Hamont-Achel dialect: Revision history

31 October 2024

• curprev 18:3218:32, 31 October 2024 Monkbot talk contribs m 14,923 bytes +2 Task 20: replace {lang-??} templates with {langx|??} ‹See Tfd› (Replaced 2); undo Tag: AWB

11 November 2023

• curprev 07:3707:37, 11 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,921 bytes −20 <ɪ> -> <e> to better show that this vowel belongs to the close-mid series and it's the short counterpart of /eː/ undo

6 November 2023

• curprev 13:0513:05, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,941 bytes −30 →Consonants undo
• curprev 12:2112:21, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,971 bytes −12 →Consonants undo
• curprev 09:5809:58, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,983 bytes −3 →Consonants undo
• curprev 09:5809:58, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,986 bytes −26 No edit summary undo
• curprev 04:1704:17, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,012 bytes +34 per Maastrichtian dialect phonology, this is an equally valid transcription and it's simpler undo
• curprev 04:1404:14, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,978 bytes +741 consistency regarding the transcription of the bilabial approximant (see e.g. Maastrichtian dialect phonology) Coda /w/ is NOT just bilabial, it'd sound like a non-syllabic [ʉ̯] which is not how it sounds undo Tag: harv-error
• curprev 03:3403:34, 6 November 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,237 bytes −1 Limburgish IPA fix before publishing the IPA guide undo

30 July 2023

• curprev 21:1421:14, 30 July 2023 Nardog talk contribs 14,238 bytes 0 Restored revision 1165009542 by Sol505000 (talk): See Talk:Standard German phonology#Final-obstruent devoicing is not phonemic? undo Tags: Twinkle Undo

27 July 2023

• curprev 20:1620:16, 27 July 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,238 bytes 0 →Prosody: final-obstruent devoicing is phonetic, not phonemic undo Tag: Reverted

12 July 2023

• curprev 12:1512:15, 12 July 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,238 bytes −5 →Monophthongs undo
• curprev 12:1512:15, 12 July 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,243 bytes +5 →Monophthongs undo
• curprev 12:1512:15, 12 July 2023 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,238 bytes −178 →Monophthongs: it is not. the front vowels are near open, check the formant chart in the source undo

20 October 2022

• curprev 10:2310:23, 20 October 2022 Citation bot talk contribs 14,416 bytes +17 Add: s2cid. | Use this bot. Report bugs. | Suggested by Whoop whoop pull up | #UCB_webform 1443/3467 undo

13 August 2022

• curprev 00:5200:52, 13 August 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,399 bytes −41 it's only in Dutch undo

23 July 2022

• curprev 22:5622:56, 23 July 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,440 bytes −6 Better use <ø> for this as it's already been used in Limburgish (and West Limburgish) by Peters 2006. It shows that the vowel is phonologically front while also not misleading the reader that <u> is pronounced like Hamont <uu>. undo
• curprev 21:5821:58, 23 July 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,446 bytes +12 the height of the schwa shouldn't be defined as "close-mid" undo

22 July 2022

• curprev 20:3020:30, 22 July 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,434 bytes −641 →Phonology: rm - this is my OR regarding tone, the original transcription is awful in that it doesn't adhere to the tonal analysis but to the length analysis and no effort was made to ascribe the correct tone/underlying (phonemic) length undo

14 June 2022

• curprev 20:4220:42, 14 June 2022 Error talk contribs 15,075 bytes +42 added Category:City colloquials using HotCat undo

1 March 2022

• curprev 01:5101:51, 1 March 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,033 bytes −1 →Phonetic transcription: or maybe not, <˦> denotes a lengthening anyway in Limburgish undo

