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Articles of living person without their photo

Why so many articles of biographies of persons are existing without their photos ? 223.178.144.61 (talk) 18:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Because no-one has found and added a suitable photo. The problem is often that there's no available copyright-free photo. Maproom (talk) 18:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a strict image use policy, and images need to be freely licenced. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi person editing from 223.178.144.61. For them to be used in Wikipedia articles, images must be:

1. in the public domain; or
2. released under a suitably free and compatible copyright license; or
3. used under fair use, but only if they meet all ten of the non-free content criteria.

Very few images will meet these requirements. In particular, with some limited exceptions, images of living persons can't meet the fair use criterion of "no free equivalent", because the possibility always exists, while they are alive, that someone can snap a photo somewhere and release it. Please note also that unlike many websites, where someone can license a non-free copyrighted image for use at that site, we don't allow this. For these reasons, many biography articles do not have any image, and many others have a non-professional quality image because the only one we can use was one taken at some random location by an amateur (rather than, e.g., a professional headshot) who then released the copyright of the image under a suitable license. And even this last is restricted – see Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, for living people, the third criteria mentioned above (fair use) cannot generally be used. Which is why many living people don't have photos. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

But it is wired and feels like incomplete. when a naive reader like do not see photo of the person related to that article.Many folks paste photos on WP from here and there under fair use policy.But still I don't know how to use this fair use policy and pick photo from somewhere and paste it on WP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.178.144.61 (talk) 10:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The fair use policy accords with the Wikimedia Foundation's interpretation of US copyright law. Please either (A) make sure that you understand this policy (which is necessarily complex) or (B) don't upload photographs or other images for which you claim "fair use". -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoary No , sir I still not able to understand what is this fair use policy. I will not dare to upload any copyright work here. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 16:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to write successor , previous office holder name in Infobox ?

Hello friends , while editing a article about former office holder Eknath Khadse , politician.I am not able to add his previous office holder's name , Chief minister's name in which cabinet he was minister.Also not able to add governor name.I tried to add by visual and non visual way , but I couldn't.I think Infobox office holder don't have these options.that man was three times minister.Can someone fix this issue. 223.178.144.61 (talk) 10:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

In {{Infobox officeholder}}, you can populate the existing |predecessor1= and |predecessor2=, and add |predecessor3= and |predecessor4=. If you would like further help, I suggest you post in the article's talk page: Talk:Eknath Khadse. Please provide a published reliable source for the information you would like added to the article as well. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

GoingBattyHi , I tried what you said but issue still not resolving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.178.144.61 (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

 Fixed I changed |Predecessor4= to |predecessor4=. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 21:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

GoingBattyHi , I got it !106.220.85.12 (talk) 16:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Frustrated

Many, many times I have tried to improve an article someone deletes my hard work. I quit Wikipedia years ago for the very same thing, but figured I'd give it another chance, but it's happening again. I'm about to quit forever! 174.250.246.103 (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Since the IP you're currently using has 2 edits in total, it's hard to give any advice without more what/when/where. WP:COMMUNICATION may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP user, could you maybe link what article you're triyng to improve so we could know if the person who deleted your work was right or wrong? I would reccommend you to ask the person who deletes your work why they did that on their user talk page. I also reccommend you to make an account so you can keep track of your contributions since the list resets when you move locations as an IP, that would also help people know what you're talking about. Max20characters (talk) 18:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Looking for some help of native-language speakers interested in 1960s/70ies rock

Hello, I am new on wikipedia and wrote an article about the protometal band Poobah from Ohio (rock fans might be familiar with the name). I translated the article into english, but I am not a native speaker. I got a cleanup template message on the article and need some help to get it fixed. People with some knowledge of counterculture, psychedelic rock and similar things would be very welcome. The article is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poobah_(band) GegenkulturForschung (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC) GegenkulturForschung (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@GegenkulturForschung: Welcome to the Teahouse! If you have any conflict of interest with this band, you must disclose it on your user page (preferably with {{UserboxCOI}}). I suggest you read WP:BAND and determine whether Poobah meets Wikipedia's notability requirements for inclusion. Next, gather all of your published independent and reliable sources about the band. Then, summarize in your own words what the sources say, and remove all the sentences that are not supported by a source. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello GoingBatty, I did a lot of research, but I am not sure where to find any source that will be considered to be independent and reliable about any older rock band that is not as popular as the beatles. To be correct; the band I write about is certainly not a common mainstream band, but most of the bands before the Disco invasion weren't. Although lesser known , it is not any obscure amateur band. The band ist still active after 48 years (and the founder played in two bands before that, having produced at least two records), has published 14 albums and is working on the next, and some of their songs have been used in televison serials and hollywood movies lately. I have a large collection of literature, (which wasn't helpful in that case) and I have found the band cited as "Most collectible psyche band" or "Top ten of.." in magacines like The Rolling Stone and metioned as important protometal pioneers all over the internet. Still, I need someone who can point me out a source that I can link here. So I hoped to find someone with mutual interests here in the tea room." GegenkulturForschung (talk) 19:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I can't claim I've heard of this band before, but if you have literature, even if it's not online, you can still cite it. Rolling Stone should be just fine. --Anon423 (talk) 00:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Article is semi-protected so I can not edit

I am a student working on a class that requires us to edit an article. I chose the article "Feral cat" and I wanted to add an update from the AVMA with citations as well as 3 references for this week's assignment. I will also need to do further edits on the article as the course progresses but it said that the page is semi-protected. Will I be able to work on this article or should I pick another article to work on? Jmm26 (talk) 15:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jmm26: Welcome to the Teahouse! If you click on the gray lock icon at the top right of the article, you'll see that a user can edit the article if they are autoconfirmed (accounts that are at least four days old and have made at least ten edits to Wikipedia). You meet both these criteria, and I confirmed your status at Special:UserRights. At the top of the Feral cat article, you should see "Edit" and/or "Edit source" tabs. If you only see "View source", then you cannot edit the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

If for some reason you wish to edit an article that you cannot edit, you may make a formal edit request on the article talk page, and write the change you wish to make there, for another editor to review. But as GB says, you should be able to edit that article. 331dot (talk) 15:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

talk Hi first time I am seeing this that a people editing on Wikipedia as their class work. I don't think your response genuine. But before editing do research and write in you own words in simple UK English , don't use slang , local Eng words of your place. Because WP is read by folks all around the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.178.144.61 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

It is not at all unusual for students to get an assignment to work on a Wikipedia article. Secondly, the variety of English depends on the article – articles about UK-specific subjects should be written in British English, articles about US-specific subjects use American English, and so on. Articles that are not about a topic that is connected to a particular region should in general stick to the variety the first author used. More information here. --bonadea contributions talk 16:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jmm26. Only articles which have been the subject of repeated disruption or vandalism tend to get page protected. Usually, page protection is the last resort when all other attempts to try and resolve the problem have failed. There also tends to be a number of editors closely monitoring such articles to make sure someone doesn't try to any sneak in any disruption by somehow figuring out a way to get around the page protection. So, you might want to discuss you desire to edit this particular article with your Wiki-Ed advisor(s) since you might find it a bit harder to edit than perhaps some other article. Well-meaning students often run into problems when they select articles about contentious subjects or articles which have a history of being page protected. Feral cat is indefinitely protected which means that there was some serious disruption going on at least at one point in time. The article has been protected six times since 2012 and each time the protection was removed, the disruption seems to have started up again. So, this might not be the best choice of an article to work on. I'm not trying to discourage you. If you really want to try to improve this article, then go ahead once your account has been WP:AUTOCONFIRMED; this might, however, be an article where it's better to be a bit more WP:CAUTIOUS than WP:BOLD. Just make sure you leave a clearly worded edit summary for your edits and try not to do a major rewrite/reorganization without first proposing it on the article's talk page. If you do those things, your edits are unlikely going to be mistaken for disruption or vandalism. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you all, but I still was not able to edit. The same message saying that it is semi-protected appears. Jmm26 (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

removal of template

 Courtesy link: Noel Wood

I have tried, but cannot remove a template on my father's site: Noel Wood, Australian Artist. I have made references to where someone unknown to me put in "citations needed". The citations were about his birth and his mother - ridiculous! Enoneo (talk) 00:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Enoneo: Welcome to the Teahouse. The issue is that there are no inline citations per Wikipedia standards; please see WP:EASYREFBEGIN for an introduction to citing. If you are related to Wood you must disclose your conflict of interest. Please do so either on your user page or the article's talk page. Your citations must be to reliable sources. On an unrelated note, the article is suffering from a tone issue, which should be expressed as neutrally as possible (that is, not using words like sadly). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I've cleaned up Noel Wood and I removed the tag. Possibly (talk) 04:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Nice job, Possibly! I looked at it and chickened out as it seemed too daunting for me to attempt. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.125.75.168 (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Viacom (1952-2006) to Watch

Can someone Add Viacom (1952-2006) to their watchlist, Because some unregistered user keeps on removing Viacom International from the Former names, when it's actually a true former name of the Company. I also recommend blocking the user Indefinitely for causing an Edit war. LooneyTraceYT (talk) 02:09, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

LooneyTraceYT,welcome to the Teahouse - you can report a User for Edit Warring here WP:AN3. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Tariq Shah Bahram

FYI

 – Created section header. GoingBatty (talk) 05:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Kindly please remove promotional materials and extra links from article (Tariq Shah Bahram). it's very kind of you if you do this to me, cause i don't know what's promotional material in my article. thank you very much. it will be appreciated that my article is published and on public status on wikipedia. thank you very much. Waseem.nasimi (talk) 04:09, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Waseem.nasimi: Welcome to the Teahouse! I'm glad you posted your concern on the article talk page. The sentence about his hobbies is unreferenced and could be considered promotional. Also, please use the references and external links to create additional footnotes. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

It's actually Tariq Shah Bahrami. David notMD (talk) 10:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism

Fiona Graham and Fukagawa Geisha

COI: First, I want to disclose that I have no financial or in-kind gain from editing Wikipeida. I will disclose that I am a fan, but these exist on both sides of the spectrum and these are the people who help build Wikipeida.

