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==Zulfikar Ali Bhutto==
My friend there's no need to get [[Wikipedia:Consensus|Consensus]] on a section that is an opinion and does not represent a neutral point of view.
Read this:  
* "Benazir Bhutto publicly announced her '''belief''' that her father was "sent to the gallows".
* "Many political analysts and scientists '''widely suspected''' that the riots and coup against Bhutto were orchestrated with help of the Central Intelligence Agency and the United States Government because the United States '''allegedly''' feared Bhutto's socialist policies which were seen as sympathetic to the Soviet Union and had built a bridge that allowed the Soviet Union to be involved in Pakistan".
And the opnion of "Ramsey Clark":
"I [Ramsey Clark] do not believe in conspiracy theories in general, but the similarities in the staging of riots in Chile (where the CIA allegedly helped overthrow President Salvadore Allende) and in Pakistan are just too close, Bhutto was removed from power in Pakistan by force on 5 July, after the usual party on the 4th at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, with U.S. approval, if not more, by General Zia-ul-Haq".
For more info: [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Explanation of the neutral point of view|Explanation of the neutral point of view]] Thanks. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 09:44, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
:: Hey there. First of all, at Wikipedia, we [[WP:TRUTH|don't work on truth]] but rather on [[WP:V|verifiability]]. If there are sources backing an opinion or viewpoint, we report it. This is also in accordance with [[WP:WEIGHT|representing all viewpoints]] that exist on the subject. Something doesn't have to be true or false to be reported, if there are sources showing a certain position, our job is to report them with [[WP:NPOV|neutrality]] of course. It is well known that there were many conspiracy theories over Bhutto's death, so writing about them on his article is certainly relevant and appropriate. Especially when his own daughter [[Benazir Bhutto]] commented  that she believed her father was sent to the gallows by a "superpower", hence we have to incorporate her views too. We have many articles and sections on conspiracy theories, and not all of them necessarily have to be true. See [[Template:Conspiracy theories]] for example, there is a long list of them, and they include articles on deaths or assassinations of politicians. Cheers, '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 09:56, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
:My friends, its an allegation (Def: a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof) of "U.S being involved in the coup etc." you can't just blame the U.S in the article just because Benzair and Ramsery Clark accused them. Its irrelevant to add their opinions to respective articles. "do you have possible role of jews on [[September 11 attacks]]"?. There's plenty of "opinions"... [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 12:27, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
:: Again, it doesn't matter if it's an allegation. And it doesn't matter if they are [[WP:TRUTH|true or not]]. If there are sources saying such allegations have been made, then we ''report them as allegations''. Our job is not to decide whether the allegations being made are true or false. Our job is just to ''report'' them, with [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. You need to read up Wikipedia's [[WP:V|verifiability policies]], and especially this: [[Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth]]. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 12:56, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
:Please stop editing Wikipedia articles with the average Pakistani mind that everything in their country is being orchestrated by the U.S or Jews. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 14:12, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
::{{tps}} The above comment by Saad can be treated as an abuse and harassment. What do you mean by "average Pakistani mind". You are causing continuous disruption here. <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#000">[[User:Faizan|<span style="color:#fff;">Fai</span>]][[User Talk:Faizan|<span style="color:#0f0">zan</span>]]</span> 14:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
:Faizan please mind your business. If you wish to make a personal comment thn please do so at my talk page. Not in the middle of this. Average Pakistani mind meaning everyday pakis (I'm a paki myself) and I know this. Btw it wasn't a harassment but an advice (Sorry if you took as a personal attack M4rd). Faizan, You're welcomed to join this discussion btw. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 01:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Per [[WP:NPOV]]. We should not be giving [[undue weight]] to a [[fringe theory]]. If I may paraphrase Jimbo's famous e-mail of Sep 29, 2003 which is the key part of the NPOV policy: What do mainstream history texts say on the matter? What do the majority of prominent historians say on the matter? Is there significant debate one way or the other within mainstream historians on this point?
* If your viewpoint is held by the majority of historians, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts.
* If your viewpoint is held by a significant scientific minority, then it should be easy to name prominent historians, and the article should certainly address the controversy without taking sides.
* If your viewpoint is held by an extremely small minority, then _whether it's true or not, whether you can prove it or not_, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia, except perhaps in some ancilliary article. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 03:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:: Look, all I am saying is that since it's an allegation, it should be mentioned, even if it is a minority viewpoint. Regarding [[WP:WEIGHT]], you may be right, perhaps it is getting [[WP:DUE|more due coverage than it deserves]]. Perhaps giving the theory a whole section on the article violates [[WP:WEIGHT]], especially since it is just an allegation. To fix that, perhaps the section could be removed and the theory could be summarised in one or two sentences and added under the "Death sentence and appeal" section. However, it still needs to be mentioned one way or another, due to [[WP:V]]. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 04:35, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:Thank you M4rd...thanks for listening to the other side and trying to understand. Btw I'm going to make the changes...and revise it...and be sure to check it out here [[Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto]]. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 09:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
::There was a couple of sentences (political analyst and Sindh Assembly members) that were "referenced" to an article in NYTimes (CIA Sent Bhutto to the Gallows-1979) but no article of such kind exist as I have searched [http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/#/CIA+Sent+Bhutto+to+the+Gallows/from19790105to19790605/ here]. If you do find it, please feel free to add them again. [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 11:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
::: Not sure actually. [http://sixhour.com/cia_sent%20bhutto_to_the_gallows.htm This link] contains the transcript of the article you may be referring to. You can use that. Sources don't have to be online per [[WP:SOURCEACCESS]]. Perhaps because it's an old article, that's why there's no online version of it (if that is indeed the case). '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 11:54, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:Agree, sources do not have to be online but regarding transcript... if you look at the NYTimes history article search, it says -All Since 1851-. So the article doesn't exist and the site http://sixhour.com seems to be purely contributed to him (Defending him) and seem like a propaganda. Anyhow the article isn't there (History search). [[User:Saadkhan12345|Saadkhan12345]] ([[User talk:Saadkhan12345|talk]]) 15:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Butcher of Gujarat]]==
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A tag has been placed on [[:Butcher of Gujarat]], requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

