue, and that the bear probably killed him. He is also said to have once tamed an untamable buffalo (although he later secretly admitted that it had already been tame; he merely shot it). The Springfield Marathon commemorates an occasion on which he ran across six states in order to avoid his creditors. In "[[The Telltale Head]]," Bart beheaded the statue, thinking that this would make him more popular. In reality, the town became depressed and angry, leaving Bart to endure "[[The Tell-Tale Heart]]"-style guilt before replacing it. If a viewer watches carefully it may be noticed that the finger being held up on the statue of Jebediah changes from the index finger to the middle finger from time to time.

==Jessica Lovejoy==
[[Image:JessicaLovejoy.jpg|thumb|150px|Jessica Lovejoy]]
Jessica Lovejoy is the rebellious daughter of [[Reverend Lovejoy]] and [[Helen Lovejoy]]. Attractive, devious and wilful, she was Bart's first crush. In a later non-speaking appearance, she and her father were participants in a robot fighting competition. Their creation, a [[centipede]]-like machine, was defeated by "Chief Knock-a-Homer", Homer and Bart's entry. Voiced by [[Meryl Streep]]

==Johnny Tightlips==
'''Johnny Tightlips''' is a member of the Mafia and associate of [[Fat Tony]]. He says very little, which spares him from accusations of being a "squealer," but his reticence tends to be unhelpful to himself or others.

In the episode "[[Insane Clown Poppy]]", there is a shoot-out in Fat Tony's mansion and Tightlips is shot by accident:

'''Legs:''' Johnny Tightlips! Where did they get you? 
'''Tightlips:''' I ain't sayin' nothin'. 
'''Legs:''' But what will I tell the doctor? 
'''Tightlips:''' Tell 'im to go suck a lemon.

Also appearing in the episode "[[Papa's Got a Brand New Badge]]": 
'''Fat Tony:''' Ahh, my Joi'zee muscle... It's so good to see you. Did you have a nice flight
Johnny Tightlips? 
'''Johnny Tightlips:''' I ain't sayin' nothin' 
'''Fat Tony:''' I undastand.. How is your motha'? 
'''Johnny Tightlips:''' Oh ey, who says I have a motha? 
 
'''Fat Tony:''' Johnny Tightlips, can you see the shooter? 
'''Johnny Tightlips:''' I see a lot of things... 
'''Fat Tony:''' You know, you could be a little more helpful. 

Johnny Tightlips is a reference to [[Frank Gusenberg|Frank "Tight Lips" Gusenberg]], who was shot down in the [[St. Valentine's Day Massacre]] and replied "nobody shot me" while dying.

==Judge Constance Harm==

'''Judge Constance Harm''' is a judge in Springfield who lives in a [[houseboat]] (which Homer put a cinderblock through with the amusing quotation "Oh Lord, guide this cinderblock" - he was originally aiming for her head). She is voiced by [[Jane Kaczmarek]] and is known for her strict and harsh punishment, similar to [[Judge Judy]]. This is logical, assuming the fact that her name is a pun on "[[constant]] [[harm]]" It is implied that she is a [[transsexual]] but it is never confirmed or denied -- she once remarked that Bart reminded her of herself when "she was a little boy".

==Judge Roy Snyder==
[[Image:judgeroy.jpg|thumb|150px|Judge Roy Snyder]]
'''Judge Roy Snyder''' is a judge in Springfield. Starting off as stern and no-nonsense (with a grudge against [[Lionel Hutz]] for running over his son repeatedly) and originally Jewish, Snyder later became an African-American and known for his lenient punishment despite bearing a resemblance to Judge [[Robert Bork]]. He was seen in Ned Flanders's film, ''Tales of the Old Testament'', cutting himself in half. Judge Snyder has a little clown figure on his desk which means that his rulings are official. In one episode, he came back from vacation, placed the clown on his desk, and said, "Well, I'm back from vacation," just as [[Judge Constance Harm]] was about to bang her gavel, making the sentence (sending Bart to juvie) final. "Now, it's too late. I've already put my clown down," Judge Snyder replied. Judge Harm tried to argue, "But..." she began. Judge Snyder sternly replied, "THE CLOWN IS DOWN." and proceeded to rule that boys will be boys and dismissed Bart's case.

==Legs and Louie==
'''Legs''' and '''Louie''' are the two mafia hitman who accompany [[Fat Tony]] at all times.

Fans often get the two confused due to neither of them having any real diffenitive characteristic and because they are almost always seen together. Legs has a short haircut and Louie has a slight afro. Louie says that tear gas is "[his] one weakness," though this is likely an embellishment. Louie is based upon the character actor [[Frank Sivero]], who has played gangster roles in films such as Goodfellas and The Godfather Part II.

==Lindsey Naegle==
[[Image:naegle.jpg|thumb|170px|Lindsey Naegle]]
'''Lindsey Naegle''' (voiced by [[Tress MacNeille]]) is a fictional character from ''[[The Simpsons]]'', whose first appearance was in the episode "[[The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show]]." The unnamed character was simply referred to as "Female Network Executive," and she later returned once again in "[[Girly Edition]]."

In "[[They Saved Lisa's Brain]]", the character was introduced as Lindsey Naegle, a member of the Springfield [[Mensa International|Mensa]] Society.

Over the course of the series, Lindsey has popped up in several capacities, working a seemingly different job in every episode. Her professional job titles have included the aforementioned network executive, as well as [[marketing]] researcher, financial planner (also making a point that she wasn't a financial consultant), [[public relations]] consultant, [[venture capitalist]] (her company, Advanced Capital Ventures, specializes in synergy and books on how to cheat at [[bridge (game)|bridge]]), [[advertising]] executive, and executive with the Child Development Group. Naegle once dated Ned Flanders, but the date was interrupted by Naegle receiving a fax (from a fax machine strapped to her leg) which indicated she had been indicted. She is an enthusiastic practicer of the [[childfree]] lifestyle, and at one point spearheads a movement to make Springfield less child-friendly. Once romantically linked with Judge Roy Snyder, she is a graduate from the [[Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania|University of Pennsylvania Wharton Business School]]. She is a stereotypical upper [[management]] [[Corporate officer|executive]], and her ventures almost always promote the business [[buzzword]] "[[synergy]]."

Lindsey once stated that she keeps changing jobs because she is a [[sexual predator]]. While working for Child Development Group, she shared a hot tub and champagne with fellow executive Jim Hope. She is also an alcoholic.

Named in honor of Sue Naegle, a partner at [[United Talent Agency]] who represents several Simpsons writers.

==Luigi Risotto==
'''Luigi Risotto''', voiced by [[Hank Azaria]], is the proprietor of the local Italian restaurant. He is a parody of the "Italian pasta/pizza chef" stereotype (which he seems to realize). He often treats his customers rudely and cruelly, insulting and belittling them both under his breath and shouting to the chef Salvatore loud enough for everyone to hear. It is possible he is an [[illegal immigrant]]. He also found it sensitive when Principal Skinner had the school rename pizza "Italian-American Sauce-Bread."

Luigi seems to have some connections to the mafia as [[Fat Tony]] is a frequent customer at his restaurant. Also, he once claimed to have hired his friend to place a horse's head under Homer's bed for giving his restaurant a bad review. Homer subsequently ate the head and gave it a bad review.

His name is a play on the Italian food [[risotto]]. He doesn't actually speak Italian, only broken English ("fractured English", as he calls it), because that's what his parents spoke at home.

==Lugash==
'''Lugash''', voiced by [[Dan Castellaneta]], is a [[gymnastics]] instructor (and an obvious parody of former [[Olympic Summer Games|Olympics]] coach [[Bela Karolyi]]) who has his own gym. He has a thick [[Romania]]n accent and has appeared in several episodes, premiering in [[Children of a Lesser Clod]]. His origin is a bit mysterious as he says that he came into the United States in [[1983]] by [[cartwheel|cartwheeling]] over the [[Berlin Wall]]. However, another character in a later episode says that he [[defector|defected]] '''''into''''' [[East Germany]]. His harsh but effective training techniques once helped [[Lisa Simpson|Lisa]] to achieve a high standard of gymnastic ability. He also has a habit of confiscating his students' cats and dogs, only giving them back when the student has accomplished a physical task.

* '''Lugash''': You work very well today. Here is your cat back. '''Student''': But I had a dog! '''Lugash''': Is cat now!

*'''Lugash:''' I give you stank! I am Lugash.
*'''Lugash:''' Hello little girl, how old are you? '''Lisa:''' Eight. '''Lugash:''' EIGHT? BAH, TOO OLD! GO HOME GRANDMA!.. I am sorry little girl, Lugash must go next door to anger management class. STUPID ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS!

==Manjula Nahasapeemapetilon==
[[Image:Manjula.jpg|thumb|150px|left|Manjula Nahasapeemapetilon]]
'''Manjula''' (voice by [[Jan Hooks]]) is [[Apu Nahasapeemapetilon|Apu]]'s wife and mother of the octuplets. She was [[Arranged marriage|arranged to be married]] to Apu when she was very young and Apu was to set out to America for college ([[The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons]]). She also works at the Kwik-E-Mart. She claims that [[Fried Green Tomatoes]] is her favorite book, movie and food. In ''[[The Sweetest Apu]]'', Apu has an affair with a beautiful blonde Squishee lady. After Homer discovers this, he and Marge reveal the discovery to Apu, who eventually caves into the guilt and vows to apologize to Manjula. Manjula, however, already knows and kicks Apu out of the house. With some help from the Simpson family, she eventually agrees to give Apu another chance after he completes an often-vengeful list of grueling tasks fashioned by Manjula. Since then, their relationship has been strained, with Manjula often making remarks at her husband's expense. Homer seems to think her name is Apulina; once, when the two were arguing in [[Hindi]], he commented he thought "Manjula" meant "spaceship."

==Menthol Moose==
'''Menthol Moose''' is the spokesperson (mascot) for [[Laramie Cigarettes]]. He is a takeoff of [[Joe Camel]], the spokesperson (mascot) of [[Camel Cigarettes]]. He is featured in about 4 episodes. In one episode Laramie advertises that they need a replacement for Menthol Moose after he is diagnosed with [[cancer]]. This leads to Santa's Little Helper becoming the new mascot.

==Sanjay Nahasapeemapetilon==
'''[[Sanjay]] Nahasapeemapetilon''' is [[Apu Nahasapeemapetilon|Apu]]'s brother. He has a daughter and a son, named '''Pahusacheta''' and '''Jamshed'''. Sanjay sometimes runs the store with Apu, but he is not there all the time. Sometimes he skips out on his shift, which aggravates Apu to no end. He is also hinted to be a nudist like Apu. He has been seen with Princess Kashmir.

*'''Sanjay:''' (to Apu) 'If I die, promise me you won't sleep with my wife' '''Apu:''' 'I promise nothing.'

==Sarcastic Middle-Aged Man==
The '''Sarcastic Middle-Aged Man''' is a man with a [[sarcasm|sarcastic]] outlook on life. He has held numerous jobs in Springfield including: garage owner, mail man, [[taxi]] driver, and various shop clerks. His voice is intended to resemble [[Charles Bronson]], as seen when the Simpsons try to travel to [[Branson, Missouri]], but mistakingly end up in Bronson, Missouri first. One episode gives his first name as '''Rafael''', which [[Sideshow Bob]] called him in "[[Day of the Jackanapes]]". He often calls people, "pally".

*(''Heard from a crowd around an overly obese Homer''): "Hey fatty, I got a movie for ya: ''A Fridge Too Far''."

*'''Homer:''' "What are you, a junkie or an ex-convict?' '''Sarcastic Middle-Aged Man:''' "A little of both".

*"So, you don't like the old time bikes huh'?"

*"Do yourself a favor, invent yourself some underpants."

*''(To [[Comic Book Guy]] trying to return a too small belt)'' "Whoa, whoa. A fat, sarcastic Star Trek fan. You must be a devil with the ladies."

In one episode, he is called Raphael Maffia and is seen at a club with Fat Tony and others.

==Sarah Wiggum==
'''Sarah Wiggum''' is the wife of [[Chief Wiggum]] and mother of [[Ralph Wiggum]]. She met her future [[husband]] when she was arrested by him, having planted [[Methamphetamine|crystal meth]] on her to make him "notice" her. Her name is derived from an "Andy Griffith Show" gag. In that show, Andy would call up the town's operator named Sarah, and Andy would say something along the lines of, "Sarah, could you get me Aunt Bea?" In ''Grade School Confidential'', Wiggum similarly picks up the phone and says "Sarah, get me Superintendent Chalmers" and his wife dutifully begins to dial the phone.

Although she is often seen around Springfield, Mrs. Wiggum remains one of ''The Simpsons'' more mysterious characters. It is vaguely hinted in some of Ralph's dialogue, as well as some other sources such as ''The Ralph Wiggum Book'' that Mrs.Wiggum can be rather disturbingly neglectful towards Ralph, such as leaving the house and forgetting him by accident. Although Chief Wiggum has a very loving relationship with Ralph he often works long hours, which would leave Ralph by himself. This could explain some of Ralph's awkward behavior, but this has not been formally brought up in the series. In most cases however, she seems to be very loving towards her family. Clancy's own opinion of his wife tends to fluctuate between complete love, and possibly slight bordom and indifference although he seems to genuinly love his wife...although he isn't above flirtation with other women or possibly even courtship with prostitutes. Sarah's relationship with Ralph seems just as loving as Clancy's despite the occasional hint of [[negligence]] in similar vein.

Considering her son's awkward behavior and her husband's often dubious escapades, she probably has a lot of patience. However, she may have been driven to alcoholism, as hinted by Ralph's line, "You look like my Mommy after her box of wine." As very little has been revealed about the character, all of this is speculative of course.
In the few episodes where she speaks, she sounds a little bit like a female version of her hushand much to fan amusement. Sarah has light purple colored, neck-length hair and has a somewhat stocky build. Her facial features resemble Ralph, who probably takes after her in this regard.

=="Yes" guy==
[[Image:yes guy.png|thumb|120px|"Yes" Guy]]
The "Yes" guy is a character known for saying "Ye-e-e-es?" in a rising inflection, and appears to be highly eccentric in both his speech and appearance. He has appeared several times working with several jobs: waiter, employee at Costington's, Death Row guard, and ice cream man. Apparently, his name is Raoul, but he was once referred to by Homer Simpson as "that jerk that goes 'Ye-e-e-es?'" in "[[Homer vs. Dignity]]", and has explained he speaks this way because of a [[stroke|"Strooooooke"]] . He was [[inspired]] by [[Frank Nelson]] of ''[[The Jack Benny Show]]'' and later ''[[Sanford and Son]]'', whose trademark greeting in all his characters was a long drawn-out "yeeeeesss?". Nelson's character always seemed to inexplicably be working wherever [[Jack Benny|Benny]] or [[Redd Foxx|Fred Sanford]] patronized, and his Simpsonian counterpart is equally omnipresent. There was also a [[Brazil]]ian version seen, uttering a Portuguese variation of the catchphrase ("Si-i-i-i-im" - which is Portuguese for yes). He can be described physically as a rather squat, stocky man with a [[mustache]] and a possible [[comb over|comb-over]] of black hair.

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Talk:Laterality

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Sathyan Bhrama: This is a seperate topic

==Merger proposal==
"It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into handedness. (Discuss)"
*'''Do not merge'''. Laterality involves more than handedness. [[Ocular dominance]] is one example that comes to mind. [[User:AED|AED]] 23:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
**In my opinion, however, Handedness is one aspect of Laterality, and can be one section of the article. On the other hand, the article of Handedness is long enough to merit its own article, and in that case, it may be wiser to keep it as a separate article... [[User:Kareeser|Kareeser]]|[[User talk:Kareeser|Talk!]] 16:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
*Do not merge. But if you have to you could always summerize each artile with a

{{Main|Left-handed}}
{{Main|Right-handed}}
{{Main|Ambidexterity}}
{{Main|Left-handed}}
{{Main|Cross-dominance}}
::and so forth--[[User:Yskyflyer|E-Bod]] 02:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I '''support''' a merge of a lot of this information.
[[Handedness]] should merge in [[Right-handed]], [[Cross-dominance]], [[Ambidexterity]], and a good chunk of [[Left-handed]]. [[Left-handed]] has some culture associated with it (e.g. "correlation between committing sexual crimes against children and being left-handed"[[Left-handed#Left-handedness and sexual offences|[1]]]) so if there's strong feelings those parts could be retained in a separate article, although the article should be renamed to make it clear that its not just simply about left-handedness. [[Laterality]] doesn't add much, although it could be expanded -- if it isn't merged it should use "Main article" links. [[Footedness]] is mostly about skateboarding, maybe it could be moved to [[Boarding stance]] to make that clear. [[User:Ewlyahoocom|Ewlyahoocom]] 17:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose merger.''' While they are maybe similar, they are quite different and should have different pages. Further, each page is quite long, so having a full page will all of the handednesses in them would be sickening to look at. The navigation template at the bottom of each page is good enough of a directory to jump from page to page. --[[User:JP06035|Jared]] [[User_talk:JP06035|[T]]]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JP06035&action=edit&section=new [+<nowiki>]</nowiki>] 20:25, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
**Hmmm, are we looking at the same pages? [[Ambidexterity]] is 5 paragraphs; [[Cross-dominance]] is 3 sentences; [[Right-handed]] is 4 paragraphs; [[Laterality]] is 6 paragraphs. These are "long" pages? And that's not even discounting the bits that are already duplicated! [[User:Ewlyahoocom|Ewlyahoocom]] 20:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
***Oh, I take back what I said...I based what I said on the Left-handed page (without looking at the others), which is a whole dictionary in itself. While the other pages are short, yes, I believe it leaves room for improvement and the pages should be left separate. Maybe Amnidexterity and crossdominance should be combined, if anything, because they are so closely related. --[[User:JP06035|Jared]] [[User_talk:JP06035|[T]]]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JP06035&action=edit&section=new [+<nowiki>]</nowiki>] 21:00, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support merger.''' These articles are obvious candidates for merger. --[[User:Ignignot|Ignignot]] 17:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
*Support '''Merge'''. As far as I can tell, the laterality article and nearly all of the related ones proposed for merger, deal with biological, physiological, and possibly cognitive issues relevant to laterality in animals. These articles cover different aspects of laterality but are best understood when treated under a single umbrella category. Most of these articles, even the stubs, contain redundant information and require links to the other articles in order to fully understand any single sub-category. Only the article on left-handedness has a reasonable need to be an independent article, and that is because left-handedness has a long cultural / social history that presents unique considerations beyond the biological ones. [[User:Ande B.|Ande B]] 06:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

===From [[Talk:Handedness#Proposed merger]]===

The idea of merging all handedness articles together is a bad one. Wikipedia has space requirements and a single article can't do justice to all subjects. [[User:Durova|Durova]] 02:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:I also agree with Durova, with the exception of the two articles [[cross-dominance]] and [[ambidexterity]]. Left-handedness and Right-handedness are long enough to merit their own articles. However, cross-dominance and ambidexterity can be easily merged, as they do not contain too much information. I will watch this page and carry out the merger in 10 days if (and only if) nobody replies. [[User:Kareeser|Kareeser]]|[[User talk:Kareeser|Talk!]] 02:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wikipedia's succes is also based on the importance of bringing individual standpoints to general sections. The merging of handedness articles is not a good idea. —''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:151.198.55.168|151.198.55.168]] ([[User talk:151.198.55.168|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/151.198.55.168|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
::True, 151.198.55.168, but what of the two articles [[cross-dominance]] and [[ambidexterity]]? The two article are much too short to merit article on their own. If placed in the "handedness" article, they could be more easily accessed and contrbuted to, and in time, when enough information has gathered, they may once again be split into their own separate articles. [[User:Kareeser|Kareeser]]|[[User talk:Kareeser|Talk!]] 21:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

DO NOT MERGE!

===From [[Talk:Handedness#Shared material with left-handed]]===

This article shares a fair amount of material with [[left-handed]]; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- [[User:Pne|pne]] 10:25, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

: Agreed. I think [[left-handed]] should be turned into a redirect to this article, with some tweaks here. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] 11:44, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

::[[Right-handed]] should be the same way, too. - [[User:Furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:Furrykef|Talk at me]]) 18:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Definitely not. The term "laterality" is something students of psychology and biology might be looking up. The article should remain seperate and await more contributers who can write about studies concerning left and right hemispheres.

simply have a smaller wiki page for handedness in principle and examples thereof, two of which will be left/right handedness in humans.

What of Ambidexterity? --[[User:FlareNUKE|FlareNUKE]] 00:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's hard to find reliable information on ambidexterity. Few studies have been performed and the most if not all of them are compromised by sampling flaws. [[User:Durova|Durova]] 03:12, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

===From [[Talk:Left-handed#Shared material with handedness]]===

This article shares a fair bit of material with [[handedness]]; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- [[User:Pne|pne]] 10:24, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

: : Agreed. I think left-handed should be turned into a redirect to [[handedness]] with some material shifted over. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] 11:45, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

:::Also, article [[laterality]] seems a bit superfulous [[User:Ianbrown|Ianbrown]] 13:51, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

: : Left-handedness has a specific and distinct cultural history. Perhaps the contents of [[handedness]] should be streamlined in order to limit shared material, but the article left-handedness is certainly relevant.

::: I agree, left-handedness is of enough cultural significance to have its own article. If anything, [[handedness]] should have its shared information removed since the majority of it deals specifically with left-handedness. I mean it's hard to put much information in about right-handedness that isn't pointless (like making a [[List of famous right-handed people]]). Handedness should just have a bit of information pertaining to handedness itself, things like most primates favoring one hand over the other, and the links to the right and left-handed pages.-[[User:GamblinMonkey|GamblinMonkey]] 15:47, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:: I agree: keep left-handedness in an article of its own. [[User:PatrickHadfield|PatrickHadfield]] 17:01 BST 27 Mar 2006

Left-handedness is definitely long enough to be its own article. Cross dominance and embidexterity also pose a clear merger. The majority of people here seem to oppose the merging of handedness and footedness into Laterality, so I will remove the merge tags. Though ocular dominance has not been discussed, I will assume the same applies. If after a long time handedness, footedness, and ocular doominance are still not expanded, however, it may be wise to merge them here. [[User:IrishJew|Avraham]] 20:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

'''NO MERGER.''' if one sees that the main point of an encyclopedia is to distribute information then one must also see that an encyclopedia must make said information easy to find if one accepts those statements as true then one must think "what is someone who wishes to find out about left handedness likely look for it under" i would imagine that you would come to the conclusion that they are most likely to look for it under "left handedness" therefore no merger [[User:Unregistered text offender|Unregistered text offender]] 10:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== Merge = confusion ==

I agree, handedness IS a part of laterality, but handedness is more often than not talked about by itself. Handedness is a more obvious difference than laterality. Many people do not think about laterality as a collection of all dominances (or even know '''what''' laterality is), but rather talk about the individual dominances by themselves (right-handedness, left-footedness, etc).

