Wikipedia:Requests for adminship: Difference between revisions

This page is where the Wikipedia community considers requests made for a Wikipedian to become an administrator. In addition to requests for adminship, the page is also used for requests to become a bureaucrat. (If you came to this page using the shortcut WP:RFA and were looking for Wikipedia:requests for arbitration, please use the shortcut WP:RFAr instead.)

Admins, also sometimes called sysops, are users with access to a few technical features that help with Wikipedia maintenance. See Wikipedia:Administrators for a more detailed discussion of what this entails. The administrators' reading list is a good preparation before you become an admin. Consider reading this before applying for adminship. New sysops can learn how to use the added features at the Administrators' how-to guide.

Bureaucrats are simply users with the ability to make other people admins or bureaucrats, based on community decisions reached here. For lists of users who currently have these abilities, see Wikipedia:List of administrators and Wikipedia:Bureaucrats.

Procedures and guidelines

A user may be nominated to become an administrator by someone else, or the user may make the request personally. The nomination is posted on this page for 7 calendar days measured from the time of nomination. During this period, members of the community may comment on the nomination and vote to support or oppose it. At the end of the 7-day period, if there is general community support for the nomination, a bureaucrat will make the nominee an admin and record this fact at Wikipedia:Recently created admins. The process for bureaucrats is similar, but is generally by request only; new bureaucrats are recorded at Wikipedia:Recently created bureaucrats.

Nomination. Many users become administrators by being nominated by another user. If you wish to nominate someone, get permission from them first. Along with the nomination, please give some reasons as to why you think this person would make a good administrator. (The nominator may also vote to support the nomination.)

Self-nomination. If you wish to become an administrator, you can ask someone to nominate you, or you can make the request yourself. Be aware that some people scrutinize self-nominations more closely, because they don't already have a community member vouching for them; as a result, you may want to wait until you are sure that you exceed the usual guidelines.

Anonymous users. Anonymous users cannot be nominated, nominate others, or support or oppose nominations. The absolute minimum requirement to be involved with adminship matters is to have a username in the system.

Qualifications for adminship

Current Wikipedia policy is to grant administrator status to anyone who has been an active Wikipedia contributor for a while and is generally a known and trusted member of the community. Most users seem to agree that the more administrators there are the better.

Administrators have no special authority when interacting with other users, but because they have additional abilities, other people will generally expect them to be courteous and exercise good judgment. Wikipedians are more likely to support candidates with enough experience to evaluate these qualities and determine whether the candidate is familiar with Wikipedia policies. Many people consider the length of time a user has been contributing, as well as the number and quality of contributions.

There are no definite requirements on this, but most users seem to expect three to four months of participation and 500-1000 edits before they will seriously consider a nomination. Some users apply higher or lower requirements on a personal basis, which they are entitled to do in voting on this page.

Unsupported nominations

In some cases, a candidate will have general support but a smaller group opposing the nomination, and it may be unclear whether a consensus exists to grant adminship. If the bureaucrats are uncertain about whether there is a consensus in a particular case, they may suggest that the vote continue beyond seven days, thus giving more time to see if a consensus will develop.

If your nomination fails, it is not necessarily a permanent rejection — the community may just be suggesting that you "try again later." However, please wait a reasonable period of time before renewing a request, and make good use of the time to gain additional experience.

If a candidate is obviously unqualified (for example, has been participating for one month and made fewer than 100 edits), the nomination may be removed before the seven-day period is over. Similarly, if the candidate was rejected very recently or the voting makes it obvious that the nomination has no chance of success, it may be removed before voting is complete. Past experience has shown that continuing the discussion in these cases only fosters ill feelings, and makes it more difficult if the nominee seeks adminship later.

Note: You can see a list of past unsuccessful nominations at Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins#Unsupported_applications.

Current nominations

Note: Nominations have to be accepted by the user in question. If you nominate a user, please also leave a message on their talk page and ask them to reply here if they accept the nomination.

Please place new nominations at the top.

Current time is 10:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

User:DropDeadGorgias (4/0/0) Ends 19:41, 4 August 2004 (UTC)

DropDeadGorgias has over 1600 edits since 5 Mar 2003 (with increased activity from February of 2004), has shown interest in issues like featured articles and deletions, and would benefit from having admin abilities. In my opinion, this user shows good judgment and an even temperament, and would make a fine administrator. --Michael Snow 19:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I accept. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:04, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. I know I'm not the first to say this, but I love the username. --Michael Snow 19:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Hear, hear -- both to the compliment on the username and Michael's assessment of DDG's suitability. :-) Strong support. Jwrosenzweig 19:48, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Finally someone I'm familiar with to vote for. An excellent choice. BCorr|Брайен 19:50, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. <cliche>He/she is not already an admin?!?!?!?!?!?!</cliche> Seriously, this is a big surprise to me! Strong support. blankfaze | (беседа!) 20:02, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comments

User:Kim Bruning (2/1/0) end 19:36, 4 August 2004 (UTC)

I would like to nominate Kim Bruning for administrator -- in my experience working with Kim on and off for the last several months, he has been the model of care, patience, and positive attitude we need so desperately as administrators. His careful work with WHEELER is an excellent example of his ability to interact productively and reasonably with an editor who has driven a number of admins (myself included) into dialogue that cannot be classified as entirely civil. I hope, in fact, to learn something from his ability to work with editors I find frustrating. I have spent several months waiting for Kim to accept that he is worthy of the nomination and allow me to nominate him, which only assures me that he's right for the job -- I think a reluctance to accept a position of increased authority is an excellent indication that someone is unlikely to abuse that position. I hope you will find him as worthy a candidate as I do. Jwrosenzweig 19:36, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

P.S. Kim has been here since February 24, 2004, and has 1,236 edits at the present time. Jwrosenzweig 19:36, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

This user has not yet formally accepted this nomination.

Support:

1. Jwrosenzweig
2. I agree. Mike H 20:02, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Oppose:

1. More edits! (But you are a swell contributor.) blankfaze | (беседа!) 20:05, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Neutral:

Comments:

Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A.

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A.

6. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and will deal with it in the future?

A.

Thanks and good luck!