<div class="center">''This is a slander''</div>

Under the [[WP:CSD#General criteria|criteria for speedy deletion]], articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. 

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Butcher of Gujarat|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request [[WP:RFUD|here]]. <!-- Template:Db-reason-notice --> [[User:Vatsan34|Vatsan34]] ([[User talk:Vatsan34|talk]]) 05:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
:Are you for real? --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:TopGun|<b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b>]] ([[User talk:TopGun|<b style="color:#000">talk</b>]])</span> 12:11, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
:: Indeed, it is a pretty valid redirect and has coverage in [[WP:RS|multiple sources]]. We already have a precedent with [[Butcher of La Cabana]], [[Butcher of Tehran]], [[Butcher of Prague]], [[Butcher of Kurdistan]], [[Butcher of Baghdad]], [[Butcher of Bengal]], and dozens of more. Clearly, this is one among many. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 12:32, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
:::[[WP:RNEUTRAL]]#3 in simple words. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:TopGun|<b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b>]] ([[User talk:TopGun|<b style="color:#000">talk</b>]])</span> 12:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Butcher of Gujarat]]==
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A tag has been placed on [[:Butcher of Gujarat]], requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|criteria for speedy deletion]], by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
*It is an "[[Wikipedia:Attack page|attack page]]", and appears to be primarily intended to disparage or threaten its subject. This includes [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biographies of living people]] that are unsourced and entirely negative in tone. (See [[WP:CSD#G10|section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion]].) Please do not make statements attacking people or groups of people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]]; [[Wikipedia:Attack page|attack pages]] and images '''are not tolerated''' by Wikipedia and are [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedily deleted]]. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. 

