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List of nature parks in Germany

Hi friend. I've started this article. Can you help translate from German, I think it is important as they cover 25% of Germany! The Bald One ^{White cat} 21:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Adding a image to my user page

Hi Black Falcon! Happy New Year! I was just wondering how I could add another image or picture from another website to my user page. Could you please help me? Thanks!Neptunekh (talk) 05:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Halle Berry's Heritage

I wonder if this should be noted about Halle heritage: Her maternal grandmother was English. Also has other English (distantly related to the Baronets Beresford, Viscounts of Tyrone, Earls of Tyrone and Marquesses of Waterford, to Barons Decies and to Baron Beresford, and to the Marquess of Campo-Maior Count of Trancoso in Portugal), Irish, German and remote Dutch ancestry.. I got this info from here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/bio Thanks! Neptunekh (talk) 00:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Please help us celebrate our anniversary!

Please check out Anniversary - let's celebrate! Your suggestions are very welcome. — Sebastian 22:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Afd of Mucoid plaque

Mucoid plaque is up for AFD... again.

The latest discussion is here. As a previous participant in a AFD discussion for this article, you are encouraged to contribute to ongoing consensus of whether or not this article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion.--ZayZayEM (talk) 02:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Now run away, fast.  :) Glad to see you around. --Kbdank71 20:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Run away? Fast? ... Nah, it sounds like it'd be a lot of work. ;) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 21:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

How's tricks?

Hi there! It's been a while, hasn't it? :) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

(picks my jaw up off the floor)

Wow, welcome back! : )

Incidentally, kbdank isn't half wrong about "run away fast".

Cfd has been "interesting" (among many many other things).

I just came back from wikibreak myself (though nothing like yours : )

Is it within etiquette to ask what happened? (you can email it if you'd prefer.) If not, I also fully understand that as well.

Anyway, again glad you're back, you're definitely one of my "sorely missed" individuals : )

Hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 22:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I truly appreciate your warm welcome! I had begun to start missing editing, and this article in the BBC was apparently the final push.

My absence was due to a combination of work, burnout, and a particularly unpleasant email conversation (regarding my nomination for deletion of a category). Work caused my sudden wikibreak and the latter two turned it into an extended vacation.

While I can't control the tone of the emails I receive, I plan to proceed with a more eventualist approach to editing and, for now, limit my editing in the project namespace mostly to XFD and the WikiProjects in which I participate.

How have you been? I hope you're well and have seen a good start to the new year. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 00:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC) P.S. Is the situation at CFD related to this?

I wondered about that.

Several people (including myself) got various emails right around that time.

I think nearly every closer has a wikibreak of some sort or other since then. SO don't feel alone : )

As for email, one thing that might help is to suggest to any detractors that you limit any such "discussions" to being on-wiki. That way, there's also a transparent record. (Honestly, only 2 people have my email address, and both were due to helping me with some technical issues awile back. (Though I still enjoy personal conversation with one of them.)

Anyway, as for me, I'm doing "ok". (Check out my talk page for some interesting recent links : )

I went on a somewhat lengthy wikibreak myself.

And no, not as far as I know, though that was "one" of the interesting issues.

It's been several things, and from what I can tell giving the last few months of AfD a glance, it's not entirely isolated to CFD.

I think it's probably prudent to (at least for now), leave them unsaid, but if you'd like details, most of the regular closers (Kbdank71, Good Ol'factory, Vegaswikian, etc.) probably would be much better for details. (Especially since, as I mentioned, I just came back from Wikibreak myself.)

Speaking of which, I'm still on the fence as to how much I want to just "jump in" again. I get the urge and start to help, and then get a quick reminder why I took the wikibreak...lol

And of course, there's always that pesky RL calling one away : )

So I'm sort of intermittent atm. Though I have a feeling that if more people like you are around, I'll find myself up to my elbows in editing again : )

Anyway, just wanted to say it again, glad to see you're back.

