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	It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.		It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.

	Troccas players use [[Swiss Tarot]] packs, sometimes called "[[Swiss Tarot\|1JJ]]" or "Jupiter and Juno" packs because they substitute ''Jupiter'' and ''Juno'' for the Pope and Papess of the [[Tarot of Marseilles]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Dummett\|first=Michael\|title=The Game of Tarot\|year=1980\|publisher=Duckworth\|isbn=0 7156 1014 7\|page=218}}</ref> The deck's captions are usually in French or German, but a version with English captions has been published.		Troccas players use [[Swiss Tarot]] packs, sometimes called "[[Swiss Tarot\|1JJ]]" or "Jupiter and Juno" packs because they substitute ''Jupiter'' and ''Juno'' for the Pope and Papess of the [[Tarot of Marseilles]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Dummett\|first=Michael\|title=The Game of Tarot\|year=1980\|publisher=Duckworth\|isbn=0-7156-1014-7\|page=218}}</ref> The deck's captions are usually in French or German, but a version with English captions has been published.

	== The cards ==		== The cards ==

Bermicourt: "their" is confusing as it could refer to the other players

2023-11-11T19:32:06Z

"their" is confusing as it could refer to the other players

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	Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are counterclockwise. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.		Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are counterclockwise. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.

	Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two, ~~giving~~ ~~them~~ a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.		Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two; thus having a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.

	A team that is losing by at least nine points may request that the deal be in packets of nine and ten, with dealer taking twelve; a team losing by at least eighteen points may request that the deal be in a single packet each (nineteen cards and twenty-one for the dealer).		A team that is losing by at least nine points may request that the deal be in packets of nine and ten, with dealer taking twelve; a team losing by at least eighteen points may request that the deal be in a single packet each (nineteen cards and twenty-one for the dealer).
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	The Fool can be played in any trick. It excuses the player from following suit. If the side that wins the trick did not play the Fool, they must return it to their opponents, in exchange for a one-point card. If the Fool leads a trick, the next player's card determines the trick's suit. The Fool can only be lost if the player's side fails to win any tricks.		The Fool can be played in any trick. It excuses the player from following suit. If the side that wins the trick did not play the Fool, they must return it to their opponents, in exchange for a one-point card. If the Fool leads a trick, the next player's card determines the trick's suit. The Fool can only be lost if the player's side fails to win any tricks.

	The most distinguishing aspect of Troccas which separates it from other tarot games is a rule involving the king and jack of each suit. When a suit is led for the first time and that suit's king is played in it, whoever wins that trick can demand that the jack of that suit be surrendered (if it hasn't already been played). The jack's owner takes back ~~their~~ original card and exchanges it with the jack unless they had played the queen, cavalier, or the Fool. If the player who played the king also held the jack, they can play both cards together. After the trick, they can demand a card of the same suit from the other players. This rule has no effect if the jack was one of the two cards discarded by the dealer.		The most distinguishing aspect of Troccas which separates it from other tarot games is a rule involving the king and jack of each suit. When a suit is led for the first time and that suit's king is played in it, whoever wins that trick can demand that the jack of that suit be surrendered (if it hasn't already been played). The jack's owner takes back his or her original card and exchanges it with the jack unless they had played the queen, cavalier, or the Fool. If the player who played the king also held the jack, they can play both cards together. After the trick, they can demand a card of the same suit from the other players. This rule has no effect if the jack was one of the two cards discarded by the dealer.

	In some regions, a player with the highest unplayed trump can let ~~their~~ partner know by knocking on the table.		In some regions, a player with the highest unplayed trump can let the partner know by knocking on the table.

	== Scoring ==		== Scoring ==

Bermicourt: Swiss Tarot is the name recommended by the IPCS

2023-11-11T19:29:30Z

Swiss Tarot is the name recommended by the IPCS

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	{{Short description\|Tarot card game}}		{{Short description\|Tarot card game}}
	{{Expand German\|Troccas\|date=March 2009}}		{{Expand German\|Troccas\|date=March 2009}}
	[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned ~~1JJ~~ ~~deck~~]]		[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned Swiss Tarot pack]]
	'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].		'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].
	It is a four player game played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].		It is a four player game played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].
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	== The cards ==		== The cards ==

	The 78-card [[Swiss Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss ~~1JJ~~ ~~uses~~ [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.		The 78-card [[Swiss Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss Tarot packs use [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

	~~1JJ~~ cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.		Swiss Tarot cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.

	== Card points ==		== Card points ==

Bermicourt: m

2023-11-11T19:28:37Z

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	== The cards ==		== The cards ==

	The 78-card [[Swiss ~~1JJ~~ Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss 1JJ uses [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.		The 78-card [[Swiss Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss 1JJ uses [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

	1JJ cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.		1JJ cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.