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Butcher of Gujarat|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]].  [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 18:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' Answering comments in the previous section, I would invoke [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]]. Now this redirect and the others like it MIGHT be able to stand. But for them to do so, they must be reliably sourced, in accordance with [[WP:BLP]], at the redirect itself, not just at the target article. However, the redirect is NOT sourced, therefore it must fall as a violation of [[WP:BLP]]. Two reliable sources that the pejorative is commonly associated with the subject should be sufficient. And since they have been listed, I will review those other redirects. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 18:20, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''' Clarifying, those redirects where the subject is still alive and [[WP:BLP]] still applies. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 18:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
== Butcher of Gujarat listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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== Categories ==

* Please needed categories at [[Khalid Irfan]], and if copy edit. Thanks.[[User:Justice007|Justice007]] ([[User talk:Justice007|talk]]) 13:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
: Done. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 22:35, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

== Mass moves... ==

Can you go through [[User_talk:Taimurijaz97#Stop_your_mass_move.21|his]] contributions when you get time.. he's been busy mass moving Pakistani universities to include city names ''indiscriminately''. I can't ask an admin to nuke his contributions because some of those renames were actually pretty good like Air University (Pakistan Air Force) and the likes to Air University, Islamabad etc (he failed to do this specific one due to page history though and ended up getting blocked for blanking it again and again)... but what's the point of moving [[Khyber Medical University]] to [[Khyber Medical University, Peshawar]] (it's the only topic, not just the primary topic... see also [[Harvard University]], no other exists and hence no need of city name). I tried to explained this to him on his talkpage, reverted some of the moves but the day he's already spent at it, I can't undo it all back :/ --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:TopGun|<b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b>]] ([[User talk:TopGun|<b style="color:#000">talk</b>]])</span> 21:42, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
:: Hey, I've been a bit busy in real life, so sorry about not getting back to you earlier. I'll have a look at this in a day or two. Regards, '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 07:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
:::No problem, check whenever you get free. Should've dropped this at [[WT:PAK]], but that place is kind of dead nowadays. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:TopGun|<b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b>]] ([[User talk:TopGun|<b style="color:#000">talk</b>]])</span> 08:10, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
:::: Lol. Only a handful of us running the project :p '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 08:15, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
::::: Just went through the user's contributions. It appears most of the mass moves have been corrected by {{u|Samee}}. The only good that seems to have come out of this exercise is a whole lot of [[WP:REDIRECT|redirects]] being created {{smiley}} '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 14:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::Lol, and a few users, including me, going nuts tracking the page moves and mass editing. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:TopGun|<b style="color:#060">lTopGunl</b>]] ([[User talk:TopGun|<b style="color:#000">talk</b>]])</span> 14:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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==Proposed Deletions==
Perhaps you could explain your edit summary on the articles that I had proposed for deletion and you removed the prod? [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 20:30, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
: Although it's not a requirement, but I've given edit summaries for each of the taggings, and the reason is as stated. Some of those PRODS were drive-by taggings, even when the articles were reasonably sourced, while one was too premature as the article seems to have been created quite recently and not given time to develop. Consider AfD if you wish. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 20:33, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
:: They have all been sent to AfD you are welcome to comment. Not amused by the drive-by tagging comment whatever that is it is not something I did perhaps you should consider an apology. [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 21:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
::: Since all the articles are in the same category and you prodded them in quick succession, it gave the impression of drive-by taggings, and that the tags were added without evaluating the articles or sources first. Regardless, no offence intended. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 07:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
:::: Thanks for that, I have had these articles watched for a while to see if they develop but on consideration that military training exercises are hardly encyclopedic or notable I decided it was time to propose deletion. We will just leave it to others to support or otherwise that view, regards. [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 19:15, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

== Merged ==

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==DYK nomination of Pakistan Armed Forces deployments==
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== ISI in India ==

