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IMAGES FROM www.araldicacivica.it I am uploading numerous coat of arms image from www.araldicacivica.it, that I use in infobox of Italian communes. Authorisation to their use here can be found at:

IMAGES FOR PALAZZOLO ACREIDE just received this authorisation to use the images from www.palazzolo-acreide.it

certo che puoi utilizzarle... fai conto però che alcune immagini (le gallerie del barocco, ad esempio) sono mie (Andrea Latina/Centro Studi Iblei) e la maggior parte di quelle presenti sul sito sono dell'associazione culturale Studi Acrensi.

IMAGES FROM www.comune.gerace.rc.it Received authorisation for use the images from the site, provided origin is specified Grazie per gli apprezzamenti rivolti al nostro sito. Può usare le foto basta indicare la fonte. Cordiali saluti Loredana Panetta june 26, 2006 Cordiali saluti

Andrea Latina (RESUME): "of course you can use them"

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asking for the possibilty to use images, I received this reply from the site webmaster: Sono l'autore del sito, delle foto e dei testi. Per Wikipedia senz'altro SI, la apprezzo molto, dovrei però sapere (anche eventualmente a posteriori) in quali pagine sono state utilizzate. Cordiali saluti. Claudio de Tisi. (June 16 2006) (RESUME) "I author of the site I authorize the use of the images for Wikipedia, provided I will be informed about the pages they're used in."

Procida

I cleaned up Procida as well as I could. I am not sure that I interpreted everything correctly because some things were ambiguous, especially the section on folklore and traditions. You might want to take a look at the changes.

Also, I'm not sure what this is saying, "The population was sheltered on the cape of the Earth, naturally defended from walls to peak on the sea and later on more times fortified, changing therefore the name in Earth Bulwark." I think the first part is about the island or the cape of the island providing natural protection, but I don't know what "walls to peak on the sea" means. A bulwark is a "barricade of beams and soil used in 15th and 16th century fortifications designed to mount artillery." So, I guess it is saying that the fortifications were later increased by building a bulwark. However, I don't understand what the name change is about (they changed the name of the cape to Earth Bulwark?). It might be good to translate that one manually. -- Kjkolb 13:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

The population was sheltered on a point of land, naturally defended by the cliffs that fell away towards the sea, and was later fortified many times, giving it the name Fort Land. or Bastion, or Bulwark land. (The name is best left in the local language and given and explanation. Terra is used in Italian names where in English it would be -hill, -land, -borough, or -ville.)

--Amandajm 12:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Messina Template

Hello, I noticed you have recently created a template for towns in Messina. There has recently been a Wikiproject started for Sicily: Wikipedia:WikiProject Sicily. Maybe you would be interested in joining. There has been a lot of work going on to Wikify all of the towns in Sicily. More information on this aspect of the project can be found at: List of Sicilian municipalities.

For example, there have been new categories created for Sicilian comunes. Specifically, each town should be placed in [[Category:Municipalities of the Province of ***]] (add whatever Province the comune is in). [[Category:Towns in Sicily]] and [[Category:Cities in Sicily]] are no longer used. Anyway, great work on the Messina template, and I encourage you to get involved in the Sicily Wikiproject.- AKeen 18:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

User:87.29.89.217 does not result blocked on his page. Let me know, he has vandalized a lot of pages in a few minutes. Attilios 09:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, he's blocked; you can tell by looking at the block log, linked on his Special:Contributions/87.29.89.217 page, here: [2]. It's just the message on his userpage wasn't there; I just popped one down. ~ PseudoSudo 09:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Translated articles

Was the work on the Procida and Antonello da Messina articles acceptable? If so, I can work on other articles when I get a chance. Just let me know what they are. Talk to you later, Kjkolb 14:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar of National Merit - Italy

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		For contributing so many Italian related articles (100+) to wikipedia in so short a time, I hereby award you this barnstar! Enjoy, ßlηguγΣη

Dalmatian (dog)

This is in reply to your message left on my talk page: Certainly, I will take a look at them later today. Thanks for your valuable contributions to the Dalmatian article. Regards, Accurizer 11:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar from myself

		The Template Barnstar
		I, Attilio Funel, give myself this deserved barnstar for the adding and creations of hundreds of templates and infoboxes in the sectors of sports and geography.Attilios 11:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian communists

Sure, I'll take a look. Might I enlist your help for a plan I have to categorize all Italian politicians according to party and/or state (for those of the pre-Risorgimento)? I took my time with it because I have felt compelled to copy-edit them as I assigned them cats, and may also get it wrong with earlier parties etc. Plus, my Italian sucks (I understand virtually all, but I still need a dictionary to get by - and I can't speak it or write it). Dahn 13:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope my edits are ok. Could you proof-read it? Thanks. Dahn 22:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you have created Category:Members of the Democrats of the Left. Isn't this doubled by Category:Democratic Party of the Left and Democrats of the Left Party members? I considered the two virtually indistinguishable, and it would be a nuisance placing virtually the same set of polticians into two different categories. I was thinking I could nominate it for speedy deletion, but I'm waiting for you to share your thoughts. Dahn 20:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swimming footers

Hello Attilios. I have completed them. Yes, you most certainly deserve a rest, as there was evidence of fatigue from mixing up a few of the events. I like that barnstar for template - by the way, I still have more template edits than you - according to the toolserver! [3].

Also, with all of your long historical/geographical articles, there are often interesting and unusual facts - you can nominate these to be included on the front page at Template talk:Did you know

Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 06:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alife

I intend to write an article on Ranulf soon. I will look over the Alife article in more depth later. What does (CE) mean? Srnec 21:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikiproject Sicily

Hi Attilios - it would be great if you could sign up for the above project - if nothing else, to lend some moral support! Salutamu. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 12:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, I will admit that Americans are, by and large, a provincial and chauvinistic lot, but, that said, there is no need to replace useful information like the birthplace of Bill Belichick as you did here. In general it seems to me that if a subject's place of birth is given in linked form (Nashville, Tennessee), as it was here, there is little need to add their nationality, as a reader unfamiliar with the location named can simply click on it and discover that Nashville is in the US. Similarly, as an American reader, it wouldn't bother me in the least to have an article that informed me that a subject was born in Modena or Palermo omit the nationality-- not only because of the linked form of the information, but also because, oddly enough, I know where those places are without hyperlinking, just as there are doubtless a few Italians who know what country New York, California, and even Tennessee are in. If you want to add "an American x" to all articles on Americans, that's fine, but please don't remove information while you're at it. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 22:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Sorry, I missed the fact that you moved the place of birth further down in the article. Nevertheless, I still feel that with a wikilinked birthplace, explicitly stating nationality is of minor importance. -- Mwanner | Talk 22:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote "the thing about specifying nationality is stated in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style guideline page." Thanks, I was unaware of that. It's interesting, though-- on the same Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) page where it indeed indicates that nationality should be given, it cites several pages as, one assumes, good examples of biography, that don't actually come out and say "X is a Y". See, for example, Fidel Castro, who it says "...has been the leader of Cuba...". The Cleopatra article states only that she was "was a queen of ancient Egypt." Also Bill Clinton was "...the 42nd President of the United States...". The articles on Lucy Washington and Boris Karloff fail to give any direct statement of nationality.

