Talk:Rove McManus: Difference between revisions

Should the stub be turned into an Australian-stub?

Vandalism

Vandal(s) have constantly been putting quotes around the word comedian in the first sentence. After a while I got sick of it and started banning IPs as it has been happening. I've now got to an IP shared by someone doing mostly good edits. Would anyone be opposed to temporary protection of the page? It's not a major act of vandalism but it is consistent, repeated and from many different addresses. -- Chuq 09:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

FWIW, I think that calling Rove McManus a comedian would constitute original research :-) Ta bu shi da yu 04:52, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

To quell these acts of vandalism you should include something about the negative points of Rove. It is true that a lot of people don't find him funny and there have been numerous accusations of him stealing other peoples comedic routines. His interviewing style has also been questioned by various tv magazines.

Its true calling Rove a comedian is not completely correct, it could be argued he is a glorified puppet, simply regurgitating material produced by his TEAM of writers. This is fact, and i believe this is the reason such widespread dislike has formed of him. Remove the protection from this page, and help maintain the integrity of Wikipedia.

Other variety show hosts have a team of writers to, but at least they make the host funny. To call rove funny is the same as calling Stalin compassionate.

From richardcavell - I'll keep clear of the argument for or against Rove being called a comedian. There are a couple of niggling errors on this page. The phrase "Rove landed a ten late night episodes of his own tonight show" is grammatically incorrect. Also, his current show has been called Rove (Live) in one part and Rove Live in another.

From Steven - First, the statement filed under the section "Other Work" which reads "When Bert Newton fell ill in early June 2005, Rove hosted his show Good Morning Australia in his place" is somewhat misleading as Gretel Killeen also hosted Good Morning Australia while Burt was ill; there may also have been other guest hosts. It would be more accurate to say Rove was a GMA guest host for only part of the time Burt was ill.

Interesting, I didn't hear about Gretel hosting it - can you provide a source and I'll update the page. -- Chuq 06:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Second, placing a ban on the editing of Rove's page only undermines Wiki's statement "the free-content encyclopaedia that anyone can edit". Preventing derogatory remarks is one thing, but to prevent a fair and balanced analysis of the entertainer to be published only highlights one of the fundamental flaws of Wikipedia. When a hierarchy of editors is introduced which uses their own opinion to select the more accurate representation is the moment the source ceases to be free and open.

Numerous anonymous editors were adding the quotes, and after being asked why, refused to even reply or comment. This is vandalism. After the source IP addresses of the vandalism were blocked, it re-occurred from other IPs - this is persistent vandalism. The reversions were done by a number of people, admins and regular users. The fact that you are replying now shows that you do know how to reply to comments on talk pages and intentionally ignored them before.

I don't get paid to do this and I don't have time to sit around and constantly revert bored children playing games. Using Finger quotes is obviously not suitable for an encyclopedia article. If you really are serious about writing about some of Rove's negative qualities, give an example of what you would add to the article on the talk page. -- Chuq 06:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)