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Lips Are Movin

Hey, Can you go over the article once :). I have performed a copy-edit on it. If any concerns left, pleasepost on my talk page. You are awesome. Thank you. MaRAno ^FAN 13:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I say "What art iconoclasm!"- you say "Yes, it's sartorially challenging"

Drmies entertaining page

George William Sartorius- I just had this. − ^{An Owl’s Lunch}.

weird. We really don't have an article on him

+ we still don't have an article on this guy. Not very fair towards him, he tried hard. Those are nice melons! --Hafspajen (talk) 14:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• The only thing you need it should have been a new header. Xanty knows that. Hafspajen (talk) 14:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
• Xanty never deletes things - but puts in a new header. Follow his example! Hafspajen (talk) 14:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

'* And after all this said, Drmies help now to translate that article for Xanty, so he can have some EV on it and nominate his first featured picture. After all he is the expert on the Rose Bonheur and her brothers. Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• He said: Stunning! after all... Hafspajen (talk) 14:38, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Come on... with a little help from our beloved great Dutch Doctor he can make it - and share those stunning cows with the rest of us... maybe it can be put as the picture of the day on Rose's birthday 16 March or something. Hafspajen (talk) 14:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

..' I only hope the file is big enough. After I checked I am not sure if it will satisfy Crisco.... Hafspajen (talk) 14:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Suddenly the 'phone rang. "Who could this be?" Hafs wondered "It's after midnight, and all the artists are tucked up in bed". It was George William Sartorius, effing and blinding as usual. Something about red ink, or a red link- Hafs couldn't make it out. "This is too much" Hafs thought "Let's put George down on the Dutch Doctor's waiting list for neutering. That'll shut him up". Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Eh, what is the supposed subject of this article that's generating so much buzz? Just to be clear. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

George William Sartorius. Can't find nuffink more on him at the moment on the web- Hafs can hang the gallery now. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

At the moment he has the same birth and death years as John Nott Sartorius, so probably wrong for GW. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:50, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• You guys sure know how to pick a winner. Can't find nothing in JSTOR or in Google Books. Drmies (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• the 'phone rang... - Hafspajen (talk) 18:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
• Hey, who has the most artbooks arround ... Hafspajen (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Why not ask Mandarax? He LOVES eighteenth-century art. Drmies (talk) 16:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• I wouldn't say I particularly LOVE – in all-caps – eighteenth-century art; if anything, I would reserve that for the late nineteenth. I don't have many art books, and none that I do would include him. I tried Oxford Art Online and the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, both of which in an ideal world would cover every British artist, but there was nothing. Sorry. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:12, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Oh dear ... "To discuss the Sartorius tribe and such painters is no business of the historian of art, no matter how bitter the accusations of neglect are wont to be from those specialist writers who sometimes confuse the history of art with praising famous horses." Yngvadottir (talk) 16:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC) ... Also, there's a drumbeat of sources, including the DNB, that don't mention George but say that practically the only source of information on the family is a pair of articles by Sir Walter Gilbey in Baily's Magazine, Jan. and Feb. 1897, and I cannot find 1897 on Google Books, only 1898. One such source. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Oh well- we need a specialist praiser of famous horses. Did Prince Monolulu write any books on art? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• ANYBODY CALLED? Prince Monolulu (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Luvo page - your redirect

Hi,

When I was updating Christine M. Day I noticed you had re-directed Luvo to another page. Just curious to find out why in light of http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/01/14/outgoing-lululemon-ceo-christine-day-to-take-helm-at-healthy-fast-food-firm-luvo/. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Is the answer in here? Sorry, it's been a while. Perhaps CorporateM has a clue--for some reason I referred to them in my edit summary. Drmies (talk) 17:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Well at least I now know why your cryptic edit summary said this: " (hey corp, this is about a corp)" -- but with my memory I will most likely forget ;-) ,and I guesss it is now up to me to figure out why Luvo was re-directed without a ref to support it. Ottawahitech (talk) 17:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
    • Well, I understand neither tone nor content of your message. It is not your job at all to figure out what my motivation was--though I can tell you: some of their food was on sale at Publix, I bought it and ate it, and looked into the name, and found this article which prompted me to create a redirect to an existing article on Wikipedia. Cause redirects are helpful, and they don't need a ref to support them.

