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The Dalmatian pelican (Pelecanus crispus) is a bird in the family Pelecanidae. With a length of 160 to 183 centimetres (63 to 72 inches), a mass of 7.25 to 15 kilograms (16.0 to 33.1 pounds) and a wingspan of 245 to 351 centimetres (96 to 138 inches), it is the largest pelican species and one of the world's largest living flying birds. The Dalmatian pelican has a range spanning across much of central Eurasia, from the Mediterranean in the west to the Taiwan Strait in the east, and from the Persian Gulf in the south to Siberia in the north. It is a short-to-medium-distance migrant between breeding and overwintering areas. The Dalmatian pelican's preferred habitat is lakes, rivers, deltas and estuaries, and it feeds on various fish species such as the common carp and European perch. Like many pelicans, it is often silent, but can be vocal during the mating season, engaging in a wide range of guttural, deep vocalisations, including barks, hisses and grunts. This Dalmatian pelican was photographed in flight over the Danube Delta in Romania.Photograph credit: Charles J. Sharp

I will reply to most messages here, though I might reply on your talk page.

Archived talk

• Archive 1 contains questions archived: 16-4-04

ga:

I am looking for adminship on the Irish Wikipedia. There are things that need some tweaking that I would be willing to do. Ludraman 22:26, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Ludraman, as Gabriel Beecham is a bureaucrat on ga, he should be the one to make you a sysop. Please ask on the Irish Wikipedia. Angela 13:57, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I moved this from m:Requests for permissions in case you hadn't seen it. Angela. 07:06, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

Righto - thanks. LUDRAMAN | T 19:09, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Tutorial

Thanks for reformatting this tutorial page. Now it's actually an example of good talk formatting instead of just claiming to be. :-) Isomorphic 22:59, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks - don't ya just love the conversation!!! LUDRAMAN | T 02:20, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

pelletization of sodium hydroxide

I would like you to give information on pelletization of sodium methoxide and pottasium hydroxide.

Can't help ya there. LUDRAMAN | T 13:31, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Fac's

They shouldn't be on the articles. We discussed putting the actual featured notice there, and most people were against it. Putting a candidate notice is even worse IMO. It doesn't look good and there is no need for it. Dori | Talk 17:05, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)

• Do you put them on the talk page instead? LUDRAMAN | T 17:16, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Yes, I've been moving them there. Dori | Talk 17:28, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)

Tutorial (response)

Thanks for the note. Just a couple days before I stumbled upon the project I had mentioned to my brother that I was thinking of trying to work on documentation for contributors, since I was starting to feel comfortable, but since I'd only been here since late Feb, I could still remember some of the struggles of being a newbie. So helping with the Tutorial was a perfect match. I have some more ideas about a couple things to add and move, but I'll put them on the Talk page when they're firmer in my head. In most areas I chose to 'be bold' (I was starting stubs my first two days here, had at least 100 edits within 4-5 days, and recently topped 2000). However, with the tutorial, I think it's better to be collaborative initially on the talk page, at least in terms of structural issues--as for the actual content I usually just go ahead an add things I think will be helpful. Niteowlneils 03:12, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Newcomers' Village Pump

Thanks very much for making Wikipedia:Newcomers' village pump (particularly liked questions at the top). Often, these things get talked about and agreed to be a Good Thing, and then nobody makes them. So thanks for making it :) --Camembert

I'm glad to contribute. Some people are saying it should be renamed, because it implies newcomers cant ask quesions at the village pump, and should be called Newcomers Help desk. What do you think? LUDRAMAN | T 17:50, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Well, looks like that one's been sorted out now. --Camembert

Thank you

Ludraman: Thank you for your support and the kind words on my adminship. Cecropia 03:23, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Irish breakfast

I don't want to open old wounds but please read Talk:Irish breakfast Jooler

thanks

Ludraman,

Thanks for your vote in re my admin nomination. Since I don't recall seeing your name in and aroudn the crypto corner, you are one of those I was surprised were aware of the goings on there. But thanks again, regardless.

