https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ASoFi Talk:SoFi - Revision history 2024-10-27T23:33:55Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.0-wmf.28 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1252116805&oldid=prev MikeBlom: /* Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." */ Improved readability 2024-10-19T21:31:42Z <p><span class="autocomment">Page move to &quot;SoFi Technologies, Inc.&quot;: </span> Improved readability</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:31, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 140:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 140:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think the page [[SoFi]] should be moved to "SoFi Technologies, Inc.". I had moved the page twice in the last 10 days, but @[[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] turned down both the page moves, citing two arguments: (a) [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], and (b) <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">disambiguation</del> <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">isn</del>'t <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">required</del> since [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]].</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think the page [[SoFi]] should be moved to "SoFi Technologies, Inc.". I had moved the page twice in the last 10 days, but @[[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] turned down both the page moves, citing two arguments: (a) [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|default to the most common name in case of a company</ins>]], and (b) <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the need to [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguate]]</ins> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">doesn</ins>'t <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">exist</ins> since [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]].</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not agree with arguments (a) and (b) for the following reasons.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not agree with arguments (a) and (b) for the following reasons.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,</del> not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the</del> rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]])</del>. The start of the [[SoFi]] page <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">also</del> <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">states</del> that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an even more</del> compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is</del> clear.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> --</ins> not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> perhaps</ins> not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|default to the most common name in case of a company</ins>]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> here</ins>, but instead use the most common exception mentioned in <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">this</ins> rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]]. The<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> need to disambiguate is also mentioned at the</ins> start of the [[SoFi]] page<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there is a remark</ins> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stating</ins> that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">another</ins> compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly,<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> I see</ins> the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to be</ins> clear.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">like</del> mentioned <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">earlier</del>, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as</ins> mentioned <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">above</ins>, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The current title SoFi is [[:WP:CONCISE|concise]], [[:WP:UCRN|widely recognized]], and unambiguous. Since no one refers to SoFi Stadium as simply "SoFi", there is no reason to disambiguate (the same way that [[:MetLife Stadium]] and [[:MetLife Building]] have more page hits than [[:MetLife]], doesn't mean MetLife requires disambiguation). Regarding [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], there's nothing on its page that suggests the consultancy is also called "SoFi"; even if that low activity page is called that, we have the mutual hatnotes for it, [[:WP:ONEOTHER|without the need to disambiguate]]. [[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] ([[User talk:Ptrnext|talk]]) 21:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The current title SoFi is [[:WP:CONCISE|concise]], [[:WP:UCRN|widely recognized]], and unambiguous. Since no one refers to SoFi Stadium as simply "SoFi", there is no reason to disambiguate (the same way that [[:MetLife Stadium]] and [[:MetLife Building]] have more page hits than [[:MetLife]], doesn't mean MetLife requires disambiguation). Regarding [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], there's nothing on its page that suggests the consultancy is also called "SoFi"; even if that low activity page is called that, we have the mutual hatnotes for it, [[:WP:ONEOTHER|without the need to disambiguate]]. [[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] ([[User talk:Ptrnext|talk]]) 21:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1252115699&oldid=prev Ptrnext: /* Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." */ Reply 2024-10-19T21:23:53Z <p><span class="autocomment">Page move to &quot;SoFi Technologies, Inc.&quot;: </span> Reply</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:23, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 147:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 147:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The current title SoFi is [[:WP:CONCISE|concise]], [[:WP:UCRN|widely recognized]], and unambiguous. Since no one refers to SoFi Stadium as simply "SoFi", there is no reason to disambiguate (the same way that [[:MetLife Stadium]] and [[:MetLife Building]] have more page hits than [[:MetLife]], doesn't mean MetLife requires disambiguation). Regarding [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], there's nothing on its page that suggests the consultancy is also called "SoFi"; even if that low activity page is called that, we have the mutual hatnotes for it, [[:WP:ONEOTHER|without the need to disambiguate]]. [[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] ([[User talk:Ptrnext|talk]]) 21:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Ptrnext https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1252006332&oldid=prev MikeBlom: /* Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." */ Punctuation fix 2024-10-19T08:00:51Z <p><span class="autocomment">Page move to &quot;SoFi Technologies, Inc.&quot;: </span> Punctuation fix</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:00, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 146:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 146:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in the rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]] ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]]). The start of the [[SoFi]] page also states that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is an even more compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] is clear.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in the rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]] ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]]). The start of the [[SoFi]] page also states that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is an even more compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] is clear.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,</del> [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]) shows that [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1252006280&oldid=prev MikeBlom: /* Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." */ Grammar fix 2024-10-19T08:00:23Z <p><span class="autocomment">Page move to &quot;SoFi Technologies, Inc.&quot;: </span> Grammar fix</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:00, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 146:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 146:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in the rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]] ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]]). The start of the [[SoFi]] page also states that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is an even more compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] is clear.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in the rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]] ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]]). The start of the [[SoFi]] page also states that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is an even more compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] is clear.