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== New IP? ==

Is this your new IP, 142? You really should let me know so I can watchlist it. Anyway, I’m about to reference you in a thread on my talk about overzealous vandal fighters, and would ping you to weigh in but can’t. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 05:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
:Oh yes, it is! Sorry, I should have let you know. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 05:33, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
:And if you could post a link here too, that would be appreciated. (IPs don't receive pings, of course.) [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 05:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
::[[User_talk:TonyBallioni#Question]], re: my bitching about Huggle the video game at the current RfA. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]])
{{ping|TonyBallioni}} what's going on here. Why is this user editing under two addresses. This excluded by Sock policy isn't it? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 22:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:Uhhhh, having's one IP address change violates the sockpuppetry policy? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 22:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|In ictu oculi}}, IP addresses change regularly. This user tends to have one that is more stable than most, but they don’t have control over when their ISP decides to change their address. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 22:40, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:Additionally, {{u|In ictu oculi}}, if you had any questions concerning my editing activity, I'm not sure why you wouldn't address your concerns to me directly. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 22:46, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
::If your IP address is changing then as a courtesy to other users, and to enable assessment of edits it would be better to register an account. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 07:18, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

==Talkback==
{{talkback|Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)|ERIC|ts=21:18, 16 July 2018 (UTC)}}
[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00F;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 21:18, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:I updated the{{tl|ERIC}} template so that it uses the {{para|url-access}} parameter in the same way that the CS1 templates do instead of using {{para|lock|yes}}. To display the green lock, you now have to use {{para|url-access|free}}. This provides the ability to use  <code>free</code>, <code>registration</code>, <code>limited</code>, or <code>subscription</code>. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00F;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 15:00, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ahecht}} That's even better. Thank you very much! [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:13, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

{{ping|Ahecht}} I'm wondering if I could ask another favour. Would something similar be able to be implemented for {{tl|hdl}}? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 23:27, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}}. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 15:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you!! [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 17:26, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm really hate to bother you again, {{u|Ahecht}}, but would I be able to get a hand with another similar template? It's {{tl|URN}} (which I haven't run into before now). [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 22:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}}. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 21:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks again! [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

== Apologies for the revert ==

Sorry, the program I was using to revert vandalism, Stiki, made it look like your edit was blanking.  Please forgive any inconvience that may of caused you.  Goodbye. 
[[User:Kothlover|Kothlover]] ([[User talk:Kothlover|talk]]) 01:00, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Why reverted? ==

Hi,

you have reverted my change:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MailOnline&diff=851364949&oldid=851305554

1. Please explain why.

2. Please explain how else would you put the information I have added. Would you use other wording? Would you put it to another section?

Regards. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fedor.gromov.5|Fedor.gromov.5]] ([[User talk:Fedor.gromov.5#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fedor.gromov.5|contribs]]) 22:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC)</small>

:As my edit summary indicated, it was an entirely unsourced allegation. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 22:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

::What exactly need to be sourced?
::'''- Should the lack of HTTPS be sourced?''' Everyone who tries to open the HTTPS version (https://www.dailymail.co.uk) sees, that this page redirects to the HTTP version (http://www.dailymail.co.uk). It is not opinion based. This is a fact. Before reverting you could have tried to open this web site and you would get confirmation. Nevertheless, I can add a link to prove that. Is a report of Google a reliable source to you? https://transparencyreport.google.com/https/top-sites
::'''- Or you mean a source is needed confirming that HTTP is a security problem?''' Will following link be suficient? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS#Difference_from_HTTP: "HTTP is not encrypted and is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle and eavesdropping attacks, which can let attackers gain access to website accounts and sensitive information, and modify webpages to inject malware or advertisements." <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fedor.gromov.5|Fedor.gromov.5]] ([[User talk:Fedor.gromov.5#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fedor.gromov.5|contribs]]) 16:33, 22 July 2018 (UTC)</small>

:::If it's of particular importance to the subject (i.e., ''MailOnline''), there should be an independent source discussing it in the context of that subject. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 16:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

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== Queen Latifah ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Daiyusha|Daiyusha]]. I noticed that you recently removed content from [[:Queen Latifah]]&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:Sandbox|sandbox]]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Daiyusha|my talk page]]. ''Removal of references. ''<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> [[User:Daiyusha|Daiyusha]] ([[User talk:Daiyusha|talk]]) 08:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Daiyusha}} Uhh, to which content are you referring? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 16:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

== Evangelicalism and Jason Wade ==
{{see also|Talk:Evangelicalism#Unexplained reversion|Talk:Defence of Canada Regulations#Reversion|Talk:Jason Wade#Unexplained reversion}}
=== Evangelicalism ===
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:{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} Please see the discussion at {{section link|Talk:Evangelicalism|Unexplained reversion}}. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 01:09, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evangelicalism&oldid=prev&diff=855207646
There is a reason to archive out of order: the discussion is done and now you're simply trying to embarrass me. Reverted. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 18:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:No, the discussion isn't over because one party declares it to be over after a few hours. Please note the most recent comment in the discussion which seeks clarification. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 18:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:: <s>I will respond there. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 18:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)</s>

=== Jason Wade ===
Categories a hierarchical. [[:Category:American performers of Christian music]] should have been a descendant of American Christians. It was not. I reverted that change. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:09, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} Why should it have been a descendent of American Christians? I don't think similar categories are so structured as performing music from a particular religion doesn't mean one is part of that religion. (Think of atheist organists, for example.) [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:: It makes imminent sense that a performer of Christian music would be a Christian. Your argument is not a logical one as there is no such thing as "atheist music", but there is Jewish rock and hip hop, and there may be similar genres for Muslims. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} I think you misunderstand me. I was referring to atheist organists who perform primarily Christian sacred music. Of course there's no such thing as "atheist music". (Well, I'm sure there's an edgy [[New Atheist]] teen with a garage band somewhere out there, singing about God not existing or whatever, but "atheist music" is definitely not ''a thing''.) [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:16, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::: Valid point. I'm not discussing this any longer. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} That was rather passive aggressive... [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::: Shoot. I was simply aiming for aggressive. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:22, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} How do you reconcile that with [[WP:CIVIL]]? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::: I'm not trying to. I've admitted two mistakes and I want you to leave me alone. Your change has been restored and the article has been otherwise improved. I'm done here. And further pings or requests here will be ignored. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:26, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} {{tq|I've admitted two mistakes}} That's the first I'm hearing of this, especially considering the accusation of "vandalism" for having pointed out what you now apparently acknowledge to be mistakes remains unaddressed and the corresponding template unstruck. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

