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== Original reporting == |
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Original reporting: I spent the last week in Puerto Vallarta, and the movie was being filmed about a block from my hotel (on the main street in downtown, between the Villa Premiere and the Malecon, if anyone's interested) in an old, disused movie theater. Local rumor held it that over 200 dogs were there. I talked with an associate of the director, Raja Gosnell, whom I bumped into, and gathered that in the theater, they had constructed a dogfighting arena. Obviously, as OR and unconfirmed, I didn't want to put this in the main page, but if someone's dying for information on this film, you may consider this info a solid rumor until more comes out.[[User:Deltopia|Deltopia]] 22:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== OR Removal == |
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This, to me, looks like someone putting forth their opinion,or their experience. Unless we have a source saying this, I really don't think it should be in the wiki - it sounds a little like someone reporting that it was booed in '''their''' theatre, which is not the most comprehensive of surveys. While i've seen it get bashed in a forum, I really don't think that we can comment on reception at large at this point, only what has happened to be near us - which is not remotely encyclopedic. Anyone wish to speak up for or against the inclusion of this quote? [[User:Scanna|Scanna]] ([[User talk:Scanna|talk]]) 03:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
This, to me, looks like someone putting forth their opinion,or their experience. Unless we have a source saying this, I really don't think it should be in the wiki - it sounds a little like someone reporting that it was booed in '''their''' theatre, which is not the most comprehensive of surveys. While i've seen it get bashed in a forum, I really don't think that we can comment on reception at large at this point, only what has happened to be near us - which is not remotely encyclopedic. Anyone wish to speak up for or against the inclusion of this quote? [[User:Scanna|Scanna]] ([[User talk:Scanna|talk]]) 03:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Being that you want to maintain a neutral atmosphere shouldn't the sentence at the end of the opening paragraph mentioning that this will be the greatest movie ever made be removed. I'm assuming that is just a joke anyways.[[User:Oni Kimon|Oni Kimon]] ([[User talk:Oni Kimon|talk]]) 05:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC) |
Being that you want to maintain a neutral atmosphere shouldn't the sentence at the end of the opening paragraph mentioning that this will be the greatest movie ever made be removed. I'm assuming that is just a joke anyways.[[User:Oni Kimon|Oni Kimon]] ([[User talk:Oni Kimon|talk]]) 05:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== Vandalism == |
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== Recent vandalism == |
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21:06, 13 October 2008 [[Special:Contributions/207.233.76.9|207.233.76.9]] ([[User talk:207.233.76.9|talk]]) |
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:That could be because it's one of the worst ideas for a movie of all time and the trailers make it look about as appealing as Gigli. |
:That could be because it's one of the worst ideas for a movie of all time and the trailers make it look about as appealing as Gigli.[[Special:Contributions/166.102.104.90|166.102.104.90]] ([[User talk:166.102.104.90|talk]]) 03:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC) |
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::I don't see any vandalism, but at the same time I cannot disagree with this surge of anti-BHC sentiment. I saw the trailer when I went to see WALL-E (talk about opposite sides of the spectrum), and it indeed looks pretty wretched. [[User:Beemer69|<span style="color:black">'''Beemer'''</span><span style="color:midnightblue">'''69'''</span>]] [[User talk:Beemer69|<small><span style="color:darkred"><sup>'''chitchat'''</sup></span></small>]] 03:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC) |
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I have never seen an ad for the film, and I seriously doubt I will ever see the film either. This page is on my watchlist though. I will be reverting vandalism when I see it. [[User:BananaFiend|BananaFiend]] ([[User talk:BananaFiend|talk]]) 10:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC) |
I have never seen an ad for the film, and I seriously doubt I will ever see the film either. This page is on my watchlist though. I will be reverting vandalism when I see it. [[User:BananaFiend|BananaFiend]] ([[User talk:BananaFiend|talk]]) 10:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:I still have not seen any vandalism on this entry. Perhaps you are thinking of another movie like [[Kung Fu Panda]] or [[Wall-E]]. |
:I still have not seen any vandalism on this entry. Perhaps you are thinking of another movie like [[Kung Fu Panda]] or [[Wall-E]]. [[User:Fazoozoo|Fazoozoo]] ([[User talk:Fazoozoo|talk]]) 03:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC) |
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There was just vandalism on 24 August of 2008. Auto-reverted by ClueBot. Numbers were changed, and a character name was changed to "f***face", etc... [[User:Jo7hs2|Jo7hs2]] ([[User talk:Jo7hs2|talk]]) 00:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC) |
:There was just vandalism on 24 August of 2008. Auto-reverted by ClueBot. Numbers were changed, and a character name was changed to "f***face", etc... [[User:Jo7hs2|Jo7hs2]] ([[User talk:Jo7hs2|talk]]) 00:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Oh boo hoo hoo. How do you know the information provided there WASN'T correct? |
::Oh boo hoo hoo. How do you know the information provided there WASN'T correct? [[Special:Contributions/166.102.104.86|166.102.104.86]] ([[User talk:166.102.104.86|talk]]) 18:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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I wanna know if it's vandalism that someone added [[Jenna Jameson]] and [[Rodney King]] to the cast list. [[User:ChesterG|ChesterG]] ([[User talk:ChesterG|talk]]) 03:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
I wanna know if it's vandalism that someone added [[Jenna Jameson]] and [[Rodney King]] to the cast list. [[User:ChesterG|ChesterG]] ([[User talk:ChesterG|talk]]) 03:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==Protest Notice== |
== Protest Notice == |
