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== Sports Cuts ==
== Sports Cuts ==
Maybe I'm just sick of reading the same narcisstic histrionics from the victims of the sports cuts every day in the student newspaper here at OU, but I think this section is ridiculous. Going to Webster's to define the word "integrity?" This is not (yet another) forum in which to whine about getting your sport cut as if it had never happened at this school or any other. It is an encyclopedia. Get some perspective.
Maybe I'm just sick of reading the same narcissistic histrionics from the victims of the sports cuts every day in the student newspaper here at OU, but I think this section is ridiculous. Going to Webster's to define the word "integrity?" This is not (yet another) forum in which to whine about getting your sport cut as if it had never happened at this school or any other. It is an encyclopedia. Get some perspective.

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Someone should make mention of OU's E.W. Scripps School of Journalism, which is within the College of Communication, since it's one of the premier journalism schools in the country. Said someone should not be me, because I really know very little about the school, other than it's very selective and very prestegious.

Why mention one program at a school without mentioning the others? Ohio University is also known for making many modern discoveries in Physics, for having one of the top Aviation Programs, etc.

First and Finest

I have removed the phrase "is often referred to the first and finest university in Ohio." There are a few reasons. One, I find only scant mention of the phrase being used and in the few examples I saw, it was OU saying so. Second, it's not clear that OU is either the first or finest in the state. Marietta Academy was a degree-granting school founded in 1797 - though not chartered until 1835. Part of this can be blamed on the difficulty in chartering a college where no state government existed (OU and the State of Ohio were founded in 1808 and 1803). As to being the finest, I really am unsure what we are talking about. If this were Harvard's homepage I would have no problem with it saying that Harvard is traditionally recognized as the best university in the United States. I would oppose including empty phrases. Rkevins82 05:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Presidents table

Is this necessary? I don't see many universities that have it, plus it is a red-link table. Rkevins82 - TALK 04:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Presidents Table

That was just the first step of what I was planning for the Ohio University page. Right now I'm working on writing articles about each of the former presidents, but it might take me a little while.

I agree that all the red links look bad at the moment though, perhaps it would be best to remove the table until some more of the articles about former presidents are completed.

However, I have noticed that many universities do have a list of their former presidnets. I didn't do an extensive search, but here are a few:


Kwiksilver 03:45, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Carnegie Foundation

It was named... what?Madmaxmarchhare 02:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


  • Ohio University was named by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching to reflect its growing number of graduate programs. Only four other ins

First and Finest, Revisited

"Ohio's First and Finest" was a school slogan used by the university in the eighties and nineties. The slogan was branded all over campus. That's probably where you heard it. BTW, Ohio University was the first school to be chartered in the Northwest Territory, but that occurred in 1804, not 1808. Also, the State of Ohio was founded in 1803, not 1808. - johnthacker83

MAC Template Inclusion

Template in question:


As it appears on the wikipedia pages of all of the schools in the MAC, I don't see why it shouldn't be included. There is a section of the article on athletics, which the template fits. The school also has to meet requirements for a variety of activities, including the recruiting of all students, because it is a MAC member[1]. Yes, there is an Ohio Bobcats page. The template should certainly be there. I don't, however, see why it shouldn't be in both places. It is maybe five lines long on the average viewer's screen. So why shouldn't it be there? Rkevins82 17:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's related only to sports, not the Uni over-all. It should go on that uni's sports article. If it does not apply to the uni over all, then why is it on the "over all" article? It is a question of putting relevant information in the best place. Just because you can repeat yourself on every article doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so. See Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context "A high density of links can draw attention away from the high-value links that you would like your readers to follow up. Redundant links clutter up the page and make future maintenance harder." But if you really want it there, I don't care that much about this issue. -- Ned Scott 18:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I tried to point out in the initial post, being a member of the MAC means that the university must submit to its rules. This applies to ALL students, not just athletes. Rkevins82 18:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is 20+ years long plagiarism scandal recently discovered notable enough to be included in the main article?

While researching plagiarism, I found many news articles like this one and this one stating that there has been a plagiarism scandal that stretches over twenty years in its mechanical engineering graduate program where even masters' theses were plagiarized. Is that notable enough to include on the article on Ohio University? You can find more if you go to Google News and search for "Ohio University plagiarism". Jesse Viviano 03:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be included, considering how widespread it was and the media attention it brought.Bcirker 02:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. It is not notable piece of information. Most universities have had some sort of scandal which received media attention and they are are not typically included in entries. 26 October 2006


NPOV?

Now, I may be from Central, and this may come off as a little MAC Championship gamesmanship, but the Athletics section is rife with NPOV liberties. I'm not going to lodge a formal complaint, but come on, this ain't a PR piece here.Bveale 04:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sports Cuts

Maybe I'm just sick of reading the same narcissistic histrionics from the victims of the sports cuts every day in the student newspaper here at OU, but I think this section is ridiculous. Going to Webster's to define the word "integrity?" This is not (yet another) forum in which to whine about getting your sport cut as if it had never happened at this school or any other. It is an encyclopedia. Get some perspective.