== Canadian Labour Defence League ==
<Del><div style=clear: both></div>[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Please stop your [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. If you continue to [[WP:Vandalism|vandalize]] Wikipedia by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian%20Labour%20Defence%20League&diff=855084692 this edit]</span> to [[:Canadian Labour Defence League]], you may be [[WP:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-error-3 --><!-- Template:uw-error3 -->[[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 20:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)</del>

:Striking message, arguable, proceed as you wish but I suggest you add a source for the change. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Donner60}} On what basis are you asserting that I am "deliberately introducing incorrect information"? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 20:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

::A legal defense league provides legal defenses: from prosecution, not persecution. Your belief is no basis for changing this obvious fact. If you can cite a source which says that this was part of their original purpose, then cite it if you wish to change the word; though I would still suggestion you add it and not delete the other word. The following quote from a Wikipedia guideline page is relevant here: "Wikipedia's content is determined by previously published information rather than by the personal beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. The policy says that all material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, needs a reliable source; what counts as a reliable source is described in [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]]." [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::I would say the same to you, given that the unsourced term ''prosecution'' was introduced to the article within the past hour. According, I'll restore the status quo version and you can address the matter on the talk page, in line with [[WP:BRD]].
:::But you didn't answer the question, {{u|Donner60}}: "On what basis are you asserting that I am 'deliberately introducing incorrect information'?" That's quite the accusation to level. And I'll ask that you bear [[WP:AGF]] in mind in your response. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Sorry if you don't like my answer. This is certainly not worth debating. If you wish to proceed as you did before, go ahead. I will not further edit the article. I will even strike the template message to completely reset the matter. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Donner60}} Thank you for striking the message, but that doesn't address the basis on which you accused me of "''deliberately'' introducing incorrect information [emphasis added]". Surely you would have something to back up an accusation like that. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:18, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::It was the error template; I am sorry it was the third warning and I was not aware of that it was that message and it would be that strong. I simply wanted to say that it was an error: prosecution, not persecution. I will again say I am sorry and that I have attempted to reset the matter as best I could. I see no point in carrying this on. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:22, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you, {{u|Donner60}}. I trust you'll be more careful in templating in the future. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

== Samantha Fox ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] <s>Hello, I'm [[User:Nzd|Nzd]]. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, [[:Samantha Fox]], but you didn't provide a [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable source]]. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|include a citation]] and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the [[Help:Referencing for beginners|referencing for beginners]] tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Nzd|my talk page]]. Thank you.</s> <span style="background: #6fd6f5; font-family: Monospace;">[[User:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">Nzd</span>]] [[User talk:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">(talk)</span>]]</span> 18:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Nzd}} The information was already sourced in the article. I merely added the corresponding category. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 18:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:: I may be missing something but I searched for 'protestant' within the article before reverting. Could you point me to the source that mentions this please? Thanks, <span style="background: #6fd6f5; font-family: Monospace;">[[User:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">Nzd</span>]] [[User talk:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">(talk)</span>]]</span> 18:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:::No worries, {{u|Nzd}}. It's under the heading [[Samantha Fox#Personal life|Personal life]]:
:::{{tq2|In 1994, it was reported that Fox had become a [[Born again|born again Christian]];<ref>{{Cite news | url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/202953.stm | title=Samantha Fox charged with DUI | publisher=BBC News | date=28 October 1998 | accessdate=26 November 2009}}</ref> that year she played at the Christian arts festival [[Greenbelt Festival|Greenbelt]].<ref>{{Cite book | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=LR8i-zH2MkwC&pg=PA118 | title=The Nature of Religious Language: A Colloquium | first=Stanley E. | last=Porter | isbn=978-1-85075-580-7 | year=1996 | publisher=[[Continuum International Publishing Group]] | page=118}}</ref>}}
:::The concept of being "born again" is specifically Protestant and principally evangelical. (It's even typical for American religious demographers, such at those at the [[Pew Research Center]], which is well known for their religious demographic research, for example, to presume those who identify as "born-again Christians" to be evangelical. While it wouldn't surprise me if a minority might take issue with that, no one has any doubt that a "born-again Christian" is necessarily Protestant.) [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 18:27, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for the explanation. I've had a read of the [[Born again|article]] and you are probably right, although one might argue [[WP:SYNTH]] unless there is a specific source to support Protestantism. I won't revert if you make the change again, but I would suggest a note, at least in the edit summary. Thanks, <span style="background: #6fd6f5; font-family: Monospace;">[[User:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">Nzd</span>]] [[User talk:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">(talk)</span>]]</span> 18:47, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
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== re: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Religion ==

Concerning the edit made to a capitalization of a wikilink on the [[Glossolalia]] article:
 
I wasn't aware. Many thanks [[User:Edaham|Edaham]] ([[User talk:Edaham|talk]]) 05:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Edaham}} No problem! [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 05:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

==MOS==

Your edits are not compliant with the MOS. All Wikipedia articles have full dates of birth in the first sentence: while the format you have adopted is used by certain other notable publications, it is not and has never been used by Wikipedia. [[User:The Drover&#39;s Wife|The Drover&#39;s Wife]] ([[User talk:The Drover&#39;s Wife|talk]]) 02:35, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Drover&#39;s Wife}} If that's your concern with the edit, would you be able to address this on the article's talk page at {{section link|Talk:George Beeby|Reversion}} in line with [[WP:BRD]]? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 02:39, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

