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In the following passage the authors seem to be unsure as to whether it is a list of beliefs or a list of things Mormons are known for: |
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The information in this timeline is entirely from existing Wikipedia articles. Nevertheless, many significant dates are missing. I could not find articles on Executive Order 11264, the Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1988, or the June 23, 2003 Supreme Court decision in the University of Michigan Law School case. [[User:Simesa|Simesa]] 22:58, 16 May 2005 (UTC) <br> |
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-- I found the 2003 case in a Wikipedia page. [[User:Simesa|Simesa]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)<br> |
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-- Created a stub for Executive Order 11246 and added it to 1965. [[User:Simesa|Simesa]] 00:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC) |
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[[Latter-day Saints]] are widely known for: |
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== Category Monopolization == |
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* Active proselytizing by full-time volunteer [[missionary|missionaries]] |
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* Belief in modern [[prophet]]s, beginning with [[Joseph Smith, Jr.]], and continuing today with [[Gordon B. Hinckley]] |
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* Acceptance of the ''[[Bible]]''(slightly different from the more usual version), the ''[[Book of Mormon]]'', ''[[Doctrine and Covenants]]'', and ''The [[Pearl of Great Price]]'' as works of scripture |
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* A dietary code called the [[Word of Wisdom]], which requires abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea |
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* Belief in God the Father, the Son ([[Christ]]), and the [[Holy Ghost]] existing as three separate individuals |
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* Belief in a form of [[theosis]] called ''[[exaltation]]'' or ''eternal progression'' |
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* Formerly practicing [[polygamy]] ([[plural marriage]])<!-- Let's keep it simple and avoid difficulty --> |
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* Wearing ceremonial [[temple garment]]s under their daily clothes |
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* Performing [[Baptism for the dead|baptisms for the dead]], and other ordinances by proxy, in [[Temple (Mormonism)|temples]] and doing attendant [[genealogy|genealogical]] research. |
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I edited it on the assumption that it is intended to be a list of things that Mormons are known for - [[User:69.231.222.235|69.231.222.235]] 21:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC) |
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Civil rights is the history of all discriminated classes - the monopolization of the term for one class at the exclusion of others is itself discriminatory. |
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This is the exclusive History of a the struggle of persons identified by the NAACP as "Persons of Color" for equal protection under the law. |
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==Why the {} sign/s?== |
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The Civil Rights Movement recognizes the coincidence of various groups to overcome systemic discrimination which was initiated by simultaneous efforts of Africans and Women to attain sufrage and which accelerated from 1886 - slowed during the KKK years from 1889 to 1918, picked up momentum during the wars because of federal integration of troops, but made a decisive turn when the Democratic party split with the "Dixiecrats" and choose to embrace the idea that equality in the workplace should be mandated at the federal level in (1955?) The resulting victory of the democrats (JFK) coincided with the imprisonment of Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement accelerated to include: |
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Why were one or more of these sign/s: <nowiki>{{NPOV}}{{expansion}}{{Cleanup}}</nowiki> signs placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning? (And why create a redundant category [[:Category:Bible stories]] that is now up for a vote for deletion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories]]?) [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 07:30, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) |
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including: |
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1. Indiginuous Peoples - who deserve their own labels - ie Navaho. |
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2. Persons of Sub-saharan African Descent. Not to be confused with those of Arab Descent. |
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3. Women - specifically white women seeking suffrage, Minority women were doubly disadvantaged, but it must be remembers that the champions of womens suffrage specifically disowned any interest in negro suffrage, and so by extension the suffrage of black women was considered distinct from womens suffrage. |
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4. Jews and Catholics - NC and probably other states prevented Jews and Catholics from participating in public life. |
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5. Handicapped and Mentally challenged - once treated worse than criminals, those with mental difficiencies were recognized as people - "One flew over the cukoo's nest" represents the period of transformation. |
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6. Families with Children - were (are) discriminated against in housing until federal laws passed. |
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7. Minority sexual orientations - Oscar Wilde was imprisoned to the point of insanity before civil rights were recognized. Homosexuals continue to be targeted by multi-bigots: generally those who abhor Jews, Blacks, Gays, and Women in positions of authority, with broad - biblically-based hatred - often with tacit approval from their communities. [[Mathew Hale]] being a recent example. David Duke another. |