It seems to me that saying that a person was "born in Rome" or "born in Athens" or "lives in New York City" is the equivalent of saying "Italian", "Greek" or "American".

I was about to add "I will raise this question explicitly on the MoS (biographies) Talk page" so I took a look at it-- it turns out that there is quite an extensive discussion of the subject there already, though from a somewhat different point of view. I may add a new heading to deal with the above, though, which is a somewhat different view of the question.

Thanks for raising the issue, -- Mwanner | Talk 23:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot help but consider that this is partly related to the header on my talk page. Thank you for your help in this respect, my fellow European! Dahn 11:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing which I find perplexing is that, when the Brits do bother to refer to the nationality of the article topic, they link to Britain (which leads to a healthy disambig). It's like they don't know what country they themselves inhabit. Don't mean to clog your page, Attilios, but I had to get this off my chest... :) Dahn 11:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Renato Zero

Hi there! I made some changes in the Renato Zero article, but there was one sentence I didn't really know what to do with: "It is noteworthy that Zero's success was obtained with almost no airing of his song(s?) on Italian radio." Does this mean he was ignored throughout his career, or does it refer only to one particular song? Cheers, David Sneek 12:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC) p.s.: Yes, I'd like to start a new chess game![reply]

Franco Battiato

Minor proofread done - well done - a fascinating article - I'm now interested in chasing down some of his music! A prestu. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 02:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian communes

Hi Attilios,

Thanks for your message on my talk page, and sorry for the delay in replying. I am generally in favour of making the Italy comune pages somewhat consistent, and I’ll certainly adopt the templates you suggest for commune and and province boxes. (There’s a range of alternatives being used, as you know, and it will certainly be helpful if everyone sticks to the same one.)

The navigation template I did for communes in Province of Alessandria turns out to be pretty similar to the ones you have been making, so I don’t see a problem there. (The main differences are that it includes all comuni in the province, and that it does the job of putting the comune for which it’s used into the relevant category.)

On standardizing content I wouldn’t want to be too rigid. I agree that

Geography
History
Main Sites
Transportation

is a handy checklist, and that in many cases it may do as the actual structure. But how one actually wants to structure an article will in practice depend a lot on the town in question. The (English) town where I live, for instance doesn’t have a single ‘site’ in a touristic sense. Nevertheless, anyone writing about it would certainly want to describe the built environment and point to some particular buildings—both extant and lost. (It’s for the most part a nineteenth-century railway town, built almost from scratch in a fairly consistent architectural style which would need to be described.)

Anyway, what I am saying here is all pretty obvious no doubt. I’ve often seen your work on Wikipedia and have been very impressed.

Cheers Ian Spackman 09:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roger II of Sicily

I thought you might be interested: I expanded the article based on other Wiki articles, but it could still use more. Srnec 01:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There already was a George of Antioch article, so I merged the information at George of Antiochia there. Srnec 16:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trentine

Hallo Attilios! Are you sure the adjective "Trentine" exists? I thought - based on Britannica 1911 - that only Tridentine existed in English. (also... in the chess game, perhaps White could play c4; I'd add my reasons, but... public discussion of suggestions are counterproductive at the Royal game!) --Tridentinus 13:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I meant the article on the Prince-Bishop of Trento. The adjective seems a neologism, unheard of in English. Shouldn't ib be corrected? (A quick search brings up many more examples... almost a to-do list for me!) --Tridentinus 07:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prayers

Prayers are POV. I think, for example, a Muslim user could find them as propaganda. They cannot have place in a neutral encyclopedia. Sorry.

Nonsense. To put the shoe on the other foot, Muslim prayers would be perfectly appropriate in articles on Muslim religious subjects. Lex orandi, lex credendi. The prayers of a faith say much about what that faith believes on a subject. They are also by their nature literary, poetic, musical, and often historical compositions. There is absolutely no reason at all to uniformly censor them from articles where they're both informative and relevant. TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Pape Sow

Hi, just wanted to know what the Dante line meant on this edit. It appeared very random and strange to me, so I removed it.. Downwards 22:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chess

In our game I put the pieces back in their initial positions; move if you feel like it. David Sneek 09:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Information.

Hello, I noticed that you tagged Quero for wikification today. The sole sentence has been wikified; could please explain why the tag remains? Folajimi 20:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If that is the case, I suggest you undo that action. How will the issue ever get fixed if you hide it from plain view? Folajimi 20:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is your decision whether or not you choose to undo the action. If the idea of hiding poorly written information is downright counterproductive. If is really as bad as you said, you should have used the {{cleanup}} tag instead. I seriously doubt you are the only person here who is of Italian descent; if you really believe that, well... Folajimi 20:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template Barnstar

Thankyou vey much for this Attilios. It's a great honour. Also, good job on the DYK you have submitted. Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 01:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gela and others

Ciao Attilios - absolutely terrific work all round. I'll proofread all the Sicilian subjects you do, not only to pick up small things here and there, but most importantly, because they're always great to read! Salutamu. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 08:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coats of arms

These uploads certainly add much value to the encyclopedia, but it would be helpful if the licensing were clearer. It's not credible that [4] has released their work into the public domain without any corroboration. You say "auth. given in it.wikipedia.org permission pages". It would be far more helpful if you could provide a direct link to where authorization is given so we can all see it. I poked around on the it.wikipedia.org for a while and could not find "permission pages" there anymore than I could here. (It doesn't help that my Italian is fairly rudimentary.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that helps a lot. But please sir, tag them correctly when you upload them and it will save everyone a lot of work. It seems they have not been released to the public domain; rather, Bruno said merely that they were free to use. That's not the same thing. It appears he's approving of the GFDL -- he doesn't specify what version so probably {{GFDL}} would be appropriate. He also required that attribution be preserved particularly in the cases of images created by Massimo Ghirardi and Carletto Genovese, as usually required by that license anyway. They cannot be tagged public domain. (Despite this, I note they're tagged on the Italian wiki as "fair use" with something similar to {{Coat of arms}}. It would be better if they were tagged {{GFDL}} since the owner gave permission. It's a much stronger justification for use than "fair use".) TCC (talk) (contribs) 09:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Argentinian comics

