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====Egyptian parliamentary election, 1924====
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on July 23

Pons Neronianus

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 17:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Gordon (actor)

side profile of a basketball player holding a basketball, while wearing the white and green uniform of the Boston Celtics

  • ... that Carl Gordon's character in the TV series Roc thought Larry Bird (pictured) was too good at basketball to be white, insisting "Larry Bird was born and bred in Harlem" and "his real name is Abdul Mustafa"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Karl Edvard Laman

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Mosque

5x expanded by Kedadi (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jessi Slaughter cyberbullying case

Created by Ingersollian (talk). Nominated by Christopher Connor (talk) at 10:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wakatobi National Park

Beach in Wakatobi National Park

5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 04:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Hochland (magazine), Carl Muth, Theodor Schieffer, Heinrich Lützeler, Peter Wust

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 15:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tani Cantil-Sakauye

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 22

A narrow paved road running towards the left of the image from an intersection at bottom center. Two large trees are on the left, and beyond them are gravestones on terraces
Roads and terraced graves in cemetery

Mount Albion Cemetery

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ain Sakhri lovers

two people can just be made out they are face to face and carved in smooth stone

  • Comment: I did link to wiktionary deliberately (and yes it is allowed)

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are their older statues of one person making love? Or three, for that matter? Daniel Case (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • LOL! Actually there are other phallic sculptures of this date which I haven't seen. I assume you don't think its important that we remove "two"..If so then just remove it. oh and congrats on 350 plus. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Rensselaer Lake

5x expanded by Camelbinky (talk). Nominated by Camelbinky (talk) at 13:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Óscar Zamora Medinaceli

  • ... that Óscar Zamora Medinaceli, a communist student activist and leader of a Maoist insurgency in the 1970s, would become a senator, mayor, ambassador, prefect and minister of Bolivia?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deer Rock

Deer Rock or Peace Rock, Heritage of Tlingit Tribals of Alaska
Deer Rock or Peace Rock, Heritage of Tlingit Tribals of Alaska

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 23:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart F. Feldman

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Chaikov

  • ... that Skulptur, a 1921 book by Joseph Chaikov, was the first book on sculpture in the Yiddish language?

Created by Lockley (talk). Nominated by Maashatra11 (talk) at 22:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CenSeam

Created by ResMar. Self nom at 22:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

San Cassiano (Venice)

5x expanded by Nick Ottery (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great Wicomico River

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Ser Amantio de Nicalao (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 21:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aberdeen Student Show

Created by Solaricon (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 19:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hindiya Barrage

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Moved to mainspace on 22 July.
  • This looks good for DYK - the length, creation date (moved from userspace) and citations all check out. The hook citation checks out based on the snippet view of the book available on Google Books. Thanks. Nick Ottery (talk) 12:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Williams (Elevator Bandit)

  • ... that after 33 years in jail as the "Elevator Bandit", 63-year-old Arthur Williams went on a final crime spree with a gun in one hand, a cane in the other and an oxygen tank hooked up to his nose?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zan Parr Bar

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CryoSat-2

Created/expanded from redirect by GW Simulations (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Excellent article, well referenced and already in very good shape. The hook is cited in-line though might I suggest a minor tweak as I think it is slightly misleading to imply that the repair was effected by an endoscope. My proposed ALTs are below. Could I also ask why the hook is referenced to the image page rather than the article itself? Not a major thing but just curious. Thanks. Nick Ottery (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that a surgeon repaired damage to the CryoSat-2 satellite with the assistance of an endoscope?
ALT2: ... that a surgeon carried out an endoscopy on the CryoSat-2 satellite after a problem was found during final preparations for launch?
Either option is fine, my personal preference would be the second one. The reference to the image page was in error; the reference at the end of the next sentence was intended to cover it, I then added the surgeon's name and referenced the image page for that (it wasn't in the article itself), however I put the reference in the wrong place. I have rectified this error. Thanks. --GW 14:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks for taking a look at that. This is now good to go for DYK. I would suggest using the ALT2 hook per the nom's preference. Nick Ottery (talk) 15:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Bushnaq, Dudu Yifrah and Micha Yaniv

Dudu Yifrah with the sewn together Israeli-Palestinian flags on the summit of Everes

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gloom

Gloomy mudflats at Bo'ness

  • ... that people tend to see the world as a grey gloom when they are depressed?

