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The result of the vfd discussion started on March 9 is keep. The discussion is archived at [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Darth Traya]]. Please be advised a new Star Wars wiki has started on wikicities which is in need of articles. :-) --[[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:07, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)


== Other Trayas ==
== Other Trayas ==


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:Very reasonable, and indeed, much stronger than most speculations in the Star Wars backstory. I'll strengthen the wording. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 23:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:Very reasonable, and indeed, much stronger than most speculations in the Star Wars backstory. I'll strengthen the wording. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 23:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

As i understand it Kreia is Master Kae, but at no point is she "neutral". The only Neutral Jedi is Luke.
::As I understand it, Kreia is Master Kae, but at no point is she "neutral". The only Neutral Jedi is Luke. ::--[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=204.57.104.6|Anonymous]

:::What on Earth are you talking about? Luke, being 'neutral'? The closest he ever comes anywhere near such a stance is in some of Zahn's books, and possibly the New Jedi Order series (which I have yet to bring myself to read.) Now, if you wish a neutral character, look at Jorj Car'Das, or some of the monks on Tatooine. But Luke? pfft. Light side all the way. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 17:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

The result of the vfd discussion started on March 9 is keep. The discussion is archived at [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Darth Traya]]. Please be advised a new Star Wars wiki has started on wikicities which is in need of articles. :-) --[[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:07, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

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Other Trayas

I understand that it was possible if you chose the right options in KOTOR II that you could get Atris to become totally corrupt and claim to be Darth Traya before you killed her. Is this true, and if it is, should it be included in the article? Also I see a facsinating parallel with a character from Zahn's "Visions of the Future" (Car'Das specifically). Anyone care to follow up? -- Maru Dubshinki 01:22 AM Sunday, 20 March 2005


Master Kae

I added a small notion on how it is suspected that Kreia, who claims to be Revan's first Master, and Kae, which is claimed by Disciple to be Revan's first Master, may be the same person. Evidence:

Disciple: "As a Padawan, Revan was trained by Master Kae, before she was exiled. Strange, I do not recall who Revan's master was after that. And it is said that he went to his first - and final - master to learn how to leave the order entirely, as she had."

Kreia: "He came to me, yes. Both before and after, before Revan knew himself. And after, in the times when Revan was coming into his own and learning he was more than he had been told. At one time, Revan was my Padawan. In times past, long ago. But Revan, when he had learned all he could, had other masters... that fool Zhar, and other Jedi on other planets. He learned from each. But in the end, he turned back to me. When he realized there was nothing more to be learned from the Jedi - except how one could leave them forever."

Kreia and Kae share the same gender and Padawan, and they were both exiled from the Jedi order. It seems quite obvious that they are the same person, yet it is still disputed.

It seems Master Kae was exiled from the Jedi Order, then took the name Kreia as she turned to the 'neutral' side of the force. When she was corrupted on Malachor V, she became Darth Traya. --Imperialles

Very reasonable, and indeed, much stronger than most speculations in the Star Wars backstory. I'll strengthen the wording. --maru 23:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it, Kreia is Master Kae, but at no point is she "neutral". The only Neutral Jedi is Luke. ::--[1]
What on Earth are you talking about? Luke, being 'neutral'? The closest he ever comes anywhere near such a stance is in some of Zahn's books, and possibly the New Jedi Order series (which I have yet to bring myself to read.) Now, if you wish a neutral character, look at Jorj Car'Das, or some of the monks on Tatooine. But Luke? pfft. Light side all the way. --maru 17:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

The result of the vfd discussion started on March 9 is keep. The discussion is archived at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Darth Traya. Please be advised a new Star Wars wiki has started on wikicities which is in need of articles. :-) --Mgm|(talk) 09:07, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)