User:Avala (2/14/2) Ends 23:50, 3 August 2004

They removed this last night, banned my home IP, but i now do it again from work, im a long time conributor not a sockpuppet! I just have to assign edits to IP, so now I again nominate User:Avala, he has been here since mid March, he has made thousands of edits, and he is an administrator on the Serb Wikipedia. Avala is a great contributor and he has writen from scratch many good articles on the Balkans. He is just not liked by fascists, but Avala is a good guy who fights the bad guys. This is why he deserves to be administrator on Wikipedia. Dont let the bad guys win. PeroBG1 23:49, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I am honoured and I accept but I am not sure will I be able to answer future attacks in here because I will be absent from 30th August. I think I did good things in here and that I fought against users who don`t accept No personal attacks policy. I off course expect such users to vote against me. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Note: You can see the list of articles made by me on my User Page. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. Yes PeroBG1 23:49, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Why not support myself. I don`t wana repeat the mistake of some users who vote against themselfes. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Funny. Ambivalenthysteria 10:27, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Premature (perhaps in the future-- see comments below). 172 11:35, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. You seem to be editing in good faith, but sometimes I just don't understand you. This isn't anything personal, but I don't think you're exactly sysop material – yet. Johnleemk | Talk 12:04, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. Avala's limited fluency in English makes him unsuitable as an administrator of the English Wikipedia - as a look at most of the articles created by Avala will show. Furthermore, "User has shown poor judgment" does not begin to scratch the surface here. Snowspinner 13:54, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
5. Probably not a good idea right now. Also, are you allowed to vote for yourself? - Nat Krause 14:05, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
6. While I believe Avala could be a devoted and valuable contributor, based on the past few days here on RfA alone, I don't think he's ready to be a sysop on the English wikipedia. Being a sysop is a lot about diplomacy: Avala has recently rubbed several people the wrong way. This is bad timing to try and push for more power. Keep up the contributions, try not to take criticism too personally, and perhaps I'll reconsider my vote for a future nomination. I also think Avala's English is sometimes not precise and not nuanced enough; precision and nuance are important when one is trying to be diplomatic, which I think sysops are often called to be. --Woggly 14:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. This nom should be moved to BJAODL. →Raul654 14:30, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

   I appreciate this very much. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:47, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

8. Request disciplinary action against both nominator and nominee. - Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 17:00, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
9. No. Just no. See the vote for Nikola Smolenski to even begin to understand why I vote the way I do. Mike H 17:03, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
10. Gentgeen 17:09, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
11. Hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no. blankfaze | (беседа!) 17:53, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
12. Tεxτurε 18:04, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC) - I don't believe that any nomination as the first edit of a user is valid. Whether this nomination is from an anon IP or the first edit of a user it smacks of sock-puppet.
13. Since Avala insists on reinstating this nomination, even though the policy on this page allows it to be removed, I will have to oppose instead, on the grounds of seriously poor judgment. Fighting the community is not a good way to become an admin, and neither is using a sockpuppet to nominate yourself. --Michael Snow 18:09, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
14. A look through Avala's comments (here and elsewhere) reveals him/her to be reactionary and lacking the necessary restraint. Quadell (talk) 19:58, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Neutral

1. What. --Merovingian✍Talk 11:30, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
2. Acegikmo1 14:11, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC). I am going to remain neutral while I investigate Avala's contributions. I note that PeroBG1 is almost assuredly somebody's sockpuppet, as his/her first contribution was to RFA, and I find the explanation offered above unsatisfactory.

Comments

1. Avala's contributions are not always NPOV, and it's obvious that English isn't his first language. However, he has made a number of viable contributions. Moreover, he can work well with users willing to look beyond his non-Western take on things. He accepted, e.g., my NPOVing of his contributions to Fidel Castro [1] From what I've seen, he's reasonable, aware of his limitations, and thus not in same league as other POV users belonging to "the red faction" or Sam Spade's clique [various other cliques], who typically run to lodge bogus complaints on the conflict resolution pages whenever someone fixes or challenges their work.) 172 11:30, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Just for the record-I was not involved in that Fidel article, but supported 172 version on IRC. And I am not anti-west at all. Just judge what is bad. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:47, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

2. I'm not sure why L. Paul Bremer should be removed as a featured article, let alone a stub, but that's what Avala called it. I'm sure he/she will be some day – any user who edits in good faith is excellent potential for becoming an admin, but for now, I must oppose. Maybe in a few months. By the way, isn't it fishy that a blocked user nominates Avala? Oh, well. Probably a misunderstanding. Johnleemk | Talk 12:04, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I never called that article a stub. Maybe it sounded so but I wanted to point it is stub asm much as it is supposed to be featured. I just think it is too short.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:47, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

3. Addendum: Just realised Avala's the one who won't count Patton's vote against Nikola for adminship (wonder who gave him authority to count...never mind that), as well as the one who opposed Snowspinner's adminship solely because of Patton's support for him and that Snowspinner wouldn't ignore Patton's vote (but then again, Snowspinner doesn't count the votes, does he?). No offense, Avala, but I think you need some time to understand Wikipedia's workings. Sorry. Johnleemk | Talk 12:09, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Of course his vote is counted but not morally because of his Personal Attacks we all know about.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:47, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

User:Robin Patterson (8/1/0) Ends 03:45 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I nominate Robin Patterson for adminship. I know that his 605 edits since January 30 are at the lower end of Wikipedians' tolerance range, but from my own dealings with him I know that he strives for quality over quantity. I hope that all will take note of the high standard of his work, and elect him to a position to which he is well suited. David Cannon 01:57, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• Thank you for the votes of confidence, David and others. I may not actually DO anything with the position (seeing my main "responsibility" as a continuation of being the major operator as a sysop on Wikipedia Maori over the last few months), but one never knows. Kia ora! Robin Patterson 03:45, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. David Cannon 01:57, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC).
2. Lst27 02:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Good edits indeed. GeneralPatton 02:32, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. Neutrality 03:54, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
5. Absolutely older≠wiser 04:15, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
6. Ambivalenthysteria 05:15, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. Merovingian✍Talk 11:31, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
8. Seems like a thoughtful, balanced contributer to me. Quadell (talk) 18:10, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Sorry, seems like a genuine and good contributor, but far too few edits for me. blankfaze | (беседа!) 17:54, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Yes, some of it more than once, a few months ago.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. Slightly, and yes, but see my main reply above.

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. Anything requested, but no guarantee of noticing anything urgently, because my visits are relatively rare and short compared with those of some contributors. My New Zealand timezone may be an advantage.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most successfully and helpfully to?

A. I don't recall anything outstanding; but my village, Plimmerton, and city, Porirua, have substantial contributions, with more to come if I get time and can avoid more distant distractions such as Tom Lehrer and Colonization (game). There was also the list of trees that I added after creating it for the Maori version. Robin Patterson 06:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. Wikipedia Maori (see main response above) and the welcoming of newcomers. Robin Patterson 06:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

6a. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret?

A. None of the world's estimated 130,000 Maori language speakers has yet shown his or her hand in any significant way (except in the English Wikipedia).