== ''Turning the Tables: From Housewife to Inmate and Back Again'' ==

<s><div style=clear: both></div>[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] You may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further warning''' the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turning%20the%20Tables%3A%20From%20Housewife%20to%20Inmate%20and%20Back%20Again&diff=858689379 this edit]</span> to [[:Turning the Tables: From Housewife to Inmate and Back Again]].<!-- Template:Huggle/warn-4 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> --[[User:PolicyReformer|Policy]] [[User talk:PolicyReformer|Reformer]][[Special:Contributions/PolicyReformer|(c)]] 00:19, 9 September 2018 (UTC)</s>
:{{ping|PolicyReformer}} Uhh, what's wrong with italicizing the title of a book title in accordance with [[MOS:ITALICTITLE]]? And what's with the threat? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 00:21, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
::You are entirely correct. Please accept my sincere apologies.  I've already reverted to your version.  Thank you for letting me know! --[[User:PolicyReformer|Policy]] [[User talk:PolicyReformer|Reformer]][[Special:Contributions/PolicyReformer|(c)]] 00:27, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you for reverting it, {{u|PolicyReformer}}, but I do hope you will be more restrained in deciding to jump to a level-four warning, complete with a threat of banning. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 00:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
::::The level 4 warning was auto-populated by [[WP:HG|Huggle]] based on prior warnings against this IP address.  (I'm not sure if those edits were by you.)  You might consider [[WP:Account|creating an account]] to avoid this.  If you would prefer not to, you might consider [[H:ARC|archiving]] old warnings.  I think it would also be permissible to [[WP:REMOVED|remove the warnings]] as you've already reviewed them.  Again, please accept my apologies.  --[[User:PolicyReformer|Policy]] [[User talk:PolicyReformer|Reformer]][[Special:Contributions/PolicyReformer|(c)]] 00:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{tps}} This is why I always remove the commented bit when striking warnings (in the case above, {{code|Template:Huggle/warn-4}} and {{code|Template:uw-vandalism4}}. I believe that's what Huggle uses to decide which template level to use, and one of you may want to remove those ones, otherwise Huggle will probably auto-[[WP:AIV|report]] the next 'incident'. <span style="background: #6fd6f5; font-family: Monospace;">[[User:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">Nzd</span>]] [[User talk:Nzd|<span style="color: #98285c">(talk)</span>]]</span> 07:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== Black Flags ==

I replied to the Black Flags move. Just though you'd like to know. [[User:Sakura Cartelet|<span style="color: fuchsia;">Sak</span><span style="color: red;">ura </span><span style="color: gold;">Cart</span><span style="color: cyan;">elet</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sakura Cartelet|Talk]]</sup> 02:37, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:I've decided to support the move of the page despite initially opposing it. I also gave a support for the Quiet Power page move as well. [[User:Sakura Cartelet|<span style="color: fuchsia;">Sak</span><span style="color: red;">ura </span><span style="color: gold;">Cart</span><span style="color: cyan;">elet</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Sakura Cartelet|Talk]]</sup> 05:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== Disputed requested moves ==

If I may, might I suggest creating an account, so that you can [[WP:BOLD|boldly]] move the articles you need without having to deal with requests for them and the resultant disputes? -- '''[[User:AlexTheWhovian|<span style="color:#1632E0;text-shadow:1px 1px 8px #324A6E;">Alex</span>]]'''''[[User talk:AlexTheWhovian#top|<sup><span style="color:#1632E0">TW</span></sup>]]'' 03:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
*That is, registering as a Wikipedia user and choosing a username for yourself. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 15:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
**{{u|142.160.89.97}} I'd like to add my voice here and express what I think many editors are feeling, hopefully in a way that will be constructive. Unfortunately, your behaviour regarding the move requests has been borderline disruptive. I don't doubt you may have had good intentions, and I recognise you are a fairly new editor, but rushing ahead with the sheer volume of move requests, mostly incorrectly classified as "uncontroversial technical requests", has not been helpful. Your rationale for moving the book articles has been flawed as well. [[WP:SUBTITLE]] is a guideline and not a policy. A guideline is "a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply". It does not override policies such as [[WP:COMMONNAME]], [[WP:PRECISE]] or [[WP:NATURALDIS]]. If you believed the titles were unsuitable, a better approach would have been to seek community consensus before mass-changing long-standing titles and not act [https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/like_a_bull_at_a_gate like a bull at a gate]. [[User:AusLondonder|AusLondonder]] ([[User talk:AusLondonder|talk]]) 00:03, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

