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{{*mp}}... that in the '''[[United States Senate election in Oregon, 1990|1990 United States Senate election in Oregon]]''', incumbent [[Mark Hatfield]]'s competitor in the [[primary election]] was best known for having spent 40 days [[tree sitting]] to protest [[old-growth forest|old-growth]] logging?
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:* Reviewed [[Indigenous Territory]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3ADid_you_know&action=historysubmit&diff=421696314&oldid=421695802].
:* Reviewed [[Indigenous Territory]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3ADid_you_know&action=historysubmit&diff=421696314&oldid=421695802].

:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px|link=]] Length and date check out. Hook was slightly over 200 characters, but I changed "United States" to "U.S." and "competitor" to "opponent" in order to bring the hook under 200 characters, so the hook is good now. This is good to go for DYK. (Complete tangential sidenote: I wonder why an ''anti-logging tree sitter'' was a ''Republican''.) [[User:OCNative|OCNative]] ([[User talk:OCNative|talk]]) 22:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


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Articles created/expanded on March 9

Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler

Created by Tentontunic (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:19, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some POV issues with this one. Possibly they are only minor, but I'm a little concerned that there is only one line of criticism of the book in the article. That may, of course, reflect the reviews, but then again, maybe not. So someone may need to do a little research on this. Gatoclass (talk) 06:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay in getting back to this, I've been busy with other things. I'll try to have a look through the reviews sometime today, and post a response. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I finally got around to doing a little research on this book, and it confirms my suspicion that the article is one-sided. The "criticism" section is basically a litany of praise, with one review after another extolling its virtues while only one sentence is given to a vague reference to criticism. Yet of the first two reviews of this book I looked at from a google search, the first calls the book "highly controversial", quoting historians who have attacked its comparison of Nazism and Stalinism, while the second states that the book gives a vastly reduced estimate of civilian victims of Stalin's regime, of 3.3 million for the Holodomor and 6 million in total. But you wouldn't know any of this from reading the article, which if anything implies the opposite in both cases. So I think this one still needs some work before it can be promoted. I will try to put a little work into it in the next day or two. My apologies once again BTW for taking so long to come back to this. Gatoclass (talk) 06:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I am fine with the alt hook and other edits by Gatoclass. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Piotrus. This one is ready for review now. Since I've made some edits to the article, I will leave it to a third party to do the review. Gatoclass (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article still feels v.odd. It reads like a blog written by the publishers. Instead of references we have His Name of "The Newspaper" said .... I think Gatoclass has done well to put in time to help, but IMO it needs a lot more and its mostly deletions of unnecessary stuff - Victuallers (talk) 07:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you want criticism, the London Review of Books review had plenty. Johnbod (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did think about deleting some of the boilerplate endorsements, which IMO are a bit samey, but didn't want to take too aggressive an approach to the existing text. Ideally, I would have liked a lot more time to work on the article but I have other priorities. But now that Victuallers has voiced similar concerns, I might see if I can find the time to go and trim that review section down a bit. BTW Johnbod, if you have a link, or access to, the London Review piece, you could provide it or perhaps do a little editing yourself. Gatoclass (talk) 10:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I trimmed the section back a bit, maybe someone could have another look at this article now. Gatoclass (talk) 02:05, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Siege of Kolberg (1807)

5x expanded by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 10:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are several disputes regarding this article, templates notifying this have been deleted from the article by the nominator. Additional problems include presenting false historic information, attempts to conceal patricipation of Polish forces, and violations of naming rule. By proposing this nomination a version of the article is promoted that is contested an contains false information--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:16, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The above user's comment should not be taken into account - I had filed a successful SPI against them leading to a one-year block and I provided evidence against them when their EEML network was sanctioned by the arbitration committee, and thereafter they have tried, unsuccessfully, to disrupt a DYK nom of mine before.

Furthermore, since they have already been involved in editing the article, they are not allowed to review this nom. While the article is not yet GA quality, I repudiate all charges made above and direct them to the article talk page, else I ask for an uninvolved editor to review this nomination independently. Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 14:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly this reaction against AGF has become somewhat typical since the time I uncovered of Nazi publication by Skapperod in his edits on Polish history. I am just interested in neutrality and objective version of the article. I personally have nothing against a neutral editor reviewing the content and disputes-in fact I was looking forward to it, but sadly Skapperod decided to remove templates indicating that there is a dispute on the page ,and did not wait for 3O which he himself requested. I didn't knew that as editor of the article I am not allowed to comment. In any case a neutral editor for reviewing the dispute on the page would be welcomed(Skapperod stopping from removing information about the dispute would help also).Have a good day--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 15:11, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As an uninvolved editor, I've read through the article and honestly, I'm not seeing any POV issues or evidence of "presenting false historic information" as MyMoloboaaccount described above. That said though, I'm certainly not an expert on early 19th century European military history and unfortunately a vast majority of the sources are offline and/or in a foreign language that I'm not able to read. I understand that there are concerns expressed on the talk page (mostly by MyMoloboaccount) and a request for WP:3O has been made. Even so, the article has been relatively stable since the 17th. The article passes DYK criteria for date, 5x expansion and (AGF) for hook ref. The only question really is MyMoloboaaccount's concern which I can't definitively discount due to my lack of expertize in the area. The views of other editors are still needed to finish this review. AgneCheese/Wine 04:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

inSpiral Lounge

The inSpiral Lounge and Walkers Quay on Regent's Canal

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Bedson (talkcontribs) 03:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article is quite promotional in tone, as is this hook. Sentences such as "It took 6 weeks of building work to transform a stagnating, vacant cafe into a stylish eatery with green and cream interior and LED lighting." and "The area has now been rebuilt with a more modern market, over which inSpiral gives a commanding view." are examples of the advert-like prose that needs to be fixed up before this could be featured on the Main Page. - Dravecky (talk) 16:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've rephrased that sentence and made it less promotional where I can. Paul Bedson (talk) 01:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The tone is certainly improved but unsourced, unattributed statements such as "They used this experience to create a futuristic, environmentally conscious alternative to Starbucks with a chilled out theme and sense of community" would be great for a brochure or a glowing review but not for an encyclopedia article. In fact, the sourcing on the whole History section (the locus of much of the puffery) is quite thin. - Dravecky (talk) 01:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed that sentence and sourced it from the Camden New Journal, removed the tone tag because I can't see any further problems. Let me know if you can! Thanks. Paul Bedson (talk) 20:51, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This doesnt read like an encyclopedia article not only do we have the types of food but they are listed as well... and the hook is still promotional and we have lots of stuff like "The venue has a built in DJ booth and hosts live music with open mic nights and notable DJs " .... Wikipedia is not this. Delete 30% and see whats left. Victuallers (talk) 16:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I totally disagree that sentence is promotional and saying that mention of food on a restaurant page is inappropriate is simply daft. As is not mentioning the music in a music venue. Removing this will leave nothing about a highly notable Camden venue. Paul Bedson (talk) 19:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 17

The Fab Five (film)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. However, the source article from Variety says "Sunday's ESPN broadcast of 'The Fab Five' became the network's highest-rated documentary ever." This does not appear to be the same as "the highest rated ESPN films production ever." If the hook is tweaked a bit, this should be OK. Cbl62 (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(alt hook) ... that Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in The Fab Five, which was the highest rated ESPN documentary ever, was The New York Times' most highly emailed story?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(alt hook3) ... in response to Jalen Rose's comments in The Fab Five, which was the highest rated ESPN documentary ever, Grant Hill authored The New York Times' most highly emailed story?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:35, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It would be helpful if a fresh set of eyes could review the alts and recommend one. Cbl62 (talk) 22:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question If you are only going to work one fact in, which is better for the hook 1) Hill's response was an NYT top emailed story or 2) The movie was the top rated ESPN documentary?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biophilia (album)

  • ... that Björk's forthcoming album Biophilia was "partly recorded" on an iPad and will be released in the form of a series of apps?

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is good to go, but the nominator has not reviewed another nomination and the article is very slightly too short according to DYKcheck. BigDom 20:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, author/nominator claims nearly 100 DYK credits, including several in March 2011, so there's no reason for them not to have reviewed another article. It's been almost two weeks since the issue was raised, too. - Dravecky (talk) 10:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 18

El Cuero

  • ... that El Cueros first single, "Footprints", reached number one on the Norwegian iTunes charts on its release date?

Created by Lilduff90 (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Per WP:BADCHARTS, iTunes chart rankings are genreally not to be used. IF they are used, a third party source must report on this, such as Billboard or MTV. You cannot use the charts to source themselves; how would other people access this? I have removed the iTunes chart info, please write a new hook. Size and age are fine. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 21

Hershey-Chase experiment

Overview of the Hershey-Chase experiments

  • ... that before the Hershey-Chase experiment determined that DNA is actually the medium of transfer for the genetic code between parents and offspring, scientists used to believe our genes were carried by proteins?