Ciao Attilio! Non c'e problema, lo faccio oggi se ho tempo, ma ti debbo dire che il mio inglese non e troppo meglio del tuo!! Ci vidiamo. Mariano(t/c) 08:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eco, ho editato quelli articoli che mi hai detto di migliorarne. Non so se il risultato e troppo meglio, ma sono altri utenti chi possono editarli dopo. Ci sono anche alcuni dati nuovi, ti prego che li controlli. Se hai bisogno di qualcun'altra cosa, dimi senza problema. Saluti! Mariano(t/c) 11:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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NATO Base

Thanks for editing my input into the article, I am still new to this! One of the reasons that I felt the NATO base was important to mention is that its relvant to the city's decline :-( and because it was a steady source of empolyment for some people(Italians as well as Americans). Also, its part of the history of the city. I plan on doing some resreach and adding a little more about the base, but I promise to keep it short and relivant. Thanks for your time!

Accents

Ciao! Just a short note to tell you not to use accents in the categories' sorting as you did at Juan Gimenez. Unlike other wikipedia language projects (say, Italian wikipedia), the sorting of articles within a category puts acentuated vowels after the Z, so if you tag 2 articles as Cámela, Benito and Cornette, Bonifacio, Cornette will be before Cámela, because it interpretates the accentuated á as an especcial character. Therefore, we simply write the names without any accentuation. No big deal, but causes some headaches. Take care, and good wiking! Mariano(t/c) 08:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian invasion

The link you added does not even contain a sub title that involves your argument. Why don't you create an article (seperate one) and tell us about that invasion. After that it would be a nice addition, like the bakan wars.--OttomanReference 17:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about a military activity, you need to add sides, battles, ect. Redirect do not do a good, as I have seen couple books that tell about that invasion. Currently it is missing from wikipedia. Check First Balkan War. If you can create a page like First Balkan War, that would be nice.--OttomanReference 18:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope, I could have some help. My background on this issue does not extent much, sadly. However, if you do not mind the tone of the article needs a little work. It reads as a sided article, against the Italian gov. What is the reason of having a picture of this sort? Do we need to see such picks, what does it add to the article? I can see a need of this picture, onlyif you are telling that the opposition was of no income (no uniforms, no ammunition, etc) but extensive military capabilities.--OttomanReference 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The coverage is nice. If I find military history book that covers that period from Turkish sources, I will add to it. However, for the pic I have problems with (real) pics of dead people, regarding minors. Please, give substantial explanation of the pic under it (caption). Such as where, why or what purpose. I believe you have kids, too. --OttomanReference 19:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Didn't do It

You kind of sent me a random message out of blue regarding Vandalizing Trento. I hadn't even looked at that Topic. I was looking at German Unification. I just thought I would say that I did not do it.

Image:Marbled cat.gif

I've listed Image:Marbled cat.gif at Possibly unfree images, since it has no source (it's also tagged for that), and thus no reason to think it's public domain. Even if it's on many websites the copyright for it probably still belongs to someone. Chick Bowen 00:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey on the use of Latinized/Greek names for Byzantine rulers

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Attilio

user:Attilio has recently been created - and made a few non-notable edits. You did have that user page redirecting to yours but I have deleted the redirect - I am sure you would wish to disassociate yourself. -- RHaworth 11:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Padua

Why do you oppose the move from Padua, Italy to Padua? There are no other cities named Padua so there is no need for the ", Italy". The articles on other Italian cities are just the name itself. See my and also Wetman's comments on Talk:Padua. SCHZMO ✍ 21:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see what you did. I have made Padua, Italy into a redirect again and put the revised infobox on Padua. SCHZMO ✍ 21:19, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: images

When editing such articles as Michelangelo, which are prone to being vandalized every other minute, it is highly recommended to check whether your edits were not preceded by vandalism. I just reverted vandalism that your minor edits seemed to perpetuate. If you think they are important, you are welcome to reintroduce them. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 08:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your message

hello Attilios,

sorry about that. I was just trying to help standardise the Italian communes articles, but I am no expert on the information pertaining to them unfortunately, I was only doing the technical part. I just noticed that many did not have the infobox so I decided that at least it should be added. Thanks for cleaning up, I now know who to turn to in case there is information missing :-) thanks for offering your help, with kind regards Gryffindor 13:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright tags.

Ciao Attilio! I saw that in the image Image:Easter Island cave.jpg you describe a copyright-free image, as it expired 20 years after its first publication in Italy. In Argentina is pretty much the same, so we created the {{PD-AR-Photo}} copyright tag. I suggest you take a look at it, and create your own copyright tag for Italian copyright-expired images, so you can use it everywere, and ask for the tag to be added to the copyright-menu at the Upload image page.

One more thing, you should rather upload such images at commons: (you'll have to make an user to upload), since they will be available to all the wikipedias (Italian, English, Spanish, etc), and not only to the English. Also create the tag at commons. If there's something you didn't understand, or would prefer me to do it, leave me a message. Ci sintiamo, Mariano(t/c) 07:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The tag is also presentin commons: commons:Template:PD-Italy, and there are quite some images that use it. It has not been added to the list at the Upload age though. you should try contacting someone, probably at commons:Commons talk:Licensing. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 08:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

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User:87.29.89.217

Hi, just letting you know i deleted what you had written on User:87.29.89.217 user page, even if he is a vandal i don't think it is really right to use his own user page to write derogatory stuff about him, seemed abit mean, so i removed it, hope you don't mind :D (btw, i do not support this user in any of his actions of vandalism, vandalism is wrong and should not be done)

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anyway, thank you for reading this message, hope you don't mind.