I am being accused of vandalism on the two pages mentioned, but in my opinion the two editors concerned are the ones doing the vandalism.

• The Fukagawa Geisha house has been featured in several major media outlets, including NHK, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal. There are plenty of other major news outlets writing about it as well. It should not be merged into the Fiona Graham article because it is a non-profit venture established by several local geisha, albeit Fiona Graham is the geisha mother. A lot of the arguments being forwarded by the other side seem to involve other editors that have nothing to do with me. My primary aim is to get a Fukagawa Geisha article up and add more information to the Fiona Graham page, so merging the "Geisha mother" section into [Fiona Graham]] article is fine with me.

• The prominence of the Wanaka Gym case is vandalism and should not be an entire section, in both the Japanese and English wikipedias. It is rarely mentioned in any article about Fiona Graham beyond articles about that court case, yet most of the editors arguing with me seem to have a bone-of-contention on that topic (despite the fact that I included the case in a paragraph myself in my article).

• If you look at the history of Japanese version of the Fiona Graham article, you can see that several non-Japanese editors (Ineffablebookkeeper, IP addresses etc...) repeatedly revert any new information that is added to the article, being unconstructive and reducing the usefulness of the article. Their main aim in both the English and Japanese versions seems to be to increase the prominence of the Wanaka Gym case. Japanese editors always seem to try and change edits back to the original version.

They need to be constructive towards wikipedia:

• Wikipedia is about constructive article building. Fukagawa Geisha has received a lot of media attention in major global news outlets and hence deserves a page on Wikipedia. Fiona Graham has a lot more going on in her life than Wanaka Gym, and not only does the court case not deserve its own section, but there is so much more about her life that should be added but the editors keep reverting.

• Considering a large number of edits (of opposing party) seem to come from IP addresses or English speaking accounts, I consider them to be more resembling vandalism, whereas my role is a fan with no material gain.

Geicraftor (talk) 04:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Geicraftor is likely a Fiona Graham sockpuppet. She has been at it for over ten years now; see the talk page of her article for detailed backstory. Also, regarding "Japanese editors always seem to try and change edits back to the original version." -- per WP:DUCK, these editors are most likely sockpuppets of Graham herself. They are all SPAs that push the same point of view on the article; a POV that just so happens to be the same as Graham's. Furthermore, Graham has been on this point about "my trouble with Wanaka Gym is irrelevant!" for all these years, so it's getting super obvious that when a new account, editing in JST, shows up and tries to remove it, it's our friend herself. Finally, the media attention she mentions is usually puff pieces that are designed as promotion rather than appearing to be any serious journalistic in her work. 124.197.54.156 (talk) 07:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Marchjuly has told you at Talk:Fukagawa_Geisha, IP, to knock off the name-calling. -- Hoary (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Geicraftor, this can be discussed on the articles' talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Pending Changes problems

why do my changes go to pending review, when I'm extended confirmed

there are people with lower permissions that get [automatically accepted] when I have a large number of edits and mine go to [pending review]

this can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Smith_(cricketer)&action=history

this new user is reverting my edits while I get put to pending DiamondIIIXX (talk) 05:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I have a theory that will probably get rejected by those that know better than me... but somehow your account skipped over Autoconfirmed and went directly to Extended Confirmed per the user log... I'm wondering if Pending Changes is ignoring the implied Autoconfirmed and hence you are still being caught under PC protection. There is my 2 cents anyway. - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 06:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@DiamondIIIXX: (sorry, I gave a misleading reply just now, related to reviewing pending changes rather than editing a PC protected article. New attempt, with coffee inside me...) There is a problem with pending changes – see this thread at the Village Pump, and this thread at Wikipedia talk:Pending_changes. Those are the places to check to see what is happening with this issue, and maybe report that it's happening to you as well. --bonadea contributions talk 07:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Bonadea: I was replying to your response when I got a merge conflict and found you removed it, haha. The issue was sent to Phabricator and has been listed as a bug - I raised the error in the wikipedia-help IRC. DiamondIIIXX (talk) 07:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Backlinks

how I can get dofollow backlinks from your website? Khus199 (talk) 06:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Khus199. It's not clear what you're asking. What are dofollow backlinks? From your contribution's history, it appears like you've been trying to add links to the "External links" sections of some articles. but that the links you've added have been removed by others. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided and Wikipedia:Spam#External link spamming for more information because the links you're trying to add do not seem to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Marchjuly, dofollow may be the opposite of nofollow. If so, the answer is that you don't. It's by design and on purpose. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I think Gråbergs Gråa Sång is right, and I wonder if there's some kind of external recommendation to get "backlinks" from Wikipedia articles right now. There's this higher up on this page, and a couple of days ago I noticed this. It's not uncommon for new users to add spam links in good faith, but I haven't really seen this phrasing used. Three instances isn't very much of a pattern so probably a coincidence, but I'm mentioning it here in case others have noticed the same thing. --bonadea contributions talk 12:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

If there are "dofollowers" watching, see Google: Links From Wikipedia Does Nothing For Your Site & Has No SEO Value Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Bonadea, this [1] could be part of such a pattern. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Lack of response to my contribution made on January 28, 2021

I had made my second contribution on January 28, 2021, after my first submission was rejected. I made necessary changes and additions to the content. But, I haven’t received a response on acceptance or rejection of my later submission. Please look into the matter at the earliest. Evolved nerd (talk) 06:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Evolved nerd: Draft/article reviewing is done in no particular order, and asking on the teahouse will not "cut the line". I can tell you, however, that your article as it is right now will probably not make it. It's not structured like an article. There are many NPOV issues and the article looks like an advertisement in some lights. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 07:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Evolved nerd: Also, if you mean User:Evolved nerd/sandbox, you have not resubmitted it for review yet, see the blue "resubmit" button. If you do, see where the template says "Improving your odds of a speedy review". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Many sections do not have references. David notMD (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry. I thought I resubmitted the edited content. Should I simply now click on the resubmit button? Could someone guide me? Also, if someone could point out where exactly the text is falling short, and what edits I should make to help my article get accepted, that will be great. This is my first time making a submission on wikipedia. I am rather lost. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evolved nerd (talk • contribs) 05:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to submit new created article , draft to review ?

Hello , I created two articles Draft : Kothadi , Draft : Jalgaon housing scam but they still not live or not reviewed , I don't know.Can you tell me how to submit new draft. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 09:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Try this link: WP:SUBMIT. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Kothadi appears to have been created by a different editor? Anyway, not yet submitted for review. Jalgaon has now been submitted. David notMD (talk) 10:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Hello thanks for submitting article created by me. will you submit Draft : Jalgaon housing scam for review. And can explain me how I can send a article for reviewin future. Cheers 106.220.85.12 (talk) 12:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I did not, that was someone else. Did you try the link I posted just above? You can also add this code: {{AfC submission/draft}} at the top of a draft you want to submit. Then check the "Improving your odds of a speedy review" advice in the template. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi. The housing scam article was an interesting subject. It might have been accepted, but probably not in its prior state but I have done a complete copyedit/rewrite and I believe it's ready for the mainspace. However, I am now "involved" so I would not presume to accept an article I worked on this extensively.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi again. Since you posted to my talk page, but did so near the top of the page (and are not editing by an account, so I can't ping you), you might not have noticed my response, which relocated your post to the bottom of the page. Please see User talk:Fuhghettaboutit #Jalgaon housing scam. Thanks--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Cite book with two ISBNs

Hello again, Teahousers. I am writing the List of Works in an article, and trying to cite a book that has two ISBNs: one for the print version and the other for online. The Manual of Style says to "provide the ISBN of one or more editions when doing so seems to be helpful", but I just can't see how to do this using {{cite book}}. It only appears to support a single ISBN. Am I missing something? Or is there a preference for which of these ISBNs to use? --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Gronk Oz, The doc of the template Cite Book refers to "Use the ISBN actually printed on or in the book." You could perhaps add it via Template ISBN. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford: that makes sense when using it as a reference. But in this case, it is being used in a list of published works instead. I suppose as you say, I just need to add them manually with descriptions. Thanks.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Filmography table request templates?

I know there's a template for requesting an infobox be added to articles. You add the request to the talk page. I haven't been able to find one for Filmography tables? Does one exist or a list of articles in need of one? -- HistoricalAccountings (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC) HistoricalAccountings (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

No talk page discussion?

I want to make certain changes to an article (Gimbap), but I was advised by one of the editors to use the talk page. I'd already edited and reverted three times, so to avoid edit warring, I added my proposed changes to the talk page (talk:Gimbap). But, nobody has commented on the proposal, including the person who had reverted my changes on the grounds it violated 'fair balance' three times. It's been 4 days and I was wondering at what point I could edit the article again without being accused of edit warring or for not seeking consensus? NettingFish15019 (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

NettingFish15019, one starting point would be WP:AVOIDEDITWAR and my suggestion would be to ask for a third opinion WP:THIRD since your topic had obviously been discussed before without getting to any consensus. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford:, thanks for the advice. I'm trying to get a third opinion through the talk page, but nobody seems to be posting anything and I thought I could only post a third opinion once there has been more discussion on the talk page? Does this apply to the questions I posted, or just to the general topic as a whole? Also, someone had recently edited the page, such that it drastically changed the tone of the article as a whole (which I thought was without consensus too). In that spirit, I tried to reverse the changes by, what I thought was, making the language more neutral. NettingFish15019 (talk) 00:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Help me to send my newly created article to review

Hi I recently created two articles Draft : Kothadi , Draft : Jalgaon housing scam.It will great if you able to send it for review.And explain how to send a draft to review in in simple UK English. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC) 106.220.85.12 (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

You have submitted your drafts for review and they are pending. 331dot (talk) 12:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

You already have a post regarding these drafts, above, at #How to submit new created article , draft to review ?, which has received multiple responses.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Were Nagant M1895 used by the Ottoman Empire?

