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Hurrian-Aryan links

Hurrians were an Armenian tribe which migrated west from their homeland around the 3rd millennium BC. "Har"an was the capital of the Hurrians. "Har"-minni is the alternative way of saying "Ar"mani, which the "H" is silent and its pronounced as "Ar"mani. To this day Assyrians and Persians call Armenians by "Armani" (aka Armani-Subartu or Subarian-Hurrian-Nairian) from the 2300 BC Akkadian inscriptions referring to them as Armani. Some scholars reveal that Hurrians are the same as Armani-Subarians. The land of Ararat or the Armenian Highland is the home of the "Aryan"(Indo-Europeans) people. Armenians refer to themselves as "Aryaee" (Aryan) in their language. The root word "Ar" meaning Sun, Light, Fire (the same as the word "Hurri/Hur") which is used in a lot of words such as Ararat, Aratta, Armenia, Armeni, Aryan, Armens, Arev, etc etc.

“ These are some "Ancient Records" that will reveal the Armenians ancient history:

• Artatama's (Armenian name with 'Arta' prefix) title is "king of the Hurri", yet again reveals the Hurrian-Aryan links (note: not to mention linguists who say Hurrian language is far from complete)

• T. V. Gamkrelidze and V. V. Ivanov, The Early History of Indo-European Languages, Scientific American, March 1990 (they reveal that Armenian Highland and Armenian language is the root of Aryan-IE)

• Tutmoses III of Egypt (1500 BC) mentions the people of "Ermenen" paying tribute when he held his court at Ninevah, and says that in their land "heaven rests upon its four pillars." (note: Tutmose III was the first Pharaoh to cross the Euphrates to reach the Armenian Highlands)

• Old Persian name "Armin" meant "dweller of the garden of Eden" (Persians also used this form Armina for Armenia)

• Menua, king of Urartu (our Khaldi tribe cousins) mentions the "Armeni" native in the "land of Ari" (Ariyan)

• Sumerian inscription "Haya" as early as 3000 BC way before "Hayasa" of Hittite inscription 1400 BC

• Akkadian inscriptions from as early as 2400 BC mention the "Armani" (aka Armani-Subartu or Arme-Subria or Hurrians) near Lake Van (note: To this day Assyrians (direct descendents of Akkadians) refer to Armenians by this form 'Armani')

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Tigran the Great's crown (look here Armenians for his image) is exactly of the "Hurri"-Mitanni seal with the 2 eagles and sun with the 8 (number of eternity) rays. Hurri-Mitanni kings names like Artatama translates to "most righteous", which the first part of the word Arta (this prefix persists in Armenian to this day, but not found in Kurds or Persians anymore) means righteous in Armenian. It is interesting to point out aso that Artatama's (Armenian Aryan-IE name) title was "King of the Hurri", which yet again reveals that Hurrians are linked with Aryans. Tusratta translates to "ten chariots", and Tus is Ten in Armenian. Hurri/Hur the very word used now in Armenian, was the same word and meaning in "Hurri"-Mitanni times.

Many Armenian (Aryan) words in Sanskrit

http://www.tacentral.com/erebuni/2ndwave.asp 12,000 year history of Armenia

Armenian is a separate branch of the Indo-European language family, though it has similarities to languages as far flung as Indian Sanskrit, Persian, Old Greek (Ponti) and Aramaic. The largest of the language families, the Indo-European "tree" is now believed to have sprung from the Armenian Highlands. Developing into sub-branches by around 7000 BC, Indo-European (also known as "Hindo-Aryan") peoples broke off into two main sub-groups: Greek-Armenian and Indo-Iranian. Around 4000 BC, these ethnic groups further subdivided into the Greek-Armenian, Indian Sanskrit, and the Iranian languages. 75.4.219.115 20:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC) User:Ararat_arev

http://www.tacentral.com/mythology.asp?story_no=3

The Armenian language is a part of the Indo-European (Indo-Aryan) language tree, and the Indo-Europeans are believed to have originated on or near the Armenian Plateau, migrating throughout Western and Central Asia and Europe. Indo-European took more than a root language with them, they brought ideas and beliefs distinct to their native home. Among these were the zodiac and the myths that sprung from their origins. One of the destinations for the Indo-European culture was Northern India, another the Doric culture in Greece. The Sanskrit language in particular has many root words identical to those found in Armenian.