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Oppdal

Nice addition of photo for Oppdal/ Thanks - Williamborg 14:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And Trondheim as well! Excellent - Williamborg 14:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick II of Sicily

I see the problem now. I have added a disambiguation statement at the top of the emperor's article. Srnec 21:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. Srnec 23:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Names of Piacenza

Are the names of Piacenza you just deleted inaccurate? Badagnani 07:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Long talk page

See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page ... for how to archive Your talk page :) --feydey 15:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sergio Gori.jpg and others

Could You please write under the images who is in it. feydey 16:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I edited also Image:Romeo Menti.jpg, hope You like it. Keep on editing and I'll wish luck for Italy in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, less than a week away. P.S. Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. feydey 17:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Firstly the source is not correct, secondly You say: "the photo from Italy older than 20 years ARE Public Domain everywhere" — how can anyone verify that, if You do not provide a source (where it says this and this took this photo in this year) just You saying so doesn't make the image 20 years or older. Please add appropriate sources, Wikipedia respects copyrights. feydey 16:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked here www.solocalcio.com/ gallery/azzurri/Testine27.htm (the source You gave) and did I not find that image, please add a source. feydey 17:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for adding source to the page where the image is. I will add also who is in the image. Thanks. feydey 17:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Otranto & other bishoprics

'Unimportant' is a relative, even subjective qualification. For example, while Aquileia patriarchate was the most important institution in that city, any bishopric is at the very least relevant as the context of its cathedral and other religious buildings. Ignoring the 'less important' bishoprics is as un-encyclopaedic as leaving out the 'less important' provinces, communes etcetera. Fastifex 19:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

George W. Bush

What was this about? I would like an explanation, please. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 19:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I responded on my talk page. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 20:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sprotection

You can't protect articles unless you're an admin. This includes sprotection. Can you stop adding {{sprotected}} to article please? Thanks. Also, try typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your posts on talk pages, it autodates for you. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 20:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars

I'm sorry that I seem to be incessantly bothering you, but I'd like to point something out. Giving a barnstar to someone and asking for one back somewhat violates the point of them. You're not really supposed to ask someone for one... --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 20:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will keep my eye on your work. Srnec 02:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

villa falconieri

Organize photos as you did caused unwanted images overlap. This happen when you visit the page using Netscape or Firefox as browsers.Please check out what you do before posting. Thank you R Clemens 14:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template for province of Alessandria

Hi Attilios, and thanks for your message, and for disambiguating Gavi.

Yes I always enjoy working on Italy-related articles because it forces me to read texts in Italian, and I harbour the hope that one day I will achieve some facility in the language. (Non parlo Italiano, ma posso ne leggere un po'.) (I am sure that there were ten mistakes in those nine words!)

I should say that I read your article on the Libyan war and and found it very good. Congratulations! (Italian history on the Wikipedia is so far usually very bad, as I am sure you will have spotted.) Did you know, by the way, that Mussolini and Nenni campaigned against the war, called for a general strike and were imprisoned? A fact that, according to Denis Mack Smith, Mussolini later tried to suppress.

One final thing, the ‘Template:province of XXX’ templates quite often have the problem (at least for users of Safari) that they overlap the city info box. It looks awful. The solution is to start with

<div class="NavFrame" style="clear:both">

rather than just

<div class="NavFrame">

Cheers, Ian Spackman 13:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Carafa

Thank you for clarifying the preferred spelling, and also for making the redirect! I had no idea which one was preferred.

Trjumpet 18:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Laurenzana

Thanks for the pointers. I will try my best. Gioto 08:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC) I also re-added the link to the marriage index as it is how I found this page while researching my ancestry. Gioto[reply]

Comuni

Hi Attilios, I thought you may give me a suggestion. When a comune has the name of two towns (like Ortignano-Ragggiolo) or the comune has officially the name of a village, but is really centered and lives in a town in a different place (like the comune of Castel San Niccolò, that really is the comune of Rassina), what should I do? Simply select the comune where the town hall is, or keep in mind the official name (and so also describe the whole area covered by the comune)? I've got these problems with the province of Arezzo.--Aldux 11:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! it's Amandajm

Would you stop stuffing up the formatting!

You no doubt are well intentioned , but every time you touch one of my articles you make a bloody mess because you obviously don't check the entire thing to see what you've actually done. In the Michelangelo article, you lost a paragraph and some corrections.

In the Architecture article the headings are now a mixed bag with no consistencey whatsoever. So that minor sections now have major headings and some things have no headings at all. . The two cathedral plans have lost their formatting abnd don't show at all. And the contents list is a mile long.

It will take 15 minutes to fix the whole thing

Why don't you learn to use the Show Preview option and then really LOOK to see what you've achieved. If you've lost a paragraph in trying to loose a bullet, then it isn't worth doing, is it?

--Amandajm 13:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Attilios!

I don't know whether you got me previous message, but after you had corrected my "Style" you left behind you about a dozen inconsistencies and things that didnt work, because you'd failed to delete my formatting and put the standard formatting around it, or done the formatting on one sid of the wodr only etc etc etc.

You obviously didn't use the preview to see the effect of what you'd done. That is clear! Because if you saw the mess you mmade, I presume you would have fixed it. Now I wish you'd go back and check the effects of your LAST lot of changes. Because there are problems again.

I have taken on board the fact that bullets and bold don't seem to belong to to the format. I'll leave them out in future.

BUT let me explain the rationale for some of my formatting.

1. Some of the subject sub-headings are of considerable importance, eg Names of Architectural epochs under the heading of Style, Names of countries under a heading of Regional Styles. These are the things that the writer wants to appear in the Contents List. 2. Other subject headings are less important- eg the various object within th Cathedral do not warrant as much emphasis as the Style. They don' really need sub-headings that appear in the index.

But if you really want an index that is a kilometre long and gives no indication of the significance of the topic, then leave them there, in the interest of Style!

But if you are going to INSIST on getting the Style absolutely standard, them please try to GET IT RIGHT. Don't walk off and leave it in a mess like it is now, OK?!

OK! I'll fix it again, But please go back to the point at which you left it on the previous occasion and I can assure you, you will understand why I was agro.

--Amandajm 00:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Centrally planned etc

Let me explain

The heading Mausoleum is not a heading to a paragraph of examples of centrally-planned buildings. It's the heading to a paragraph about how the centrally-planned mausoleum influenced church architecture. Please look at it in context.

The heading Basilicas is not a heading of greater importance than the others listed beneath influences. It's not about Christian Basilicas. It's about how the Roman Basilica influenced Christian church plan, as did the mausoleum, the atrium, the bema etc. Again, please look at it in context.

--Amandajm 01:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning the choice of Pisa

In each case, I only describe one building and I don't describe it in detail. Did you read the rationale? The reason why Pisa was selected was that it represents very well certain characteristics which are typically Italian, rather than typicall Romanesque. THIS wqs the point of comparison.

OK, It looks nothing like St Mark's and not much like il Duomo Firenze. But what do they have in common?

Polychrome. Typical of Italy, not France, Not England, not Spain, rarely Germany.
Free standing tower. Typical of Italy, not France, not Germany, only a few in Spain and ONE in England.
Dome over the crossing. Typical of Italy, two in Southern France, none in Germany before Romanesque, one in England before 19thC, few in Spain before Romanesques

And so on.

You need to read the section heading and try to take in what that section of the article is actually on about before you make changes. I'm going to keep on saying this.

I think it's high time that I looked up your articles to see with what logic and style one ought to be constructed.

Hi Attilios!