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Pura (Balinese temple)

  • ... that Pura, is Balinese Hindu temple that - unlike common indoor Hindu temples - it is designed as an open air place of worship?

created and expanded by Gunkarta (talk). Nominated by (Gunkarta (talk) 17:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

    • There is no inline citation directly after the sentence where this informaiton appears in the article. Even if it were passed, it should read this way (fixing grammatical errors): "... that Pura is a Balinese Hindu temple that—unlike common indoor Hindu temples—is designed as an open air place of worship?"--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 18:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shkodër Cathedral

Created by Sulmues (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rasta Thomas

5x expanded by Esprit15d (talk). Nominated by Esprit15d (talk) at 16:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poco Pine

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Keith

  • ... that as the first American to play Henry Higgins on Broadway in My Fair Lady, Larry Keith said he doubted if he could get away with his English accent in England, "but I think I can in New York"?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy G. Shoalmire

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "1868-1876" was intended: corrected
ALT... that the historian Jimmy G. Shoalmire was archivist of the John C. Stennis Colllection at Mississippi State University in Starkville?

Jim Neu

  • ... that The New York Times called Jim Neu's 2008 play Gang of Seven "a brief but engaging torrent of intriguing ideas and dizzying wordplay" that "rewards repeat viewing"?
  • ALT1:that playwright Jim Neu described himself as being "unlucky enough to be drafted after graduating college, but lucky enough not to be sent to Viet Nam"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Go-Urban

Created by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tuxlith Chapel

A simple chapel behind a large tree, with a bellcote and a protruding porch

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Odd Erling Melsom, Fritt Folk, Folk og Land

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gofraid Donn

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The New Christy Minstrels, Presenting The New Christy Minstrels

double nom 5x expanded/created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 08:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marche, Arkansas

  • ... that the town of Marche, Arkansas was founded by a Polish count who wanted to restore the agricultural environment familiar to most Poles before their arrival in America?

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 07:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nelumbo aureavallis

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ladies' night

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 04:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

July 2010 R238 traffic collision

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Black Issues Book Review

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 21

Egyptian parliamentary election, 1924

Created by BomBom (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 17:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Claustra Alpium Iuliarum

Created by Ekem (talk). Nominated by Ekem (talk) at 01:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamín Miguel Harb

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1976 NBA Draft

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seated Buddha from Gandhara

Stone statue of Buddha

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, hook and picture all OK. However I suggest changing "known by symbols like his footprint" to "represented by symbols such as his footprint" in order to avoid two "like"s in the hook and because "known by symbols" doesn't quite work for me: BabelStone (talk) 12:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 ... that for hundreds of years the Buddha was represented by symbols such as his footprint before images like the Seated Buddha from Gandhara (pictured) were carved in Pakistan?
Fine. Thx Victuallers (talk) 15:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitar Sasselov

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 07:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • (alt)... that the most distant planet in 2002 was discovered by Dimitar Sasselov's team?
rephrase Victuallers (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Victuallers (talk) 15:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, though I think the original hook is clearer and I'd like to retain Sasselov's nationality and occupation. TodorBozhinov 07:59, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William V. N. Barlow House

A brick house with a high pointed roof on its left and a lower, trapezoid-shaped one on its right. The first story has a pointed-roof porch on the left and a section sticking out from the brick on its right.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


John Ardis Cawthon

ALT: that the historian John Ardis Cawthon wrote about "poor whites" from the Louisiana hills scorned by plantation owners on the big rivers "considered unworthy of the historical record"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neunggasa

Outside view of Neunggasa Daeung Hall

  • ... that Neunggasa is a Korean Buddhist temple located Goheung county, South Jeolla province, South Korea
resting at the base of Mount Palyeong was established in 419?

Created by Steve46814 (talk). Nominated by Steve46814 (talk) at 01:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Provinciale Zeeuwse Courant

Created by Drmies (talk) and Mandarax (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 00:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

39 Welsh Row, Nantwich

Photograph of a red-brick building with blue-brick decoration, with a central shaped gable including a bay window with a stone balustrade above.

Created by Espresso Addict (talk). Nominated by Espresso Addict (talk) at 22:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment: Not sure about wording...

