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*The song title "Silent Night" should be in quotes, not italicized. Italics are reserved for long-form works (i.e. albums); songs are rendered in quotes. --[[User:FuriousFreddy|FuriousFreddy]] 14:03, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Most definitely [[User:Phoenix2|Phoenix2]] 02:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


I think the birth of Jesus should be on here, I'm not really big on religion, but a lot more people are going to care about that than the Republic of Ezo. Coocooforcocopuffs 23:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:"Christmas" is there already. The birth of Jesus on the 25 of December is a tradition and most scholars agree it's not an accurate date, it's just a celebration. Besides, we don't even know the year that Jesus is born in. [[User:Aranherunar|Aran]]|[[User_talk:Aranherunar|heru]]|[[Special:Contributions/Aranherunar|nar]] 05:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Probably the year 0 or 1 A.D., seeing as B.C. is before he was born. --Coocooforcocopuffs 01:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
:Again, no one knows but it's not generally believed to be 1 A.D. (there's no such thing as year 0). Check out [[Christmas]] and [[Nativity of Jesus]] for more details [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 13:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

=="the West"==
"[[800]] - [[Pope Leo III]] [[coronation|crowned]] '''[[Charlemagne]]''' [[Holy Roman Emperor|emperor]], a title that had been out of use in [[Western world|the West]] since the [[abdication]] of [[Romulus Augustulus]] in [[476]]. "

"the West", I believe, means "the [[Western Roman Empire]]" in this context. It should therefore link there. I have explained [[Talk:Charlemagne#The_title_.22Emperor.22|here]]. [[User:Aranherunar|Aran]]|[[User_talk:Aranherunar|heru]]|[[Special:Contributions/Aranherunar|nar]] 05:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

: A title to be used in the "Western Roman Empire" in the year 800 ? That empire was done centuries earlier. I'm not sure if the current link is right, but I don't know how to fix it. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 21:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

== Mistake ==
Silent Night was first performed on 24th, not 25th, see [http://silentnight.web.za/history/index.htm] or [http://www.stillenacht.at/en/origin_song.asp]. --[[User:Japo|Japo]] ([[User talk:Japo|talk]]) 16:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Hessians ==

Could someone please link to [[Hessian (soldiers)]] instead to the disambiguation page [[Hessian]]. Thanks a lot in advance. --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] ([[User talk:Frank Schulenburg|talk]]) 05:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 05:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was fast ;-) Thanks a lot! --[[User:Frank Schulenburg|Frank Schulenburg]] ([[User talk:Frank Schulenburg|talk]]) 05:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

== 2011 notes ==

*Removed: [[St Paul's Cathedral]] (appears on [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 20|October 20]])
*Moved to Ineligible: [[Charlemagne]], [[Hirohito]], [[Beagle 2]]
*Swapped out: [[William the Conqueror]], [[Christmas Island]], [[Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang]], [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]], [[National Anthem of Russia]]
*Swapped in: [[Washington's crossing of the Delaware River]] (6th appearance, last in 2009), [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (3rd appearance, last in 2009), [[Stone of Scone]] (2nd appearance, last in 2007), [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]] (first appearance), [[St Mel's Cathedral]] (first appearance)
--<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 00:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== Formatting issue ==

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I'm using the selected anniversaries as part of [[Portal:History]], and ''somebody'' put a spare </div> into the page (bottom of notes), messing up the formatting. Do fix. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">[[User:Resident Mario|<b style="color:#333333;">Res</b>]][[User_talk:Resident_Mario#top|<span style="color:#444444;">Mar</span>]]</span> 23:03, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
:Does it always take this long to get back on these? <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">[[User:Resident Mario|<b style="color:#333333;">Res</b>]][[User_talk:Resident_Mario#top|<span style="color:#444444;">Mar</span>]]</span> 15:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:: [[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> Sometimes, yes, especially when you don't specify clearly what the requested edit is. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 16:22, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Well I thought saying "spare div" is pretty clear. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">[[User:Resident Mario|<b style="color:#333333;">Res</b>]][[User_talk:Resident_Mario#top|<span style="color:#444444;">Mar</span>]]</span> 19:14, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::: OTOH, since you didn't use {{tag|nowiki}} or {{tl|tag}} or the like to escape your "<nowiki></div></nowiki>", it renders in the page as "somebody put a spare into the page (bottom of notes)". And since the page does have a section called 'Notes' inside the 'Staging area', that just added to the confusion.
:::: FYI, the ''ideal'' request would copy the page text into a sandbox somewhere, make the fix, and then link to the resulting diff showing exactly what needs to be changed. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 21:11, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::All for an extra <nowiki></div></nowiki> tag? That seems wildly excessive. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">[[User:Resident Mario|<b style="color:#333333;">Res</b>]][[User_talk:Resident_Mario#top|<span style="color:#444444;">Mar</span>]]</span> 21:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::: If you want the fastest response, you have to make it as easy as possible for any passing admin. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 01:09, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:Ah, just noticed that. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">[[User:Resident Mario|<b style="color:#333333;">Res</b>]][[User_talk:Resident_Mario#top|<span style="color:#444444;">Mar</span>]]</span> 21:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== 2012 notes ==