5x expanded by Jmn49114 (talk), Trisha.Scott22 (talk), Mengew9791 (talk), and DoodlyDave (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Welcome new users - I'm not sure whether you have complied exactly with a 5x expansion over 5 days, but I can see a large expansion recently. Ive boldened your article in the hook. I'm willing to ignore that rule for newcomers. I hope to return and complete the review Victuallers (talk) 21:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Oskar Baudisch

Created by Rifleman 82 (talk), Stone (talk). Nominated by Stone (talk) at 23:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • review has to wait until tomorrow, sorry!
  • Pending your review of another article: I question the notability of this subject. If the Baudisch reaction is noteworthy, it should be mentioned in the lead and discussed in the body of the article. The rest is just biographical info, and needs proofreading. Perhaps the hook could be rewritten to stress Baudisch's contribution. Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, you did a good job. I copyedited the article and added links. Since I divided some paragraphs, I'm not sure where the citations go. Could you please add at least one citation per paragraph to source the information?
  • I would also like to suggest a different hook:
  • ALT1: ... that while directing a research institute in Saratoga Springs, New York, Austrian-American biochemist Oskar Baudisch discovered a chemical reaction in trace minerals in water that became known as the Baudisch reaction? Yoninah (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
trace minerals in water that became known as the Baudisch reaction I don't think that's what the article actually says. He worked on trace minerals, and he discovered the reaction named after him... but it doesn't mean they are related. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 03:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right! May be it is not clearly stated that the two things happened in two relative unrelated research areas of Baudisch.--Stone (talk) 06:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Czech Republic as his first starting point is a little bit ignoring the hostile and bitter history of the area where he comes from. Bohemia with a large German minority (in the boarder area it was the majority). The cutting in to of Austria Hungary in 1919 an the subsequent occupation of the Sudetenland by Nazi Germany an the following forced relocation of the remaining Germans after 1945. So lets find a better hook.--Stone (talk) 12:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know that it offers not much detail, but the sources are thin. The most interesting fact would be that he drowned, which is a strange thing for a guy doing trace analysis of water when he gets killed by the major compound of the water. I like your alternative. I am always bad in creating nice hooks. --Stone (talk) 20:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mykola Leontovych

Picture of Mykola Leontovych

I've been significantly expanding and referencing the article starting March 21 until now. I couldn't really decide on the best hook so here are a few, but all are referenced:

  • ... that Ukrainian composer Mykola Leontovych (pictured) was so self-critical that after the publication of his "Second compilation of songs from Podillya" in 1903, he bought off all 300 copies because he was dissatisfied with it?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Boguslavmandzyuk (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The expansion is valuable, but I can't tell if the 2*BLP rule applies because the article was not completely unreferenced before the expansion started. Second opinion wanted. - I recommend to improve the Carol article also. The four hooks all seem on the complicated side, I suggest:
ALT1:... that Ukrainian composer Mykola Leontovych (pictured), known for the Carol of the Bells, was nicknamed 'Ukrainian Bach" in France? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know it was partially referenced, but I thought it that would qualify because any article is required to have at least some references compared, to the much more clear citations the article now has and the expansion also more than doubled the lenghth of the article. I couldn't find an in-depth description of the new 2*BLP rule stating that the article has to be completely unreferenced(?). Such articles are simply deleted from the mainspace. So it looked like it qualified to me.--BoguslavM 01:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, you're right. The hooks I suggested are probably a bit too specific. Your alternative would definitely work. I also revised the third hook up there which I think is the most interesting because it is the most ironic.
ALT2:... that Ukrainian composer Mykola Leontovych (pictured), known in the western world for composing the immensly popular Christmas carol, Carol of the Bells was murdered in 1921 while he was visiting his parents on Christmas by a Soviet state security agent?--BoguslavM 02:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re the rules: safest would be to expand the article 5*. Is that possible? (We had an opera singer recently, which the author easily expanded to more than 5*.) If not get support for an exception, the topic is discussed again and again, I feel that an expansion of about 7k chars would justify a promotion. Re the hook: of course I like my own better, smile. There is a limit of 200 chars for the hook. More important: it is redundant to add "immensely popular" to "known", as it is redundant to add "Christmas Carol" to "Carol ...". And do you want to show him as a respectable composer or just as a crime victim? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good point. I was only condsidering the "most interesting (or shocking)" fact. OK. Let's stick with the hook about the respectable composer.
Expanding the article 5* is promoting quantity over quality. Maybe over time, the article will grow in size but I see no point in just filling in the space and then linking an article with a bunch of redundant and repeating information to the main page. In my opinion this article qualifies for DYK in the main page because it is well-referenced and more than doubly expanded.--BoguslavM 07:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am with you as you can see in this discussion. I recommend to improve the citations for the Carol article, anyway, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Well-referenced and more than doubly expanded" are not the DYK criteria. It is not the case that every article someone improves "qualifies" for DYK. If you think you have made the article good and you want to get something for it, try WP:Good articles. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reject for insufficient expansion. Even were it to qualify for the 2x exception for unreferenced BLPs, this article has only been expanded just under 1.73x since the edit prior to expansion efforts began. And as it does not qualify for the unref BLP exception, and the author asserts no intention to significantly further expand the article, it fails to qualify for DYK. - Dravecky (talk) 11:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please help me understand the calculation. DYK check gives me 4321 chars before the expansion began, 11978 now. That is more than 2.5* to my math. It's more than 7k of expansion, I would not ask for more and think the author is right not to fill the article with non-quality additions just for counting's sake. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
update, 12276 chars, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I get 6295B of prose prior to expansion. Schwede66 20:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at 20 February, now 12425, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-expansion is 3786 characters, current is 12,425, that's only about 3.2x expansion short of the 5x requirement. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 22

Rebecca Black

--> --BabbaQ (talk) 12:31, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Its a 100% certain Keep in a day or two so we can proceed with the DYK.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Afd closed as Keep.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length OK. But can we pep this up a little?
  • ALT1: ... that "Friday", a 2011 single by teen pop singer Rebecca Black that went viral on March 11, has been called the "worst song ever"? Yoninah (talk)
OK with me!--BabbaQ (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Returned ALT1 from the queues per this comment which I agree with. We need either a proper reference for "the worst" part or another hook. Materialscientist (talk) 04:27, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I probably need a sanity check for getting involved in this, but... http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12784330 "being widely described as the worst [song] ever recorded." If someone were to add that to the article I presume that would be acceptable? Alternatively, an article editor could quote and cite Simon Cowell's response "I think it's genius" etc and use that for an alternative hook. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 06:25, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Nominally, a BBC ref should be more than enough. I am just worried by its language: it says worst yet doesn't elaborate on that, and how could he know that "it's been derided by millions of people"? Materialscientist (talk) 06:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the official video has well over a million "dislikes" on YouTube, so I guess one could count that as derision, and in journalese, anything over one million counts as "millions". Contains Mild Peril (talk) 16:26, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know why people her debating the dislikes on Youtube for this song,, as the hook doesnt mention that at all. Anyway it has been established by numerous media that her song has been called worst song ever.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 23

Hans Stadlmair

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Haven't looked at Killmayer yet--Stadlmair seems fine, but for one thing: the reference for the hook is this, not exactly a reliable source. I'm going to go on and look at Killmayer, but in the meantime a better reference would be welcomed. I'm also not wild about the references--hyperlinked titles with mostly nothing but a publisher and little punctuation. I encourage the use of citation templates, or, at the least, more complete references. Drmies (talk) 17:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The same comments apply to Killmayer. Both are fine if the references are cleaned up one way or another, and if a reliable source is found for the fact in the hook: I am not comfortable with an entry from a website that sells music, even if that website is Schott Music. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the good news, Gerda. I've searched everywhere--for the history of the orchestra, the piece--and I can't find anything that is helpful here. I can't even find a decent history of the orchestra, either on their website or in Google (Books, etc.). So, I don't know what to do either, except for the obvious and mundane--tweaking the hook...leave out "20th"...this one you dug up is the most reliable of the ones I've seen, and it's a pity that it has the wrong anniversary. Drmies (talk) 20:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the 20 is also a matter of math, 25 just can't be, that is obvious.

:::::::ALT1:... that Hans Stadlmair, conductor of the Münchener Kammerorchester for almost four decades, premiered in 1971 Wilhelm Killmayer's Fin al punto, described by the composer: "The calm already contains the catastrophe"?

Yes, but the problem there again is the sourcing for the calm and the catastrophe--not reliable enough. I looked around but couldn't find the quote anywhere else, at least not in English. What is the original German? BTW, did you see this? Drmies (talk) 01:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For the latter: no. German: "Die Ruhe enthält bereits die Katastrophe in sich. Aus der Ruhe wächst die Bewegung, die sich selbst bis an den äußersten Punkt ihrer Kraft treibt, an dem sie dann zusammenfällt. Es ist der Punkt, an dem man aufgibt, hinter dem man ins Freie gelangt.", in the source you called "the most reliable" one above. They got it from WERGO, of course, as the 25th anniversary. Same here. The one you dug up describes the music "moves in an arch from a stark, spare mystery to denser anxiety". To my understanding: The publisher quoting the composer is reliable enough, it's not a kind of quote that would raise sales. All the others copied from there, sometimes not successfully so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Say yes and I'll sign off immediately. Thanks, and thank you for your continued contributions to DYK and Wikipedia, Drmies (talk) 20:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies (talk) 22:38, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Task Force on Childhood Obesity

Created by Caleylynch4 (talk). Nominated by Sadads (talk) at 10:26, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article is too short (1457 characters, DYK check was 'fooled' by non-standard formatting of a numbered list which has since been corrected) and what text is present is quite repetitive. A surprisingly high percentage of the text is the phrases "Task Force" and "Childhood Obesity" used up to several times each in a single sentence. - Dravecky (talk) 11:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am confused. If you include the prose discussing the listed items in the Objectives section, you get well over the amount of characters that is necessary for DYK (actually its about twice as much as is necessary). I believe that policy is intended to stop people from listing actual lists, like List of lakes of Norway, not prose discussions of policies within an organization. Are you seriously saying that the objectives section is a list? I could reformat it into subsections, but I think, currently, this format presents the information better. I think your interpretation of the rule, doesn't account for what is actually prose.
And if you have problems with the language or style please be bold and fix it! I will do another read, but my first read didn't see any glaring stylistic errors, Sadads (talk) 16:49, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John R. Isbell

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, hook and refs all look ok. yorkshiresky (talk) 17:51, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Alternative:
comment: Rainwater has his own article (today). Stanley and Enos are redirected back to Isbell, so maybe they should be in plain text (not bold)?  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 08:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Minnette Gersh Lenier

Created by Schmausschmaus (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:45, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. I did a copyedit of the article and noted where inline citations are needed. The "Teaching literacy" section also needs a cleanup to make it more encyclopedic. Yoninah (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Jerusalem bus stop bombing

--BabbaQ (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Cites, length, hook, noteworthiness all check out. I think it could use a few improvements in word choices and other minor style details which I will add to the article's talk page. Leidseplein (talk) 06:28, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any point naming the victim in the hook unless the victim is notable in her own right. Gatoclass (talk) 12:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Max Weber Sr.