Created by Circeus (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length of the article verified, length of the hook OK, hook refs OK. The wording of the hook looks fine to me but somebody may want to double-check the finer points of grammar and style when the entry is moved to prep. I did modify the hook slightly by adding the year. Nsk92 (talk) 10:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Louisiana Historical Association

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British rhythm and blues

Created by Sabrebd (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 21:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

José de la Borda

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1 ... that José de la Borda's family motto was "God gives to Borda, so Borda gives to God"?
The first hook is largely uncited in the article, and while the second hook is cited, the citation cannot be read, as the format seems to be missing a few crucial components. In the meantime, the length is confirmed. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 22:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added extra citations to support the first hook (look in the beginning and end of the second paragraph of the Mining career section). I fixed the citation number 5... it was just missing a bracket.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, and offline sources accepted in good faith. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peltandra primaeva

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Los Angeles Daily News (historic)

  • ... that the first edition of the old Los Angeles Daily News was nearly sabotaged when an explicit sex story was inserted in what was meant to be a "clean" newspaper?

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WWE Elimination Chamber

5x expanded by NiciVampireHeart (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maureen Ogden, 22nd Legislative District (New Jersey)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hasan Tahsini

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 20:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Olaf Gjerløw

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kåre Langvik-Johannessen, Albert Lange Fliflet

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tomm Murstad

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phlebopus

  • ... that a species of mushroom in the genus Phlebopus can attain cap diameters of up to 1 meter (3.3 ft)?

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 18:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prodryas

Engraving of a butterfly with its wings open: two clubbed antennae extend forwards, and patterns can be seen on the wings.

5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 16:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Denise Jefferson

  • ... that Denise Jefferson started learning to dance when she was eight, but didn't pursue a career in ballet because she "had never seen anyone who wasn't white in a ballet company"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Silly Billy

  • ... that, at English fairs, women enjoyed sticking pins into Silly Billy's legs?

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 15:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Godart

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 12:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sadd-el-Kafara Dam

Created and self nom by --NortyNort (talk) 12:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Yea, that is fine. It would be nice to include Egypt in the hook but like you said, it is hard to fit it in there without distorting who destroyed the dam. Omitting Egypt may also make a reader more curious as well. Thanks for taking the time to review it and provide an ALT.--NortyNort | Holla 03:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Augustus Voelcker

Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook refs verified. Won't it be simpler to say "worth £36 in 2010" instead of "£36 at present worth as of 2010"? Anyway, definitely a quirky (crappy?:) hook for the end of a DYK set. —Bruce1eetalk 12:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mind if I alter the hook and article to match your sensible suggestion? --Senra (talk) 14:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, please go ahead. —Bruce1eetalk 15:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Changed as suggested --Senra (talk) 15:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a bit confused, and was unable to clarify w/a quick look at the refs. Does "adult head" refer to "head of household"? If it just refers to adult, might we not do better to dispense with "head"?--Epeefleche (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
done --Senra (talk) 20:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Caldecote

A short stone church with the tower on the left, and a prominent gabled south porch. The parapets of the porch and body of the church are battlemented

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Claude Aveline

  • ... that a bust of Claude Aveline, a French writer, was the last sculpture conceived by Ossip Zadkine before his death?
  • ALT1 ... that at only 21, French writer Claude Aveline already founded his own publishing house called Chez Claude Aveline éditeur and was subsequently named "the youngest publisher in France"?
  • ALT2 ... that Portrait de L'Oiseau-Qui-N'existe-pas, a poem in French written by Claude Aveline about a nonexistent bird, was translated into 55 languages?

Created by Maashatra11 (talk). Nominated by Maashatra11 (talk) at 11:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Line Mode Browser

5x expanded by Mabdul (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandre Le Roy

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Frenchtown

5x expanded by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Cap-Français

Etching of a naval battle, seven sailing warships on a choppy sea and smoke-filed sky

5x expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Front curtain

  • ... that there are five main types of front curtain used in modern theatres?