I have seen some historically accurate tv shows about the ottoman empire where they featured the Nagant M1895 revolver, was the revolver ever used by the ottoman empire and if so why isn't the Ottoman Empire featured in the Users list on the Wikipedia page about the M1895 revolver? Mig Pilot (talk) 12:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Probably because none of the volunteers here knew that. If you have sources you can add it. Britmax (talk) 12:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy Nagant M1895 7-shot revolver. Made for, and later by, Russia. David notMD (talk) 15:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Citations in cast list

How do you had citations in movie pages that have cast lists. Seems like you can't use the visual editors and have to use basic coding. Also, how do you create new sections such as "reception" once the movie comes out Nerdpantz (talk) 14:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Nerdpantz, welcome to the Teahouse. You should be able to still add citations through the visual editor with its Cite button. To create a new heading, just go to a new line and on the editing toolbar, change "Paragraph" to "Heading". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

For Wikiproject Korea: Contextual use of unreliable source?

Hi! So I'm posting a question here in relation to articles within Wikiproject Korea, particularly in the entertainment field. I noticed that while the website Seoulbeats.com is considered as an unreliable site for this Wikiproject, some articles on Korean music albums and dramas cites this site as a reference, particularly in regards to an album/drama critical review. For example: Ice Cream Cake (EP) and The Tale of Nokdu.

In this case, is context needed for the usage of Seoulbeats.com? Like is it unreliable for main articles regarding a living person or event, but acceptable for album/drama reviews? Thanks in advance! JTan1017 (talk) 15:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

• Hi @JTan1017:! While I don't know much about Seaoulbeats.com specifically, an unreliable source like a tabloid or a fanblog generally means that you cannot use that source for biographical information or breaking news. Because a critical review is a matter of opinion and not of fact, certain sources may be included there. For example, the article for the Halestorm song "Uncomfortable" cites the Daily Express, which this list says is "generally unreliable." However, its use in the article is an uncontroversial album review, not a piece of heavy-hitting reporting. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 17:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the reply! Seoulbeats is a Kpop and Kdrama fanblog and review site, and I've been working around improving several Korean album articles lately, so I was wondering if I could use that. Hehe. JTan1017 (talk) 23:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

PARANOID NUMANOID on CHARLES SWAINSON

Sorry: I forgot to add a headline properly and so my question is attached to the previous question (above)! Paranoid Numanoid (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC) Paranoid Numanoid (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Can I have an editor look over my draft article please? I've had feedback and tried to incorporate everything, I know I have expanded it and that it may be too long, I know I need more referencing after the first part, and I think having three paragraph headings in the same form may be repetitious (is there such a word?!) but apart from that am I on the right track and how can I shape it to be acceptable in due course? Grateful for any constructive criticism. Paranoid Numanoid (talk) 15:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC) Paranoid Numanoid (talk) 15:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

This must be about User:Paranoid Numanoid/sandbox/Rev. Charles Swainson, M.A.. There's a lot of ureferenced content, including the whole of the three sections that follow the lead. Where did you get all that information? If from reliable sources, you'll need to cite them. Otherwise, you'll need to remove it. Maproom (talk) 16:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Cut vigorously and reference everything. David notMD (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Paranoid Numanoid: Your personal correspondence cannot be used as a reference - all references need to be published so they could be verified by others. Also, please remove the link to example.com. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Feedback on potential article contribution

Hi everyone, I am hoping to add a bit of information to the police abolition page, with emphasis on cities that have undertaken the first steps to police abolition. My contribution is in my sandbox at the moment and I would love to hear any feedback on the content. Here is the link to my sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evb16/sandbox Evb16 (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

OMG. It cites no sources at all. Where did all that content come from? A Wikipedia article needs to be based on the sources that it cites. The (relatively) easy way to write an article is to find all the sources you will need, read them thoroughly, then write the article based in what they say, citing them as you go. Very much more difficult, is to write your own opinions and recollections, then go through what you've written, trying to find a source for each statement. I recommend abandoning what you've written, and starting again from the beginning, using the method I've recommended above. It will save you a lot of effort. But I know from experience that a new contributor is unlikely to take that advice. Maproom (talk) 17:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

More than once you have written "occording to the New York Times... Go to those Times articles and use your own words to repeat what was written – but don't add in what wasn't written there, such as your own opinion, or what you heard from someone. Then cite those articles. Use reference brackets, and between those brackets put in the article name, the name of the newspaper, and page number the article appeared on. Find other published sources for what you want to say. If the newspaper articles are online you can add an External Link for those who want to read the entire article, but for Wikipedia articles a condensed version of what was written is often best, for many people feel overwhelmed when seeing a long article.

It's good that you want to edit Wikipedia articles, and that you reached out for help. It takes some practice to know the best way to improve an article. Best wishes. Karenthewriter (talk) 17:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Editing My User And Talk Page To Make Them Look More Exciting

Hi, I would like to ask now could I make things more exciting for other users. My User and Talk page look very dull and I just want to make it welcome for other people that's all! I am AestheticDiabetic09 as you said 'DO NOT SIGN with tildes' AestheticDiabetic09 (talk) 15:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey, AestheticDiabetic09, and welcome to the Teahouse. There are a whole bunch of things you can do to spice your user page up, but my personal favorite is an infobox with userboxes. Userboxes (WP:UBX) are templates that allow you to describe yourself as an editor or as a person. They're always bright and colorful, and they can often be helpful to other editors visiting your page. For example, some describe what language(s) you speak and how proficiently, some describe how many edits you've contributed, some what WikiProjects (WP:PROJECT) you're involved with, etc. Also, check out Wikimedia Commons, our sister project, for great Creative Commons images you can add to your profile. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 16:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk pages are for functional communications with other editors, about article edits, so my advice is don't dwell on it being 'exciting'. David notMD (talk) 17:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@AestheticDiabetic09: When you find someone else's user page or talk page that looks exciting, you can view the source to see how it was done. GoingBatty (talk) 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

what happens when two articles are about the same subject?

i'm very curious about what happens when two articles are about the same thing, i've never seen this happen before, so thats why im curious (sorry if this was short, im not very good at writing super detailed questions :/) Alex102207 (talk) 16:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Alex! Welcome to the Teahouse. Please see WP:CFORK for Wikipedia's guidelines on content forking. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 16:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

An example: Vitamin B12 has some information on deficiency, but Vitamin B12 deficiency goes into more detail. And then there is Vitamin B12 deficiency anemia. David notMD (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Alex102207: Sometimes, two editors will unknowingly write articles that have somewhat different titles but deal with the same topic. Sooner or later, when someone notices this, the articles will be merged. Deor (talk) 19:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Alex. Usually these articles are merged once one of us finds out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chewie1138 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Writing your own story

How do you write your oen story on Wikipedia Rose Bulma (talk) 17:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

How do you talk to a person on Wikipedia likea celebrity Rose Bulma (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Rose Bulma, and welcome to the Teahouse. We don't have "stories" here, we have encyclopaedia articles. Anybody is welcome to create a draft article about a notable subject by using the articles for creation process; however, creating an article is much more difficult than it looks, and hundreds of attempts by inexperienced editors are declined for rework, or deleted, every day. My advice is not even to try it until you have had several hundred edits to existing articles, that are accepted as improvements (i.e. they don't get reverted by another editor). That way, you are likely to have some understanding of how Wikipedia works before you try it.

If by "your own story", you mean "an article about you", then my advice is not to try it, ever: autobiography is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, and you are likely to have a frustrating and miserable time if you try it.

Finally, there are no celebrities on Wikipedia (apart from as the subjects of articles): there are only editors. Some of the editors might happen to be celebrities in the world, but here on Wikipedia they are only editors. The only kind of talking to them that is appropriate is when collaborating to improve the encyclopaedia: that is what we are all here for, nothing else. --ColinFine (talk) 17:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Washishi

Washishi-1.(noun) to be epic or awesome;to like or worship monke(also know as monkey).2.(verb) to misunderstand someone or something;to be misunderstood(thought to be said sometdifferent). Pronounced(way-shee-she)and can also be spelled washishied or washishing depending on the situation

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hahatrey (talk • contribs) 17:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hahatrey, do you have a question for us? Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 17:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Hahatrey, and welcome to the Teahouse. Based on your user page, I believe you may be trying to create an article for the word 'Washishi'. However, I can't find mention of this word anywhere (including the Japanese Wiktionary). If you are trying to create this entry, I would advise against it for two reasons: 1) This reads very much like WP:MADEUP, and 2) even if it weren't, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. If anything, assuming this is some slang that you or a friend made up, this would probably be better for a site like Urban Dictionary. If it's not made up and you can support that, then our sister project Wiktionary would be the place to go. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 19:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Two-dimensional schematic diagram

I posted the following inquiry at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Two-dimensional schematic diagram, and someone suggested asking at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab, which appears to be service to order custom maps. However, my question is on creating simple do-it-yourself schema diagrams. Could someone here advise me? Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 18:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I would like to do a two-dimensional schematic diagram to represent a streetcar network of 3 north/south lines and one interconnecting east/west line. I would like to use Template:Routemap but I would want the east/west line to be a horizontal line instead of twisting it into a vertical line. Thus, the schematic would resemble the city street grid. However, I suspect I would have problems indicating and labelling east/west stops. Is there any existing examples of doing this?