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Gremlins (Atari 2600) from March 21
  • Perhaps somebody can make the hook more interesting. It seems that the fight is actually the most famous incident in Weber Sr. life, since his son, Weber Jr., is so much more famous - but I couldn't find a cite for such interpretation of the hook. Perhaps somebody with knowledge of German could help... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
William H. Sewell, III said that Max Jr. was often incapacitated by depression, maybe half of his working life, if my memory is correct. This makes the attribution of a depression to this event hazardous. I did some copy editing, which was also hazardous.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 00:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After checking all of the published sources listed on Google books, I changed it from "major depressive disorder" (my OR but better than the previous OR) to "nervous breakdown", which is the phrase used in most of the sources. It modern terms, he seems to have suffered from an anxiety disorder as well as depression.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 21:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 21:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please consider putting a green check on the revised Criss-cross algorithm, Klee-Minty cube (22 March). Thanks!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 21:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ray William Johnson

Created by User:Milowent (talk). Nominated by Ashershow1 (talk) at 02:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. The article still has a few {{fact}} tags, and three sections are not referenced at all. I believe this should be done before it appears on the main page. As a minor concern: The article is about the person, the hook is about the channel. Should the hook therefore not have the name in double quotes, or maybe read "that Ray William Johnson's is the second most..."? --Pgallert (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on the {{fact}} tags now. For the hook, how about ... that Ray William Johnson is the second-most subscribed person on YouTube? --Ashershow1talkcontribs 17:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FBI Atlanta Field Office

Lewis Baley

  • ... that the first director of the Atlanta Division of the FBI was Lewis J. Baley (pictured)?

Created by SunCountryGuy01 (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The subsections "1920s and 30s" and "Post 9/11 period" contain very close paraphrasing of this FBI source, which you have not cited at all. These should be rewritten in your own words, and clearly cited to that page. The source is PD, but it still needs to be summarized by you to avoid plagiarism. These sections need to be properly attributed per our PD Plagiarism guidelines, and preferably backed up with a secondary source.
  • Also, the history has a big gap - 1940 - 2001. The source above covers those periods.
  • Source three is used three times for information it does not contain. Is this a mislink?
The Interior (Talk) 05:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment According to here it is not possible to plagiarize from a PD us-gov source (the site is owned by iParadigms the owners of turnitin.com which confirms in my opinion that it is reasonable to assume that they know what they are talking about) Best, Mifter (talk) 22:34, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is still possible to plagiarize a PD source if you do not attribute it, as is the case here. But it looks like we allow straight copy/paste of PD text if we follow these guidelines:[2] Cites are needed and an attribution template should be used. So it doesn't need to be rewritten, true. Thanks for getting me to read the rules a bit closer. However, in this case, we are using a primary source (The FBI's own official history). I still think it would be wise to summarize the history oneself, and try to back it up with a secondary source. There are pov issues to consider as well. regards, The Interior (Talk) 07:24, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • thank you Mifter for adding link to source. I'd say we have two options here, 1) Accept FBI source as RS and NPOV, and just copy/paste the complete history from the FBI site, using the proper PD attribution template. 2) Find secondary source for history and rewrite to rem. the close paraphrase.(web search hasn't turned up much besides the FBI site) Or, I guess 3) remove the nom as a fail due to sourcing problems. The author has archived my message to respond here, at this point they don't seem very interested. The Interior (Talk) 17:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walter M. Lowrey

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Machan (film)
Length, date check out. Dewikilinked historian and 1970 and reworded hook for clarity. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Polish State Forests

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Follow On (hymn)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 17:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the hook reference in article, that apparently is suppose to be in first line of "Present day" sub-section. Counting the characters I come up with 1476, just shy of the 1500 minimum required.--Doug Coldwell talk 17:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well the hook ref is the BBC source and yes it is in the present day subsection. As for the character count, when I ran it through that javascript thing it came up with 1,600something (taking away the headings and the refs). I've added a few more words to hopefully fill it to satisfaction. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks for adding on more characters. That will work. I am still a little stumped however on the hook: that the music to the hymn Follow On was later adopted by Rangers F.C. as the music for their anthem, Follow Follow. Does that BBC source ([5]) say that someplace? Where is that wording? If it does, then I'll be fine with it.--Doug Coldwell talk 20:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is mentioned onwards from 37:15 in the video. The quote is that "Like most football songs of the 20th Centuary it (Follow Follow) was originally a hymn associated with the Salvation Army, I would like to invite you to stand to sing the original words of the hymn, Follow on" There is a version of it on it's own but unfortunatly it's a Youtube video not released by the BBC so I can't use that as a source even though I'd like to as it contains the main elements which I'm trying to use as the source. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hezekiah Holland (minister)

The true effigies of Hezekiah Holland, Minister of the Gospell at Sutton Valence in Kent

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


James R. Whelan

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just changed "forced out of the paper" to "dismissed from the paper" - which I think reads better. Hope you approve. Cheers John Hill (talk) 10:29, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but for some reason I thought the exact wording of the hook had to be in the article. I can't remember where I got this idea from. Can anyone please straighten me out on this matter? Many thanks, John Hill (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm, I'm not totally sure, but I do believe it's the fact that needs to be in the article and cited, not the exact phrasing. You can just look around at a bunch of the one's being approved, I think?--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Zeal and Activity, American Standard (John Adams)

Created by AjaxSmack (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 24

United States v. Thirty-seven Photographs, United States v. 12 200-ft. Reels of Film, Quantity of Books v. Kansas, Marcus v. Search Warrant

  • Reviewed: Carl Lundgren ([3])
  • Comment: I had originally put together this group for April Fool's Day (hey, in rem cases are funny!) Since it didn't even get reviewed in time, I just decided to make it a regular submission. I hope it's OK; if it were accepted it would be a personal record for most articles in a single hook

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Post-detection policies

  • Comment: Article created as part of my role as a student in the US Public Policy WikiProject. Moved from sandbox on March 24.

Created by Boonefrog (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article looks great and well-written and otherwise well-qualified for DYK, but I noticed that the 303 words of block-quoted text in the section entitled "IAA SETI Declaration of Principles" are all copied seemingly verbatim from the webpage they are cited to (note 16). Isn't this a copyright violation? Perhaps some experts in WP copyright issues could offer suggestions? It would seem that the article could be reworked to address this issue. --Health Researcher (talk) 03:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, it is completely copied. I should not have stated "summarized" above it. I wanted to list them in full but don't know how to do block quotations or large quotes like that (I am obviously completely new to Wikipedia). If someone could leave me some advice on this - either here or on the article's talk page that would be most helpful. Boonefrog (talk) 03:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Terje Sagvolden

Terje Sagvolden

Created by Crusio (talk). Self nom at 13:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Lundgren

1906 Fan Craze baseball card of Carl Lundgren

  • ... that Cubs pitcher Carl Lundgren (pictured) had "speed to burn green hickory and an assortment of curves that would keep a criptograph specialist figuring all night but he was wild as a March hare in a cyclone"?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Alfred Keller (sculptor). See diff here. Cbl62 (talk) 17:21, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Morris S. Halliday

Photograph of State Senator Morris S. Halliday

Created by 09er (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Hensley Settlement (Kentucky)

Brush Mountain School House at Hensley Settlement

  • ... that Brush Mountain School (pictured) at Hensley Settlement in Kentucky has no electricity or indoor plumbing, but has a stove in the middle of the room?

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting article and a fascinating place. Date and length check out, but the problem is with the refs. For the first hook, the ref given (ref 6) doesn't mention the lack of plumbing or electricity specifically in the schoolhouse. It says there wasn't electricity in the Settlement when the last guy left, so you could infer lack of electricity in the schoolhouse; water/plumbing isn't really mentioned. For the second hook, it isn't mentioned in the ref given (ref 11) specifically that the Settlement is an Appalachian living history museum, just that it's a historic settlement. Stronach (talk) 12:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's forget about the original hook. There is no electricity or plumbing, but to have something that specifically says it about the school is not there. I have eliminated that sentence from the lead.
  • Alt 1, I have linked it to the "Visit Hensley" article that calls it a "truly rural Appalachian settlement", and the two (KET-TV and Kentucky Encyclopedia) that say it is a "living museum". I have also added a ref to the NHPS Hensley Settlement Collection at Lincoln Memorial University, with a folder titled "Living History at Hensley Settlement ". Maile66 (talk) 14:35, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Walkden High School

  • ... that Walkden High School sent home 200 pupils were turned away because they failed to meet the dress code?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by User:Doh5678 (talk). Nominated by User:Doh5678 (talk) at 19:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article has only 516 characters in prose (1500 are required). Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 25

Domonique Ramirez

  • ... that Miss San Antonio 2010 Domonique Ramirez temporarily lost her title after pageant officials complained that Ramirez had gained weight and allegedly told her to "get off the tacos"?

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 21:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed:Abu Ali Iyad.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed it.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dieter Schenk

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk), HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length good; hook verified. –MuZemike 22:43, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Camping (Parks and Recreation)

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Had a read through the reference here and it doesn't mention the hook. Can a new reference be provided? Miyagawa (talk) 12:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • This was due to a mistake on my part. There are two sources in the article written by Hillary Busis and both were referred to by the ref name "Busis". So this particular citation linked to the wrong Busis article. Anyway, I've fixed it, so I think the source now is good. — Hunter Kahn 14:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kenny Meadows

  • ... that Kenny Meadows has been described as one of the best illustrators to work for Punch in the magazine's early years?

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

length/newness/hook all check out. Nicely written article with good illustrations - perhaps you should use one of them in the DYK hook? Tzu Zha Men (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Sian O'Callaghan

Savernake Forest near Grand Avenue in connection with the disappearance

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lion Gate

A ruined prehistoric gate built by massive stones. A relief of two lions stands above the entrance

  • ... that the Lion Gate (pictured), the main entrance of the Bronze Age citadel of Mycenae, southern Greece, stood in full view thoughout the ages?

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 17:01, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Wrath of the Titans
Indeed, alt hook looks much more interesting.Alexikoua (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dacian Draco

  • ... that at the height of battle the wolf’s head of the Dacian Draco, with its several metal tongues, made a shrill sound and its strips of material waved in the wind?