== September 2018 ==
[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]].
* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:Help:Talk pages|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant notice boards]].
* If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents|Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]].
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:Hhkohh|Hhkohh]] ([[User talk:Hhkohh|talk]]) 06:24, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hhkohh}} To what disruptive editing are you referring? And why the level-three template? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:25, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:: {{Talk page stalker}} It probably has to do with [[Special:PermaLink/858729157|this]]. <span style="color: purple;font-family: Helvetica;"><b>[[User:Morphdog|Morphdog]]</b></span><sup>[[User talk:Morphdog|talk]]</sup> 21:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:::What is your summary about '''Reverting unexplained reversion'''? [[User:Hhkohh|Hhkohh]] ([[User talk:Hhkohh|talk]]) 22:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Virginia Theological Seminary]]. Your edits appear to constitute [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] and have been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Repeated vandalism may result in the [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|loss of editing privileges]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism2 --> [[User:Jtrrs0|Jtrrs0]] ([[User talk:Jtrrs0|talk]]) 03:07, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
:''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself or [[Special:UserLogin|logging in with an existing account]] so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice -->
::{{ping|Jtrrs0}} Uhhh, what was vandalistic about the edit? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
::: The removal of the Title Reverend as the edit summary mentions.[[User:Jtrrs0|Jtrrs0]] ([[User talk:Jtrrs0|talk]]) 03:12, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Jtrrs0}}
::::# The edit summary also describes my edit as a "[[WP:AGF|good faith]] edit". If that is so, why are you accusing me of vandalism? Bear in mind that [[WP:VANDALISM]] provides, "Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] effort to improve the encyclopedia is {{em|not}} vandalism [emphasis in original]."
::::# If that was your only issue with the edit, why didn't you just revert that?
::::# How do you reconcile your inclusion of those [[style (manner of address)|style]]s with [[WP:HONORIFIC]]? [[WP:HONORIFIC]] provides that {{quote|In general, [[honorific prefixes]]&nbsp;– styles and honorifics in front of a name&nbsp;– [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|in Wikipedia's own voice]] should not be included, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to&nbsp;... styles and honorifics related to royalty, clergy, and sainthoods, such as [[His Holiness]], [[The Reverend]], [[Majesty|Her Majesty]], and [[The Venerable]].}}
:::: [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:35, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
::::: I described it as good faith because that is what I assumed. I never has "accused you of vandalism." A level 2 warning asumes nothing. I would have issued a level 1 but I saw that you had a level 3 for this month and so stopped assuming good faith and assumed neither good or bad faith. 
:::::I will admit to not knowing [[WP:HONORIFIC]] by heart and on review it seems you are probably right. If you so wish to restore your edit please go ahead, I am no longer opposed to it. However, there is no need to be confrontational or patronising, no matter how much more experience you have. [[User:Jtrrs0|Jtrrs0]] ([[User talk:Jtrrs0|talk]]) 03:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|Jtrrs0}} {{tq|I never has "accused you of vandalism."}} You wrote "Your edits appear to constitute [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]". You did so using a template literally called {{tl|uw-vandalism2}}. [[WP:VANDALISM]] says: {{quote|On Wikipedia, '''vandalism''' has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) {{em|{{strong|deliberately}} intended to obstruct or defeat the [[WP:5P|project's purpose]]}}, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge.&nbsp;...<p>Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] effort to improve the encyclopedia is {{em|not}} vandalism.&nbsp;... When editors are editing in good faith, mislabeling their edits as vandalism makes them less likely to respond to corrective advice or to engage collaboratively during a disagreement, for that reason you should avoid using the term "vandalism" unless it is clear the user in question means to harm Wikipedia; this is even true when warning a user with [[WP:UWT|a standard warning template]].}}
::::::The reason this conversation might seem "confrontational" is because it is confrontational. It began with my being confronted with a baseless allegation that I was deliberately trying to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, an allegation somehow justified by a misunderstanding of the project's style guide which for some reason also led you to revert entirely unrelated changes. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 05:22, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
::::{{u|Jtrrs0}}, this IP has significantly more experience on Wikipedia than you do. I promise you whatever the edit was, it wasn’t vandalism. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 03:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

==Files for upload==
[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|20px]] Hello, and thank you for your request at [[Wikipedia:Files for upload|Files for upload]]! The file has been uploaded. Regards, [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] 16:25, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

== September 2018 ==
<s>[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Bluexander|Bluexander]]. I wanted to let you know that one or more of [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|your recent contributions]]&nbsp;to [[:Charlie Cook]] have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:sandbox|sandbox]]. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|Help Desk]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 --> [[User:Bluexander|Bluexander]] (<sup>[[User talk:Bluexander#top|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bluexander|Contributions]]</sub>)  07:07, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself or [[Special:UserLogin|logging in with an existing account]] so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice -->
:{{ping|Bluexander}} Uhh, what's your issue with the edit? Your edit summary just said "There's your edit." I have no idea what that means. And how does it qualify as "vandalism", seeing as you used {{tl|uw-vandalism1}}? Bear in mind that [[WP:VANDALISM]] provides: {{quote|On Wikipedia, '''vandalism''' has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) {{em|{{strong|deliberately}} intended to obstruct or defeat the [[WP:5P|project's purpose]]}}, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge.&nbsp;...<p>Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] effort to improve the encyclopedia is {{em|not}} vandalism.}}
:[[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 07:12, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

I really don't care. Your edits is possible vandalism so I have revert. [[User:Bluexander|Bluexander]] (<sup>[[User talk:Bluexander#top|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bluexander|Contributions]]</sub>)  07:18, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
</s>
:Bluexander is a sock, do not mind it [[User:Hhkohh|Hhkohh]] ([[User talk:Hhkohh|talk]]) 07:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

== Portal bars ==

Hi. These contain just generic links that aren't of any real benefit, hence why it was removed. Unless you can cite a guidance that states otherwise? Thanks. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 16:18, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lugnuts}} [[MOS:LAYOUT]] specifies that portal links are normally in the see also section, presuming the normalcy of their inclusion. If the issue with them is their {{nowrap|"generic[ism]",}} that wouldn't be unique to this article but would instead be universally applicable to all instances of their use, making that argument better suited to [[WP:TFD]]. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 16:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

::Thanks. The wording at [[MOS:SEEALSO]] is a little ambigious - "Portal and Wikipedia books links are usually placed in this section" - It suggests that they are placed there (rather than any other section), but doesn't imply that they ''should'' be on an article at all! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Lugnuts}} It does, however, imply their normalcy. But, more importantly, if the issue with them is their {{nowrap|"generic[ism]",}} that wouldn't be unique to this article but would instead be universally applicable to all instances of their use. Is that indeed the only issue with its use here? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 16:30, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

::::They're used very rarely on articles (that I can see) and I'm not sure how generic links to "Biographies" and "American cinema" are helpful on a one-line stub like this one. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 16:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Lugnuts}} {{tq|They're used very rarely on articles (that I can see)}} The two main portal templates have over 7.6 million transclusions.
:::::{{tq|and I'm not sure how generic links to "Biographies" and "American cinema" are helpful on a one-line stub like this one.}} Is that to say that the answer to my question is "yes"? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 16:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Lugnuts}}? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 06:10, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== [[Seven basic tools of quality]] ==