My second choice would be to acquire some inexpensive, easy-to-use diagram software to produce a diagram similar in style to this svg example or this gif example. Could someone recommend software to do this? Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

TheTrolleyPole, I have zero experience in this area, but I believe Inkscape is a free popular choice for graphic design, although I would imagine most of it is actually done with Adobe Illustrator. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 19:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip about InkScape. It looks complicated but there are lots of online tutorials. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 02:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

"Not to be confused with"

How does one implement the above? ----MountVic127 (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi MountVic127. I guess you want {{Distinguish}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@MountVic127:. Check out WP:HATNOTE. Section 6.2.2 has some examples for this. RudolfRed (talk) 21:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) ----MountVic127 (talk) 22:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Banned from Live Chat Help

Hello, moments ago I attempted to ask a question using the Live Chat Help. Before I could ask a question about improving my article, I was quickly banned. Why would this happen, and how do I get specific help with improving an article when the reviewer isn't available? I've asked the reviewer to elaborate on his/her comments about notability, but I've not heard back. I'm afraid the draft article will be removed before I can provide some improvements. Lakewood66 (talk) 20:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Lakewood66, welcome to the Teahouse - no idea about what happened to the Live Chat but you could ask your question for example at the Article for Creation Helpdesk WP:AFCHD. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Lakewood66. I have no idea about Live Chat (I've never used it) but I can reassure you on one point: drafts are not deleted just because they fail review (I don't think they're deleted even if they are outright rejected). They are deleted only if they break major policies like COPYVIO or No personal attacks, or if they are untouched for six months. --ColinFine (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Your draft, Declined once, exists at Draft:Shannon Global Energy Solutions. You also asked about it at Help Desk and have been promised help (in future please do not ask in more than one place). There is some history about the topic, as it appears you had created a draft last summer that was Speedy deleted. No idea what happened at Live Chat Help. David notMD (talk) 22:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lakewood66: I don't know why you were banned from the live chat help I've seen people get banned because they were being rude or because they were blocked on Wikipedia, but those don't apply to you. Were you logged in to #wikipedia-en-help ^connect or somewhere else? Were you logged in as Lakewood66 or an anonymous username? (Maybe an anonymous username or IP was blocked earlier, and you were assigned the same username or IP range when you tried logging in?) If you'd like to try again tonight, I'll keep an eye out for you. GoingBatty (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Lakewood66, I'm very sorry that you had this experience. I'm a channel operator over at #wikipedia-en-help and I looked into this issue. It looks like you came in right in the middle of an attack where the attacker was rapidly IP/nick hopping and I fear you might have been accidentally assumed to be a part of that attack (they were using dozens of nicks that were "WPhelp<random #>" and a wide variety of IPs, where normally the nick is "<ColorAnimal##>"). I hope you will accept my apologies. I will go ahead and unban all the less-suspect IPs around that timeframe and keep an eye out for you, you can just type my nick or GoingBatty's nick to ping us specifically if you like. Waggie (talk) 01:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Add link to German Wikipedia Page

I noticed that the link to the german translation of [Metric|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_(mathematics)] is missing, it should be [Metricsher Raum]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrischer_Raum (redirected from [Metrik]https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metrik_(Mathematik)&redirect=no) How can I add the link to the German translation? (And how do links work again in Wikipedia?) TheFibonacciEffect (talk) 20:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

TheFibonacciEffect, it is not that easy for new Editors but a good starting point would be the How To Guide for this so-called Interwiki Links at WP:ILL. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@TheFibonacciEffect: It is Metric space which corresponds to de:Metrischer Raum. Metric (mathematics) is closely related but does not have a German article. The language links are usually made at Wikidata but Wikidata does not allow two English articles to be connected to the same German article. Help:Interlanguage links#Local links gives an alternative without Wikidata. It can be used to link from Metric (mathematics) to de:Metrischer Raum but not the opposite way. The German article can only link to one English article and Metric space is a better match. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Would it somehow be possible to link the german article de:Metrik_(Mathematik) which redirects to de:Metrischer Raum ? We wouldnt have the issue with two links going to the same german article and wouldnt have to worry if someone writes an article about Metrics.

TheFibonacciEffect (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@TheFibonacciEffect: An interlanguage link in the page source can link any page at another wiki. Metric (mathematics) could have the code [[de:Metrik (Mathematik)]] to make a link to de:Metrik (Mathematik). metric space (Q180953) shows 55 languages and metric function (Q865746) only shows 29 so the issue affects many other languages than German. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

External links.

How do i add external links to Wikipedia without typing the whole thing. I need to be able to verify stuff with external links but i REALLY don't want to have to write the whole link. Chewie1138 (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Chewie1138, welcome to the Teahouse. To clarify, you're referring to using external links as references? Assuming that's the case, the Cite feature in the visual editor can automatically generate a citation from an external link where most of the legwork is done for you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Chewie1138. Copying an address is a feature of your browser or device and not of our software. You can ask for help at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing but you have to say which browser or device you use. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chewie1138 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

When is lunch? I'm hungry. Can someone make an article on that, please?

Make an article on lunch Fearless130 (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

See Lunch. Meters (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

See also Free lunch and There ain't no such thing as a free lunch David notMD (talk) 22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Please also refer to packed lunch, Lunch atop a Skyscraper, ploughman's lunch, plate lunch, no free lunch theorem, no free lunch with vanishing risk, lunch counter, Lunch at the Restaurant Fournaise, lunchbox (which apparently may not represent a worldwide view of the subject of boxes designed to contain lunch), brunch, three-martini lunch, and lunch truck. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 23:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't forget Lydia Lunch. --Finngall ^talk 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Fearless: If you don't stop subtle vandalism you will be out to lunch. David notMD (talk) 01:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

"Not here", and now gone. Please don't feed the trolls. -- Hoary (talk) 05:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I want to make an article about a family member. I think he is relevant enough.

So i want to make an article on an author named John Wayne Falbey I. The problem is that said person is related to me. I think he's relevant enough since he just wrote his first book published by a publisher instead of himself. Would an exemption be made for this, Or will someone else have to make this article? Chewie1138 (talk) 22:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chewie1138: The first problem here is WP:COI. You have a conflict of interest. The second is WP:NOTABILITY. He needs to be known and talked about by independent sources (WP:RS). Extending the second point, WP:NAUTHOR. He needs to be a notable author. Looking over the list, he fails all 4 requirements. I've looked him up and found 2 articles on Google that mention him in passing. From this, I doubt he is notable enough to have an article about him. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 23:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok. I won't make this article then. I was just curious. I don't know all the notability requirements yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chewie1138 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Political leanings

I've noticed the Parler Wikipedia article has a Liberal lean. The problem is that it's almost entirely watched and controlled by a Liberal so anything i do to fix this will be undone. Is there a way i can stop this lean once and for all? Chewie1138 (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chewie1138: Reminder that Wikipedia is not a beacon of WP:TRUTH. We report and summarize what OTHER reliable sources say about a subject. However, if you think the wording of a sentence is clearly biased and not fair, you can either be bold and reword it to a neutral attitude, or make a request on the article's talk page. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 23:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Chewie1138 (ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state. Any bias in those sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. Wikipedia presents the sources to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias. We don't deal in truth, but in what can be verified. Only you can decide what is true for you.

If the reliable sources in the Parler article are not being summarized accurately, or there are sources missing, please bring it up on the article talk page. If the sources are being summarized accurately, but you disagree with them, you will have to take that up with the sources. 331dot (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Chewie1138. Are there any specific excerpts in this article you take issue with? If so, I would be happy to look at them and see if what we've said reflects what reliable sources have said. In high-profile articles such as this, there's usually a high level of conformity with reliable sources, but it never hurts to double-check. Cheers. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chewie1138: That mindset is going to get you in trouble sooner or later. If you insist on seeing the world as black and white, Wikipedia is not for you. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to retrieve some diff without browsing the page history?

My question may be naive, but I found it problematic to retrieve some concrete old diff from the pages with a long history (user talk pages, various noticeboard). Usually, I was doing that by browsing the page history, but sometimes it may be too time consuming. Are there any tools that allow you to quickly retrieve a diff with some post made, e.g. at 10:21 am, 1st October, 2018?

Sincerely, Paul Siebert (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Paul. If you go to the article's revision history, then select 'Filter revisions' at the top, you can search within a specified date. However, I don't think it's possible to specify the time within a date. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 00:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

User:TheTechnician27, thanks, it works. --Paul Siebert (talk) 03:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to prove WP:GNG on board games articles?

I have written an article in the past about a boardgame, and it didn't pass muster because of what I perceived to be lack of WP:GNG. In my rage those day, I just speedily delete my article and then never return again.

Seeing some other articles about board game, it turns out that apart from more famous one like Twilight Struggle most others only cover how the game is played, and most sources only cite Boardgamegeek or the developer site. For example, Fields of Fire (game), Europe Engulfed, SPQR (board game), We the People (boardgame), Empire of the Rising Sun, and some others.

Thus, how to prove WP:GNG or WP:SIGCOV to board games? Almost all board games, except for very few, will be covered by mainstream medias. And seeing how the articles above still be allowed, if I created similar articles with similar sources (not much in media coverage) can it pass review?

Thank you. SunDawn (talk) 04:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@SunDawn: Welcome to the Teahouse! The fine folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games may be able to give more specific guidance. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you GoingBatty. I have submitted the question there and hopefully get my question answered.SunDawn (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

The Article I Created

Hi Teahouse, few days ago, Feb 24, I created an article which I think was approved but I still wonder why I can not find it on Google yet or other search engines. It actually came out on Yahoo search about two days ago. Please what do you think is the problem?

Best regards, Trendrives (talk) 05:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Trendrives: Google does a ton of things with indexing and stuff. This isn't really a Wikipedia problem (if the article is actually in mainspace), moreso a Google thing. Just wait a bit longer. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 05:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Trendrives. Please read Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. In brief, most new articles will not be indexed for search by Google and other search engines until an article is marked OK by the New pages patrol. The restriction is lifted automatically after 90 days if no patroller makes a decision before then. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, WhoAteMyButter and Cullen328, thanks for your response. Trendrives (talk) 12:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Add infobox

How do i add an infobox. I haven't been able to figure it out. Chewie1138 (talk) 06:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chewie1138: Infoboxes are easiest when done in source editing mode. Find the most relevant infobox template, copy in the blank syntax code, and start filling in the parameters after the equals sign (=) in each line. The list of available parameters and what should go in them are in the infobox documentation (like at Template:Infobox musical artist). The best way to see how they work is to go to an existing article with an infobox, go into source editing, and see how the code works there. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Creating new articles.