(Now if only we could have the return of some others that are sorely missed as well, sigh. I still miss David Kernow, and his want to try to find actual consensus, with his never ending deluge of new ideas; or Dr. Submillimeter, calm, and always had evidence to back up opinion; or the typical calmness of After Midnight. or or or. Oh well. I content myself with the idea that perhaps such past friends are still around, just under new guises for various reasons. (I never could get into that myself. I tried once awhile after becoming an admin, upon the advice of another admin who I respect, but it didn't even last a day lol. I'm "me", and there's just no masking that : )

Wow this became long. Well, one last thing, as always, feel free to drop me a note or notice about whatever you're working on, or whatever, any time : ) - jc37 10:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I enabled the option to receive e-mail from other users more than a year ago—when I created an e-mail account for use just for WP-related editing—so I don't know if I can really restrict who can e-mail me anymore; moreover, I'm loathe to do so because of one bad experience.

I think "interesting" is an appropriate description of some of the links—or, rather, the discussions to which they lead—on your talk page. :)

As for the other thing, I've learned it's best not to let curiousity become a reason for reviving unpleasant memories or dead horses (at least I hope they're dead) :)

I haven't been active in the project as long as you have, so I haven't seen quite as many friends leave, but I can certainly appreciate the feeling. To some extent, I think anyone who's been an editor for a while has needed to accept, to some degree, Antandrus' 29th observation (thanks to Kris for linking to the page). I also take comfort in the idea that sometimes it's good for good editors to leave—good not for the project, but for the editors themselves; of course, it's best to avoid the circumstances that lead to this, but...

Again, I'm glad to be back and happy to see that you are all still here. And thank you for your open invite; you are, of course, welcome to do the same with me. Best, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, welcome back indeed. I was getting worried something might have happened to you. UCFD will always be in need of more contributors, not to mention the severely outdated topical index, which apparently only you had the patience to work on (if you are so inclined to return to this niche of the enyclopedia, that is). There are several months of UCFD archives you probably want to catch up on just to see the progress made, virtually all positive if I'm guessing your positions correctly. VegaDark (talk) 07:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for the suddenness of my departure; initially, I intended it to last only about one or two weeks—enough time for me to finish my work assignment—but a subsequent event (see above) prolonged it significantly. In retrospect, I definitely should have added some type of notice to my talk page at the outset of my break.

I do plan to return to UCFD, and I will try to update the topical index this weekend. I've checked some of the archives for the past four months, and I applaud you for your continuing cleanup effort. Would I be correct to assume that you regularly check Special:Newpages, filtered for the category namespace, for new, inappropriate user categories? –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 08:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Nope, even better. Now I use Wikipedia:Database reports/User categories and Wikipedia:Database reports/Uncategorized categories to get most of my nominations, or sometimes use the prefix index if I don't want to wait for the first page to update. Although your method seems interesting, I may have to give that a try as well. VegaDark (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I'm glad I asked. :)

The main list includes more than a few of the reports I've wanted to request (or actually have requested) the regulars at WP:BOTREQ and WP:VPT to generate. Thanks! –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Falcon, welcome back for what ever it is worth. I was worried about you and almost tempted to e-mail you but wanted to respect your space and did'nt. Pedia work is addictive and at end not sure that much rewarding anyway, so I am not unhappy to see people take a break once in a while. For me, I do it out of compulsion (of what I dont know). Anyway, yes the Sri Lankan Tamil people article should reach FA status but re reading it made me understand how much more prose work is left. Considering that I am not a native English speaker, it is someone else's burden. Currently I am consolidating two manufacturing plants in real life so taking it easy on pedia. Also I have a decades old two massacre series articles of DYK quality pending in my mind. If it were good old times, I would have had them done by now. I also know the current phase of the Sri Lankan civil war will probably end up creating a few more articles, especially about the shelling of the hospital in Puthukudiruppu. I hope the slaughter comes to an end soon. The president says it is a question of few more days. I hope he is right if not it is 100's of civilians a day who are dying. Anyway hope to see you in SLR soon. Also e-mail me. I have a question for you. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 03:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that the issue of prose is insurmountable. The well-defined structure of the article makes it possible, in my opinion, to divide any improvement effort into more manageable parts. I am no expert at copyediting, but I would like to give it another try. I would also like to once again become active at SLR, though I may need to delay that a bit due to real-life time constrains.

On a more somber note, I am afraid you are correct that the conflict will produce more incidents that result in the deaths of large numbers of civilians. That innocent people are caught up in wars and conflicts seems, sadly, to be a tragic constant of human history.