Frankly, when I looked at the page that you had editted for style, I thought it had been vandalised. Seriously. What I wrote to you, above was an explanation of my annoyance. As for looking at your pages, because you are concerned about Style, I would expect to see a good example of how to do it appropriately. I'm still learning. Ther eare a great many skills in using this program, that I have to remember or look up in another window continually, and its frustrating.

Anyway, now I've found out how to send messages!

I have to also confess, that at my age, the arrogance of youth offends me somewhat. I'm offended when someone sorts out my style, loosing my content and says, oh well, if you really want your paragraph, you can put it back. I simply wouldn't do that sort of thing myself. It is rude. If I lost good quality content unintentionally while editting style, I would fix it. Rather than leaving it to the person who had written it to fix.

You talk about courtesy, but don't seem to see that actions indicate courtesy as well as words, written or spoken. Telling me you'd fixed my style but stuffed my content wasn't courteous, either way.

The main problem was, you hadn't fixed the style. It was in a total muddle! Please go back to that point, look at what actually happened to the page, and (considering that I am an inexperienced user,) try to get a handle on what I thought when I saw it. It took me quite a while to fix it, because I'm slow. When you've had a look at it, you will understand why I was cross.

As for my adding the See also bits, Yes, that was done as a direct response to your suggestion. The links were already there, where it said, Lists of Cathedrals, but placing the links idividually made them more accessible. It was a good idea.

The other thing that I have done correct it to the Wiki style because, although I can see good reason for the method that I employed, I can also see that other users will correct it repeatedly, if it doesn't fit. It's fixed, OK?!

I also had a perfectly polite message from someone who explained why it's pointless to put in gaps here and there. Very useful and taken on board.

I am not really difficult. Perhaps I need to change my name. I haven't come across another female here yet. What have you blokes done to scare them off?

--Amandajm 11:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC) but you can call me Nonna[reply]

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Carlo Maderno

Three different sources, three different spellings!!?

Take your pick- Maderna, Maderno, Moderna. Could try Moderno as well.... Which one do you like best?

--Amandajm 12:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

G'Day!

Would you believe that the Maderna spelling comes from none other than Banister Fletcher which is the old Bible of architectural history. I had Maderno and was checking some details and found that spelling. My spelling is not good at the best of times, so I proptly changed it.

Nonna

Inconsistency

What has me puzzled is this, if you used a program to sort out the editting, then one would expect that the results would have been completely consistent. I wonder what went wrong?

My only hesitation in adding more pics to that page is that its very long already. It would be effective though because it would indicat the way a regional features can predominate in someways over International style.

I'll do it and see how it works out. Thanks for the suggestion.

--Amandajm 12:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)Nonna[reply]

Translation

Yes, it's me again..... or should I say (correctly) It is I! I don't speak Italian. I can read it just a little, but if you have an article that has been automatically translated, or written by someone for whom Enlish is a second (or third) language, I have an excellent grasp of my own language, its roots and it's possibilities. I also have an Italian/English Dictionary and a Latin/English Dictionary which comes in very handy. I had a little go at Procida, based on what was there, and left it for you to look at under that heading. If I can help, it would be a pleasure.

Nonna --Amandajm 23:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedrals

Hi Attilios. I notice you are still tidying up and have reduced some pics. Does that make it work better on different browsers or what? What I want to do is put in a little gallery under each region.

I tried to do it last night with Florence, Siena, Palermo and Milano. Tried and tried and couldn't make it work! I got the boxes and the info, but couldn't make the pics show in the boxes! would you like to have a try? Or tell me what I was doing wrong?

Nonna--143.238.241.122 09:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image source Image:TArdelli urlo.jpg

Could You please add a source page where it can be read that the image was created in Italy. Thanks. feydey 11:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proletarian Unity Party

Hi again, and sorry for the delayed answer. I had problems with a sentence which was not very clear in the PUP article, an dI rephrased it as "In January of 1977, the Manifesto and former-PSIUP affiliates left the party due to the failure in creating an all-left government". Was this the sense it had, or did I botch it? I could not really figure its exact meaning in Italian either... Dahn 11:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does this mean that they had agreed to forming a pan-left, or that they were simply dissappointed in the elections results? Dahn 11:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So then there is no need to rephrase it, unless both of our guesses are wrong. Dahn 11:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lampedusa

I have just done a copy-edit on the article and, since you were the most recent major contributor, I thought I should warn you! I was interested to see (at last) an explanation of Giuseppe Tomasi’s title, and intrigued to read that ‘the fauna and flora of Lampedusa are similar to those of North Africa.’ Does that mean that there were once gattopardi on the island? —Ian Spackman 13:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral page & St Andrews

Hey, the Cathedral Architecture of Western Europe is looking great, don't you think. I was hesiatnt to put in so many pics, but I think it works. I love the Palermo Cathedral pic..

On the score of St Andrews, i understan why you objected to my POV, but the sentence that you have replaced it with -

For visual reasons, the Communion Table was replaced by a Great Bible of 1539, when Henry VIII ordered that every church should have a bible in the English language. This is in keeping with the Sydney Anglican Church's emphasis on the Word of God as providing all that is needed for Salvation.

- is simply not true. The book wasn't put there for visual reason. It theology/Philosophy. You have no idea what the Sydney Dioces is like. Go and look at Anglicann Church in Sydney. Look at my additions and see what's been done. When the Syndney press (Sydney Morning Herald is the Australia-wide broadsheet) talk about the Sydney Mafia, they don't mean gun-toting Sicilian migrants. They mean gently spoken charismatic Evangelical churchmen.

So I gotta get onto that article again fast and express it better. Ciao! Nonna--Amandajm 09:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just noticed!! Sydney didn't exist when Henry made that proclamation. You silly man!

G'Day! Why is it that every time I turn my back on you, you sneak another Italian Cathedral onto that page! Yeah! Spoleto is fantastic as well! Gotta print out my son's maths homework! Ciao!