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]])<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> shows that</ins>, [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1252005893&oldid=prev MikeBlom: /* Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." */ new section 2024-10-19T07:56:54Z <p><span class="autocomment">Page move to &quot;SoFi Technologies, Inc.&quot;: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:56, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 137:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 137:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I can't find one, and I'm curious on the rationale for even wanting it in the article. &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]&lt;/sub&gt; 22:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I can't find one, and I'm curious on the rationale for even wanting it in the article. &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]&lt;/sub&gt; 22:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::They do when the rates are exorbitant (eg [[Wonga.com]]) and because my heart is a tiny black apple of cynicism I expect a supposedly exciting new company backed by Peter Thiel to be doing something shady. [[User:Pinkbeast|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast|talk]]) 17:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::They do when the rates are exorbitant (eg [[Wonga.com]]) and because my heart is a tiny black apple of cynicism I expect a supposedly exciting new company backed by Peter Thiel to be doing something shady. [[User:Pinkbeast|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast|talk]]) 17:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Page move to "SoFi Technologies, Inc." ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think the page [[SoFi]] should be moved to "SoFi Technologies, Inc.". I had moved the page twice in the last 10 days, but @[[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] turned down both the page moves, citing two arguments: (a) [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], and (b) disambiguation isn't required since [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]].</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not agree with arguments (a) and (b) for the following reasons.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (a), I see that see that "SoFi" is the common name for both [[SoFi]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]], not just [[SoFi]]. This suggests that we should not use the Wikipedia rule [[WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name]], but instead use the most common exception mentioned in the rule, which is [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)#Disambiguation|disambiguation]] ([[WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation]]). The start of the [[SoFi]] page also states that the topic is not to be confused with the non-profit consultancy organization [[Social Finance (consultancy)]]. Moreover, there is an even more compelling case for disambiguating [[SoFi]], since we also have [[SoFi Stadium]]. Here, as seen from [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&amp;title=SoFi WikiNav] (suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. Accordingly, the need to disambiguate [[SoFi]] from both [[SoFi Stadium]] and [[Social Finance (consultancy)]] is clear.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Regarding (b), I disagree the assertion that [[SoFi]] is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. That's because, like mentioned earlier, a search on WikiNav (as suggested on [[Wikipedia:DETERMINEPRIMARY]]), [[SoFi Stadium]] has 72.3k incoming pageviews over September 2024, whereas [[SoFi]] has a much lower 16.4k incoming pageviews. [[User:Vazival|Vazival]] ([[User talk:Vazival|talk]]) 07:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1251988239&oldid=prev Ptrnext: Ptrnext moved page Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc. to Talk:SoFi over redirect: please read WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name (discuss on talk instead of move warring) 2024-10-19T05:40:41Z <p>Ptrnext moved page <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi_Technologies,_Inc." class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.">Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi" title="Talk:SoFi">Talk:SoFi</a> over redirect: please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCCORP#Default_to_the_most_common_name" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCCORP">WP:NCCORP#Default to the most common name</a> (discuss on talk instead of move warring)</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:40, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table> Ptrnext https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1251983452&oldid=prev MikeBlom: Vazival moved page Talk:SoFi to Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc. over redirect: Add parentheses/disambiguator: WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation. In particular, the term "SoFi" is an abbreviation for "Social Finance", as said in the History section of this article. It is therefore important that "SoFi" from this article is not confused with the non-profit consultancy organization "Social Finance (consultancy)", as advised at the start of the article. The requested page... 2024-10-19T04:58:01Z <p>Vazival moved page <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi" title="Talk:SoFi">Talk:SoFi</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi_Technologies,_Inc." class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.">Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.</a> over redirect: Add parentheses/disambiguator: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)">WP:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation</a>. In particular, the term &quot;SoFi&quot; is an abbreviation for &quot;Social Finance&quot;, as said in the History section of this article. It is therefore important that &quot;SoFi&quot; from this article is not confused with the non-profit consultancy organization &quot;Social Finance (consultancy)&quot;, as advised at the start of the article. The requested page...</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:58, 19 October 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1251815181&oldid=prev Ptrnext: Ptrnext moved page Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc. to Talk:SoFi over redirect: undo page move (there is nothing to disambiguate here) 2024-10-18T06:43:47Z <p>Ptrnext moved page <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi_Technologies,_Inc." class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.">Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi" title="Talk:SoFi">Talk:SoFi</a> over redirect: undo page move (there is nothing to disambiguate here)</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:43, 18 October 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table> Ptrnext https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1250526750&oldid=prev MikeBlom: Vazival moved page Talk:SoFi to Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.: Wikipedia: Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation 2024-10-10T23:31:13Z <p>Vazival moved page <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi" title="Talk:SoFi">Talk:SoFi</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:SoFi_Technologies,_Inc." class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.">Talk:SoFi Technologies, Inc.</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies)">Wikipedia: Naming_conventions_(companies)#Disambiguation</a></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:31, 10 October 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table> MikeBlom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:SoFi&diff=1212001555&oldid=prev Pinkbeast: /* APR */ 2024-03-05T17:50:02Z <p><span class="autocomment">APR</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:50, 5 March 2024</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 136:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 136:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Do any bank or loan company articles do this? [[User:Largoplazo|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Do any bank or loan company articles do this? [[User:Largoplazo|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I can't find one, and I'm curious on the rationale for even wanting it in the article. &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]&lt;/sub&gt; 22:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I can't find one, and I'm curious on the rationale for even wanting it in the article. &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]&lt;/sub&gt; 22:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::They do when the rates are exorbitant (eg [[Wonga.com]]) and because my heart is a tiny black apple of cynicism I expect a supposedly exciting new company backed by Peter Thiel to be doing something shady. [[User:Pinkbeast|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast|talk]]) 17:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Pinkbeast