5x expanded by DJSparky (talk). Nominated by DJSparky (talk) at 05:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added in-line citations on some of the major points. Hope thats enough. If not, please let me know what I can do to improve the article. Thanks DJSparky huh? 03:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Top Secret America

  • ... that the report "Top Secret America" revealed that over 800,000 people work for the US intelligence community?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Anna Frodesiak (talk) at 01:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 20

Mikó Citadel

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ibi (tribe)

  • ... that the main town and mission of the Ibi, a Timucua tribe, were evidently destroyed by the government of Spanish Florida as a result of the Timucua Rebellion of 1656?

Created by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved out of user space on July 20, 2010.--Cúchullain t/c 14:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by Gosford Park

5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Nominated by JuneGloom07 (talk) at 00:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Garner Wilder

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 18:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You should be able to zoom in on the article with a zoom box or scroll wheel and read it that way (which is how I do it) or download the PDF and zoom with your PDF reader. However, on closer reading, it is a bit ambiguous if there was one or two 1858 voyages of the same ship. So suggest something like:W Nowicki (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1= ... that shipping magnate Samuel Garner Wilder started in the business by sailing guano from Jarvis Island to New York?

Chilkoot River

The Chilkoot River

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 17:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

House concert

  • ... that a house concert is almost invariably described as an "intimate" experience?

5x expanded by Bearian (talk). Nominated by Bearian (talk) at 20:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wickham Market Hoard

a pot full of thick gold coins

Created by Bubba hotep (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length OK, but just a couple of niggles about the hook: 1) both hoards were found in fields near Wickham Market, which may or may not have been within the parish boundaries; 2) the ref indicates that there was another hoard found near WM in 1984, but it does not indicate that there were no other hoards discovered in the vicinity before 1984 or between 1984 and 2008, so it is not conclusively the "second hoard" from MW. Perhaps you could modify the hook to remove these two uncertainties. BabelStone (talk) 23:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tweaked Victuallers (talk) 12:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Spjøtvoll

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nematoceras dienemum

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I was a little confused by "rabbit digging and seal wallowing" at first (assuming them to be human activities), but I think it's fine. DYK hooks are supposed to grab people's attention. Length, date and hook refs all check out. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Lee Memorial State Park

5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Olga Borisovna Lepeshinskaya

5x expanded by Ekem (talk). Nominated by Ekem (talk) at 01:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fight for This Love

5x expanded by Lil-unique1 (talk). Nominated by Lil-unique1 (talk) at 23:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Therdchai Jivacate

5x expanded by DragonflySixtyseven (talk), ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Jurewicz

Created by Burpelson AFB (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kalulu

small African boy in a western suit

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


5x expanded by User:Norstrem (User talk:Norstrem). Self nom at 21:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The May 26 2010 expansion was a copyright violation from http://www.stateparks.com/temperance_river.html . I was under the impression from here: [[1]] (A4) that copyright violations weren't counted as article length. The only prose in the revision before that was 45 characters long. Norstrem (talk) 23:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Though I have just added about another 550. Norstrem (talk) 23:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It does not seem to be indicated as copyvio anywhere in the article history, but google shows that it is indeed copied from here. It would be useful to reviewers if you mentioned such factors in the nomination next time. On the basis that it was copyvio, the length is now OK (written before the further expansion). Date OK, and offlline hook claim AGF'd. BabelStone (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lyman Enos Knapp

Lyman Enos Knapp

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Wonoboyo hoard

Wonoboyo hoard golden artifact

Created by Gunkarta (talk) Nominated by (Gunkarta (talk) 21:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)). [reply]

  • aaah! a hoard that isn't from the UK! Well done. I have made changes so that it now passes the DYK rules. 1600 plus chars. Now has two refs and the hook fact is reffed. Can someone overcheck please Victuallers (talk) 21:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date and length OK. I copy edited the article, and added a ref to the hook claim about the irrigation project (missing in the English language source). I have edited the hook to remove the mention of a jar as one source says 1 jar and the other says 3 jars, and I have also changed paddy field to sugar cane field per the English language source, and other copy editing of the hook. Good to go now. BabelStone (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually many Indonesian sources (in Indonesian language) confirmed that it was discovered in "sawah" which means "rice field or paddy field" in Indonesian language. The irrigation project on lowering the field surface is typical irrigation works for rice fields, not for sugarcane field. As far as I know, from some Indonesian media (and as far as I've remember) it was discovered in paddy field. Yet it is possible to change the crop according to the seasons, from rice in wet moonsoon season to sugarcane in dry season. And October (the month of its discovery) is a wet season, which means it was rice planting seasons. I suspect the Australian exhibition report (in english) source is somehow cite falsely on mentioned sugarcane field. (Gunkarta (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

En tus Tierras Bailaré

  • ... that a Youtube video, En tus Tierras Bailaré, may result in an international tour for three previously unknown singers?