If the merge were to occur, I believe there would be a lot of confusion for people who search wikipedia for specifically left/right-handedness. Someone who is new to the idea of laterality would see that they had been led to an article on laterality may be quite confused - I, myself, only just came across the word today, and only because of this discussion.

Just leave it as it is, it will save everyone a lot of confusion, and (as someone else pointed out) it will save the article from becoming an epic saga!

[[User:Mandab|manda]] 08:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is a seperate topic ==

Though handedness is a case of laterality..it is a well know case, which can be linked to laterality instead with a see also quote--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 13:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Right-handedness

2006-05-19T12:59:40Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

{{expansion}}
{{mergeto|Laterality}}
One who is '''right-handed''' is more dextrous with one's [[Left and right|right]] [[hand]] than with one's [[Left and right|left]] hand: one will write with their right hand, and probably also use this hand for tasks such as personal care, cooking, and so on. Approximately 90% of the [[population]] is right-handed, while most of the remaining are [[left-handed]]. A very small percentage of the population can use both hands equally well; a person with this ability is deemed to be [[ambidextrous]].

Throughout history being right-handed was considered normal (the [[Latin]] word ''dexter'' meant "right" and is associated with skill, while the Latin word ''sinister'' meant "left" and is associated with wickedness). Hence the many prejudicial connotations became associated with right handedness: skilful, diligent, dextrous, deft. The associated left brain hemisphere that is said to be more active in right-handed people, has been found to be correlated with linguistic and logical skill.

In the past, many schools around the world forced left handed children to write right-handed. A good number of technological devices are made primarily for right-handers, including scissors and guitars. Examples of everyday objects primarily designed for right-handers include refrigerators and padded kitchen mittens (padded on one side only). Military rifles designed to be shot from the right shoulder only have resulted in injuries from spent cartridge casings hitting [[left-handed|left-handers]] in the eye and head.

A person may also describe somebody as his [[right hand man]], which means that he relies heavily on this person, deriving from the importance and superiority place on the right over the left by many civilizations.

Being right-handed does not always mean that the favored foot is also on the right side. When playing soccer for instance, many people prefer using their left foot rather than the right, despite being right-handed.

Some doctors say it starts in the pregnancy stage when the baby sucks either its left or right thumb at its 24th day

[[Category:Motor skills]]

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Birth (disambiguation)

2006-05-19T12:57:43Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

{{Wiktionarypar|birth}}
'''[[Birth]]''' is the process in animals by which an offspring is expelled from the body of its mother.

'''Birth''' may also refer to:
You may want to refer: * [[Human Birth Time]]

* [[The Birth of a Nation]], a controversial silent film directed by D.W. Griffith and released in 1915
* [[Birth (film)]], a 2004 film starring Nicole Kidman
* [[The Birth of Venus (Botticelli)]], a famous painting by Sandro Botticelli

{{disambig}}

Birth (disambiguation)

2006-05-19T12:56:53Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

{{Wiktionarypar|birth}}
'''[[Birth]]''' is the process in animals by which an offspring is expelled from the body of its mother.

'''Birth''' may also refer to:
You may want to refer: * [[Birth Time]]

* [[The Birth of a Nation]], a controversial silent film directed by D.W. Griffith and released in 1915
* [[Birth (film)]], a 2004 film starring Nicole Kidman
* [[The Birth of Venus (Botticelli)]], a famous painting by Sandro Botticelli

{{disambig}}

Anna University

2006-05-19T12:51:09Z

Sathyan Bhrama: /* Controversy over Dress Code and Mobile Phones */

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'''Anna University''' is one of [[India]]'s premier universities. Established in 1978, it offers higher education in [[Engineering]], [[Technology]] and Allied [[Science]]s.

== History ==
Anna University was formed on 4th September 1978 as a unitary type of university. It integrated several well-known technical institutions in the city of [[Chennai]] (previousy known as [[Madras]]), the oldest of which was the [[College of Engineering, Guindy]], started in [[1794]]. Since December 2001, it has become a large [[affiliating university]], with almost all engineering colleges in the state of [[Tamil Nadu]] under its fold.

== Campus ==
The University's main campus is situated in the southern part of [[Chennai]] and extends over 100 acres (400,000 m²) adjoining the [[Adyar River]] and the [[Raj Bhavan]]. It contains the [[College of Engineering, Guindy]], the [[Alagappa College of Technology]], and the [[School of Architecture and Planning]]. The campus also houses three technological departments of the [[University of Madras]]. The [[Madras Institute Of Technology]] at Chrompet constitutes the second campus and extends over 200,000 m². The third campus of the University is located at Taramani near the Instronic campus, [[Adyar]].

== Constituent Colleges ==
[[Image:Anna-university.jpg|356px|thumb|Anna University Campus]]

* [[College of Engineering, Guindy]]
* [[Alagappa College of Technology]]
* [[Madras Institute of Technology]]
* [[School of Architecture and Planning]]

== Aided and Affiliated Colleges ==

The Anna University Amendment Act of 2001 brought almost all Engineering colleges in [[Tamil Nadu]] under the University. This includes 6 Government Engineering colleges, 3 government-aided private institutions, and 225 Self-Financing Colleges.

[http://collinfo.annauniv.edu:6060/annauniv/collegeall/collcat.asp?collcat=all List of Colleges under Anna University]

== Notable Academics associated with Anna University ==
* [[Abdul Kalam|Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam]], President of India
* [[Raj Reddy|Prof. Raj Reddy]], 1994 [[Turing Award]] winner, former Dean of the School of Computer Science, [[Carnegie Mellon University]]

== Miscellaneous ==
* Perarignar Anna University of Technology (PAUT) was the name used from 1978 through 1982. In 1982 the current name of Anna University was coined primarily removing the prefix "Perarignar".
* Recently, Anna University has been granted 5 STAR status by the National Accreditation Committee.

== Recent Events ==
==== Cancellation of Entrance Exams ====
In June 2005, the Government of Tamil Nadu decided to discontinue the [[TNPCEE]], an entrance examination for professional courses in all Engineering and Medical colleges in Tamil Nadu, that is held annually by Anna University, and base admissions into professional courses solely based on the Higher Secondary school examinations. This order has been challenged in court. It is unclear whether the TNPCEE will be held in 2006, and which colleges it will be applicable to.

==== Controversy over Dress Code and Mobile Phones ====
In September 2005, the Vice-Chancellor of Anna University, Dr. [[D. Viswanathan]], issued an edict prescribing a dress code for the students of Anna Univerisity and its affiliated colleges, a move that has invited widespread condemnation and ridicule from student bodies, social activists and writers. The dress code has been accused of being sexist, as it forbids female students from wearing certain types of clothes, including jeans, T-shirts, skirts and sleeveless or tight-fitting dresses.

In a logic defying step by the university authorities, students have also been disallowed from possessing mobile phones on campus.

The backlash seems to have taken the university administration unawares, and it has since toned down its approach. The Vice-Chancellor has clarified that there will be no "military-like" strictness in enforcing the code, and that the dress code is not limited to girls: the rule forbidding jeans and T-shirts also extends to the men students at the university.

*[http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/09/18/stories/2005091800150200.htm News article on dissent over dress code]

== External links ==
*[http://www.annauniv.edu Anna University]
*[http://www.annauniv.edu/ceg College of Engineering, Guindy]
*[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queer_anna/ Online support group and forum for Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender students/faculty/alumni, Anna University]
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P. T. R. Palanivel Rajan

2006-05-19T12:44:41Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Please refer [[P. T. Rajan]]

P. T. R. Palanivel Rajan

2006-05-19T12:44:10Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Please refer [[P.T. Rajan]]

P. T. R. Palanivel Rajan

2006-05-19T12:43:58Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Please refer [[P.T.Rajan]]

P. T. R. Palanivel Rajan

2006-05-19T12:43:48Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Please refer [[P.T.Rajan
]]

P. T. R. Palanivel Rajan

2006-05-19T12:43:37Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

Please refer P.T.Rajan

User talk:YellowMonkey

2006-05-18T05:12:23Z

Sathyan Bhrama: Signature

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[[Swimming World Swimmers of the Year]] - now a featured list : [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Swimming World Swimmers of the Year|nomination here]] 
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'''Archives'''
*[[/Archive1]]: [[October]] [[2005]] - [[March 2]] [[2006]] (44kb)
*[[/Archive2]]: [[March 3]] [[2006]] - [[March 23]] [[2006]] (40kb)
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*[[/Archive4]]: [[April 7]] [[2006]] - [[April 27]] [[2006]]
** Some comments of possibly ongoing interest are still on the active talk page, as well as the archive.

== Admin nomination ==

Hi Blnguyen, I want to nominate you for admiship. I feel you are ready to get the addtional responsibilities & tools. I just wanted to ask you if you are interested before nominating you. Please reply ASAP so I can start the nomination procedures.

Thanks

[[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 06:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

: Awww, too bad, I had written a nomination statement & everything! Anyway I'll try after a month if you think you'll be ready by then. [[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 08:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

For one of my favourite people on Wikipedia
{{award2|image=raok barnstar.png|size=100px|topic=The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar|text=For being the most prolific member of the Barnstar Brigade & making sure no valuable contributions go unseen, I hereby award this Barnstar. [[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 03:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC) }}

(P.S Please consider archiving your page, it currently takes nearly a minute to load on my slow dial-up ;) )
*I'll second that archive request! It's huuuge. [[User:beneaththelandslide|michael]] [[User_talk:beneaththelandslide|talk]] 06:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes it's under 32kb again. Thankyou very much for this barnstar. It is a very special variety.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== Please be careful when you revert ==
You reverted the Ashfield article to reinstate some notable citizens (I agree with you). However in doing so, you overwrote some changes I'd made more recently to other sections of the article.
I don't know what the Wiki-ettiquette is for this, but I personally think you should be more careful, and reinstate anything that you write over.
I will put these particular changes back in.
Thanks [[User:99of9|99of9]] 06:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
: Ok sorry, I should have looked more carefully. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 06:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

I just wanted to say thanks for the barnstar. I appreciate it. --[[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 09:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for over in this direction as well ==

Wow! After a really tough day during finals week, the barnstar really made it all feel worthwhile. (I've still got a ton of articles to write, though!!!) Thanks, and cheers! -- [[User:Miwasatoshi|Miwa]] | [[User talk:Miwasatoshi|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Miwasatoshi|Contribs]] 22:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Werribee ==

Blnguyen,
As a lifelong resident of Werribee, Victoria I feel more qualified than one of Adelaide, to comment on Werribee and Westbournes place within it. Thankyou for your input. --[[User:Melbuniartsstudent|Melbuniartsstudent]] 12:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:Well, I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but classifying the establishment of a school and its progress without hard statistics as a large step forward is against the [[WP:NPOV]] policy. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Category: Australian drinking establishments ==

Hi, I am looking to do some cleanup on the articles in the above but I'm stuck with what the naming convention should be. Most of them are just called: Pub name or Pub Name, Suburb. I took a look around and read some of the naming convention articles and see three options: Pub name, Suburb OR Pub name, Suburb, State OR Pub name, Suburb, Australia. The o/seas pubs aren't much help either. Can I get your thoughts on this? [[User:Amitch|amitch]] 13:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:Hello Amitch. I will post it to [[WP:AWNB]], where the Australian Wikipedians hang around. They will probably have come across this before. You should keep an eye on this as there are a lot of pertinent issues there for Australian Wikipedians. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Norman Yao ==

''Greetings Deville. For your information, I have given evidence that I think that this is a pure hoax. If it were true though, I would have been vociferously campaigning for its retention. By the way, Norman Yao has been deleted, what was its content?? Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 08:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC).''
:Hi, I suspected as much when nothing came up under Olympiad, but I think you've nailed it. Actually, the page on Norman Yao went more easily; It was very much in the same vein, a bio of a NJ student who would have been quite remarkable had he accomplished everything the article claimed (I don't remember exactly what the claims were now, but they were immense), but nothing could be verified by a Google search....other than such a student existed. I put it up for AfD and it went quick. --[[User:Deville|Deville]] ([[User talk:Deville|Talk]]) 14:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Desert Kickoff Classic ==

Please do not delete this page. This rivalry was very real, and played for quite a few years. I understand that you can't find it on google, however, I think it would be hard to find most in-state high school football rivalries of the past. This game was a source of pride for may players, students, coaches, and fans. Please do not delete it. Thank you.{{unsigned|Cfconroy}}
: OK, it may be real, I am not questionaing your honesty, but it does not appear to meet the notability guidelines.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== rfa support ==

Thanks for the support on my RFA Blnguyen. It didn't acheive consensus, but hopefully in a few months things will turn out better. Keep on keepin on. [[User:Swatjester|⇒]] [[User_talk:Swatjester|SWATJester]] [[Special:Contributions/Swatjester|Ready]] [[RSTA|Aim]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States_Armed_Forces|Fire!]] 01:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

== Re the whole de-bureaucrating thing ==

Hi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. -- [[User:Francs2000|Fr]][[User:Francs2000/Esperanza|a]][[User talk:Francs2000|ncs2000]] [[Image:Gay flag.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 09:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
: Well, I respect your decision, despite that it being unfortunate. All the best.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hi==

I saw you on the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/FloNight |RfA]] page of [[User:FloNight|FloNight]] and felt like saying you a big and nice hello. Let us continue to build the [[Wikipedia:Better than the Best|Better than the Best]] global encyclopedia. Thank you and regards. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 16:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

==Esperanza Elections Staff==

Hi Blnguyen! I saw that you were signed up for the elections staff for the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006|Esperanza elections]]. If you have time, please help us out by comparing the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006/vote|votes]] to the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members/Election|members list]]. If you get around to do this, please leave notice that you have done so at [[Wikipedia_talk:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006/Tally]]. Thanks for your time! [[User:EWS23/Esperanza|'''E''']][[User:EWS23|WS23]] | [[User talk:EWS23|(Leave me a message!)]] 17:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ashley Callus ==

The Ashley Callus error was user error not AWB error. Thanks for catching it. [[User:Sreed1234|Sue Anne]] 01:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Tri-Wog ==

An AfD runs for five days, ''or'' until an administrator decides that a consensus has been reached. There was pretty clearly a consensus. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] 02:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

==Electoral districts==

I only made it small because there were so many of them that it was taking up a fair bit of space; feel free to revert if you preferred the larger version. My unalphabetisation was a mistake - there were a couple of formatting errors in there before, and in trying to fix them, I completely messed it up. Eep. Finally, as for the members of electorates, your best bet is probably to get your hands on a copy of the parliamentary record. These are published at the end of each term, and are only published in hardcopy. Among other things, they've got profiles and complete member lists for every division in Qld history. I've been working off these for my [[members of the Queensland Legislative Assembly]] series - they're really useful if you can get your hands on one. I have access to them through the National Library, but your state library could be of use, or if you're in Queensland, maybe a local library. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 04:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RfA ==

FYI, I answered your question on my RfA. If you have any other concerns or questions please don't hesitate to voice them. Thanks. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 05:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was wondering when you we're going to make a decision about that. Just in time too. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 03:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

==Template Barnstar==

{{award2|image=Blueprint Barnstar 2.PNG|size=100px|topic=The Template Barnstar|text=I, Attilio Funel, give [[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]] this deserved barnstar for the adding and creations of hundreds of templates and infoboxes in the sectors of sports and other matters.[[User:Attilios|Attilios]] 11:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC) }}

: Thankyou Attilios. This is a great honour.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 03:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

I'll try but am very busy with real world stuff at the mo'. Give me a day or so. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 08:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Cheers! ==

Thanks for the birthday message...no matter about lateness, thought that counts...great work on Eurovision! Fantastic![[User:Ciriii|Ciriii]] 15:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Directed Studies ==

Link fixed. [[User:Monicasdude|Monicasdude]] 00:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==[[Frank Beaurepaire]]==

Very nice article. Well done -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 05:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
: thankyou :) .[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 01:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the star! ==

More articles about German towns, and possibly other German things, are coming. [[User:Kelisi|Kelisi]] 17:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==A landslide victory for [[User:The_JPS|The JPS]] (aka RFA thanks)==

{| style="border:7px purple solid;padding:10px"
|Hey, {{PAGENAME}}, thank you so much for your vote and comments in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The_JPS|my RfA]], which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight. If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my [[User talk:The JPS|talk page]], and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever... Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me... 
[[User:The JPS|'''The JPS''']] [[User talk:The JPS|'''talk to me''']] 22:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
|[[Image:Red Wine Glas.jpg|100px]]
|}

==Boy Charlton==
Are you planning on doing this one soon? An interesting life. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 23:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
: Yes, I will be. I also saw my library has a newly arrived biography on him.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 01:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Excellent! I've sent you a couple of emails. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 01:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Much thanks for the barnstar! I am enjoying the process of incorporating an entire reference work into this project of ours...your recognition is what keeps people like me going. [[User:PaulHanson|Paul]] 02:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wow :) ==

Why thank you for my barnstar :) I am feeling particularly chuffed - this is my first :D My I put it on my user page? (Lol all I was doing before was on a clunky dial-up connection, I got broadband today and now am invincible :P). Nice to see my work is appreciated, and I will certainly remember to call on you should the deletionists start an attack! [[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]] 02:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::And can I just say I loved your response to the [[Candace Michelle Brown]] deletion discussion! Clever - would never have thought of that :) [[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]] 04:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Comments On George Giffen Article==

As you can see I am relitivly new so if I am posting this in the wrong spot let me know.
I have edited a bit that may be considerd that was not written to a NPOV but still if it comes across that way can you let me know what it is, most of the stuff in the Giffen article was just an attempt to clean it up to make it look better and not my work, I can see how it apperas to be written by a descendant, I will give it another go, please feel free to offer your thoughts [[User:Christopherandrewstevens|Christopherandrewstevens]] 04:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC).

==DYK medal==
Thankyou very much. Out of interest, how did you know though? Did you find my subpage, or is there a log file I'm unaware of? -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 05:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Your [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]] entry for April 28 ==

Which is the new article? I left a note to that effect next to the entry. :-) [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 11:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Oule, Ave, and Hello. I am here only to thank you for voting to keep the [[Aleksandra Wasowicz]] article. I appreciate what you have done. Again, thank you. Over and out. - Deucalionite May 3, 2006 12:03 P.M.

== May the Force be with you.==
[[Image:Nuvola apps kopete.png|thumb|left]]
'''Dear {{PAGENAME}}''',
:'''Thanks''' for voting on [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Master of Puppets|my RFA]]! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. <tt>:)</tt> I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, [[User:Master of Puppets|_-'''M''']] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|'''''o''''']] [[User:Master of Puppets/EA|'''P'''-_]] 21:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the quick revert on my userpage... It looks like the [[User:Captain_Kevles]] is one of many socks:
*[[User:Commodore Kevles|Commodore Kevles]] ([[User talk:Commodore Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Commodore Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Commodore Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Commodore Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Commodore Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:Admiral Kevles|Admiral Kevles]] ([[User talk:Admiral Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Admiral Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Admiral Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Admiral Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Admiral Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:Warlord Kevles|Warlord Kevles]] ([[User talk:Warlord Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Warlord Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Warlord Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Warlord Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Warlord Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:T3h p3n0r|T3h p3n0r]] ([[User talk:T3h p3n0r|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/T3h p3n0r|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|T3h p3n0r}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/T3h p3n0r|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|T3h p3n0r}}}}} block log])
based on edits. So even after blocking, he may come back... It looks like a gruge against [[User:Mikhajist]], who is on the same IP (?). --[[User:TeaDrinker|TeaDrinker]] 03:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thank you for clearing up my question about NN Companies/Advertisement. I'm doing my damndest to become a solid and positive contributor to Wikipedia, but navigating the rules and regulations for the first time is a bit daunting. [[User:Consequentially|Consequentially]] 04:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

what nonesens were you referring to, friend?

== [[Ajith]] ==

Hi,
I don't know much about the guy, but I do know enough to tell what is valid info & what is POV crap. Have added the article to my watchlist & will keep an eye on it. I'll try & copyedit whatever POV stuff is in there soon.