      You act like my creation of this redirect is somehow a Big Deal. First of all, Luvo started its life as LYFE, so that already makes it a plausible redirect. Second, if you want to know why it's not a redirect to the Day article, I can ask you, why should it? Or, why should that have been the more plausible target? Luvo and Lyfe share something else--they're brands, companies, and redirect a brand to a company CEO is odd. But if you want to write the Luvo article, or if you insist on it being a redirect to Day (and why not to Steve Sidwell (entrepreneur), who apparently founded the joint and owns most of the stock?), then why don't you just propose that somewhere, or why don't you just do it? Drmies (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

      • Well, the discussion motivated me to read about LYFE here on Wikipedia, then to read some of the references, and then my wife ended up on their website, and says they have a nice menu, and they have a restaurant in Palo Alto, where we work from time to time, so now I see a leisurely, pleasant lunch there with her in the next few weeks. So, thanks. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

he ploughs the fields with untold sorrow. Please ring after midnight

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ploegen_in_de_Nivernais

Just WHERE DID THAT GO? Is this an attempt to escape translating the article? Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunaltelly the file is not good enough to FP. But still... it is good enough for a DYK... Hafspajen (talk) 18:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

External videos
[1] Bonheur's Plowing in the Nivernais

• See an external video from Smarthistory about Ploughing in Nevers
• Sorry Haf, but I don't know what article you mean. Also, I cut a picture--too many pictures make this page difficult on my mobile. Drmies (talk) 00:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

If you keep removing it you will never know. The link is attached to the picture... the one you cut .... Hafspajen (talk) 01:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Can I go to sleep now? I look forward to DYK and GA nominations. Drmies (talk) 04:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

THAT WAS GOOD: wonder who will nominate? Xanty maybe? Hafspajen (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Comment time for proposed merges

Hello, Drmies and anyone else watching. I proposed a bunch of merges of song articles to their albums' articles. I've read the merge guidelines, but am unclear on how long to wait after proposing a merge for comments and votes before taking action. Wikipedia:Merging says at least one week in one place, and at least 30 days in another. In practice, what's a good amount of time to wait for comments/votes? Thanks as always! Comments welcome from anyone. =D Shinyang-i (talk) 04:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• It depends, Shinyang. Sometimes these things linger for a long time; a few weeks ago I closed one such thing that had been open for more than half a year. I'd say wait a week, or two at the most, and then just go ahead and cite WP:BOLD. I hope that kind folk like Xanty and Cullen and others can help you out in the next few days--I am taking a short break to visit a friend in Manchester. Good luck, and thanks for your continued dedication. Drmies (talk) 05:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Drmies. So far they have no comments, so I'll just keep an eye on them. Have a good trip! Shinyang-i (talk) 05:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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New article

Dedicated to Great Mies - Not grey-but colorful - Gustav III. Hafspajen (talk) 23:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• King Gustav III of Sweden and his Brothers ... Hafspajen (talk) 02:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Kim Prisu

I declined an A7 on this article. I linked the French Wikipedia article to it. I started trying to do copy edits, but it's a massive mess. Might be better to start from scratch using the French article as a basis. Someone more interested in painters might want to tackle it?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:13, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Not atypical for artist articles I'm afraid. I have wrangled most of it into English but may have to leave the mid-section, the narrative of his career, for tomorrow: I have another task I must do now off-wiki. I will put the external links there from the French to stave off BLP-PROD, but I am not sure he's notable. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

The decline of the A7 was easier than the issue of whether he's notable. The French article looked more like a resume than anything else. My knowledge of painters is a limiting factor. I would think that our "timeline" section could be pared down to only those events that are noteworthy. Thanks for helping out.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

What's a "Acadêmico Correspondente"? He's been appointed as one by the Brazilian Federation of Academics of Science, Literature and Art. Probably notable, but doesn't appear to be any English results on him (unlike Os Gêmeos). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 07:55, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

A mess at Curious (Fiestar song) - can anyone help?

Hello. There's a bit of a mess at Curious (Fiestar song), which I have partially compounded. It's not an edit war, so don't worry! Basically, the article is in several song categories and the infobox indicates the article is about a song. However, it was located at Curious (Fiestar album), which apparently was a move from Curious (EP). I moved it to what I thought was correct (Curious (Fiestar song)), but infobox and categories nonwithstanding, the article really is apparently about an EP called Curious after all. I can't move it back to the EP title, and I have no idea what to do. Can anyone help me get this article to the proper title and get all the incorrect titles (song and album) deleted or redirected or whatever they should be? No big hurry. Thank you so much! Sorry for the mess! Shinyang-i (talk) 08:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

After more research, I think I've finally figured it out. Sort of. Whoever did this used two different translations and somehow called it an album. The article is about a song and its B-side after all...I think. Shinyang-i (talk) 21:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK ...that he ploughs the fields with untold sorrow...(pictured) ... ?

Vine

Template:Did you know nominations/Ploughing in the Nivernais Hafspajen (talk) 16:16, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

• NEED A DECENT HOOK, NOW - FUNNY GUYS. Hafspajen (talk) 16:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)^{yes it is shouting.}

• Yeah, but I still don't know where that sorrow comes from, where it is linked. You're being too cryptic for me, Hafspionio. Drmies (talk) 03:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Robert Lovelace Preparing to Abduct Clarissa Harlowe.JPG