6b. What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. Found WP years ago... Robin Patterson 06:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks and good luck! -- Cecropia | Talk 05:19, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

User:Nikola Smolenski (4/13/7) Ends 15:08, 3 August 2004

I would like to nominate User:Nikola Smolenski for an admin. He has been the member of the Wikipedia since 18th May 2003, had impressive 3500 edits and wrote 150 new articles. He has uploaded couple of dozens of pictures. Nikola promoted Wikipedia project in Serbia and Bosnia and you can see his speech at IT convention in Bijeljina in 2003 here. He made couple of patches for MediaWiki. His edits are mostly about themes concerning Serbia and the Balkans. He was fighting vandalism strongly since the beginning. He is also administrator and bureaucrat on Serbian wiki, and is one of the best examples of the work from that encyclopedia. I think he deserved to become an admin long time ago, but it`s never too late. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 15:08, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. Support off course [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 15:08, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. I will forgive for the edit war; he lives in Serbia! --Merovingian✍Talk 17:19, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

   I call this-common sense :). He was in edit war but about Serbian province. Of course he knew much more than other users.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 17:22, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

3. Everyking 20:50, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. Lst27 02:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Snowspinner 16:47, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) Dori's comments below, combined with quality of judgment usually showed by nominator makes me exceedingly wary. Snowspinner 16:47, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
2. Oppose, based solely on the fact that I don't like the nominator. (Avala should understand this one!) blankfaze | (беседа!) 16:48, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I am really happy that you don`t like me. Miserable people don`t actually deserve my comments. I am happy to see that I did a right thing when voting against Snowspinner, because it`s nominator blankfaze seems to be the same problem as GeneralpPatton.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:58, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Pardon me, I'm really reaching to try to make sense out of this one... but you did change a vote from neutral to oppose because you didn't want to be on the same list as Patton. Never mind that, when you were voting neutral, you were already not on the same list as Patton. I think frustration and puzzlement at you is pretty fair. Snowspinner 17:12, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

   Sorry , but I said I will vote for you if you give up of his support. You told me he didn`t support you and then I saw his vote. All this made me vote against.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 17:15, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I told you I didn't support his personal attacks against you. It's hardly my fault whether he supports me or not. Nor am I quite sure how to give up his support. It's his vote, not mine, and he's free to cast it wherever he pleases. Snowspinner 17:28, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

3. I am really not liking this situation. I'm sorry. Oppose. Mike H 16:54, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

   As I can see some users wanted that whole article should be referred to as Kosovo only not Kosovo and Metohija, also some claimed ,as I have seen, that Kosovo is not in Serbia. Of course Nikola had a reaction to thos wrong statements. He was maybe harsh, but I am sure that user from Serbia knows much more than a user from Colombia about Kosovo.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:58, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Possibly. Still, I'm opposing for now. Mike H 17:13, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

   Hope that you will realise and vote for him.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 17:33, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   If I do change my vote, I will do it in my own due time; I resent having people petition for my vote. It is my own. Mike H 17:40, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

4. He's made some good contributions, and I hope he continues to work as an editor. Unfortunately, I think his strong feelings on the topic of Kosovo may hurt his ability to use his admin priveleges wisely. moink 17:37, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
5. Oppose. Is this a joke? I have no confidence at all that this user would not misuse admin privileges. Ambivalenthysteria 19:38, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I would be first to vote him desysoped but I can assure that that will never happen. He has the face we can trust to. :) [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 20:02, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   It's not his face I'm worried about. It's his actions. IMHO, this is the most absurd nomination since User:Plato. Ambivalenthysteria 20:07, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   . Ambi did you go on IT coventions to hold speeches about Wikipedia? Ever? I think that such action of his shouldn`t worry you. Plus that Plato guy is not even similar with Nikola.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 20:21, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Not exactly an IT conference, but a meeting organized by a Serb library focusing on how to present the Serb "cause" online.--GeneralPatton 22:35, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Just as illustration of the extent of GP's lies, I have translated titles of all the works presented at the conference and attached it to the bottom. There are people here who are not Serbs but know Serbian and can confirm this. Nikola 08:05, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Nikola, I see you are name calling, once again, but as i've said, the list precisely shows that the event was about presenting the Serb view of things online. There is no need for you or Avala to be over-reacting like this. I presume you are Orthodox, so do you know what your Patriarch Pavle said the other day? “There ought to be more peace and tolerance”, you and Avala should take note to that and stop seeing me as some kind of an enemy just because im a Croat. To be an administrator you need to be less emotional, less biased and more cooler-headed. GeneralPatton 09:11, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   The whole Project Rastko thing is pretty much about presenting Serb view of Balkans History, and it’s ok, everyone has every right to their own opinion, and the right to spin or interpret stuff their own way, but here at wiki, we try to do it differently, we try to have a neutral point-of-view, not advocating any side. You are probably surprised to hear this from me, but I don’t think you are that bad of a contributor at all, some of your non-controversial stuff is really decent, it’s just that you tend to be biased and with an agenda. Now, that is not a problem when you are just a contributor, since other users will argue until the NPOV is reached, but it is definitely not good to have really biased administrator. That is why I personally would never accept being an admin, I am biased, I admit it, but so are you, and the truth is somewhere in between. You need to understand that and learn to accept other people’s opinion and agree to common consensus, and not just vilify and demonize everyone who doesn’t agree with you. GeneralPatton 09:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   GenralPatton are you sure you know what are you talking about? I mean you called me a cunt and reverted everything!!! How can you sat something like not just vilify and demonize everyone who doesn’t agree with you when you are doing that? Also how dare you to call for tolerance when you always call me :YOU SERB! I think that such calling shows that you have some problem with Serbian people, not me with Croatian. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 09:52, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Ahem ? I think this may be bothering to the non-initiated, but Rastko project is a mixture of valuable (say, 30%) presentation of Serbian culture and virulent lies expressed in obsolete books and articles, used in particular against Croats and Bosniaks (and Albanians). It falsifies general history of Bosnia, it lies about the standard languages Croatian and Serbian (e-books by infamous linguists like Branislav Brboric), it falsifies the demographics of Kosovo (for instance, it avoids the facz that in 1931. census Albanians constituted more than 60% of Kosovo populace), it propagates serbdom in: Montenegro, Bosnia and parts of Croatia like Dalmatia (not bad per se, but it falsifies everything by claiming the state of these lands were/are ethnically Serb); it gives false info on virtually all aspects of Croatian culture-from scripts to the architecture and tries to present them as parts of Serbian heritage (in Miroslav Pantic's disgraced articles); it intends, as a new project, to put on the Web a chauvinist-looney book by Sima Lukin Lazic (who claimed that Jesus was a Serb and half of Roman emperors; also, that Serbs waged the Trojan war). This site has not presented one text of any critical Serbian scholar that had dealt with examination of Serbian propagandist myths (for instance, Miodrag Popovic in the debate on Dubrovnik in 1967. that costed him academic position, Djura Danicic when he opposes classical Serbian linguistic nationalism, Dimitrije Tucovic, Svetozar Pribicevic in his autobiography, ...). We can only see a parade of old (Stanoje Stanojevic, Vasa Glusac,..) and new Serbian nationalist propaganda generally rejected by the world (Djordje Jankovic, Miroslav Pantic, certain picturesque Jeremija Mitirovic, Dusan Batakovic,..). So much for Rastko: good e-books by Serbian classical writers (Laza Lazarevic, Bora Stankovic, Petar Kocic,.., but overwhelmingly dated propaganda. Mir Harven 12:13, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   And, yes, that's what I had in mind: classic example of manipulation with figures. It boils down that Albanians were ca. 60% majority in Kosovo in 1921. and 1931. censa (despite efforts to cleanse them). However, the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Kosovo_and_Metohia gives false figure for 1921. and the muddle for 1931.- while even pro-Serbian propaganda page at http://www.agitprop.org.au/stopnato/19990922borba.htm was more "honest": "..Under the 1931 census, Serbs accounted for 151,000 of the province’s 552,000-strong population, while ethnic Albanians accounted for 332,000.". Now-if this isnt a distortion of the facts the nominee had administered- I dont know what it is ? Mir Harven 20:26, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