Thanks

[[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 09:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Re : George Bush impeachment ==

Thanks for the heads up. There's two ways to go from here - a [[WP:RCU|checkuser]], or/and a [[WP:RFC|RFC]] (if RCU turns out negative). The IP seems to be used by a number of formerly/currently banned users, which means it is possible that we are re-opening a can of worms. Let me know of your opinon on the options. - ''Best regards'', [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 09:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

* I've run the IP through [[WP:RCU|checkuser]], hopefully it'll be able to produce some results on the case and stop this whole madness. - [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 10:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Harbar]] ==
No, it's O.K. Always feel free to ask me, mate. Yeah, usually, but as it's my first admin action I felt lax. I went through it on IRC with Essjay and figured that he might reform after a 24h block, and that I'd keep an eye on him and indef block him if he didn't. Anyway, it doesn't matter since another admin decided to indef block him anyways. [[User:Snoutwood|Snoutwood]] [[User talk:Snoutwood|(talk)]] 04:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Swimming Clubs in Kent==

You are probably right. I have left a message with the user concerned and on the Swimming Clubs in Kent page. I have suggested a redirect to the Swimming Clubs in Kent article as a possible alternative. Nevertheless, we shall leave the [[Black Lion SC]] prod in place for now and see what happens. Given your knowledge, I place great credence in your views on this matter. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 06:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Australian culture==
If you really cared, you'd be trying to give soccer a better rap then what it's getting on that page, like what I'm doing with football.{{unsigned|Sliat 1981}}
: My sporting preference is not the relevant issue; the issue is the content you inserted into the [[Australia]] article. WP is an encyclopedia, it is not for me, you or anybody else to glorify their preferences for whatever they may be. Especially as Australia is an FA, we cannot just accept any old edit.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 06:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you speak english? I have no idea what you're talking about.{{unsigned|Sliat 1981}}
:Personal attack noted with amusement. You cannot make more than three reversions to the same article in 24 hours, otherwise a 24 block will result. You have done so. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 07:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

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| style="background-color: #FF9966; padding: 0em; border:1px green;"| Hello {{PAGENAME}}, and thanks for supporting me on my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/AndyZ|request for adminship]]! It has succeeded with an unanimous support of 67 votes, so that I am now an [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrator]]. Please feel free to leave a note on my [[User talk:AndyZ|talk page]] should you wish to leave any comments or ask for any help. Again, thanks a lot, ''[[User:AndyZ|AndyZ]]'' [[User talk:AndyZ|t]] 21:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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==Ajith==
I have reverted sections of the article to the Zora version. I will keep a watch on what is added. - [[User:Ganeshk|Ganeshk]] ([[User talk:Ganeshk|talk]]) 23:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3 ==

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|style="color:#000"|The '''Administrator Coaching''' program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
: ''This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.''
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| style="color:#000"|As always, [[User:MiszaBot|MiszaBot]] handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to [[User:Pschemp|Pschemp]], [[User:Titoxd|Titoxd]] and [[User:Freakofnurture|Freakofnurture]] for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
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# Posting logs of [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-esperanza the Esperanza IRC channel] are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
# A disclaimer is going to be added to the [[WP:ESP|Esperanza main page]]. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
# Various revisions have been made to the [[WP:ESP/CC|Code of Conduct]]. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
# Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
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==Re: Portal:South Australia==
At this stage, I'm personally not enthusiastic about such a portal - but not necessarily opposed. There are number of portals for subnational entities (aside cities), of which [[Portal:Kerala]] is probably the best maintained. I do think there is a fair amount of quality South Australian content, but not enough of it to avoid repeats. My biggest concern would be maintenance; if [[Portal:Australia]] essentially has only me to maintain it (aside [[P:AU/N]], which has gained patronage since I transcluded it [[WP:AWNB]]), how will portals for the states and territories manage? And although you only propose [[Portal:South Australia]] (which would have at least you and myself), it would be precedent to the others. I think if such portals were created the best option would be to make them navigation-oriented, like [[Portal:Europe]]. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 05:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that you've made me think about it, I'm warming to the idea.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 05:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::Okay, I'm officially warmed. I've been testing around to see what it might look like, and I like it. I'll make the suggestion at [[WP:P/P]] to make sure its not just parochialism ;-)--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 06:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I've started a draft at [[User:Cyberjunkie/Lab]] to just test some things to see if its viable. Please feel free to contribute to it, or to create your own. I'm using the same CSS as I did on [[Portal:Australia]] for consistency.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 07:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Camberwell High Liberal Club ==

Sorry about reverting your AfD, you must have added it seconds before i reverted the previous editors tag deletion. Apologies again! [[User:Rockpocket|Rockpocket]] [[User_talk:Rockpocket|(talk)]] 06:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
: No worries, it's all fine.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

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|'''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' has been updated. A fact from the article '''[[Clare Dennis]]''', which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the [[Main Page]]. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on [[:Template talk:Did you know|the "Did you know?" talk page]].
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== New Template:Austsuburb ==

Thought it may be worthwhile creating a new template which allows you to detail some general information about a suburb. Its only a start, could probably do with adding categories at the bottom. Have a look at [[Northgate, South Australia]] and tell me what you think. [[User:Enigmatical|Enigmatical]] 04:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thans for the barnstar ==

Please forgive my rudeness in being so slow to reply and thank you for giving me my first-ever barnstar! It's great to know that my work is appreciated.

I have now nominated myself for adminship, and if you would like to cast a vote you can do so at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/BrownHairedGirl]]. I'd welcome your vote, whether it's to support or to oppose.

Thanks! --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] 11:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Oh dear, it was rude of me again not to notice that you had already voted — but thanks, belatedly, for your support. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] 01:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[Bernard Tomic]] ==
I can't believe they are all voting to keep this article. I'm with you [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernard Tomic|'''here''']] buddy. [[User:OSU80|OSU80]] 22:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Comments about page length on TT:DYK ==

Please don't make comments on the length of the pages in [[Template talk:Did you know]]. It is subject to font size and monitor resolution. The only firm rules are that the page be more than 1000 chars in size (Lupin's popups will display this statistic) and not a stub. If you wish to propose page size as another criteria for DYK entries, by all means do so at [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know]], but the Template talk page wouldn't be a good place to introduce a new (unwritten) rule. Thanks! [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 02:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== 3RR ==

Thanks for the notice. But this is ridiculous! Anyhow, I guess I have nothing to worry about. All I did was remove the commercial links. Thanks again! -- [[User:Deepujoseph| thunderboltz]]a.k.a.D[[User:Deepujoseph/Esperanza|e]]epu_Joseph |[[user_talk:Deepujoseph|TALK]] 05:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for voting in my RfA! ==

Thanks for the vote in my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Amgine|RfA]]! Appreciate the comment. The RfA did not gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted the nom! - [[User:Amgine|Amgine]] 17:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

==Lansing Cricket- A confused pedant writes..==
I guess you meant to say that most cricket pitches ''in the US'' are concrete, not that cricket pitches generally are made of concrete? [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 00:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:Ah, OK. I'm beginning to have an inkling why Australia are prone to handing out cricketing whuppin's- I don't think I've never seen a concrete cricket pitch in the UK in my life, although I must admit it's not something I ever really look out for...The only pitches I've ever seen are grass (max. 1 oe 2 public or club strips per town) or pseudo-astroturf plastic (1 or 2, in secondary (state) schools). Thanks for the response, [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 00:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Yes, I messed up ==

I was trying to delete the personal life section, which consisted of a bunch of sleazy rumors (with no references) and then a denial. But I messed up bigtime, I guess. I grovel in repentance. [[User:Zora|Zora]] 07:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dear Blnguyen ==

Dear Blnguyen, I've taken the time to browse your contributions extensively and was thinking about adding a personal review to the page that you've wisely created in order to get feedback on yourself. However, I believe that in your case, the time for words is over, and it's the right moment to act instead. Therefore, I'd like to suggest you to apply for adminship without delay, and it would be both a pleasure and a privilege if you allow me to nominate you. I very seldom offer myself to nominate someone I've never directly interacted with before, but in your case I can clearly see that you're an asset to our community and a very nice person; to sum it up, exactly the kind of admins that we desperately need. We all believe you're ready. Please, if you wish to accept my proposition, just let me know; I'll be happy to proceed. Cheers, [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] ♥ '''[[User talk:Phaedriel|tell me]]''' - 17:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'll co-nominate based on your helpful presence at [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]]. Please accept this opportunity. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 17:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
::Seems like Blnguyen's got a lot of support votes even before his RFA has begun! Anyway myself, [[User:I@n]] & [[User:Snottygobble]] too have been considering nominating him for some time now & have been corresponding through email. When I first [[User_talk:Blnguyen#Admin_nomination|considered]] nominating him on 25th April he told me he would like to wait for a month before accepting. So Blnguyen do you think you are ready now? [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 18:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree. If [[User:Anwar saadat]] turns up & attcks your RFA (which I have no doubt he would), it will turn into a battle ground for the article [[Ajith]] rather than an RFA. Can you give me your email address (preferably gmail) so we can continue this correspondence there. [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 01:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I respect your decision to defer any nomination for later, but I must comment on your main reason for doing so. If [[User:Anwar saadat]] attacks you during the RfA, other voters have the perogative to dismiss his comments and concentrate on evaluting your contributions instead. Don't let him deter you from an RfA nom - let your contribs and your prior responses to him influence other, non-biased editors. I'm sure the RfA community will be excellent in weeding out any invalid opposes or attacks. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 02:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Do you want to update your remark [[Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts#7,500+ edits|here]]? :-) [[User:NoSeptember|'''NoSeptember''']] [[User talk:NoSeptember|''talk'']] 14:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== ADMIN HELP - I have been autoblocked ==

I have been taken out by collateral damage from [[User:Naconkantari]].

:You were blocked by Naconkantari for the following reason (see our blocking policy):
"Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Test123456789". The reason given for Test123456789's block is: "please contact an administrator for verification, as described on this page"."

Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>{{unblock| Some collateral damage, see above}}</nowiki>[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:Done. [[User talk:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] 04:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::Thankyou very much Snottygobble.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:::You're welcome. [[User talk:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] 04:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

==Vandalism Question==

I see that right now you are stopping someone from switching the incorrect pictures on a page and he continues to do it. How do you block him from continuing to do it? Is this an administrator's power or can anyone block a vandal? Just wanted to know, since I have experienced this before. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] 06:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I guess the policy makes sense. I will stop by and review you later when I take a look at your contributions. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] 06:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Anwar saadat]] ==

On the [[WP:AN/I]], you meant that Prin had the socks, not Anwar right?[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 07:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'll clarify that. --[[User:Rory096|Rory096]] 07:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== Archive ==

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==DYK==

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And another one!

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Way to go! Please keep it up, you rock! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 00:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

[[Image:Tournesol.png|left|40px]]Hi {{PAGENAME}},

Thank you for strongly supporting my RFA! Even though it did not succeed I want to heartily thank you for your faith in me & my abilities. If it weren't for you guys I probably would have never been confident enough to consider myself for the position. I will look to keep your confidence in me intact for a long time to come.

Cheers

[[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 00:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Clarification ==

From [[User talk:Srikeit]]: ''as Nichalp did when he tried to gatecrash the Aucaman arbitration and decided to try and get Zora banned'' -- err... from this statement it appears that I was trying to get Zora banned, which I was not. Regards, [[user:Nichalp|=Nichalp]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|«Talk»=]] 11:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

: I didn't word it very well. I meant "he" in the sense of Anwar, and was referring to you rebutting Anwar's claims against Zora. Sorry.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 00:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==Request for Editor / User Page Review==
Hey Blnguyen –

You opposed [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Joturner|my last RfA in March]] on rationale I believe may have been related to [[User:Joturner|my user page]]. In the time since then, I have changed my page to be more [[universalism|universalist]] (which still conforms with my personal beliefs) and removed the majority of information regarding my conversion to Islam in favor of a section on my philosophy (as well as [[User:Joturner/Suggest an Axiom|yours if you desire]]). Now, I'm looking for your feedback on what you think of the redesign of the page and whether it is sufficient in quelling the March controversy over the page as well as solving the issue about possible inability to maintain a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], especially in religion-related articles. For what it's worth, the reason I kept a condensed version of the timeline was because there were, and still are, many people who find it interesting instead of a form of proselytization. Many people have also given me positive feedback on [[User talk:Joturner|my talk page]] regarding the look of the page. I personally believe that it is okay to insert individuality onto user pages, especially if it still promotes a sense of community. That is what I was going for with this current version of my user page.

Please make comments regarding the user page on [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Joturner|my editor review page]]. Thanks in advance. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|e]][[User:Joturner|r]] 15:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Gmail ==

I see you are online right now. Why don't you log in gmail & we can chat with google chat? [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 00:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:I just sent you a mail. [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 08:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Just to point out ==

I noted that you've said Nichalp didn't get the DYK medal. Actually I wanted to point out that he has already been awarded that if you can see in his userpage, not that i'm against you awarding it again. Just wanted to let you know though cuz I tried to award him a new barnstar and found he has really almost all barnstars in his barn so the best for him was the barnstar of barnstars. Thanx. --[[User:Idleguy|Idleguy]] 05:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sathyan Bhrama ==

Hey okay...Blnguyen. A doubt ok, how do I earn a barnstar? {{unsigned|Sathyan Bhrama}}

:Well, see [[Wikipedia:Barnstars]] for a comprehensive guide on the official barnstars. Generally, there is no strict criteria, people give it to fellow wikipedians if they feel that the recipient deserves recognition for their contributions. Although some people have self-awarded barnstars. Out of the Indian contributors, [[User:Nichalp]] and [[User:Bhadani]] are probably the heaviest contributors, and have the most barnstars, displayed on their userpage. Regards,[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

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== [[John Davies (swimmer)]] and [[John Davies (judge)]] ==

Hey there Thebainer. I created the article about the swimmer and noticed that you had put a redlink at [[John Davies]] to an Australian judge. Could you be referring to the same person? ... [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's a different person, I added that link when creating [[List of Judges of the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital Territory]] and disambiguating the names in that. This Davies was a Federal Court judge from 1978 to 1998. Interesting article on the swimmer though! --[[User:Thebainer|bainer]] ([[User_talk:Thebainer|talk]]) 09:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Deprod ==

I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from [[Killing the Buddha]], which you proposed for deletion, because I feel that the deletion of this article may be controversial. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to the article, as [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] is only for non-controversial deletions. Instead, feel free to list it at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks! [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|'''juice''']][[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]] 21:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==Rani's page==
Please stay out of Rani Mukerji's page. I am already having issues and problems. Don't create new ones. Thanks! You can work on something else. We have plumcouch, zora and pa7 on the page to name a few. [[User:shez_15|shez]] 21:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== RfA timing ==

Most new questions added on to RfAs happen within the first three days, and any commentary that needs to be responded to will most likely happen in that window as well. It'd be best if you could be around for the duration of the RfA, but if you must miss some days it's better to have those towards the end of the seven days rather than the beginning. So, I'd recommend in your case that you begin the RfA on a Monday or Tuesday, and at the latest a Wednesday. Hope that helps, --[[User:Durin|Durin]] 12:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== DYK!!! ==

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I have no idea what this article was trying to tell me but I picked it anyway.. hehe. '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 13:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks!! ==

Hi Blnguyen! Thanks for the DYK medal. :) Until you mentioned it, I did not know that I had produced so many DYK! I also believe that there could be one more regarding the [[Pushkar]] fair being the largest cattle fair in the world. It would probably be in the long archives. A technical prob is preventing me from adding the barnstar to the list, I'll try again later. [[user:Nichalp|=Nichalp]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|«Talk»=]] 17:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dear B ==

Dear B, I completely respect your decision to postpone a little your nomination to RfA, and I believe you're acting correctly. Your patience should be praised, and I fully understand that other people have already expressed interest to nominate you. So please, do proceed as you have planned; I'm sure it'll be for the better. Rest assured that, when the time comes, you'll see my strong support sitting in your list! Should you ever need my help, please, don't hesitate to ask. Kisses, [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] ♥ '''[[User talk:Phaedriel|tell me]]''' - 21:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:you'll get my support too, to be sure! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK redux!!==

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Thanks for your MANY contributions! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

==Help in Mosman==
Could I get your advice on the Mosman, NSW article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosman%2C_New_South_Wales). There is a chunk of text continually being added from the local council website, and a user from purportedly from the Mosman Library stating that they are happy to have it added with appropriate attribution. I still think it's against policy, though, and the text is not exactly encyclopaedic? [[User:Slf67|Steve]] 01:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
: I am not an expert in these things, but a cut and paste from an external website can only be done when that party explicitly "gives permission" to do so. In this case, I have seen administrators (I am not an admin, not yet anyway) tell the person who is claiming to be the presumed copyright holder to use the "email this user" option in the toolbox to send mail to an administrator from an email address that is associated with the organization which owns copyright to confirm that they really are the owners of the copyright. So I think they should get an account, set the email to their Mosman council email, and then email and administrator to verify that you are the copyright owner and are happy for it to be put on the wikipedia. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 02:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Ein bißchen Frieden ==

Hi Blnguyen, I was already thinking about whether I like the page title (the article is nice, thanks for DYK-nomming it!). The correct German title has an ß (which you should not confuse with a β) and "bißchen" is lowercase. As it is "bisschen" now in reformed German orthography and the ß is not very popular on enwiki anyway (there is often debate on whether to use it), the ss is probably fine, just the capitalization is wrong: [[Ein bisschen Frieden]] would be better, I think. Unless you impose English capitalization rules for titles. So anyway, these are my thoughts on this issue. I don't know yet if I'll be here to check the DYK update (and don't edit much in that area), but I'll try to keep an eye on it if possible. Thank you, and happy editing, [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 02:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:I have moved to [[Ein bisschen Frieden]]. You could have moved it yourself - if the target is a redirect to the source without other page history, then any editor can move the page. It is not out-of-process at all (and deletions of move targets with trivial history for uncontroversial moves are specifically allowed by [[WP:CSD#G6]]). Happy editing, [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 16:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Editor review==
Yeah, you're right, argument is probably too strong or inappropriate a word to describe it. Don't take it out of context ;) Cheers, [[WP:AFL|R]][[Special:Contributions/Rogerthat|o]][[User:Rogerthat|gerthat]] ''[[User_talk:Rogerthat|Talk]]'' 06:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== from sathyan Bhrama ==

Hey how do i change my signature to something more colour full? {{unsigned|Sathyan Bhrama}}

:Replied on user page.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 08:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Current events ==

I have no time to scour the archives at the moment but I recollect that more than once nominations were ignored by the updating admins, because they covered ongoing events. I'm not sure whether we have any guideline on this, however. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] [[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]] 08:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== RFA success! ==

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==DYK==

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==RfA thanks==

<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 2px darkgreen; background-color: lightgreen;">[[Image:Andantescan.jpg|60px|left|Thanks]]<center> {{PAGENAME}}, '''thank you''' you so much for [[Andante ticket|validating]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dustimagic|my RfA]]! I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken both the positive and constructive on board. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please let me know, ditto if you see me stumble! Thanks again for your much appreciated support.

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== Template recommendation ==

Thank you for guiding me with the template for swimming. -- [[User:Ryanjo|Ryanjo]] 02:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Thanks for the tip ..now how is my sign better? --[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 05:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:JLaTondre/Archive 2

2006-05-18T05:10:39Z

Sathyan Bhrama: Sathy

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I believe in keeping discussions intact to improve readability. If I initiate a conversation on your talk page, I will watch it (for a limited period of time) for responses. You can respond on your talk page and I will read it and follow-up there as needed. If you initiate a conversation here, I will respond here unless you specifically request otherwise. If you do, I will more than likely copy what you posted as well so that the conversation stays coherent.

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'''Archives:'''
*[[User talk:JLaTondre/Archive1|Archive 1]]

== Blanking ==
Hey, from your message, it shounds like your accusing me of being a vandal, thats not the case. The Uruguay rugby team, was already blank, someone created it and set up a redirect to the Uruguay union, which is a different thing.

So, true, I should have added a stub notice, but they way it was, was wrong. They are different subjects entirely, so removing the redirect was a good move, in my opinion. [[User:Cvene64|Cvene64]] 06:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:I did not accuse you of being a vandal. There is actually a vandal template for blanking which I specifically did not use. Removing the redirect was not a good move as the link I provided in my note to you indicated. There are ways of resolving issues like this that does not leave someone at a blank page. Listing an incorrect redirect for deletion is easy. See the other link I gave you. If you need help listing it, let me know. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 15:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

::Okay. I do not have the time to list anything right now, alternatively, leave the redirect, I will write the page in a couple of days if I can. [[User:Cvene64|Cvene64]] 15:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I regret not having followed the protocol. But, [[Judicial Process]] as a redirect to [[Civil Procedure]] was highly unjustifiable. Legal process can be considered suitable for the moment. I will soon be writing an article on the concerned subject. --'''[[User:Anirudhsbh|Andy123]]'''[[User talk:Anirudhsbh|(talk)]] 06:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds good. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 15:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Page ==
sorry lol, i wanted to change the link to it so it would be Follow Your Heart (Nikki Webster album) but i had no idear how move article but i know now. :) —This [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Lillygirl|Lillygirl]] ([[User talk:Lillygirl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lillygirl|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
:Everyone here can always learn something new. Please sign your posts, though. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 15:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Page Blanking ==
On 14-Mar, you blanked [[Arizona and Eastern Railway]]. Blanking pages is generally considered a [[Wikipedia:No blank pages|bad idea]]. I've reverted it to the previous version. If this was the result of a broken edit, you may wish to make the correct edits. If you believe the page should be deleted, please follow the [[WP:DEL|deletion procedures]]. If you believe different content should go there, please create a [[Wikipedia:Stub|stub]]. If you have questions, please let me know. Thanks! -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 04:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
:If it was blanked, that was my mistake. It was supposed to redirect to [[Arizona Eastern Railway]]. The railroad does not exist with the "and" in its name. I will place the redirect back in. [[User:Rhallanger|Rhallanger]] 12:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
::We all make mistakes. Thanks for redirecting it to the right place. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 15:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Thanks for your notification.. I did indeed blank [[The Bishop´s Avenue]], a page that I had created. It was a duplicate and there were crosslinks. I´ve never deleted anything previously and I thought someone like you would find me out....et voilá [[User:IsarSteve|IsarSteve]] 08:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== What is wrong with every one ==

i am probably gonna get a lot of bitchin because of this but, why is it that everyone freaks out over some one screwing around? this is not a very acurate source either. i have found major errors and i know other people who have as well. WHy do you all take this so seroiusly? Is this your life? Is this like your favorite thing to do? What is wrong with all of you?[[User:Dogblue|Dogblue]] 22:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

== Re: Blanking Neighbours Briggs ==

Hello there,

OK, so I may not have done the right thing by blanking the page Neighbours Briggs. But Neighbours Briggs isn't a real TV show. This is why I blanked the page originally & why I have moved that that page be deleted.