Created by AMuseo (talk) Nominated by AMuseo 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Under the Window

Under the Window by Kate Greenaway title page

Created by Smallman12q (talk), Truthkeeper88 (talk). Nominated by Smallman12q (talk) at 20:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AMuseo (talk) 21:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Roy Vernon Scott

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Reagan Day

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter J. Genova

  • ... that Peter J. Genova sponsored a bill that would make English the state's official language, stating that "Spanish has just grown too prominent in New Jersey"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo Capadocia

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 18:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Hepworth Wakefield

A grey structure made of trapezoidal blocks with a barren stony area in front of it.

Created by J3Mrs (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Sønder Kirkeby Runestone

Created by Deanlaw (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and hook all OK. Nice to see a bind rune hook, although I personally think that it is not quite right to call strung out runes along a single stem like these examples "bind runes" as they are very different to the traditional bind rune ligatures of two adjacent runes. BabelStone (talk) 21:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Mountain of Israeli-Palestinian Friendship

Better: ... that IDF veterans and former Palestinian prisoners joined forces to climb the Mountain of Israeli-Palestinian Friendship in Antarctica? DS (talk) 22:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the alternative, but I am not sure it is better. First of all not all the team were IDF veterans or Palestinian prisoners, and besides prisoners of what? They did not climb the Mountain of Israeli-Palestinian Friendship. They climbed an unnamed mountain, and then they named it to commemorate the friendship they developed, and at last IMO the first hook is much more "hookier".--Mbz1 (talk) 23:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Martin (Royal Navy officer)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 16:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AMuseo (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Ingram

Sir Arthur Ingram, English investor and politician.

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Boleyn (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Baptist's Church, Papworth St Agnes

A stone church seen from the southeast, with a battlemented tower on the left, then the nave, then the chancel at a lower level. The whole church has a chequerboard appearance

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AMuseo (talk) 21:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur H. Parmelee

Created by 09er (talk). Self nom at 15:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retigabine

5x expanded by Fvasconcellos (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monastery of Saint Paraskevi (Vikos)

A gorge with vertical cliffs and a torrent flowing in the valley

5x expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tanquary Fiord

  • ... that despite its location in the Arctic, one could conceivably grow lettuce at

Tanquary Fiord, Canada? Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article does not say the fjord is located in the Arctic (only implicitly in the categories and in the titles of the sources). Also, can you confirm that the lettuce part is in the offline ref? With so many DYKs under your belt I assume you know the rules, just want to make sure. I assume the calculation is based on the time to grow lettuce as summer crop (with a hardiness of 6 it will not survive the winter there). --Pgallert (talk) 10:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Pgallert, thanks for reviewing this article. I have made it clear in the article that the fjord is located in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. I didn't want to say 'Arctic' because that would probably involve saying 'since it's north of the Arctic Circle line, it is in the Arctic' and referencing that... I thought that would disrupt the article's flow. I suppose it's just like saying 'Panama is in Central America' - if I was using this example, I wouldn't be defining the bounds of Central America. Please let me know if I should insert the Arctic bit into the article. In addition, the lettuce part is explicitly stated in the offline source - "there are 65 frost-free days at Tanquary Fiord... one could conceivably grow lettuce." Thanks, Arctic Night 11:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)

Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)

5x exapand by AMuseo (talk). Self nom 20 July 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Mundon

The end of a church seen between trees; the protruding lower storey is timber-framed and has a red tiled roof. Above this is a weatherboarded belfry, also with a red tiled roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jawa Dam

  • ... that the Jawa Dam in Jordan is the oldest known dam in the world, dating back to 3000 BC?

Created by and self nom--NortyNort (talk) 12:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Anklet

x5 expansion and self nom by--Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC) [reply]

To assist in verification see ref 8 which is a large web based doc. The entry for 15 December confirms the name of one of the Polish destroyers and the entries for 22 December gives the list of Royal Navy, Norwegian and Polish navies involved. --Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Alexander Mabry, Jr.