Ezzelino da Romano

Hi, Attilio. I did clean up some of the language (in actuality there wasn't a lot to do) and just wanted to let you know, as you had requested. You do quite well with English for a non-native speaker. I also, added a place for his father but haven't had the time to research him or make any additions. Regards, Steve... Stevenmitchell 10:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mori

I reverted your edits there. You see, Mori and Mohri are two different names, and it's a bad idea to mix the two together. WhisperToMe 13:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Basilica of San Domenico

Answer on my talk page JoJan 05:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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treni

Ciao Attilios. ho visto la tua bella traduzione della voce sulle E636 e ti faccio qualche appunto:

Su en.wiki la voce andrebbe indicata come FS class E636, per mantenere lo standard. Vedi ad esempio FS class E412
I nomi dei gruppi non hanno lo spazio tra "E" e le cifre, anche se quello di mettere uno spazio o un punto è un uso diffuso, è scorretto.
Se vuoi tradurne altre, su it:Lista dei rotabili italiani trovi l'elenco completo di quelli presenti

Ciao e per qualsiasi cosa chiedi it:Utente:Jollyroger - --Jollyroger 15:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sempre io. Le foto di www.leferrovie.it sono CC-BY-ND, non (C). Ciao --Jollyroger 16:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Il tag dovrebbe essere {{cc-by-nd-2.0}}{{cc-by-nd-2.0}}

--Jollyroger 16:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

St Nicholas of Bari

I had a look. What a fantastic church! Would you believe that in the 1960s I was teaching at the school of St Nicholas of Myra, in Penrith, west of Sydney. After that I went to teach at St Aidan's, Rooty Hill, where about 75% of the children were of migrant families, most of them Maltese. I had three Joe Vellas in my class.

Anyway... to get on! I will do a little editting on what you have written . I don't know what or even whether there is an English name for the nuns' gallery. There may be a French term which has passed into English, but I don't know of it. So we leave it in Italian, with your explanation, which is just fine.

One point, in English the full colon : is not employed between sections of a sentence. You can use a semi colon ; . The colon is usually only used when you have written the introduction to a list. Mostly, I think it's best if you just start a new sentence.

OK! I'll go and do some revision.

--Amandajm 12:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done! --Amandajm 13:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Attilios!

I haven't heard back whether you like what I did to your article on St Nicholas of Bari. Are you doing exams? Hey, you have another disgruntled person, has sent you a message! (disgruntled is a very good English word, don't you agree? I wonder what "gruntled" means? I don't think I would like to be gruntled!) I think you need to check out the program you use to do formatting, because, like I said, all sorts of strange things happened to the Cathedrals article! I just writing about "Poor Man's Bible". Hope to hear from you soon!

Nonna --Amandajm 10:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll check out some more cathedrals and images when I need more pics for this one. Hey, how about I check out the English grammar in the other article!

Nonna --Amandajm 11:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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(Arch)Bishoprics

I'm indeed not against the idea in principle, but only where it makes sense, not as a silly bannishment just because someone doesn't like matters ecclesiastical- then I would throw out sports teams, etc. etc. The case of Lyon is very different from Camerino, and probably most Italian dioceses (there are extremely many, hence generally extraordinarily small compared to other Catholic countries), as Lyon is already a rather large article, and its uniquely styled primate of primates one of the major archbishoprics in all Europe: both are important enough to clearly deserve separate articles, while Camerino is and seems to be staying little more then a stub even without a split; in the case of minor episcopal sees in France, no split is made either. A special case is when the bishops were major actors in a city/region's political history, as in prince-bishoprics. When in other cases a split off is justified from an otherwise substantial page, which may very well occur (major sees and cities), please follow the 'French' example by not naming it ecclesiastical history (which only makes sense as section title within a city article) but bishopric viz. archishopric, as it can then ideally also accomadtae later additions on the present church jurisdiction; a few such multi-subject diocesan articles already exist, but they seem rare. Fastifex 23:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've recieved your message, User:Attilios, and yes, I can see the reason for the moves and will help if I can. It's not about being anything against anything in particular, Fastifex, it's more about being against having too particular information based on a particular point of view in (voir overwhelming) an article that's supposed to be a general resumé. Please show some consideration and start new articles for such particular information - especially in the light of the fact that, as you note above, such articles are lacking. THEPROMENADER 23:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ecclesiastical history

Well, he did the same thing with a lot of French comumnes. The main problems as I see them are:

The text is a solid mass of indigestible information - I don't think even Fastifex makes any attempt to actually break it down into relevant sections etc.
There is a lot of totally irrelevant information (detailed names of all the names of the different wings of some long-since demolished boarding school etc)
There is a lot of information which is simply far too detailed for a general article on the commune. What Bishop X wrote to Bishop Y in 1549 probably didn't shape the city in any significant way.
The style and tone is completely un-Wikipedia-like and almost unreadable, and he doesn't seem to make any effort to fix that.

What would you like me to do about it exactly? Stevage 15:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you may wish to note:

Stevage 17:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia Cannalonga

Dear Attilios,

I created the wikipedia page to add information about my wifes home village, and I do not mind at all that other users are improving the page.

However, your modifications do not only make a complete mess, you also delete information that I find important. I hope you can in the future show some respect for others attempt to expand Widipedia.

Trond

Robert Kerman / R. Bolla

You seem to be removing information on Kerman's work as R Bolla, for example his appearance in Debbie Does Dallas. I'm fairly sure that more people have seen him in pornography than then sum total of all his cannibal movies. I have nothing against adding more on the Italian film career, but we shouldn't remove information on what he is more popularly known for. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I added it back, and hope the style is acceptable. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Orvieto

Agreed, your rework looks much better. I apologize for the formatting screw ups---personally I'm a big fan of "clear", as I think it can make articles look more professional, but in this case you're right about the blank space. I was going to go back and try to fix things by adding more content, but I've been laid up with what feels like the plague for the past several days, so thanks for at least fixing the appearance! —Ryan McDaniel 15:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tireless Contributor

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For continually defying the laws of attrition with your rate of contribution to Wikipedia, I award thee.Blnguyen

Good work with the Goldblatt article.Blnguyen | rant-line 07:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Vancouver Island

Hi Attilios. Thank you for your kind words. Actually, if you check all of the Vancouver Island articles, you'll see that they mention Canada in the very first line of each one. I appreciate the feedback! -- Juxtatype 05:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tino or Tino (island)

Hi! I wonder if it might be better to have the article—there’s one ready, waiting to be saved—at Tino? I really don’t see the point of the current redirect to Tina, and we have no other article of the same name. Cheers!—Ian Spackman 10:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I’ve made it Tino (island). Not a very interesting article; but then it’s not a very interesting island: a rather dull (possibly legendary) saint, a lighthouse, and not much else! —Ian Spackman 12:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lucca

Thanks for your message last week. I have just worked out how to reply to you, hence the delay. However I looked the infobox was overlapping the contents. I think I may have sorted it now, at least a bit. See what you think. Itsmejudith 21:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Goldblatt

Olympic swimming gold medallist Scott Goldblatt is with us as User:Sgoldblatt.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there

Did I forget the italics. Well, that is weird. I appreciate Guida's works but they sure don't drop me a sense of humour like the films with Edwige Fenech do. Probably due to the absence of Renzo Montagnani. If you wanna have a look, you may check my recent edits at Lilli Carati page too. Well, anyway...Ciao!--Behemoth 22:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's good to hear that you ain't asleep yet. You see, we don't have a particular attention in Italian cinema here at Wiki, so I had to put those further info on her filmography, for I assume none else of the users would bother to write separate articles on those films...--Behemoth 22:51, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will you care to initiate an article for Amatrice which one of the articles I started refers to? That is Sugo all'amatriciana --Behemoth 23:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Franco Uncini

No problem but, you should include Italy as a reference since most people outside of Italy don't know where Macerata is.