[[User:Thewiikione|Thewiikione]] 05:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
:Blanking is not the same as deleting. Blanking leaves the article & it's history present. If it's a hoax, it should be deleted so that it's actually gone. Using prod was a better solution. However, when you marked it for deletion, you didn't provide a reason. Instead of <nowiki>{{prod}}</nowiki>, it's better to put <nowiki>{{prod|your reason}}</nowiki>. You did add <nowiki>{{hoax}}</nowiki> as well so that does help, but it's always good to make it clear why you think something should be deleted as some people put the burden of proof on the person doing the nomination and will vote keep if reasons are not provided. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 10:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Little Johnny Taylor ==

You recently left a note on my page castigating me for blanking the redirect from Little Johnny Taylor to Johnnie Taylor. I have followed your advice and listed the redirect on the RfD page, stating the reason for the redirection was that the two are different people. However, I need to ask why you didn't just list the redirect on RfD rather than reverting my blanking as all you did was readmit incorrect information into Wikipedia, which (I'm sure you would agree) can't be good for the project. --[[User:Roisterer|Roisterer]] 08:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
:Castigating? I'm sorry you felt that way. It was meant to be informative. As for why I didn't list it, I have no idea if they are the same person or not. The creator obviously thought they were. You disagree. That's the point of deletion review - to get community agreement on the right answer. Since you are the one who wants it deleted, it's up to you to make the case for deletion. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 11:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Re:RFD ==

Regarding "IIndiana University—Purdue University Indianapolis": Oops, my bad, I speedied it as an implausible typo (created by pagemove error) and forgot to say so. I got sidetracked trying to figure out why the hell the target article had an &emdash; instead of a hyphen. — Mar. 30, '06 <tt class=plainlinks>'''[12:39] <[{{fullurl:user:freakofnurture}} freakofnurxture][[special:contributions/freakofnurture||]][{{fullurl:user talk:freakofnurture|action=edit&section=new}} talk]>'''</tt>
:Eh... messed up again. That's what happens when I only drop in every couple weeks to fix the backlog. — Apr. 2, '06 <tt class=plainlinks>'''[16:29] <[{{fullurl:user:freakofnurture}} freakofnurxture][[special:contributions/freakofnurture||]][{{fullurl:user talk:freakofnurture|action=edit&section=new}} talk]>'''</tt>
:Actually in cases like that, I'd recommend <tt>{{[[template:db|db]]|tagged for 3 1/2 months and nobody's noticed, extremely unlikely to be useful!}}</tt>. — Apr. 2, '06 <tt class=plainlinks>'''[16:37] <[{{fullurl:user:freakofnurture}} freakofnurxture][[special:contributions/freakofnurture||]][{{fullurl:user talk:freakofnurture|action=edit&section=new}} talk]>'''</tt>

== [[Special:Shortpages]] ==
I know you've been working on them. So have I. Letting you know, I've gone though #50 and I am done` for the night. Would appreciate note on my talk page if/when you do another chunk. Pain in the neck that that page doesn't instantly update. Can we change that? Who designed that excellent process? Thanks. - [[User:Crzrussian|the.crazy.russian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|τ]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|ç]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|ë]] 05:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Responded as requested. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 17:03, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks. I do all of the same except leave messages on talk pages except in a few cases. Maybe I should starts. Thanks again. - [[User:Crzrussian|the.crazy.russian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|τ]]/[[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|ç]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|ë]] 17:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Computers in postmodernity ==

No worries, I figured out what you meant after a while. Question: do you think I could just nominate it to be speedied per [[WP:SNOW]] or should I really AFD it? [[User:Mikkerpikker|Mikker]] [[User talk:Mikkerpikker|(...)]] 03:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:Responded on [[User:Mikkerpikker|Mikkerpikker's]] talk page. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 03:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

==Button Mashing==
Sorry about that, I was trying to get Buttom mashing to replace the title Scrubs, which sounded very unencyclopedic, but I dont think I figured it out. How would you move the page if Button mashing already exists? Thanks much! Mike [[User:Judgesurreal777|Judgesurreal777]] 03:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:My appolgies. I somehow missed this comment. If you want to flip the article and redirect names, you can list it at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]] (follow the instructions on that page). If there is no disagreement, an administrator will take care of it. Let me know if you need help. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 13:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Page blanking ==
Hey dude, for the Hemingway article I just wanted to add a photo. I didn;t blank the page--[[User:Nick Dillinger|Nick Dillinger]] 06:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:This diff [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collected_Stories_%28Hemingway%29&diff=46721383&oldid=24380450] shows that it did get blanked by you. That can happen by accident which is why my note included the line 'If this was the result of a broken edit, you may wish to make the correct edits." Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 12:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

::Where are you up to with Shortpages, JL? - [[User:Crzrussian|the.crazy.russian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|τ]] [[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|ç]] [[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|ë]] 17:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::Real life is awesome. Well, I did about ten more and now I am wrapping up until Saturday night. See ya. - [[User:Crzrussian|the.crazy.russian]] [[User_talk:Crzrussian|τ]] [[Special:Contributions/Crzrussian|ç]] [[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|ë]] 19:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== Automated spelling fixes ==

Alright then, I stopped any and all upcoming processes intending to correct spelling, and my bot will shortly officially remove spelling correction from the list of his functions. —[[User:Messedrocker|'''M''''''ESSED''''''R''''''OCKER''']] ([[User talk:Messedrocker|talk]]) 21:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ok... ==
Well I did blank a false redirect after unsuccesfully trying to find the right page to redirect to. It was a accident and I do edit summaries when required and dont need tips. Thanks and Contact ME if you need anything ;) [[User:Michaelbeckham|Mike Beckham]] 04:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:The fact that you blanked it instead of sending it to RfD does show that you needed the tip about blanking. The fact that you called the editor who made the redirect an "idiot" in your summary shows that you needed the tip about [[WP:CIVIL]]. The fact that you have replaced my message on your talk page with "Read and removed due to it being a moronic message" shows that you still need the tip about [[WP:CIVIL]]. Mistakes happen - we all make them. Please learn from yours. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 12:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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== [[09 January]] ==

Done. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 12:01, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
==Re: RfD==
Thanks so much for your reminder. :-D — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 14:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== [[WP:NPOVUW]] ==

Thanks for doing all the dirty work! You missed one, but I caught it. *shrug* Again, thanks! [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 18:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

== Gambotto redirecdts ==
hi, These are valid redirects and, I suppose, don't cause any great harm but I feel they are unncessary. The Giancarlo_Gambotto → Gambotto → Antonella Gambotto-Burke seems particularly pointless. [[User:Dlyons493|Dlyons493]] [[User_talk:Dlyons493|Talk]] 19:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:The double redirect should be fixed if kept. I meant to make a note of that and forgot. I've added that, thanks. I'll agree that the redirects probably won't be used much, but in general, the votes on RfD error towards keeping redirects if there is a chance that someone might type it in while looking for a page. If you read over the RfD page, you'll see even more unlikely ones being kept. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 21:51, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

==AfD==
I saw you contributed to the [[Ohad Shem-Tov]] (talk) page, which I have proposed to be deleted, feel free to join in the debate [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ohad Shem-Tov|here]]! [[User:C mon|C mon]] 21:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks. I wasn't quite sure what to do about that page when I found it vandalized as I know little about Israeli politics. I was hoping the disputed tag might bring in some serious editors. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 21:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

==Abasin and Nuristan (Pakistan)==
Hi JLA..thanks for your comments..I was actually hoping to merge those two articles with the main one that is Pakhtunkhwa..essentially the other two (abasin and nuristan) are duplicates of Pakhtunkhwa thanks
--[[User:Zakksez|Zak]] 03:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:You don't need AfD to do a merge. You can edit the article to be kept to add any unique information and then redirect to the duplicate to it. You might wish to tag them for merger and discuss it on the articles' talk page first if you think there might be controversy. See [[Wikipedia:Merging_and_moving_pages]] for more information. If you have questions let me know. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 03:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Question about SP2 RfD closure ==

Hi J,

I'm wondering how my SP2 deletion request was closed so early and why. I thought it had to stay for one week or so. Furthermore, we have 2 votes: one for deletion (mine), one for redirect. How could the result be "redirect"? --[[User:Gennaro Prota|Gennaro Prota]] [[User talk:Gennaro Prota|(talk)]] 06:38, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:The result was not "redirect". It was converted to a disambig page. If a redirect can have multiple meanings, then it should not be a redirect and should be a disambig instead. Ignoring the [[Service pack]] and [[Windows XP]] entries, there are still other valid meanings for SP2. Therefore, it needs to be a disambig page. The inclusion of the [[Service pack]] and [[Windows XP]] entries on the disambig page then becomes an article content issue and no longer an issue for RfD. Early closings of RfD discussions happen when the answer is obvious per policy (speedy deletes, speedy keeps, disambig). The same as with all other deletion processes. Let me know if you have further questions... -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 13:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late reply. Yes, I understand now, and know something more about Wikipedia policies :). "Redirect" was a ''lapsus linguae'' (actually, ''lapsus digitorum'' :)), I meant "disambig", of course. Thank you very much for your work. --[[User:Gennaro Prota|Gennaro Prota]] [[User talk:Gennaro Prota|(talk)]] 23:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
For a second, I got too trigger-happy and plopped a warning on you. I guess I should stop fighting vandalism while deprived of sleep. Anyway, sorry again. [[User:Master of Puppets|Mopper]][[User talk:Master of Puppets| Speak!]] 20:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. Mistakes happen. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 20:03, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

==C-Nut==

Well he has been arsing around on other pages, even when others have complained. The message was between him and myself - you weren't the subject at all. [[User:John Smith's|John Smith's]] 22:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Understood. My point was that there are established ways of handling these types of issues. It is better to stick with those and maintain the higher ground. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 00:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

== Blanking Steven Woolley ==

The page needs to be merged and redirected to [[Stephen Woolley]]. I was trying to do this but must have messed up.[[User:Piersmasterson|Piersmasterson]] 09:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:I have taken care of it. You might want to check if I missed anything. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] 02:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sathy ==

JLaTondre..they r both different persons..only there is information about the son in the fahers page..so it has to be a soft redirect ...thanks any way, i feel it should be appropriate for a soft redirect what do u say...start a discussion? --[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathy]] 05:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

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Sathyan Bhrama:

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Hi people,

My name is Sathyan Bhrama, call me sathy. You can write to me at ''sathyan.bhrama@gmail.com''
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User talk:OrphanBot

2006-05-17T08:06:08Z

Sathyan Bhrama: that image

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Are you here about an image that you uploaded as {{tl|PD-CAGov}}? It appears that most of those aren't actually PD: see [[Wikipedia:Public domain status of official government works]].
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Lost your image? If it was deleted due to a lack of source or copyright information, OrphanBot's probably kept a copy, and I'll willingly re-upload it for you if you can provide the source of the image and correct copyright information. Place a message on [[User talk:Carnildo|my talk page]], and I'll see what I can do.
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== Need Help Copyrighting Image that I have already uploaded without uploading it again. ==
'''Hello, I am a new user here, so i need to familiarize myself with the system and I need you're assistance. I recieved you're warning and I would like to know how I may go about giving my image a copyright tag WITHOUT having to re-upload it. Also, I apologize for posting in the wrong place if I did, but this was the first interactve forum I have seen so... yes. Thank you.
SkySurferess-5/14/2006'''

== Get rid of this damn thing NOW!!! ==

I've just about had it with this biotch. It is destroying images that had every right to be on wikipedia and that I had worked so hard to find. If this bot continues to destroy images and articles for the sheer pleasure of its owner, the site administrators will be immediatly contacted so they can make sure that it never terrorizes again!
:Please do contact them. And then maybe you can explain why you can't be bothered to follow the [[WP:IUP|basic rules]] of uploading images. --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 07:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Is it normal that this thing deletes everything that its on his way? Most of my contributions are as ''Fair Use'' and with a explanation, but it keeps trying to delete them. [[User:Messhermit|Messhermit]] 13:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

:Perfectly normal. You aren't bothering to indicate where you're getting the images or who created them, which is a basic requirement of Wikipedia's [[WP:IUP|image use policy]]. --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 18:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

You have just removed my image (right) [[:Image:reddoglogo2.jpg]], though I indicated that I had the copyright & am therefore entitled to use it. Such sabotage is a criminal waste of my time. I posted 'Carnildo' to make it clear that this was my image, created by myself. I only upload images that are my property.I don't have time or energy to keep chasing this stuff up. Please stop wrecking my entries or I'll stop making contributions . [[User:Curiousexplorer|Curiousexplorer]] 10:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

:You uploaded it, and you may have the copyright to it, but you neglected to indicate what terms you were licensing it under. This is a [[WP:IUP|basic requirement]] of uploading images on Wikipedia. I note you say you have permission to use it on Wikipedia, but this isn't good enough -- you need to get permission to release the image under a free license. --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 19:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

This is my last edit EVER to Wikipedia. No point when work is mindlessly deleted. Pictures tht I OWN that are over 100 years old were jsut deleted. bye. - gs

This thing sucks. It does way more harm than good. Ever heard of fair use,guy? A case-by-case process would work better. You err on the side of less information. That's bad for Wikipedia. BOT SUCKS!!!

:I am sorry that Carnildo has such an inferiority complex and feels he is contributing to the project by operating this horrible bot that everybody hates. Yeah, Carnildo, you're getting your name out there and I hope that makes you feel good about yourself, but you're just destroying information by running this sorry thing. [[User:Juppiter|juppiter]] [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User_talk:Juppiter|bon giorno]] [[Special:Contributions/Juppiter|#c]] 06:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
::This bot is a very useful tool in battling the inability of a large number of people with the inability to source or tag correctly. [[User:The JPS|The JPS]] 12:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to tag the image with correct copyright information.
G_leonard_195.jpg was taken from ESPN's website, I included it in the summary which specific page it was from. [[User:AntiG|AntiG]]

I don't like this Bot, it is very silly and makes repetitive edits which shouldn't be repetitive, but should be made on a case by case basis.
[[User:Benjaminstewart05|Benjaminstewart05]] 17:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

==Copyright in the Ale Yarok and Tafnit logos==
That's what it is written in the template which in the picture description pages of the logos of Ale Yarok and Tafnit in the Hebrew Wikipedia:
<div style="text-align: center;">That is a [[logo]] of a commercial company or another organization. The estimation is that it is allowed to use in picture of that kind in Wikipedia in the article that deal with the specific company of the specific organization under the conditions of [[Copyright|fair treatment]].</div>

<div style="text-align: center;">'''It is necessary to edit this picture and to add to it the name of the article in which the fair use is allowed.'''</div>
[[User:Toya|Toya]] 07:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== Bot malfunction ==
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed undone by an '''[[Internet bot|automated bot]]'''. Please use [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|the sandbox]] for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome page]] if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. If you feel you have received this notice in error, please [[User talk:Tawkerbot2|contact the bot owner]]  // [[User:Tawkerbot2|Tawkerbot2]] 18:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:Tawkerbot2 gave this message after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akatsuki_%28Naruto%29&diff=prev&oldid=44388052 this]. What happened? --[[User:HartzR|HartzR]] 18:57, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

::Two different sorts of flat-out impossible, and one bug. Looking at OrphanBot's logs:
::*Wikipedia returned an edit page with an empty edit field -- a bug I was told had been fixed several days ago.
::*Then, OrphanBot manages to pattern-match 27 bytes of pattern against an empty edit text zero times -- and do so for a total matched length of 17 bytes.
::*Because of a bug in OrphanBot's code, a successful (but flat-out impossible) match against an empty page text doesn't trigger the "match too short" error-check.
::*OrphanBot then assumed that the image had been transcluded via template, and then did what it thought was a null edit to clear any stale "image used in" references.
::--[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 21:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== Image:Green.darner2web.jpg ==

Originally this image was tagged with <nowiki>{{PD-CAGov}}</nowiki>. Apparently something must have happened with this tag, as it doesn’t show up any more in the description of the image. That is probably why the bot has marked this image for deletion. Or isthere a bug in your bot ?

Anyway, I have changed it to the not-so-apt tag <nowiki>{{PD-USGov}}</nowiki> and given the rationale from the original website why this photo is public domain

Can you look into it and see if this is OK and remove the delete template? [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 18:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

==Image:NorfolkSeal.gif==
Your bot needs to be seriously worked on because it is tagging images that are legitimate and fair-use. The Norfolk Seal image is a city-owned seal of the City of [[Norfolk, Virginia]], which is owned by the city itself, and is public property. The image is also appropriately marked with an image copyright tag, as per wikipedia guidelines, and in fact, was tagged appropriately when this stupid bot found the image!! Furthermore, it's interesting to point out that I have yet to see anyone complaining about any of the city seal images placed on other city pages, either!!

Your bot also appears to have tagged Image:Ky_unbridled.jpg, which I also uploaded. Unfortunately, I did not hear about this until after it was deleted. However, this image, like the city of Norfolk logo, is the current marketing logo of the state of [[Kentucky]] (it's on their [http://www.kentucky.gov/ website]), and as such, is public property. The bot claims that there was no copyright tag in the image, which I beg to differ, as I am always very careful about selecting the correct image copyright tag for all of the images that I upload. In this case, the copyright tag used should be the same one (or very similar one) to the one used by the city of Norfolk seal.

I think it would be highly advisable if you would please discontinue the use of this bot until issues such as this can be resolved. [[User:Derek.cashman|Dr. Cash]] 19:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

:If it's public property, then why does that site say "Copyright © 2006 Commonwealth of Kentucky All rights reserved?" Not every government releases its works into the public domain. --<strike>''[[User:Rory096|Rory]]''[[WP:EA|0]]'''[[User talk:Rory096|96]]'''</strike> 21:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

==Seal Of Approval==
[[Image:Kimjongil-wave.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I'm [[Kim Jong-il]] and I approved this Bot!]]
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== Is it possible to have the bot notify the talk page before Deleting ==

Hey Orphanbot owner, I was wondering if it would be possible to also notify the talk page of whichever article the picture is on because your bot deleting a picture that someone else added. Although it was true that the guy forgot to give the source, The picture itself was a promotional phote and thus fair use. I had to replace the picture with one that wasn't as good.- [[User:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg]] | [[User talk:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Talk]] 22:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

==Photo deletion==

You have deleted a photo of [[Michelle Grattan]], which I took, released into the public domain, and tagged accordingly. What is your justification for doing this? [[User:Adam Carr|Adam]] 03:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Is it then your position that if I upload one of my own photos, and someone else makes a technical modification to the photo, such as improving the colour, it then ceases to be the original photo and becomes a new photo without a source which you are entitled to delete? I would like to see the legal basis on which you take this position. [[User:Adam Carr|Adam]] 05:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

When people say they "take a picture" it's usually implied that they used the camera to capture the original image--not to steal or grab an already-existing picture. --[[User:Brandon Dilbeck|Brandon Dilbeck]] 21:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Why did you remove my image of Kathryn Leigh Scott from DS? ==

I'm MAD at you for removing my image of KLS from DS??? WTH you remove it???? Why you did it???????????????????????

Spencer Karter

:What image are you referring to? --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 08:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Image:CTtpke1.jpg ==

It's an image that one of my colleagues gave to me.

His e-mail is [conntnpke@aol.com]

--[[User:NicAgent|NicAgent]] 02:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Tomislav Dretar photo ==

Hi, photo is my personaly proprietary - ask you ThomasBoth. --[[User:Tomislav Dretar|Tomislav Dretar]] 11:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Hi, See, I have copyright of photos: Me, Tomislav Dretar. You may to put back in place my photo. Sincerly, Tomislav Dretar.

See:
[[Image:Tomislav Dretar personaly.png]]

==Vandalism on [[Muhammad]]==

Please refrain from removing content from Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Muhammad]]. It is considered [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. If you want to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you. 

Additionally, please do not erase such warnings from your talk page. Thanks.[[User:Timothy Usher|Timothy Usher]] 06:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== PD-USGov Image ==
OprhanBot has been removing a number of images that are tagged with PD-USGov license information, as such these images do not nessecarly need to have a source. Do you think it would be posible to add a layer of checking to OrphanBot to ensure that these images are not nessecary affected? -- [[User:Darkstar949|Darkstar949]] 22:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

==Vandalism on [[Muhammad]]==

Please refrain from removing content from Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Muhammad]]. It is considered [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. If you want to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you. [[User:Timothy Usher|Timothy Usher]] 11:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
== Image:Krillitaneforlist.jpg ==

More info's added now. But what more could you want than {{tv-screenshot}}? I'd like a reply please.--[[User:Keycard|'''Keycard''']] ([[User talk:Keycard|talk]]) 07:08, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

You are a Nazi bot that even deletes pictures that I took and scanned myself.

==Who's running this thing?==
Your bot just removed Thomas Jefferson from the list of founding fathers of the United States. Completely removed - not just the image but even mention of his name from the page. And this for a supposed unsorced image that is already listed as present on Commons! And which is hundreds of years old. Please revert the rest of the removals of [[:Image:Thomas Jefferson rev.jpg]]. Please be more careful. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 15:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not specifying the source?! ==

Are you nuts?! It's logo! L-O-G-O! I have no idea who created it! You know what... If you tell me who created, let's say, [[W.I.T.C.H.]] logo, I'll maybe tell you who created this! As for the source, I got it from Modra Lasta's website [[http://www.skolskaknjiga.hr/Data/lasta2004-2005/lasta1.htm]]. See? No "copyright violation". Don't do such stupid thing ever again! I wouldn't like to consider you an idiot! Angry [[User:Keaze|Keaze]]

== Log of unusual finds ==
=== Beginning set at 1146981138 for task 'source' ===
=== Beginning set at 1146981160 for task 'copyright' ===
*Found image [[:Image:Town_of_Monroe_Seal.jpg]] in [[Template:Monroe, Connecticut infobox]]
*Found image [[:Image:British_Museum_Great_Court_roof_edit.jpg]] in [[Wikipedia:Featured pictures candidates/January-2006]]
*Found image [[:Image:British_Museum_Great_Court_roof_edit.jpg]] in [[Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/British Museum Great Court]]
*Could not determine uploader for [[:Image:Cie_chromaticity_diagram_wavelength.png]]
*Found image [[:Image:KUW-coat.gif]] in [[Template:Politics of Kuwait]]
*Found image [[:Image:KUW-coat.gif]] in [[Template:Kuwait infobox]]
*Found image [[:Image:KUW-coat.gif]] in [[Template:Country infobox data Kuwait]]
*Found image [[:Image:KUW-coat.gif]] on 7 content pages
*Commons image [[:Image:CD_DVD_BD_HDDVD.gif]] found
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Yesterday]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2005 September 15]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Monicasdude/Workshop]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-04-21 MDD4696]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 April 23]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 April 26]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young Liberals of Canada]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Anber]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 April 27]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Always Postpone Meetings with Time-Wasting Morons]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 April 29]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sock 'n' Buskin Theatre Company]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Representative Party of Ontario]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 April 30]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive94]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 May 1]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Detailed breakdown of the USA PATRIOT Act, Title II]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zichron Kedoshim, Congregation]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 May 2]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Canadians in 24]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sosa gliding club]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rudolf Vrba/draft]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Images Toronto]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 May 3]]
*Found image [[:Image:CcoacrestB.PNG]] in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Collection Lawyers]]
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== Image copyright problem with Image:2dstand6bs.jpg ==

I'm sorry, but what exactly is the picture missing in the copyrights? I put who it was created by, who it belongs to, where I found it, how I found it, what more does it need? - [[User:Freedman|Brittany]]
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== OrphanBot Is An Asshole!!! ==

Damn what in the hell?!?!? I keep putting pictures up with the info and this damn guy keeps on taking them away! What in the hell is up with that?!?!? You are pissing off the wrong damn person you hear!!!