Created by Boldwin (talk). Nominated by Codrinb (talk) at 15:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Manfield

Alice Manfield, or Guide Alice, is pictured in a full length portrait wearing a pant suit consisting of woollen bloomers and a high-necked buttoned jacket pulled in tightly around the waist. She has a type of leggings tightly wrapped around her calves, low-heeled walking boots, a beanie, and is holding a long walking pole

Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Charles Angrand

French artist Charles Angrand's self-portrait in conté crayon on a black background, depicting himself formally dressed, wearing a top hat, and smoking a small cigar

  • ... that Paul Signac praised Charles Angrand's drawings (self-portrait pictured) as "masterpieces", calling them "poems of light"?

5x expanded by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Service Entrance (diff)


Buckingham Hotel

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 06:45, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Union Building (University of Texas at Austin)

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Traditional fixed markets in Mexico

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Tiarajudens from 25 MarchThelmadatter (talk) 03:10, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Everything checks, source accepted on good faith. One thing, it might be better to avoid the unnecessary adverb in the hook and go with something like "that despite being set up in a similar manner, government-sponsored fixed markets never replaced "tianguis" or open air markets in Mexico".Volunteer Marek (talk) 20:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George (dog)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William Brill

Half portrait of man in dark-coloured uniform with flying goggles

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dimachaeri

  • ... that the Dimachaeri (pictured), a type of gladiator, used a fighting style adapted to defend with his weapons rather than a shield?

Created by Richard Ian Sayers (talk). Nominated by LiteralKa (talk) at 21:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1773 characters. AGF on the offline source. I added an ISBN and removed the stubs and Orphan tag. Added image to hook. I'm not certain about the image licensing, which pertains to two-dimensional works, so please verify the licensing before queuing up the image. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Follow Follow

  • ... that a parrot was branded sectarian after being heard whistling "Follow Follow"?

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I took the precidence for not counting the lyrics from This discussion. But I think you may have misread the nomination. It's not a request from a new article, it's a request from a 5x expansion. I have since improved it to be above the character limit. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 09:12, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and hook ref are good now, and (Although the script says its not), it is a 5x expansion (starting on the 23rd) because on the 13th it had 278 chars and it now has over 1500. --E♴(talk) 14:08, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Convoys in World War I

Convoy

--BabbaQ (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and timing are right. My issue is with the hook. Merchantmen links to a disambiguation page, so you don't know what is meant. Change that, and it should be good to go. Also, the photo is not from WWI, it's a WWII photo, because that plane is definitely WWII vintage.OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:09, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the issues.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:22, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Serbian Kovin Monastery

The monastery

--BabbaQ (talk) 15:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:37, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints Church, Little Somborne

A simple plain church with a red roof and a bellcote

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

looks good to me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Chicago White Sox first-round draft picks

Created by Wizardman (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Fite House

Created by Folklore1 (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Claim in hook sourced to two offline articles, although I would suggest adding in a date in the hook, eg. "served as the United States capitol for two months from December 1776-February 1777?" Chipmunkdavis (talk) 08:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about, "served as the United States capitol for two months during the winter of 1776-1777?" Folklore1 (talk) 13:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kepler-11g

  • ... that the mass of the extrasolar planet Kepler-11g could not be determined because its orbit is too far from those of its sister planets?

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Starstriker7(Talk) 00:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: FAIR USE Act. I listed this as the article I reviewed for the other Kepler planet nominations I've nominated (see T:TDYK#Kepler-11b, Kepler-11c, Kepler-11d, Kepler-11e, Kepler-11f). If necessary, I can review another. --Starstriker7(Talk) 01:43, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 26

Bait ball

Two whales lunge feeding

  • ... that some whales "lunge feed" on bait balls (pictured), an extreme method of feeding which has been called the largest biomechanical event on Earth?

Created by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 09:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dead Women Crossing, Oklahoma

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Los únicos

Created by MBelgrano (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Isabella Furnace

Stack, wheel house, and casting house of Isabella Furnace about a decade after abandonment. The wheel house is dilapidated and collapsing; the rest of the structures are slightly overgrown but otherwise in good repair.

Created by Choess (talk). Self nom at 05:30, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Mehadia

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John T. Olson

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This Is Show Business

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:26, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Pete Padgett
  • With all the famous panelists cited in the article, I'm wondering why you singled out Susann? A more interesting hook might be:
  • ALT1: ... that in September 1951, This Is Show Business, a panel discussion hosted by Clifton Fadiman, became the first CBS program to be televised live from coast to coast?
  • I also wonder if you can find any more information in sources other than IMDB and Total Television. Some parts are rather sketchy; e.g. I don't get George Kaufman's joke. Does it have something to do with the coast-to-coast broadcast? Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Kaufman remark is in Total Television. I thoughtSusann was a name remembered from the past that might interest readers, and one of her husbands was involved with This Is Show Buiness in its last episode.

Revised hook: . . . that in 1951, This Is Show Business became the first CBS program to be televised live from coast to coast? (Source also Total Television) Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Love Faces

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 07:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chamberlain Bridge

Chamberlain Bridge in Bridgetown

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frances Howard, Duchess of Richmond

Frances Stewart, née Howard, Duchess of Richmond

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- PKM (talk) 21:01, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flawn Academic Center

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon (yacht)

Created by Steam buff (talk). Nominated by The Interior (talk) at 00:07, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 08:30, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trolleybuses in Derby

British Trolleybus

  • ... that trolleybuses in Derby (example pictured) last operated in 1967, but there are still five preserved by collectors?

Created by Bahnfrend (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 23:56, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. yorkshiresky (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Victuallers reviewed Della mercatura e del mercante perfetto Victuallers (talk) 11:06, 28 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]


List of Olympic venues in ski jumping

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Acid-Fest

Created by 72.74.224.133 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dennis Coralluzzo Invitational

Created by 72.74.224.133 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Sandwich

A stone church with a tiled roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Iman al-Obeidi

Created by Cinosaur (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and ref check out. My issue is the hook itself, which I'm not sure is one that satisfies hook criteria for biographies. Despite its factual accuracy, it seems to border on disparaging for a BLP. I welcome other editors to chime in on this. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jrcla2, thanks for reviewing the nomination. Will something like:
Alt1: ... that Libyan woman lawyer Iman al-Obeidi, who accused Muammar Gaddafi's troops of politically-motivated rape, was named by the Washington Post a "symbol of defiance against Gaddafi"?
I checked the source referenced in the article and saw no mention of "symbol of defiance" anywhere. If I overlooked it please correct me and tell me where it's found. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, thanks for catching that. Two versions of the same WP article got mixed up. Fixed. Here is the correct link, which is now cited in the article. The "symbol of defiance" is in the third last paragraph. Of the two Alts, this hook seems to read more catchy. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 16:20, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alt2:... that the Time magazine called Iman al-Obeidi's charging Muammar Gaddafi's troops with politically-motivated rape "the Libyan regime's other crisis"?
More neutral and checks out. No issues with this hook. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
be any more acceptable? (For the record, next time I would appreciate being notified of a problem, as per DYK review guidelines above.) Thanks and regards, Cinosaur (talk) 15:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you used , which is supposed to indicate that "Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible". However, you said that your issue was the hook itself, and not the article. Did you mean to use instead? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 07:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can tell that a lot of work went into the article, so I feel bad about saying this, but I think it would be inappropriate to showcase this article on the main page. It purports to be a biographical article, but it is wholly about one high-profile news story, the woman's only claim to fame. It would be better to incorporate this content into the articles related to the Libya conflict or human rights there than to have a biographical article on the woman. Moreover, the incident in question was only a few days ago, and it is still an evolving news story. Dominic·t 02:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your comment and appreciation of the work done, Dominic. FYI, there have already been discussions both about the woman's notability and about merging the article to 2011 Libya uprising. Both ruled in favor of keeping the article, mostly per WP:EFFECT and WP:NTEMP as clearly overriding WP:BLP1E concerns in this case. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 15:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The flip side of "notability is not temporary," of course, is that fleeting news stories (which are of only temporary interest) are not notable. That's neither here nor there, because we aren't deciding the article's fate here, but I think it is significant that a common opinion on the talk page is that we really ought to wait and see regarding the significance of topic, and not be hasty with deletion. I can accept that sentiment, but, in that case, it hardly sounds like the kind of thing that belongs on the main page. From a pragmatic standpoint as well, of all the new articles, this one is sure to get plenty of page-views in with or without DYK. ;-) Dominic·t 16:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dominic, pragmatic considerations aside, only half of the editors on the talk page mentioned waiting as an option (so not a common opinion), but all were unanimous is recognizing the person's stand-alone notability. But even this aside, the al-Obeidi incident's already gone far beyond fleeting news stories, having triggered rallies in Libya and US, statements by the UK Foreign Secretary, opposition and Amnesty-International, feature stories in the most influential printed and electronic media with titles as the above, and massive campaigns on social networks. Whether the furore will die away or not (which it sure will some day), is already of little relevance, per WP:EFFECT. That's why I think it merits a DYK. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 17:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cinosaur asked me to take an independant look at this nomination. Firstly I have to agree that either of the ALTs are better than the original as they fulfil the neutral requirement better. Secondly I think that here is not the suitable place to argue notability either for or against. If an editor feels strongly enough then they should take this to AfD and argue the case there. Of course you could say that notability is a requirement of rule B1, but in which case it should be argued in the appropriate place. You should take into account that a merge proposal has already taken place on the article's talk page. Miyagawa (talk) 12:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Leonard Pagliero

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size, date, hook ref are all fine. However, The Time ref yields a 404 error. Please consider replacing it with an archived version so the article does not rely on a single source. Pending the ref fix, it's good to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Issue resolved. Good to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 03:15, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1965 Pacific hurricane season

Created/expanded by Yellow Evan (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Data from the ACE is the best track. Using the formula from the ACE article, we calculate the data. YE Tropical Cyclone 14:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't questioning the data at all but the lack of a citation on the paragraph explaining ACE.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added a citation. YE Tropical Cyclone

Della mercatura e del mercante perfetto

cover page to Della mercatura e del mercante perfetto

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • All fine- if anything there are too many refs. For instance "An early copy of Della mercatura e del mercante perfetto from the end of the fifteenth century is at the National Library of Malta" has two refs. I'd be convinced by either of the refs. However this is not an issue so tick. Victuallers (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anthidium exhumatum and Anthidium scudderi

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Up-island spider

Created by Amatulic (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nominator's note: Scant information is available on this critter. Just today, while sorting through some old papers, I happened across an old print newspaper article (2 pages long!) about this spider from a time when I lived in Maine, and it motivated me to create this article on Wikipedia. I found myself frustrated by the lack of sources, although one can find a few blogs and other links mentioning this spider. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:12, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not long enough (904 characters) to qualify for DYK. I also cant find anything on this spider in regards to it being a distinct or even real species.--Kevmin § 06:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Without a species name, I don't think we can run this. The article basically reads like a rumour. Gatoclass (talk) 00:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marino Murillo

  • ... that Marino Murillo, the former Minister of Economy and Planning of Cuba, believes the Cuban economic system is too paternalistic and supports the creation of a small-scale private market?

