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	== Trivia ==

	In the protest song Fast Cars from 1977 the english punk band Buzzcocks sings „Sooner or later you're gonna listen to Ralph Nader". [[User:Copyflow\|Copyflow]] ([[User talk:Copyflow\|talk]]) 05:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

	:Also, Nader is mentioned in Greg Bear's science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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	== Add a Controversies Page ==		== Add a Controversies Page ==

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	:Also, Nader is mentioned in Greg Bear's science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)		:Also, Nader is mentioned in Greg Bear's science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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	== Professional designation ==

	Is it fair to describe him first and foremost as a “perennial presidential candidate,” as opposed to political activist or author? It’s not a meaningful professional designation, and his presidential campaigns were clearly an offshoot of his political activism. I suggest changing the opening sentence to “Ralph Nader (/ˈneɪdər/; born February 27, 1934) is an American political activist, author, lecturer, attorney, and perennial presidential candidate noted for his involvement in consumer protection, environmentalism, and government reform causes.” The designations may also be ordered alphabetically, it that’s more neutral. [[Special:Contributions/103.211.18.21\|103.211.18.21]] ([[User talk:103.211.18.21\|talk]]) 09:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Is it fair to describe him first and foremost as a “perennial presidential candidate,” as opposed to political activist or author? It’s not a meaningful professional designation, and his presidential campaigns were clearly an offshoot of his political activism. I suggest changing the opening sentence to “Ralph Nader (/ˈneɪdər/; born February 27, 1934) is an American political activist, author, lecturer, attorney, and perennial presidential candidate noted for his involvement in consumer protection, environmentalism, and government reform causes.” The designations may also be ordered alphabetically, it that’s more neutral. [[Special:Contributions/103.211.18.21\|103.211.18.21]] ([[User talk:103.211.18.21\|talk]]) 09:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)		Is it fair to describe him first and foremost as a “perennial presidential candidate,” as opposed to political activist or author? It’s not a meaningful professional designation, and his presidential campaigns were clearly an offshoot of his political activism. I suggest changing the opening sentence to “Ralph Nader (/ˈneɪdər/; born February 27, 1934) is an American political activist, author, lecturer, attorney, and perennial presidential candidate noted for his involvement in consumer protection, environmentalism, and government reform causes.” The designations may also be ordered alphabetically, it that’s more neutral. [[Special:Contributions/103.211.18.21\|103.211.18.21]] ([[User talk:103.211.18.21\|talk]]) 09:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

			== Add a Controversies Page ==

			Ralph Nader became a far more controversial figure from the 1970s onwards, and it wasn't just his presidential campaigns either.

			I will be general here and go into more detail if I get feedback from an Admin interested in getting more into the controversies I will list.


			1. In the 1982 Connecticut aenate election, he endorsed the Republican candidate Lowell Weicker against a former family friend in Democratic former Congressman Moffet, and Moffer blamed Nader for tipping the balance out of spite over a disagreement on a bill.

			2. Allegations that despite how much money he and his organizations had made, he often paid low wages and was incredibly vindictive towards anyone who left because they could not afford to work for him anymore.

			3. He has been said, by many associates ex-employees, and their families, to have been been very indicative, underhanded in regards to the operations and management of his agencies and charities.

			Here is a quick secondary Source on his Controversies.

			https://www.salon.com/2004/07/01/nader_jacobs/ [[User:BOBTHETOMATO42069\|BOBTHETOMATO42069]] ([[User talk:BOBTHETOMATO42069\|talk]]) 21:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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	:Also, Nader is mentioned in Greg Bear's science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)		:Also, Nader is mentioned in Greg Bear's science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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	Also, Nader is mentioned in [[Greg Bear]]'s science fiction books, Eon and Eternity, as having inspired the "Naderites" who oppose much of the technology in their high-technology society. Whether Bear intends this to honor Nader or as some form of irony is not at all clear. [[User:Wastrel Way\|Wastrel Way]] ([[User talk:Wastrel Way\|talk]]) 13:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC) Eric

	== Professional designation ==		== Professional designation ==