Hello 142.160.89.97, sorry for my revert. Best regards --[[User:Serols|Serols]] ([[User talk:Serols|talk]]) 19:09, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Serols}} No worries&nbsp;– it happens! [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 19:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

== October 2018 ==
[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|30px|link=]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[WP:Edit warring|edit war]]&#32; according to the reverts you have made on [[:Vancouver School of Theology]]. Users are expected to [[Wikipedia:Consensus#In talk pages|collaborate]] with others, to avoid editing [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptively]], and to [[WP:Consensus|try to reach a consensus]], rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:
# '''Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;'''
# '''Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.'''
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's [[Help:Talk pages|talk page]] to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an [[WP:Noticeboards|appropriate noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, it may be appropriate to [[WP:Requests for page protection|request temporary page protection]]. If you engage in an edit war, you '''may be [[WP:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing.'''<!-- Template:uw-ew --> [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 04:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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== Newspaper of record ==

Hi, I've reverted your changes to [[Newspaper of record]] as there's no reason to remove defunct newspapers or those which are no longer newspapers of record. Wikipedia documents historical fact—it is [[WP:NOTNEWS|not rolling news]]—and so a newspaper which used to be a newspaper of record is just as important to document as one which currently is. If you disagree, leave me a message at [[User talk:Bilorv|my talk page]] or start a discussion at [[Talk:Newspaper of record]]. Thanks! <span class="nowrap">— '''[[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contribs/Bilorv|(c)]][[User talk:Bilorv|('''talk''')]]</sub></span> 15:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

==RfC on which you !voted, has been amended ==
In response to objections, I struck the two year mortatorium thing at [[Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#RfC:_Amendment_for_BIO_to_address_systemic_bias_in_the_base_of_sources]]. I'm notifying everybody who !voted. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 14:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

== October 2018 ==
[[Image:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]]  Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to [[:Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)]] while logged out. Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|policy on multiple accounts]] usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked from editing]]. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your [[IP address]], which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:Uw-login --> <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 20:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Chris troutman}} Uhh, are you accusing me of sockpuppetry? Seriously, you might want to have a look at my contribution history. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 20:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
::You {{diff|Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)|prev|865882016|moved this comment}} by {{u|JaconaFrere}} and I mistakenly assumed you were Jacona and didn't realize you were logged out. I made no accusation of puppetry; sorry. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 20:18, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diligence'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thankyou for helping people see how clicking a template button can cause more problems than it solves. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 10:11, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
|}

:Thanks, {{u|Ritchie333}}! The arrival of these templates feels never-ending sometimes... [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

== Lincoln Cathedral ==

<div style="clear: both"></div>[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lincoln%20Cathedral&diff=867175001 this edit]</span> to [[:Lincoln Cathedral]]. Your edits appear to be [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] and have been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Repeated vandalism can result in the [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|loss of editing privileges]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-2 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism2 -->[[User:Darsana.vinod|Darsana.vinod]] ([[User talk:Darsana.vinod|talk]]) 03:45, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Darsana.vinod}} On what basis are you asserting that edit to be vandalistic (recognizing that, as provided by [[WP:VANDAL]], "on Wikipedia, vandalism has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) '''''deliberately''' intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose'' [emphasis in original]")? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|Darsana.vinod}} If you do not reply to this message within 24 hours I will remove your rollback privileges to prevent abuse. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 09:21, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

== Hannah Arendt ==
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:{{ping|Michael Goodyear}} On what basis are you asserting that edit to be vandalistic (recognizing that, as provided by [[WP:VANDAL]], "on Wikipedia, vandalism has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) '''''deliberately''' intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose'' [emphasis in original]")?
:As to the removal of the alt text, it was removed as it was not compliant with [[MOS:ALT]], providing no information further to the caption. And how is the insertion of {{tl|ill}} the "deletion of [a] link"? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 18:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
:: 1. I have no idea who you are but you are using an anonymous IP which is already flagged for vandalism. Obviously we have no idea what your motives are but if you assert good faith that is fine.
:: 2. Nobody mentioned the word vandalism. This page was tagged to inform you or whoever uses this page that two editors have reverted your edits as being unconstructive. It is a proforma tag. 
:: 3. With regards to the specific point you raise about the alt= caption, you appear not to understand its purpose, which  "serves the same purpose and conveys the same essential information as the image". By deleting it, you deprive the visually impaired of any information. Secondly, it is a requirement for an article to be promoted to GA status, which is currently being assessed. Therefore this edit was unhelpful on two counts. 
:: 4. With regards to the use of {{tl|ill}}, this is a valid method for interlanguage links, but you replaced the original link with this which redlinks. If you look closely, this page, because of its subject mater, has dozens of interlanguage links. Changing one is unhelpful. Anyway it is difficult to see that the substitution of {{tl|ill}}, in anyway improves the article. 
:: I hope you find this useful. --[[User:Michael Goodyear|Michael Goodyear]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Michael Goodyear|✐ ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Michael Goodyear|✉ ]] 13:39, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

== British Army ==

Hi, can you explain why you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Army&diff=867453513&oldid=866969854 removed] the ranks and post-noms from the infobox on this page? Thanks  - [[User:Thewolfchild|<span style="color: black">wolf</span>]] 18:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

== Post-noms ==

Hello again! There is really no need to change the formatting of post-noms as you did at [[Michael Savage (sociologist)]]. As I've said before, the default is only formatted that way because the template was originally only used when some has lots post-noms and so there was a need to shrink them. 100% and with commas is a perfectly valid "alternative". [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  11:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

: Please have a look at [[MOS:POSTNOM]]. Specifically the paragraph stating: '''Post-nominal letters should either be separated from the name by a comma and each set divided by a comma, or no commas should be used at all. If a baronetcy or peerage is held, then commas should always be used for consistency's sake, as the former are separated from the name by a comma.''' 
: You've clearly tickled [[User:Nford24]] the wrong way with your (incorrect) insistence at [[Norman Foster, Baron Foster of Thames Bank]]. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  23:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== [[Seán O'Casey]] ==