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I am removing the sentence "More than 80 educators, students, activists, and members of the Facebook social-network community have vowed to boycott the film's September release throughout the country" in favor of just the sentence noting the potential controversial elements. I have also neutralized to some extent the sentence about the controversy, as it previously used fairly non-neutral language. And I have removed the sentence "This film, being yet another dissapointment to the disney corporation, is predicted to be a box office train-wreck" for similar reasons, in addition to the fact that is isn't verifiable fact. There may be legitimate concerns about the film, but he potential boycott actions of "more than 80" people on Facebook are really not significant enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article about a major motion picture. '''This is an encyclopedia, not a social forum.''' [[User:Jo7hs2|Jo7hs2]] ([[User talk:Jo7hs2|talk]]) 14:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
I am removing the sentence "More than 80 educators, students, activists, and members of the Facebook social-network community have vowed to boycott the film's September release throughout the country" in favor of just the sentence noting the potential controversial elements. I have also neutralized to some extent the sentence about the controversy, as it previously used fairly non-neutral language. And I have removed the sentence "This film, being yet another dissapointment to the disney corporation, is predicted to be a box office train-wreck" for similar reasons, in addition to the fact that is isn't verifiable fact. There may be legitimate concerns about the film, but he potential boycott actions of "more than 80" people on Facebook are really not significant enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article about a major motion picture. '''This is an encyclopedia, not a social forum.''' [[User:Jo7hs2|Jo7hs2]] ([[User talk:Jo7hs2|talk]]) 14:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Manuel Noriega== |
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I don't want to suggest that I have some insight into this, but all things considered, it seems highly unlikely that the former Panamanian dictator captured during the U.S invasion of Panama in 1989 would willingly lend his voice- much less be allow to, considering his present incarceration- to a Disney movie. Again, i could be wrong about this... just my $0.02. [[Special:Contributions/200.41.2.220|200.41.2.220]] ([[User talk:200.41.2.220|talk]]) 04:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Disney has certainly done stranger things. --[[Special:Contributions/166.102.104.87|166.102.104.87]] ([[User talk:166.102.104.87|talk]]) 04:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Protection == |
== Protection == |
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⚫ | I strongly disagree with the protection placed on this article. I do not believe it is necessary and, as this movie is released today, will hinder the ability of this article to be improved upon by the four people who will see this movie in theaters. Therefore, I lodge a formal protest against this action and request it be rescinded; there is no reason to have this article unavailable. If you are going to protect a movie article as each movie comes out (i.e. the next [[Harry Potter]] movie) then you are going to require a lot of resources, a lot of time, a lot of effort -- all of which would be unnecessary and quite possibly wasted, in my opinion. This is just silly. [[User:DFajrpua|DFajrpua]] ([[User talk:DFajrpua|talk]]) 18:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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⚫ | : [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|Vandalism]] is even sillier. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Bwilkins|<font style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">'''BMW'''</font>]][[User talk:Bwilkins#top|<font style="color:#000000;background:white;">(drive)</font>]]</span></small> 19:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I strongly disagree with the protection placed on this article. I do not believe it is necessary and, as this movie is released today, will hinder the ability of this article to be improved upon by the four people who will see this movie in theaters. Therefore, I lodge a formal protest against this action and request it be rescinded; there is no reason to have this article unavailable. If you are going to protect a movie article as each movie comes out (i.e. the next [[Harry Potter]] movie) then you are going to require a lot of resources, a lot of time, a lot of effort -- all of which would be unnecessary and quite possibly wasted, in my opinion. This is just silly. |
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:And [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ADFajrpua goodbye]. — <span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 19:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
:And [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ADFajrpua goodbye]. — <span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 19:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Plot == |
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⚫ | The plot as set out in the article is incorrect. The villain is a Mexico City criminal who steals dogs for illegal dogfights, and he wants to use Chloe to extort a hefty ransom from her cosmetics queen owner (Jamie Lee Curtis). I can't imagine where the contributor got the idea of a dogfur factory. [[User:ScarboroughJoe|ScarboroughJoe]] ([[User talk:ScarboroughJoe|talk]]) 00:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Original reporting
Original reporting: I spent the last week in Puerto Vallarta, and the movie was being filmed about a block from my hotel (on the main street in downtown, between the Villa Premiere and the Malecon, if anyone's interested) in an old, disused movie theater. Local rumor held it that over 200 dogs were there. I talked with an associate of the director, Raja Gosnell, whom I bumped into, and gathered that in the theater, they had constructed a dogfighting arena. Obviously, as OR and unconfirmed, I didn't want to put this in the main page, but if someone's dying for information on this film, you may consider this info a solid rumor until more comes out.Deltopia 22:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
OR Removal
I've taken out the following section:==Early Reception==* So far, the reception towards the film has been immensly negative, even at points where people were booing the trailer as it played before [[Prince Caspian]].