Created by TIAYN (talk) 17:23, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anesrif, High Plateau line

Created by Bobrayner (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Indian rolling. This is my second (and third) attempt at DYK; thought it might be a good idea to try for a double... the hook is cited in both articles.

Social Foundations of Thought and Action

5x expanded by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 22:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 27

Gent Strazimiri

Created by Vinie007 (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, article now has 1523! --Vinie007 11:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daytona Cubs

Jackie Robinson Ballpark, where the Daytona Cubs play

5x expanded by Gamweb (talk), NatureBoyMD (talk). Nominated by Gamweb (talk) at 09:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Francis A. Dales

  • ... that cadet Francis A. Dales began Operation Pedestal on an American merchant ship, continued on a British destroyer, and ended it on an American tanker requisitioned and manned by a British crew?
  • Comment: His being on the merchant ship is referenced at the start of section “SS Santa Elisa”, his being on the destroyer is referenced at the end of that section, and his being on the tanker is referenced in the second half of the second paragraph of section “SS Ohio”. The tanker's requisitioning and manning is referenced in the third paragraph of “Background”. Small COI: Demiurge1000 nominated my article a few days ago, now I am nominating his article. Note: article was moved from userspace on March 27.

Created by Demiurge1000 (talk). Nominated by Adwiii (talk) at 22:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cemeteries and crematoria in Brighton and Hove

Several ornate stone graves on a grassy area with many trees in full leaf, set behind a path.

  • Reviewed: Leopold von Mildenstein ((diff))
  • Comment: Daft hook, but rather quirky... I can supply more sensible ALTs if preferred. Ref is currently number [116] at the end of Section 3.1.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: If we can have copulating dinosaurs (with a color photo, to boot) in DYK, surely, we can have a daft hook. Please do not supply a sensible hook, even if asked. Marrante (talk) 23:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jayden Pitt

5x expanded by The-Pope (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Space Between Us (novel)

Created by Kaguya-chan (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excerpt from Washington Post: "Bhima (based on a real-life Bombay housekeeper known to Umrigar when the latter was a child)." Thank you for assuming good faith anyway. :) Kaguya-chan (talk) 22:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed Berlin im Aufbau Diff Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Register of Electors

  • ... that a penalty of up to $5,000 or one year in prison may result from the unauthorised use of data contained in the permanent database of eligible Canadian electors, the National Register of Electors?

Created by Mindmatrix (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm not fond of the hook as I wrote it above though, so I'd welcome suggestions.
ALT1: ... that a penalty of one year in prison may result from the unauthorised use of data contained in the permanent database of eligible Canadian electors, the National Register of Electors?
ALT2: ... that a penalty of one year in prison may result from the unauthorised use of data from the National Register of Electors, the permanent database of eligible Canadian electors?
Perhaps a different tidbit from the article could be used. Mindmatrix 15:28, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that a penalty of one year in prison may result from the unauthorised use of data from the National Register of Electors, the permanent database of eligible Canadian voters? Mindmatrix 23:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Heinrich Schmelen

A historic drawing of head and torso of a middle-aged white man in a dark clerical dress. He wears short, dark hair, the face is filigree with small lips and wrinkles on his cheek.

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


George Johnstone (Royal Navy officer)

Oval miniature portrait of a balding man, facing left, wearing a blue coat and white shirt

5x expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Miller (Czech actor)

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Beidha (archaeological site).♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear Policy of the United States

  • Comment: This is a new article moved from my sandbox, created in part by a Graduate Student in the MPA department of Western Carolina University
  • Comment: I still have to do a careful reading of this article, but I have already found one grammatical mistake in the lede (or lead, if you prefer), and typos and weasel words just looking randomly at the article. Although there is some mention of how government policy has favored nuclear over renewable energy, the little I've read of the article is that it reads like a public relations piece for the industry. I know this is an educational project, but this is a graduate student. I think we can expect more. The idea that the nuclear industry in the US is highly regulated is what the government and industry say. Critics do not. Read this in which the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) released a study critical of the nuclear regulation, saying it has not been “timely, consistent, or effective" and citing 14 "near-misses" at U.S. plants just in 2010. That doesn't sound like strict regulation to me, though if you're holding up regulation of the banking industry for comparison and looking at the financial meltdown of 2008, it's true the nuclear industry hasn't unleashed devastation quite on that scale. Yet. Marrante (talk) 15:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have just made some minor corrections to the beginning part of the article. No doubt, more are needed. This article needs to be read thoroughly by the author, perhaps after a night's sleep. (I find that it helps me a lot to have a day or two in between when I'm going in for what I assume will be a final edit. It often is not.) Marrante (talk) 17:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you Marrante, please see my talk page for my response to your awesome feadback that you took the time to write on top of this, I will be editing this in the next day or so, and I hope you would be willing to re-read and consider passing the article once it is fully edited and sources formatted. Feel free to respond to me on my talk page about anything I have said. Thanks again, be well Kayz 03:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Pete Padgett

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Starred"? That seems a bit too POV/PEACOCK-ish. You are better off with a hook about his conference-record/leading stats. --PFHLai (talk) 13:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Keller (sculptor)

Created by Gary2863 (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article is not long enough (slightly over 800 characters, needs to be > 1500) and lacks in-line citations. These would need to be addressed before it could pass as a DYK. Cbl62 (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

H. S. Lloyd

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources, date, and length check out. Good work, Ruby2010 talk 02:13, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Live at Fillmore West

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self nom at 12:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is fine but the length of the prose seems to be just a little bit short. I'd suggest expanding the History section a little more and adding to the lead section the fact about Curtis's death. Prioryman (talk) 08:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have expanded prose as requested. yorkshiresky (talk) 15:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1979 Gillette Cup Final

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment By the way, I recommend the original proposed hook, because it gives credit to the whole team and is more extraordinary, but I think there's a little grammar mistake. Here's how it should be:

Pensacola Dam

Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 08:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Love faces

Hollingworth Magniac

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John T. Cunningham

  • ... that John T. Cunningham, who has chronicled much of New Jersey's past, once said, "My goals did not include either the writing of books or becoming a historian"?

Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adolfas Ramanauskas

A man in a military uniform is kneeling on one knee. He is armed with a rifle and a hand grenade. A light forest is behind him.

  • ... that just one day after arrest Lithuanian partisan commander Adolfas Ramanauskas (pictured) was transferred to a hospital in a critical condition with a punctured eye and missing testicles?

Created by Renata3 (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Operation Kita (diff)

Archangel Ancient Tree Archive

Created by Obamas Barrack (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 28 March 2011 (UTC) | reviewed = Vespaiola[reply]

The article is too short (quite a long way shy of 1,500 characters). Ericoides (talk) 08:36, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 28

Berlin im Aufbau

  • ... that the documentary film Berlin im Aufbau has historical significance in that it documents the first phase of the rebuilding of the destroyed city of Berlin after World War II?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

West Weber, Utah

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), The Utahraptor (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lotti Golden

A head-and-shoulders photograph of a woman wearing sunglasses

  • ... that American singer-songwriter Lotti Golden (pictured) was a cult icon in the late 1960s whose debut album "captured women's liberation and motorcycle soul in one psychedelic swoop"?

Created by Garyr2w (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 14:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, dates, and refs check out. Not sure about the hook though, since the quote is one person's (or magazine's) opinion, and the hook should probably make it clearer who that person is. Anaxial (talk) 21:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tierra del Fuego National Park

British ship Beagle

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 10:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jersey J-Cup

Created by 72.74.224.133 (talk). 10:54, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

David E. Davis

  • ... that automotive journalist David E. Davis Jr. wore a full beard because he had once overturned his 1955 MG while racing and disfigured his face – the ambulance attendant discarding pieces of his nasal cartilage?

5x expanded by 842U (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Reavis

James Reavis, The Baron of Arizona

  • ALT1:... that James Reavis (pictured) sued the U.S. government for US$11,000,000 in damages because they denied his forged and fraudulent land claim?

The Baron of Arizona during his imprisonment in Santa Fe, New Mexico Territory

  • ALT2:... that the U.S. government imprisoned the Baron of Arizona (pictured) after learning he had damaged books in Mexican and Spanish libraries?
  • Reviewed: Nahuel Huapi National Park ([15])
  • Comment: For ALT2, "damaged books" means inserted forged documents into bound volumes and the "libraries" (collections of books and manuscripts) refers to governmental records archives. Would request image with prison clothes be used in ALT2 is selected.