'''THEY DON'T CALL ME THE SON OF THE SOUTH FOR NO DAMN REASON!!!'''
[[Image:Confederate Battle Flag.svg|thumb|right|IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME KISS MY ASS!!!]]

There is an "Image copyright problem with Image" with you OrphanBot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU AIN'T The durn boss of Wikipedia so stop trying to be the boss!

All of them pictures you took away are back up righ damn now!

'''If you want a war then you got it'''!

You know what? You need to get a life! If this is all you do then you must be a sad little nerd or a damn freak!

---kiss my ass---

I've done had it with you!

I don't hate many people but I do you!
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== Hey you ==
You suck, you deleted my image and it had all the proper info. --[[User:DragonWR12LB|DragonWR12LB]] 20:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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is the licence of Image:Demaina.JPG is ok now?![[User:Solitary Copt|Solitary Copt]] 03:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
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==1985 World Series==
Why are you wasting my time sending me messages about a particular baseball play image (the infamous Don Denkinger call from Game 6 of the 1985 World Series)? I clearly and specifically identified the image as from a television program; ABC's telecast of that particular game. Technically, the image is a DVD capture from ''100 Years of the World Series''. [[User:TMC1982|TMC1982]] May 14, 2006 (UTC)
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== that image ==

please delete it, it was uploaded by mistake--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|Sathyan Bhrama]] 08:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

American Cinematheque Award

2006-05-17T08:05:02Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

''This annual award honors "an extraordinary artist in the entertainment industry who is fully engaged in his or her work and is committed to making a significant contribution to the art of the motion pictures.''

American Cinematheque Award

2006-05-17T08:04:40Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

In Which Annie Gives It Those Ones

2006-05-17T07:59:29Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

'''''In Which Annie Gives it Those Ones''''' is a [[1988]] [[India]]n [[film]].

[[Screenplay]] by [[Arundhati Roy]] (who also acts in the film), directed by [[Pradip Krishen]], and starring [[Arjun Raina]] as the title character, along with [[Roshan Seth]].

Set in the [[1970s]], ''In Which Annie Gives it Those Ones'' is a funny film of [[architecture]] students in their final year of college.

The film was part autobiographical with [[Roy]] recounting her own experiencs of studying in the [[School of Planning and Architecture]], a leading architecture institute in [[India]].

'''In Which Annie Gives It Those Ones'''

1988; English; 35mm; 112 Mins; Colour

BANNER
Grapevine Media Pvt. Ltd

CREDIT TITLES
Direction: Pradip Krishen
Story & Screenplay: Arundhati Roy
Cinematography: Rajesh Joshi
Audiography: Indrajit Neogi
Editing: A. Thyagaraju Art

CAST
Arjun Raina
Arundhati Roy
Rituraj
Roshan Seth
Isaac Thomas
Divya Seth
Idries Malik
Moses Uboh
Himani Shivpuri
Shah Rukh Khan
{{spoiler}}
'''SYNOPSIS'''
Anand Grover, better known as Annie, is victimised for making fun of his principal Y.D. Billimoria (popularly known as Yamdoot or Hell's messenger) years ago. At the School of Architecture, New Delhi, Annie is repeating his fifth year for the fourth time. He spends his hours in the hostel which is the best part of his life, by 'giving it those ones' - indulging in daydreams of social upliftment. His latest idea is to plant fruit trees on either side of railway tracks, where rural India defecates daily. The fecal matter will provide the necessary compost for the trees, while the trains, with sprinklers attached, will automatically water the plants.

Annie also keeps two hens in his room and earns a modest sum by selling the eggs, till one day his friend, Mankind, and his Ugandan roommate, Kasozi, make a roasted meal out of them. Soon, however, hirsute Arjun and his girlfriend Radha, a non-conformist student who steals cigarettes from Yamdoot and talks back to the teachers, present Annie with a rabbit.

Many adventures later, the day to submit the thesis draws near, and Annie, urged by his friends, apologises to Yamdoot. A panel of judges call the students one by one for their final interviews and the tension mounts. Radha goes dressed in a saree but wears a man's hat to detract from her sober attire. To make sure that Annie gets a sympathetic hearing from the hostile panel, Radha and Arjun work out a plan. Just when Annie is called in, Yamdoot receives a phone call from his dominating deep-voiced mother, in actuality Mankind. The trick works and the weary panel gives Annie a good grade.

At the party after the graduation ceremony Annie arrives with heavy books under his arm, his hair shaved off and a butterfly painted on his head! He informs his friends that he has decided to study law and then sue Yamdoot. But subsequently, Annie joins the staff at the architecture school and, when Yamdoot retires, even becomes the Head of the Department of Design!

NOTE: Film was the recipient of two National Awards in 1989.
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<div class="usermessage"><center>'''Blnguyen is currently mainly working on.''' [[Portal:Eurovision Song Contest|Eurovision Portal]] [[Portal:Swimming|Swimming Portal]] [[Image:Cscr-featured.png|20px]]
[[Swimming World Swimmers of the Year]] - now a featured list : [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Swimming World Swimmers of the Year|nomination here]] 
I am in the dock at [[Wikipedia:Editor review]] - please comment, and don't hold back! </center></div>

'''Archives'''
*[[/Archive1]]: [[October]] [[2005]] - [[March 2]] [[2006]] (44kb)
*[[/Archive2]]: [[March 3]] [[2006]] - [[March 23]] [[2006]] (40kb)
*[[/Archive3]]: [[March 23]] [[2006]] - [[April 7]] [[2006]] (41kb)
*[[/Archive4]]: [[April 7]] [[2006]] - [[April 27]] [[2006]]
** Some comments of possibly ongoing interest are still on the active talk page, as well as the archive.

== Admin nomination ==

Hi Blnguyen, I want to nominate you for admiship. I feel you are ready to get the addtional responsibilities & tools. I just wanted to ask you if you are interested before nominating you. Please reply ASAP so I can start the nomination procedures.

Thanks

[[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 06:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

: Awww, too bad, I had written a nomination statement & everything! Anyway I'll try after a month if you think you'll be ready by then. [[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 08:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

For one of my favourite people on Wikipedia
{{award2|image=raok barnstar.png|size=100px|topic=The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar|text=For being the most prolific member of the Barnstar Brigade & making sure no valuable contributions go unseen, I hereby award this Barnstar. [[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 03:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC) }}

(P.S Please consider archiving your page, it currently takes nearly a minute to load on my slow dial-up ;) )
*I'll second that archive request! It's huuuge. [[User:beneaththelandslide|michael]] [[User_talk:beneaththelandslide|talk]] 06:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes it's under 32kb again. Thankyou very much for this barnstar. It is a very special variety.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== Please be careful when you revert ==
You reverted the Ashfield article to reinstate some notable citizens (I agree with you). However in doing so, you overwrote some changes I'd made more recently to other sections of the article.
I don't know what the Wiki-ettiquette is for this, but I personally think you should be more careful, and reinstate anything that you write over.
I will put these particular changes back in.
Thanks [[User:99of9|99of9]] 06:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
: Ok sorry, I should have looked more carefully. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 06:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

I just wanted to say thanks for the barnstar. I appreciate it. --[[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 09:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for over in this direction as well ==

Wow! After a really tough day during finals week, the barnstar really made it all feel worthwhile. (I've still got a ton of articles to write, though!!!) Thanks, and cheers! -- [[User:Miwasatoshi|Miwa]] | [[User talk:Miwasatoshi|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Miwasatoshi|Contribs]] 22:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Werribee ==

Blnguyen,
As a lifelong resident of Werribee, Victoria I feel more qualified than one of Adelaide, to comment on Werribee and Westbournes place within it. Thankyou for your input. --[[User:Melbuniartsstudent|Melbuniartsstudent]] 12:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:Well, I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but classifying the establishment of a school and its progress without hard statistics as a large step forward is against the [[WP:NPOV]] policy. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Category: Australian drinking establishments ==

Hi, I am looking to do some cleanup on the articles in the above but I'm stuck with what the naming convention should be. Most of them are just called: Pub name or Pub Name, Suburb. I took a look around and read some of the naming convention articles and see three options: Pub name, Suburb OR Pub name, Suburb, State OR Pub name, Suburb, Australia. The o/seas pubs aren't much help either. Can I get your thoughts on this? [[User:Amitch|amitch]] 13:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

:Hello Amitch. I will post it to [[WP:AWNB]], where the Australian Wikipedians hang around. They will probably have come across this before. You should keep an eye on this as there are a lot of pertinent issues there for Australian Wikipedians. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Norman Yao ==

''Greetings Deville. For your information, I have given evidence that I think that this is a pure hoax. If it were true though, I would have been vociferously campaigning for its retention. By the way, Norman Yao has been deleted, what was its content?? Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 08:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC).''
:Hi, I suspected as much when nothing came up under Olympiad, but I think you've nailed it. Actually, the page on Norman Yao went more easily; It was very much in the same vein, a bio of a NJ student who would have been quite remarkable had he accomplished everything the article claimed (I don't remember exactly what the claims were now, but they were immense), but nothing could be verified by a Google search....other than such a student existed. I put it up for AfD and it went quick. --[[User:Deville|Deville]] ([[User talk:Deville|Talk]]) 14:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== The Desert Kickoff Classic ==

Please do not delete this page. This rivalry was very real, and played for quite a few years. I understand that you can't find it on google, however, I think it would be hard to find most in-state high school football rivalries of the past. This game was a source of pride for may players, students, coaches, and fans. Please do not delete it. Thank you.{{unsigned|Cfconroy}}
: OK, it may be real, I am not questionaing your honesty, but it does not appear to meet the notability guidelines.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== rfa support ==

Thanks for the support on my RFA Blnguyen. It didn't acheive consensus, but hopefully in a few months things will turn out better. Keep on keepin on. [[User:Swatjester|⇒]] [[User_talk:Swatjester|SWATJester]] [[Special:Contributions/Swatjester|Ready]] [[RSTA|Aim]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States_Armed_Forces|Fire!]] 01:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

== Re the whole de-bureaucrating thing ==

Hi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. -- [[User:Francs2000|Fr]][[User:Francs2000/Esperanza|a]][[User talk:Francs2000|ncs2000]] [[Image:Gay flag.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 09:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
: Well, I respect your decision, despite that it being unfortunate. All the best.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 02:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hi==

I saw you on the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/FloNight |RfA]] page of [[User:FloNight|FloNight]] and felt like saying you a big and nice hello. Let us continue to build the [[Wikipedia:Better than the Best|Better than the Best]] global encyclopedia. Thank you and regards. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 16:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

==Esperanza Elections Staff==

Hi Blnguyen! I saw that you were signed up for the elections staff for the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006|Esperanza elections]]. If you have time, please help us out by comparing the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006/vote|votes]] to the [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members/Election|members list]]. If you get around to do this, please leave notice that you have done so at [[Wikipedia_talk:Esperanza/Advisory_Council_Elections_April_2006/Tally]]. Thanks for your time! [[User:EWS23/Esperanza|'''E''']][[User:EWS23|WS23]] | [[User talk:EWS23|(Leave me a message!)]] 17:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ashley Callus ==

The Ashley Callus error was user error not AWB error. Thanks for catching it. [[User:Sreed1234|Sue Anne]] 01:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Tri-Wog ==

An AfD runs for five days, ''or'' until an administrator decides that a consensus has been reached. There was pretty clearly a consensus. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] 02:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

==Electoral districts==

I only made it small because there were so many of them that it was taking up a fair bit of space; feel free to revert if you preferred the larger version. My unalphabetisation was a mistake - there were a couple of formatting errors in there before, and in trying to fix them, I completely messed it up. Eep. Finally, as for the members of electorates, your best bet is probably to get your hands on a copy of the parliamentary record. These are published at the end of each term, and are only published in hardcopy. Among other things, they've got profiles and complete member lists for every division in Qld history. I've been working off these for my [[members of the Queensland Legislative Assembly]] series - they're really useful if you can get your hands on one. I have access to them through the National Library, but your state library could be of use, or if you're in Queensland, maybe a local library. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 04:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RfA ==

FYI, I answered your question on my RfA. If you have any other concerns or questions please don't hesitate to voice them. Thanks. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 05:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was wondering when you we're going to make a decision about that. Just in time too. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 03:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

==Template Barnstar==

{{award2|image=Blueprint Barnstar 2.PNG|size=100px|topic=The Template Barnstar|text=I, Attilio Funel, give [[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]] this deserved barnstar for the adding and creations of hundreds of templates and infoboxes in the sectors of sports and other matters.[[User:Attilios|Attilios]] 11:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC) }}

: Thankyou Attilios. This is a great honour.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 03:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

I'll try but am very busy with real world stuff at the mo'. Give me a day or so. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 08:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Cheers! ==

Thanks for the birthday message...no matter about lateness, thought that counts...great work on Eurovision! Fantastic![[User:Ciriii|Ciriii]] 15:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Directed Studies ==

Link fixed. [[User:Monicasdude|Monicasdude]] 00:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==[[Frank Beaurepaire]]==

Very nice article. Well done -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 05:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
: thankyou :) .[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 01:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for the star! ==

More articles about German towns, and possibly other German things, are coming. [[User:Kelisi|Kelisi]] 17:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

==A landslide victory for [[User:The_JPS|The JPS]] (aka RFA thanks)==

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|Hey, {{PAGENAME}}, thank you so much for your vote and comments in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The_JPS|my RfA]], which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight. If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my [[User talk:The JPS|talk page]], and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever... Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me... 
[[User:The JPS|'''The JPS''']] [[User talk:The JPS|'''talk to me''']] 22:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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==Boy Charlton==
Are you planning on doing this one soon? An interesting life. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 23:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
: Yes, I will be. I also saw my library has a newly arrived biography on him.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 01:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Excellent! I've sent you a couple of emails. -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 01:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Much thanks for the barnstar! I am enjoying the process of incorporating an entire reference work into this project of ours...your recognition is what keeps people like me going. [[User:PaulHanson|Paul]] 02:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wow :) ==

Why thank you for my barnstar :) I am feeling particularly chuffed - this is my first :D My I put it on my user page? (Lol all I was doing before was on a clunky dial-up connection, I got broadband today and now am invincible :P). Nice to see my work is appreciated, and I will certainly remember to call on you should the deletionists start an attack! [[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]] 02:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::And can I just say I loved your response to the [[Candace Michelle Brown]] deletion discussion! Clever - would never have thought of that :) [[User:PageantUpdater|PageantUpdater]] 04:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Comments On George Giffen Article==

As you can see I am relitivly new so if I am posting this in the wrong spot let me know.
I have edited a bit that may be considerd that was not written to a NPOV but still if it comes across that way can you let me know what it is, most of the stuff in the Giffen article was just an attempt to clean it up to make it look better and not my work, I can see how it apperas to be written by a descendant, I will give it another go, please feel free to offer your thoughts [[User:Christopherandrewstevens|Christopherandrewstevens]] 04:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC).

==DYK medal==
Thankyou very much. Out of interest, how did you know though? Did you find my subpage, or is there a log file I'm unaware of? -- [[User:I@n|I@n]] &equiv; [[User_talk:I@n|talk]] 05:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Your [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]] entry for April 28 ==

Which is the new article? I left a note to that effect next to the entry. :-) [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 11:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Oule, Ave, and Hello. I am here only to thank you for voting to keep the [[Aleksandra Wasowicz]] article. I appreciate what you have done. Again, thank you. Over and out. - Deucalionite May 3, 2006 12:03 P.M.

== May the Force be with you.==
[[Image:Nuvola apps kopete.png|thumb|left]]
'''Dear {{PAGENAME}}''',
:'''Thanks''' for voting on [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Master of Puppets|my RFA]]! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. <tt>:)</tt> I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, [[User:Master of Puppets|_-'''M''']] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|'''''o''''']] [[User:Master of Puppets/EA|'''P'''-_]] 21:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the quick revert on my userpage... It looks like the [[User:Captain_Kevles]] is one of many socks:
*[[User:Commodore Kevles|Commodore Kevles]] ([[User talk:Commodore Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Commodore Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Commodore Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Commodore Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Commodore Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:Admiral Kevles|Admiral Kevles]] ([[User talk:Admiral Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Admiral Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Admiral Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Admiral Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Admiral Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:Warlord Kevles|Warlord Kevles]] ([[User talk:Warlord Kevles|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Warlord Kevles|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|Warlord Kevles}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/Warlord Kevles|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|Warlord Kevles}}}}} block log])
*[[User:T3h p3n0r|T3h p3n0r]] ([[User talk:T3h p3n0r|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/T3h p3n0r|contribs]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user={{{2|T3h p3n0r}}}}} page moves] • [[Special:Blockip/T3h p3n0r|block user]] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|page=User:{{{2|T3h p3n0r}}}}} block log])
based on edits. So even after blocking, he may come back... It looks like a gruge against [[User:Mikhajist]], who is on the same IP (?). --[[User:TeaDrinker|TeaDrinker]] 03:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thank you for clearing up my question about NN Companies/Advertisement. I'm doing my damndest to become a solid and positive contributor to Wikipedia, but navigating the rules and regulations for the first time is a bit daunting. [[User:Consequentially|Consequentially]] 04:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

what nonesens were you referring to, friend?

== [[Ajith]] ==

Hi,
I don't know much about the guy, but I do know enough to tell what is valid info & what is POV crap. Have added the article to my watchlist & will keep an eye on it. I'll try & copyedit whatever POV stuff is in there soon.

Thanks

[[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]][[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 09:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Re : George Bush impeachment ==

Thanks for the heads up. There's two ways to go from here - a [[WP:RCU|checkuser]], or/and a [[WP:RFC|RFC]] (if RCU turns out negative). The IP seems to be used by a number of formerly/currently banned users, which means it is possible that we are re-opening a can of worms. Let me know of your opinon on the options. - ''Best regards'', [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 09:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

* I've run the IP through [[WP:RCU|checkuser]], hopefully it'll be able to produce some results on the case and stop this whole madness. - [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 10:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Harbar]] ==
No, it's O.K. Always feel free to ask me, mate. Yeah, usually, but as it's my first admin action I felt lax. I went through it on IRC with Essjay and figured that he might reform after a 24h block, and that I'd keep an eye on him and indef block him if he didn't. Anyway, it doesn't matter since another admin decided to indef block him anyways. [[User:Snoutwood|Snoutwood]] [[User talk:Snoutwood|(talk)]] 04:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Swimming Clubs in Kent==

You are probably right. I have left a message with the user concerned and on the Swimming Clubs in Kent page. I have suggested a redirect to the Swimming Clubs in Kent article as a possible alternative. Nevertheless, we shall leave the [[Black Lion SC]] prod in place for now and see what happens. Given your knowledge, I place great credence in your views on this matter. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 06:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Australian culture==
If you really cared, you'd be trying to give soccer a better rap then what it's getting on that page, like what I'm doing with football.{{unsigned|Sliat 1981}}
: My sporting preference is not the relevant issue; the issue is the content you inserted into the [[Australia]] article. WP is an encyclopedia, it is not for me, you or anybody else to glorify their preferences for whatever they may be. Especially as Australia is an FA, we cannot just accept any old edit.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 06:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you speak english? I have no idea what you're talking about.{{unsigned|Sliat 1981}}
:Personal attack noted with amusement. You cannot make more than three reversions to the same article in 24 hours, otherwise a 24 block will result. You have done so. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[WP:ER|review me]] 07:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

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==Ajith==
I have reverted sections of the article to the Zora version. I will keep a watch on what is added. - [[User:Ganeshk|Ganeshk]] ([[User talk:Ganeshk|talk]]) 23:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3 ==

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==Re: Portal:South Australia==
At this stage, I'm personally not enthusiastic about such a portal - but not necessarily opposed. There are number of portals for subnational entities (aside cities), of which [[Portal:Kerala]] is probably the best maintained. I do think there is a fair amount of quality South Australian content, but not enough of it to avoid repeats. My biggest concern would be maintenance; if [[Portal:Australia]] essentially has only me to maintain it (aside [[P:AU/N]], which has gained patronage since I transcluded it [[WP:AWNB]]), how will portals for the states and territories manage? And although you only propose [[Portal:South Australia]] (which would have at least you and myself), it would be precedent to the others. I think if such portals were created the best option would be to make them navigation-oriented, like [[Portal:Europe]]. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 05:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that you've made me think about it, I'm warming to the idea.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 05:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::Okay, I'm officially warmed. I've been testing around to see what it might look like, and I like it. I'll make the suggestion at [[WP:P/P]] to make sure its not just parochialism ;-)--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 06:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I've started a draft at [[User:Cyberjunkie/Lab]] to just test some things to see if its viable. Please feel free to contribute to it, or to create your own. I'm using the same CSS as I did on [[Portal:Australia]] for consistency.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 07:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Camberwell High Liberal Club ==

Sorry about reverting your AfD, you must have added it seconds before i reverted the previous editors tag deletion. Apologies again! [[User:Rockpocket|Rockpocket]] [[User_talk:Rockpocket|(talk)]] 06:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
: No worries, it's all fine.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

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== New Template:Austsuburb ==

Thought it may be worthwhile creating a new template which allows you to detail some general information about a suburb. Its only a start, could probably do with adding categories at the bottom. Have a look at [[Northgate, South Australia]] and tell me what you think. [[User:Enigmatical|Enigmatical]] 04:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thans for the barnstar ==

Please forgive my rudeness in being so slow to reply and thank you for giving me my first-ever barnstar! It's great to know that my work is appreciated.

I have now nominated myself for adminship, and if you would like to cast a vote you can do so at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/BrownHairedGirl]]. I'd welcome your vote, whether it's to support or to oppose.