*Omitted: [[Battle of Trenton]]; [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]]; [[Stone of Scone]] (ineligible—maintenance); [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]]; [[St Mel's Cathedral]]
*Included: [[Christmas Island]] (2nd appearance, last in 2010); [[Handel and Haydn Society]] (first appearance); [[Hirohito]] (4th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible; moved from [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/November 10|November 10]]); [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]] (4th appearance, last in 2010); [[Northwest Airlines Flight 253]]/[[Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab]] (first appearance)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 08:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

== 2013 notes ==

*Omitted: [[Christmas Island]] (ineligible—maintenance); [[Handel and Haydn Society]]; [[Hirohito]]; [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]]; [[Northwest Airlines Flight 253]]/[[Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab]]
*Included: [[William the Conqueror]] (3rd appearance, last in 2010); [[Ephraim McDowell]] (first appearance; moved from [[WP:Selected anniversaries/December 13|December 13]]); [[Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng]] (2nd appearance, last in 2010); [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] (6th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); [[St Mel's cathedral, Longford]] (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 07:21, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

== 2014 notes ==

Thinking we should put [[Christmas Truce]] of for this year. Currently a Good Article and it is the 100th anniversary  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.203.88.210|50.203.88.210]] ([[User talk:50.203.88.210|talk]]) 16:58, 6 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The article normally appears on [[WP:Selected anniversaries/December 24|December 24]], but it's featured as [[Template:POTD/2014-12-25|POTD for today]], so that makes it ineligible for inclusion. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 06:36, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

== 2014 notes ==

*Omitted: [[Ephraim McDowell]]; [[Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng]]; [[Mikhail Gorbachev]]; [[St Mel's cathedral, Longford]]
*Included: [[George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River]]/[[Battle of Trenton]] (Crossing: 7th appearance; Battle: 2nd appearance; both last in 2011); [[Hirohito]] (5th appearance, last in 2012); [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]] (5th appearance, last in 2012; 25th anniversary); [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]]
*Repeats: [[William the Conqueror]] (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 19:22, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

== 2015 notes ==

*Omitted: [[George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River]]; [[Hirohito]]; [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]]; [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]]
*Included: [[Handel and Haydn Society]] (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 200th anniversary); [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (4th appearance, last in 2011); [[Kilvenmani massacre]] (first appearance); [[National Anthem of Russia]] (2nd appearance, last in 2010)
*Repeats: [[William the Conqueror]] (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 11:21, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

== 2016 notes ==

*Deleted: [[George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River]]/[[Battle of Trenton]] (moved to [[WP:Selected anniversaries/December 26|December 26]])
*Omitted: [[Handel and Haydn Society]]; [[Kilvenmani massacre]]; [[National anthem of Russia]]
*Included: [[Ephraim McDowell]] (3rd appearance, last in 2013); [[Hirohito]] (6th appearance, last in 2014; 90th anniversary); [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] (7th appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary)
*Repeats: [[William the Conqueror]] (4th consecutive appearance, 6 total; 950th anniversary); [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 75th anniversary)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 01:09, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

== 2017 notes ==

*Omitted: [[William the Conqueror]]; [[Ephraim McDowell]]; [[Hirohito]] (ineligible—maintenance); [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (ineligible—maintenance); [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] (ineligible—maintenance)
*Included: [[Baldwin I of Jerusalem]] (3rd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); [[Baptist War]] (first appearance); [[Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng]] (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 90th anniversary); [[Trial of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu]] (first appearance; blurb previously featured [[Nicolae Ceaușescu]] and is making its 6th appearance, last in 2014); [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]] (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary); [[Makan ibn Kaki]] (first appearance); [[Nina E. Allender]] (first appearance); [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]] (first appearance)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 01:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

