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	::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::::::::Now finished. All incoming links now point to the correct article (mostly Ghent, sometimes the magazine Gent). [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 11:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)		:::::::::Now finished. All incoming links now point to the correct article (mostly Ghent, sometimes the magazine Gent). [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 11:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

			== Added city disambig link ==

			I've added a link at the top for the city. Readers are likely to search for info on the town and not even know that there's a different spelling in English. As it was, the link to the Belgian city was buried, so this will make it easier for folks to get to where they need to go. -[[Special:Contributions/79.234.61.36\|79.234.61.36]] ([[User talk:79.234.61.36\|talk]]) 22:31, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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	::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
			:::::::::Now finished. All incoming links now point to the correct article (mostly Ghent, sometimes the magazine Gent). [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 11:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Foroa: /* Should the article about the city be called Gent or Ghent? */

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Should the article about the city be called Gent or Ghent?

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	:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
			::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Foroa: /* Should the article about the city be called Gent or Ghent? */

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Should the article about the city be called Gent or Ghent?

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	:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
			::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

KF at 05:41, 6 February 2008

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	::::::As for Gent: I haven't checked, but if it clear from the incoming links that a large majority of the times Ghent is intended, then it may indeed be better to redirect Gent here and to create a Gent (disambiguation). However, this should be discussed at [[Gent]], not here. [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 20:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::As for Gent: I haven't checked, but if it clear from the incoming links that a large majority of the times Ghent is intended, then it may indeed be better to redirect Gent here and to create a Gent (disambiguation). However, this should be discussed at [[Gent]], not here. [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 20:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

	:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent''~~? Also, if the above is correct, then the line~~ in ~~''this''~~ ~~disambiguation~~ ~~page~~ ~~must be corrected.~~ [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

KF at 05:40, 6 February 2008

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	== Should the article about the city be called ''Gent'' or ''Ghent''? ==		== Should the article about the city be called ''Gent'' or ''Ghent''? ==

	(originally at [[Talk:Ghent]]		(originally at [[Talk:Ghent]])

	As the city is in the Flemish part of Belgium, should the article use the Flemish not the French name?		As the city is in the Flemish part of Belgium, should the article use the Flemish not the French name?

KF: on the possible creation of Gent (disambiguation)

2008-02-06T05:39:46Z

on the possible creation of Gent (disambiguation)

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== Should the article about the city be called ''Gent'' or ''Ghent''? ==

(originally at [[Talk:Ghent]]

As the city is in the Flemish part of Belgium, should the article use the Flemish not the French name?

:Ghent is the English name. The French name would be Gand...

::Although Ghent may be the name known outside Belgium historically, visitors to Belgium will now see it being refered to primarily by its Flemish name.

:::I was about to disambiguate [[Gent]] but I'm not going to now realising that there are [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent|countless links]] to the "wrong" spelling. However, the town's name is spelled ''Gent'' in both the [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gent German] and the [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gent Dutch] Wikipedia. [[User:KF|<K]][[User talk:KF|F>]] 22:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::::Yep, because the city is called "Gent" inboth the German and Dutch language. It is called "Gante" in the Asturian and Spanish Wikipedias, "Gand" in the French Wikipedia, and "Gandavum" in the Latin Wikipedia, since that is the name for the city in these langauges. The article should definitely be called "Ghent", not "Gent", on the English Wikipedia (with "Gent" as a logical and necessary redirect of course). [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 09:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:::::Fine with me. However, I seem to be a bit slow on the uptake. Does that mean that ''Gent'' is Dutch and ''Ghent'' is [[Flemish (linguistics)|Flemish]]?
:::::If so—in other words, if cities have their entries under the name used by their respective inhabitants—wouldn't, say, [[Rome]] have to be at [[Roma]]? Or is ''Ghent'' the correct ''English'' spelling as well?
:::::My main concern, however, is all those contributors who spell the city [[Gent]] and link it like this in their articles. There are so many links of that kind that it would be a tough job going through them all and correcting ''Gent'' to ''Ghent''. The other alternative (which, I suppose, you have referred to) would be to move the [[Gent]] disambiguation page to [[Gent (disambiguation)]] and actually turn [[Gent]] into a redirect to [[Ghent]].
:::::What do you think? [[User:KF|<K]][[User talk:KF|F>]] 17:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

::::::I seem to have expressed myself not clear enough. The article on Ghent is placed at the name used for it language X in the X Wikipedia. The Dutch (Flemish) and German name for Ghent is Gent, so the article is there at ''Gent''. The Spanish name for Ghent is Ganda, and the Spanish Wikipedia has an article "Ganda". The French article is at "Gand". So cities have their article under the name used in the language of the Wikipedia (i.c. English), and not under the name used by the inhabitants.
::::::As for Gent: I haven't checked, but if it clear from the incoming links that a large majority of the times Ghent is intended, then it may indeed be better to redirect Gent here and to create a Gent (disambiguation). However, this should be discussed at [[Gent]], not here. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 20:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent''? Also, if the above is correct, then the line in ''this'' disambiguation page must be corrected. [[User:KF|<K]][[User talk:KF|F>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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	::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
			:::::::::Now finished. All incoming links now point to the correct article (mostly Ghent, sometimes the magazine Gent). [[User:Fram\|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram\|talk]]) 11:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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	:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		:::::::Okay. Comments, please. And there are still a few things I don't understand. If ''Ghent'' is the English spelling, why do so many people (in other articles) use ''Gent'' in an English language encyclopaedia? [[User:KF\|<span style="color:#006600"><K</span>]][[User talk:KF\|<span style="color:#006600">F></span>]] 05:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::::::::For the same reason that Austrian people, when writing articles about Austria, will quite naturally make reference to Wien and not Vienna (for smaller cities, people are even more sensitive for the endonym/local name). If you look at the [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gent]] page, you will see that there are only 70 to 80 links to Gent that should be Ghent, so correcting them might be the fastest way out. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
			::::::::Mosly done by fram. 15 or so links left over to be corrected. --[[User:Foroa\|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa\|talk]]) 17:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)