There is also a common mythology between the cultures, beginning with the myth of Vishnu in Sanskrit, and ending with Dionysus in Greek mythology.

Indu-Aryan-Sanskrit(Mitanni, where Ur"Hai"/Urfa is located) words in Armenian. Indo-Iranian (Persian) doesnt even have these words, I asked my engerooheee in Iran, she said they dont have it. I will even check Old Persian. This proves we were there in Mitanni time, and Indu people were also, one of the Aryans that migrated in 1200 BC after Mitanni :)

aprana [upraan]: beyond manifest life; devoid of life aprel

aruna [urun]: red

para [puraa]: higher; supreme; other; in Tantricism, unmanifest sound "Bar"zr "Par"zr = supreme, medz

para bhakti [puraa bhukti]: supreme devotion para nadi [puraa naadi]: a yogic nerve para vibhuti [puraa vibhooti]: superior vibhuti parabraham [purubruhm]: the Absolute Parabrahman [ ]: the Supreme Absolute

All our words have deep spiritual meanings!

jnana lakshana [j^naan luk^shun]: sign of wisdom nshan janabar

jnana marga [j^naan maarg]: path of knowledge janabar

jnana vichara [j^naan vichaar]: inquiry regarding knowledge vichel janabar

jnana yoga [j^naan yog]: the method of realizing the Absolute through knowledge jnanagni [j^naanaagni]: fire of wisdom jnanameva chakshus [ ]: All-seeing eyes jnanendriya [j^nunendriya]: sense organ

jnani [j^naani]: sage; one who has realized the Self "jana"cheer

mati [muti]: thinking power matazel

gita : knowledge; gitak-

arog : health aroghj-

gyan- : life gyank

kendra [ ]: center; heart kendron

avatar [uvutaar]: incarnation of God (h)avat avidya [uvidyaa]: nescience; ignorance of our true nature; all consciousness or knowledge, so long as it is restricted to the subject-object manifold (h)avidya

lakshana [luk^shun]: sign; definition nshanakel

Avatâra: descend of the Supreme Lord. Avedaran

Arcana: honoring, praise, homage paid, the reverence before a m û r t i or the connecting of one's senses in the service of the Lord (see: b h â g a v a t a d h a r m a). Arca-vigraha: the incarnation of the Lord in a seemingly materially created form meant to facilitate new devotees, to worship Him (see M û r t i). Arka!

Ashthânga-yoga: the eightfold path of y o g a Asdvadz

Ashtha-siddhis: the eight mystical perfection Ashtdvadz

Âstikyam: religious connectedness, faithfullness, trust in the principles of religion, piety.

Âdhi: place, situation, (se

Ârati: lightoffering; ritual at which before the idol, His a r c â - form (see M û r t i), flowers, water, incense and light are being offered.

Âryan: the civilized, progressive, cultured person of spiritual realization

there is way moer this is just "A" section 75.4.219.115 20:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC) User:Ararat_arev

jhrana - water(or waterfall) jhran(sk), jhrvej, jur (Greek and Persian not close with this word and many others: Greek-nero, Persian-ab)

shvana or shun dog

Carrot-gazar-gazr (again these words not in Persian)