Hi Mar4d, Regarding this revert [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inter-Services_Intelligence_activities_in_India&diff=next&oldid=642840015], please note that the other editor simultaneously opened a discussion on the talk page. It would be advisable to participate in the talk page discussion instead of starting an edit war. Best regards, [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 11:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

== AfD voting ==

Hi Mar4d, in AfDs the nominator is asked to refrain from repeating (the delete) with a bulleted comment per [[WP:AFDFORMAT]]. I note that you've done so in all three of the AfDs for this article [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian century (3rd nomination)]], so now as nom, I ask you to strike thru your !vote, thanks. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Widefox|Widefox]]</span>; [[User talk:Widefox|talk]]</span> 19:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

==Category:Saraiki cuisine==

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==Merger discussion for [[Truck art in Pakistan]]==
[[File:Merge-arrows.svg|50px|frameless|left]] An article that you have been involved in editing, [[Truck art in Pakistan]], has been '''proposed for [[Wikipedia:Merging|merging]]''' with another article. If you are interested, please participate in [[Talk:Jingle truck|the merger discussion]]. Thank you. [[User:Wikiisawesome|wia]] ([[User talk:Wikiisawesome|talk]]) 00:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC) <!-- Template:mergenote -->

== Nomination for merging of [[Template:Districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]] ==

[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|30px|alt=|link=]][[Template:Districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for merging]] with [[Template:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa topics]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 February 12#Template:Districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa|the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page]]. Thank you.  [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 18:53, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

== Rana Muhammad Iqbal Khan (politician) ==

Don't you think you should have discussed the move to [[Rana Muhammad Iqbal Khan (politician)]]? You are citing COMMONNAME but ignoring HONORIFIC. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 15:06, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
: Well, Rana is part of his official name. It's not a honorific, nor do I see where you get that perception from? '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 15:08, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
::Rana is a title, I thought. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 15:11, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
::: It's not a title. It's actually a [[Rajput]] clan name, and many people who belong to the clan keep it as their surname or as part of their given name. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 15:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

== Erdogan ==

Pleease stop addin the category that he is of Georgian origin. This is a [[WP:BLP]] violation. I almost reported you at [[WP:AIV]], but then decided that you might be reasonable enough to stop yourself. Please read [[WP:BLP]] carefully. Thank you for understanding.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 13:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
: I'm sorry, but I cannot find a ''policy'' based reason for your reverts. As the subject of the article has described himself as a Georgian and it is sourced and verified in that article (satsifying [[WP:BLP]]), there ought to be no reason for the removal of the category. If you have doubts over his Georgian ancestry, you can start a thread on the talk page and discuss the article content. However, please stop removing the category as it is based on what is said in the ''article''. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 13:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
:: The subject of the article said in 2006 he is Georgian and in 2014 that he is not. This is documented in the article. There is no additional evidence that he is Georgian. Per [[WP:BLP]], he should not be in the category. The topic at the talk page exists for a long time, you just did not bother to look there, did you?--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 13:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
::: ''The subject of the article said in 2006 he is Georgian and in 2014 that he is not''. That does not make any sense. Whether he said that in 2006 or 2014, why should that matter? ''This is documented in the article.'' - the part you are most likely referring to here ("They have said I am Georgian...they have said even uglier things - they have called me Armenian, but I am Turkish") is where he's referring to his [[citizenship]] or nationality, and obviously, he is a Turkish citizen, not a Georgian. He is of Georgian ''ancestry'' however and that is what the category is for. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 14:10, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: Again: There is absolutely no proof, whatsoever, of his Georgian ancestry, except for one occasion when he himself said this. This has not been independently confirmed by any source. And we also know that he can say any junk, and, in particular, that on the other occasion he said he does not have Georgian ancestry. Well, I have reported you anyway, let us see what uninvolved users have to say.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 14:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
::::: {{stalker}} Wikipedia does not have to ''prove'' anything, it's sufficient if [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say so. And they say that he claimed being Georgian on several occasions. <span style="font-family:'Candara',sans-serif;">[[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30C;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-shadow:#AAF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmiri</span>]] [[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80F;">TALK</sup>]]</span> 16:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::: And on other occasions he claimed not to be Georgian, as confirmed by RS. Your conclusion is?--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 16:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::: ''This has not been independently confirmed by any source.'' - Yes it has, by himself in fact, as you yourself are admitting above. ''And on other occasions he claimed not to be Georgian'' - could you please provide a source where he explicitly and exclusively confirms that he does not have Georgian ancestry? ''And we also know that he can say any junk, and, in particular, that on the other occasion he said he does not have Georgian ancestry.'' - if he has identified himself as Georgian, then this is what we categorise it as. You don't decide at a personal level what is "junk" or what is not, especially when the fact being debated over has been independently confirmed by the subject of the BLP himself. And again, ''where'' has he said he does not have Georgian ancestry? '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 16:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::: This is a very smart move - you will also not be able to p[rove he does not have a Nigerian ancestry. Anyway, I asked uninvolved users to look at the issue. I hope they will not forget your edit warring to restore BLP violations.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 16:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::: I don't seem to understand your rather aggressive approach regarding this matter. I don't have anything personal against you. I do believe we have [[User_talk:Ymblanter/2014#Russian-born_Soviet_migrant|interacted before]] and I appreciate some of the work you do here. My stand on this issue is the same regardless, a category can and should be added to an article if it is sourced in the article content, which is apparent here. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 16:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

