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Problem with WP:RS and WP:NPOV

This article has sources only from the fan pages of Olympiacos ([1] [2] [3]). Αlso the creator of the article removed text based in reliable, published sources and called to restore it. --IM-yb (talk) 22:57, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't remove any text, I made a footnote which includes everything, why use 4 sources to support the same fact? Anyroad, I restored two of them. The other sources I used have nothing to do with WP:NPOV, they were used to support DATES and FACTS and not opinions. This source [4] is based on Greek newspapers of the 50s, referring to the foundation and the early history of the department. If there is another source from elsewhere, I would gladly add it to the article. The most important is that kokkina.gr and gavros.gr ARE NOT FAN PAGES, they are sports/news websites with Olympiacos being their main interest. These sites are run BY JOURNALISTS NOT FANS. It's obvious that they support Olympiacos and they are not objective, but I could say exactly the same thing for websites that claim to be objective, but are in fact being financed by presidents of certain clubs. In any case, I repeat that these sources where used to support FACTS and DATES and not opinions. If someone finds POV elements on 4 lines of an introduction, I rest my case. Gtrbolivar (talk) 15:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	This article has sources only from the fan pages of Olympiacos ([http://kokkina.gr/%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AC-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B3%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%86%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%BF-%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BF-%CF%84%CE%BC%CE%AE/ ] [http://www.gavros.gr/content/basketball/104044-thrylos-kai-sto-mpasket-gynaikwn ] [http://www.redsagainsthemachine.gr/articles/140804/gynaikeio-mpasket-toy-olympiakoy-1952 ]). Αlso the [[User:Gtrbolivar\|creator]] of the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olympiacos_Women%27s_Basketball&type=revision&diff=687066923&oldid=686280245 removed] text based in reliable, published sources and called to restore it. --[[User:IM-yb\|IM-yb]] ([[User talk:IM-yb\|talk]]) 22:57, 26 October 2015 (UTC)		This article has sources only from the fan pages of Olympiacos ([http://kokkina.gr/%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AC-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B3%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%86%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%BF-%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BF-%CF%84%CE%BC%CE%AE/ ] [http://www.gavros.gr/content/basketball/104044-thrylos-kai-sto-mpasket-gynaikwn ] [http://www.redsagainsthemachine.gr/articles/140804/gynaikeio-mpasket-toy-olympiakoy-1952 ]). Αlso the [[User:Gtrbolivar\|creator]] of the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olympiacos_Women%27s_Basketball&type=revision&diff=687066923&oldid=686280245 removed] text based in reliable, published sources and called to restore it. --[[User:IM-yb\|IM-yb]] ([[User talk:IM-yb\|talk]]) 22:57, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

			: I didn't remove any text, I made a footnote which includes everything, why use 4 sources to support the same fact? Anyroad, I restored two of them. The other sources I used have nothing to do with [[WP:NPOV]], they were used to support DATES and FACTS and not opinions. This source [http://www.redsagainsthemachine.gr/articles/140804/gynaikeio-mpasket-toy-olympiakoy-1952] is based on Greek newspapers of the 50s, referring to the foundation and the early history of the department. If there is another source from elsewhere, I would gladly add it to the article. The most important is that kokkina.gr and gavros.gr ARE NOT FAN PAGES, they are sports/news websites with Olympiacos being their main interest. These sites are run BY JOURNALISTS NOT FANS. It's obvious that they support Olympiacos and they are not objective, but I could say exactly the same thing for websites that claim to be objective, but are in fact being financed by presidents of certain clubs. In any case, I repeat that these sources where used to support FACTS and DATES and not opinions. If someone finds POV elements on 4 lines of an introduction, I rest my case. [[User:Gtrbolivar\|Gtrbolivar]] ([[User talk:Gtrbolivar\|talk]]) 15:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)