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==A mysterious scene==
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Was there a mysterious scene, where one of the heroines in "As The World Turns" tells another woman, that she 'Has entered a very dark room and she has found something 'red, shining and mysterious''?
Someone suggested to me it must be the time when Kim finds a shrine to her, but somehow I think the woman was blonde and she was telling it to someone else. So are there any similar scenes/story lines to the shrine one from the 80's as well?


== Untitled ==
The above comment was written by me in June, before I knew how to sign comments. The above issue is now resolved, as a rewrite was necessary for NPOV. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 19:00, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)


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I think this should be more of a place for objective reporting on the show's history, not whether you think the "globeless" opening is a "sellout" or not.
== Courteney Cox ==

When was Courteney Cox on ATWT? IMDb doesn't list her, or was it a one-time appearance? Or is it not ''the'' Courteney Cox (note the spelling, not Courtney but Courteny) we all know from Friends? -- [[User:ZanderZ|Sander]] 17:34, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's the same Courtney from Friends. She played on the show in 1984, as a friend of Frannie Hughes. She had a scene at the yacht club, dressed in a tennis outfit. It's documented in soap opera magazines, books, and on the Soapnet cable channel when they show their "They Started on Soaps" program, they include a clip of Courtney's ATWT appearance. --[[User:JamesB3|JamesB3]] 17:45, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== History of show's announcements ==

It was I that initiated this section (I forgot to log in with my name). If the info is inaccurate or incorrect, please let me know.
[[User:Hiphats|Hiphats]] 20:09, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:The page may be getting too big. Things like opening sequence, announcements, etc may have to be branched out into separate pages like what happened with the ''[[Another World]]'' page when I tried to nominate it for FAC. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 21:12, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

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== Page Split ==

Boo hiss! That page didn't have to be split! You're supposed to do a poll first! Rumble rumble rumble! [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 00:19, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not only that, but all information covering 1990-2004 has been completely lost! [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 00:21, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And "noughties?" Could you be more colloquial! [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 00:32, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:A poll was not needed to break up the pages. It was approaching 32k and one is supposed to be bold on Wikipedia. All the information hasn't been lost regarding post-1990, either. Go check the edit histories. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 01:01, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

:Thank you, Mike. It wasn't even approaching 32K, it was already at 34K. I did err in putting 56-60/60-70 and so on instead of 56-59, but you fixed that. I was trying to edit and add more information to some of the information currently on the entry, that's why it took longer to post the rest of the 90-04 information. I had no idea that Juppiter or anyone would be so upset. I apologize. The first page was just becoming so long and I think it frees up room and allows more area to discuss not only the history of the program but also other aspects, such as the credits, or famous alumni, or trivia, etc. --[[User:JamesB3|JamesB3]] 02:07, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::Ha, it's cool James, I'm one of those people who took forever adjusting to [[Courtney Cox Arquette]]'s name change. I'll get used to the new article I suppose. What can I say, I'm a spaz. [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 02:36, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

As for "noughties", again it's a term someone made on the area for [[Saturday Night Live]] and it's about as good as anything else I've heard. If anyone else has a better idea, go ahead.

==Criticisms of Storylines==

I was reading through the storyline pages and I noticed that criticisms were passed off as relating the storyline. Now I don't like Grayson McCouch as much as anyone, but I think the history articles need to be for relating what happened, no matter if you liked it or not. Criticisms can go at the bottom, in a separate section. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 17:49, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)


: as the stomach turns <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.82.192.76|97.82.192.76]] ([[User talk:97.82.192.76#top|talk]]) 23:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Which criticism are you talking about? Do you mean because I said he was stubbled and played the role in a mafioso manner? That wasn't an attack, that was what he himself is doing in the role. He's playing the part that way deliberately, because he feels that Dusty is a somewhat thuggish character. I don't have an opinion one way or the other on McCouch. I liked him on AW, he's OK on ATWT I guess. --[[User:JamesB3|JamesB3]] 18:04, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)


== Is DirecTV picking up As The World Turns? ==
:I wasn't trying to single that one out, even though it could have sounded that way. I'm also referring to the "repetitive alcoholism and disco" storyline jab (it does sound like a jab), and the glorious language used to describe the '80s (new heights...it can be worded a little more POV). Again, that wasn't the only instance. Anyway, what needs to be stated is what's going on, not throwing in asides to how the character was in the 1980s, because that's not the here and now. Comparing the characters and the rewrites could very well go in a criticisms section.


There are rumors going around that DirecTV might pick up As The World Turns including on the official site for the show. Is it true that DirecTV is going to pick up the show? There are websites saying that DirecTV might pick up As The World Turns. Is it okay to add it in this article that there are rumors that DirecTV might consider picking up the series?
:If you still don't know what I'm referring to specifically, I can go through each article and paste over here what I think is POV language, or I can just go and change it myself. It isn't just you, it's also others (including, at one time or another, myself). [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 19:13, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)


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== Sky 1 ==
:I've been guilty of introducing somewhat slanted language myself in spots (though I think I've managed to remove some as well). I'm not troubled by the "glorious" language about the 1980s really. Objectively, in terms of ratings, awards, and critical acclaim the show ''did'' in fact reach new heights during this period. It seems legitimate to me to state what sort of place the show was in creatively under the stewardship of different writers and EPs. However, I ''am'' troubled by the critiques of recasts (isn't the quality of Graham Winton's performance as Caleb Snyder vs. that of his predecessor Michael David Morrison more a matter for a critical opinion forum than part of an objective history of the show?). I also think some of the writing on the later decades (including my own in spots) operates from the assumption that disuse of older characters automatically equals bad writing and mis-handling of the show. This is certainly the contention of a vocal portion of the fanbase, but should it be an operating assumption when writing a history of show's storylines and behind-the-scenes developments? And is it really necessary to find a way to excoriate Sheffer's work in each decade's entry? He's only been writing the show for the past four years, after all. Quibbles aside, I do like all the high-quality fleshing out that's been happening in the history section(s). Great work! [[User:Sterntreiber|Sterntreiber]] 20:06, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)