==Category:United Arab Emirates Wikipedia administration==

'''[[:Category:United Arab Emirates Wikipedia administration]]''', which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 February 28#Category:United Arab Emirates Wikipedia administration|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. [[User:DexDor|DexDor]] ([[User talk:DexDor|talk]]) 07:12, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

== Emiratis in the United Kingdom ==

Hi. Good work on [[Emiratis in the United Kingdom]]. There are many more "X in the United Kingdom" articles that would benefit from your input, I you're keen! [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 18:11, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
:Hey there. Thanks, I'm always keen on working on migration-related articles, having created quite a few myself. If time allows me, I'd be willing to lend in a helping hand in more such articles. Regards, '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 18:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
::Great. Many of them, like [[Emiratis in the United Kingdom]], have very few regular editors, so have fallen into disrepair and are rather dated in their content. There are a few, such as [[Somalis in the United Kingdom]], which are the subject of lots of debate amongst a small number of editors, which would benefit from wider input. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 18:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
::I just made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Pakistanis&diff=649229718&oldid=649205295 some changes] to the [[British Pakistanis]] article, which came up in my watchlist when you edited it earlier. Let me know what you think. I've tried to replace population figures from a mis-mash of sources with those from the 2011 census. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 14:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2015 March newsletter ==

[[File:FRG-2a-Allied West Germany-1 Deutsche Mark (1948).jpg|right|thumb|One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1]]
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Freikorp}} owing most of his 622 points scored to a [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] on the 2001 film ''[[Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within]]'' which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant5|Godot13}} had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}} led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
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*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Rodw}} developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking ''[[Magna Carta]]'' there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
*And last but not least, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Godot13}} worked up a number of [[WP:FP|Featured Pictures]] during round 1, including the 1948 one [[Deutsche Mark]] ''(pictured right)'', receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

You may also wish to know that [[Wikipedia:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]] is running through the month of March. Head there for further details - they even have actual prizes!