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8. The right of the homeless to register to vote without a fixed address. |
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9. Nonsmokers right to healthy air. |
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10. Atheists right to freedom of (from) the use of tax money to establish religion. |
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Civil rights increased until the presidency of George W. Bush - who kicked off his campaign in the bastion of bigotry - bob jones university - which condemns Catholics and prohibits "blacks" from dating "Whites" (leaving asians, geogians, arabs, portugese, hispanic, Indians from either continent, chechnians, and other non-whie-non-blacks to "choose" one "race" or the other), and has marked his Presidency with reduced equality for homosexuals first, then race based interment, racial profiling, and promoting the use of tax money to promote (some) religions. In fairness, Bush has promoted minorities to higher posts that previous Presidents but has insisted on unquestioning loyalty - raising the question that he favors "Uncle Toms", or minorities who are willing to subjugate the principles of equality and participate in the repetition of historic prejudices (such as the japanese internments being revisited in gitmo) in exchange for high profile positions. |
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[[User:Benjamin Gatti|Benjamin Gatti]] 05:28, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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Changed Years 1963, 1964 and 1965, as Follows, and Converted In-text External Links to Footnotes per Wikipedia Guidelines : |
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* 1963 (there were four in-text external links, [1] to [4]) : |
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**June 11 - This second June 11 item, JFK's historic civil rights speech, had his Bill of June 19 mixed in, confusing. Clarified it. Substituted JFK library's transcript as the source reference, and moved original source reference [1], about August 28 item, to there. And original source [2] was actually MLK's Aug 28 speech, so moved it there as well. |
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**June 12 - Added a source (reference) for Medgar Evers and a little of its content. |
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**June 19 - Clarified. |
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**August 28 - (Moved original [1] and [2] here.) |
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**November 22 -Added content. |
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*1964: |
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**Corrected two apparent typos in dates: July 3->July 2, and added a source; October 14->December 10 and added a source. |
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*1965 (there was one in-text external link, [5]) : |
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**Corrected apparent typo in date, March 16->15, per this item's own source. |
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[[User:For7thGen|For7thGen]] 21:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC) |
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== Civil Rights or civil rights abuses? == |
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First off, I agree w/ Gatti up there about the monopolization. The word "[[Native American]]" (or American Indian, Indigenous People, [[First Nations]], etc.) wasn't even on there until I added it (and I hope to add more). Of course, this is remedied through contribution. But what I really want to ask is, do we talk about civil rights, or abuses of civil rights? Advancements only? Or setbacks as well? I'm sure the assassination of [[Medgar Evers]] is up there. Is that to mean we should mark every Indian massacre as well? What about long-ranging phenomena, such as [[lynchings]] and [[Sundown town|Sundown towns]]? Should we mark the beginning of each decade (eg. 1890-1900: 246 lynchings)? Just wondering what people think about this...--[[User:Rockero420|Rockero420]] 02:28, 18 November 2005 (UTC) |
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:I agree that lynching and sundown town belong in the article, at least in See Also. The number of lynchings belongs in the lynching article, although notable lynchings might have a link - I'll look over the Timeline. I would leave out the Indian massacres but include Wounded Knee Standoff (which has no article of its own). [[User:Simesa|Simesa]] 19:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC) |
Revision as of 21:14, 23 November 2005
In the following passage the authors seem to be unsure as to whether it is a list of beliefs or a list of things Mormons are known for:
Latter-day Saints are widely known for:
- Active proselytizing by full-time volunteer missionaries
- Belief in modern prophets, beginning with Joseph Smith, Jr., and continuing today with Gordon B. Hinckley
- Acceptance of the Bible(slightly different from the more usual version), the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price as works of scripture
- A dietary code called the Word of Wisdom, which requires abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea
- Belief in God the Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost existing as three separate individuals
- Belief in a form of theosis called exaltation or eternal progression
- Formerly practicing polygamy (plural marriage)
- Wearing ceremonial temple garments under their daily clothes
- Performing baptisms for the dead, and other ordinances by proxy, in temples and doing attendant genealogical research.
I edited it on the assumption that it is intended to be a list of things that Mormons are known for - 69.231.222.235 21:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Why the {} sign/s?
Why were one or more of these sign/s: {{NPOV}}{{expansion}}{{Cleanup}} signs placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning? (And why create a redundant category Category:Bible stories that is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories?) IZAK 07:30, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)