The Disquieting Muses

Good work on The Disquieting Muses and thanks for the kind words about the Metaphysical Interior articles! Justin Foote 23:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Some names of Croatian Communes were in bold because they had grad status : if you wish to change this, then it's your right under the GFDL, but please don't blame me for taking the trouble to make a navigational template where none existed before. Physchim62 (talk) 12:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Valentino Zeichen

You wrote on my talk page:

Mhhmhm... Why did you add the POV mark to Valentino Zeichen? Maybe did you suspect he wrote it by himself? Of course not. If you check the Internet you'll find a lot of reference to him. He publishes little, mainly due to his extravagant behaviour, but it weel respected by at least Italian literature establishment. Ciao! User:Attilios

The {{pov}} tag was not because I thought the article was written by its subject, but because it contains a number of point of view statements such as:

"and has been suggested that his true name would be Giuseppe Mario Moses, an almost certainly Jewish surname."

this statement needs a source and the speculation about whether it is a Jewish name is highly POV

"Zeichen's poetry has been praised for his quick catch on the reader, and the subtle sense of humour underlining it. He is considered among the finests poets today in Europe. A literary award entitled to him, the Premio Zeichen, is held every December in Rome: Zeichen himself is the only member of the jury."

Again no sources and highly POV. Who considers him amongst the finest poets in Europe? Who has praised his poetry's "quick catch"?

This is why I've tagged it as POV. Gwernol 19:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you unlink "Ariccia" in the article? It was not my link,but I'm just curious to know... Thanks Orbicle

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"Caresty"

Please see my question at Talk:Alghero#Caresty.3F. Seems to be your edit I am questioning. - Jmabel | Talk 23:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syracuse

Well, yea I should've bolded the Italian city as well. It's just to make the most likely search candidates stand out. I think that we should stick with the disambig page, because Syracuse, New York is much larger than Syracuse, Italy, and the University is an enormously likely search candidate, with 18,000 students and countless fans. What do you think? AdamBiswanger1 15:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right. However, the fact that Syracuse, USA, Syracuse, Italy and Syracuse University are so close in terms of search probability leads us towards a disambig page. (This is exactly what they're for). I'm not trying to say that Syracuse, USA is in any way superior to Syracuse, Italy, but the first 8 Google hits relate to NY. Of course by linking to the disambig page we're not preventing anyone from seeing the Italian city.-- AdamBiswanger1 15:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that what we are writing is far more than a cultural encyclopedia, its an encyclopedia of all knowledge. To use Google as a guide is not to turn Wikipedia into a search engine, but it is basing wikipedia on what people want to know, not what we want to tell them. Who is to decide what knowledge is more important, the few who write, or than many who read. I'm sure Britannica's Editorial Board would insist upon the former, though I assure you the latter is more inline with wikipedia's raison d'etre. If this decision were being made solely on the basis of Google hits, Syracuse NY would occupy the Syracuse page, and Syracuse Italy would be a link. But we do pay attention to the value of knowledge. As important as Siracusa has been in history (though certainly it has not been as important as other cities such as Athens, Rome or even Thebes), I just cannot see how it warrants completely taking over the page. I am not some red-state bush voting rube. I love classical history, my middle name is literally Achilles, and I plan on passing this down to my own children (who I hope to name Hector, Helen and Achilles). I am also a pragmatist, Google may not be completely objective, but I have seen nothing on these pages that approaches it.

You're arguing on a slippery slope that a trip to Syracuse, Italy would make you a better person than a trip to Syracuse, New York. You are calling opinions facts, and that is a dangerous path to follow, and one I intend to stay clear from. It is very clear cut that the Taj Mahal is of greater cultural importance than Michael Jackson. As you yourself pointed out (perhaps baited by me), it is much less clear whether Siracusa is of more importance than Thebes. Where along this continuum is the Syracuse/Siracusa dilemma? It is a question of primacy in this matter of the inteligencia (You and I) or the masses (those searching Google). The answer clearly lies in the murky middle, hence Syracuse should stay a disambiguation page.--Niro5 22:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC) (ps as a scholar of classical (and hopefully) modern history , you no doubt know that democracies put Socrates to death, and put Hitler in power, maybe a simple vote shouldn't answer this question? Unless of course we end up winning the vote ;))[reply]

I am so happy you finally agree with me! "Never said that Syracuse, NY is not notable. I'm sure here this has never been hinted." I assure you, that I am not playing the victim, and that this is not a discussion of notability. We both agree that both Syracuse's are notable, and hence we both agree that "Syracuse" should stay a disambiguation page. That simple.

We seem to be arguing different things. Tell me if I am wrong, but you are arguing that S,IT is more notable, while I am carefully arguing that both S,IT and S,NY are notable, and hence deserve a disambiguation page. Since you have already conceded the point that S,NY is notable, why can you not concede the point that it deserves disambiguation page? Frankly, I do not care which Syracuse is more important. And I do not care which Syracuse my Aunt Millie would prefer to visit. But if you concede that both cities are notable, why not switch your vote?--Niro5 22:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC) (ps I am most definitely not a lawyer, but when you are the youngest in a family of smart asses, you learn how to defend your ideas.)[reply]

Devil's Bridge

Please do not change the subject of an article. If you think other bridges known as "Devil's Bridge]] require separate pages, then move it to Devil's Bridge, Ceredigion and create a disambiguation page. — Dunc|☺ 17:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pizza pronunciation

Hi, can you please explain why you deleted this addition?

