Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dean McVeigh - Revision history

MalnadachBot: Fixed Lint errors. (Task 12)

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	*'''Keep''' and cleanup as above. [[User:203.153.200.204\|203.153.200.204]] 21:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC) (anonymous account — [[User:Xtra\|Xtra]] 23:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC))		*'''Keep''' and cleanup as above. [[User:203.153.200.204\|203.153.200.204]] 21:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC) (anonymous account — [[User:Xtra\|Xtra]] 23:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC))

	*'''Improve or Delete.''' This biographical article does not address the global importance of its subject. The article suggests that McVeigh is famous in Australia for performing a (presumably) multimillion-dollar financial transaction. The article does not give comprehensive details on the transaction. I think McVeigh can be characterized, at this point, as a ''major player in a single local news story''. <~~font~~ style="background: #000077" color="white"><b>Cdcon</b></~~font~~> 22:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)		*'''Improve or Delete.''' This biographical article does not address the global importance of its subject. The article suggests that McVeigh is famous in Australia for performing a (presumably) multimillion-dollar financial transaction. The article does not give comprehensive details on the transaction. I think McVeigh can be characterized, at this point, as a ''major player in a single local news story''. <span style="background: #000077; color:white;"><b>Cdcon</b></span> 22:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
	*'''Comment''': I haven't read this and have no vote but I strongly object to making anyone's comments small. Why stop at small - just change their font to junk so they can't be read at all! Très uncool. I've gone ahead and restored them to their former state. If people want their comments small, they can make them small. Admin's have full discretion to weigh the consensus however they want, including by how long the commenters have been users. —[[User:wknight94\|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94\|talk]]) 00:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)		*'''Comment''': I haven't read this and have no vote but I strongly object to making anyone's comments small. Why stop at small - just change their font to junk so they can't be read at all! Très uncool. I've gone ahead and restored them to their former state. If people want their comments small, they can make them small. Admin's have full discretion to weigh the consensus however they want, including by how long the commenters have been users. —[[User:wknight94\|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94\|talk]]) 00:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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	*<s>'''Delete''' as nn. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<~~font~~ ~~color~~="green">e]]</~~font~~>[[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 11:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)</s> Changed to '''keep''', after rewrite. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<~~font~~ ~~color~~="green">e]]</~~font~~>[[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 12:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)		*<s>'''Delete''' as nn. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 11:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)</s> Changed to '''keep''', after rewrite. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 12:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
	*<del>'''Delete'''</del>. Student politicians have to play ''somewhere'', but I for one would rather they stuck to near-incoherent rants on their weblogs and left Wikipedia out of it. [[WP:NOT]] a noticeboard for people who want to publicise their complaints and petty hatreds. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 11:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)		*<del>'''Delete'''</del>. Student politicians have to play ''somewhere'', but I for one would rather they stuck to near-incoherent rants on their weblogs and left Wikipedia out of it. [[WP:NOT]] a noticeboard for people who want to publicise their complaints and petty hatreds. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 11:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
	**Okay, Capitalistroadster has done some good work on this article. I'd like to note that it'll take some effort to keep the student pollies from getting their filthy paws all over this one, however, and it's work I'm not willing to do. Good luck to those who ''are'' willing to try to keep this article from degenerating. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 09:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)		**Okay, Capitalistroadster has done some good work on this article. I'd like to note that it'll take some effort to keep the student pollies from getting their filthy paws all over this one, however, and it's work I'm not willing to do. Good luck to those who ''are'' willing to try to keep this article from degenerating. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 09:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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	::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

	:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.</div>		:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.''</div>

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 :::::::Ambi's comments were not a personal attack. She was merely expressing her opinion. She doesn't think the guy is notable; I don't know what more of a "contribution" you expect. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 13:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 ::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::::::Ambi's comments were not a personal attack. She was merely expressing her opinion. She doesn't think the guy is notable; I don't know what more of a "contribution" you expect. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 13:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::::Ambi's comments were not a personal attack. She was merely expressing her opinion. She doesn't think the guy is notable; I don't know what more of a "contribution" you expect. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 13:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Sarah: adit Ambi's "personal attack"

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adit Ambi's "personal attack"