== 2018 notes ==

*Rescued from Ineligible (unused): [[Removal of the Stone of Scone in 1950]] (blurb previously featured [[Stone of Scone]], which remains ineligible)
*New articles (unused): [[Chengjia]]; [[2016 Russian Defence Ministry Tupolev Tu-154 crash]]
*Omitted: [[Baldwin I of Jerusalem]]; [[Baptist War]]; [[Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng]]; [[Trial of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu]]; [[San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks]]; [[Makan ibn Kaki]]; [[Nina E. Allender]]; [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]]
*Included: [[Halley's Comet]] (3rd appearance, last in 2016; moved from [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/May 25|May 25]]); [[Handel and Haydn Society]] (3rd appearance, last in 2015); [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (6th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); [[Kilvenmani massacre]] (2nd appearance, last in 2015; 50th anniversary); [[St Mel's cathedral, Longford]] (3rd appearance, last in 2013); [[Zhang Jingda]] (first appearance); [[Otto Frederick Hunziker]] (first appearance); [[Atal Bihari Vajpayee]] (first appearance)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

==2019 request==
{{ping|Howcheng}} - On 25 December 1819, [[Thelnetham Windmill]] was first set to work. Can it be featured on OTD, with photograph please? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 13:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

== 2019 notes ==

*Moved to Ineligible: [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]] (maintenance)
*Rescued from Ineligible (unused): [[Mikhail Gorbachev]]
*Omitted: [[Halley's Comet]]; [[Handel and Haydn Society]]; [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]]; [[Kilvenmani massacre]]; [[Zhang Jingda]]; [[Otto Frederick Hunziker]]; [[Atal Bihari Vajpayee]]
*Included: [[William the Conqueror]] (7th appearance, last in 2016); [[Ephraim McDowell]] (4th appearance, last in 2016); [[Trial and execution of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu]] (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 30th anniversary); [[Sverker I of Sweden]] (first appearance); [[Lady Grizel Baillie]] (first appearance); [[Joan Miró]] (first appearance)
*Repeats: [[St Mel's Cathedral]] (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 10th anniversary)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:14, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

== 2020 notes ==

*Moved to Ineligible: [[Handel and Haydn Society]] (maintenance)
*New articles (unused): [[Dorothy Wordsworth]]; [[Fatima Massaquoi]]; [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]]
*Omitted: [[William the Conqueror]]; [[Ephraim McDowell]]; [[Trial and execution of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu]]; [[St Mel's Cathedral]]; [[Sverker I of Sweden]]; [[Lady Grizel Baillie]]; [[Joan Miró]]
*Included: [[Chengjia]] (first appearance); [[Baldwin I of Jerusalem]] (4th appearance, last in 2017); [[1950 removal of the Stone of Scone]] (first appearance; 70th anniversary); [[WorldWideWeb]] (7th appearance, last in 2016; moved from [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 26|February 26]]; 30th anniversary); [[National anthem of Russia]] (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 20th anniversary); [[Peter the Venerable]] (first appearance); [[Nina E. Allender]] (2nd appearance, last in 2017); [[China Machado]] (first appearance)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 19:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

== 2021 notes ==

*Omitted: [[Chengjia]]; [[Baldwin I of Jerusalem]]; [[1950 removal of the Stone of Scone]]; [[WorldWideWeb]]; [[National anthem of Russia]]; [[Peter the Venerable]]; [[Nina E. Allender]]; [[China Machado]]
*Included: [[Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor]] (5th appearance, last in 2010; 975th anniversary; previously appeared on [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 4|June 4]]); [[Baptist War]] (2nd appearance, last in 2017); [[Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng]] (5th appearance, last in 2020; also appeared on [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 10|February 10]]); [[Japanese occupation of Hong Kong]] (7th appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] (8th appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); [[Dorothy Wordsworth]] (first appearance; 250th birthday); [[Young Tom Morris]] (first appearance); [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]] (2nd appearance, last in 2017)
<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 05:48, 26 December 2021 (UTC)