According to § [[As the World Turns#International broadcast|International broadcast]],
::I wouldn't say Sheffer's only been there 4 years. 4 years is a long time. The second longest for any ATWT head writer in the past 20 years. Heck, 25 years. His reign of terror has been long. [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 20:12, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:Since it ended its run on September 17, 2010, the classic reruns of ''As the World Turns'' currently air on [[Sky 1]] since September 20, 2010.
Where? [[Sky 1|Sky 1 broadcasts only in the UK and Ireland]], which are not among the six countries mentioned in the section. The infobox summarizes the history:
*Launched
**26 April 1982 (Norway and Finland)
**27 June 1983 (Western Europe)
*Closed
**30 July 1989 (everywhere except UK and Ireland)


If Sky1 is broadcasting ATWT classic reruns in the UK and/or Ireland, that fact should be in the main paragraph of the article along with the other countries, and in the same format. And since this sentence was added anonymously and [[WP:OR|without a reference]], I'm just deleting it.
::Graham Winton was never accepted by most of the fans. That's not a critique of him, it's just that Michael David Morrison WAS Caleb and many fans could not see another actor in the role. Caleb also had little storyline of his own (he just yelled at his wife a lot) after the recast.


--[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 19:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
::I don't think that saying a show suffers from disusing older characters is simply an opinion. Ratings fell off when the older characters were shoved aside. The people who made these decisions were quickly replaced. Ratings would go back up when the older characters began to be featured again. That's what happened in the 80's, and also in the late 90's. Then when the new faces took over again, the ratings went back down.


== External links modified ==
::I mentioned repetitive stories about discos and alcoholism because those were the stories on ATWT at the time. I mean maybe they were popular, but considering the slide in the ratings ATWT had in the late 70's, I'm not sure. You guys may want to read The Soap Opera Encyclopedia, by the late Christopher Schmering. He mentioned some of the late 70's stuff I mentioned. He went into more details than I did, actually. I don't think I was overly critical of Sheffer. I mainly pointed out his flaws in the 00-04 section. The other mentions were minor and merely pointed out the stories he told for the characters.--[[User:JamesB3|JamesB3]] 02:46, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC) If you guys have serious problems, then I'm sure you've already made changes, but I don't think I went out of my way to be partisan. Believe me, I held back considering some of my feelings about what has been done to ATWT over the past 10 years.


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: I think it's phrased just carefully enough to work. And, trust me, James, I've had to hold back to when it comes to Sheffer. There are some writers, like Lynn Latham and Bernard Lechowick, whose styles don't appeal to me personally, but I understand why others like them. But how Sheffer has fans is completely beyond me. I mean, the ATWT of today is just so completely shitty. Even if I hadn't seen the glory years of the show, it'd still be shitty. But, alas, the Wikipedian rules force us to be Swiss. [[User:Juppiter|Juppiter]] 20:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Thank you, Juppiter. I don't have a very high opinion of Sheffer or of Lorraine Broderick, frankly. It's funny that Leah Laiman got the worst notices of the 3 most recent ATWT headwriters but she's the one I had the least problems with. Anyway, I appreciate all of the comments and help you guys have provided. I'm going to be adding to the histories and backstage dramas of other soaps, so I needed the pointers.


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BTW, you guys may want to check out the new page I put up for Michael Louden (ex-Duke Kramer, RIP). I was really surprised to learn of the circumstances surrounding his death. Well, at least he's in a better place now. --[[User:JamesB3|JamesB3]] 20:28, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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A mysterious scene

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Was there a mysterious scene, where one of the heroines in "As The World Turns" tells another woman, that she 'Has entered a very dark room and she has found something 'red, shining and mysterious? Someone suggested to me it must be the time when Kim finds a shrine to her, but somehow I think the woman was blonde and she was telling it to someone else. So are there any similar scenes/story lines to the shrine one from the 80's as well?

Untitled

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I think this should be more of a place for objective reporting on the show's history, not whether you think the "globeless" opening is a "sellout" or not.

as the stomach turns — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.82.192.76 (talk) 23:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is DirecTV picking up As The World Turns?

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There are rumors going around that DirecTV might pick up As The World Turns including on the official site for the show. Is it true that DirecTV is going to pick up the show? There are websites saying that DirecTV might pick up As The World Turns. Is it okay to add it in this article that there are rumors that DirecTV might consider picking up the series?

Sky 1

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According to § International broadcast,

Since it ended its run on September 17, 2010, the classic reruns of As the World Turns currently air on Sky 1 since September 20, 2010.

Where? Sky 1 broadcasts only in the UK and Ireland, which are not among the six countries mentioned in the section. The infobox summarizes the history:

  • Launched
    • 26 April 1982 (Norway and Finland)
    • 27 June 1983 (Western Europe)
  • Closed
    • 30 July 1989 (everywhere except UK and Ireland)

If Sky1 is broadcasting ATWT classic reruns in the UK and/or Ireland, that fact should be in the main paragraph of the article along with the other countries, and in the same format. And since this sentence was added anonymously and without a reference, I'm just deleting it.

--Thnidu (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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