Crowd - ambokh -amboh (again these words not in Persian)

http://www.selfdiscoveryportal.com/cmSanskrit.htm

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/glossary/a.html

http://sanskritdocuments.org/hindi/dict/eng-hin-itrans.html

http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Azgaser/AR.html from Martiros Kavoukjian's Armenia, Sumer, Subartu, 1982

http://arevordi.blogspot.com 12,000 year history of Armenia

http://www.armenianhighland.com 12,000 year history of Armenia

http://www.saintsarkis.org/Language.htm roots of Armenian language

Thutmose_III of Egypt (1500 BC in his 23rd year records) mentions the people of Ermenen as paying tribute when he held his court at Nineveh, and says that in their land "heaven rests upon its four pillars."

http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/741

Persian words more similar to Phrygians, rather than Armenian words

Due to the invasion of the Medes and Persians in the Anatolian region, the Persians borrowed or exchanged words with Greeks and Phrygians. Also, since Persians took over the power in the Middle east, the Armenians were submitted to them, so they were with them in Anatolia. This explains where we get these similar words, yet Persians have the words more similar.

Phrygian words include:

• germe, 'warm',

PIE *gwher-, 'warm'; cognate to Gk: thermos (θερμός) "warm", Per: garme "warm", Arm: ĵerm "warm", Alb: zjarm "warm".

• mater, 'mother',

cf. Gk: meter (μήτηρ) "mother", Per: madar "mother", (Armenian 'mair' Persian madar more similar)

• brater, 'brother',

PIE *bhrater-, 'brother'; Per: bratar 'brother' (Armenian 'eghbair' Persian bratar more similar)

afsoos, ogheyanos, etc etc are more similar words in Persian with Phrygians(or Greek) than Armenian.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.4.219.115 (talk) 21:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC).

Armenian,Persian, Indian words similar because all are Aryan peoples

I have so far found 45 Persian words that are Armenian. There are way over 45, but this is what I found so far. Out of these 45 words, the roots and origins is clearly Armenian. Let me give some examples:

• Blue in Armenian "gabooyd" is "abee" in Persian

Armenian gabooyd clearly was the much longer and complete word.

• Pocket in Armenian "grban" is "geeb" in Persian

Once again Armenian grban clearly was the much longer and complete word.

• News in Armenian "nor" is "no" in Persian

Once again Armenian nor is clearly the much longer and complete word.

• Ant in Armenian "mrjoon" is "morche" in Persian

Once again Armenian mrjoon is more longer and complete word

• Mail in Armenain "namag" is "nameh" in Persian

Once again Armenian longer and complete word

And there are plenty more examples like:

• zung - zang
• spitak - sefeed
• usdkh - setar
• mard - mard
• vardana - vardana
• sev - sey
• muz - mo
• gov - guv
• dakdag - takteh
• khetzkhet - kharchang
• nov - nuv
• baneer - paneer
• gadoo - gorbeh
• vocheech - heechee
• jerm - garme(Phrygian germe more Persian)
• pogh - pool
• kuz - khok
• madeed - medod
• vad - bad
• mekh - mikh
• vayree - vashee
• sur - sar
• hazar - hezar
• husheev - hesob
• tag - tug
• door - dar
• breenz - berenj
• noor - anor
• dooster - dokhtar
• badick - orduck
• umb - abr
• moog - moosh
• dod - dad
• azad - azad
• ofgyanos - ogheyanos(Greek also)
• absos - afsoos(Greek also)
• zunbyoogh - zanbil

All these and more are Persian words I found that are taken from Armenian. The Armenian original words are much longer and complete 75.39.161.122 21:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Strike-through text