Thanks! --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] 11:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Oh dear, it was rude of me again not to notice that you had already voted — but thanks, belatedly, for your support. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] 01:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[Bernard Tomic]] ==
I can't believe they are all voting to keep this article. I'm with you [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernard Tomic|'''here''']] buddy. [[User:OSU80|OSU80]] 22:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

== Comments about page length on TT:DYK ==

Please don't make comments on the length of the pages in [[Template talk:Did you know]]. It is subject to font size and monitor resolution. The only firm rules are that the page be more than 1000 chars in size (Lupin's popups will display this statistic) and not a stub. If you wish to propose page size as another criteria for DYK entries, by all means do so at [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know]], but the Template talk page wouldn't be a good place to introduce a new (unwritten) rule. Thanks! [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 02:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== 3RR ==

Thanks for the notice. But this is ridiculous! Anyhow, I guess I have nothing to worry about. All I did was remove the commercial links. Thanks again! -- [[User:Deepujoseph| thunderboltz]]a.k.a.D[[User:Deepujoseph/Esperanza|e]]epu_Joseph |[[user_talk:Deepujoseph|TALK]] 05:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks for voting in my RfA! ==

Thanks for the vote in my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Amgine|RfA]]! Appreciate the comment. The RfA did not gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted the nom! - [[User:Amgine|Amgine]] 17:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

==Lansing Cricket- A confused pedant writes..==
I guess you meant to say that most cricket pitches ''in the US'' are concrete, not that cricket pitches generally are made of concrete? [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 00:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:Ah, OK. I'm beginning to have an inkling why Australia are prone to handing out cricketing whuppin's- I don't think I've never seen a concrete cricket pitch in the UK in my life, although I must admit it's not something I ever really look out for...The only pitches I've ever seen are grass (max. 1 oe 2 public or club strips per town) or pseudo-astroturf plastic (1 or 2, in secondary (state) schools). Thanks for the response, [[User:Badgerpatrol|Badgerpatrol]] 00:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Yes, I messed up ==

I was trying to delete the personal life section, which consisted of a bunch of sleazy rumors (with no references) and then a denial. But I messed up bigtime, I guess. I grovel in repentance. [[User:Zora|Zora]] 07:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dear Blnguyen ==

Dear Blnguyen, I've taken the time to browse your contributions extensively and was thinking about adding a personal review to the page that you've wisely created in order to get feedback on yourself. However, I believe that in your case, the time for words is over, and it's the right moment to act instead. Therefore, I'd like to suggest you to apply for adminship without delay, and it would be both a pleasure and a privilege if you allow me to nominate you. I very seldom offer myself to nominate someone I've never directly interacted with before, but in your case I can clearly see that you're an asset to our community and a very nice person; to sum it up, exactly the kind of admins that we desperately need. We all believe you're ready. Please, if you wish to accept my proposition, just let me know; I'll be happy to proceed. Cheers, [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] ♥ '''[[User talk:Phaedriel|tell me]]''' - 17:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'll co-nominate based on your helpful presence at [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]]. Please accept this opportunity. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 17:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
::Seems like Blnguyen's got a lot of support votes even before his RFA has begun! Anyway myself, [[User:I@n]] & [[User:Snottygobble]] too have been considering nominating him for some time now & have been corresponding through email. When I first [[User_talk:Blnguyen#Admin_nomination|considered]] nominating him on 25th April he told me he would like to wait for a month before accepting. So Blnguyen do you think you are ready now? [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 18:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree. If [[User:Anwar saadat]] turns up & attcks your RFA (which I have no doubt he would), it will turn into a battle ground for the article [[Ajith]] rather than an RFA. Can you give me your email address (preferably gmail) so we can continue this correspondence there. [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 01:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I respect your decision to defer any nomination for later, but I must comment on your main reason for doing so. If [[User:Anwar saadat]] attacks you during the RfA, other voters have the perogative to dismiss his comments and concentrate on evaluting your contributions instead. Don't let him deter you from an RfA nom - let your contribs and your prior responses to him influence other, non-biased editors. I'm sure the RfA community will be excellent in weeding out any invalid opposes or attacks. [[User talk:Kimchi.sg|Kimchi]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kimchi.sg&action=edit&section=new sg] 02:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Do you want to update your remark [[Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts#7,500+ edits|here]]? :-) [[User:NoSeptember|'''NoSeptember''']] [[User talk:NoSeptember|''talk'']] 14:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== ADMIN HELP - I have been autoblocked ==

I have been taken out by collateral damage from [[User:Naconkantari]].

:You were blocked by Naconkantari for the following reason (see our blocking policy):
"Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Test123456789". The reason given for Test123456789's block is: "please contact an administrator for verification, as described on this page"."

Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>{{unblock| Some collateral damage, see above}}</nowiki>[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

:Done. [[User talk:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] 04:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::Thankyou very much Snottygobble.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 04:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:::You're welcome. [[User talk:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] 04:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

==Vandalism Question==

I see that right now you are stopping someone from switching the incorrect pictures on a page and he continues to do it. How do you block him from continuing to do it? Is this an administrator's power or can anyone block a vandal? Just wanted to know, since I have experienced this before. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] 06:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I guess the policy makes sense. I will stop by and review you later when I take a look at your contributions. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] 06:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:Anwar saadat]] ==

On the [[WP:AN/I]], you meant that Prin had the socks, not Anwar right?[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 07:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'll clarify that. --[[User:Rory096|Rory096]] 07:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

== Archive ==

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==DYK==

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And another one!

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Way to go! Please keep it up, you rock! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 00:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== My RFA ==

[[Image:Tournesol.png|left|40px]]Hi {{PAGENAME}},

Thank you for strongly supporting my RFA! Even though it did not succeed I want to heartily thank you for your faith in me & my abilities. If it weren't for you guys I probably would have never been confident enough to consider myself for the position. I will look to keep your confidence in me intact for a long time to come.

Cheers

[[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 00:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Clarification ==

From [[User talk:Srikeit]]: ''as Nichalp did when he tried to gatecrash the Aucaman arbitration and decided to try and get Zora banned'' -- err... from this statement it appears that I was trying to get Zora banned, which I was not. Regards, [[user:Nichalp|=Nichalp]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|«Talk»=]] 11:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

: I didn't word it very well. I meant "he" in the sense of Anwar, and was referring to you rebutting Anwar's claims against Zora. Sorry.[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 00:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==Request for Editor / User Page Review==
Hey Blnguyen –

You opposed [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Joturner|my last RfA in March]] on rationale I believe may have been related to [[User:Joturner|my user page]]. In the time since then, I have changed my page to be more [[universalism|universalist]] (which still conforms with my personal beliefs) and removed the majority of information regarding my conversion to Islam in favor of a section on my philosophy (as well as [[User:Joturner/Suggest an Axiom|yours if you desire]]). Now, I'm looking for your feedback on what you think of the redesign of the page and whether it is sufficient in quelling the March controversy over the page as well as solving the issue about possible inability to maintain a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], especially in religion-related articles. For what it's worth, the reason I kept a condensed version of the timeline was because there were, and still are, many people who find it interesting instead of a form of proselytization. Many people have also given me positive feedback on [[User talk:Joturner|my talk page]] regarding the look of the page. I personally believe that it is okay to insert individuality onto user pages, especially if it still promotes a sense of community. That is what I was going for with this current version of my user page.

Please make comments regarding the user page on [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Joturner|my editor review page]]. Thanks in advance. [[User:Joturner|joturn]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|e]][[User:Joturner|r]] 15:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Gmail ==

I see you are online right now. Why don't you log in gmail & we can chat with google chat? [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 00:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:I just sent you a mail. [[User:Srikeit|Srik]][[User:Srikeit/Esperanza|e]][[User:Srikeit|it]]'''('''[[User_talk:Srikeit|talk]] ¦ [[Special:Emailuser/Srikeit|✉]]''')''''' 08:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Just to point out ==

I noted that you've said Nichalp didn't get the DYK medal. Actually I wanted to point out that he has already been awarded that if you can see in his userpage, not that i'm against you awarding it again. Just wanted to let you know though cuz I tried to award him a new barnstar and found he has really almost all barnstars in his barn so the best for him was the barnstar of barnstars. Thanx. --[[User:Idleguy|Idleguy]] 05:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sathyan Bhrama ==

Hey okay...Blnguyen. A doubt ok, how do I earn a barnstar? {{unsigned|Sathyan Bhrama}}

:Well, see [[Wikipedia:Barnstars]] for a comprehensive guide on the official barnstars. Generally, there is no strict criteria, people give it to fellow wikipedians if they feel that the recipient deserves recognition for their contributions. Although some people have self-awarded barnstars. Out of the Indian contributors, [[User:Nichalp]] and [[User:Bhadani]] are probably the heaviest contributors, and have the most barnstars, displayed on their userpage. Regards,[[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK==

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== [[John Davies (swimmer)]] and [[John Davies (judge)]] ==

Hey there Thebainer. I created the article about the swimmer and noticed that you had put a redlink at [[John Davies]] to an Australian judge. Could you be referring to the same person? ... [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's a different person, I added that link when creating [[List of Judges of the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital Territory]] and disambiguating the names in that. This Davies was a Federal Court judge from 1978 to 1998. Interesting article on the swimmer though! --[[User:Thebainer|bainer]] ([[User_talk:Thebainer|talk]]) 09:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Deprod ==

I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from [[Killing the Buddha]], which you proposed for deletion, because I feel that the deletion of this article may be controversial. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to the article, as [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] is only for non-controversial deletions. Instead, feel free to list it at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks! [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|'''juice''']][[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]] 21:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

==Rani's page==
Please stay out of Rani Mukerji's page. I am already having issues and problems. Don't create new ones. Thanks! You can work on something else. We have plumcouch, zora and pa7 on the page to name a few. [[User:shez_15|shez]] 21:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== RfA timing ==

Most new questions added on to RfAs happen within the first three days, and any commentary that needs to be responded to will most likely happen in that window as well. It'd be best if you could be around for the duration of the RfA, but if you must miss some days it's better to have those towards the end of the seven days rather than the beginning. So, I'd recommend in your case that you begin the RfA on a Monday or Tuesday, and at the latest a Wednesday. Hope that helps, --[[User:Durin|Durin]] 12:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== DYK!!! ==

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I have no idea what this article was trying to tell me but I picked it anyway.. hehe. '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 13:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks!! ==

Hi Blnguyen! Thanks for the DYK medal. :) Until you mentioned it, I did not know that I had produced so many DYK! I also believe that there could be one more regarding the [[Pushkar]] fair being the largest cattle fair in the world. It would probably be in the long archives. A technical prob is preventing me from adding the barnstar to the list, I'll try again later. [[user:Nichalp|=Nichalp]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|«Talk»=]] 17:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dear B ==

Dear B, I completely respect your decision to postpone a little your nomination to RfA, and I believe you're acting correctly. Your patience should be praised, and I fully understand that other people have already expressed interest to nominate you. So please, do proceed as you have planned; I'm sure it'll be for the better. Rest assured that, when the time comes, you'll see my strong support sitting in your list! Should you ever need my help, please, don't hesitate to ask. Kisses, [[User:Phaedriel|Phaedriel]] ♥ '''[[User talk:Phaedriel|tell me]]''' - 21:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:you'll get my support too, to be sure! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

==DYK redux!!==

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Thanks for your MANY contributions! '''[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]][[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

==Help in Mosman==
Could I get your advice on the Mosman, NSW article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosman%2C_New_South_Wales). There is a chunk of text continually being added from the local council website, and a user from purportedly from the Mosman Library stating that they are happy to have it added with appropriate attribution. I still think it's against policy, though, and the text is not exactly encyclopaedic? [[User:Slf67|Steve]] 01:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
: I am not an expert in these things, but a cut and paste from an external website can only be done when that party explicitly "gives permission" to do so. In this case, I have seen administrators (I am not an admin, not yet anyway) tell the person who is claiming to be the presumed copyright holder to use the "email this user" option in the toolbox to send mail to an administrator from an email address that is associated with the organization which owns copyright to confirm that they really are the owners of the copyright. So I think they should get an account, set the email to their Mosman council email, and then email and administrator to verify that you are the copyright owner and are happy for it to be put on the wikipedia. Regards, [[User:Blnguyen|ßlηguγΣη]] | [[User talk:Blnguyen|Have your say!!!]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Blnguyen|review me]] 02:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Ein bißchen Frieden ==

Hi Blnguyen, I was already thinking about whether I like the page title (the article is nice, thanks for DYK-nomming it!). The correct German title has an ß (which you should not confuse with a β) and "bißchen" is lowercase. As it is "bisschen" now in reformed German orthography and the ß is not very popular on enwiki anyway (there is often debate on whether to use it), the ss is probably fine, just the capitalization is wrong: [[Ein bisschen Frieden]] would be better, I think. Unless you impose English capitalization rules for titles. So anyway, these are my thoughts on this issue. I don't know yet if I'll be here to check the DYK update (and don't edit much in that area), but I'll try to keep an eye on it if possible. Thank you, and happy editing, [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 02:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Editor review==
Yeah, you're right, argument is probably too strong or inappropriate a word to describe it. Don't take it out of context ;) Cheers, [[WP:AFL|R]][[Special:Contributions/Rogerthat|o]][[User:Rogerthat|gerthat]] ''[[User_talk:Rogerthat|Talk]]'' 06:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== from sathyan Bhrama ==

Hey how do i change my signature to something more colour full?

User talk:Zpb52

2006-05-17T07:50:53Z

Sathyan Bhrama: Sathyan Bhrama

{{Usercomment}}
*[[User talk:Zpb52/Archive1]]

== Re: Please Use Edit Summaries ==

I try but it's sometimes hard to know what to put in them :( [[User:Sweetiepetie|Sweetie Petie]] 12:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== All in good fun, mate. ==

She knows me. --[[User:Abnerian|Abnerian]] 15:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Regarding Revision of supposed vandalism to Kellie Pickler article. ==

You said that I should have used an edit summary on the Kellie Pickler article. In fact I did use the edit summary to provide a valid reason for deleting unsourced, unverified rumors and original reasearch, you then reverted my changes as vandalism. Please explain to me how deleting rumors is vandalism. [[User:Batman2005|Batman2005]] 17:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
::No worries, i actually didn't see that I had cut off the sentence half way through. My mistake on that. [[User:Batman2005|Batman2005]] 17:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thanks for reverting me on [[User talk:AmiDaniel/VandalProof]]. I didn't know what that button would do. [[User:BrokenSegue|''B''roken]][[User talk:BrokenSegue|''S''egue]] 17:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

==Speedy Delete==
I think you need to take the speedy delete off since the only ground you had for putting it up (duplicated info) is no longer valid. [[User:Zzz345zzz|Zzz345zzz]] 18:08, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Jim_Rome_Show&diff=next&oldid=52943462 This] edit ==

It was legit, I restored it. Thanks for looking out. [[User:TacoDeposit|TacoDeposit]] 20:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== SKeep, etc. templates ==

I'm not sure about using the funky symbols, but if you remove the templates entirely, a lot of AfD discussions are going to look really odd. Just an opinion. [[User:Fan-1967|Fan1967]] 00:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zack -Speedy Delete happy or what ==

Zack, you know, I went back to each of the sites you decided to speedy delete and all my hard work was gone. I'd prefer to have been pointed out by you what you didn't dig and how to cure which logically could have been just a couple omitions I would think.

Can you restore your dasterdly destructive work and have a little dialog with me here?
I read in the Wiki Speedy Delete verbiage that you admin type are suposed to excersize a little more understanding "even you were once new at this".

Help me out here bro.

1. Wiki is completely ignorant of what an ICP is. Try looking it up and you get the Insane Clown Posse, COMPLETE WITH A LINK TO THEIR SITE and links to buy their albums etc. What's up with that. You zapped me for having a link back to my self because I AM AN ICP (Independent Content Provider)

Explain how an artist with a link to his page is different some how... I'm listening???

2. Shared Media Licensing, Inc - SML - is also proving Wiki's ignorance. Everything I posted up was factual information INFORMATION which is what Wiki's suposed to be all about. Maybe I screwed up in 3 out of 70 words there or something but come on I cannot even correct it since nothing I wrote is there now. How about restoring it and telling me what you didn't dig. By the way, I'm and ICP - FOR - SML, I'm NOT SML... so any link in the 411 I posted to them benefits me NOTTA ZIP NO WAY NO HOW.

3. CSR Radio - you have other online streaming audio radio stations listed which describe themselve and point to themselves... what the heck was the issue with what I listed.

4. Chemistry Set Records - description of what it is (ICP for Weedshare, promoter of independent artists, etc.) with links to my sites. Other businesses are described and have links to their site - SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY did you not like man? Let's FIX instead of BLOW INTO OBLIVIAN my work here ok?

Thanks in advance for your reply. {{unsigned|ChemSet}}

:Hi there, Zack - Kind of stumbled upon this situation by accident, and I'm hoping to shed a bit of light. I wanted to remind you that it is good practice to begin discussion with an editor of a given questionable page before nominating it for [[WP:SD|speedy deletion]]. As an alternative method, if the pages were questionable, but in [[WP:AGF|good faith]] by a [[WP:DBN|new editor]] you could have gone through the [[WP:PROD|proposed deletion process]] or even the [[WP:AfD|regular AfD process]]. Communication has really been lacking around the project, and the loss of any well-faithed editor is a severe pain in my side. I really would like to remind you to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] when dealing with new editors and new pages. Even if the article isn't [[WP:NN|notable]] for the Wikipedia, it should be explained without WikiJargon well before you take decisive action. You were certainly right on his talk page to refer him to an admin; lets also take more responsibility in [[WP:WC|welcoming newcomers]] and making their experience accessible and managable. Hope you understand that this whole comment is in good tone and mere reflection. Happy editing, [[User:Wes!|W]][[WP:ESP|e]][[User:Wes!|s!]] [[User_talk:Wes!|T]][[Special:Contributions/Wes!|c]] 08:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for reverting [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TantalumTelluride&diff=52612130&oldid=50794166 vandalism] on my user page a few days ago. By the way, you might be interested in helping out with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Country Music|WikiProject Country Music]]. We're just getting started, and we're desperate for membership. And it looks like you've done some great work on some articles related to Nashville. Thanks, again.--[[User:TantalumTelluride|Tantalum]][[User talk:TantalumTelluride|T]][[User:TantalumTelluride/Esperanza|e]][[User talk:TantalumTelluride|lluride]][[User:TantalumTelluride/WikiProject Country Music|♪]] 21:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Flaws in VandalProof? ==

I just discovered that some of the vandalism to my talk page by {{User|24.15.61.184}} didn't actually get reverted. I'm folding in the corrections along with other changes, but I thought you would want to know; if the tool is unreliable, it's best if bugs get reported early... -- [[User:Antaeus Feldspar|Antaeus Feldspar]] 23:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

== Concerns about your VP Use ==

I hate to drop all of this on you in the midst of your RfA; however, [[User:Stifle]] has echoed some concerns about your usage of [[WP:VandalProof]]. As I stated on your RfA, this is the first I've even heard of any problems you've been having, and I would have much preferred receiving a message if there bugs or problems that I needed to address. I feel that some of your edits are of great concern, and I would appreciate if you could comment on [[User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Abuse]] and specifically address the diffs provided by Stifle. I'd also like to ask that if you have similar problems in the future, you leave a note either on my talk page or one of VandalProof's talk page so that I can get to the bottom of what went wrong. Thanks. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 19:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sathyan Bhrama ==

Hey Zack..Yeah thanks for the tip. Can we be friends...Send me an email if we can?

--[[User:Sathyan Bhrama|sathy]] 07:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

MapleStory

2006-05-17T07:46:13Z

Sathyan Bhrama:

see also [[Maple (disambiguation)]]
{{Infobox CVG| title = MapleStory
|image = [[Image:MapleStory.png|250px]]
|developer = [[Wizet]]
|publisher = [[Wizet]], [[Nexon]], [[Shanda]], [[Asiasoft|AsiaSoft]], [[NXGames]], and [[Gamania]]
|designer =
|engine =
|released =[[Image:Flag_of_South_Korea.svg|22px|South Korea]] [[May]] [[2002 in video gaming|2002]] [[Image:Flag of Japan.svg|22px|Japan]] [[November]] [[2003 in video gaming|2003]] [[Image:Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg|22px|China]] [[2004 in video gaming|2004]] [[Image:Flag of the Republic of China.svg|22px|Taiwan]] [[July 4]], [[2005 in video gaming|2005]] [[Image:Flag of Thailand.svg|22px|Thailand]] [[August 29]], [[2005 in video gaming|2005]] (Global) [[May 26]], [[2005 in video gaming|2005]] (SEA) [[June 23]], [[2005 in video gaming|2005]]
|genre = [[MMORPG]]
|modes = [[Massively multiplayer online game|MMO]]
|ratings =
|platforms = [[Microsoft Windows|Windows]] [[Windows 98|98]]/[[Windows Me|ME]]/[[Windows 2000|2K]]/[[Windows XP|XP]]
|media =
|requirements = Intel Celeron 500 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM, 300 MB hard disk space, Internet connection (at least 56 kbit/s) and Direct3D support
|input = [[Computer keyboard|Keyboard]] and [[Computer mouse|mouse]]
}}
'''''MapleStory''''' ([[Korean language|Korean]]:메이플 스토리) is a free, two-dimensional, [[side-scrolling]] [[MMORPG|online game]] developed by the [[Korea]]n company [[Wizet]]. It is published by various companies, such as [[Nexon]] (NexonKorea & NexonJapan), [[NXGames]], [[Shanda]], [[Asiasoft|AsiaSoft]], and [[Gamania]]. Although gameplay is free, many player appearances and [[gameplay]] enhancements can be purchased from the "[[MapleStory#Cash Shop|Cash Shop]]" with actual [[currency]]. Several versions of the game are available for specific countries or regions, each of which has its own set of worlds. ''MapleStory'' has a total of over 50 million players in all of its many versions. MapleStory Global, for players mainly outside of [[East Asia]] and [[Southeast Asia]], has about one million players<ref>[http://gamestudy.org/eblog/?p=32 MapleStory statistics]</ref>.