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	::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::Ambi's comments were not a personal attack. She was merely expressing her opinion. She doesn't think the guy is notable; I don't know what more of a "contribution" you expect. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 13:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Cursive: /* Dean McVeigh */

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Dean McVeigh

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	:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	: For any particular reason? Per a genuine debate. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		: For any particular reason? Per a genuine debate. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. To say nothing of the attempt to shut down critics' websites using contempt of court applications. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Sarah: re Darren

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re Darren

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	::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	*<s>'''Delete''' as nn. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<~~font~~ ~~color~~="green">e]]</~~font~~>[[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 11:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)</s> Changed to '''keep''', after rewrite. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<~~font~~ ~~color~~="green">e]]</~~font~~>[[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 12:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)		*<s>'''Delete''' as nn. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 11:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)</s> Changed to '''keep''', after rewrite. --[[User:Terenceong1992\|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza\|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terenceong1992\|nc]][[User talk:Terenceong1992\|e Ong]] 12:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
	*<del>'''Delete'''</del>. Student politicians have to play ''somewhere'', but I for one would rather they stuck to near-incoherent rants on their weblogs and left Wikipedia out of it. [[WP:NOT]] a noticeboard for people who want to publicise their complaints and petty hatreds. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 11:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)		*<del>'''Delete'''</del>. Student politicians have to play ''somewhere'', but I for one would rather they stuck to near-incoherent rants on their weblogs and left Wikipedia out of it. [[WP:NOT]] a noticeboard for people who want to publicise their complaints and petty hatreds. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 11:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
	**Okay, Capitalistroadster has done some good work on this article. I'd like to note that it'll take some effort to keep the student pollies from getting their filthy paws all over this one, however, and it's work I'm not willing to do. Good luck to those who ''are'' willing to try to keep this article from degenerating. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 09:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)		**Okay, Capitalistroadster has done some good work on this article. I'd like to note that it'll take some effort to keep the student pollies from getting their filthy paws all over this one, however, and it's work I'm not willing to do. Good luck to those who ''are'' willing to try to keep this article from degenerating. [[User:MarkGallagher\|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher\|fuddle me!]]) 09:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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	::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::::::I'd welcome a debate on the issues around his notability that I've raised. I may misunderstand the nature of this particular page and if I have I apologise in advance. But I think there such substantial evidence of his notability that there seems to be some reluctance. btw, if Sarah Ewart is your real name congratulations for editing without a pseudonym as so many do. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 14:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

	:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.</div>		:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review\|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.''</div>

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	:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::I've spent more than enough time on this AfD. I stand by my original comments, and disagree with your assertion about Ambi's assertions. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	: For any particular reason? Per a genuine debate. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		: For any particular reason? Per a genuine debate. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. To say nothing of the attempt to shut down critics' websites using contempt of court applications. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			::::::I accept your apology. Thank you, I'd be grateful for a response on the issues, because Ambi's assertions are a) false, b) a personal attack and c) not much of a contribution to the debate about the man's notability. [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::::Much better put than I managed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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	::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::Per Ambi: ''He's just a random insolvency practitioner who had the misfortune to run into some vengeful student politicians with a lot of time to spare''. Nothing has changed. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::: Hardly a random. Eminently notable on any objective test, notable in press articles, prominent events, especially MUSU but many other things. Very few Liquidators/Administrators are ever removed by a court for their conduct, this itself is highly noteworthy. I am neither a student politician nor do I have any time to spare. I would appreciate you withdrawing the personal implication. Nothing has changed from what? [[User:DarrenRay\|DarrenRay]] 12:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
			:::: What personal implication? There's nothing there stating that you're the student politician that is being referred to. Nothing has changed from what Ambi said (which I directly quoted). That's what I meant by saying "Per Ambi" - I assumed you thought that something had changed between when he said that and when I was agreeing with him and hence felt that my justification was invalid. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. [[User:Cursive\|Cursive]] 12:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
	::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)		::::I don't think you should take Cursive's application of Ambi's quote as a personal slight. I happen to agree with them and that isn't intended to be personally against you. You're being too sensitive, IMO. Specially when you ask people to explain themselves further. [[User:Sarah_Ewart\|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart\|Talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)