I will send an e-mail to you momentarily. Truth be told, I haven't checked that e-mail account for several months... Anyway, it's good to talk/write with you again. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back. I was beginning to worry as well. Horologium (talk) 20:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, and I really am sorry for the sudden nature of my departure and any worry I caused. Like I wrote above, I didn't expect it to last quite so long.

How's Florida this time of year? –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It was really cold, although the cold spell has finally ended. It was in the high teens/low 20s (F°) for the past three or four mornings, but it's now a relatively balmy 70° (F), and warmer temps are predicted for the next couple of days. Walking several blocks and waiting for the bus when it's 22° outside is not my idea of fun... (wry grin)

There's nothing like the risk of frostnip to add excitement to one's mornings. : ) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 05:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back

Great to have you back, some holiday eh? I'll get around to starting those articles some time. I have done some work on African parks recently starting one in the R of Congo but I agree I want to get more of the articles up to good status and of course get the others up and running. Cordialmente. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 23:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Black Falcon's Day!

User:Black Falcon has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Black Falcon's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Black Falcon! Peace, Rlevse ~ A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you for a wonderful surprise! –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 05:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Gail O'Neill

I was just opening up the 11th to nominate it when I saw you beat me to it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I saw you did some copyediting. Feel free to add an infobox. She can probably use the same one as Damaris Lewis as a model or maybe she should have a journalist one. So far all I know is that in July 1987 she was 24 giving us the approximate birthdate. Probably other articles mentioned ages as well. One says she is 5'9".--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 09:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

The fields for the two templates are quite different, and I'm honestly not sure which should be used. I'm leaning toward {{Infobox journalist}}, since she is currently a journalist, but I suppose that the determining factor should be whether she is better known as a model or a journalist. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 21:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Decades template

If I do a decade template, I am not sure how to go about it procedurally. I don't think it counts as a DRV appropriate subject, because it would be so different from what was deleted as to be something new. But I don't know that just creating something slapping it on 100 pages and hoping no one takes it to TFD is so good an idea either.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 09:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

My suggestion would be to start a discussion about it somewhere and then advertise the discussion at relevant talk pages, such as:

• Talk:Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue
• Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates
• Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)
• Wikipedia talk:Navigation templates
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography

To get more input, you may also consider notifying Woohookitty (closed the TfD), the person who closes the DRV (of course, this is all moot if the outcome of the DRV is to restore the templates), and perhaps a couple of other interested users (e.g. participants in the TfD and/or DRV, as well as members of related WikiProjects).

There's never a guarantee against a TfD nomination, but as long as the discussion is advertised at relevant locations, at least you'll have made a good-faith effort to gauge the community's consensus about the issue. ("Silence implies consent if there is adequate exposure to the community.") Cheers, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Of course, holding a discussion is a good alternative. I suppose since we are mostly talking about models, I should also post a notice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fashion in addition to many of the places that you mention. I will have to figure out the next step since I think the deletion is going to be endorsed. I think the typical model in the navbox is more like a Gail O'Neill than Jessica White. I have to think about the template in that context.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, WikiProject Fashion would definitely be relevant to such a discussion.

Have you given any thought to the idea of creating a List of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue models (information organized by model) or List of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issues (information organized by issue)? Such lists could contain information that is currently absent from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue#Models, such as the names of photographers involved with a particular issue, as well as the type of detailed information that was present in previous versions of the userfied templates (example). I'd be happy to help with creating and organizing such lists (at the moment I don't have enough time to take on such a project alone, but I've added it to my list of long-term projects). I understand, of course, if you are not interested or don't have the time. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 21:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd surely help. Will it survive an AfD challenge? I have drafted the first decade template User:TonyTheTiger/Template:2000-2009SISwimsuit. Any thoughts?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I think it would, as long as it was well organized (regardless of WP:POTENTIAL, which I happen to (mostly) agree with, I'm assuming that the organization and, by extension, appearance of a list affects editors' opinions about whether it is worth keeping; compare List of multiple Olympic gold medalists to List of piano makers). Such a list would not be indiscriminate and would complement the article about the Swimsuit Issue.