6. Most definitely not. RickK 20:34, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
7. Hilarious.--Neutrality 21:40, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
8. User Nikola is a Serb nationalist hard-liner who along with his friends Avala and Igor is promoting a Serb radical POV through wiki. The nominator, user Avala has been a problem maker for a while Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Avala.--GeneralPatton 22:25, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I don`t count your vote because you have been calling me cunt. Also I saw you were using ZDS Ustasha salutation which crosses every line of normal behavior. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 09:52, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Here you go again, slander, insults half-truths and distortions. Well, you say ZDS is fascist, but you know ZDS as an abbreviation means Zagorska Demokratska Stranka (Zagorje Democratic Party), a moderate, centrist, regional party in Croatia. see for yourself @ zds.hr

   One of your many lies. Of course ZDS is that party also but you admitted using that Za Dom Spremni. And there are no comments about attacks? [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

9. Jerzy(t) 23:34, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC) Oppose, based on general recollection of past behavior, opinions of others with more specific recollections, and tone of the campaign for him.
10. Oppose. This nomination is dumb, too. Cribcage 02:35, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
11. Opposed. Apart from being a Serbian nationalist (IMO, not a disqualification per se), Mr. Smolenski doesnt bother to explicate his views which are Serbocentric to the extreme. Thanks to his "contributions" (not only his), the articles on Kosovo, Greater Serbia, various histories of neighboring countries....are distorted and very flawed in the passages where his handiwork can be detected. So, what could we get with him ? Serbian POV on ramapage. Censorship in favor of Serbian nationalist agenda, and enmity towards Bosniaks, Croats and Albanians as such. Not to mention that SYSOP should (I may be wrong) have a broader view on things, more general knowledge and interests- and, the vital point: more tolerance towards opposing views. No, it wouldnt be a good choice. Mir Harven 11:45, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
12. Gentgeen 17:11, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
13. Rmhermen 19:27, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC) Not at this time.

Neutral

1. Dori | Talk 16:39, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC) (Close to oppose, see comments below)
2. Acegikmo1 16:50, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC). I am going to look into what Dori says below. I may change my vote after that.
3. Jwrosenzweig 16:53, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC) He seems to have done many good things here, but his behavior at Talk:Kosovo was borderline -- certainly it was far more polite than behavior I've seen elsewhere around here, but it wasn't exactly productive. The clincher for me is that Nikola said if the vote concerning naming conventions at Kosovo went against him, he'd just mark all affected pages with a factual dispute marker -- strikes me as a bit too petulant a response, and one that indicates he still work to do in terms of respecting consensus (a key part of being an admin). I am, however, open-minded, and interested to see other reactions -- perhaps I haven't seen enough of Nikola's work recently.
4. I'm sorry, but I'd rather stay neutral for now.Ilyanep (Talk) 15:41, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
5. Chris 73 | Talk 00:44, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC) (See comments below)
6. 172 01:06, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC) At root of Nikola Smolenski's conflicts seems to be a Serb nationalist POV (not bad quality of judgment), which naturally makes him the odd man out in a site dominated by Westerners. Many admins also edit from a strong POV (often from a strong nationalist POV-- I can name names but I won't); the only difference is that their nationality is a bit more prevalent on Wikipedia, and their POV a bit more accepted.
7. Shallot 09:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC). Like Dori, close to oppose, see comments below.

Comments

I would be in the oppose, except that I have personally had some arguments with Nikola. He is a very POV editor. The evidence rests in many pages regarding the Balkans. The most egregious and non-admin-like act that I have seen from him involved him removing my announcements for a vote on the village pump, the RfC page, and the talk page of the article (Kosovo). This was done several times, and he was reverted by a couple of people. He then proceeded to ignore the result of the vote which he claimed was invalid. I can dig for the diffs if someone really feels the need to check for him/herself. Dori | Talk 16:19, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

I don`t know about that article, but maybe you were wrong. Also I have seen myself some situations where the vote is invalid(when voters are not from neutral side).Anyways it is nothing to compare with his great contributions and how well he worked to promote Wikipedia.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:28, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The vote was perfectly valid, well advertised (despite his efforts to cover it up), and voted on by uninvolved users as well. Also, Nikola spends a good deal of time just reverting articles to his POV version. I don't consider him good admin material (or editor for that matter when it comes to certain kinds of articles). Though I won't deny his committment to the Wikipedia project. Dori | Talk 16:31, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

I am not sure, but it is good that he has own POV and it is not a bad thing if it differs from yours. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 16:37, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Please do not remove other people's votes. Dori | Talk 16:39, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

I thought that this was only a comment. Sorry. Avala 16:47, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I will answer to this, when I have more time. Nikola 08:16, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

About Kosovo problem: Nikola was the part of edit war in that article. He is the user from Serbia, and I can say that his knowledge about Kosovo. Some users which argued didn`t see any difference between names Kosovo(short unofficial name), Kosova (local Albanian short name), Kosovo and Metohija. Many other users thought that he was pushing some weird POV but actually he was posting the right info. He was harsh though. As Wikipedia needs complete information, not just easier to write one, he wanted the name K&M to be used. Also some user disputed what is Kosovo and compared Kosovo and Metohija term with Kosova Republic term. First one is officialy used and the second one is proclaimed by separratists. After all I think that dispute is over and that we should all give him a support for his great contributions.[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 17:10, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Me being also part of the Kosovo edit war, I would like to add some comments. I got involved when User:Dori dropped a note on the VP about a vote. After checking, I found that Nikola removed the vote three times ([2], [3], [4]), and unilaterally declared the vote invalid. A move of the page to Kosovo following the vote was reverted two (three?) times by Nikola. He also removed a Wikipedia:Requests for comment three times ([5], [6], [7]) I believe these actions go against proper Administrator behavior.