This, to me, looks like someone putting forth their opinion,or their experience. Unless we have a source saying this, I really don't think it should be in the wiki - it sounds a little like someone reporting that it was booed in their theatre, which is not the most comprehensive of surveys. While i've seen it get bashed in a forum, I really don't think that we can comment on reception at large at this point, only what has happened to be near us - which is not remotely encyclopedic. Anyone wish to speak up for or against the inclusion of this quote? Scanna (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The trailer has been uploaded to several locations on the internet, such as YouTube, which have comments attached. There are even reaction videos to the trailer. There are also some blog entries. So there are definitely references available, even if there aren't any really good ones. But I'm in favor of just waiting for now, as I'm sure there will be many overwhelmingly negative opinions from respected sources in the future. Herorev (talk) 01:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Being that you want to maintain a neutral atmosphere shouldn't the sentence at the end of the opening paragraph mentioning that this will be the greatest movie ever made be removed. I'm assuming that is just a joke anyways.Oni Kimon (talk) 05:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
This page has been vandalizied like heck! The opening paragraph NPOV about expecting to be one of the greatest films ever made, and the crack about Drew Barrymore being a dog.71.142.54.236 (talk) 23:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
The low quality and shallow subject matter of this film makes it a prime target for vandalism. 21:06, 13 October 2008 207.233.76.9 (talk)
- That could be because it's one of the worst ideas for a movie of all time and the trailers make it look about as appealing as Gigli.166.102.104.90 (talk) 03:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see any vandalism, but at the same time I cannot disagree with this surge of anti-BHC sentiment. I saw the trailer when I went to see WALL-E (talk about opposite sides of the spectrum), and it indeed looks pretty wretched. Beemer69 chitchat 03:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- We need to protect the page from vandalism. Super Ranger (talk) 05:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. I see no vandalism on this entry. Fazoozoo (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I have never seen an ad for the film, and I seriously doubt I will ever see the film either. This page is on my watchlist though. I will be reverting vandalism when I see it. BananaFiend (talk) 10:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- I still have not seen any vandalism on this entry. Perhaps you are thinking of another movie like Kung Fu Panda or Wall-E. Fazoozoo (talk) 03:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- There was just vandalism on 24 August of 2008. Auto-reverted by ClueBot. Numbers were changed, and a character name was changed to "f***face", etc... Jo7hs2 (talk) 00:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh boo hoo hoo. How do you know the information provided there WASN'T correct? 166.102.104.86 (talk) 18:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I wanna know if it's vandalism that someone added Jenna Jameson and Rodney King to the cast list. ChesterG (talk) 03:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Protest Notice
I am removing the sentence "More than 80 educators, students, activists, and members of the Facebook social-network community have vowed to boycott the film's September release throughout the country" in favor of just the sentence noting the potential controversial elements. I have also neutralized to some extent the sentence about the controversy, as it previously used fairly non-neutral language. And I have removed the sentence "This film, being yet another dissapointment to the disney corporation, is predicted to be a box office train-wreck" for similar reasons, in addition to the fact that is isn't verifiable fact. There may be legitimate concerns about the film, but he potential boycott actions of "more than 80" people on Facebook are really not significant enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article about a major motion picture. This is an encyclopedia, not a social forum. Jo7hs2 (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Protection
I strongly disagree with the protection placed on this article. I do not believe it is necessary and, as this movie is released today, will hinder the ability of this article to be improved upon by the four people who will see this movie in theaters. Therefore, I lodge a formal protest against this action and request it be rescinded; there is no reason to have this article unavailable. If you are going to protect a movie article as each movie comes out (i.e. the next Harry Potter movie) then you are going to require a lot of resources, a lot of time, a lot of effort -- all of which would be unnecessary and quite possibly wasted, in my opinion. This is just silly. DFajrpua (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- Vandalism is even sillier. BMW(drive) 19:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Plot
The plot as set out in the article is incorrect. The villain is a Mexico City criminal who steals dogs for illegal dogfights, and he wants to use Chloe to extort a hefty ransom from her cosmetics queen owner (Jamie Lee Curtis). I can't imagine where the contributor got the idea of a dogfur factory. ScarboroughJoe (talk) 00:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)