Please don't remove captions, even if they're the same as the article title, as you did at [[Seán O'Casey]]; they help screen reader users. You also added overlinking and enforced eccentric preferences about the location of birth/death dates on the article; that's not helpful either. Please also use [[Help:Edit summary|edit summaries]]. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 16:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== November 2018 ==
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== December 2018 ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:CLCStudent|CLCStudent]]. I wanted to let you know that one or more of [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|your recent contributions]]&nbsp;to [[:Gaudete Sunday]] have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:sandbox|sandbox]]. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|Help Desk]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 --> [[User:CLCStudent|CLCStudent]] ([[User talk:CLCStudent|talk]]) 00:18, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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:{{ping|CLCStudent}} What leads you to believe the edit to have been vandalistic? Bear in mind that [[WP:VANDALISM]] provides: {{quote|On Wikipedia, '''vandalism''' has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior) {{em|{{strong|deliberately}} intended to obstruct or defeat the [[WP:5P|project's purpose]]}}, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge.&nbsp;...<p>Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] effort to improve the encyclopedia is {{em|not}} vandalism.}}
:[[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 01:23, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

== Time for a discussion at the article ==

You're usually right, but captions are not usually considered part of the article, but feel free to [[:WP:BRD|discuss]] on the article's talk page. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 02:56, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

== December 2018 ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:BilCat|BilCat]]. I noticed that you recently removed content from [[:Atlanta]]&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:Sandbox|sandbox]]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:BilCat|my talk page]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 08:36, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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:Please see [[MOS:DOCTOR]]. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 19:44, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

::Please use edit summaries from now on, as users on this IP have been asked to do before. I still argue that this is an acceptable use, especially culturally, and will revert as such. You're welcome to discuss their removal on the article's talk page - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 19:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

::I know you've been asked to do this before, but you really ought make all your edits under a registered account. How can you expect others to care about your contributions when you don't care enough to claim them? (I'm of course not talking about using.your real name. I don't post my real name for privacy reasons, as I'm not a publically known person, and don't wish to become one. Too many trolls.) It also simplifies trying to contact you, as others have also pointed out. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 20:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

== Move request ==

*See [[Talk:Perfectae Caritatis#Requested move 31 December 2018]].
**And see [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97]] :: it may be useful if you registered as a Wikipedia user and got yourself a username: see [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 05:47, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

== YOB/YOD or DOD/DOB ==

Hi 142! First things first: I'm not sure how much time I have for Wiki in the near future, so apologies in advance for intermit replies. Now onto dates in bio intros. (Pinging [[User:Yahboo]] too.) 
: [[MOS:OPENPARABIO]]: "'''MoS guidelines for lead paragraphs should generally be followed'''; the opening paragraph should establish notability, neutrally describe the person, and provide context. '''The opening paragraph should usually state [...] Dates of birth and death'''"
: [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Birth_date_and_place|The following paragraph]]: "'''The opening paragraph should usually have dates of birth and (when applicable) death.''' These dates (specific day–month–year) are important information about the subject, but if they are also mentioned in the body, '''the vital year range (in brackets after the person's full name) ''may'' be sufficient to provide context'''." 
You argument is that the wording "may be sufficient" trumps the "should usually", and therefore you have used your discretion to remove full dates from the introduction of some biographies. To me, the wording is clear, and year only (if full dates are available) is the exception to the rule rather than a option for the editor. As quoted above, "MoS guidelines for lead paragraphs should generally be followed" and the "should" is for full dates. Of course, if there are only years known, dates otherwise disputed, or only years being used for BLP reasons, then that is different. Local consensus can be found to apply year-only (the only example I can think of is [[Malcolm X]]) but otherwise the working standard is full dates. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  22:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

==Talkback==
{{talkback|Talk:Leo Tolstoy|Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2019 (part 2)|ts=11:13, 22 January 2019 (UTC)}}
—&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 11:13, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

== [[Lion Versus]] ==

Hi 142. I had a few questions about {{diff2|880216846|this edit}} I was hoping you might have time to answer. Was that done by hand or with a script, and if the latter, which one? Why change some but not all of the refs to sfn? (I thought it was supposed to be one or the other?) Why change to sfn at all, for so few sources? (Just curious on your thoughts about that. Obviously sfn is the better format generally, but it seems to me unnecessarily complicated for short articles with few sources, which I thought this was.) Thanks for taking the time to do some housekeeping there (I learned a bit about cite templates from your edit) and also for answering these questions. '''<sup>[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]</sup><sub style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(45deg);">[[User talk:Levivich|ich]]</sub>''' 21:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Levivich}}. No, I wasn't using any scripts at all. (I'm afraid I don't really have much of a background in programming or anything.) It's all done by hand.
:In terms of which sources I included in the bibliography, I typically only include more major works (in contradistinction to newspaper articles, miscellaneous web pages, and the like); e.g., books (or book chapters), individually published government reports, peer-reviewed journal articles. As for why I introduced the {{tl|sfn}} system, the bibliography helps people identify other significant works relating to the subject at a glance and I figure that it's often easier to introduce earlier in an article's development. As the article grows and we see multiple footnotes referring to the same work, it will become all the more useful.
:And I'm happy to help! Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 02:43, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks again! '''<sup>[[User:Levivich|Leviv]]</sup><sub style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(45deg);">[[User talk:Levivich|ich]]</sub>''' 03:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

== Dilma Rousseff ==

Hello, Can you please explain [[Special:diff/881850890|this category change]] of yours at [[Dilma Rousseff]]? Your edit summary says, ''No indication that she is a Christian socialists (as opposed to a Christian who is a socialist)'', but capitalization and pluralization are important in English, and I'm not sure the summary says what you intended. To me, your explanation sounds like a self-contradiction, so I really don't know what you meant. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 08:24, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
:Sorry, the pluralization of "socialists" is a typo on my part. But what I was indicating was that while she may be both Christian and socialist, she is not necessarily part of the theo-philosophical movement that is ''Christian socialism'', as is indicated on the category page for [[:Category:Christian socialists]]. There are many socialists who are Christians who don't derive their socialism in any significant way from their Christianity (and vice versa). [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 08:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

== Ruether and Harrison ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rosemary_Radford_Ruether&diff=prev&oldid=882441284 This addition of yours] to the [[Rosemary Radford Ruether]] biography is a true fact, according the book you cited. But I removed it anyway, first because only people with Wikipedia articles should be listed in the infobox as influences/influenced, and second because there's no context provided. 