On his good side, however, I would like to point out that in the following naming dispute he used proper channels, requesting page protections, and listing me (correctly, i have to admit) on Wikipedia:Requests for comment for using admin rollback to revert pages in the edit war ([8]). To my knowledge he did not repeat such blunders as above. Also, I would like to point out that during the entire controversy he always used a polite and proper tone. The worst he called me was anti-serb, after I called him pro-serb. Nevertheless, I have my doubts about Nikola being an administrator. (Vote Neutral above) Chris 73 | Talk 00:44, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Nikola has been making worthy contributions all over the place, and yet he has also been involved in notable problem spots. In the controversial items that I've observed, most recent examples being Bokeljs and Greater Serbia, he has held a position directly opposed to User:GeneralPatton and User:Mir Harven, which is certainly useful for the dialectic nature of Wikipedia editing. However, this has since evolved into slow edit wars which are rather pointless, and he has not been eager to discuss various things in Talk, even less eager than Mir Harven (who generally gets dissed much more because of his emotional writing). I'm not particularly afraid that Nikola would abuse his sysop rights, because Wikipedia likely already has decent mechanisms to deal with such things and he would know better than to cross the line. But I am concerned whether it is a good idea to award people with privileges when they haven't shown a particular ability to handle emotional editing situations. We lowly Wikipedians should be able to rely on admins to be able to handle conflicts gracefully and use their elevated rights for the greater good. In this case, I don't think I could stop myself from second-guessing Nikola's decisions. Sorry! --Shallot 09:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate'

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Now, yes :)

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. I am interested, though I have to say that I am not sure that I won't get bored later ;) My time varies; sometime, I could devote 8 hours per day, and sometime, I might be absent for weeks.

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. I think, VFD; I think that I could help about identifying foreign topics and their notability, and maybe RC; currently, I'm not following RC oftenly, but it might be interesting for me.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A. I think that my best contributions are new articles; I'd like to single out Book of Veles, subject relatively unknown in English world (when you google for it eight of ten hits on the first page are Wikipedia and its clones) and controversial, but I think presented in a NPOV manner and containing AFAIK the only translations of the book's text to English; Serbs, probably the most complete article on an ethnic group; and the short but sweet Ya; outside of the main namespace, Template:Europe and Wikipedia:Language recognition chart. But an already existing article to which I have contributed the best to would probably be Racak incident which seems to be the only non-disputed article about the whole Kosovo conflict; I'm sorry that I don't have time and nerves to contribute in the same way to other articles. I'd also like to mention User:Nikola Smolenski/Cyrillic tables, which is/will be a contribution to a lot of articles.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. I have reverted vandalism, but I can't recall of reverting a stretch of vandalism which was non-nationalist based. Few times I reverted a vandalism that was long-unnoticed. Maybe it could be said that my best contribution could be several removals of copyvio inserted to an article after its creation[9]; it seems that most of the time only copyvio at the creation of articles is noticed.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. I would surely fight Dori's vote in a smarter way.

Thanks and good luck! -- Cecropia | Talk 05:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

---

List of works at the Bijeljina IT convention[10]:

1st part

• Zoran Stefanovic: Values and limitations of Cyrillic in globalisation, on the example of Yugoslavian Internet
• Dr Stanislav Polic: Open Source and Cyrillic
• Marjan Conic: Serbian Orthodox Church on the Internet and localisation of programs
• Milorad Simic, institute for Serbian language of the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts: Programming package RAS [spelling checker for Serbian]
• Nikola Smolenski: Program "Vucko" by Aleksandar Veselinovic - transliterator of HTML pages from Latin to Cyrillic
• Presentation of electronic catalogua and site of the national and university library of RS from Banjaluka
• Evelina Haca, Dusan-Vladislav Pazdjerski University of Gdansk, Poland: Serbian cyrillic on the Gdansk university
• Alaksandar Rakovic: Official state sites and Cyrillic
• Ljubisa Radovanovic: Overview of translated Windows programs
• Dusanka Novakovic and Olivera Mazibrada: Multimedia publication "Bijeljina"

2nd part

• Dragoljub Zbiljic: Activity of Society for protection of Cyrillic and Serbian language in last two years
• Dragoljub Zbiljic: Serbian language and script after Vuk
• Dragoljub Zbiljic: Short today's view of Serbian language and script
• Dragoljub Zbiljic: (Un)solved question of Serbian script in Serbian ortography
• Prof. Dr Nedeljko Bogdanovic, Faculty of Philosophy, Nis: From work of the Board for standardisation of Serbian language
• Mirko Gasovic: Proposal for a law of free access to information of public importance
• Mr Milan Secujski, Prof. Dr Vlado Delic, Darko Pekar and Radovan Obradovic, Faculty of Technical Sciences, Novi Sad: Automatic reading of texts on both scripts of Serbian language. Automatic speech synthesis based on text.
• Aleksandra Turanjanin, Dr Srbislav Bukumirovic, Dragan Turanjanin: Some questions and problems of Old Slavic and modern Cyrillic in multimedia publications
• Nikola Smolenski: Wikipedia in Serbian language and Cyrillic
• Nikola Smolenski: Method for searching and editing of Cyrillic texts in solutions which don't support Cyrillic
• Nikola Smolenski: Program Cyr-Lat for transliteration of Cyrillic texts in Latin [This is actually a wrong title]
• Milutin Atanackovic: Multimedia publications of monasteries of eparchy of Ras and Prizren on Cyrillic

Dejan Skrebic: Presentation of Cyrillic translations of known programs

3rd part

• Ljubisa V. Jovanovic, prof.: Question of the script of Serbian language at the beginning of the third millenium
• Jelena Grmusa, Mathematical faculty, Belgrade: Use of Cyrillic script in the world of global communications
• Nenad Vuckovic, Dragan Turanjanin, Aleksandra Turanjanin: Multimedia chess primer on Serbian language and Cyrillic
• Dr Milos Malis, assistent on the Faculty of Medicine, Belgrade: First Serbian edition of "Atlas of human anatomy: 3D osteology"