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Santorini (ship)

  • ... that the crew of the Santorini tried and failed to smuggle weapons into the Gaza strip three times, before being caught on their fourth attempt?
  • Dates, length, and sourcing look good; suggested ALT:
ALT1 that the crew of the Santorini tried and failed to smuggle weapons, hidden inside barrels, into the Gaza strip three times, before being caught on their fourth attempt?842U (talk) 17:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Tzu Zha Men (talk), Biosketch (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nahuel Huapi National Park

Nahuel Huapi Lake in the Nahuel Huapi National Park

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 15:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did some c/e on the article. Length, date etc. check out. Image is ok. Some sentences read a little bit like a tourist advert, but I think it is just ok. However, I think that the hook can be improved. How about:
ALT1 ... that Nahuel Huapi National Park in Argentina is named after Nahuel Huapi Lake (pictured), with Nahuel and Huapi meaning "tiger" and "island" in the Mapuche language?
All good then.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 13:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Penally Abbey and St Teilo

Saint Teilo riding a deer

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: USRC WayandaDr. Blofeld 13:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the wording. It was the abbey that was founded in the 6th century, not the hotel, right? —Emufarmers(T/C) 03:16, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

USRC Wayanda

Deck of USRC Wayanda

Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 11:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Date length and hook verified. Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pawtuxet class cutter, USRC Ashuelot, USRC Kankakee, USRC Kewanee, USRC Pawtuxet, USRC Levi Woodbury

USRC Levi Woodbury

All new articles except Levi Woodbury which is a x5 expansion. Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 11:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work, my own Gato, Mar Bigglesworth is meeowwing in approval. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Blofeld (talkcontribs) 21:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious, do navy vessels not count as ships in the service of the U.S. government? I'm sure there is a fine distinction here that I'm missing, otherwise USS Constitution for one would have been far older. Could it be clarified what U.S. government service means in terms of departments like the navy, coastguard, revenue service? Benea (talk) 00:31, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the qualifier "active" or "active duty" to both the hook and article to clarify the point. Also changed "longest serving" to "oldest" to conform more closely with the source. Gatoclass (talk) 03:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I have simplified the hook to just "Coast Guard" - it's more hooky that way anyway. Gatoclass (talk) 11:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Isaac Perrins

Created by Sitush (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook, refs and length checks out. Interesting article, might be useful to have an inflation adjusted total to show the scale of the event e.g. £20,000 is equivalent to £2.2 million today http://safalra.com/other/historical-uk-inflation-price-conversion/ yorkshiresky (talk) 12:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Komnenos Asen

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 08:50, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Ghost Network

Created Ruby2010 talk 01:17, 29 March 2011 (UTC) [reply]

ALT1: ... that in the Fringe episode "The Ghost Network", the writers wanted guest actor Zak Orth to shave his head in preparation for a scene, but he successfully "begged" them not to?
Reviewed: H. S. Lloyd Ruby2010 talk 02:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is he an accomplished pianist then? If so it needs to be mentioned in his personal life in his article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:32, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about "accomplished", but he does know how to play it... Ruby2010 talk 22:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer the alt hook anyway, which I think is more fun. I don't have any problem with the first hook though: it would be less interesting if the fact that he plays the piano were already well known. Length, date and hook(s) (offline source accepted in good faith) all good, but ideally I'd like to see a bit more in the Plot section, which currently has an "expansion needed" tag. The additional guideline D7 says articles should look more-or-less complete, so if you could add a little to the plot section (spoilers optional) and remove the tag I'd be happier that it's ready for the main page. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 13:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I expanded the plot slightly and removed the tag. I'll re-add the tag after it's done being posted on the main page. Thanks for taking the time to look it over. Also, I like the alt hook better too. Thanks, Ruby2010 talk 15:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recycling in Canada

5x expanded by Kevlar67 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the hook should be more specific. There may be too many red links for topics that will never be pursued further. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with above user. Plus the citations need to have full ref templates, rather than bare URLS (there is a tag noting this already, I'm just drawing attention to it). Ruby2010 talk 22:27, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Berlin Romance

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, one of the sources says one of the strongest critiques of Americanization in Germany in the 1950s...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You'd have to point me to it, because there are quite a few sources for the article, and some of them discuss the film at length. Gatoclass (talk) 13:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here.

Well, I could point out that the source uses a relative term "strongest", rather than the absolute "strong" - and that "Americanization" isn't mentioned in that source at all. However, given that the source also says later that the movie portrayed consumerism in a "harsh light", I'm not going to quibble about it. Gatoclass (talk) 02:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Franciscan Church, Zamość

  • ... that the Franciscan Church in Zamość (pictured) was regarded as one of the largest of the 17th century Polish churches?

Created by BurgererSF (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 28 March 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Ok, improved. BurgererSF (talk) 13:51, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Llanwenarth House, The Good Hotel Guide

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Double hook, Llanwenarth House created evening of the 27th. Guide created today 28th. Reviewed:Ajdabiya

For this double nom: dates, length OK. Offline ref AGF. But the date 2002 is not in the text of Llanwenarth House. Suggest this be added after "César Award". Otherwise fine. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Gradsky

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Contains Mild Peril (talk), Vald (talk). Self nom at 11:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(this is only my second DYK self-nom, but I'll try to review another one later anyway) Contains Mild Peril (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ajdabiya

Prose expanded 5x, mostly by me, over the last five days (counting from this version of 24 March). Prioryman (talk) 08:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work but I'm not for some reason seeing the reference for this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:09, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's there but it perhaps wasn't as clear as it should have been - I've amended it for clarity's sake. Look for the first iteration of reference [6], the book by Azema. Prioryman (talk) 14:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine now. Date length and offline ref accepted in good faith, Good to go, lovely seeing people expanding African cities... Hope you wish to expand others too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Hallmarks of Cancer

Created by HenryScow (talk). Nominated by Tom Morris (talk) at 14:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and ref all check out. However, I suggest using the ALT below, as the wording of the current one makes it sound like all cancers have those common features in the year 2000, which is obviously not what you are trying to convey. — Hunter Kahn 01:59, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's definitely an improvement, yes. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 29

Devastation Trail

  • ... that Pele's hair (pictured), and Pele's tears are well preserved at Devastation Trail after the 1959 eruption of Kīlauea Iki crater?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Blockade of Wonsan

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by TexasAndroid (talk) at 13:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • A stub on the subject existed before the 29th, but was apparently unused in the creation of the new article. It was under a slightly different article title. So this is really a new article, not an expansion. I performed a History Merge of the old stub's history with the new article when I first came across them. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. 1 Basic Flying Training School RAAF

Single-engined military monoplane parked on airfield

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Breast shaped hill

Twin hills on Mykonos that known to the locals as the Breasts of Aphrodite.

Created/expanded by Xufanc (talk). Nominated by AgadaUrbanit (talk) at 15:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ever heard the expression "Damn that hill is really getting on my tits?"♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Klopp Castle

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And I have now reviewed Place the Face: diff. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amy Krouse Rosenthal

Created by Ksc98 (talk). Nominated by Bearian (talk) at 21:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Wright (academic)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 12:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sources check out, and while the date seems to indicate that it was created on 30 March, the fact it was created at three minutes past midnight means I think we can assume the work to write it was done on 29 March. As long as no one wants to override me on that, this should be fine. Benea (talk) 02:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

R. E. Grant Govan

Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 08:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: St. Florian's Cathedral [17] Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:16, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Scrivens

ALT... that goaltender Ben Scrivens signed with the Toronto Maple Leafs organization mainly for the opportunity to work with goalie coach Francois Allaire?

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is cited to a LinkedIn profile, but LinkedIn is not a reliable source because we have no way of verifying that the creator of the profile is actually the person in question. Info should be removed per WP:BLP, and a new hook found. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 06:00, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Man in the Moone

Frontispiece and title page of the second edition of Frances Godwin's The Man in the Moone, 1657

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 04:03, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article size ok, date of expansion confirmed, and will take print reference on Good Faith (from what I could see on google preview the reference certainly discusses this book at length). Interesting topic, too! dramatic (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blofeld, with evil laser beam?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Place the Face

ALT: ... that the old television game show Place the Face asked contestants to recognize glimpses of nearly forgotten persons from their past?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Jerry Harper
  • Expansion and references look good. It could use a proofread / copyedit for punctuation (especially spacing between sentences) and other minor issues, as well as being assigned a class / possibly some wikiprojects. The hook as it is written could use some tweaking. Possibly something like "... that Place the Face was a game show that rewarded contestants with better prizes for fast identifications?" Canada Hky (talk) 04:21, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I put in an alternative. Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I like the ALT, but the text still needs a copyedit. Spacing between sentences especially. Canada Hky (talk) 14:04, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Harper

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:56, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Halabiye Dam, Zalabiye

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Museo Soumaya

5x expanded by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • According to DYK check there was 1122 characters before expansion, now there are 5461 characters. Going off that you need another 149 characters to get 5x expansion. Cheers, BigDom 20:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The length is now Shubinator-happy. But the hook was not quite accurate. The museum contains the largest collection of Rodin's sculptures outside France, not the largest collection of his art, which also included paintings, drawings and prints. Also, I think you short-change the hook by leaving out the detail about what the museum is, essentially one couple's private collection of art. How about one of these alternate hooks instead? ALT2 is less verbose, but if people don't understand the implications of "private museum", they may need the extra explanation contained in ALT1. Marrante (talk) 06:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1: ... that the Museo Soumaya, a private museum based on one couple's art collection, has the largest collection of Auguste Rodin sculpture outside of France?
  • ALT2: ... that the Museo Soumaya, a private museum, has the largest collection of sculpture by Auguste Rodin outside of France?
  • Thought I'd stick this in, in case it's needed again. 07:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Comment I think the 1122 size of the article before the expansion is counting the coordinates - then in the middle of a sentence. Without that it was just about 5x - that its been expanded since has ended this debate anyways! Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 11:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Khanfar, Abyan

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Ennigaldi (Ennigaldi-Nanna), Ennigaldi-Nanna’s museumDr. Blofeld 21:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Inglis (d. 1833)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Galatea of the Spheres

  • Comment: pity we can't use the image :(

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's a pity for sure; I love Dalí. Anyway, length, date are ok. Refs AGF (I can't view the book in Google Books). The only thing is, there needs to be a ref immediately after the sentence in which the fact is mentioned. Could you add that? There was a ref after the next sentence, but I moved that sentence up in the text, and it would not count for the DYK fact anyway.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Reviewed Union Building (University of Texas at Austin) above. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Capel-le-Ferne

A flint church with a red tiled roof and a short west tower

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates and references check out, looks good to go. Benea (talk) 20:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Großgaststätte Ahornblatt

  • ... that the Großgaststätte Ahornblatt, a concrete building in the shape of a maple leaf with a restaurant and a shopping arcade for East German government workers, was built in 1973 and demolished in 2000?