5x expanded by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 04:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Imagining Madoff

a three-quarter profile of a man against a red background

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook refs verified. I moved "(pictured)" from after "Holocaust survivor" to after "Elie Wiesel". I think it looks better there, but feel free to put it back. —Bruce1eetalk 09:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Frederick Hammersley

  • ... that American abstract artist Frederick Hammersley devised three categories for his paintings: "Hunches", "Geometrics", and "Organics"?

Created by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 02:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 19

Kirin Kiki

  • ... that the Japanese actress Kiki Kirin auctioned off her first stage name on a television show because she claimed she had "nothing else to sell"?

Created by Michitaro (talk). Self nom at 13:59, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alan of Farfa

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 04:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Liudas Gira

Monument to Liudas Gira in Vilnius, built in 1977.

Created by Renata3 (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 00:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Capello Index

  • ... that the Capello Index is a rating system for footballers that evaluates 500 actions that a player might might make during a game?

Created by Bridgeplayer (talk). Nominated by Bridgeplayer (talk) at 16:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rory Brady

5x expanded by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gigi (music project)

  • ... that the music recording project Gigi involves indie rock musicians singing new 1950s- and 60s-style pop songs?

Created by Paul Erik (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Melithreptus, Black-headed Honeyeater, Western White-naped Honeyeater, Black-chinned Honeyeater, Brown-headed Honeyeater

  • Comment: getting the hook this short was tricky. A few nice images but adding (pictured) to the hook makes it too long.

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 21:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Etna class protected cruiser

A gray, two-funneled warship anchored with signal flags streaming from its rigging

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 06:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


140–142 Hospital Street, Nantwich; Hospital of St Nicholas, Nantwich

Photograph of a white-painted house; the main face has two storeys and attics, with an ornate doorway. The end section is two storeys with a large red-brick chimney.

  • Comment: Double nomination

Created by Espresso Addict (talk). Nominated by Espresso Addict (talk) at 05:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Borda House, Mexico City

A three-story brick building with red doors and iron grillwork.

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Clif Richardson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Politician opposes some large project because of economic and environmental factors? Dull hook. Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Award for Best Polka Album

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 20:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens football team

Created by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rich Cho

Created by Esprqii (talk). Nominated by Esprqii (talk) at 17:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chilkoot Lake

Chilkoot Lake during winter

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 14:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Silver phosphate

Created by Chemicalinterest (talk), 77.86.59.77 (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 14:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soulé Steam Feed Works

A crowd watches as blacksmiths demonstrate the pouring of molten iron

Created by Dudemanfellabra (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A running 1905 Watts–Campbell steam engine


Sag Harbor Whaling Museum

created by AMuseo (talk). Nominated by AMuseo (talk) 19 July 2010 (UTC)

John W. Shumaker

  • ... that John Shumaker, as new president of the University of Tennessee, ordered $493,000 in renovations and furnishings for his official residence, which had been remodeled shortly before he arrived?

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have two complaints about the proposed alternative hook. First, I think it's dull; in particular, I find the stadium part unremarkable because lots of universities build new stadiums. Second, and more importantly, it's not clear that he actually accomplished those things. There's a reason that the article says he was "credited with" those things (I see that you edited it in a manner that says he actually did them; I changed the wording back, but did not change your other copy edits). These things happened while he was at the university, but it's highly unlikely that he did those things single-handedly, and the only source linking him to those accomplishments is a piece of paraphrased puffery from an executive recruiter.
    In contrast, the fact that Shumaker spent almost half a million dollars on the house is very solidly sourced and is still almost current news in Tennessee, even though it's been 7 years since the story first came out; here are just a few of the recent articles that discuss it: Knoxville April 2010, Chattanooga March 2010, Memphis March 2010, Knoxville January 2010. I consider my proposed hook to be pretty mild because it merely suggests that he is picky and has expensive tastes; whereas there are other facts about him that are a lot more negative. For example, I would never think of suggesting that DYK say that he used a state airplane at taxpayer expense to make weekend visits to his girlfriend, who was president of a university in Alabama (I didn't even include the girlfriend part of that story in the article, although it is solidly sourced). --Orlady (talk) 23:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Albany Pine Bush