If you would like to restore the fact, first write a biography about [[Beverly Wildung Harrison]]. (It would be good for that to exist.) Or if you don't want to do register a username so you can create a biography, write some prose about the Ruether–Harrison connection in the body of the Ruether biography. Thanks! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 03:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Binksternet}}. No, there's no requirement that only individuals with existing Wikipedia articles can be listed in the influenced field, provided that it meets [[WP:REDYES]], and it appears we're in agreement that Harrison most certainly meets our notability standards ([[WP:NACADEMIC|as a former holder of a named chair at one of the most highly respected seminaries in the United States]], amongst other reasons). [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 04:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

::At the instruction page for the infobox [[:Template:Infobox_academic#influences]], it says that influences must be referenced, so you're right about redlinks being allowed. But it also says that the connection should be mentioned in the article body. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 04:09, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure why that would warrant removal (given that Wikipedia articles are always [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a work in progress|works in progress]]), but regardless, it's mentioned in the body of the article now. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 04:27, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

== Marriage template ==

Hello, at [[Seán O'Casey]] again, I've just [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Se%C3%A1n_O%27Casey&diff=884297213&oldid=873742326 tweaked your edit] to the marriage info, per the documentation at the {{tl|marriage}} template. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 05:07, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Graham87}} Which part of the documentation are you referring to? All I see is it saying that that parameter is to be used only "if the marriage ended on the death of the spouse", not the death of the subject. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 05:17, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
::Oops, you're right; I've self-reverted. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 06:12, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

==Recent edit to [[Yes California]]==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! &#8213;[[User:Susmuffin|<span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Susmuffin'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Susmuffin|<sup><span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Talk'''''</span></sup>]] 17:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Susmuffin}} Better in what regard? And how do you reconcile that position with [[MOS:DASH]]? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 21:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::From what I can tell, your edit made no change to the article; &ndash; and – appear to be the same symbol. The style guide seems to use both interchangeably. &#8213;[[User:Susmuffin|<span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Susmuffin'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Susmuffin|<sup><span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Talk'''''</span></sup>]] 22:10, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Susmuffin}} I think you are misreading the edit. Nowhere did it use the code <code><nowiki>&amp;ndash;</nowiki></code>. It merely added a non-breaking space in accordance with the MOS. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 00:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I think I understand it now. &#8213;[[User:Susmuffin|<span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Susmuffin'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Susmuffin|<sup><span style="color:#8B008B;">'''''Talk'''''</span></sup>]] 01:51, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

==Talkback==
{{talkback|Template talk:Ontario MPP biography|Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2019|ts=12:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)}}
—&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 12:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

== Jeff Immelt‎ ==

My bad, I was trying to rush and didn't realize what'd happened. [[User:Markvs88|Markvs88]] ([[User talk:Markvs88|talk]]) 01:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

== Please see link ==

*See [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Requests by 142.160.89.97]].
**After the amount of editing that you have done (see [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97]]), it would help if you register as a Wikipedia user and get yourself a [[WP:username|username]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 06:25, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
*{{u|Anthony Appleyard}}: bundling these together is probably wise as they are all by the same nominator with similar rationales, but I've refactored it as a multi-move RM request at [[Talk:The Rushdie Affair: The Novel, the Ayatollah, and the West|here]], as [[WP:RMT|technical requests]] isn't usually a place for extended discussion.  '''<span style="font-family: Arial">[[User:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: red">SITH</span>]] [[User talk:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: blue">(talk)</span>]]</span>''' 14:06, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

== [[Alaa Salah]] ==

Thanks for the heads up. I was on "autopilot" given recent edits... Just wondering, though, there are 12 articles directly linked in this category, why specifically this one was removed? Cheers. <sub>pseudonym</sub> [[User:Jake Brockman|Jake Brockman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jake Brockman|talk]]</sup> 07:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
:It just happened to be the one I came across. The others are due for removal as well, though. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 07:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

== May 2019 ==
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== Queried move request ==

*See [[Talk:Robert Balgarnie Young Scott#Requested move 8 May 2019]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 04:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

== RM/TR use ==

I do not think it is appropriate to re-request a move of [[Counter-Revolutionary Violence: Bloodbaths in Fact & Propaganda]] to {{-r|Counter-Revolutionary Violence}}, when a September 2018 RM decided the article should be at the long title. Can you explain why you filed this request again at RM/TR as uncontroversial? '''[[User:Sam Sailor|Sam]] [[User talk:Sam Sailor|Sailor]]''' 06:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC) {{ppor}}

==New message from Newslinger==
{{talkback|Talk:Bernie Sanders|Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 May 2019|ts=05:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)}}
—&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 05:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

== Please see link ==
*See [[Talk:Major James Coldwell#Requested move 26 May 2019]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 15:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
*See [[Talk:Lloyd N. Trefethen#Requested move 31 May 2019]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 04:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

== May 2019 ==
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:{{u|Orville1974}} Your edit summary indicates I "introduced a typo". Where is that? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 00:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
::Hi!  Sorry about that. I've already replaced your edit.  My English-centric brain saw philosophe and wanted to incorrectly add an "r" to it. <b>[[User:Orville1974|<span style="color: darkred;">Orville1974</span>]]</b> ([[User talk:Orville1974|talk]]) 00:05, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

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:{{ping|CLCStudent}} What leads you to believe the edit was vandalistic? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 19:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Charles William Gray Taylor ==