Created/expanded by Robert Clausen (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 17:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, hook and refs all ok. References are in German, but translation indicates that they support the text.yorkshiresky (talk) 17:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No hyphen in East German in English (I've removed it). Also, I removed the wikilinks to the German Wikipedia in the article. One is okay, but four? That's a bit much. People reading the English Wikipedia may not speak German and when they click on link after link to a page they can't read, it gets to be annoying. If you think there is not likely to be a page in English for that article, just don't link it. It's okay to have a red link here and there.
That hook is a little long, too. I'm not quite clear as to what the 200-character count is supposed to entail, if it actually includes the ellipsis and the question mark, or what, but with them all, you're at 206 and even without them all, you're at 201. Shorter is better; punchy, like a good advertising headline. You've got a lot of information in there, some of which may not actually draw readers. How about these two alternate hooks? The first one comes to 194, even with the ellipsis and question mark. I personally like ALT2 and think the longer hooks drown your potential readers with too much info. Stick to the important details: this building was unique and it didn't survive 30 years. Marrante (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the Großgaststätte Ahornblatt, a concrete, maple leaf-shaped building with a restaurant and shopping arcade for East German government workers, was built in 1973 and demolished in 2000?
ALT2: ... that the Großgaststätte Ahornblatt, a concrete, maple leaf-shaped building was built in 1973 and demolished not thirty years later?
  • Comment: This just came up with me in an article I was/am working on, where there was an "ess-tset" (ß) in a name and I noticed in one source, the ß was replaced by the double-s (a normal German alternative orthography, for anyone reading this who doesn't speak German). Normally, I prefer to use the ess-tset, but I know that it stumps a lot of non-German speakers, who aren't sure how to pronounce it and try to read it as a B. For DYK purposes, should "Großgaststätte" be written as "Grossgaststätte" to aid in pronouncing it? I'm inclined to think it should. I'm not recommending that the title of the actual article be changed, just where it appears in the DYK hook. Marrante (talk) 21:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for your comments and your helpful comments to the article. My expansion of the original translated version left some things to be desired, certainly. But I'd like to propose a slightly different hook, combining yours with another note: ALT3: that the Großgaststätte Ahornblatt, a concrete building in the shape of a maple leaf in former East Berlin, was built in 1973 and demolished in 2000? Drmies (talk) 04:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ennigaldi (Ennigaldi-Nanna), Ennigaldi-Nanna’s museum

Created by User:Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good to go, offline hook accepted in good faith. Its quite something though to claim the first museum, you certain?? Can you try though to explain in the intro to the museum where is actually is, near which modern day city and perhaps find the coordinates??♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good question. Answer = yes! The first four references say the first known museum in the world.--Doug Coldwell talk 21:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Coordinates added.--Doug Coldwell talk 21:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


M-64 (Michigan highway)

  • ... that the M-64 highway designation in Michigan was moved twice in two years by exchanging the number with different roads?

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alex W. Bealer

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Recycling in Canada

Indian National Airways Ltd

Time table of Indian National Airways c.1933

Created by AroundTheGlobe (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Lyttle

Created by --Jeanne Boleyn (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 31 March 2011

Date, length OK. Hook sharp and appealing but it does not say what the article or source say; "liked to read" and "traditionally read only..." is not really the same as being "a fan of". Maybe a bit pedantic, but I think a hook should more accurately reflect what is said in the article and source. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right about the hook. An alternative hook: Tommy Lyttle liked to read James Bonds novels is closer to the source.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:05, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, another query. Was he actually the "leader" of the UDA, or was he rather a leading member? If the latter, would you like to offer an ALT1 dealing with both points? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He was actually the leader of the UDA's West Belfast Brigade. Let me propose this:
The over-all commander of the UDA was Andy Tyrie, but local brigadiers like Lyttle are often referred to in the media as "leaders".--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Add link to James Bond (italicised because he's a fictional character)... ? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:14, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
for ALT1. That's fine now. I've tweaked the hook a bit, including italics as suggested.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Fishing industry in Greenland

A fishing vessel in Greenland
  • ... that approximately 6,500 out of a national population of an estimated 56,452 people (2010) in Greenland are employed in the fishing industry (Fishing vessel pictured)?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed :Lumley ChapelDr. Blofeld 12:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 30

Trofeo Alasport

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rhodactis howesii

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 19:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mammotrectus super Bibliam

Edition from 1474 in Strassburg

  • ... that Mammotrectus super Bibliam (pictured), a guide to understanding the Bible, was popular in the 15th century, but it was criticised in the 16th century by humanists and protestants?
ALT1 ... that Mammotrectus super Bibliam (pictured), a guide to understanding the Bible, was popular in the 15th century, but it was criticised in the 16th century?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix (fireboat)

A red fireboat at rest on calm water sends five jets of water into the air

Created by Microfirmware (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 17:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Detlev Glanert

Created by Scarabocchio (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Perito

  • Comment: I have also contributed to the article.

Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by We hope (talk) at 16:00, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the nomination. Half the credit should go to We hope, who has substantially improved the article. I find the proposed hook not very interesting, how about:

ALT1"... that Nick Perito was the closest collaborator of singer Perry Como for 40 years?"  Sandstein  16:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Can we possibly combine both-

ALT2 "... that Nick Perito, who was singer Perry Como's closest collaborator for 40 years, also helped Bob Hope's wife, Dolores, revive her singing career after 60 years?" or is the hook long enough to reach out and snag UFOs? :-) We hope (talk) 16:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Winterling

Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jalpan de Serra

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fessenheim Nuclear Power Plant

Created by Ivolocy (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out... hook for French language sources. However, there is a [citation needed] that should be taken care of first.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Davidka Square

  • ... that the homemade Israeli mortar memorialized in Jerusalem's Davidka Square was totally inaccurate, but it made such a huge noise that it sent the enemy fleeing in panic?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Searle (businessman)

Created by Comte0 (talk), 5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 21:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jacques Cauvin

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook verified, length and age OK - almost ready to go. There are, however, some large sections of text for which it would be good to have some references.Ivolocy (talk) 21:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article is not DYK-ready. There are five references, all used once each and three of which appear at the end of the one-line lede. Most of the article is unreferenced and there is an enormous list of published works by the subject. With such an output, a few highlights are sufficient. In order to be approved for DYK, there must be at least one reference per paragraph. The lede should be a rough description of the article and therefore generally does not contain references, which are instead used in the body of the article, where the real information is detailed.
Also, I think that hook could use some work. It's very long, doesn't seem quite grammatical — "considered the neolithic revolution to have moved into Anatolia" would be better, no? It's currently at 199 characters, which means it's already about maximum length.
You are encouraged to work on the article and add the necessary references. Marrante (talk) 07:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have referenced it better and shortened the hook and bibliography as suggested. Paul Bedson (talk) 01:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure what the standard is for biographies, but I think you should try and reduce the bibliography to his 10-15 most important works. And I would certainly drop all translations.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 02:48, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've reduced the article to books only. Which has totally ruined the page as a unique English reference tool for Cauvin's work. I guess there are powers out there that want the prehistory of the Lebanon to remain hidden (for now). Hopefully it's DYK-able now though. Paul Bedson (talk) 19:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sierra Gorda

  • ... that much of the Sierra Gorda region in Querétaro and Guanajuato in Mexico have been declared biosphere reserves because of their exceptional variety of species and ecosystems, including more species of butterfly than in the U.S. and Canada combined?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Sierra Gorda region in central Mexico has more butterfly species than the U.S. and Canada combined?Thelmadatter (talk) 17:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aspidopleura

Female Aspidopleura

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Franciscan Missions in the Sierra Gorda

Mission in Jalpan

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ashburton River (New Zealand)

The confluence of the South and North branches of the Ashburton River near Ashburton

  • ... that the two branches of New Zealand's Ashburton River flow in parallel less than 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) apart for 20 kilometres (12 mi) before they join?

Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 10:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

oops, I had made a couple of mistakes in referencing and hadn't referenced the actual hook fact. Fixed now, using the map as distance reference. We should also probably use the official river name in the hook:dramatic (talk) 20:54, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the two branches of New Zealand's Ashburton River / Hakatere flow in parallel less than 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) apart for 20 kilometres (12 mi) before they join?

Nasodigitoacoustic syndrome

Created by Rcej (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Born This Way (Glee). -- Rcej (Robert) - talk 08:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Urbanus (album)

Man in black hat and white shirt playing the vibraphone

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St. Florian's Cathedral

St. Florian's Cathedral

  • ... that the 75-metre (246 ft) towers of Warsaw's St. Florian's Cathedral highlight its role as a form of protest against the Russian domination of Poland?

Created/expanded by Leidseplein (talk). Self nom at 06:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added Warsaw and Polish–Russian War (the most relevant page I could locate) link in hook. Ericoides (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I unlinked Polish–Russian War, which is a disambiguation page without any entry which appears relevant. There's no mention of it in the article. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 31

Xenoclea

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Black marsh turtle

An adult black marsh turtle with its head extended and showing the curved shape of its jaws which resemble a smile.

  • ... that in Thailand, the smiling terrapin (Siebenrockiella crassicollis) is believed to contain the souls of people who died while trying to save others from drowning?
  • Comment: My second self nom.

5x expanded by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 09:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


John Charles Polanyi

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Treatise of Love

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Washington Masonic National Memorial

A granite memorial building with a wide base two stories high, columns in front, and a seven story tower topped by a pyramid and light

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Abu Ali Iyad

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

United States Senate election in Oregon, 1990

Created by Esprqii (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date check out. Hook was slightly over 200 characters, but I changed "United States" to "U.S." and "competitor" to "opponent" in order to bring the hook under 200 characters, so the hook is good now. This is good to go for DYK. (Complete tangential sidenote: I wonder why an anti-logging tree sitter was a Republican.) OCNative (talk) 22:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Press Building, Christchurch

Fascade of a four storey building in perpendicular Gothic style in front of a blue sky.

  • Reviewed: King Cross (diff)
  • Comment: Another Category I building that I'm not having much hope for. I was lucky to find such a good photo on Flickr where the author was happy to change the licence to be compatible with Wikipedia's requirements.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Lorenzo Tañada III

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Peter ad Vincula, Colemore

A mainly flint church with red tied roofs and a bellcote with a spirelet

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Natural Bridges National Monument Solar Power System

Natural Bridges Solar Power System solar cells

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sultanhisar (torpedo boat)

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook checks out, but the first paragraph in the "Task", the "Aftermath" and perhaps even the "Namesakes" sections have to be cited. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:50, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added requested reflinks. CeeGee (talk) 09:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
this should be OK. BTW, I see that the article had been moved, so the admin that'll add this to the queue must take note of that. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 16:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

King Cross

  • ... that a stained glass window in St. Paul's church King Cross, Halifax built in 1911, is dedicated in memory of Edward Wainhouse, whose daughter married the first vicar of the prior church built in 1846?