I'm not creating them yet, but i would like to know how to create an article when I'm ready. Chewie1138 (talk) 06:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Chewie1138. Welcome to the Teahouse. Please read WP:YFA.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Chewie1138, the easiest way to create a page is to create a draft, with the name of your article, (i.e. Draft:Example if I wanted article Example,) and then to write the draft as you normally would. When you have finished, you can place the template {{subst:submit}} at the top, and a user called an "AfC Reviewer" (AfC for Articles for Creation, which is what this process is called) will come and look review it. If it is declined, the reviewer will leave some suggested changes in order for the draft to be accepted. When you have made those changes, you can re-add the template {{subst:submit}} to see have it re-reviewed. If it is accepted, the reviewer will move it to mainspace, thus making it an article! For more info on how AfC works, see here, and for a guide to creating your first article, see here. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 07:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Jackie Robinson Training Complex

Apparently a sports facility in Florida has been rebranded. The article describing it has been correspondingly moved, and is now at Jackie Robinson Training Complex. However, before the move, a user (whose username suggests a connection with the subject) has heavily edited the article, including removing all references and categories, hence it is now tagged as unref'd and uncat'd. As I see it, I cannot just restore the previous good edit, and I cannot manually add back the refs, because the content to which they relate has been largely changed. (I can add back the cats, obviously, but that's the least of the problems.) I don't know how to deal with this, could someone please advise and/or action? Thanks -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DoubleGrazing,  Restored Firestar464 (talk) 07:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, DoubleGrazing. In the future, click the article's "History" tab and scroll down to the version just before the disruption started. Click on the date/time of that version, and then click "Edit", and verify that this is the most recent good version. Now, leave an edit summary, click "Publish changes" and the undamaged version of the article will be restored. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: Ah, the good ol' Gordian Knot solution — love it! And there was me trying to overcomplicate things. :) Cheers, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Cullen328: I know how to restore earlier versions, my problem was that I assumed that the substantial edits (in connection which, the refs were removed) were valid and should not be just rolled back. But it seems I was wrong. Thanks, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DoubleGrazing, the manual revert procedure I suggested is not the same as rollback, which is a much more aggressive procedure that should be reserved for overt, unambiguous vandalism, libel and the like. That's why I said that you should verify the version you reverted to. If there was some useful content in the intervening versions, you can copy that and paste it back into the article with an explanatory edit summary. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for using the term 'rollback' incorrectly, my bad. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

need article edited

Hi, I have an article in my sandbox which I like to see instead of the one at 'Gympie Pyramid'. I hope someone has the time to have a look, edit or change what he doesn't like and post the remains. I could upload, but in my experience even with the smallest and well founded change someone comes along and interferes, does the change himself. So I need help if Wiki policy is, that no newbie can change anything. Wikigetsme123 (talk) 07:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikigetsme123, this is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Feel free to be bold. Firestar464 (talk) 07:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Wikigetsme123. There is already an article Gympie Pyramid, and the best course of action is to make incremental changes to the existing article instead of trying to write a completely new version of the article. That may be perceived as disrespectful to the previous editors who worked on that article. That could possibly lead to arguments with the prior editors. I suggest that you gradually add impeccably referenced new content, and gradually remove content you believe to be poorly referenced, explaining why in edit summaries. That's the best course of action, in my opinion. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Cullen328, and I would add that if any of the other editors have an issue with the changes that you are making, you should pause and discuss on the article talk page. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 07:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

What's new in User:Wikigetsme123/sandbox is largely unreferenced. As you add material to Gympie Pyramid, Wikigetsme123, make sure that each part of it is clearly linked to a reliable, independent, published source. This is slightly complicated here, because as it stands the article cites what we can politely call "fringe" sources. Articles normally shouldn't do this, but it can be permissible (even commendable) in some circumstances. Certainly the reader shouldn't get the impression from the article as a whole that a "fringe" interpretation is the most convincing one. -- Hoary (talk) 08:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks everybody for the input. This a well written article with poor information in it. The photo was wrong and two web links were dead. Nobody cares ... until I change a little thing. So I will add my additions to this existing article and really hope that no one of the experienced editors here reverse it just because of... Lets see. The information comes straight out of online publications, all with references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigetsme123 (talk • contribs) 07:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I want to creat article about a village in India

What if the article of of a village already exists and I want to create article with that same name but about village from different district ? 106.220.85.12 (talk) 08:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, IP editor. Create it as a draft with a title like "Village, District". I think some Indian states and other areas have local conventions like "Village (District)", but the Manual of Style (here) recommends the style with the comma, for instance Tanur, Malappuram. If and when the draft is accepted, the reviewer might move it to a differently-styled title if that conforms to the local convention, but you don't need to be concerned about that when you create the draft. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

And consider WP:REGISTER. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Hi and what about if in a district two villages have similar name ? For my instance I want to create a article about my village ' Ghodasgaon' which is present in Jalgaon district of Muktainagar taluka but already a article about different village of same name existing on WP - Ghodasgaon it's a village in Shirpur taluka of my district. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 10:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Ghodasgaon says: "a village in Shirpur Taluka of Dhule district, Maharashtra". That is not the same district as you say about your village. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Not sure. Can you add another subdistrict, or east/west/north/south? Perhaps this list of places named Washington can inspire you. But even if you should pick a "wrong" title, that can be changed later. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Hi , Ok I got it ! What if I wrote title like - Ghodasgaon (District-Jalgaon).Will be okay as WP standards ? 106.220.85.12 (talk) 10:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Follow the existing pattern in Category:Villages in Jalgaon district. There are two systems so it could be "Ghodasgaon, Jalgaon district" or "Ghodasgaon, Jalgaon". I examined some other subcategories of Category:Villages in Maharashtra and they don't include "district" in article names so I would go with "Ghodasgaon, Jalgaon". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Why not Ghodasgaon, Jalgaon, like Bonadea suggested? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter , Gråbergs Gråa Sång I created Draft : Ghodasgaon (District - Jalgaon) but the problem is that there are no sufficient reference for elevation , area density , History , Geography etc. Will you help to make this article GA. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If references are insufficient, an article cannot be created. -- Hoary (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

how to make your custom sign?

I've seen people have a custom sign after they reply. How can I make one for my self? Niger banda (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Niger banda, welcome to the Teahouse. See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Niger banda: You may also want to see Wikipedia:Signature tutorial. :) Take care to follow a hint displayed in bold in the lead part of the tutorial. CiaPan (talk) 10:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

CiaPan ,PrimeHunter thank you so much :)Niger banda (talk) 08:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I just submitted my first draft

What next do I do? Here’s my Draft:Oxlade (singer) on the Nigeria artist Oxlade and not to be confused with the English artist Jocelyn Oxlade, also known as Oxlade. JudeJnr (talk) 12:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

JudeJnr Hi Ok you just submitted your first darft.Now it can take long time to be reviewed and approved.Till you can improve it by adding new info and citing reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.220.85.12 (talk) 12:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok, would see to that.--JudeJnr (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

JudeJnr Hello you editing skills looking good. You can create new articles on Musicians , Politician , Sportsmen , Village and towns around you , edit and improve existing article about your interest. Cheers 106.220.85.12 (talk) 13:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank You, took out time studying series of exiting articles and also ensure they met WP:NPOV, following the code of conduct; governing this system. Would try something new on entrepreneur.--JudeJnr (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If you meant what happens to the draft, a review can take place within days, weeks, or (sadly) months. The system is not a queue. If accepted, the reviewer will more it to mainspace and remove Draft: from the name. A tag may be added to distinguish it from the other Oxlade. Once in mainspace it can take up to 90 days before it will be visible to a search conducted at Google or other search engine. David notMD (talk) 14:41, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

The visibility, sounds amazing David notMD. More like the page will be optimized within the period of 90 days on a search engine.--JudeJnr (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Can I suggest a topic here for an editor, then someone can start with creating a profile page?

There is a Thailand-based football player, I think he is a lot deserving for the Wikipedia page. I am new on Wiki and don't have an idea about article writing, but I can suggest a topic for the editor. I can share all details that I have for the person if someone is interested. 103.84.81.198 (talk) 12:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would correct you in that Wikipedia does not have "profile pages", not one. Wikipedia has articles. You are welcome to suggest articles at Requested Articles; however, the backlog there is severe and it may be some time, if ever, before your request is acted upon. You are correct to be cautious about article writing, as it is the hardest thing to do here. We don't just share information/details about people, we summarize what independent reliable sources say about subjects. I will say though that if you have reviewed the Wikipedia definition of a notable football player and believe this person meets it, and you have at least three independent reliable sources to support that, you can take your time creating a draft using Articles for Creation, and you can submit that draft for a review by other editors before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. You may wish to read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse - WP have backlog of requested articles.So I suggest you to learn how to edit on WP.Observe other articles about football like Lionel Messi and first experiment in your sandbox.Cite reliable sources from Newspaper website's articles like big one BBC , website of top news channel's of your country. You can make article only about notable people. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 13:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Awaiting re-review

Hello, Having made all the required changes to my draft, it has been pending re-review now for nearly two months. Is there anything I can do to alert the reviewer, who initially declined it, or another reviewer who can take a look? Many thanks Ukuser691 (talk) 14:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Ukuser691 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As noted on your draft, "This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,829 pending submissions waiting for review." You will need to continue to be patient. You can contact users who have previously reviewed the draft, their names are linked to in the decline notice) but it may or may not help. 331dot (talk) 14:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Bahman Panahi Declined in January and now Declined again March 2. See comments left by reviewers. My comment is delete the Exhibitions list. Wikipedia articles are not intended to contain all mentions of a person's accomplishments. The text already mentions major solo exhibitions. David notMD (talk) 14:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for inviting me to the teahouse

