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The '''Roman census in the Holy Bible''' refers to the event from the [[Gospel of Luke]], to explain how [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] was born in [[Bethlehem]], to fulfill the prophesy in [[Micah]] 5:2 that the [[Messiah]] would be born in that town. |
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'''The Meatmen''' were a [[Michigan]], [[USA]] [[punk rock|punk]] band headed by [[Tesco Vee]] from [[1980 in music|1980]] to [[1995 in music|1995]]. Very crude and funny, The Meatmen made fun of the "hardcore scene" of the early 80s but really typified the best of the punk scene of the era. |
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Luke 2:1 describes a worldwide census ordered by [[Caesar Augustus]] whilst Quirinius was governor of Syria. However, Quirinius was governor of Syria only from 6 CE onwards, something that cannot be reconciled with [[Gospel of Matthew|Matthew]] and Luke's claim that Jesus was born during the reign of [[Herod the Great]] (Luke 1:5). According to ancient records Quirinius did conduct a census of Judea, although not of Galilee, in around 6-7 CE. This census provoked such a reaction from Jews in Judea that Quirinius had to put it down by miltary force.<ref>Josephus, ''War'', 2,117f; 7,253; ''Antiquities'' 17,355; 18.1ff</ref> |
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The band was known for their stage antics, and for songs with such colorful titles as "What's This Shit Called Love?," "Lesbian Death Dirge," "I Sin For A Living," "1 Down, 3 To Go" (a reference to the murder of former [[Beatles]] member and famous artist [[John Lennon]]) and the so-called "Suck Trilogy" of "Crippled Children Suck," "French People Suck," and "Camel Jockeys Suck." |
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Further historical difficulties are evident in the details of the census as portrayed by Luke. It would not be usual for every single person to travel to his or her home town, nor would children or women (especially heavily pregnant women) be required to appear before census officials. Luke's use of the census may well be a theological and narrative device in order to explain how and why Jesus came to be born in David's city. |
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==Discography== |
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*1981 ''[[Demo Tape]]'' |
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*1982 ''[[Blüd Sausage]]'' |
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*1982 ''[[Crippled Children Suck]]'' |
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*1983 ''[[We're the Meatmen...and You Suck!!]]'' |
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*1985 ''[[War of the Superbikes]]'' |
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*1986 ''[[Rock `N' Roll Juggernaut]]'' |
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*1988 ''[[We're the Meatmen...And You Still Suck!!! (Live)]]'' |
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*1994 ''[[Toilet Slave]]'' |
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*1995 ''[[Pope on a Rope]]'' |
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*1996 ''[[War of the Superbikes, Vol. 2]]'' |
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*1997 ''[[Evil in a League With Satan]]'' |
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==References== |
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*[http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:7c831v0jzzca~T0 Allmusic] |
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==Further reading== |
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* [http://www.geocities.com/meatking2000/~TO Unofficial Meatmen Page] (dead link, 2/25/06) |
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*F.X. Steinmetzer, ''Census'', RAC 2 (1954), p969-972 |
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*R.E. Brown, ''The Birth of the Messiah'', New York, 1977 |
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[[Category:American musical groups|Meatman, The]] |
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Revision as of 21:04, 19 March 2006
The Roman census in the Holy Bible refers to the event from the Gospel of Luke, to explain how Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem, to fulfill the prophesy in Micah 5:2 that the Messiah would be born in that town.
Luke 2:1 describes a worldwide census ordered by Caesar Augustus whilst Quirinius was governor of Syria. However, Quirinius was governor of Syria only from 6 CE onwards, something that cannot be reconciled with Matthew and Luke's claim that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the Great (Luke 1:5). According to ancient records Quirinius did conduct a census of Judea, although not of Galilee, in around 6-7 CE. This census provoked such a reaction from Jews in Judea that Quirinius had to put it down by miltary force.[1]
Further historical difficulties are evident in the details of the census as portrayed by Luke. It would not be usual for every single person to travel to his or her home town, nor would children or women (especially heavily pregnant women) be required to appear before census officials. Luke's use of the census may well be a theological and narrative device in order to explain how and why Jesus came to be born in David's city.
References
- ^ Josephus, War, 2,117f; 7,253; Antiquities 17,355; 18.1ff
Further reading
- F.X. Steinmetzer, Census, RAC 2 (1954), p969-972
- R.E. Brown, The Birth of the Messiah, New York, 1977