I note that you have wide interests, but not apparently in crypto. As such, I would like to see if I can entice you into a small project. There is some need for a non specialist eye to look over some of the general crypto articles (not the mathematical ones, nor the algorithm descriptions and such) but the general ones. The technical ones are easier to do. The problem is that an author is often too close to a subject to see where the account is still obscure to the general reader. Comments on narrative arc (or a missing one), obscure patches, over use of too specialized jargon, basic opacity, and such. In return, I'd offer to lend a similar eye for such articles as you think need such a review.

Perhaps a WP exchange across the pond will be possible?

ww 19:39, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sure I would be willing to review them. Which pages do you want me to look at?

About the support for nomination, I took a brief look at some of your contributions and you seemed to deserve adminship. Perehaps if you could take a loook at the Irish Breakfast article and its talk page. There are some disputes going on and a new approach from a new editor would be helpful. Thanks. LUDRAMAN | T 21:35, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

L, Sorry it took me so long to notice your reply. I expected to hear from you on my Talk page, which is on my watchlist. Oh well...

Thanks for being willing to lend an eye. There's a sort of analytic list of articles at Topics in Cryptography which gives a reasonable choice. The technical ones are easier to do as the audience is, in a sense, oneself (at least for crypto types); it's the general ones where clunk and fog (for the general reader) can't be seen. I'm hoping to clear away some of that, so comments on obscurity, or what???, or I think I understood but now I'm not so sure, and such would be most helpful. Typos are less important as they shouldn't interfere with understanding, though they're perhaps as difficult to notice if one is 'over familiar' with an article.

You might try secure channel or diplomatic bag or Ultra or Magic or Purple or key. That should give you a choice.

I'll take a look at Irish Breakfast and see what I can do. Since I didn't know there was one such, I guess I'm an ideal non specialized eye, eh?

ww 17:02, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

L, I've left comments in re Irish breakfast on the Talk page. Let me know whether this is what you have in mind. You will note that I took no stand on any controversial question, eg pudding or not. So perhaps I'll be safe from partisan action. ww 20:39, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hey Ww (is that short for anything?). Thanks for your comments on the Irish brekkie page. Sorry about the delay in looking at the crypto articles. Iam am just getting around to it now. BTW could you take a look at Prisoners and hats puzzle. I made it earlier todya about a puzzle I know but I think it's very unclear. I haven't even had time to add the solution yet, I am leaving people hanging in the balance! Cheers! LUDRAMAN | T 02:09, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Let's see. After brushing up on what exactly is all this cryptography stuff, I looked at Autokey cipher. Very interesting and explained nicely. I edited what I thought to be a slightly unclear bit and will drop a note on the talk page. I will definitely look at more crypto articles. For now, however, I think some sleep would be in order... ;-) LUDRAMAN | T 03:08, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

L, I give up on counting the damned :. Sorry about that and about dustbinning the indentation...

I've checked into the puzzle and left some comments.

The ww is merely initals, not an attempt to claim 2/3 of www.

Please don't feel any need to actually edit any of the crypto stuff. The idea is to find a guin err vict err hmm volunteer who is not a crypto fan who can point up unclarity and obscurity so it can be fixed; most especially in the 'general' articles. The technical ones should probably be expected to be unclear to the unitiated, I suppose. A note on the relevant Talk page will be fine (see Talk:Enigma for an example above and beyond the call from jwr).

On the other hand, should you be overwhelmed by the urge to correct a typo or launch into a revision of some technical bit, well who am I to say you nay? Clearly nobody.

I too am suffering delays in replying to you as I've not watchlisted your talk page. ww 16:31, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

YOU DITCHED THE INDENTATION! Nah only messing. Its okay. As I said, the autokey cipher article is clear. Haven't got a chance to look at anything else yet - my internet has crashed! LUDRAMAN | T 16:44, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

L, Haven't heard from you in some time, and so thought I'd drop you a note. The crypto corner is now the proud possessor of its own Project (WikiProject Cryptography) and there is a list there of several general articles which might someday qualify as featured. They might be candidates for review, per our earlier.

In addition, you might find some amusement/bemusement/outrage, as one from Erie, in the discussion re cypher v cipher. Since you folks have produced some of the most glittering writers in the language, you surely get a place at the spellyng table. Chime in or not as you wish.

