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The page history shows hundreds of incidents of vandalism, and almost all of it from anonymous IP's. Semi-protection would have been instant relief for any editors or bots working to remove vandalism on that page. If you will not reconsider I would at least appreciate a better explanation than "there's not much" - which just isn't true, again it was practically being vandalized as you wrote those words. You have to go back three pages just to get to the first of the month. Is that because there's so many wonderful contributions being added? Of course not, the whole list is IP vandalism and reverts, with a few nuggets here and there of real encyclopedic edits. Is there a way for me to request a second opinion? As I believe my requests absolutely fills the bill set by [[WP:PROT]] and especially [[WP:ROUGH]] [[User:Brando130|Brando130]] ([[User talk:Brando130|talk]]) 15:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
The page history shows hundreds of incidents of vandalism, and almost all of it from anonymous IP's. Semi-protection would have been instant relief for any editors or bots working to remove vandalism on that page. If you will not reconsider I would at least appreciate a better explanation than "there's not much" - which just isn't true, again it was practically being vandalized as you wrote those words. You have to go back three pages just to get to the first of the month. Is that because there's so many wonderful contributions being added? Of course not, the whole list is IP vandalism and reverts, with a few nuggets here and there of real encyclopedic edits. Is there a way for me to request a second opinion? As I believe my requests absolutely fills the bill set by [[WP:PROT]] and especially [[WP:ROUGH]] [[User:Brando130|Brando130]] ([[User talk:Brando130|talk]]) 15:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
:Regarding the second opinion I have posted a request for one on [[WP:ANI]], I hope you don't take offense. [[User:Brando130|Brando130]] ([[User talk:Brando130|talk]]) 16:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
:Regarding the second opinion I have posted a request for one on [[WP:ANI]], I hope you don't take offense. [[User:Brando130|Brando130]] ([[User talk:Brando130|talk]]) 16:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Do I have your approval? ==

I wouldn't bother you with this, but [[User:Jaakobou]] seems to think he has some authority in the project and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PalestineRemembered&diff=209232340&oldid=206364977 I should contact you] in order to be properly aprised of it. Do I have your approval to tell him to only crap in the litter-tray? After months of harrassment of people on their Talk-Pages, and a block of him, he's still doing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PalestineRemembered&diff=209239212&oldid=209232340 exactly the same thing]. It's particularily disturbing because this time round since his hatred and accusations are not restricted to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jaakobou&diff=prev&oldid=103224577 "crack-head Arabs"] but seems aimed at practicing followers of Judaism, and the testimony of victims of a pogrom (the 1929 Hebron massacre). [[User:PalestineRemembered|PR]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:PalestineRemembered|talk]]</small></sup> 16:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Ryan, I thought you'd want to know about Wikipedia:New admin school/Granting and revoking rollback. I just moved it out of my userspace and into the school. Acalamari 21:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uck, look at all the policy and problems this rollback thing has caused. *Cremepuff222* 01:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Page protection at WP:WORDS

Should be safe to undo the page protection now; see discussion here. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 14:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute resolution

I have ported over the first section of the WG "Dealing with disputes" page, here to the EN wiki, at Wikipedia:New admin school/Dispute resolution. If you have a chance, could you please take a look before I make it more public? Thanks, --Elonka 16:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you back? Mediation?

Hi, Ryan. Just curious if you are back home and editing again. I am ever to desiring to continue formal mediation between IZAK and I. Thanks so much. Bstone (talk) 14:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You denied this at RFP, but I protected before you denied the request. To be honest, all I see is IP vandalism on the history. Sure, its not exactly a torrent, but its almost all there is. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 08:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3 or 4 edits a day is not a reason to block out all IP's from an article - this can easily be dealt with by the RC patrollers. We don't want to alienate possible new users who can't edit the page constructively. I think you should unprotect. Ryan Postlethwaite 08:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 or 4 edits a day isn't much. But I re-iterate—one must also the number of *positive* IP contributions to the article and weigh them against the damage the same collection of editors are relentlessly inflicting on the content. In this case, I also think a look at the subject of the article could give fair estimation to the answer of the previous. But, I suppose we could discuss the traditional fire and flames war between the approaches of "IPs contribute a good majority of our content, we should only protect in extremities" and "So many IPs vandalise, RC can't cover everything, we should protect fairly leniently" for hours. I am supposing that I am merely of the latter approach; and you prefer the former. As I noted as RFP, I am not strongly opposing your decision, nor at the same time supporting my own rigorously—if you feel the need to remove the protection, I will not mind in the slightest. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 08:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is a lot of vandalism?

You turned down my request for semi protection on Egyptian pyramids saying "there's not much vandalism considering how high profile the topic is" - that was at 08:33, 30 April 2008, about four hours after the request. The page was being further vandalized almost as you typed - heres the vandalism just since last night:

  • 07:59, 30 April 2008 124.184.9.155 (2 edits)
  • 08:44, 30 April 2008 58.107.208.121
  • 08:50, 30 April 2008 121.45.32.199 (5 edits)
  • 08:58, 30 April 2008 217.44.99.75
  • 09:02, 30 April 2008 58.179.206.160 (3 edits)
  • 14:22, 30 April 2008 64.90.250.244

The page history shows hundreds of incidents of vandalism, and almost all of it from anonymous IP's. Semi-protection would have been instant relief for any editors or bots working to remove vandalism on that page. If you will not reconsider I would at least appreciate a better explanation than "there's not much" - which just isn't true, again it was practically being vandalized as you wrote those words. You have to go back three pages just to get to the first of the month. Is that because there's so many wonderful contributions being added? Of course not, the whole list is IP vandalism and reverts, with a few nuggets here and there of real encyclopedic edits. Is there a way for me to request a second opinion? As I believe my requests absolutely fills the bill set by WP:PROT and especially WP:ROUGH Brando130 (talk) 15:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the second opinion I have posted a request for one on WP:ANI, I hope you don't take offense. Brando130 (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do I have your approval?

I wouldn't bother you with this, but User:Jaakobou seems to think he has some authority in the project and I should contact you in order to be properly aprised of it. Do I have your approval to tell him to only crap in the litter-tray? After months of harrassment of people on their Talk-Pages, and a block of him, he's still doing exactly the same thing. It's particularily disturbing because this time round since his hatred and accusations are not restricted to "crack-head Arabs" but seems aimed at practicing followers of Judaism, and the testimony of victims of a pogrom (the 1929 Hebron massacre). PRtalk 16:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]