You have removed the "Very Reverend" style from the CWG Taylor page without explanation. Would you care to explain your approach?[[User:George Burgess|George Burgess]] ([[User talk:George Burgess|talk]]) 09:50, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{tps|g}} My answer is not intended to replace that of 142.160.89.97, but since I noticed the message: it may have to do with [[MOS:HONORIFIC]]...  —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 10:19, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|George Burgess}} Yep, {{u|PaleoNeonate}} is exactly right. [[MOS:HONORIFIC]] provides: {{tq|In general, [[honorific prefixes]]&nbsp;– styles and honorifics in front of a name&nbsp;– [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|in Wikipedia's own voice]] should not be included, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to&nbsp;... styles and honorifics related to royalty, clergy, and sainthood, such as [[Majesty|Her Majesty]], [[His Holiness]], [[The Reverend]], and [[The Venerable]].}} However, it appears an infobox has been added to the article where the style's use is appropriate. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 02:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

== June 2019 ==
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:{{ping|Me-123567-Me}} What leads you to believe that to have been a test edit? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 19:59, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== Talk: Mary, mother of Jesus ==

Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mary,_mother_of_Jesus&diff=900717587&oldid=900717345 this edit]:<br>
Because if we force a talkpage to keep 4 sections ''just'' to retain a Table of Contents and one of those sections is 6 months old with no responses then what purpose does keeping that outdated stale post/thread serve? Also not sure why it was necessary to remove the TOC which would have ketp a Table of Contents on the talkpage if/when the page goes down to two posts/threads. Reverting the talkpage-header style of archive-notice back to the small archive notice-box is a personal/stylistic preference - I prefer the header-style but again...personal preference. [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink|talk]]) 08:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{tq|Because if we force a talkpage to keep 4 sections ''just'' to retain a Table of Contents and one of those sections is 6 months old with no responses then what purpose does keeping that outdated stale post/thread serve?}} If the talk page discussion is that slow, it may require a few months for someone to reply.
:{{tq|Also not sure why it was necessary to remove the TOC which would have ketp a Table of Contents on the talkpage if/when the page goes down to two posts/threads.}} Given that the edit also required the bot to leave four sections on the page, the TOC [[help:magic words|magic words]] were not needed. Also, a TOC is of minimal utility at best when there are only two or three sections on the page.
:{{tq|Reverting the talkpage-header style of archive-notice back to the small archive notice-box is a personal/stylistic preference - I prefer the header-style but again...personal preference.}} I mainly did that because of the large number of headers already there, so I figured it would minimize clutter. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 20:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Mortara case]] edits ==

Was wondering why you converted 5 Harvard cites into cite web/cite magazine/cite news with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortara_case&diff=next&oldid=900834904 this edit]. Thanks, [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink|talk]]) 03:12, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
:Sorry, I should have explained. The sources were strangely broken up into "Newspaper and journal articles", "External references" (which I think all references are), and the rest of the "Bibliography", so I put the major works and journal articles together, and left references to the few newspaper articles and the like in the footnotes. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 20:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

=== Spelling ===

Why do you consider it obligatory or desirable to use what you call "Oxford spelling"? If I'm not mistaken, everyone wrote "baptized" before about 1900, and it is still standard among many English-speaking people. [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] ([[User talk:Michael Hardy|talk]]) 21:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

== Please see link ==
*Please see [[User talk:Anthony Appleyard#M. J. Coldwell and A. A. Heaps]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 05:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
*Please see [[User talk:Anthony Appleyard#M. J. Coldwell and A. A. Heaps]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 08:52, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

== Post-noms ==

Just stop. Please. If an article has been using 100% and commas, please don't try and "correct" this: your not. Its one of two options for formatting post-noms as per [[WP:POSTNOMS]]. I'm not changing the formatting unless its to restore to that which has been used in that article, please only do the same. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  03:09, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
: Its not about first use of a template, its about the historical formatting on a particular article. You may or may not have noticed I am trying to discuss this with you, as I have a number of times above. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  03:25, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::What is your source for that? [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::: Hello, for what bit? [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  03:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::::{{tq|Its not about first use of a template, its about the historical formatting on a particular article.}} [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::::: If we follow the definition of consistency (that's the word I was looking for) as established with [[MOS:NUM]]: {{quote|Where this manual provides options, '''consistency should be maintained within an article unless there is a good reason to do otherwise'''. The Arbitration Committee has ruled that editors should not change an article from one guideline-defined style to another without a substantial reason unrelated to mere choice of style, and that revert-warring over optional styles is unacceptable. If discussion cannot determine which style to use in an article, '''defer to the style used by the first major contributor'''.}}
::::: Which I think we should, and was probably discussed elsewhere but I don't keep notes, because post-nominal formatting is established in the MOS at [[WP:MOS]]. I hope that's the type of reference you were looking for, [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  03:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::I'm not sure that I understand the applicability of [[MOS:NUM]], which applies to dates and numbers. [[Special:Contributions/142.160.89.97|142.160.89.97]] ([[User talk:142.160.89.97#top|talk]]) 03:50, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::: No, its not just to MOS:NUM. As per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Sortan#Principles this request for arbitration]: {{quote|Wikipedia does not mandate styles in many different areas; these include (but are not limited to) American vs. British spelling, date formats, and citation style. Where Wikipedia does not mandate a specific style, editors should not attempt to convert Wikipedia to their own preferred style, nor should they edit articles for the sole purpose of converting them to their preferred style, or removing examples of, or references to, styles which they dislike. }} 
::::::: Hence the {{tq|The Arbitration Committee has ruled that editors should not change an article '''from one guideline-defined style to another''' without a substantial reason unrelated to mere choice of style}} of the quote above and on the MOS:NUM page: there are multiple MOS-defined styles covering numbers, dates, language, and (on a much smaller scale) post-nom formatting. The {{tq|this manual}} of the first quote refers to the whole MOS not just the numbers section. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  03:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::: Ps, Its the same for references, as at [[WP:CITEVAR]]. [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]] <sup>[[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  04:07, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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