• Well, because that's not an alt. No sources, nothing, it is just a JOKE. Do I have to EXPLAIN jokes to the Great Drmies? Hafspajen (talk) 04:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• Need other alt. Hafspajen (talk) 04:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• Frédéric Paulhan has turned sacre bleu. Might be useful in developing a hook regarding his opinion. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:02, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• Hastermind, next time you'll say that something wasn't a joke and that I deleted the "real" reference. Your untold sorrow sounded like it could have come from Gerda Arendt's diary (or latest research paper). Drmies (talk) 16:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• Wish I could read your mind, Drmies. Rather than being stuck with untold sorrow, I usually picture my sorrow, - click on the image and see where it links ;) - Cheer up Cassianto. (I think coffee and cookies helped already, he's not dead silent.) - My diary is wide open, I just added a preview of great music! I am on Wikipedia because my memory is fading and I trust it will be kept here ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

  Ha, same here: frequently I find myself making a quick edit to an article just so I can look it up in my edit history... Drmies (talk) 18:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• If anyone starts an Arbcom 3 I will scream. Hastermind (talk) 16:25, 27 January 2015

  I want to say that I don't think that party will be planned anytime soon, but you never know. Drmies (talk) 18:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Not that you are likely to be in Wales…

But I came across this, and thought you might be interested to know about it: Medieval Women Editathon. LadyofShalott 17:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Whistlaw at Swansea University, Wales

Yes, it's today; thanks for keeping an eye on the Project page - which will list all edits. Add your username onto the Project page, as a virtual guest! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to our WomenHistLaw project! I know it's 8am there now, but we'd love to have you involved at any time during the day. We have three hours to go, but even after that, you can get in touch with me or on Twitter @WomenHistLaw. If you'd like to sign up on the 'Remote' section of our event page, please do! Srbswansea (talk) 13:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• I wish I'd known before--please next time drop me a line if you think you can do with administrative or other assistance. I hope y'all had a great day. I did sign up in the "remote" section, but I'll leave Twitter for the young folk. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
• Lady, Ealdgyth, did you see this? (And look at the size of that grant!) I wish I had some students I could send to Wales, but our Medieval Program is fledgling, to put it mildly. I will pass the link on to a few colleagues here and there if, Srbswansea, Facebook is not too old-fashioned and wordy for a Twitter user... :) Drmies (talk) 16:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Sadly, I would probably not qualify - I'm an "independent scholar" ... as is so euphemistically known. No M.A. even. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up on the page Dmries - I'd love for you to pass the link on to any colleagues, and I'll get in touch when we do another editathon (and give you more warning this time). I'm actually not on facebook either for the project or personally, but we are considering setting up a page. Will let you know if so! Srbswansea (talk) 09:49, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Racial attack

Hi. This was just brought to my attention. Is that ever acceptable on WP? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:57, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) That's really something, he tells you to learn English, but he can't spell "don't" or "you" correctly... --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

No, "gook" and words like that are never OK, though "inbred" is only slightly less never OK, if at all (though I appreciate the plane/plain thing). If I had seen it last week I would have blocked. BTW, I think "mandarchod" means "motherfucker", but I'm no expert. Sitush, how are you on your Hindi insults? Drmies (talk) 16:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Yup. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Drmies, I am about as (in)competent with Hindi insults as with Dutch ones. I tend to look the words up when suspicion arises, as NeilN has done. There can be an element of cultural differences involved, though: what may seem like a grossly offensive term to, say, a Californian might equally be nothing more than joshing or mild disparagement to someone from, say, Maharashtra or even Manchester. You need to look at the usage in context. Which seems pretty clear-cut in this instance. - Sitush (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

So it's OK to say someone is of a particular ethnic background in a negative sense and/or a motherfucker, just as long as no-one spots it within 5 days?! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 19:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

No it's not. But if you came here expecting Drmies to block him, as long as he isn't currently attacking you, he should be warned and everyone should carry on. Because blocks aren't punitive. I guess you should have came here earlier. Just my 2¢. P.S. I added a lvl 3 warning on his talk for personal attacks, since Drmies removed the attack earlier today. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 19:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Lugnuts, I can't really block after the fact--five days after the fact. For better or for worse that would make a block punitive and I'm not supposed to do that, as revolting as that particular insult was. I thought that the change I made would be clear enough to the user. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Russian Armed Forses in Ukraine.

Drmies, I don't understand what's wrong? There must be freedom of speech. Internet is really no pictures of the Russian army in Ukraine. Роберт Рэй (talk) 18:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

• There is no freedom of speech here; this is a website, not a constitutionally protected zone. (Which constitution anyway?) You can't place important but unverified statements in articles, and this particular one isn't neutral at all, for reasons that I think are pretty clear. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Chinese boy band M.I.C. (band)

All five members of this band has a page on English wiki but not Chinese wiki. Methinks that at least some lack independent notability and could be deleted/merged. Timmyshin (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

I just looked at that article and holy schnikes! Most fanning-est fan page I've read in a while. It's crying for a heavy copyediting! I don't think there is any group overseeing Chinese pop music articles. Shinyang-i (talk) 06:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

FLY, bird fly

Melero - Freestyle GP Camión de España 2013 -

I can FLY anyway

Yes a featured pic. Hafspajen (talk) 02:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

• Think bike- think biker- think bikest Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:37, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, boy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 29 January 2015 (UTC)