In the game, players defend the "Maple World" from monsters, as in a typical [[role-playing game]] (a.k.a. "RPG"). Players can interact with others in many ways, such as through chatting, trading and playing [[#Mini-Games|minigames]]. Groups of players can ally together in "parties" to hunt monsters and share the rewards or they can band together under a common name in a guild.

==Gameplay==
[[Image:Maple0030.jpg|thumb|right|A player engaging in the monster-fighting element of the gameplay.]]
As in any typical MMORPG, gameplay centers around venturing into dungeons and combating monsters in real time. However, MapleStory's 2-D side-scrolling viewpoint more closely resembles a [[platform game|platformer]] than the typical 3-D or top-down view of other games.Though the 2-D graphics don't give the player a more realistic feeling, it is an important part of MapleStory, for the 2-D effect helps the game have larger levels. Along with combat, jumping is an integral part of the game.

Characters in MapleStory advance by gaining [[experience point]]s (EXP), leveling up, and collecting various items and pieces of wieldable equipment. The players combat monsters, acquire play money called "Mesos" or "Meru" (depending on version) and various items, as well as completing quests.

MapleStory characters exist in domains called "worlds", e.g., "Scania" or "Juidis". Players are allowed to create up to three different characters in each world. Each world, similar in content between each other in the same version, is split into a maximum of twenty channels, between which characters are allowed to switch<ref>[http://www.maplesea.com/intro/how_to_play.aspx MapleSea's "How to Play" introduction] See "''About the World and Character''" section for MapleStory's general channel information.</ref>. Characters and their items cannot be transferred between worlds<ref>[http://www.mapleglobal.com/Modules/Forums/Board.aspx?mode=view&bbsidx=2138&uid=67&cat=38&reqpage=0&type=1 MapleStory Global's official answer to interworld transfer questions]</ref>, although there is limited functionality in transferring items between characters of the same world.

===New players===
[[Image:Welcomescreen.jpg|thumb|left|The MapleStory login screen.]]
New players are sent to [[MapleStory World#Maple Island|Maple Island]], a floating island specifically designed to be beginner-friendly. Unlike a collection of other MMORPGs, players in MapleStory can not choose a [[character class]] or job when they create the character. Rather, every character starts with the job ''Beginner'' until they meet the requirements to complete the first job advancement.

When a player creates a new character, he or she is able to spread 25 ability points amongst four different statistics: STR, DEX, INT, and LUK (Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Luck, respectively). Players can not manually choose where these points will be placed, as the distribution is randomly generated by a dice roll, to which an infinite number of rolls are possible. The minimum possible point level in a statistic is four and the maximum is thirteen.

===Leveling up===
"Leveling up", or just simply "leveling" means a character must acquire a certain amount of EXP to which their level-enhancing requirements are assigned to advance one level. At each level up, a player receives five ability points (AP) to be distributed among the stats of HP (health points), MP (mana points), STR, DEX, INT, and LUK at their own will. After undergoing any job advancement, the character gains one SP (skill point) and three SP per level after the first advancement; SP that are remaining prior to another job advancement are invalid after such advancement, sans the newly-acquired SP. Each SP can be used on various class-specific skills.

Maple story has a progressively difficult leveling program. After the first few early levels, only a few minutes or hours of gameplay are required for a level. The higher a character's level gets, the higher its required experience points for a level up. This makes it so that the higher level a character gets, the more minutes, hours, or even days it might take to gain one level. However, the speed that a character gains levels is determined by how much time a player spends training or on the game.

All characters in the game are ranked based on how much EXP they have gained or, equivalently, their level and percentage. When a player logs on, they can see how their character is ranked among others in the same world and among the other players at the same class as their character; it will also tell the characters' changes in ranking from the previous day.

===Ability points===
There are four main types of abilities, to which one or more type holds more significance over others, depending on character class. General effects of each stat do not depend on a character's class, however, damage will vary based on job and the equipped weapon. Most classes have one main stat, which they raise to increase their damage output, as well as one minor stat, which is raised to meet the requirements to equip weapons and armor and/or increase the specialities that come with some of the abilities. However, characters do not have to follow these general beliefs and may choose to raise other items at their will. For example, while warriors generally raise their STR and DEX, some may put more emphasis on their HP over the increased damage from STR and better accuracy and item-handling from DEX increases.

* '''Strength (STR)''' increases the maximum power of [[melee]] attacks. It increases the maximum damage for warriors. Warriors need at least 35 AP in STR to make their first job advancement.
* '''Dexterity (DEX)''' increases the accuracy, avoidability and minimum damage of all attacks, except magic. It increases the maximum damage for bowmen. Bowmen and thieves need at least 25 AP in DEX to make their first job advancement.
* '''Intelligence (INT)''' increases magic attack and magic defense. INT affects a magician greatly as their damage and accuracy is based on it, although INT isn't too useful for other classes. It also determines the amount of maximum MP increase upon leveling. Magicians need at least 20 AP in INT to make their first job advancement
* '''Luck (LUK)''' increases the avoidability of all characters, and decreases EXP loss when a character dies. It increases the maximum damage for thieves when using throwing stars and daggers that depend on LUK for attack.

===Skill points===
[[Image:MapleStory_powerstrike.jpg|thumb|150px|A Warrior using the skill "Power Strike", which is garnered from using skill points on the skill.]]
Every character class has specific skills in which to invest and their effects vary. Skills are either passive (applicable automatically) or active skills (manually used). Passive skills, such as a bowman's range-increasing "Eye of Amazon", take effect as long as SP has been placed in the skill. The gamut of passive skill effects enhance the character and are not prone to negatively affecting other user specialities. Active skills can be used when necessary. They always require MP and, in some cases, HP or even special items. There are two types of active skills: attack skills and enhancement skills. Attack skills tend to do more damage and can be used as the main attacking method. Enhancement skills add temporary enhancements to the character, such as a thief's enemy-avoiding "Dark Sight", and/or the character's party, such as a cleric's "Bless". Most skills become more effective as SP is added, though some progressions require the use of more required MP; other skills cost less MP as SP is added to the skill.

===Dying===
When a character's HP on the red health bar reaches zero, a character [[Death|dies]]. This is depicted by a [[Headstone|tombstone]] falling from the top of the screen, and the character transmuting to a floating, [[ghost]]-like body. The character is incapable of moving and going through portals at this stage. Upon dying, a window appears notifying the character of their death. If the character presses the button on this window, they are transported to the nearest town and revived with fifty HP. The amount of MP after a character's death does not change.

Beginners lose no EXP when they die, which suggests that dying is a quick and free way of getting to the nearest town. However, once a beginner makes their first job advancement, each death will cost them a percentage of EXP based upon the amount of LUK they have. Dying in towns or other "safe" areas will always result in an EXP loss of 1% regardless of the character's LUK stat.

Items such as the Safety Charm (available from the Cash Shop) can prevent EXP loss when the character dies; however, the user loses the item after they die. The Safety Charm is available in all versions of the game and there is no limit to using the charm as long as the user buys more in the Cash Shop. Other variations of the Safety Charm are the Box of Chocolates and Easter Charm, which were both released for Global MapleStory events.

A character cannot fall below zero percent EXP, rendering leveling only ascendable. If a character dies, the character can still speak, and can stay in this stage for a limited time, but instead of the usual speech bubbles, a "thought bubble" is subsituted. A character may still use emoticons when dead.

==Character classes==

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{{main|MapleStory character classes}}
All characters begin the game as a "Beginner". Beginners are allowed AP, but are incapable of gaining SP when leveling up. At either level eight or ten, depending on desired class, the player can willingly choose to acquire a new class as a "Warrior" (level ten), "Magician" (level eight), "Archer" (level ten) or "Rogue" (level ten) and gain the ability to acquire SP and skills. These are only applicable if the character has the minimum amount of AP that the advancement requires.

Once a player reaches level thirty (30), they are able to complete the second job advancement according to their current job. Unlike the first job advancement, a quest is required to be completed prior to advancing. After they make the advancement, they receive a new set of applicable skills according to their respective job advancement.

At level seventy (70), characters can once again change their job at the Mystics' Hut in El Nath of Ossyria. Unlike previous job advancements, the player is not given the option to choose their third job, being only able to progress their current job into a new-named one with new skill sets.

At level one hundred twenty (120), the character can once again change classes. However, fourth job advancements have not yet been implemented in any versions of the game<ref>[http://www.mapleglobal.com/Modules/Forums/Board.aspx?mode=view&bbsidx=2138&uid=63&cat=38&reqpage=0&type=1 MapleStory Global's answer to fourth job advancement inquiries] ''Note that the third job advancement has been implented since this page was last updated.''</ref>.

==Monsters==

:''List of Monsters:'' [[wikibooks:MapleStory/Monsters|Monster List]]

===Benefit===
[[Image:Curseeye.PNG|left|frame|Two "curse eyes", which are one of over a hundred different MapleStory monsters. <ref>[http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MapleStory/Monsters Monster List] ''Monster sum derived from applied arithmetic using the list.''</ref>]]
Killing monsters gives the player experience, money, and sometimes items. The experience is automatically added to the players total experience, whearas the money and items are dropped at the location of the monsters' death. Dropped items could be leftovers from the monsters (a piece of the monster), ores, equipment, quest items, usable drops and, during certain periods of time, "set-up" items. Stronger monsters, that is, those with a higher level than another compared monster, give more experience when killed, drop larger sums of money and tend to drop better items in terms of their use and selling abilities.

The monsters residing on the beginner island, Maple Island, are known for being suited best to characters below level ten. The second continent, Victoria Island, has monsters suited to much higher levels. The final continent, Ossyria, harbors the strongest monsters in the game, making it a prime location for high leveled characters to train.

===Strengths & Weaknesses===
[[Image:Mushmom.png|right|thumb|"Mushmom", an openly accessible boss monster, is noted for its high weapon and magic defence.]]
Each monster has a defence rating against physical attacks and another rating against magical attacks. For example, a "Sentinel" is substantially armored over other monsters in its level range against weapon attacks, making it hard for most characters near its level, minus select mages, to obtain a sufficient attack upon. Magicians, however, are less adept at killing monsters with magic defense including "Luster Pixies", which are less vulnerable to magic attacks. Some monsters have elemental strengths and weaknesses making them more or less susceptible to specific elemental attacks. For example, "Fire Boars" are weak against ice-elemental attacks, yet strong against fire-elemental attacks.

===Monster Skills===
Some monsters have skills which they use on characters in a certain range when they are attacked. A partial list of these skills include: Sealing, which locks players' skills so that they can not use them, Darkness, which decreases accuracy, Weakness, which disables jumping ability, and a curse that halves experience. However, there are potions and a Priest skill that can dispel these effects. Some monsters also have skills to raise their own attributes or of the monsters around them. For example, "Stone Golems" and "Lunar Pixies" can increase their weapon defense and "fairies" can increase defense of other nearby monsters. The attributes raised by a skill evantually wears out. Monsters like "Lupins" and "Luster Pixies", when attacked, will attack back with a physical attack, like the "Lupin's Banana", or a magic attack, like the "Luster Pixies"' Magic Attack. Some monsters will attack without provocation; until a recent patch, the "Nependeath" would attack anything in range. More powerful monsters like the "Mushmom" and "King Slime" usually will have a very powerful area attack that can damage anything in its range.

===Boss Monsters===
[[Image:Zakum1.gif|left|thumb|"Zakum", a boss monster found in the "Zakum Party Quest".]]
There are several boss monsters which can be found throughout the MapleStory world. Each boss is located in its own respective map, and spawn less frequently than normal monsters. For example; "Mushmom" spawns at it's own map every 40 minutes to an hour. Being even the weakest of boss monsters, Mushmom is considerably hard to kill and is usually only attempted by level fourty and above characters. "Zakum", a boss monster found only in a level fifty and above accompaniment, attacks with fire, ice, lightning, and poison-based attacks. It has eight arms, each with an individual amount of life, which players must kill before attacking its main body. Zakum is stereotyped by some players as being the toughest monster in the game. Although not the highest level, Zakum can be extremely difficult to defeat, usually requiring two or more parties of high-leveled characters working together for an extended period of time. The Zakum party quest has been known to last for one or more hours.

==Quests==
[[Image:JaneDoe.JPG|thumb|left|An NPC who gives the player a quest, should the player be a high enough level.]]
Quests are varying tasks that players may perform for [[non-player character|NPC]]s for rewards and experience. There are over a hundred possible quests<ref name="msquests">[http://www.maplesea.com/info/quests.aspx MapleStory SEA Info - Quests] retrieved May 14, 2006</ref>, each with varying prerequisites; most quests require the player to be at or more than a certain level limit and/or the player to have a specific character class, minimum fame data point or to have completed another certain quest<ref name="msquests" />. For example, the quest "Building Blackbull's New House" requires the player to have a minimum of level thirty, ten fame and the completion of "Fixing Blackbull's House", another quest. Most available quests require the player to retrieve a certain amount of spoils attained from monsters or they must traverse through obstacle courses. Different rewards, such as experience or unique items, can be received by the player after completing certain quests<ref name="msquests" />. Some quests can be repeated, although the reward(s) and given EXP will differentiate from those attained during its first completion. Unlike some [[MMORPG]]s, it's not possible to escape the [[Grind (gaming)|grind]] by completing quests.

===Accompaniments/Party Quests===
[[Image:Maplestory_partyquest_barrels1.jpg|thumb|right|Players attempting to find the correct barrel combination in the Kerning City accompaniment. This type of activity is prevalent in most accompaniments.]]
Accompaniments are a special type of quest where a party of players work together to beat several challenges. Although officially called "Accompaniments", it is commonly refered to as "Party Quest(s)" interchangeably. Each accompaniment has its own level limits which every character in the party must be within to enter the accompaniment.

The first Accompaniment is in Kerning City. A party of four, ranging from levels 21 to 30, goes through five stages in under thirty minutes by solving puzzles and killing monsters. At the end, a prize is given to each participant; these range from ores, equipment, scrolls or potions. Only one party can be inside the party quest at any given time on one channel.

The second Accompaniment is located in Ludibrium. There are nine stages to this quest, requiring a party of exactly six, ranging from levels 35 to 50. The skills specific character classes can have, such as Haste, Heal, Dark Sight, and Teleport, are eminently used to help pass some of the stages. There is a time limit of one hour for this Accompaniment. Prizes consist of potions, ores, equipment or summoning bags.

Another party quest, the Zakum Party Quest, is for characters level fifty and above. Multiple parties can enter this quest at the same time and multiple parties can finish it together. There are three stages that can be completed before ultimating in a boss battle with Zakum. Statistically, more experience is gained from this accompaniment than others.

===Jump quests===
Jump quests are a unique type of quest in which a character starts at one part of a map and uses timed jumps to get from one to another specific platform. The player attempts to avoid enemies and obstacles that can knock them off of the platform. Jump quests typically require precision timing and steady patience, although the reaped rewards are reattainable and monetarily valuable.

==MapleStory world==

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[[Image:Victoria Isnad.jpg|thumb|right|Map of Victoria Island]]
There are three main continents common to all versions in the MapleStory World: [[MapleStory World#Maple Island|Maple Island]], [[MapleStory World#Victoria Island|Victoria Island]] and [[MapleStory World#Ossyria Island|Ossyria]]. There are also two subcontinents common to all versions in the MapleStory world: Florina Island and Ludibrium. Although Ludibrium is a subcontinent of Ossyria, some players consider Ludibrium to be a continent as well.

Solely in the JapanMS version, there is an additional continent called [[MapleStory World#Jipang|Jipang]], based on Japanese culture; similarly, Fairy Tale Village in KoreaMS is based on the Korean culture. Peach Blossom Island is available only in ChinaMS, TaiwanMS, and MapleSEA, where couples take part in traditional Chinese marriages (by purchasing an amount of Cash Shop items).

In addition, there are also event towns. [[MapleStory World#Happyville|Happyville]] is only available during the Christmas period.
[[MapleStory World#Premium Road|Premium Road]] has been made available to KoreaMS, JapanMS, and ThailandMS; it can be accessed only if the player is connected from a real-life [[Internet Cafe]] which has previously made contracts with the programming staff of its local MapleStory version.

* Main Continents: Maple Island, Victoria Island, Ossyria Island, Jipang (JapanMS exclusive), Dongfang (ChinaMS exclusive), and Formosa (TaiwanMS exclusive).
* Sub-Continents: Florina Island, Ludibrium, Fairy Tale Village, Peach Blossom Island and Aqua Road.
* Event Towns: Happyville.
* Internet Cafe: Premium Road.

===Free market===
The Free Market is a place set aside for people who wish to sell their items without clogging up a certain town. They can either use regular chat to advertise their item, or they can set up their own miniature shop where a maximum of 3 people are allowed in at once. In order to do the latter, players will have to purchase a special permit available only through the Cash Shop. The regular store permit can hold 16 items while the special limited edition that has recently come out can hold twice as much.

Even while on another island, such as Ossyria, one may still make contact with people in Victoria Island through the Free Market. One can communicate and trade with someone entering the Free Market from any town. However, one cannot use the free market to travel between towns. There are entrances to the Free Market in Henesys, Perion, El Nath, Aquarium, Ludibrium, Omega Sector, Aqua Road, and Shouwa Town.

==Items==
There are five different item categories in the game: Equipment, Use, Set-Up, Etc., and Cash. In the inventory window, each category has its own section, each of which is only able to contain a limited amount of items; however, extra inventory space can be purchased in the Cash Shop. Extra inventory space is also awarded after each job advancement.

The various types of equipments are clothing, accessories, and weapons; clothing and accessories adding defence, weapons adding attack. Most have a level, stat, and class requirement to be able to equip it. Additionally a rare few have a fame requirement. In addition to the basic attack or defence increase, items can also provide stat bonuses. Normally, only Magician items and the all-class earrings provide Magic Defense; equipment for Warriors, Rogues, and Archers usually provide Weapon Defense only. Some equipments also give extra HP, MP, Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, Speed, Jump, Accuracy, Avoidability, and/or Luck stats.

Most equipments have specific "average" stats which the item always has when it is crafted by an NPC or bought from a store. When equipments are dropped by monsters, the stats have a chance to differ from the average. Items with stats closer to the average are more common than ones with much more or less of a certain stat.

Equipments can be upgraded by using item upgrade scrolls. These scrolls give stat bonuses to equipments. The scrolls have a certain percentage of success, and the lower the success percentage, the higher the stat gains provided by the scrolls are. Each item initially has a number of empty slots. Every attempt to upgrade an item will use one slot, whether or not the scroll succeeded. Most equipments have seven slots. Earrings and most shoes have five slots. Overalls have ten slots.

Use items consist of consumable items, such as potions, pills, food (which serves the same purpose as potions), upgrade scrolls, town scrolls (teleports the user back to the nearest town or a specified town), arrows (only usable with bows/crossbows), and throwing stars (only usable with claws). Set-Up items are mainly decorative special items for events such as Christmas or special quests. They usually serve no purpose after the special event is over. Etc. items are mainly monster leftovers, ores, materials and quest items. Ores and materials are used for forging items. Cash items are the items bought in the Cash Shop. However, some Cash Shop items may appear in other sections of the inventory depending on their function.

===Cash Shop===
Since playing MapleStory is free, the developers of MapleStory introduced the '''Cash Shop''' to generate revenue. This is a virtual shop where players can buy items using real money. However, most items do not give actual gameplay bonuses to the character. The items sold in the Cash Shop include clothing items, haircut coupons, pets and much more.

For the most part, Cash Shop items are useless functionally and exist only for their aesthetic appeal. Other than equipment that players can wear, some other items from the Cash Shop can grant the players special abilities, such as negating the experience points lost from dying and giving players a 2x EXP gain bonus.
[[Image:Maple0667.jpg|thumb|right|A player tries on an outfit in a cash shop.]]
In MapleSEA, Gachapon tickets can be purchased in the Cash Shop. When used at designated Gachapon machines located around the Maple world, players can receive random items. This is a controversial item, since it seems to violate Wizet's philosophy to not allow Cash Shop items to significantly affect the gameplay of players who do not wish to purchase cash shop items. Opponents say this unbalances the game.

Pets, such as dogs can also be purchased from the Cash Shop. They can be equipped to pick up loose mesos and items that they pass. Pets - like most Cash Shop items - expire after a period of 90 days.

The Global Cash Shop markets items for two virtual currencies. One is Nexon Cash, or NX Cash. MapleStory Points are the other currency used in the Cash Shop. NX Cash is purchased outside of MapleStory through the MapleStory web site. MapleStory Points, however, can be earned through special events. [[PayPal]] is the only accepted payment method for MapleStory Global, although Wizet has stated that they will soon implement direct credit card transactions. Additionally eChecks are currently not being accepted.

In MapleSEA's case, in addition to credit card payment (through PayPal), it has also released Prepaid cards that are sold at a fixed price of [[Singapore dollar|SGD]] $10.50 [Tax inclusive](approximately [[United States dollar|USD]] $6.30) per 10,000 A-Cash (which can be used to convert into MapleCash) or [[Malaysian Ringgit|RM]] 24 (approximately USD $6.40) for 24,000 MOLePoints (which can be used to purchase 10,000 A-Cash).

==Unique gameplay features==
Although a purely two-dimensional game lacking certain features found in other MMORPGs, MapleStory has many features which set it apart from other online games. For example, by pressing certain keys, a player can have their character temporarily display various emotions viewable by other players; some emotions showcase a confused or angry expression, while others show happiness or sadness.

===Fame===
Fame is one of the statistics on a character's character sheet and is sometimes claimed to be an indicator of a player's popularity among others in the game. Once characters are at least level fifteen, they are able to raise or lower the fame of any character excluding themselves by one point per day. A character's fame can not be raised or lowered by the same person more than once every thirty days. Fame has no significant effect in MapleStory, except for certain quest prerequisites and a select amount of high level pieces of equipment.

===Minigames===
There are three [[minigame]]s that can be played with up to three MapleStory characters. They are called Omok, Match Cards, and Pachinko. Playing minigames costs 100 mesos per game.

Omok is a remake of a Japanese game named "[[Gomoku]]". Omok and Gomuku are akin to [[tic-tac-toe]], except players must instead get five "stones" in a row, rather than only three. Players can not make two unblocked rows of three stones in one move.