Hope things are going well. ww 18:12, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Confusing statement on requests for admin

On Wikipedia:Requests for adminship it says:

1. Oppose for all the above reasons. LUDRAMAN | T 17:09, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
   • Note: This account is obviously a sockpuppet. What new user's first edit would be on a MediaWiki page?

and I read it and thought "who the heck thinks Ludraman is a sock puppet?" and I had to go through the history to realize ohhhhhhh... that's Ludraman adding to his comment and he thinks Ryan is a sockpuppet... I get it now. But I thought you might want to fix it, since it looks similar to times in the past when people have added comments to votes to say that the voter is most likely a sockpuppet. Man... I'm being pretty confusing myself. Hope you can figure out what I'm trying to say. moink 23:22, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Okay - I'll change it! Thanks for the note! LUDRAMAN | T 01:33, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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AMA co-ordinator election is now on

You may now vote for user:Ed_Poor or user:Alex756 in the first ever AMA co-ordinator election. Follow the instructions on Wikipedia:AMA Coordinator Election Procedure for more details.

AMA members who wish to abstain from voting must also e-mail wikipedia_ama_voting@yahoo.co.uk with notice of that intent.

To clarify anything before voting, ask user_talk:Zanimum or user_talk:Jwrosenzweig on their talk pages.

AMA members have until April 30, at 11:00:00 EST to vote. -- user:zanimum

• Thanks. LUDRAMAN | T 15:44, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Your vote has been counted. Jwrosenzweig 15:53, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

ga adminship

Hi Ludraman - I've noticed that you haven't done much stuff on ga.wikipedia recently (like everyone, it seems), but are you still interested in being a sysop? -- Kwekubo 00:59, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Good point. I haven't been focusing much attention on the ga wiki, i've been spending most of my (limited) time here. I'll probably remove the request, and consider it if I go back editing majorly there. LUDRAMAN | T 15:55, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

blockquote tag

from the pump

Is there any wiki-markup equivelent of the <blockquote> html tag? It's useful for song lyrics and quotations, but i know it's better to use wiki markup. LUDRAMAN | T 01:43, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you start a line with a colon (:), it indents the content of that line, similarly to <blockquote>,. This paragraph is on a line started with a colon Nohat 02:02, 2004 Apr 14 (UTC)

columning

from the pump

Is there any way of making a page split into two columns? LUDRAMAN | [[ |T]] 03:19, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you want two columns of text, then you could just use a one-row two-cell table. If you need elements to match horizontally, then you'd need a many-row table of course. fabiform | talk 06:12, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Request for AMA assistance

We have received an anonymous request for AMA assistance from an IP address, I have directed that individual to contact me if they wish not to create a Wikipedia account. If you are interested in helping please let me know and if I hear from this individual I will try and put you in contact. See Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance. Thank you. — © Alex756 03:06, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Happy birthday

You don't have Internet access right now, but I want to wish you a happy birthday all the same. :) Neutrality 17:05, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Simple questions

Hello Ludraman,

    I have just discovered the Wikipedia for myself.

It is amazing resource. I am considering to use some information on my website.

    I would like to take a look into the set of live examples of how people use Wikipedia information and it's articles at their web sites.
     Can you point me to those?

Would like to get access to Wikipedia forums. Seems that it is not on the surface - to click the button and get into the forum. Thank you very much for your feedback.

Boris Lifschutz mail@fcigeneral.com

Sarnath picture

Hi, I was working on the captions for the Buddhism article and wondered if you had some more information about Image:Sarnath.jpg. It would be good to include on the image description page. I couldn't find the picture when I looked at hindubooks.org, but perhaps you know just where to look. Thanks! -- ke4roh 00:27, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

To be honest, I wasn't doing a lot of work on the article itself, just scanning sites for pictures needed by a range of articles. I can't really help you. Sorry. LUDRAMAN | T 08:29, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hope your Internet connection problems are sorted out! Is Eircom your telephone service provider and/or ISP? (see Talk:Eircom). zoney ███ talk 13:20, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