How can I be a strong user in Wikipedia to be able to edit protected Wikipedia content?  Hossein norouzi 306 (talk) 14:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hossein norouzi 306 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you wish to edit a protected article, you may post to the relevant article talk page, detailing what it is that you feel should be edited. For example, the talk page of Joe Biden is Talk:Joe Biden. You may wish to use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hossein norouzi 306: See more at Wikipedia:Protection policy. Most protected articles are only semi-protected. You can edit those when your account is four days old and has made ten edits. You only miss 16 hours and one edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Hossein norouzi 306, and welcome to the Teahouse from me too. To add to what the other editors have replied: I recommend you be cautious before you edit a semi-protected article. Have a look at the article's talk page, and see what has been going on. Some articles are semi-protected because they have had a spate of vandalism - that is, editing simply to damage Wikipedia - and if that is why the article has been protected, then if you have something to contribute, go ahead! But other articles are protected because they have been contentious and often people have been trying to continue a real-world conflict in the pages of Wikipedia. If an article you wish to edit is one of those, I urge you to read the Talk page and its archives carefully to see if the edit you want to make has already been discussed; and in any case, unless it is something trivbial like correcting a misspelling, think about discussing your proposed change on the talk page first. See BRD. --ColinFine (talk) 17:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Reset password

My email provider has discontinued its email service. For this reason, I cannot reset my password as the Wiki system does not allow another way than the email. Please advise on how I can recover my account. 41.13.224.235 (talk) 15:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunally we are unable to do so in any case. In some cases (if the account had signed the confidentially agreement or the account had a Committed identity, the developers might be able to assist. However, I have no Idea on how to contact these folks or what kind of evidence they require. In all other cases you only can create a new account with a different username. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

That is actually quite pathetic. But none the less I will soldier forth. Interesting how people in Wiki with contacts inside can “steal” profile names once the owner of that profile has moved on.

They can't (and even if they could, they wouldn't bother trying to steal an account with less rights than their main one when they can just create their own). Nobody on Wikipedia's end has access to any sort of password for any account, despite what Victor Schmidt implies above. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 16:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I think they mean "usurping", which you can't do if the account has made any appreciable amount of edits at all (any edits at all usually is sufficient), and the definition of "insider" for usurpation is, basically, has a couple of months of non-problematic edits. Beyond that, the only thing that would transfer is the username. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Passwords are not stored anywhere so nobody can access them (see key derivation function if you wonder how users can log in when the servers don't know their password). But some developers have access to set a new email address for an account so a temporary password can be mailed. They do it rarely in special circumstances like users with advanced user rights or large edit counts. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter actually describes what I mean. The devs sometimes (very rarely) might use their access to set the email adress to something different. But as PrimeHunter already says, they will only do it for very few accounts, and you have to convince them that you are the actual account owner (thats why I mentioned the commited identity and the confidentially agreement). After all, this is unlikely to happen for 99% of accounts, so you will very likely have to create a new account. A few notes about emails, I recommend that you choose an email provider who will not simply shut down the service, but rather give you a few months (6 is common) beforehand so you can rehome all acocunts based on that adress to a new one. Thats also the reason why I recommend retaining any email confirmation emails, so you know which acocunts you need to find a new home for... Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Gents, thank you for the comprehensive feedback. It is actually very simply, my username Ameshoff is a very unique name to me and I would have loved to use it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.13.250.150 (talk) 04:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Request for Draft Review

Hello! I have made several suggested edits to my current draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roy_S._Herbst) and I would greatly appreciate if someone could take another look at it and let me know what else I can do to get it accepted.

Thanks for any help and feedback! Jcollinsycc (talk) 15:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Jcollinsycc, I'm not a draft reviewer, but just from looking at your draft it seems like you've added many sources. My one suggestion is to add a citation to the personal section. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 17:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Bop34 and GoingBatty! I've decided to remove the section, since it's not particularly necessary or important to the entry. If there's anything else I need to do to get this article accepted, please let me know. It's been in draft space since December and I'm eager to see it as an article. :) Jcollinsycc (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jcollinsycc. All of our core inclusion policies (such as notability, verifiability, neutral point of view, and no original research) converge on aspects of reliable sourcing – so improvement of the sourcing will always make a draft more likely to be acceptable. One thing you might to do here is bone up the attribution of the citations, for better transparency.

To provide one example, right now, with respect to one source you've cited, all the draft provides is a linked title and "Nature, June 2010". I would change that to the following (here, I'm using a citation template; I find them very helpful, because it consistently formats everything automagically, without my need to know any order, but you don't need to do likewise; the point is the addition of a lot more attribution information):

<ref>{{Cite journal|journal=Nature Reviews Drug Discovery|volume=9|issue=423|url=https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd3199.pdf|title=Adaptive BATTLE trial uses biomarkers to guide lung cancer treatment|date=June 2010|doi=10.1038/nrd3199}}</ref>

which will format in the references section as:

"Adaptive BATTLE trial uses biomarkers to guide lung cancer treatment" (PDF). Nature Reviews Drug Discovery. 9 (423). June 2010. doi:10.1038/nrd3199.

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Verifying citations

When copyediting I sometimes like to verify sources. Many sources have no links. When I try to get books or articles I am successful about 30% of the time using JSTOR, Internet Archive, WorldCat. Are there other ways of getting references? OodFloo (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

For Books, try Special:BookSources. It has more options. For web content that is missing the actual URL, try searching for the title at least on the main google search and Google Scholar. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

HathiTrust if you belong to an institution that has access. Urve (talk) 01:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Is it possible to take extra action against someone who is deliberately adding WP:OR (in the form of spoilers for future episodes of a web series I like, which is annoying me)?

There is this IP at 41.58.xxx.xxx who has twice added thousands of bytes worth of (possibly fake or stolen from the production company) episode summaries at List of Talking Tom and Friends (TV series) episodes, and as someone who is interested in the show but doesn't have the time to frequently patrol the article, I am getting really annoyed by that person (to be honest, it's not so bad if the plots added are fake, but if they are real and stolen from the production company, I am definitely going to hate that person more than anyone else for spilling the beans very annoyed). Since it's not just a single dynamic IP range, an IP block won't help, and since this is the second time in 4 weeks, it is also probably a slow-motion vandal. I've warned the address that most recently did this, but I don't want to have to wait till he does it 2 or 3 more times to warrant protection.

Is it possible to have someone either:

• add Pending Changes Protection till either:
  • the end of May (which is when each new season of the web series usually starts)?

OR

• add the page to their watchlist and revert anyone suspiciously adding a large amout of unreferenced text to the article?

And by the way, would a revdel be necessary for all the "fake" episodes just in case the plots are real and the production company responsible for the series complains? Ignore the struck-out request, I should have realised that this was overkill. Thanks, 45.251.33.129 (talk) 16:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

First of all, you seem to be getting worked up, which you shouldn't be. Second, please remember to assume good faith. I'm not sure what you mean by "I am definitely going to hate that person more than anyone else for spilling the beans". If they are adding summaries for future episodes then they are obviously fake. Try requesting page protection. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 17:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

45's statement that someone is leaking future episode content is plausible. Page protection with a time limit can be proposed. David notMD (talk) 20:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I guess I did let my feelings get in the way of my reasoning, so I suppose I could have written this in a more polite way... And I personally don't think that WP:GOOD FAITH could be applied when someone adds spoilers for future episodes, since I don't know why anyone would like spoilers. (By "I am definitely going to...", I meant that I hated them a lot (though now that I think of it, hate was definitely too strong a word)). As for requesting page protection, I chose not to directly ask for it at WP:RFPP since this was only the second time that person added the content, while many of the requests I've seen have been declined for more active vandalism. But I would appreciate it if someone here added the protection till the end of May. 45.251.33.24 (talk) 01:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC) (I'm on a dynamic IP range)

Edits Need citation

I'm trying to edit my employers wikipedia page : American Society of Echocardiography. I updated it in September and then today noticed it had been reverted to an old version. I retrieved my changes and tried to add more citations, but just wanted to check what else I could do to keep the newest revision in place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Echocardiography Ase2021 (talk) 16:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ase2021: before you go any further, please review WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the required disclosures. Failure to do so results in the save button disappaering sooner or later. Articles aren't locked to prevent a particular version from being changed. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ase2021: Welcome to the Teahouse! I reverted your changes and added some information on your talk page about Wikipedia's username policy and conflict of interest editing. You're welcome to suggest edits on the article talk page Talk:American Society of Echocardiography with the {{request edit}} template. GoingBatty (talk) 16:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Ase2021, You really shouldn't be editing your employer's page as you have a clear WP:COI. It's general practice not to edit if you have a COI, but you can send a COI edit request on the talk page. Looking at your edits, it is clear that they are promotional. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 16:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

What you added twice, reverted twice, was a huge amount of content of what the society says about itself (Mission Statement, Strategic goals, Membership benefits, blah, blah, blah). None of that belongs in the article. As already mentioned, the avenue open to you is to go to the article's Talk page and propose changes. David notMD (talk) 20:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ase2021: Your edits were also blatant copyright violations. I have let you a note about this on your talk page. Don't ever do that again.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:35, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to cite from a physical, ebook book to a article ?

How can we show refrence from a book, a Journal and physical newspaper. 106.220.85.12 (talk) 16:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

See Template:Cite book, Template:Cite journal and Template:Cite news, respectively. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 16:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How can I go about contributing to a portal that seems mostly inactive?