5x expanded by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Popeye Strydom

Created by Mr.Apples2010 (talk). Nominated by Mr.Apples2010 (talk) at 23:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seymour London

  • ... that tired of taking measurements by hand, Seymour London created the first automatic sphygmomanometer using an old blood pressure cuff, a column of mercury, a pump from a fish tank and a microphone?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Snabba Cash (film)

  • ... that actor Zac Efron is set to star in and produce the American remake of the successful Swedish thriller film Snabba Cash?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 21:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Virgil Orr

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neri Javier Colmenares

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Doukas (megas doux)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Garima Gospels

Icon of some of the Nine Saints, one of whom created the Garima Gospels.

  • ... that the Ethiopian Garima Gospels (pictured) was redated by radiocarbon testing to between 330-650, making it one of the oldest illuminated Christian manuscript in the world?

created by AMuseo (talk). Nominated by AMuseo (talk) 19 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Alt:That although the Garima Gospels are believed to be among the oldest illuminated Christian manuscripts in the world, expert birdwatchers are needed to determine whether the illustrations were painted in Ethiopia or the Middle East?

It is dated between 330-650 A.D. Actually we have more than 20 illustrated Christian manuscripts written between 400-650 A.D. (Codex Beratinus, Codex Vercellensis, etc.) Codex Washingtonianus usually is dated to the beginning of the V century, but according to some authors it was written in the 4th century. I propose a something like this: "... that the Ethiopian Garima Gospels after radiocarbon examination was redated ..." It will more safe. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. But the key is the complete phrase "oldest illuminated". Most of the older manuscripts are manuscripts, not illuminate manuseripts. It is certainly the oldest surviving Ge'ez manuscript. And it is a contender for being the oldest surviving illuminated Christian manuscript. these dates are not certain, but some experts now give this one the title palm. AMuseo (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)AMuseo (talk) 18:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It could be the oldest. Codex Vercellensis is dated to the 4th/5th century, so we have not assurance. It is only probability, but according to the Daily Telegraph and other newspapers it is the oldest. We should be more careful. I think actual hook is the best possible. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, certainly, "oldest" anything is uncertain, but it makes a good hook. I rather favor the birdwatching hook. It would be great if some knowledgeable ornithologist could locate the artist by identifying the sixth-century ranges of those birds.AMuseo (talk) 20:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Codex Vercellensis is illuminated.AMuseo (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Technically anything with more than a few pen flourishes can be called illuminated; I think the hook is fine. If it has significant figurative images, and dates before 650 Btw, I wish Leszek would actually include details of what little illumination there is in his articles. Johnbod (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You'll like these, full page saint portraits, text with elaborate surrounds. Quite extraordinary that such a fragile object survived.AMuseo (talk) 13:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Church, Woodwalton

A stone church with red tiled roofs seen from an angle, the battlemented tower being on the left. In the foreground is a statue of a child

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt: ... that the foundations of the redundant church of St Andrew, Woodwalton, Cambridgeshire, (pictured) are moving and it is closed to visitors? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adiantum hispidulum, Pteris tremula

green fern fronds in shade

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 15:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date of both are fine, and "five fingered jack" is explicitly cited, but there's no inline citation for "tender brake". According to APNI, Paczkowska & Chapman (2000) use the name "tender brake", so if you've got access to that, that would be plenty. --Stemonitis (talk) 10:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Henry Kinkead

Head and shoulders portrait of John Henry Kinkead wearing late 19th century formal dress

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 12:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Kuban River

The confluence of Teberda and Kuban near Karachaevsk

  • Comment: See the end of 1st paragraph in "Geography and hydrology"

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 12:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


William F. Borgmann

President of the United States Gerald Ford

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is a bit unclear. The American football 'Lineman' is not a term widely known outside the U.S. (for most parts of the world, a lineman is an Assistant referee (association football)), so perhaps a clarification of which sport we are talking about and in which year it occured would be good. Perhaps it should say "a Georgia Tech player" rather than "the Georgia Tech player", since he is not identified in the hook. And why is Gerald Ford piped as Jerry Ford? --Soman (talk) 21:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(alt)
Please rephrase this alt hook but the fact that they hit somebody hard doesnt remove what they did Victuallers (talk) 08:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Laccadive Sea