User:Lupo (9/0/0) Ends 00:59, 2 August 2004

User:Lupo is an encyclopedia addict and on Wikipedia since 18 Dec 2003. He has 1713 mainspace edits and 2812 edits altogether. He is active in almost all areas of Wikipedia (WP:RCP, WP:CU, WP:FAC, VfD, WP:CP, WP:SD, etc.). He got three of his new articles on Did you know (Frankfurt kitchen, Short-horned Lizard, Amerigo Vespucci), and is currently working on turning Kitchen into a featured article. A calm and reasonable editor in exchanges with other editors. He has been nominated for adminship before on 25 Mar 2004, and the main objection was the lack of experience on Wikipedia. I believe he has now enough experience and would be an excellent admin. -- Chris 73 | Talk 00:59, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thank you, Chris. I am honored and accept this nomination. Lupo 19:23, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. Chris 73 | Talk 00:59, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Neutrality 03:35, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Spectatrix 06:17, 2004 Jul 26 (UTC)
4. "A statement of trust and appreciation." Indeed. Cribcage 06:25, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
5. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:08, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC) Teached one ex-communist resident about copyright-me.Thank you.
6. Warofdreams 12:03, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. Very good at maintenance. --Merovingian✍Talk 13:08, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
8. Gentgeen 17:12, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
9. Seems just what an admin should be. Quadell (talk) 18:33, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comments

Questions for the candidate'

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

Oh yeah. The standard questionnaire. My answering here does not relieve any responsible voter from checking my contributions him- or herself and form his or her own opinion.

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

Answer to (1), (2), and (3): I'm not running for a political office here, and neither am I applying for a job. I accepted the nomination because I'd be willing to expand some of my housekeeping activities a little bit if the community considers me trustworthy enough—getting the "janitor's keys" would allow me to do some of these chores myself instead of having to ask others to do them. I would have declined Chris's offer for a nomination if I wasn't familiar with the relevant reading list.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

See the nomination statement by Chris, or check my selected contributions.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

Nothing spectacular. I'm helping out a little bit here and there.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

Not having checked up on the nominator of my nomination back in March prior to nomination.

Thanks and good luck! -- Cecropia | Talk 05:21, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lupo 12:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

User:Snowspinner (47/4/0) Ends 17:06, 31 July 2004

A good, good, good editor. Had the unfortunate experience of coming through RfA way too early. But he's a good deal more established now. He's eager and energetic and has already delved into chores-type activities. I can't think of a single non-admin Wikipedian right now that would be better suited for adminship. 2629 edits, been registered for 3 months, 6 days. - blankfaze | (беседа!)

I accept. Snowspinner 17:18, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. blankfaze | (беседа!) 17:15, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Cribcage 17:19, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. I thought he already was an admin! Full support, of course. Neutrality 17:20, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. I do believe Snowspinner is a he. Either way, I support. Mike H 17:21, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
5. It's still very early for my tastes (just above my personal minimum) but my interactions with Snowspinner convince me he'll make a fine admin. →Raul654 17:24, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
6. Cyrius|✎ 17:46, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. I said I expected to support after he'd been here 3 months, and ... -- Cecropia | Talk 18:46, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
8. David Gerard 19:51, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) Hell yeah.
9. Support strongly. Arminius 20:45, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
10. -"- --Romanm 20:58, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
11. VV 22:58, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
12. Dpbsmith 23:11, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
13. Most definitely. RickK 23:23, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
14. Starx 23:25, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
15. Couldn't agree more. Ambivalenthysteria 00:39, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
16. theresa knott 00:56, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
17. Dori | Talk 01:22, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
18. James F. (talk) 01:42, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
19. About time. —No-One Jones 01:43, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
20. Hephaestos|§ 01:49, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
21. Yes. An exceedingly worthy Wikipedian. - Mark 01:52, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
22. I supported last time, so I guess I had a good reason for doing so :). anthony (see warning) 02:20, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
23. This guy's okay in my book. - Nat Krause 06:44, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
24. Support -- Chris 73 | Talk 07:19, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
25. Support 172 07:27, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
26. Merovingian✍Talk 09:30, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
27. Spectatrix 18:41, 2004 Jul 25 (UTC)
28. Of course he should be an administrator. He is so nice... Lst27 20:18, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Sarcasm? Acegikmo1 21:11, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

    Of course this is not sarcasm. Snowspinner is a really nice guy... He supported my nomination in June, and when my nomination failed, he posted comments on [11] and asked what I can do to get their support the next time... That is so nice... I am also impressed by his edits... How can anyone not support Snowspinner? --Lst27 02:08, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

29. Acegikmo1 21:11, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
30. older≠wiser 21:52, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
31. --GeneralPatton 21:53, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
32. Rhymeless 22:14, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
33. Definitely. SWAdair | Talk 06:26, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
34. Warofdreams 12:00, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
35. - JCarriker 13:07, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
36. Darn. I wanted to be one of your top 3 supporters. Missed first post, I guess. - Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 13:08, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
37. Michael Snow (no relation) 18:16, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
38. Support, just because I don't want to be in the same group as Avala; fractured logic like that could be contagious. j/k, snowspinner's great. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:47, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
39. What the...you're not an admin yet? Unbelievable! An excellent Wikipedian who carries himself well and makes great edits. Johnleemk | Talk 14:46, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
40. Tεxτurε 17:43, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
41. Ilyanep (Talk) 23:24, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC). Hate to ruin the nice even 40 :D
42. Nunh-huh 23:36, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
43. Love your work. —Stormie 01:14, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
44. Support. I'm sorry I overlooked your nomination earlier, Snowspinner. You have my unqualified support. David Cannon 10:37, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
45. Gentgeen 17:14, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
46. Quadell (talk) 18:39, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
47. MykReeve 19:32, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

1. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:01, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC) - You have support of the GP, who calls other users "cunts", and uses fascist abbrevations. It is outrageous and I can`t get over it. My vote can still turn to yes but not under any condition, I am very sad to vote no because of third party, but I am affraid that users like GP will be able to continue with such behavior. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 10:01, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
   • This very well may be the dumbest, dumbest, dumbest vote I've ever seen on RfA. Vote on the candidate's merit, not that of the people supporting him... blankfaze | (беседа!) 11:51, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
     • I don`t want to be in the same group with such people as GP. And please don`t call my votes - dumb. We have no personal attacks policy in here.Avala 12:14, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
       • Sorry, but that vote is dumb. If you don't want to be in the same group, then just don't vote at all! Voting against someone on account of something they have absolutely no control over and that relates in no way to their potential to be a good admin... makes you look like an 8-year-old. blankfaze | (беседа!) 12:52, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
         • Just utterly baffled here. a) Who is GP? b) What actions, exactly, would you have wished and expected Snowspinner to take? Not taking sides, just puzzled. Dpbsmith 13:07, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
           • To answer your first question, Dpbsmith, I think "GP" means GeneralPatton. --Merovingian✍Talk 13:19, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
           • On b) It looks like you are asking the question to blankfaze but presumably you mean avala. Pcb21| Pete 10:33, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
             • This thing with Avala has been going on for a while, for more see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Avala. -- GeneralPatton 02:46, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
   • I'll second the opinion that your vote is dumb. (A personal attack would be calling you dumb.) It's unfortunate you can't muster the maturity to separate one user's behavior from another's reputation -- but it's not surprising, reviewing your history. Glass houses, pal. Cribcage 18:07, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
   • Well, I, for one, am glad. I think George Washington should be the only American to have the honor of being elected unanimously. Waitamminit, is Snowspinner even American at all? Rats, I should have asked him that before I voted! - Nat Krause 10:24, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   Are you kidding? Oh, yeah, you are. The not funny thing kinda got to me for a minute, there. Mike H 15:16, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

   • I have decided to vote to support the nomination solely because God has not voted in opposition. - Tεxτurε 17:43, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. I oppose solely because people are jumping on Avala for opposing. Who cares? If he feels like opposing, then allow him that privilege. Frankly, I don't care what his reasons are. And anyway, Snowspinner has 40 votes in favor... I do expect people to jump on me for this one as well. And Cribcage -- have you even read the personal attack page? If I were to say, "articles written by Cribcage are dumb", that's obviously a personal attack... or, "every article written by ugen64 is racist"... ugen64 21:40, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
   • If it makes you feel better, I think your vote is just as dumb. Cribcage 02:38, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
     • No, dumber. At least Avala's was (peripherally) related to the current nomination. My discretion as a beaurocrat is to totally ignore both Avala's and this objection, and I recommend any other beaurocrat do the same. If this weren't such a landslide in Snowspinner's favor, I would make frivilous objections like this a serious policy matter. →Raul654 18:47, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
3. Oppose. [personal attack removed by Ambivalenthysteria]. Lirath Q. Pynnor
   • I think Lir should have been banned a long, long time ago -- but for the record, I don't like the idea of censoring others' comments, particularly on a ballot. Cribcage 02:43, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
     • I don't think Ambi was out of line. It was an unsubtle and unequivocal personal attack, and was well justified under Wikipedia:Remove personal attacks. I'd have done it if it were any RFA other than my own. Snowspinner 13:50, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
       • I prefer to leave a link to the diff showing personal attack removal. But that's me. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 17:05, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
         • Here is the link: [12]. I looked at it and thought "is that all?" but it is a direct personal attack and the removal is appropriate. - Tεxτurε 18:11, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

   I think that Ambivalenthysteria should remove, or all personal attacks or none. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 09:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

4. Oppose. sorry snowy maybe next time!--Plato 22:00, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if I care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Yes.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. Yes. Hell, I already do some of those chores. Now I can just speedily delete things myself instead of having to tag them and wait for someone else to do it. :)

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. I watch recent changes for vandal updates and either revert or tag them for speedy deletion. I intend to continue this. I track vandalizing users and report them frequently to ViP. I intend to continue this, and also to monitor ViP for reports that need to be dealt with.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A. At the moment, I'm pretty proud of 2004 Tour de France. I would be proud of Michel Foucault, but I got distracted before I really finished work on it. Oh, and Video game theory is pretty spiffy, though also in need of expansion. (Yes, I confess, I have a bad habit of writing half of an article before flitting off to some other task. But I really like the halves of articles I write!)

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. Wikipedia:What is a troll. It didn't pass, and I'm sympathetic to people who say it needs more work (I intend to put that work in once the vote ends), but I think it's a great start towards a real problem.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. Heteronormativity. I tried to settle a dispute between some users and wound up basically pouring gasoline on the fire, leaving the article still a mess. I should have stayed a bit cooler, and couched my objections in existant Wikipedia policies like verifiability. Big learning experience. Snowspinner 17:27, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks and good luck! -- Snowspinner 17:27, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

There is one condition for my support. Could you give up of support (he supported you earlier) of User:GeneralPatton who called me "cunt", then he said "I will shit on your kings picture" etc. He used abbrevation ZDS of Ustasha movement, the fascist movement. Only thing I ask to give up of him and similar users to show that you are an example of dealing with such users and that you are ready to become an admin. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 20:13, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

For more about Avala and his way of doing things see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Avala.-- GeneralPatton 02:44, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I never requested comment of GeneralPatton attacks, for an example when he called me a cunt. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 09:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I am uninterested in doing favors in return for support, for obvious reasons, however, to make clear, I have never supported personal attacks, and, in fact, actively oppose them, including GeneralPatton's attacks to Avala, as well as Avala's hostile responses. Personal attacks are against Wikipedia policy, and there is no excuse for them. Snowspinner 20:21, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Favor? I just wanted to make things clear. I will be neutral for the next few days to see the situation and then I will decide. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 20:26, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Maybe it's none of my business, but I'm curious since you announced it: What does "to see the situation" mean? Is it basically, "I like to follow the pack -- so if there's a consensus, that's how I'll vote"? Cribcage 06:20, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

For everybody's reference, the previous (failed) RfA can be found at [13]. Snowspinner 22:30, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

User:Andris (14/0/0) Ends 12:55, 29 July 2004

A careful editor, and calm and reasonable in exchanges with other editors. A solid contributor. About 1500 non-minor edits since March 1, 2004. Wile E. Heresiarch 12:55, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I feel honoured and accept. Andris 13:21, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. Wile E. Heresiarch 12:55, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Support. --H. CHENEY 16:56, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Neutrality 21:57, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. Merovingian✍Talk 02:53, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
5. Charles Matthews 02:38, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
6. Cribcage 17:20, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. Lst27 20:20, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
8. Seems to have a sound edit history -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:57, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
9. ditto. --Woggly 09:31, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
10. 172 09:36, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)Excellent work on a number of articles relating to Russia and Eastern Europe in particular
11. Support. Arminius 19:00, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
12. Jerzy(t) 23:59, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC) I seldom work closely with another WP editor, but have briefly w/ Andris; i seldom form impressions other than "bad WP colleague" or "OK", but Andris made an especially good impression on me.
13. GeneralPatton 03:05, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
14. Looks good. Hard-working and equinimanou... equinamio... fair. Quadell (talk) 18:43, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comments

• 2570 contribs overall. blankfaze | (беседа!) 13:40, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Yes, just now, but I found out I knew most of content from other policy pages.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. Yes.