Match Cards is also known as the game "[[Concentration (game)|Concentration]]". Match cards games can be opened in grids of 3x4, 4x5, and 5x6 cards. The flip side of the cards contain images of MapleStory monsters, which players take turn matching.

Pachinko is a mini-game exclusive to jMS. Cash Shop-purcashed Pachinko balls (coins) are required in order to play. The player must be in a Pachinko store (located in Kerning City, Shouwa Town, and Ludibrium) to play the game. In order to win, one needs to try to get the Pachinko balls in a mushroom hole below a slot. Once it is in, the slot will start. Sometimes an angel or a lady will try to help the player move the monsters in the slot. There are also winnable prizes if the player obtained a set amount of balls.

===Events===
During certain days, the GMs (Game Masters) host special events in which any user is capable of participating, given they are online and at a certain map at a certain time. Participants are rewarded with items such as an Event Trophy and a Scroll of Secrets (which requires the player to decode it through an NPC (Non-Playable Character) to get a Magic Box and then open it at another NPC to receive a random prize).

;Coconut Harvest
Participants are divided into two teams, Team Maple and Team Story. The team which harvests the most coconuts in the set amount of time wins.

;Find the Jewel
The goal of this event is to find maps hidden in various rooms to find a map. Players return the map to Vikan to complete it.

;MapleStory Physical Fitness Challenge (a.k.a. Hyperdash)
A jump quest with four levels; players must finish the quest within 15 minutes to complete the event without using haste or teleport.

;OX Quiz and Minigame Challenge
The OX Quiz consists of correctly answering question asked by a GM. Once players answers them correctly, they are teleported to the Minigame Challenge room, where they compete in minigames. The winner goes on to the next level of the tournament, competing against players in (presumably) steadily increasing skill.

;Ola Ola
Ola Ola takes place in a maze set in a forest with three maps. The goal of this event is to reach the end within 4 minutes. At the top of each map there are a series of portals which may bring players to the next map, bring them back to the beginning of the current map, or fail to do anything whatsoever. In Ola Ola, the player is not able to jump, haste, teleport, et cetera.

;Snowball
Players are divided into two teams, Team Maple and Team Story. The goal is to push a giant snowball to the end of the stage before the other team by attacking it. The players can also attack a snowman which prevents the other team from pushing the snowball.

Other events include Christmas tree events, wedding events, drawing events and quest events; for example, players might be required to find an item and return it to the event quest NPC or GM.

==Servers and registration==
{{MapleStory Versions}}

*The Korean version was the first to be created, ergo it has the most features as of yet; other versions are at different stages of development and most are not as advanced in content as Korea's.
*Though the Korean, Thai, and Global versions share the same world names, they are different and independent of each other.
*[[IP blocking]] is used between some versions of the game, mainly due to international regard <ref>[http://www.mapleglobal.com/Modules/Forums/Board.aspx?mode=view&bbsidx=2138&uid=12&cat=35&reqpage=0&type=1 MapleStory Global's reason for IP blocking]</ref>.

==Controls==
[[Image:MSControls.jpg|thumb|300px|right|The original set of controls in MapleStory Global (see link for clearer picture).]]
The [[Computer_keyboard#Usage|Control]]s for the game are operated using a [[computer keyboard]] and [[mouse (computing)|mouse]] or similar. Some of the controls are capable of being rearranged by the user, to adapt to their preference. As an example, the standard setting to use the attack command is with the "control" or "ctrl" button, although it differentiates for the users that rearranged that setting. However, certain controls are fixed, and cannot be modified by the player. For example, the movement keys are fixed as the directional arrows. This has led to some complaint from players who are used to the more traditional, or at least comfortable, WASD configuration for movement.

==Game issues==
{{main|MapleStory Game Issues}}

As with most MMORPGs, there are bugs in the game, and people who exploit them. There are also many third party programs created to simplify gameplay for players, which the GMs believe to make the game unfair for other players. Thus, the use of third party programs is against the rules, and users who take advantage of them are frequently banned from the game. To combat these programs, various security measures have been implemented such as [[GameGuard]] and a PIN requirement.

[[Scamming]] is also common. Scammers use a variety of methods to mislead other players into giving them mesos, items, or NX Cash.

One may find an occasional misspelled word in the game's text.

==Nintendo DS version==

The [[Nintendo DS]] version of the game is currently under development, with the Korean release date set for late 2006 or early 2007. MapleStory DS will be the second Nintendo DS game developed by a Korean company. <ref>http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=200605110210 ''MapleStory on the Nintendo DS''</ref> <ref>http://english.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=200605120008 ''English Version of MapleStory on Nintendo DS ''</ref>

==Notes==

* Most information obtained from those given during the course of gameplay.
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==External links==
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;Official websites
* [http://www.maplestory.com/ ''MapleStory'' portal] - Official MapleStory website
* [http://www.mapleglobal.com/ Global ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory Global (Requires Internet Explorer)
* [http://mxd.sdo.com/web2005/ Chinese ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory China
* [http://maplestory.nexon.co.jp/ Japanese ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory Japan
* [http://www.mapleSEA.com/ South East Asian ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory South East Asia/SEA
* [http://maplestory.nexon.com/ South Korean ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory South Korea (Requires Internet Explorer)
* [http://maplestoryt.nexon.com/ South Korean ''MapleStory'' TESTER site] - MapleStory South Korea Tester (Requires Internet Explorer)
* [http://www.maplestory.com.tw/ Taiwanese ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory Taiwan
* [http://maple.asiasoft.co.th/index.html Thai ''MapleStory'' site] - MapleStory Thailand
* [http://www.wizet.co.kr/ Official ''MapleStory'' Developer site] - Wizet Corp., Ltd. Korean
* [http://www.wizet.com/japanese/index.html Official ''MapleStory'' Developer site] - Wizet Corp., Ltd. Japanese

;MapleStory fansites

* [http://www.sleepywood.net/ Sleepywood] - Message board with an extensive trading forum [GlobalMS].
* [http://www.happymapling.net/ Happy Mapling] - Library of game information and a helpful community [GlobalMS].
* [http://sauna.gibbed.us/ Sauna] - Library of information taken directly from game client [GlobalMS].

* [http://www.hidden-street.net/ Hidden Street] - Library of game information [GlobalMS & MapleSEA].
* [http://www.basilmarket.com/ BasilMarket] - Item auctioning website and forums [GlobalMS & MapleSEA].
* [http://www.mapletip.com Mapletip] - Library of information with unique featues such as a [http://www.mapletip.com/maplewiki/index.php/Main_Page MapleWiki][GlobalMS & MapleSEA].
* [http://maplestory.netgamers.jp/ A Drop of Maple] - Library of game information [JapanMS].
* [http://omega.gibbed.us/ Omega Sector] - Library of information taken directly from the game client [JapanMS].
* [http://members2.tsukaeru.net/orz-orz/ Extreme] - Library of game information & MS background music [JapanMS].
* [http://www.toontowncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=88 Toontowncentral Forums - MS Section] - Active MapleStory community with guides.
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Maple (software)

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see also [[Maple (disambiguation)]]

[[Image:Maple95_screenshot.png|right|thumbnail|300px|Maple 9.5 interface]]
'''Maple''' is a general-purpose commercial [[computer algebra system]]. It was first developed in [[1981]] by the Symbolic Computation Group at the [[University of Waterloo]] in [[Waterloo, Ontario]], [[Canada]].

Since [[1988]], it has been developed and sold commercially by '''[[Waterloo Maple|Waterloo Maple Inc.]]''' (also known as '''Maplesoft'''), a [[Canada|Canadian]] company also based in Waterloo, Ontario. The current version is Maple 10.

== Introduction ==
Maple is an [[interpreted language|interpreted]], [[datatype|dynamically typed]] programming language. As is usual with computer algebra systems, symbolic expressions are stored in memory as [[directed acyclic graph]]s. This language is supported by the mathematical editor [[Scientific Notebook]] by [[MacKichan Software]].

Since Maple 6 the language has permitted variables of lexical [[scope (programming)|scope]].

== Example Maple code ==

The following code computes an exact solution to the linear ordinary differential equation

:<math>\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}(x) - 3 y(x) = x</math>

subject to initial conditions:

:<math>y(0) = 0 ,\quad \left. \frac{dy}{dx} \right|_{y=0} = 2</math>

dsolve( {diff(y(x),x,x) - 3*y(x) = x, y(0)=0, D(y)(0)=2}, y(x) );

== Past releases ==
* Maple 10: [[May 10]], [[2005]]
* Maple 9.5: [[April 15]], [[2004]]
* Maple 9: [[June 30]], [[2003]]
* Maple 8: [[April 16]], [[2002]]
* Maple 7: [[July 1]], [[2001]]
* Maple 6: [[December 6]], [[1999]]
* Maple V R5: [[November 1]], [[1997]]
* Maple V R4: January, [[1996]]
* Maple V R3: [[March 15]], [[1994]]
* Maple V R2: November [[1992]]
* Maple V: August, [[1990]]
* Maple 4.3: March, [[1989]]
* Maple 4.2: December, [[1987]]
* Maple 4.1: May, [[1987]]
* Maple 4.0: April, [[1986]]
* Maple 3.3: March, [[1985]] (first publicly available version)
* Maple 3.2: April, [[1984]]
* Maple 3.1: October, [[1983]]
* Maple 3.0: May, [[1983]]
* Maple 2.2: December, [[1982]]
* Maple 2.15: August, [[1982]]
* Maple 2.1: June, [[1982]]
* Maple 2.0: May, [[1982]]
* Maple 1.1: January, [[1982]]
* Maple 1.0: January, [[1982]]

Since 1994, [[MathCad]] has included a Maple-derived algebra engine (MKM, aka Mathsoft Kernel Maple).

== Versions available ==

Maplesoft sells both student and professional editions of Maple, with a substantial difference in price (US$99 compared to US$1,995.00, respectively).

Recent student editions (from version 6 onwards) have not placed computational limitations but rather come with less printed documentation. This is similar to the difference between [[Mathematica]]'s student and professional editions.

In releases prior to version 6, the student edition has had the following computational limitations: 
*A maximum of 100 in floating point digits for computations and display. 
*A maximum size of 8000 (in machine words or objects contained) for any algebraic object. 
*A maximum of 3 dimensions for arrays.

== See also ==
{{Wikibookspage|Maple}}
*[[MaplePrimes]]
*[[Waterloo Maple]] - the creator & distributor of Maple
*'''Open Source/Freeware Competitors:'''
**[[Axiom computer algebra system|Axiom]] (BSD license), [[Aldor]]
**[[Maxima]] ([[GPL]]).
**[[Eigenmath|EigenMath]] ([[freeware]])
*'''Commercial Competitors:'''
**[[Magma computer algebra system|MAGMA]] - available from the [[University of Sydney]]
**[[MATLAB]] - available from [[MathWorks]]
**[[Mathematica]] from [[Wolfram Research]]
**[[MuPAD]] - available from [[SciFace Software GmbH]]

==External links==

* [http://www.maplesoft.com/ Maplesoft, division of Waterloo Maple, Inc.] home website

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Multipurpose Applied Physics Lattice Experiment

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Sathyan Bhrama:

:see also [[Maple (disambiguation)]]
''See also [[Maple computer algebra system]]''.
The '''MAPLE''' (Multipurpose Applied Physics Lattice Experiment) dedicated isotope-production facility is a current project jointly undertaken by [[Atomic Energy of Canada Limited|AECL]] and [[MDS Inc.|MDS Nordion]]. When completed the facility will include two identical reactors, as well as the necessary isotope-processing facilities. When operational, MAPLE will be capable of producing the lion's share of the world's medical isotopes, especially Molybdenum-99, medical Cobalt-60, and Iodine-131 and -125.

==History==
===Background===
With the completion of the [[NRX]] reactor in [[1947]], [[AECL]]'s [[Chalk River Laboratories]] possessed the world's most powerful research reactor. While the large neutron fluxes available in the reactor led to advances in such fields as [[condensed matter physics]] and neutron spectroscopy, many experiments were carried out involving the production of new [[isotopes]]. The field of [[nuclear medicine]] developed when it was realized that some of these artificially created isotopes could be used to diagnose and treat many diseases, especially cancers.

Pioneering medical work done in the late 40's and early 50's established [[Cobalt|Cobalt-60]] as a useful isotope, as the relatively high-energy [[gamma rays]] produced when it undergoes [[beta decay]] are able to penetrate the skin of the patient, and deliver a greater portion of the dose directly to the tumor. The high neutron efficiency of the NRX's [[heavy water]]-moderated design, coupled with the high neutron flux of the reactor, made it relatively inexpensive for AECL to produce medical-grade Cobalt 60. For example, the cost of the entire unit used to perform the first Cobalt-60 treatment was about $50,000. By way of contrast, it would cost $50,000,000 just to produce enough [[radium]] (which had been previously used as a therapy source) to perform the same procedure. [http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-75-346-1855-20&wm6=1 1]

With this promising start, AECL came to be a major world supplier of medical isotopes, using both the [[NRX]] reactor, and the [[NRU]] reactor, which came on-line in [[1957]]. However, as these reactors began to age, it became clear that a new facility would be needed to continue the production of medical isotopes.

===Beginnings===
In the late 80's, AECL began to acknowledge that continued isotope production would require the construction of a new reactor to replace capacity lost by the closing of the [[NRX]] in [[1992]], and the planned closing of the [[NRU]] early in the new millennium. As a result, it was decided to build a new facility dedicated to the production of medical isotopes on-site at Chalk River Laboratories. As the result of an understanding between AECL and it's daughter company, MDS Nordion, that such a facility was required when Nordion was spun-off in [[1991]], design work for the reactor was undertaken during the first half of the decade.

The design that resulted involved a facility with two identical reactors, each capable of supplying 100% of the world's medical isotope demand. The second reactor would function primarily as a back-up, to ensure that the supply of isotopes would not be interrupted by maintenance, or unplanned shutdowns. This is made necessary by the nature of medical isotopes; many have short [[half-lives]], and must be used within a few days of production. With treatments being constantly carried out around the globe, an uninterruptible supply was essential.

A formal agreement was signed to begin the project in August, [[1996]]. Following a year-long environmental assessment, construction began in December, [[1997]]. [http://anes.fiu.edu/Pro/s4ma1.pdf 2]

There has been some local opposition to the use of highly-enriched uranium ([[HEU]]) in the reactor, [http://www.ccnr.org/maple_heu.html 3], as well as from agencies in the United States who fear that the uranium could be stolen by terrorists and used to fabricate a bomb. [http://www.nci.org/c/c21999.htm 4]

===Current status===
Construction of the two reactors was completed by May, 2000. An operational license was granted in August, 1999 for the MAPLE I reactor, and extended to include the MAPLE II reactor in June, 2000. Commissioning testing was begun immediately, with the MAPLE I achieving its first sustained reaction in February, 2000, and MAPLE II following in October, 2003. However, during testing, it was noted that some of the emergency shut-off rods in the MAPLE I reactor could fail to deploy in certain demanding situations. This failure was ascribed to workmanship and design issues, and related to fine metal particles accumulating in the control rod's housing and interfering with their free movement. As a result, the entire project has been on hold since July, 2000, while the control-rod system has been redesigned to have a greater operating tolerance, and the new system installed and re-tested. In addition to the now four-year-long delay in the start of commercial production, the project has significantly overrun it's original cost. AECL and MDS Nordion are currently in mediation over the future of the project, especially the sharing of the increased costs.

==External links==
*[http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-75-346-1855-20&wm6=1 Article on early cobalt therapy]

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Maple, Wisconsin

2006-05-17T07:44:59Z

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see also [[Maple (disambiguation)]]

'''Maple''' is a town located in [[Douglas County, Wisconsin]]. As of the 2000 census, the town had a total population of 649.

==Geography==
[[Image:WIMap-doton-Maple.png|right|Location of Maple, Wisconsin]]According to the [[United States Census Bureau]], the town has a total area of 83.1 [[square kilometer|km²]] (32.1 [[square mile|mi²]]). 83.1 km² (32.1 mi²) of it is land and none of the area is covered with water.

==Demographics==
As of the [[census]][[Geographic references#2|2]] of 2000, there were 649 people, 277 households, and 193 families residing in the town. The [[population density]] was 7.8/km² (20.2/mi²). There were 303 housing units at an average density of 3.6/km² (9.4/mi²). The racial makeup of the town was 96.76% [[White (U.S. Census)|White]], 0.00% [[African American (U.S. Census)|African American]], 2.00% [[Native American (U.S. Census)|Native American]], 0.46% [[Asian (U.S. Census)|Asian]], 0.00% [[Pacific Islander (U.S. Census)|Pacific Islander]], 0.00% from [[Race (U.S. Census)|other races]], and 0.77% from two or more races. 0.77% of the population were [[Hispanic (U.S. Census)|Hispanic]] or [[Latino (U.S. Census)|Latino]] of any race.

There were 277 households out of which 31.0% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 58.5% were [[Marriage|married couples]] living together, 5.1% had a female householder with no husband present, and 30.3% were non-families. 25.6% of all households were made up of individuals and 10.1% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.34 and the average family size was 2.81.

In the town the population was spread out with 23.6% under the age of 18, 4.8% from 18 to 24, 30.2% from 25 to 44, 27.6% from 45 to 64, and 13.9% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 39 years. For every 100 females there were 105.4 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 110.2 males.

The median income for a household in the town was $35,781, and the median income for a family was $39,375. Males had a median income of $32,125 versus $24,375 for females. The [[per capita income]] for the town was $16,828. 4.7% of the population and 4.9% of families were below the [[poverty line]]. 5.8% of those under the age of 18 and 0.0% of those 65 and older were living below the poverty line.

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Maple (disambiguation)

2006-05-17T07:44:07Z

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'''Maple''' can refer to:

*[[Maple]] (''Acer''), a genus of trees and shrubs.

*[[Maple, Wisconsin]] is the name of a town in Wisconsin.

*[[MAPLE]] is the name of a dedicated isotope-production facility at [[Chalk River Laboratories]].

*The [[Maple computer algebra system]].

*Maple is also an abbreivation for [[MapleStory]].

*Maple could refer to the Maple chip [[MAPLE chip]]

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Tadeusz Boy-Żeleński

2006-05-17T07:37:41Z

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'''Tadeusz Żeleński''' (better known under his pseudonym '''Tadeusz Boy-Żeleński'''; [[1874]]-[[1941]]) was a [[Poland|Polish]] [[gynaecology|gynaecologist]], writer, poet, art critic, translator of French literary classics and journalist. One of the notable personalities behind the [[Young Poland]] movement, Boy was considered an [[enfant terrible]] of the Polish literature of the first half of [[20th century]].

==Biography==

Tadeusz Kamil Marcjan Żeleński of [[Ciołek Coat of Arms|Ciołek]] was born [[December 21]], [[1874]] in [[Warsaw]], to the family of Wanda née Grabowska and [[Władysław Żeleński]], a notable composer and musician. His cousin was [[Kazimierz Przerwa-Tetmajer]], another notable poet of the epoch. Since Warsaw was at that time under [[Russian Empire|Russian]] rule and education in Polish was forbidden, in [[1892]] Żeleński left for [[Kraków]] in [[Galicia (Central Europe)|Galicia]], where he was accepted at the Medical Faculty of [[Jagiellonian University]].

After finishing his studies in [[1900]], Żeleński started his medical practice as a pediatrician. In [[1906]] he started his own practice as a gynaecologist, which gave him economical freedom. The same year he co-organised the famous [[Zielony Balonik]] [[cabaret]], where he met other notable personalities of Polish culture, including his brother Edward, [[Jan August Kisielewski]], [[Stanisław Kuczborski]], [[Witold Noskowski]], [[Stanisław Sierosławski]], [[Rudolf Starzewski]], [[Edward Leszczyński]], [[Teofil Trzcińki]], [[Karol Frycz]], [[Ludwik Puget]], [[Kazimierz Sichulski]], [[Jan Skotnicki]], [[Feliks Jasieński]], and [[Zenon Pruszyński]].

In his sketches, poems, satirical songs, and short stories he wrote for the ''Zielony Balonik'', Boy-Żeleński openly critisized and mocked the conservative authorities, two-faced moralty of the burghers, but also the grandiloquent style of [[Młoda Polska]] and Kraków's [[bohemia]] in general. This earned him the nick-name of the enfant terrible of Polish literature.

At the outbreak of the [[World War I|Great War]], Żeleński was conscripted to the [[Austro-Hungarian Army]], where he served as a medic in railway troops. After the war he returned to Poland and, in [[1922]], he moved to Warsaw. He did not return to his medical practice and instead focused entirely on writing. Working for various dailies and magazines, Boy-Żeleński soon became one of the authorities of Polish liberal and democratic [[inteligentsia]]. He critisized the double-faced moralty of the clergy, promoted the secularization of public life and culture, and was one of the strongest proponents of the equality of women. He was one of the first known figures in Poland to support [[abortion]]. Also, Boy-Żeleński often fought against the Polish romantic tradition in his essays, which, in his views, was irrational and seriously flawed the way Polish society thought about their past.

In addition, Boy prepared the translation of more than 100 classics of [[French literature]], which ever since have been considered among the best translations of foreign literature to the [[Polish language]]. In [[1933]], Boy-Żeleński was admitted to the prestigious [[Polish Academy of Literature]].

After the outbreak of [[World War II]], Boy-Żeleński moved to Soviet-occupied [[Lwów]], where he stayed at his wife's brother-in-law. In Lwów, Boy joined the Soviet-led [[University of Lwów|University]] as the head of the Department of French Literature. Criticized by many for his collaboration with the occupants, he maintained contacts with many prominent proffessors and artists, who found themselves in the city after the [[Polish Defensive War]]. He also took part in creation the propaganda newspaper ''Czerwony Sztandar'' ([[Red Banner]]) and became one of the prominent members of the Society of Polish Writers.

After Nazi Germany broke the [[Nazi-Soviet Alliance]] and attacked the [[USSR]], Boy remained in Lwów. The city was captured in the night of [[July 4]], [[1941]], and he was arrested by the Ukrainian ''[[Nachtigall battalion]]'' and brought to Wulka hills, where he was murdered, together with 45 other professors in what became known as the [[Massacre of Lwów professors|massacre of Lwów professors]].

==See also==

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* [[Zielony Balonik]]

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2006-05-17T07:31:34Z

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