No, we have satellite broadband (we're not near enough to a cable broadband exchange) but that wasn't the problem. I was away for a good while and when I came back my computer and wireless card had been broken. Now I'm back on a different pc (no, mac) but on dial up. In a week or two I'll have broadband back. Long story short, I will soon be more or less back to my old Wikipedian self. LUDRAMAN | T 15:29, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Press release

Since you showed interest in press releases on the help desk, I just wanted to make sure I kept you up-to-date on this. I'm hoping to get the 1,000,000-article press release written by 7 September, then allow a week for translation, as we should reach the milestone mid-September. Right now we're working at Wikimedia press releases/One million Wikipedia articles if you're interested in helping to write it. --Michael Snow 23:44, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

CMUCL

I'm afraid that by the time I saw your message, this article had fallen out of the restorable zone. I deleted lots of pages yesterday, so I can't fully remember this one, but from my comment I suspect that it was so short on context that it was not possible for me to make sense of the content.

Stub articles, especially in the fields of computing and computer games may well make perfect sense to their authors, but seem near-gibberish to a reader unless the context and relevant links are clear. I always try to save a non-junk article if I can make sense of it, but in this case I may have made a wrong call - sorry. jimfbleak 06:18, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Adminship

You're very welcome! --Merovingian✍Talk 23:16, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)

What I have to say

Hey Ludraman, I noticed you supported my adminship and then switched to neutral, asking what I had to say. I'm not sure what you're looking for, but I can briefly explain what the present conflict is about (one of the RfC's posted about me was from months ago). The more current one is over the Bush article. To put it briefly, there was a dispute over a section of the article, which I felt was unneeded and if present should be short and to the point, long enough as the article already is. Kevin baas refused to discuss the issues and instead favored a poll. In the poll between a short and a detailed version (and some others), most people preferred the detailed one. So I accepted longer coverage, but nevertheless felt it needed more work, adding of counterbalancing info and tweaks for neutrality, which I made. However, a couple of users declared that the poll result meant that the text was fixed and reverted every edit I tried to make to it. I protested that in no way should the poll be construed as fixing it in stone, and polls are non-binding anyway, and I was working off the voted-for version. I contacted Gzornenplatz, who would discuss, and asked what he disliked, and we worked out an agreeable version. But then that was reverted too, and then Gzornenplatz joined in, believing the poll bound the text. Every edit I made would be reverted with a dismissive comment about how "consensus" had been reached and I was acting "unilaterally". This disagreement may be going to mediation.

Unfortunately, this recently began developing into a ForestFire, with the users in question then going after my edits on other articles, following my contributions. In one case an editorial disagreement with Ruhrjung, who has called me delusional [1] because of my resistance to what I perceive as negatively biased edits about America (see User:Ruhrjung#Anti-American bias), was then joined by these others and exacerbated. I won't detail further that mess.

I hope that answers your concerns somewhat. Since I am withdrawing my nomination anyway, I will not be putting you in the awkward position of deciding how to vote now. Thanks for your interest. Cheers, VV 06:30, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The Den

Thanks for fixing up The Den page POV. Was reliving my youth a bit too much there, I think...

As a 16-channel lander (cable) I was comparing The Den of my childhood (not very long ago, really) to BBC/ITV/etc stuff. Forgot Ireland was broke then, so The Den was actually professional :-) Kiand 22:20, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

True, but you have to admit a fluffy pencil case (last prize on one of the quizzes a number of years ago) is a bit poor :-)

I'm going to divide it out so I can cover the seperate puppets, expiditions, competitions etc a bit better. The Den was a part of my childhood, a big part at that, so I think it deserves a big page

Adminship

You're welcome, good luck. Andre 21:11, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You told me to burn things

"I heard Ludraman came to Wikipedia in the wheel-well of an Aer Lingus jet. Ludraman told me to burn things": tehse are both jokes from the US TV show The Simpsons.

% At the bar, Moe suggests Homer use a leprechaun to get rid of the curse.