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== WikiCup 2015 March newsletter ==

[[File:FRG-2a-Allied West Germany-1 Deutsche Mark (1948).jpg|right|thumb|One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1]]
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Freikorp}} owing most of his 622 points scored to a [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] on the 2001 film ''[[Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within]]'' which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant5|Godot13}} had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}} led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Cwmhiraeth}} took [[Bumblebee]], a [[Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded/Biology and health sciences|level-4 vital article]], to [[Wikipedia:Good articles|Good Article]];
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|AHeneen}} worked-up the [[Malaysia Airlines Flight 370]] article, also to Good Article status;
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Rodw}} developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking ''[[Magna Carta]]'' there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
*And last but not least, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Godot13}} worked up a number of [[WP:FP|Featured Pictures]] during round 1, including the 1948 one [[Deutsche Mark]] ''(pictured right)'', receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

You may also wish to know that [[Wikipedia:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]] is running through the month of March. Head there for further details - they even have actual prizes!

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]]. {{User4|Figureskatingfan}}, {{user4|Miyagawa}} and {{User4|Sturmvogel 66}}

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== Nomination of [[:Zaigham Khan]] for deletion ==
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Zaigham Khan]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].

The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zaigham Khan ]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.<!-- Template:afd-notice --> [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 20:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

==  Proposed deletion of Tariq Tafu ==
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The article [[Tariq Tafu]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern:
:'''Lacks sufficient indicia of notability.'''

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==Category:Pakistan studies journals==

'''[[:Category:Pakistan studies journals]]''', which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 March 12#Category:Pakistan studies journals|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. [[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 14:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

==  Proposed deletion of Pahariwood ==
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The article [[Pahariwood]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern:
:'''no evidence of [[WP:NOTE|notability]]'''

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== your reversion ==

Adding Iranians to the related "see also" section is wrong on the [[British Pakistani]] page as they are not counted as Asians per the British census, unlike Pakistanis, Indians, and other groups heavily related to Pakistanis. On top of that, 98% of Irans ethnic groups are completely dissimilar to Pakistan. (Only the 2% comprising the Baloch)

If you want to list "neighbouring groups" then China has to be listed as well, as they border Pakistan. Don't forget Chinese and Pakistanis are both Asians.
However, if you're keen about "related groups", then you have to add Saudis in the UK, Omanis in the UK, Bahrainis/Qataris in the UK, etc as well as a significant amount of their populations are descendants of Pakistani migrants and are holders of their passports.

It's as if let's say, on the "Koreans in Britain" or "Mongolians in Britain" page, Russians in Britain would be added to the "see also", just because Russia and North Korea and Russia and Mongolia border each other. That's just wrong and not appropriate.
[[Special:Contributions/84.241.193.202|84.241.193.202]] ([[User talk:84.241.193.202|talk]]) 15:58, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

== Review Edits made on Imran Khan's page ==

Hi - can I request you to review these edits [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imran_Khan&diff=655521119&oldid=653432413 ] made by a certain Wikipedia user on [[Imran Khan]] page - it seems to be negative propaganda - these edits were inserted continuously between the timeframes March 3rd 2015 to March 9th 2015 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imran_Khan&diff=650488756&oldid=649245507 ] - I chose to undo them and he has again gone to revert them.  I do not want to get into a delete-undelete debate and hope a senior editor like yourself can evaluate if the text should / should-not remain - in all neutrality you shall see that it has the intent of it being negative dirty propaganda --- Thanks ---  [[User:Drawab|Dr. Awab Alvi]] ([[User talk:Drawab|talk]]) 08:17, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
:: Hi Awab. I've not made many edits to the [[Imran Khan]] article in the recent past but it is indeed in my [[WP:WATCHLIST]]. Nevertheless, I've gone through the article and have done a minor revamp, including toning down some negative [[WP:POV]] in line with neutrality and trimming away [[WP:BLPVIO|BLP violations]]. I've provided some recommendations regarding such content at [[Talk:Imran Khan/Archives/2016/April#Some minor edits]]. For the future, anyone prior to reverting or adding in similar content should be directed to the talk page and be advised to discuss the issue there, as per that thread. Any edit or escalation made without [[WP:CONSENSUS]] can be legitimately reverted. Regards, '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 12:50, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Perfect - I appreciate the effort you went to cleanse and re-format this article, Thank you --- [[User:Drawab|Dr. Awab Alvi]] ([[User talk:Drawab|talk]]) 13:32, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