Verrazano

Our article is at Giovanni da Verrazano, and that's the spelling we should use in articles.--Pharos 08:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Verrazano" may sound ridiculous to an Italian, but this is the English Wikipedia, and the Verrazano name is by far best known to English speakers in the form of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge.--Pharos 09:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We explicitly have different standards than Britannica, in going by common names rather than "correct" ones. Please don't change the links when the article remains at Giovanni da Verrazano; instead, you may want to request a move. Thanks.--Pharos 10:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, but it is the encyclopedia of English-speaking people. We don't take a top-down approach here, telling readers the "proper" way to spell words. People from the US and Canada would naturally be the most interested in this man, considering he discovered large stretches of their coastlines, and so we should go with their usual spelling. The alternative, and its status in Italy, should certainly be given in his article, but the Wikipedia guideline for the most common English name is clear.--Pharos 10:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; It looks like you did a cut-and-paste move on Giovanni da Verrazano. Please do not do that. It seperates the editing history from the article, which is a violation of the GFDL. I'm going to go and fix it now. If you can't move it with the page-move feature, list it at requested moves. Tom Harrison ^Talk 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Fractions

Buongiorno... "fractions" is the wrong definition, too as it has no equivalent meaning in English. I chose township over hamlet because it means more to most English speakers (unfortunately, most think of Shakespeare when they hear the word "hamlet"). Essentially, the code needs to be changed to look either for the true translation (hamlet), or we could just stick with "Frazioni"; in either case, "fractions" is simply incorrect. Get back to me when you get a chance as to what you think the best way to handle this is. Ciao. Jim62sch 11:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another possibility would be to set it up as Hamlets. In any case, I stumbled accross the article while searching for random articles, and as there are good articles in Italian (naturally) and Spanish, and an interesting chronology in German (I read all three languages by the way -- Spanish the best), I wanted to do an English version of the article. Jim62sch 11:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it to "frazioni" (as you wiki to there, so readers can look it up). And, to make sure it works (I hope), I changed the infobox coding to:

frazioni = see [[Belluno#Frazioni|list]]

The Spanish article had less detail than I thought, so I'll be relying primarily on the Italian article. Jim62sch 12:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fra Angelico

Ciao Attilios!

I've left you a longish response on my talk page!

Nonna --Amandajm 04:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case you don't get around to checking it out, this is the sort of BS that I removed from the Fra Angelico Page. It came straight from Britannica. For this reason, I feel just a little offended atmy writing being referred to as bombastic. please find a politer word!

"The "pietistic" quality of Fra Angelico's work is in fact its predominant characteristic. The faces of his figures have an air of rapt suavity, devotional fervency and beaming esoteric consciousness, which is intensely attractive to some minds and realizes beyond rivalry a particular ideal— that of ecclesiastical saintliness and detachment from secular worry and turmoil. It should not be denied that he did not always escape the pitfalls of such a method of treatment, the faces becoming sleek and prim, with a smirk of sexless religiosity which hardly eludes the artificial or even the hypocritical; because of this, there are some who are not moved by his work. Even so, Fra Angelico is a notable artist within his sphere,......."

Nonna

Italian communes

Thanks for the explanations. Gioto 08:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sicily

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Automatic Category Inclusion?

Hi Attilos - I know you have done an excellent job adding all of the Italian Province templates. Now that it appears all provinces in Italy have been covered, I was thinking it would be a good idea to include the Category "Municipalities in the Province of ***" on each template so each town in the template will automatically be included in the category instead of having to be manually added. I tried it with {{Province of Ragusa}}, and it seemed to work. I put a post on the talk page of Talk:List of Sicilian municipalities#Automatic Category Inclusion?. -AKeen 19:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Style!

Of course I will, Thanks for giving me that advice Empty2005 01:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC) Cheers![reply]

Italian Communes Template

The discussion related to the new template is here, that's where I talked about some improvements I made to my version, including a fix for the 140px issue. Anyway, I think we should all accept the new template before to change it and use it (even if I think the current version is definitely ugly!). Ciao. --Angelo 01:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reggio Calabria

ciao! grazie del benvenuto =) può essere che la mia traduzione per "municipalities" al posto di circoscrizioni sia in effetti inadeguata, quindi grazie del chiarimento =) cmq in futuro penso che proverò ad ampliare l'articolo ...appena ho tempo e pazienza =P poi ho visto che hai fatto piazza pulita della galleria d'immagini, come mai? ciao e grazie ancora ;-) Salli 19:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Categorization Scheme

There is a lot of conversation going on about how Italian towns/cities/provinces should be categorized at Category_talk:Cities_and_towns_in_Italy. You might want to check it out and weigh in on the subject. There might be big structural changes. -AKeen 03:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Idw-pui

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Bianca Maria Visconti

I copyedited this article, pretty thoroughly if I do say so myself. However, since I'm assuming from your post to the talk page of that article that you put up the "needs copyediting" tag, I figured I'd let you know so you can look at the article and take the tag down if you see fit. --Natalie 04:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox answers

I did't understand what you actually meant. What other pictures are you referring to?
The coat of arms in small size can be set via the parameter "img_coa_small = yes".
See Wikipedia:Obtaining geographic coordinates. "mapx" is latitude, whereas "mapy" is longitude.

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Santa Teresa di Riva

Thank you so much for uploading the Santa Teresa di Riva coat of arms! I'm going to Santa Teresa di Riva for 3 weeks on Wednesday and when I return I hope to post many pictures. ^juppiter talk #c 16:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edmund Cardinal Szoka

Thanks for taking out the redundant categories in this article. In that same edit, the infobox was also removed. I found a mixed bag of cardinals that had them and those that did not. I have added it back, but wanted to let you know. -- MrDolomite | Talk 23:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Long overdue and scusi

Hi, and please excuse me for not replying sooner - I have been involved in several disputes that consumed most of the time I have had to edit, and I have also fulfilled my promise to handle the issue of the Moldavia article (which, as you can see, was quite the handful :)). I have checked the articles, and they look to be ok. Unfortunately, I do not have the time and dabate-free room needed to translate the 1994 elections article, and I also fear that I may lack expertise (some info looked completely unfamiliar to me). I will however look into it when I get done with stuff such as that on Talk:Transylvania (it's crazy out there); that is, unless you want to and have the time to start it. Keep in touch. Ciao. Dahn 00:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Aquileia

Hi, sorry for a slow reply, but I have been away from Wikipedia for a while.

Of course ecclesiastical history is always interesting (to some readers) in its own right and should be covered in Wikipedia. Sometimes it forms a very important part of the general history of a place, especially when the bishops were powerful figures (medieval Vercelli and Asti spring to mind).

I am quite sure that the Aquileia article ought to include the subject. But there were big problems. The section was so large as to overwhelm the rest of the article: rather as if a hundred thousand words on Roma città aperta were to be inserted into the article on Rome. The section was horribly out of date: it asserted that today Aquileia was in Austria. (Hence my rather intemperate comment about Jörg Haider, which was intended as a joke, of course.) Finally there was so much overlap with the existing text that I felt that incorporating the material really required a major job of editing.

(All this is part of the general problem of incorporating old encyclopedia articles into Wikipedia. Personally I prefer to read Britannica or Catholic Encyclopedia articles in their original, unaltered form rather than on Wikipedia. But that is another and longer story.)

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