I think the decades template looks good and I wouldn't oppose its inclusion in articles about SI models (I'm wondering if it would look better or worse if the individual years were collapsed, but that's just a minor stylistic question). Nice! –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 22:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Baumhauerite

Hi Black Falcon. I created about a mineral named Baumhaumerite. Could you please edit the page? Here's the link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumhauerite. Thanks! Neptunekh

Replied at User talk:Neptunekh#Re: Baumhauerite. (diff) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 19:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Fictional characters by nationality

I have been browsing through the various categories over the past few days and I'm honestly not sure what the best way is to proceed: one or two big group nominations or a number of smaller nominations. For some, such as Fictional Afghans and Fictional Haitians (recreation), the case for deletion is the same as in the September 2008 CFD. However, do you think that there should be separate nominations for categories for fictional characters by ethnicity (e.g. Fictional Americans by ethnicity), by ethnicity-nationality (e.g. Fictional Italian Australians, Fictional Indian Britons), and by place of origin (e.g. Fictional Americans by state, Fictional people from Liverpool)? I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 23:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I empathise.

My initial thought is to just make it all a single nom, and explain how this is overcat. However, large noms can sometimes confuse (as you already know).

So if separate, Ethnicity and nationality in separate noms, for simplicity and clarity, I suppose. (Unless you think that that would be more confusing.)

As for the ethnicity/nationality intersection cats, list them separately (though together) as well.

And the "from" cats separate as well. Though I think they could reasonably be nommed with the nationality cats.

Hope this helps. - jc37 11:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It does. I'll write up a nomination for the nationality cats and then see if I can add in any a few other cats (such as the "from" cats, as you mentioned) while still keeping the nomination reasonably clear. Thanks, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 17:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I've posted the first two nominations at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 February 14 (they are both for nationality cats, but I separated them because one group requires deletion whereas the other needs upmerging). In light of the discussions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 October 21, however, the ethnicity and location categories probably require a more deliberate approach.

I can't help but notice, by the way, that the reasons for deletion of the nationality cats were never addressed in the two 21 October 2008 discussions. Most of the comments in favor of keeping highlighted a desire to retain the information, but none effectively addressed the argument that the information should be in a list rather than a category. A few noted that the current population of the categories was justifiable, but that ignores the fact that we never consider just what is currently in a category, but also what could be placed in it in the future based on its scope. Oh, well...

I think I'll wait a while to see how the nationality nominations go before posting the others. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 19:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

New discussions

See discussions on fashion model templates at Talk:Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Issue#End_the_sexism_now_-_Swimsuit_Issue and Talk:Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Issue#End_the_sexism_now_-_Magazine_templates.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gail O'Neill

On 18 February, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gail O'Neill, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 09:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: UCFD

None regularly go through the list, although User:Rockfang sometimes uses his bot to clear categories listed on the page. VegaDark (talk) 00:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrangling

FYI, there's a discussion going on at WT:WPM questioning your impartiality for closing the discussion of the deletion of the Senior Wrangler category, as you participated in the discussion prior to closing it. —David Eppstein (talk)

Thank you, I appreciate the notice. I will post a brief reply at the project talk page. Thank you again, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 02:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Western cats went that-a-way!

Yikes, I was trying to save my comment endorsing your proposal, and suddenly the rug was pulled out. I'm guessing that you noticed that the cat pages hadn't been tagged yet? Cgingold (talk) 00:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, sort of. It was only after I posted both nominations that I noticed the timestamp, and I hoped to make the change before anyone even noticed the new listing. I'm really sorry for the inconvenience. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 00:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ha! I just discovered that you left a note cleverly hidden in the edit summary... Cgingold (talk) 00:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I would normally have left the section headers, along with a link to the actual location of the discussion, on the old day's page, but I didn't think anyone had noticed the nominations within the five minutes it took for me to post and remove them. I guess this should remind to me to check the time before posting or to tag the categories first... –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 01:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Wiki-project Africa

Hi Black Falcon! I need your help in being part of wiki-project Africa. Anything you would like help with, I'd be grateful to chip in with wTurtle (talk) 14:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Water Tortoise#WikiProject Africa (diff) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 22:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Martyn_Godfrey

Hi! I made a page about an author named Martyn_Godfrey. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyn_Godfrey. Could you please edit the page? Thanks!Neptunekh (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)