== Good work on British Pakistanis ==

Hi. As a follow up to [[User_talk:Mar4d/Archive_11#Emiratis_in_the_United_Kingdom|my previous comments]], I just wanted to say thanks for your recent edits to [[British Pakistanis]]. It's good to see someone making lots of small, incremental, well-sourced changes that add up to making a real difference to an article. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 20:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks again :) I plan to spin out some sub-article/s in the near future since the main article seems to be getting too long and does not appear to have enough capacity for further large content expansions. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 05:12, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
::That sounds reasonable. It was also be great if the article could gain [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] status. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 07:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
::: I'm aware that it previously had GA status but for (whatever) reasons it was demoted. Nevertheless, it would be good to revisit that and see if it could fare for GA again. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 07:34, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes, I was looking into that today. It seems it was promoted to GA with no documented review or discussion taking place, so I requested that it be revisited, and it was demoted straight away because it didn't meet the criteria. I think we can get it there though. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 15:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

== Durrani Empire Map ==

Hi, 

Durrani empire map, which is located in Durrani Empire, has not a reliable source. The borders, specially in southern areas are exactly the same as today's Pakistan which was created in 1948. There was no Pakistan at that time. Also, Mashhad was controlled by the Shahrukh Afshar, after Nader death in 1747 and was controlled by him until Agha Mohammad Khan of Qajar dystany defeated Zand Kngdom  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Phoenix2535|Phoenix2535]] ([[User talk:Phoenix2535|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phoenix2535|contribs]]) 23:18, 25 April 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Kindly do not change the pictures section ==
First of all you mentioned that inflating the picture box is against WP:MOS. I have read it all along and nowhere such policy is mentioned at all. So i am not hindering any rules by inflating that box. No wikipedia policy disallow you with such acts. Secondly the argument that British Pakistan speak or understand Urdu only is utterly false. I am a British Pakistani and this information is totally wrong. Many Second generation Pakistanis adopted English as their first language. 
Moreover the last picture box do not represent a diverse group of Britiah Pakistanis. The problem with the British Pakistani community is that there are not many role models and lack of such examples deviate our population. More examples will lead them in a better manner. 
So kindly make some other argument to undo my revisions. There is nothing wrong as long as the contribution is on a positive note. Moreover integration and diversity should be witnessed from such representation and my contribution did that.
I hope you will take these notes on a professional unbiased manner rather than on a biased manner.  
Thanks and have a nice week.  
Khuda hafiz.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ronties|Ronties]] ([[User talk:Ronties|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ronties|contribs]]) 06:54, 27 April 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== RM not RfC ==

A discussion on change in title should happen as [[WP:RM]] and not as [[WP:RFC]]. Please start a Requested Move section. I closed the move discussion section as that was improper way of staring RM. ''[[User:Nafsadh|<span style="color:#004F99">nafSadh</span>]] [[special:contributions/Nafsadh|did]] [[User talk:Nafsadh|say]]'' 17:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
:When you created the RM you used {{tlx|Requested move}} directly, but you should [[WP:substitute]] it using {{tlsp|Requested move|New name|reason=your reson}}. Read more at: [[Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Requesting_a_single_page_move]]. Cheers! ''[[User:Nafsadh|<span style="color:#004F99">nafSadh</span>]] [[special:contributions/Nafsadh|did]] [[User talk:Nafsadh|say]]'' 18:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
:: My mistake. Thanks for fixing it up. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 18:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

==Invite==
Feel free to participate [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Battle_of_Rajasthan]. [[User:Xtremedood|Xtremedood]] ([[User talk:Xtremedood|talk]]) 04:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