Understanding Aryan and Armenian roots

The info I realized first of the inaccuracy of Herodotus, that they use as their only source, and that Phrygians share more similar words with Persians. Mushki is also rememberd to this day in Georgia. Georgians and Kurds have links with Mushki/Mushku, which is basically the Phrygians. Its amazing how much lies they put on Wikipedia and other places. Persians have more similar words, yet they put way different Armenian words with the Phrygians!. Persians power around 500BC and weakining of our kingdom of Ararat(Urartu), made the Armenians submit to the Persians and carried to Anatolia with them. We have to see all sides of the history, for example why did the Persians go to West Anatolia in the first place, what was their purpose, and they carrying Armenians with them there. Also about the amazing amount of Sanskrit words and the deep spiritual meaning of our words like Asta-(Astavadz) meaning "8 perfection" in Sanskrit, do you see this is amazing man?! Also "Avidya janabar" they use the same words! Vichel janabar(jnana) = inquiry regarding knowledge , so many of them. 'Ar'menians even use the root word "Ar" (Sun, Light, Life, Love)for main words like "Ar"men, "Ar-Ar"at(Aratta), Arev, "Ar"mad(root of "Ar"yans),and the word "Ar"yan itself(like in our blood), mer "Ar"yan mech eh mer "Hay"rer Hygagan Lernashkharee(Armenian Highlands) So basicaly the other Aryans, like Persians, Indians, and Kurds, were the same people, but some of them migrated to India and Persia, and formed there own nations. So this is why we have similar words, cause we were the same peoples, the Aryans or Ariyans.

Here are some good links:

http://www.selfdiscoveryportal.com/cmSanskrit.htm these first 3 links reveal the many words in Armenian from Sanskrit words

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/glossary/a.html

http://sanskritdocuments.org/hindi/d...in-itrans.html

http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Azgaser/AR.html from Martiros Kavoukjian's Armenia, Sumer, Subartu, 1982

http://www.tacentral.com/history.asp 12,000 year history of Armenia

http://www.tacentral.com/erebuni/2ndwave.asp Aryan roots

http://arevordi.blogspot.com 12,000 year history of Armenia

http://www.armenianhighland.com 12,000 year history of Armenia

http://www.saintsarkis.org/Language.htm roots of Armenian language

Thutmose_III of Egypt (1500 BC in his 23rd year records) mentions the people of Ermenen as paying tribute when he held his court at Nineveh, and says that in their land "heaven rests upon its four pillars."

http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/741

Powerful points that Armenians native to the Highlands

• Armenians were submitted to the Persians during the Persian empire in Anatolia

• Herodotus was not accurate on geography, and he's not the only source to depend on

• Herodotus mention with the Greek "oi" at the end like: Armen"oi", Moshk"oi", Chald"oi", are the Armen"i", Mushk"i", Khald"i" The Armen"i" was the same Armen"i"(Armens) of the Akkadians inscription 2400 BC, locating them near Lake Van.

• Just as any other nations name has their origins and root names like: "Anglos" is the English, "Pars" or Fars is the Persians, "Assur" is the Assyrians and so on. So the "Armens or Armeni" is the Armenians

• Phrygians share more similar "European" words with Persians like: mother, brother, etc etc.

• Arya(n) roots/"Ar"mad in Armenian and "Ar"yan(blood) in Armenian, in our blood, in our "Ar"yan mech eh our ancestors from "Ar"yan "Ar"men

• Armenians call themselves "Hai" from "Haik". The latest mention of anywhere near "Hai" is from Haiasa-azzi(1500 BC the latest mention) which is way before 600 BC, and the earliest mention is 4,500 years ago

• In 1935 Reza Shah changed the name of Persia to "Iran", revealing that these new ideas emerged around ww2. So they invented terms like "Indo-Iranian" peoples, Indo-Aryan peoples. We to this day call ourselves "Aryan" or "Aryaee" people.

• Armeni mentioned way earlier than Hayasa, were talking 4,500 years ago Armeni locating them in the southern Armenian Highlands near Lake Van! Not Phrygia!

• There are more Persian words in Phrygians rather than Armenian! and we are all "Aryaee" that means Persians, Indians, Armenians, Kurds! and thats why we share similar words nobody took it first

• Artatama king of Mitanni had the title "king of the Hurri", which shows that Hurrian once again is linked with Aryan-IE. Another source also makes clear the Mitanni was IE-Aryan(Hurrian) kingdom.

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