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India v. South Asia

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Pakistan national movement

Hi Mar4d! I am just getting in touch to let you know that I have created the article Pakistan national movement. I think that You can help to improve it. I would appreciate any assistance you could provide in improving this article. Regards Averroist (talk) 15:28, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Averroist. Great article, and great sources! I'll surely be around and edit the article to help where I can. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Mediation note

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Thanks for notifying. Mar4d (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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1RR

Have you forgotten your one revert restriction when editing the same articles as I? Please self revert. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:31, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Jammu and Kashmir freedom movement

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J&K freedom movement template

How about naming it Kashmir separatist movement? --SMS ^Talk 15:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Or Template:Kashmiri nationalism would suit better since this is basically a nationalism template. What d'you think? Mar4d (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm fine with both, just to let you know. Mar4d (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Both are good with me too. Btw I was adding counter POV to what was already present and some other content in Pro-Pakistan sentiment in Kashmir when it appeared that the do you want to create this article that was deleted .... You may ask JBW to restore it to userspace if you want to work on it. --SMS ^Talk 17:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

But I am more tempted to move it to "Kashmir separatist movement". --SMS ^Talk 16:32, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

That's good to go. Do you want to move it now, or wait until the result of the AfD becomes clear? Mar4d (talk) 16:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I think its better to move now and leave a comment at TfD but wait I just saw Regents Park's suggestion, whats your take on "Kashmir conflict". --SMS ^Talk 17:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Not quite... since the template is mainly about seperatist/seccessionist movements and seperatism, renaming to Kashmir conflict would not be an apt title or accurately define its scope. That's my opinion, ofcourse. Mar4d (talk) 17:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok then I think we are good to go, meanwhile I may also create Template:Kashmir conflict. --SMS ^Talk 17:34, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll be around to help if required. Mar4d (talk) 17:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Certainly your help is required here. --SMS ^Talk 17:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Done with the title change, please revert/correct if you find some error there. --SMS ^Talk 20:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• Though I don't have any serious issue but I think Kashmir conflict may serve as a better title. What do you say? --SMS ^Talk 16:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Pro-Pakistan sentiment in Kashmir

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		The NPOV Barnstar of Merit
		standing upto POV/hounding Starsgazing (talk) 15:52, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thankx

Thankx for corrcting my edit my browser is not good --Highstakes00 (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

No worries. And thanks for relisting that RfC :) Mar4d (talk) 12:34, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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I've asked for a clarification.. ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle ^™ 05:52, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

1RR

And again you break it, please self revert. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:38, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Mar4d, you need to provide a citation for the statement otherwise you need to put the "citation needed" back in there.JCAla (talk) 16:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough.. Mar4d (talk) 16:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

that last revert put you on 4 r, self revert now. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Are we ok then with the changes we accomplished today? JCAla (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I have replied on Salvio's talk page in response to your thread on TopGun. There are several issues that still remain in the article. Irrelevant content needs to be removed - that includes WP:SYNTHESIS paragraphs on Gulbuddin Hekmatyar who has nothing to do with the Balochistan conflict. Furthermore, all sources show that the alleged support of Hekmatyar and other Islamic groups in Afghanistan was a response to Afghan support of Baloch and Pashtun seperatists. The version you edited implies as if Afghan support to Baloch rebels only came after Pakistani (alleged) support to Islamic groups. That is incorrect, rather it is the other way around. Mar4d (talk) 15:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Potwari people

Do you know whether the Potwari-speaking people (see Potwari language) of Azad Kashmir and northern Punjab (Pakistan) are classified as a seperate ethnic group? Should there be an article on Potwari people or are they generally considered Punjabis? Just noticed this while looking at Potwari and saw the red link on Pothohari people.... Mar4d (talk) 01:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Very good point. I think there should be seperate article, ( for example there is a seperate Seraki people stub), but to get hold of good sources will be difficult. Infact, of hand I know of none. There was an editor called Pahari Sahib who did some work on Pothohari related articles, it might be worth contacting him. On the Azad Kashmir and Punjab point, I think that the dialects of Azad Kashmir and Pothohar are pretty similar, for example both say kare san, but in AK they prefer to call it Pahari language. Grierson who published the Linguistic Survey of India called the language Lahnda. Sorry can't be more helpful. I am taking a bit of break, but if you require any input please fill free to contact me.

--WALTHAM2 (talk) 21:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Kashmir separatist movement

Template:Kashmir separatist movement has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Darkness Shines (talk) 06:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

ANI

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I have raised concerns over your misuse of twinkle jere Darkness Shines (talk) 15:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ignore the above, Dennis seems to be of the opinion I should raise the issue with you first. So might I ask why you reverted a good faith edit as vandalism? Darkness Shines (talk) 15:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Per the same reason IRWolfie- explained to you, Pakistan-occupied is a POV term and does not comply with WP:NPOV. Also, the IP messed up the wikilink. Mar4d (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not have a clue what you are talking about re IRWolfie, when did he say that to me? But that is beside the Point, the edit was clearly not vandalisim, so why mark it as such? Darkness Shines (talk) 16:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, you obviously didn't read his comment on the ANI thread. The edit was vandalism, blatantly violating WP:NPOV. Mar4d (talk) 16:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Nope, got a link? So you still insist this was vandalism? Darkness Shines (talk),

There. Mar4d (talk) 16:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

June 2012

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Continuing mediation

Both Darkness Shines and JCAla have indicated that they are willing to cease disputes elsewhere. I trust that you also agree with this. I've asked the following question: "Would participants be willing to agree on specific examples of text within articles that we could take a look at with reference to the identified issues?" [1] Sunray (talk) 22:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Warning on SE

Hi there! I saw your warning on SE's tp. Well, please do not template the regulars. I agree that what SE wrote can't be considered proper but your warning also can't be justified. We are here to develope the encyclopedia not to fight. It is better if this is discontinued by both the sides now. I'd like to offer an apology on behalf of him and lets stop this now. Cheers! →TSU ^tp* 06:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Just an observation, templating is not supposed to be a provocation. See WP:TTR which presents equal opposite reasons for templating the regulars when it is really needed. Thanks for refactoring the personal comments though. Cheers. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

You should have followed the same before preaching me.....about personal attacks. ϮheჂtriԞeΣagle ^Sorties 12:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually the first person to keep that mind is the one making that edit (the edits you make are your responsibility)... not the one who received it or moved the content. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

One of the 1300 most active Wikipedians ignores the mistake...forgets to warn the user not to do the mistake again and even displays the same in their user(or) talk page...that's fine..I completely agree with you ϮheჂtriԞeΣagle ^Sorties 12:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean to justify your actions in light of others'? Or to make a right with two wrongs, or tit for tat? The user making that edit is already banned. You're not; so take the responsibility of your own editing and stop making WP:POINTy edits. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

no...I didn't mean to justify my edit.Maybe my mention of names was wrong...but I found it particularly surprising(and shocking that Mar4d didn't template the user who did the same mistake as done by me.Morever, mentioning DS's name in the star was later removed by TSU...not Mar4d.This probably means only one thing.... one:he ignores it..or two:he agrees to it...lets think option one is correct for now.. ϮheჂtriԞeΣagle ^Sorties 14:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for the barnstar, I appreciate it. (Wiki id2(talk) 16:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC))

You're welcome :] Would like to expand that article and bring it to a decent size. Mar4d (talk) 02:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

Is there a reason you called this vandalism?[2] WP:VANDAL is very specific on what is called vandalism and what isn't. Calling good faith vandalism is itself disruptive. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 20:43, 21 June 2012 (UTC)