Bermicourt: m

2023-11-11T19:28:29Z

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	It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.		It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.

	Troccas ~~decks~~ ~~are~~ sometimes called "[[Swiss ~~1JJ~~ Tarot\|1JJ]]" or "Jupiter and Juno" ~~decks~~ because they substitute ''Jupiter'' and ''Juno'' for the Pope and Papess of the [[Tarot of Marseilles]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Dummett\|first=Michael\|title=The Game of Tarot\|year=1980\|publisher=Duckworth\|isbn=0 7156 1014 7\|page=218}}</ref> The deck's captions are usually in French or German, but a version with English captions has been published.		Troccas players use [[Swiss Tarot]] packs, sometimes called "[[Swiss Tarot\|1JJ]]" or "Jupiter and Juno" packs because they substitute ''Jupiter'' and ''Juno'' for the Pope and Papess of the [[Tarot of Marseilles]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Dummett\|first=Michael\|title=The Game of Tarot\|year=1980\|publisher=Duckworth\|isbn=0 7156 1014 7\|page=218}}</ref> The deck's captions are usually in French or German, but a version with English captions has been published.

	== The cards ==		== The cards ==

Ianbrettcooper at 15:51, 3 January 2023

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	[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned 1JJ deck]]		[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned 1JJ deck]]
	'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].		'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].
	It is played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].		It is a four player game played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].
	It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.		It is not known exactly how this game entered Switzerland but it is generally thought to have arrived from [[Italy]] during the 17th century.

Tom dl at 09:12, 4 August 2022

2022-08-04T09:12:07Z

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	Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are counterclockwise. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.		Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are counterclockwise. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.

	Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two, giving ~~him~~ a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.		Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two, giving them a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.

	A team that is losing by at least nine points may request that the deal be in packets of nine and ten, with dealer taking twelve; a team losing by at least eighteen points may request that the deal be in a single packet each (nineteen cards and twenty-one for the dealer).		A team that is losing by at least nine points may request that the deal be in packets of nine and ten, with dealer taking twelve; a team losing by at least eighteen points may request that the deal be in a single packet each (nineteen cards and twenty-one for the dealer).
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	After all cards are dealt, the dealer has the privilege of forcing a new hand to be dealt if ~~his~~ hand is void of trumps.		After all cards are dealt, the dealer has the privilege of forcing a new hand to be dealt if the dealer's hand is void of trumps.

	== Play ==		== Play ==
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	The Fool can be played in any trick. It excuses the player from following suit. If the side that wins the trick did not play the Fool, they must return it to their opponents, in exchange for a one-point card. If the Fool leads a trick, the next player's card determines the trick's suit. The Fool can only be lost if the player's side fails to win any tricks.		The Fool can be played in any trick. It excuses the player from following suit. If the side that wins the trick did not play the Fool, they must return it to their opponents, in exchange for a one-point card. If the Fool leads a trick, the next player's card determines the trick's suit. The Fool can only be lost if the player's side fails to win any tricks.

	The most distinguishing aspect of Troccas which separates it from other tarot games is a rule involving the king and jack of each suit. When a suit is led for the first time and that suit's king is played in it, whoever wins that trick can demand that the jack of that suit to be surrendered (if it hasn't already been played). The jack's owner takes back ~~his~~ original card and exchanges it with the jack unless he had played the queen, cavalier, or the Fool. If the player who played the king also held the jack, he can play both cards together. After the trick, he can demand a card of the same suit from the other players. This rule has no effect if the jack was one of the two cards discarded by the dealer.		The most distinguishing aspect of Troccas which separates it from other tarot games is a rule involving the king and jack of each suit. When a suit is led for the first time and that suit's king is played in it, whoever wins that trick can demand that the jack of that suit be surrendered (if it hasn't already been played). The jack's owner takes back their original card and exchanges it with the jack unless they had played the queen, cavalier, or the Fool. If the player who played the king also held the jack, they can play both cards together. After the trick, they can demand a card of the same suit from the other players. This rule has no effect if the jack was one of the two cards discarded by the dealer.

	In some regions, a player with the highest unplayed trump can let ~~his~~ partner know by knocking on the table.		In some regions, a player with the highest unplayed trump can let their partner know by knocking on the table.

	== Scoring ==		== Scoring ==

Mandarax: counterlockwise->counterclockwise - Fix a typo in one click

2022-07-05T22:23:38Z

counterlockwise->counterclockwise - Fix a typo in one click

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	== The deal ==		== The deal ==

	Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are ~~counterlockwise~~. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.		Before the game starts, each player cuts for trump. The two highest and the two lowest form partnerships. The dealing and play are counterclockwise. Traditionally, the deck is cut and not shuffled.

	Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two, giving him a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.		Each player is given nineteen cards; Dealer takes the last two, giving him a hand of twenty-two cards. The last card dealt to each player is traditionally turned up. Usually, the cards are dealt in packets of six, six, and seven, with dealer taking the last nine.

Alarics: /* Card points */ at the end of the game

2021-12-01T10:55:57Z

Card points: at the end of the game

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	== Card points ==		== Card points ==

	At the end of the ~~play~~, cards are counted in groups of four, subtracting three points for each group. The dealer (in [[Romansh language\|Romansh]], ''scartist'') will have two odd cards, counting for combined value, minus one point. The full deck totals 72 points, and cards are worth the following: kings and honours (1 and 21 of trump, and the [[The Fool (Tarot card)\|Fool]]) five, queens four, cavaliers three, jacks two, everything else one.		At the end of the game, cards are counted in groups of four, subtracting three points for each group. The dealer (in [[Romansh language\|Romansh]], ''scartist'') will have two odd cards, counting for combined value, minus one point. The full deck totals 72 points, and cards are worth the following: kings and honours (1 and 21 of trump, and the [[The Fool (Tarot card)\|Fool]]) five, queens four, cavaliers three, jacks two, everything else one.

	== The deal ==		== The deal ==

85.193.252.19: Google Books: "At the end of the play" cards deck => 4590, "At the end of play" cards deck => 1320 As you can see "At the end of the play" is more common in the context of card games. As for theatrical production: "At the end of the play" theater stage => 278k, "At the end of play" theater stage => 9k So the only conclusion is that "At the end of the play" is very universal and much more common that "At the end of play", and the latter is very rare in theatrical production.

2021-12-01T02:24:07Z

Google Books: "At the end of the play" cards deck => 4590, "At the end of play" cards deck => 1320 As you can see "At the end of the play" is more common in the context of card games. As for theatrical production: "At the end of the play" theater stage => 278k, "At the end of play" theater stage => 9k So the only conclusion is that "At the end of the play" is very universal and much more common that "At the end of play", and the latter is very rare in theatrical production.

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	== Card points ==		== Card points ==

	At the end of play, cards are counted in groups of four, subtracting three points for each group. The dealer (in [[Romansh language\|Romansh]], ''scartist'') will have two odd cards, counting for combined value, minus one point. The full deck totals 72 points, and cards are worth the following: kings and honours (1 and 21 of trump, and the [[The Fool (Tarot card)\|Fool]]) five, queens four, cavaliers three, jacks two, everything else one.		At the end of the play, cards are counted in groups of four, subtracting three points for each group. The dealer (in [[Romansh language\|Romansh]], ''scartist'') will have two odd cards, counting for combined value, minus one point. The full deck totals 72 points, and cards are worth the following: kings and honours (1 and 21 of trump, and the [[The Fool (Tarot card)\|Fool]]) five, queens four, cavaliers three, jacks two, everything else one.

	== The deal ==		== The deal ==

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	{{Short description\|Tarot card game}}		{{Short description\|Tarot card game}}
	{{Expand German\|Troccas\|date=March 2009}}		{{Expand German\|Troccas\|date=March 2009}}
	[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned ~~1JJ~~ ~~deck~~]]		[[File:1JJ Tarot - Trump 21 - French - Le Monde.jpg\|thumb\|upright=0.6\|The World, the highest trump in a French captioned Swiss Tarot pack]]
	'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].		'''Troccas''' is a member of the [[Tarot card games\|Tarot family of card games]].
	It is a four player game played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].		It is a four player game played in the [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] speaking part of the canton [[Graubünden\|Grisons]] of [[Switzerland]].
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	== The cards ==		== The cards ==

	The 78-card [[Swiss Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss ~~1JJ~~ ~~uses~~ [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.		The 78-card [[Swiss Tarot]] is traditionally used but it can be substituted by a [[Tarot Nouveau]] deck. Swiss Tarot packs use [[Italian playing cards\|Italian suits]] (swords, sticks, cups, and coins) while Tarot Nouveau uses [[French playing cards\|French suits]]. Cards use traditional ranking, where red (or round) suits rank in reverse: K, Q, C, V, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

	~~1JJ~~ cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.		Swiss Tarot cards are referred to in the game by their [[Romansh language\|Romansh]] (Rhæto-Romanic) names, but bear legends in French or German. Troccas players prefer the French version as opposed to [[Troggu]] players who use the German version.

	== Card points ==		== Card points ==