28 February 2022

• curprev 21:5521:55, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,034 bytes 0 →Phonetic transcription undo
• curprev 19:3419:34, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,034 bytes +1 →Diphthongs: the Veldeke spelling undo
• curprev 19:1619:16, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,033 bytes +1 →Orthographic version undo
• curprev 19:1619:16, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,032 bytes +1 →Phonetic transcription: that's what he meant undo
• curprev 15:5415:54, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,031 bytes 0 →Orthographic version: "aon", not "aan" which is the Standard Dutch cognate undo
• curprev 15:5215:52, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,031 bytes −1 →Orthographic version: ware, not warre (cf. Maastichtian "waore" and Hasselt "weure", both with a long vowel) undo
• curprev 15:5115:51, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,032 bytes −2 →Phonetic transcription: per https://www.mestreechtertaol.nl/rijmwaord/waore/3/ this is probably an unstressed form of /ˈβɑː˦ʀə/ undo
• curprev 15:1315:13, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,034 bytes −4 No idea whether àà is used by Bernaerts, let's use â which is used in the Weert dialect (we should eventually completely switch over to the orthography used by Bernaerts, but for now we do what we can) undo
• curprev 15:0715:07, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,038 bytes +1 →Orthographic version undo
• curprev 14:4614:46, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,037 bytes −2 →Phonetic transcription undo
• curprev 14:4214:42, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,039 bytes 0 →Phonetic transcription: this goes after the stressed syllable undo
• curprev 14:4214:42, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,039 bytes +2 →Phonetic transcription: ah, he transcribes sleeptoon as full length, which is really bad; "maken" seems to have sleeptoon too, per https://www.mestreechtertaol.nl/dictionair/mst/make (in Maastricht, there's even a minimal pair make vs. make, with "make" that has the stootoon being the dimunitive form of "ma") undo
• curprev 14:1014:10, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,037 bytes −3 →Sample: that's a short vowel with Accent 2, cf. https://www.mestreechtertaol.nl/dictionair/mst/vent undo
• curprev 13:2013:20, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,040 bytes +1 →Orthographic version undo Tag: Manual revert
• curprev 13:2013:20, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,039 bytes −1 *noordeweendj, *sleeptoon. Not "noordweendj" and "stoottoon". undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 12:2512:25, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,040 bytes +10 →Prosody undo
• curprev 12:2312:23, 28 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 15,030 bytes +647 →Prosody: Restoring the sample from "The North Wind and the Sun" - the sleeptoon can be easily inferred from transcriptions in Hasselt dialect and Maastrichtian dialect phonology as its distribution/etymology is for the most part the same (and the long vowel in the final syllable of Weert "noordweendj" is another proof that it carries the stoottoon) undo

26 February 2022

• curprev 10:5910:59, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,383 bytes −138 →Consonants undo
• curprev 10:5210:52, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,521 bytes +2 →Consonants undo
• curprev 10:5110:51, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,519 bytes −30 →Consonants undo
• curprev 10:5110:51, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,549 bytes −2 →Consonants undo
• curprev 10:5110:51, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,551 bytes +62 →Consonants undo
• curprev 10:4310:43, 26 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,489 bytes +2 →Consonants: c, ɟ -> tʃ, dʒ for the sake of consistency with Maastrichtian dialect phonology undo

23 February 2022

• curprev 12:4412:44, 23 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,487 bytes −75 H&G's claim that Weert Limburgish has five phonemic degrees of openness among the long front unrounded vowels is tenuous at best - /aː/ is clearly phonologically central if not back as it umlauts to /œː/, as in other Limburgish dialects. It can't be phonologically front, that's not how umlauting works. Furthermore, /eː/ is not a phonetic monophthong, as it features a centering glide [eə]. So, there are no 5 degrees of openness in Weert, neither phonologically nor phonetically. undo

22 February 2022

• curprev 12:5012:50, 22 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,562 bytes −18 No edit summary undo

20 February 2022

• curprev 14:1114:11, 20 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,580 bytes +36 Undid revision 1072998897 by Sol505000 (talk) it can in West Limburgish, including Hamonter undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 14:1014:10, 20 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,544 bytes −36 "Achels" cannot bear tone (it's a short vowel followed by an obstruent) undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 12:1212:12, 20 February 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,580 bytes +6 See Maastrichtian dialect#Vowels undo

1 January 2022

• curprev 22:5722:57, 1 January 2022 Sol505000 talk contribs 14,574 bytes −1 →Diphthongs: no need to complicate things that much undo