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. I already check recent changes and new pages regularly and I would keep doing that, using the new sysop powers. I might also help with maintaining WP:VFD and Wikipedia:Copyright problems.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A. It's hard for me to pick one of my contributions over the rest. I wrote List of political parties in Latvia and most of articles on individual parties linked from there. I have also contributed to some mathematics and computer science articles. Young tableau is probably my best contribution in that area.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. Two contributions. First, I have categorized about 500 articles, almost all of Category:Latvia and a fair part of Category:Chess. Second, I have fixed about 100 or so Deadend pages and misspelled links.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. No major regrets so far. Andris 14:49, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks and good luck! -- Cecropia | Talk 19:04, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

User:Ed g2s (15/0/0) Ends 03:07, 29 July 2004

Joined in August 2003; a couple of thousand edits, about three quarters of which have been in the mainspace; has contributed quite a few photos, diagrams, &c., as well as general copyediting and so on; even attended the first ever wikimeet. Disclaimer: Personal friend. James F. (talk) 02:22, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Accepts, honoured. Ed g2s 03:32, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. James F. (talk) 02:22, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Neutrality 03:29, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Merovingian✍Talk 06:23, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
4. Yes. Acegikmo1 07:08, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
5. Warofdreams 10:27, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
6. David Gerard 12:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
7. Support. --H. CHENEY 16:56, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
8. Cribcage 17:21, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
9. [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 20:23, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) -Thanks again for picture editing
10. anthony (see warning) 02:22, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
11. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 19:34, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC) Good work in the Cricket page.
12. Lst27 20:20, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
13. Michael Snow 18:15, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
14. 172 09:38, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC) (regarding James F.'s disclaimer, I strongly support the idea of a Clare College, Cambridge cabal on Wikipedia)
15. GeneralPatton 03:03, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
16. I've reviewed many of his edits this month, and he looks like he'd make a good sysop to me. Quadell (talk) 19:08, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comments

• 2037 edits exactly for anyone who is curious. blankfaze | (беседа!) 03:06, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Plus a dozen odd from when I wasn't logged in (User:81.86.146.159) (for the very curious). Ed g2s 03:32, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Yes, a while ago and .... just now.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. Sadly, I have far too much free time at the moment, so yes, see below.

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. My two favourite pages are Random Page and Recent Chagnes, so I come across a lot of vandalism. It would be nice to be able to deal with it myself.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A. Euro 2004, London Underground tube line images, I created the football kit template used on hundreds of football club websites, lots of photos/diagrams/image cleanups, see User:Ed_g2s/Images, far too many edits to random pages, and lots of templates.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. Not hugely into categorisation, yet. Lots of edits to pages that look ugly, creating templates, fixing layouts, using image boxes. Oh, and chasing up image copyright info.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. Not playing with the mediawiki code.

Вопрос 7: Do you promise to always use proper British English, never the corruption that is American English?

Hey! Ya tawkin' tuh me, Limey? Dere's nobuddy else heer but yoo and me. Ya tawkin' tuh me? -- Cecropia | Talk

LMAO. blankfaze | (беседа!)

User:Thue (15/0/0) Ends 22:31, 28 July 2004

About 1000 edits in main namespace since August 2003. A careful editor, and calm and rational in exchanges with other editors. Someone I consider a solid contributor. Wile E. Heresiarch 22:31, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm honored :). I accept the nomination. Thue | talk 23:07, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Support

1. Wile E. Heresiarch 22:31, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
2. Neutrality 22:31, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
3. Rhymeless 04:08, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
4. Merovingian✍Talk 06:24, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
5. Support. --H. CHENEY 16:56, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
6. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 18:45, 2004 Jul 22 (UTC)
7. :-) Mike H 00:34, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
8. Cribcage 17:22, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
9. Woggly 07:39, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
10. Lst27 20:20, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
11. Arminius 21:48, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
12. SWAdair | Talk 06:27, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
13. Michael Snow 18:14, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
14. Diberri | Talk 19:30, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
15. GeneralPatton 03:02, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comment

• 2390 edits overall, for anyone who is curious. blankfaze | (беседа!) 23:20, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters, if you care to respond:

1. Have you read the section on Administrators?

A. Yep. I have also checked out the sysop functions while playing with the mediawiki software on my own computer.

2. Are you interested in, and do you think you'll have some time to perform, the chores that only sysops have access to do, to help keep Wikipedia up to date?

A. I plan to have a look at the mediawiki code at some point, so that will take priority over committing to do a sysop chore on a regular basis. (I am thinking of integrating the wikipedia:new pages patrol functionality of saying "I reviewed this edit" into special:newpages and maybe special:recentchanges)

3. If you become a sysop, which sysop chore or chores (WP:VFD, recent changes, watching for vandals and vandalism, responding to editor requests for assistance, any other) do you especially think you would be able to help with.

A. I often watch the new pages part of recent changes, I think I will keep doing that. It is quite possible that I will do some maintainance at WP:VFD, WP:CP or vandalism if either thing needs doing.

4. In your opinion, what article have you contributed the most succesfully and helpfully to?

A. I think I did a good job of writing the synopsis of The Little Mermaid. Almost a stub, but Cell chip is also a nice reference.

5. In your opinion, what has your best contribution to the running and maintenance of Wikipedia been? (i.e., have you reverted a bad stretch of vandalism, done extensive work categorizing articles, helped mediate a dispute?)

A. I have spend a good deal of time watching special:newpages: copyediting, expanding, vfd'ing and watching for copyright problems. Fx I caught Gatch gereftani the other day, what looks like an example of false information.

6. Of your Wikipedia edits and experiences thus far, what is your biggest regret? What do you wish you'd done differently?

A. No big regrets come to mind.

Thanks and good luck! -- Cecropia | Talk 23:01, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! Thue | talk 00:10, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Вопрос 7: Do you promise to always use proper British English, never the corruption that is American English?

I think the wikipedia policy in the style guide of using the right spelling in the right context is sensible. Thue | talk 09:27, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Self nominations for adminship

Self-nominators, please review the qualifications above. Many editors feel that self-nominees should "exceed the usual guidelines by a good measure," have an account name that is many months old and have many hundreds of edits. This is not to say that self-nominators are necessarily any less qualified than "sponsored" nominations; however, many editors use their knowledge of the nominator as a "jumping off" point for considering nominees, and it is human nature to be more skeptical of those asking for a position than those being proposed by others. If you self-nominate, a good solid background is therefore very important.

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