5x expanded by Richard Harvey (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. The title of the article must be in bold. The article title is not in bold.
  2. The first sentence should end with a question mark. No questin mark at the end.
  3. The hook itself should be concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces). There are 372 chars.
Please re-edit the hook first.
Re-edited as requested. Richard Harvey (talk) 21:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, this is a tricky one. Firstly, I'm assuming that this edit on 25 March is the beginning of your expansion. If that is so, then you should have nominated this under that date, i.e. the beginning of the expansion. This is not just some little ridiculous rule, but it enables the reviewer to work out the prose size at the beginning of the expansion. As it stands, I have to guess what your intentions are.
Assuming I've got it right, the next issue is what the prose size was at the beginning of the expansion. If I use the prose size tool, it doesn't count lists, and one of the paragraphs had a bullet. There's no reason why it should have that bullet, as it's a single item only. I have thus removed the single bullet from the finished article and counted the prose prior to your expansion including the bulleted paragraph. So, on 23 March, there was a prose size of 441B plus 327B. in the bulleted paragraph, coming to a total of 768B. Currently, the article has 3107B (after the removal of the bullet). Hence, you have expanded the article by a factor of 4.0, and it's thus too short.
I further note, and here it gets really complicated, is that you significantly reduced the article length on 23 March. Before this, we had a prose length of 1128B (again based on the rationale that the bullet point shouldn't have been there). I can accept your rationale for doing so and am thus willing to take the shorter length on 25 March as the base for the article length before expansion. So as it stands, please expand the article further to meet the factor of 5. Schwede66 23:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ditsworthy Warren House

Ditsworthy Warren House in 2004

Created/expanded by Stronach (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Lumley Chapel

Part of a stone and brick chapel with a red tiled roof seen from an angle

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date length and hook approved. Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


French ship Censeur (1782)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length fine, AGF on offline ref for hook. Article showing as created on 30th for me, but that may be due to time difference and it may well be the 31st where Benea lives. Mjroots (talk) 04:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Emilio Changco

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, checkout, but there is a minor question regarding hook text. Interesting article, well done. Article appears to be created on April 1st and not March 31st, but it is probably a matter of time zone difference. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 05:15, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is book used as ref, There is question of Manila vs. Manila Bay and also the book does not say till arrest rather during 80s and 90s, so I want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission:
It should be 1980s and 90s rather than just 80s and 90s, as per WP:MOSDATE#Precise language. Reading it at first glance my first thought was someone of the Golden Age of Piracy, and that it could be the 1690s. Benea (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 1

Wildlife of Benin

  • ... that Riparian forests in Benin contain some ⅓ of the estimated 3000 flora species in Benin?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Sunset Esplanade

Sunset Esplanade

Parking lot and stores at a shopping center

Created/expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 05:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook verified.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hospital Borda

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Decuriasuchus

Created by Rnnsh (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 01:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Authenticity in art

  • ... that a performer's authenticity in art may involve conforming to the composer's intention or ignoring it?

5x expanded by Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Aymatth2 (talk) at 00:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Uncle G contributed to the article, dug up sources and inspired the expansion, which was undertaken following Uncle G's style of using subject experts, harvardization and so on. The expansion is therefore an authentic work of Uncle G, although executed by another editor. See the article itself for an explanation of how this is possible. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 15:43, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tal Brody

  • Reviewed: Phoenix (fireboat)

5x increase by --Epeefleche (talk) 21:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expansion, date, and hook all check out. Slight problem, which removing the image solves, is that although the image is a Commons image, I suspect it should not be as such. The problem is a common one, in that apparently Mr. Brody has given permission for someone to use the picture, which he probably had in his possession. But physical possession does not confer a copyright to anyone. Here, I would need a bit of an explanation as to how he could both hold the copyright and be the subject of the image. I doubt he was using a timer on a camera. Or to sum it up, Mr. Brody likely did not own the copyright, thus he could not give permission. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tx for approval of the article/date/hook. The image: 1) it has been used by many media over the years in a manner consistent with it being freely available, and 2) if we AGF, Brody had authority, whether it is a photo Brody had taken of himself with his camera, or one which was given to him w/the copyright. We can hopefully by the time this moves to the top of this page sort it out at commons, as you suggest, or perhaps encourage a response from him through his website or facebook page for further first-hand clarification (and perhaps other photos -- his website has some good ones).--Epeefleche (talk) 08:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ruislip Manor

5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook o.k., but not yet a 5x expansion. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is up from 170 characters to 1622 when links, the infobox and references are removed. Harrison49 (talk) 14:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are right - it is 5x expanded. Something is wrong with the DYK check tool. It shows the version before expansion started as 148 characters, size now as 1612 characters, but says it has not been expanded 5x. This may be caused by old versions that contained garbage content, since removed, such as this version. Good to go. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three Fishers

  • ... that in the late 1800s when Antoinette Sterling sang the English folk song "Three Fishers" she made the first verse "quite bright" so as not to give away the unhappy ending?

Created by MrFizyx (talk). Self nom at 16:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sequoiadendron chaneyi

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Harrellson

A man in his twenties with dark hair wearing a white warm-up jacket with the letters UK in blue on the left shoulder and a blue Nike "swoosh" on the right shoulder

Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mollie's Nipple

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fun and amusing! length and references check out. I added a "the" to the hook before USGS to make it flow better.--Kevmin § 17:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How about linking the DYK article to the "Molly" or "nipples" (should this be spelled "Mollie"), rather than the somewhat counter-intuitive USGS? Something like "... that the US Geological Survey has named at least eight of Mollie's Nipples in Utah? Canada Hky (talk) 00:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The spelling differs from source to source, so I am not sure which one to use. About linking to Mollie's Nipple, well, yes, but IMO the hook will be more mysterious, if it is linked to nipples or is not linked to anything. I removed the link to nipples. It is even better without it. In any case I'll leave it to an admin, who is going to move the hook to prep area to decide which one to use. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My thinking was - if I see a link for the USGS - meh. Mollie's Nipples, on the other hand - I'm probably going to click on. With it buried in the USGS link, you don't notice it until you mouse over. Just a thought.  :) Canada Hky (talk) 03:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Fleet Marston

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Deadstick


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:14, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Revieved St Mary's Church, Fleet Marston

The Egyptian Halls

The Egyptian Halls frontage on Union Street.

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


House of Taga (Mariana Islands), Rota Latte Stone Quarry (Mariana Islands)

Erect pillar at House of Taga

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Stephen McKeag

Created by Keresaspa (talk). Nominated by Jeanne boleyn (talk) at 09:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length ok, but there's no ref attached to the hook quoted above.yorkshiresky (talk) 12:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked the creator to provide a ref which says McKeag sang the song. I have located a ref, but it says he shouted the song after the killing. I am waiting for Keresaspa's reply.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The creator has since provided me with a ref which says McKeag sang the song. I've added it to the article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Swakeleys House

View of the western side of Swakeleys House

Created by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 23:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Museum of Lebanese Prehistory

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 2

Laser Clay Shooting System

5x expanded by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tasmanian Pygmy Possum

5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Brevivulva

the only known Brevivulva electroma specimen

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Lincoln Thornton Manuscript

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Russian police reform

  • ... that under the ongoing Russian police reform, the name of Russia's law enforcers was changed from "militia" to "police" on 1 March 2011?

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Monte do Gozo

A path on green grass on a rise with white clouds and blue sky behind and a modern-looking sculpture in the background with some people next to it

  • ... that Monte do Gozo (pictured), a hill in Spain, is most known for its view of a sight below, a view that is now largely obscured?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Church of St Mary the Virgin, Fordwich

A shingled broach spire on a flint tower

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 18:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and hook seem fine. A well written article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George M. Willing

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gyanvapi Mosque

Created by Lordofallhearts (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 13:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've got some doubts about the article's weighting – there is more about than original temple and its destruction than the current mosque, and the picture of the new temple is bigger than the picture of the mosque. The article still needs a good copyedit for MoS conformance, and the references formatting could be improved. But the article creation and length and hook length check out, and it's an interesting and important subject, so I guess it's a borderline okay. I've tweaked the hook for proper grammar. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hamburger Feuerkasse

  • ... that Hamburger Feuerkasse was the first official fire insurance company established in the world?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Orno

  • ... that mathematician Peter Orno of Ohio State University is a pseudonym, whose abbreviation "P. Orno" suggests his creator's literary interest?

Created by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm--nice article, but I have some problems. First of all, the sourcing pretty much depends on two sentences in this, and a mention of unpublished results in a nonline "Not available online" source. Second, it is rather short--less than 1,500 characters, not taking into account the "publications" section. Drmies (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that "P. Orno" suggests "Porno=pornography", that Robert R. Phelps is one of the world's most reputable sources on the tribe of functional analysts! ;)
I updated the reference(s) with a Google Books url to the page in Pietsch, and an in-line reference to Phelps's article. I don't understand your reference to a not-on-line source, but I appreciate your spelling out "nonline". (I had thought that all sources were available on line, at least with Google books.)
I paraphrased the statement of Orno's first two papers, using the synopsis from Mathematical Reviews, which is implicitly cited. This should push the article over the border, even if one discounts the selected papers bibliography!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 20:06, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Rainwater

  • ... that mathematician John Rainwater had a five-decade career at the University of Washington even after his plagiarism and planting of an explosive boobytrap as a graduate student?
  • Comment: John Rainwater is the pseudonym for a fictional mathematician, in whose name other mathematicians publish papers. I nominated this hook for next year's April Fool's Day DYK. (Plagiarism: other students submitted homework on his behalf; explosive device: an exploding pen with his name was left for the professor to pick up.)
  • Reviewed: Max Weber Sr. ([32])

Created by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 08:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Hiki

Created by 12george1 (talk). Self nom at 16:35, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

  • ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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