Hi, I'm an electrical engineering student wanting to contribute to the electronics portal, but it just so happens that it seems pretty inactive. I've made a few edits already, I'm just wondering if it's okay to go ahead and continue editing, and make sure I'm not stepping on anyone's toes. FemboyCircuits (talk) 16:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

FemboyCircuits, Yeah it's okay, you can keep going. Seems kinda odd though; I would've figured that big things like that wouldn't be inactive. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 17:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @FemboyCircuits: Welcome to the Teahouse! It's clear that you're editing in good faith, and using the edit summary field well to describe your edits. Continue to be bold and make improvements. If someone doesn't agree with your edit and reverts it, then discuss it on the Portal talk page per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Reliable citations

FYI

 – Created section header. GoingBatty (talk) 17:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you have 'reliable citations' and have multiple sources of the same website? From Jajajay Jajajay (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jajajay: Welcome to the Teahouse! Yes, an article can have more than one reliable source from the same website. However, the article should have sources from multiple independent sources. GoingBatty (talk) 17:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Breach of Peace

 Courtesy link: Draft:Breach of Peace (novella)

Why can't I make an article about an unpublished book? It can be improved after it is published right? I feel unjustified. This novella is something I feel like is notable, because there are many articles on books that are written by Fans, who wrote it neutrally, and they are considered notable. I'm not a fan yet, but I feel I can make this article. I did not break my neutral point of view in the article. The article was not financially involved with the author. All my refrences were relaible, and don't tell me that novels that aren't released can't be put here. If so, why are unreleased TV shows, episodes, and movies put up here?

I'm sorry if I was insulting. Danglerofhell (talk) 17:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Notability

FYI

 – Combined sections. GoingBatty (talk) 18:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you give me a notability criteria? Danglerofhell (talk) 17:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Danglerofhell: Welcome to the Teahouse - see Wikipedia:Notability (books). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Danglerofhell. See WP:BKCRYSTAL; which will refer you to WP:CRYSTAL, which will refer you to WP:N (notability). Based on the fact that ever single source you have cited in the draft has had no utility whatever in demonstrating any notability—as we use that word here, and not as you have interpreted it in a vernacular manner to mean something else (every single one being primary and non-independent)—do not waste any more of your own time. In short, barring the unearthing of reliable, secondary, independent sources that treat the topic in substantive detailTemplate:Z21, the future publication of this novella is not notable at this time, as it simply has not been the subject of reliable, independent publication by third parties, and no article can be written that will be acceptable right now.

It is not unjustified; it is in keeping with what an encyclopedia is. In effect, you're like a person who wants to submit for publication in an atlas something that sort of looks like a map, but isn't actually one, and are here saying it's unfair that you've been told "but that's not what an atlas covers". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, User:GoingBatty and User:Fuhghettaboutit - I will add that unreleased movies and TV shows also are normally not considered notable, although we are inconsistent about them, and we have articles on unreleased movies that we probably shouldn't have. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, WP:OTHERSTUFF and all that, but (I write this for the OP; I know you, Robert, know this), we also have articles on upcoming events that are highly anticipated enough, that multiple reliable, secondary independent sources write about the upcoming release.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

vitamin D tablets

What is vitamin C used for. Foldfox2707celtichut (talk) 17:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Foldfox2707celtichut: See the Vitamin C and Vitamin D articles. GoingBatty (talk) 18:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Notability of potential subject: singer / songwriter Lainey Wilson

Hello. I have been hired by a management company to create a Wikipedia entry for Nashville Singer / Songwriter Lainey Wilson. Before I begin the Wikipedia process, I thought it best to start here and make sure that she meets the notability requirement. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Craig.volt (talk) 17:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

She needs to be the subject of significant, independent, published work. Basically, people who are not her or associated with her need to have written about her life and work (i.e. not her personal website, her employers, or work that was "written for hire" about her, press releases also do not count, etc.). It is those independent, reliable sources that are needed so that an article can be written. The indicator of notability is the independent source texts. --Jayron32 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Craig.volt: Welcome to the Teahouse! See WP:PAID and WP:SINGER. GoingBatty (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Craig.volt, Welcome to the Teahouse - for the very first start it might be a good idea making yourself familiar with the principles of conflict of interest editing at WP:COI, then WP:YFA and for your subject WP:NMUSIC. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Craig.volt. Thank you for being up front about your task. Please be aware that creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks there is for an inexperienced editor; and it is many times harder if they have a COI. Have you read Your first article?

Another take on what Jayron said is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. . You may also want to show Wilson the page An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing: make her aware that if you succeed in getting an article about her published, it will not belong to her, and neither she nor you will have any control over its contents. --ColinFine (talk) 19:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I fixed Template:Univision programming Since Dulce Ambición has ended it has changed to La hija del embajador

I fixed Template:Univision programming Since Dulce Ambición has ended it has changed to La hija del embajador — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsJustdancefan (talk • contribs) 18:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Template:Univision programming @ItsJustdancefan: it looks like one of your edits was partially reverted. You should discuss on the template talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How do you make pages?

I don't know how to make pages. Can someone please help? KTT ^{Talk :D contribz} — Preceding undated comment added 18:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

While I am not a Teahouse Host, I can assist you with your question. There are two ways to create articles. For beginner editors the recommended way is AFC(Articles For Creation) because you can get help from AFC reviewers. Another way is to search for a non-existent article and create an article for it. However, it can be seen and be deleted if you don't follow Wikipedia's policies. Happy Editing, SoyokoAnis 18:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)!

KTTcontributes, please have a closer look at WP:YFA .... hope that helps. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out!KTT ^{Talk :D contribz}

How do you make a audio recording of a page?

Im wondering about how to do this. Starman2377 (talk) 19:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC) Starman2377 (talk) 19:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not familiar with the technical process, but I think the Spoken Wikipedia WikiProject is what you might be looking for. 331dot (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Non-free logo template

Does anyone have the code to cut and paste into a logo file for a logo with non-free use credentials? I tried to follow the instructions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_use_rationale_logo but I guess I erred because I ended up getting blocked. Advice greatly appreciated. Jallerso (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Jallerso, and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't know why you think you have been blocked: I can't find any evidence of it, and you still seem to be able to edit. The logo will be removed from Commohns because Commons accepts only freely licensed material. Logos can usually be uploaded to Wikipedia itself, as non-free media; but only if their use meets all the criteria in the non-free content criteria - two of which are that they may be used only in articles (not drafts), and that they must be used in at least one article. The time to consider uploading the logo then is after your draft has been accepted as an article. In the meantime, you can work on turning your draft from a piece of marketing puff into an encyclopaedia article. For example, a list of devices, OS's and languages supported in the first sentence is not appropriate - probably not appropriate anywhere, but certainly not there. Remember that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 21:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Jallerso. To be absolutely clear, acceptable non-free images should be uploaded here on the English Wikipedia. They are not allowed on Wikimedia Commons. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jallerso: If you use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard, you'll be prompted with all the options, and then you don't have to deal with the template. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Feel free to edit expand my draft

Hi recently I created three articles on WP , will you contribute to expand them ? They are - Draft : Ghodasgaon (District - Jalgaon) , Draft : Kothadi and Draft : Jalgaon housing scam.These article can serve you great space for contribution. Cheers 106.220.85.12 (talk) 20:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

106.220.85.12 Teahouse hosts volunteer to answer question on how to edit Wikipedia, but are not here to help improve drafts. You are likely the person most knowledgeable about Jalgoan, Kothadi and Ghodasgaon. The responsibility falls on you to improve these drafts while waiting for reviewers. David notMD (talk) 20:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

David notMD Okay , I got it ! I also naive.New to WP , learning by mistakes.But I thought some editors if looking for some article to contribution then they can edit them. Cheers 106.220.85.12 (talk) 20:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I found the draft on the housing scam interesting and between today and yesterday, have tackled it in some length and depth.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does have a place to request articles get written by other editors (see Wikipedia:Requested articles), but there is a HUGE backlog. And, as you can see from above, sometimes a Teahouse volunteer will aid with more than just advice (at times, me too). David notMD (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

IP signature with no question

 2402:800:63A4:DFE3:E4BA:38AE:65B8:BBD (talk) 21:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Do you have a question?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard vs Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources

If I'm looking to talk about if something is reliable for a gaming subject, which should I default to? Should I go to one before the other? Tyrone Madera (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Tyrone Madera. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard (RSN) is a community-wide noticeboard for discussing particular sources and any consensus reached there would take precendance over anything decided at the WikiProject level per WP:CONLEVEL. You can ask for assistance at the WikiProject and perhaps its members will be able to help you out, and then bring things up for further discussion at RSN if no agreement can be reached over the reliablity of a source.

Generally, RSN is best for resolving a dispute between multiple editors as to whether a particular source is reliable for the context in which it's being cited, while a WikiProject might be a good place to ask a general question about sourcing (e.g. What types of sources are reliable for gaming subjects?) since the members of the project might have a "list" of sources they generally consider OK to cite for video game articles. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit request for to reflect 117th Congress

Submitting one additional edit request for this page to reflect that it is now the 117th Congress, not 116th. Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Johnson_(Louisiana_politician)

Change: James Michael Johnson (born January 30, 1972) is an American attorney, politician, and former talk radio host serving as the U.S. Representative for Louisiana's 4th congressional district. First elected in 2016, he is also the chairman of the House Republican Study Committee, a coalition of socially- and fiscally-conservative members of the larger House Republican Conference.

To: James Michael Johnson (born January 30, 1972) is an American attorney, politician, and former talk radio host serving as the U.S. Representative for Louisiana's 4th congressional district. First elected in 2016, he is also the Vice Chairman of the House Republican Conference. He previously served as chairman of the House Republican Study Committee, the largest coalition of socially- and fiscally-conservative members of House Republican Conference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Chairman_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_Republican_Conference 143.231.249.135 (talk) 21:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Place to ask is on Talk page of the article in question. Or just make the change. But you will have to put that URL in proper reference format. Look at other website refs in the article and mimic those. David notMD (talk) 22:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

How to use images from others that I have permission?

I obtained the permission to use Dr. Michael Sawaya's X-ray crystallographic image of 20 amino acids. How do I added it to the wiki site since this image is not my own work?

Shuguang Zhang, Ph.D.

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 ShuguangZhang4 (talk) 22:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, ShuguangZhang4, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that, because of Wikipedia's fundamental purpose, to make information available to anybody for any purpose, permission to use an image in Wikipedia is not acceptable. The only way to do this is if Dr Sawaya himself (not you) chooses to license the image under CC-BY-SA, which will allow anybody to reuse or alter it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute. If he is willing, he can either upload it to Wikimedia Commons himself, or can send a mail as specified in donating copyright materials. I have removed the contact information address from above: it is a bad idea to publish them in such a public site as this. --ColinFine (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If edits are approved or rejected

Hello, I am wondering when and how I will know if the contributions I made to a wikipedia site will be approved or rejected? Will i receive an email? How will i know when the decision has been made? Thank you Nicole Snively Nicole Snively (talk) 23:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Nicole Snively and welcome to the Teahouse. For most pages, once you've edited content and hit the 'Publish changes' button, your edits will appear immediately. Except for certain 'protected pages' there is no approval process. However, if your edit is not deemed acceptable, or perhaps not supported by references, or in some other way inappropriate, another editor may revert them immediately. You should see a red alert symbol at the top of the page notifying you of any such 'revert'. But you can always go to the 'View History' tab and check if a subsequent edit has removed your own. There should be an 'edit summary' alongside it which explains why that edit was made. (further explanation to follow shortly) Nick Moyes (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nicole Snively: I note these two good faith edits were made by you, but reverted as 'Vandalism' by NoahDavid771 just two minutes later (see here). However, I've since appreciated that he immediately left you a clear and valid explanation for their removal on your own talk page. i.e. it was a non-neutral edit with too much of your own opinion within it.I completely disagree with their initially-stated rationale, even if your comments were not as neutral as befits an encyclopaedia, as we might have wished (see answer to your follow-up question below, which explains why it was removed, and further comment from me) which I'm sure 'vandalism' as a reason was an error, so I am pinging them in the hope they will come here to explain their reasoning. (The normal way we do things is to suggest that one editor goes to the reverting editor's talk page and politely asks them to explain their rationale to you for reverting. The way you have done it below in your follow-up question would never have reached that editor, so I will remove it shortly) I'm sure there must be a logical explanation, and I apologise if you feel your efforts were not appreciated, but removing content that doesn't fit in with our style of voice is quite common. But vandalism it certainly wasn't. Please don't let that put you off - with 6,000,000+ articles to maintain, we can all make mistakes sometimes Nick Moyes (talk) 23:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC) (note: I've subsequently edited this post multiple times for clarity & accuracy)

@Nick Moyes:, @Nicole Snively: I used the RedWarn interface to revert it and it appears I misclicked. I gave you a reason on your talk page.

Hello NoahDavid771

To NoahDavid771

I see that my contributions were rejected on February 24th. I wonder why they were rejected as I got my information from credible scholarly articles. Could this be reconsidered?

Thank you Nicole Snively Nicole Snively (talk) 23:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Nicole Snively:. For future reference, it is better to talk to your reverter on their own user talk page. You were not rejected for not having reliable sourcing, rather, you were reverted for not having a neutral point of view. From looking at diffs, the quotes "what was forgotten by some," "It is unfortunate to think" "pivotal moment in nursing and the nurses experience" "Another significant part" are examples of some non-NPOV stuff. Please read over WP:NPOV fully to understand what we mean by NPOV. Thank you! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 23:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nicole Snively: I seem to be making a bit of a hash of answering you, tonight. I have just noticed that you did, in fact, receive this perfectly clear explanation from the reverting editor, right after they removed your edit. Did you not see the notification that told you of a message on your userpage? My initial concerns that they thought your edit was vandalism is therefore not the case. To learn how to engage with another editor, you might with to read this page, though just replying to that message on your user talk page should have sufficed had you needed further feedback. Best, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Teahouse exchange

The summary of what led to a previous Teahouse exchange on 23:37, 22 February can be found in the second paragraph here. Attempted to reach out to User:David notMD, but views it as as a horsemeat. They do not seem understand I am trying to reach compromise with a user. User:Hostagecat had broken off from discussion after raising many concerns erroneous in nature that I think need to be examined (i.e. should AllMusic no longer be designated a reliable source under WP:RSMUSIC?) and then filed a report, which User:EdJohnston accepted without vetting if its claims were actually accurate and gave me a warning. Or perhaps they simply do not want to weight in. According to David notMD, "Content is totally outside my realm of knowledge (I'm an old white guy)". Either way, I am simply looking for a someone to serve as mediator between Hostagecat and I to enhance our communication. If you can assist in initiating a resolution or point towards the direction of an editor whose purview this falls under or is in some way interested, I would greatly appreciate it. -- Ascribe4 (talk) 23:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC) Ascribe4 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ascribe4: You may want to try WP:3O, but have either of you and Hostagecat had a serious discussion about whatever you're arguing about? I see an attempt at User talk:Hostagecat#O:D Reply = but nothing more from there. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

How to completely, thoroughly, totally, and permanently delete a Wikipedia account?

How to completely, thoroughly, totally, and permanently delete a Wikipedia account? Ala.academics (talk) 00:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ala.academics: While accounts themselves cannot be deleted, you can be renamed and have your user pages removed. See WP:DELETEACCOUNT. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 00:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I insert a logo from Chinese Wikipedia into English Wikipedia?

I'm trying to conveniently move the logo for Initium Media from the Chinese Wikipedia equivalent to English Wikipedia version of the page. Is there an easy and convenient way to do this or do I have to start the process all over again? Here is the link to the logo: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Initium_Media_logo.svg Tyrone Madera (talk) 00:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: I recommend you download the logo to your computer, and then use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to upload it to the English Wikipedia. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Wouldn't this require filling out the template all over again? Can I copy the answers from the Chinese wiki template? Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: File:Initium Media logo.svg looks correct to me. Good work. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks! :) Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Population statistics

FYI

 – Added section header. GoingBatty (talk) 00:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I've noticed usually every year each city/county in the United States gets a updated estimated population statistic but I noticed in 2020 city of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County have not, nor has New York City. Could the pandemic be a reason why? Does anyone know when the statistics will update? Hgh1985 (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hgh1985: If you didn't know, there was a census held that year, and processing was delayed due to COVID-19. Other users can correct me, but I don't think that data is available yet. If it is available, it's just a case that nobody's taken up the task of updating the figures. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Why accounts themselves cannot be deleted?

Why accounts themselves cannot be deleted? Ala.academics (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ala.academics: Please read the link I sent you in the above post you made. It says why. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 00:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Digitics247

 RealShivaaa (talk) 03:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@RealShivaaa: Welcome to the Teahouse! Do you have a question about Wikipedia! GoingBatty (talk) 04:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@RealShivaaa:, you have created Draft:Digitics247, which is a blatant advertisement for a company, and which therefore should be deleted. This is an encyclopedia, not a PR outlet. -- Hoary (talk) 04:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: I think these things should be brought up on the User talkpages or elsewhere, and not at the Teahouse unless brought up by the user or directly related to their statements and/or questions. This user literally hasn't said anything, so the comment comes across as aggressive.Tyrone Madera (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

RealShivaaa titled the section Digitics247, so in my opinion the question was implied and Hoary's reply warranted. David notMD (talk) 08:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I improve my article?

Hi, my article has been rejected twice and I am afraid of publishing it the third time. I added references as requested, changed the write-up but still got rejected. Please give me feedback on what I need to change here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Grant_Proposal_Video#Grant_proposal_videos_are_videos_versions_of_written_proposals_used_by_nonprofits_to_raise_funds_for_their_projects.

Thanks so much! Videos4world (talk) 06:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

The primary purpose of this draft seems to be giving advice. Giving advice isn't something that Wikipedia does. It just recycles published facts from reliable sources. So the draft shouldn't say for example "A proposal video should have a mission statement of its organisation within the storyline" (my emphasis), as it now does; instead it should say for example Three studies found that around 80% of successful proposal videos submitted to grant organizations in northwest Europe from 2016 to 2019 had mission statements whereas 60% of unsuccessful proposal videos did not.^[1][2][3], with each of those three index numbers pointing to a study published in a (non-vanity) academic journal or similar. -- Hoary (talk) 08:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia as a source

What if the only other source is Wikipedia? Jajajay (talk) 06:42, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

If the only potential sources for a particular subject are in Wikipedia, then it's not a subject that can have an article in Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 07:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Https issues

I was changing links from http to https on Cleveland, Tennessee, and when i tried to publish it, it said a link to a blacklisted site had been added. The problem is, i didn't add a link. All i did was change http to https. Any ideas on what to do about this. Chewie1138 (talk) 07:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

That's odd indeed. What's the page you want to link? (You can write it out here like "https :// www. spamcornucopia. com/ nigerianmillions .html".) -- Hoary (talk) 07:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: it was https:// www.city-data .com/zipmaps/Cleveland-Tennessee.html, based on the spam blacklist log Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Watchlist

Hello everybody, I had fun looking at watchlist stuff, including the 1000 most watched pages, Rawe ki te kite Te Hauturu-o-Toi. My question is, are there pages no-one watches? Should they be listed at the "things to do" sort of pages. Brunswicknic (talk) 07:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Such pages do indeed exist. There are thousands of them, but the vast majority aren't obviously important -- they're the talk pages of IPs that were only fleetingly active, and suchlike. There are currently under a hundred unwatched articles, I believe. The list is visible to administrators. If you'd like to see it, become an administrator! (If it seems a perk of the job, well, there are very few such perks. No chauffeured limos, no country club memberships....) Hoary (talk) 07:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Brunswicknic. Yes, you can watch some obscure pages that have had zero activity for 18 years if you want. But what's the point of that? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk

I am trying to respond back to the individual on talk but am unsure how to respond back. How do I respond back to the individual on his talk in order to prove that the correction was made for approval? Aletahall2021 (talk) 07:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aletahall2021: In order to send a notification, you have to link that person's username and sign in the same edit. I've done so in this response to you. Go into source editing mode and look at how I use Template:Reply to and try the same. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 08:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Loveable_lion

Hello, please can you tell me how to put a jpg file/picture on an edit you've done?

Many thanks Loveable lion.gurl (talk) 09:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)