Homer: Leprechaun?  Don't they live in Ireland?
Moe:   Yeah, but they come over here in the wheel wells of Aer Lingus jets.
Carl:  You know, I was hexed by a troll, and a leprechaun cured that right up.
Lenny: Hey, you know what's even better is Jesus.  He's like six leprechauns.
Carl:  Yeah, but a lot harder to catch.  Go with a leprechaun.
 -- "Treehouse of Horror XII"

% Meanwhile, Ralph [Wiggum] is giving Bart a tour of his back garden.

Ralph: This is my swing set.  This is my sandbox. I'm not allowed to
      go in the deep end.  [points to large rock] That's where I saw
      the leprechaun!
Bart: [sarcastically] Right, a leprechaun.
Ralph: He told me to burn things.
Bart: [unsure] Uh huh...
 --"This Little Wiggy"

-- orthogonal 01:49, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Oh yeah - now I remember... JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 09:29, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Re:Gmail Invite

Sure, I just got 6 (again...) I just need your email address. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 20:29, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Okay, it's on its way. I have no clue how ppl get invites, neither do many other people. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 20:35, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No problem, have fun. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:43, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Tu tienes 14 anos? Muy Bueno!

I'm turning 13 in two weeks myself. BTW, I think it's supposed to be -- "Hola. Me llamo John Collison. Tengo 14 anos" (with the accents of course) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 20:34, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I know but I'm using a mac and I dunno how to get accents! PS isnt "soy John Collison" correct? That's what we were taught in Spanish! JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 20:39, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Should be Apple-letter or something like that. BeOS for PowerPC does that anyway.

I was kind of surprised to see you're 14. You're a year or two off the "angry teenage" phase that makes you do things like my revert war over the letter u in the word flavour :-) Kiand 22:13, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

That's kind of weird...I'm not sure if "soy John Collison" is correct -- I suppose that would mean I am John Collison. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:33, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Slot Cars

That wasn't a judgement as to its notability (if it was, it would have had to go through VFD), just its content. I generally only delete things if they only have one or two sentences and contain less than three facts, and that only had two. Ambi 00:40, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Non POV

I think you're taking the NPOV thing a little far - are we to strip the words 'talented' from nearly every article in wikipedia? Average Earthman 08:25, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ryanair

I prefer the new graph on passengers. However, you mention in the notes that the graph is easier for editing. Is this easier for editing the graph or the surrounding text? The approach of using Excel to produce graphs and then taking an image of that graph does produce a better graph, but I don't know how somebody else can easily change the graph without the original spreadsheet. I used a timeline because it meant that anybody could alter the script and so amend the graph without the need for starting from scratch. Any comments/tips MarkS 13:49, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

• Thanks for the update on my page. I must admit that I do prefer your graph and I do agree that getting rid of the timeline script will make it easier for newbies to follow the main text. Thanks for the graph. MarkS 17:48, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See also

The format of:

:''See also:'' [[subject]]

is preferred/optional for short articles without sections. This goes for external links also. This has been standardised on for the Irish town articles. It looks better. zoney ♣ talk 00:21, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

COTW See also

Why did you remove the links to other COTW projects from the Television Show COTW page? I think all COTW projects should work together to reach their intended audience. Please reply on my talk page. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 07:40, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

I noticed the template too late and until now I was unaware you put it there. Sorry. Thanks for the template. It makes adding new pages far easier. But then again, that's what they're supposed to do. :) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 18:48, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

That's ok. Ya, that's why I made it: I think there's going to be an influx of specialist COTWs and is easier to add them. JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 18:55, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

URGENT: Opposition to "Sam Spade": See User:Spleeman/Sam Spade

See a critic's tracking of SamSpade's activities on Wikipedia at User:Spleeman/Sam Spade Vote "NO", or reverse your vote, even at this late hour. This is criticle (and critical) information! IZAK 10:13, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See: User:Spleeman/Sam Spade#Political bias:

• From Sam's own user page: User:Sam_Spade/Theoretical_Biases
• Removes references to groups such as the KKK as "right-wing" [2]
• Attempts to sugarcoat racist views [3]
• The claim the Geli Raubal was Hitler's mistress is just that, a claim [4].
• Wants Hitler labeled as a socialist on the communism page (see Talk:Communism)
• Insists on including his personal theories regarding a relationship between nazism and Chinese communism in nazism article:
  • User_talk:Andries#Nazism.2FChina
  • Talk:Nazism#China
• From Talk:Socialism:
  • "I intend to do what I always have, which is insist that the Nazi's were socialist because... they were." (Sam Spade 00:32, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC))
• Called another editor a "fascist" (Talk:Socialism#protection). This is similar to his attempts to try to provoke me by implying that I was a nationalist, or not an anarchist:
  • "Enforcing american spelling is a sign of nationalism, and would therefore seem to suggest your not an anarchist? Or perhaps your a "anarcho-nationalist"? ;p" (Sam Spade 08:06, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC), User_talk:Spleeman#Nationalism)
  • "Censorship isn't very anarchist" (Sam Spade 23:25, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC), Talk:Anarchism/Archive10#deleting_links)
• More on belief in non-racial eugenics: Why Sam is Right Wing (a list by User:Stopthebus18)
  • Stopthebus18: "People (including our country) have done horrible things in the name of eugenics." (StoptheBus18 16:02, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
  • Sam Spade: "Seems to work in Singapore. Bad things have been done in the name of all sorts of medicine, but we don't stop going to the doctor, do we?" (Sam Spade 17:21, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
• Guess what everybody!!! "The attempt to paint them [the Nazis] as "reactionaries" is a propagandistic fraud." (Sam Spade 16:11, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC), Talk:Nazism) Wow! You learn something new everyday.... Not.
• Hmm. For some reason, Sam doesn't want anybody to know that white-supremacist Wolfgang Droege was involved in drug trafficking [5].

Irish town stubs

The item that requires most attention, in my opinion, is the recently created stubs, which are mainly Dublin towns and suburbs. See the "related changes" on List of towns in the Republic of Ireland, go back more than 7 days. The CGorman newpages are substub, as are some of the ones I've recently standardised (switching category, adding Irish, formatting). All these changes can be seen by clicking "Related Changes" on that page.

The articles do or should follow the following format:

'''Townname''' (''Ainmbaile'' in [[Irish language|Irish]])
is a town in [[Countyname]], [[Republic of Ireland]],
located in/near/northof/southof placearea in [[Ireland]].

Main part of article – add any history, then sights/architecture, then road and rail connections.

:''See also:'' [[List of towns in the Republic of Ireland]]
{{geostub}} (if a stub)
[[Category:Towns in Countyname]]

There will eventually be 32 categories for towns in Ireland, following the format of Category:Towns in Cork. Dublin has a slightly different wording - Category:Towns and suburbs in Dublin. These are all subcategories of Category:Towns of Ireland.

I will also continue to work through the county pages, making sure they have a list of the main towns, and transcribing that to the master list.

zoney ♣ talk 19:37, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[[Irish language|Irish]] of course, just an error on my part! zoney ♣ talk 22:46, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Dis-ambiguation problem

Why did you copy-paste Kerry (disambiguation) into Kerry?? Most registered Wikipedians don't accept copy-paste page moves. 66.245.64.202 21:04, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Because

• Kerry already existed so I couldn't use the move this page feature
• The page history of the disambig wasn't really important
• It's not a straight copy-paste, I made a few changes

JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 22:07, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Graph

Hi there,

Apologies, but I removed your graph from Ireland after I realised it is Republic of Ireland only. Perhaps you could add it to that page instead?

zoney ♣ talk 20:45, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Vote on Sept. 11

Hi, thanks for your vote about the title for September 11, 2001 attacks. But the vote is in two parts. You voted in the part that is now closed. The run-off is still open. Maurreen 22:25, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

IRC

IRC

I'm proxied out from IRC here..

However, remind anyone that I'm in Dublin, able to help, and contactable by email.

Kiand 20:17, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cheers :-)

Thanks mate. I'm so busy with Aussie articles I'm not sure what I could contribute to Literature articles. I kind of think all my stuff would be POV reviewing type material. But I think your project is tops! Keep up the good work. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:38, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Email

Sent you an email, let me know if you don't get it. zoney ♣ talk 22:56, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RFA

Ludraman, you are now on RFA. You should accept your nomination there and answer the standard questions.

zoney ♣ talk 11:26, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)