== AHLM13 ==

{{ping|Favonian}}; {{ping|Ravensfire}} The account looks like its been hacked. We need an admin to block straight away. I've posted at ANI but no response yet. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 15:09, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
:Agreed.  I was posting on ANI at the same time as you but you beat me.  This does not seem like AHLM13. [[User:Ravensfire|<b style="color:darkred;">Ravensfire</b>]] ([[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]) 15:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2015 May newsletter ==

[[file:C2014 Q2.jpg|thumb|right|[[C/2014 Q2 (Lovejoy)]] is a long-period [[comet]] discovered on 17 August 2014 by [[Terry Lovejoy]]; and is one of several Featured Pictures worked up by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|The Herald}} during the second round.]]
The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Casliber}} in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on [[Corona Borealis]] and [[Microscopium]] - both of which received the maximum bonus. 
 
Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.
 
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Coemgenus}} was one of several users who worked on improving [[Ulysses S. Grant]]. Remember, you do not need to work on an article on your own - as long as each person has completed significant work on the article during 2015, multiple competitors can claim the same article.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Cwmhiraeth}} took [[Dragonfly]] to Good Article for a 3x bonus - and if that wasn't enough, they also took [[Damselfly]] there as well for a 2x bonus.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|LeftAire}} worked up [[Alexander Hamilton]] to Good Article for the maximum bonus. Hamilton was one of the founding fathers of the United States and is a [[Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded/People|level 4 vital article]].

The points varied across groups, with the lowest score required to gain automatic qualification was 68 in Group A - meanwhile the second place score in Group H was 404, which would have been high enough to win all but one of the other Groups! As well as the top two of each group automatically going through to the third round, a minimum score of 55 was required for a wildcard competitor to go through. We had a three-way tie at 55 points and all three have qualified for the next round, in the spirit of fairness. The third round ends on June 28, with the top two in each group progressing automatically while the remaining 16 highest scorers across all four groups go through as wildcards. Good luck to all competitors for the third round! {{User4|Figureskatingfan}}, {{user4|Miyagawa}} and {{User4|Sturmvogel 66}} 16:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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== Revert Vandalism ==

Hi User, Kindly revert your POV vandalism on pages like [[Overseas Pakistanis]] and [[Pakistanis]]. You have deleted sourced and well established facts. You can also read [[Talk:Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh]]. Kindly cooperate with Wikipedia in constructive manner. Thank you.--[[User:Human3015|'''<span style="color:red;">Human</span><span style="color:green;">3015</span>''']][[User talk:Human3015|<span style="color:#FA0"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;• 11:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
:First, learn [[WP:CIVIL]] and ''do not'' refer to my edits as POV or vandalism. ''You'' are the one pushing unsourced POV into articles. [[Stranded Pakistanis]] '''are not Pakistanis or Overseas Pakistanis'''. Accept this and stop adding [[WP:OR]] violations on articles. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 11:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
:: And don't point to [[Talk:Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh]]. That is an unresolved dispute and until it is settled, don't add disputed claims to other articles. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 11:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
:::If dispute is not resolved then why you are deleting it?--[[User:Human3015|'''<span style="color:red;">Human</span><span style="color:green;">3015</span>''']][[User talk:Human3015|<span style="color:#FA0"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;• 11:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
:::: Last time I'm going to say this if you don't understand: [[Pakistanis]] and [[Overseas Pakistanis]] article is for citizens of Pakistan. People who were born in Pakistan, are citizens/nationals of Pakistan, or whose ancestors are from Pakistan. [[Stranded Pakistanis]] is for Urdu-speaking people from [[Bangladesh]], and does not have anything to do with these articles. There is a discussion going over the title of that article. Stranded Pakistanis are not legally citizens of Pakistan, neither do they fit the definition of [[Overseas Pakistanis]], which is a term defined by the [[Ministry of Overseas Pakistanis]]. So I'm going to ask you again to desist from adding factually incorrect information on the concerned articles. '''[[User:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">Mar4d</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mar4d|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]) 11:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC)