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"Current" arc

Do you think we could change "Current arc" on the character pages to "______ arc"? Not everyone who reads the articles are going to know what arc they are reading about. Even I don't know which arc they are referring to (not that it matters to me because I'm the kind of person who likes to read the manga and doesn't like to skip too far ahead). This isn't a site only for Naruto fans, you know. // Sasuke-kun27 17:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It is suggested that words like "current" are avoided when possible. Coming up with a name for the arc might be difficult, however. –Gunslinger47 23:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I also agree. I dont even know all of the arcs and you expect me to know the current one? KKIPPES 05:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

User categories

The 27 subcategories of Category:Wikipedians who like Naruto have been nominated for merger into their parent category because they are improperly titled and duplicate the function of their parent cat. --tjstrf talk 02:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Music in Naruto

Hey, I don't know if this is the right place to write this, but there's nothing about the music in the series. Sorry that I used your article, dude, but i was too bored to make an account.

Glitch in the time skip/ages of characters

well this is what I've noticed:

Naruto is AT LEAST 13 years old in episode 1 and 1 year passes at the showing of episode 142. So I have come to this conclusion:

-Naruto is not 15 years old in naruto II but 16-16.5 years if its a 2 1/2 year time skip since the last of the original Naruto manga (before fill arcs) is in episode 135. So by the time naruto leaves with Jiraiya to train he is at least 14 years old. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.60.0.251 (talk) 03:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

Naruto is 12 in episode 1 and 13 by the end of 135. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I do find it funny that he failed the final exam 3 times, but is the same age as everyone else. Assuming the final exam was given twice a year like the chunin exam he could be 13-14 when he joins Team Kakashi couldn't he? ...or... could he have been started earlier since he had no parents to keep him out of trouble. Is there a reference to his exact age anywhere in the manga, anime, or from Kishimoto? shadzar|Talk|contribs 03:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Databooks say so. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Works for me! shadzar|Talk|contribs 04:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Japanese links

I'm in the process of finding out how we go about, the fact, that links to non-English websites are featured so prominently in articles which have a non-English origin. As the guideline stats now "English language links are strongly preferred in the English-language Wikipedia. It may be appropriate to have a link to a foreign-language site, such as when an official site is unavailable in English, when the link is to the subject's text in its original language or they contain visual aids such as maps, diagrams, or tables, per the guideline on foreign-language sites." My suggestion is to use the link which is to the Japanese Wiki version of this article - and others like it. If the article isn't written in the original language, a foreign language link may be used in the article. By the way, isn't [1] and [2] the official links for Naruto in North-America? If so, what is the point of the Japanese links? Havok (T/C/e/c) 20:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

When the series is well ahead of its English counterpart, keeping those links as a good idea. Not to mention the newly-titled series being released in under a month, which isn't so much as hinted at in the English version. When the series gets a little closer, dumping the links might be a good idea, but when only a third or so has been translated, it's best to keep the more updated Japanese versions. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Read my post on this matter and comments about it at Wikipedia talk:External links. Havok (T/C/e/c) 20:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Why use the English site when it's something like 3 years behind? --tjstrf talk 20:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

For referencing, by all means, use the Japanese links, I just don't see the point of having the link in the external links section when most people won't get anything out of it and it takes up space from links which could be used in it's place. Please read my comments in Wikipedia talk:External links. Havok (T/C/e/c) 20:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Growth and Popularity...

It's been deleted. Was it necessary for it to be deleted? RedEyesMetal 16:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there any reason to mention English Naruto fansites? This seems somewhat irrelevant. The number of fansites does not necessarily correspond to popularity. Nor does the existance of a collectable card game. Except for the first and last sentences, this section seems more like a "History of Naruto in English" section. --Nitwit005 02:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Err... Popularity really has little to do with having a card game based on it, there's cards for everything in japan >.> 69.152.95.178 10:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Toad Sage

I know he's not a big caracter, but it would be nice to have an article about him. Wouldn't it?

Sir pwnage 21:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

If you're referring to Jiraiya he already does have his own article--SUIT⁴² 21:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Who's toad sage? You mean Jiraiya? (Or rather, Jiraiya (Naruto)) --tjstrf talk 21:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Let me gues you watch the weak U.S. dub like I used to do.Sam ov the blue sand 22:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay I'm totally lost is there another Toad Sage or something? Because I'm pretty possitive Jiraiya has an artcle already (I was just in it!) . Who exactley are you talking about here?

User:KibaxHinata13 7:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean "not a big character"? Could you at least wait before you believe you know something? Jiraiya, if you don't know already, is a very important character.

Inuzuka Kiba's Looong Day

Okay I'm kind of new to this whole thing about editing pages and stuff so I'm just wondering if there is a limit to the amount of detail one can put into an article. Because a little while back I did a really big edit on the Inuzuka Kiba's Long Day ep. I put so much detail that it was practically the whole ep. but in words. And then later on I went back and found almost everything I put erased. So I'm just curious if there's some unknown law to the amount of stuff you can put (I thought I went through the rules pretty goood too) please and thank you-KibaxHinata13 --209.244.188.217 16:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

While there's really no limit on how much information you can add to an article, it's not necessary to write every last detail. We should try to give the readers as much detail as possible without going overboard. That's probably why it was reverted. // PoeticDecay 16:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles aren't meant to replace watching the original show. They're supposed to be written about an episode. While we could theoretically include every last bit of information about a particular topic, there's no point in wasting our time if it will not be useful. I would say that for most episodes 3-4 sentences is quite enough for a plot summary. Beyond that, it'd probably just be better for the person to watch the actual episode. ~MDD4696 01:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a loosely defined concept called indiscriminate information. In a nutshell, I describe it as such: When including information, ensure that you have a good reason to do so. Including information strictly because it's available is being indiscriminate.

That said, the episode articles are a difficult subject, as there is much opposition to their existence in the first place. Articles should be written from an out-of-universe perspective primarily and be more than mechanical descriptions (i.e. plot summaries), but episode articles have been able to skirt these restrictions thus far thanks to several nuances. –Gunslinger47 02:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

...oh.....I guess I DID go overboard a bit. I had just watched the episode and..well...I'm a huge Kiba fan so I hope that explains it. I guess it is my fault that i can remember every detail of that ep. *blush* Thanks for clearing up my confusion I'll have to remember that for future reference =]

User:KibaxHinata13 07:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Naruto Shippuden interview

Hi all. There is a short interview with Takeuchi Junko and Nakamura Chie (the voice actors for Naruto and Sakura, respectively) at http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/news/20070115_11.html. It's in Japanese of course, but there is a translation posted at http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=6736075&postcount=25. On the original article there is a photograph of a bunch of people... probably the voice actors and animators? It doesn't really say. ~MDD4696 01:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Uh.... what's your point? // PoeticDecay 01:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I think he wants to put the pic from there up in this article.Sam ov the blue sand 22:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I could really add anything to the actual article from that interview, and I don't think it's really worthwhile to upload the image (no copyright information at source, wouldn't be able to make a fair use claim). I was just posting that here so that anyone who maintains this article, or anyone reading it who happens to check the discussion page, could also check it out if they're interested. Now at least we have some record of the interview if at some point in the future there might be some reason to reference it. ~MDD4696 04:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I need to post something.

I am making a book on Naruto, and I want to make an article about it and put it in the Naruto-Wiki. Is that allowed? -- TheAuthorBravado 23:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Unless it becomes a real book (that means getting it published and having it sold all over the country at the least), no. // PoeticDecay 23:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Unless your book is published through a reputable company and gets independent attention from various news sources, no. It wouldn't meet notability guidelines. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

A Question regarding Naruto: Shippūden

Now, I know that the North American release of the anime is lagging far behind. Does anybody know if the producers of the North American release intend on translating all of the filler, certain arcs within the filler, or just skipping to translating Naruto: Shippūden?

On the one hand, it would make sense for the North American dubbers to continue with the filler: Marketing being what it is, I don't doubt that the idea of 80 additional episodes to translate is appealing (and thus, earn DVD sales for and earn advertisement revenue from them). On the other hand, supplementary material like the videogames are lagging roughly three years behind in releases, meaning if they keep the filler the translators will either have to release products which are outdated thanks to the release of the 7th generation consoles OR start translating games with characters which fans won't recognize and spoilers for storylines to come ("Wait, who are Sai and Yamato? Why can't I pick Asuma? Did they make a mistake and put Chouji's dad in his spot? Why the hell is Akamaru the size of a horse? Why does everyone look older?")

Any confirmed information would help the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.151.21.102 (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

If they tried dubbing the two years of filler hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they get cancelled. I have not seen the numbers, but I'm guessing that the dubs aren't seeing the same level of fandom as was seen during Naruto's first run on Tokyo TV. –Gunslinger47 22:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't have a source for this, but I heard Naruto is the highest rated show on CN, which is also significant because it was Dragon Ball Z for a very long time. JuJube 01:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

That would make sense, considering reruns are being shown again. Originally they took the reruns off to show a 1000th daily airing of Kids Next Door, but they put them right back in about a month later...Still, as popular as Dragon Ball Z's first run? I seriously doubt that. Treima 02:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

"Still, as popular as Dragon Ball Z's first run? I seriously doubt that." I just wanted to echo that. –Gunslinger47 03:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Blood Types

Hey all, I dont want to make a somewhat big change before asking around first, but just a suggestion to change the blood type link in the character boxs from blood type to Japan_blood_type_theory_of_personality as it is the main reason why its listed. Has its pros and cons, however I dont see why their blood type would be listed other then for the personailty reasons. NeilHynes 22:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I suggest bringing it up on the template's talk page instead of this one. // PoeticDecay 23:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

It's already mentioned on that page, but no one replied to it. Anyway, I agree that linking to the Japanese blood type theory would be better, or perhaps Blood type#Popular use. –Gunslinger47 23:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Naruto Time Frame

What timeframe is naruto set in anyway? It has stuff from current time, like romance books, cash registers, and hospitals, but it doesn't have simple things like cars and scyscrapers. It confuses me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.74.210.5 (talk) 23:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

It's an entirely fictionalized universe. That said, you are seeing the Naruto universe through the looking glass of hidden ninja villages. Thusfar, we've only seen a glimpse of any major cities. Look to the second last page of chapter 327 for some "skyscrapers". Vehicles might be in common use elsewhere in the world. –Gunslinger47 23:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

In short, it's "Wheneverthehellyouwantittobe" AD. For argument's sake, it can at least be assumed that Naruto is set in modern times. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Either that or Naruto is realy a braindead guy who lives in our time but dreams of bieng a ninja who has awesome adventures.Sam ov the blue sand 23:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, no, no vehicles of the combustion engine nature, or even steam powered ones exist in Naruto's universe, nor do ballistic weaponry and possibly electronic technology exceeding 8-bits of processing. Though, those are the only rules that Kishimoto put down for the series. 69.152.95.178 10:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

• *kicks the first Naruto movie for breaking those rules* ^_^ JuJube 10:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, in the search for Tsunade arc, Tsunade lives in a large city, so thats something modern. Besides, as JuJube|Jujube "actionizes" in the first Naruto movie, the land of snow does have machinery and (I think) guns. User:Guest 18:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Ben 10

In the episode of Ben 10, where they go to the Christmas town, they show three children with Mr.Jingles at the end. These three children are charectors from Naruto. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zatasha (talk • contribs) 23:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

• So? JuJube 00:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

really! thats so cool, i just wish that ben 10 would be on a different time,i always miss it!-hotspot

WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!! *runs off to YouTube to watch episode*75.26.198.154 02:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Just as a question, how is this at all relevant to the article? Treima 02:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Um....i guess it's because the Konohamaru Squad "guest starred" in Ben 10...LOL XD(btw i'm trying to find a pic...)75.26.168.218 21:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Again, how is this relevant to the Wikipedia article about the Naruto series? (Hint: If the word "trivia" is contained in your response, do not pass Go, do not collect $200...) JuJube 21:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, a better response, "I don't believe this warrants mentioned within this article." –Gunslinger47 22:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

But it's not as funny! ^_^ JuJube 22:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

incorrect

"Naruto is the second-most popular ongoing shōnen series in Japan, just behind One Piece"

1-one piece manga may have sold more copies, but naruto anime is far more popular. the comparison isn't straightforward.

2-why confine its popularity to japan; globally i'm certain naruto beats OP with a great margin. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.113.19.111 (talk) 22:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

1-Comparisons of this sort are often based on the manga.

2-It wouldn't surprise me, considering the, ahem, "quality" of the OP dub. However, the statistic is not about worldwide popularity. It is about the popularity in Japan. Curtmack of the Asylum 23:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't Continue

Naruto had ended on Cartoon Network and the series haden't finished, instead Naruto had been replaced with MÄR.Atomic45 05:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

• Uh? JuJube 05:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It's on before Mar, mar didnt replace it.-hotspot

What on Earth are you talking about? they just take a rest between seasons sometimes. Blackcat1313 19:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

9th Season

I think we should change the part to the show is on it's 9th season in japan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ATR2093 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Then change it back in two days when the series ends? –Gunslinger47 01:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

So are we going to make a new article for the Shippuden anime? Or are we just gonna continue using this article? --GhostStalker(Got a present for ya!) 17:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the need. We were able to elegantly add Shippūden to the infobox very easily. –Gunslinger47 21:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, I didnt notice that right there... --GhostStalker(Got a present for ya!) 20:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The fillers are over

The fillers are over with Epi 220 or 221 or something.[3] --24.239.174.223 05:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, but we're quite aware. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

According to Dattebayo, there are still three weeks left! *gasp* :D –Gunslinger47 10:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

What? Nooooooo! You had better be wrong about that. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 19:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Naruto II

Naruto II is a seprate Manga from Naruto, though it is part of the same story line. The Info box between the two should be be split. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lego3400 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

No it isn't. The manga is one continuous story. Only the anime is divided into two separate blocks. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

New Picture

I think we should replace the picture in the info box with a picture of Naruto Shippuden since it is the new series.Themasterofwiki 13:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe once some episodes are released. I don't like what Naruto looks like in any of what's been released so far. It's too bad we can't use this one: [4] :) –Gunslinger47 20:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Even with the new series, we should retain the more familiar one. A second image can be used to illustrate the difference. On that note, we should also include a section to note the different series. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

What about leaving all the Part 1 info on the Naruto pages and migrating all the Part 2 info onto a new set of Shippuden pages? In other words, don't mix the information re. both series. Or is this not feasible with how things are currently set up...The model for what I'm basing this on is what appears to have been done with the Dragonball series; the 3 series are all kept separate from each other but they have a large template tying it all together. Character information though does reflect what is revealed in the series and other incarnations. --BrokenSphere 22:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The main series is separated. The characters aren't. I don't think we have to break it apart yet, not when we can reasonably keep it on one page. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 22:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but didn't I say the same exact thing 3 months ago? Any ways but Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z have some of the same characters too so what makes this series so special that it isn't treated like other articles?Sam ov the blue sand 23:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Personally I think we should keep the infobox's picture what it is, as anyone recognizes the part 1 pictures, but only those at part 2 would recognize a new picture. However there should be a picture of part 2 somewhere in the article once there is more official artwork. NeilHynes - Talk - Contributions - 22:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

What's the use in keeping the old Part 1 images in the main infoboxes now? Shouldn't we go with the most updated versions? The Splendiferous Gegiford 20:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Getting the names right

Could we possibly put the names of the characters the correct way round? Any article on Japanese manga should put the names as they are in the original anime/manga, not the badly done Cartoon Network dub. So, instead of "Naruto Uzumaki" (which sounds wrong for a start) it should become "Uzumaki Naruto" the same goes for all characters in the anime/manga. It is painful to see Kakashi called Kakashi Hatake instead of Hatake Kakashi. 84.67.229.88 17:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

We've already debated this months ago. We use Western order since it's the most common name that most readers (not just fans) will be able to recognize. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 18:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

And isn't this the English Wikipedia? So there's another reason.Sam ov the blue sand 18:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

"Kakashi Hatake" causes you pain? You might have hyperalgesia. The dub is not bad. JuJube 22:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

It's just you're not used to saying it like this just like how I'm not used to saying it your way.Sam ov the blue sand 15:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Awesome New Link

i found a good link for naruto when i put it in i noticed it said not to include anymore links but to put it here and if its good enough, it will be shown on the main page, so im putting it here: http://www.leafninja.com/ check it out. hopefuly it will go on the main page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bvv (talk • contribs) 18:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

A little giltch about networks that Naruto is aired on

There is a giltch in list of networks. In Poland Naruto is aired on Jetix, not on Cartoon Network 89.228.239.244 15:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Pewny_PL

Naruto in Poland

Naruto in Poland is aired in Jetix (since 12.02.07), not Cartoon Network. Pewny_PL's right. pawelek —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.199.251.230 (talk) 15:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Naruto in Poland

Naruto (anime) in Poland is serialized by Jetix PL not Cartoon Network see [5] or [6] and manga is published by JPF see [7] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.25.135.150 (talk) 16:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

Naruto Dates

Does anyone know the dates the Naruto episodes between Season 1 and the end of Season 3 aired in America? I know when they aired in Japan but what about in America. Siraya429 21:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

TV.com — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Siraya429 05:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Language

Just wondering,did Sasuke say da-- it before he passed out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.200.59.115 (talk) 23:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

He probably said chikushō (畜生), if anything. Though, I assume you're referring to the dubs? Which episode? –Gunslinger47 00:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I am referring to the dub,and i'm talking about episode 75.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.200.59.115 (talk • contribs).

He doesn't say "damn it" as far as I could hear. By the way, he doesn't pass out in this episode either, nor at any other point in this encounter. –Gunslinger47 06:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Chakra

the word "chakra" doesnt exist in this article, while for hunterxhunter, "nen" has its own detailed article. so which is right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.218.254 (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

Jutsu (Naruto)#Chakra? –Gunslinger47 18:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Volume and chapter covers

I think you should add a list of volumes and chapters with picture of the covers (like in the one piece manga article)! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.68.250.189 (talk) 19:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Timeframe of filler arc

"The filler arcs, though unreferenced in the manga (save for a few scant scenes), deal with the breaks between manga volumes, which covers a short period before the Sasuke Retrieval arc and several months before the time skip."

Isn't that supposed to be *after* the Sasuke Retrieval arc and before the time skip? 70.77.47.26 23:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The tea race was filler; episodes 102 through 106. –Gunslinger47 00:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the clarification. 70.77.47.26 06:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)