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Laval

  • ... that multisport coach Billy Laval's wife replied to his marriage proposal, "If you beat Clemson today, I will marry you", and he would later remark, "She has hated Clemson ever since"?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shartegosuchidae

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 05:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Komainu

5x expanded by Urashimataro (talk). Nominated by Urashimataro (talk) at 05:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I can't find any mention of 'dogs' by itself in the article - all I can see is references to lion-dogs. In addition, I think that having 'dogs' as the link text might be a bit confusing to those thinking that they article they are about to visit the dog page. I also reworded the hook a little for clarity. Thanks, Arctic Night 13:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ivy Williamson

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anogramma ascensionis

Anogramma ascensionis - the parsley fern

5x expanded by First Light (talk), Smartse (talk). Nominated by First Light (talk) at 04:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The 5x expansion and hook are fine, I just wondered whether it is still correct to have the conservation status as extinct? I can see that it is based on an IUCN reference but it seems stupid when it contradicts the hook. PS I've emailed someone to see if they can release an image to use in the article, I'll add it here if there is one available. Smartse (talk) 13:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A photo would be great, thanks! The conservation status looks odd, I know, but it's a very official thing and the IUCN are slow to upgrade a status—red tape probably. As far as I know, the official IUCN status is sacrosanct until they change it. That's why I added the last sentence to the second paragraph: "Even though it has been rediscovered, the fern is still officially listed as extinct." The Kew article, under footnote #5, puts it this way: "Anogramma ascensionis (fern) Extinct – although rediscovered, it is listed as extinct while its conservation status is reassessed." To make it more clear, I've tweaked my original sentence and moved it to the end of the first paragraph. I hope that helps. Thanks, First Light (talk) 14:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And perhaps the hook should lose the word 'officially', since it's still unfortunately 'officially' extinct. First Light (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I removed 'officially' from the hook. First Light (talk) 04:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added an image, I removed the binomial from the hook too as it made it less catchy. Someone else should probably check the article now, as I've added a fair bit of content to it. Smartse (talk) 15:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and image all check out, but I'd suggest altering the name. A. ascensionis may well be a parsley fern, but when we get an article on Cryptogramma crispa (remind me in a week if it hasn't appeared by then), that is where parsley fern should point. The Kew press release calls it the "Ascension Island parsley fern", which would do:
ALT1: ... that the Ascension Island parsley fern (pictured) was considered extinct until four plants were recently discovered on Ascension Island?
Otherwise, ready to go, as far as I can see. --Stemonitis (talk) 15:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, "Ascension Island parsley fern" appears to be more specific and accurate, so ALT1 looks good. First Light (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Having Ascension Island in the hook sounds a bit stupid IMO. How about a more exciting hook: Smartse (talk) 15:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that when the previously considered exinct Ascension Island parsley fern (pictured) was recently rediscovered, its spores were airlifted to Kew Gardens?
ALT1 is fine; let's leave it at that and avoid awkward constructions like "the previously considered ex[t]inct Ascension Island parsley fern". --Stemonitis (talk) 17:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David Twersky (journalist)

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook, length and sources have all been verified and everything checks out. Either "U.S." or "American" would be fine, and there would be no issue if it was left out entirely. It might be useful to link to Presidency of Bill Clinton rather than to the article about Clinton as an individual. Alansohn (talk) 22:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flight of Refugees Across Wrecked Bridge in Korea

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 18 July 2010 (PST)

First International Match

Created by User:Bigbenboa (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 18 July 2010 (PST)

Daniel I. Arnon

  • ... that Daniel I. Arnon was the first to demonstrate the chemical function of photosynthesis in the lab outside of a plant cell, creating sugar and starch from inputs of carbon dioxide and water?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 18

The Show (Doug E. Fresh song)

Created by Kafziel (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook ref is not offline. It includes an external link to the relevant passage at Google books. Just sayin'. Kafziel Complaint Department 06:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When I click on that link all I get is a description of the book with a message "No preview available". But it's not a problem, I've accepted the reference in good faith. —Bruce1eetalk 06:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know, that's why I said "Just sayin'". Must be your browser; I just clicked the link above and it took me straight to page 46 of the book. Good faith or no, it's not offline. Kafziel Complaint Department 06:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For interest, have a look at this discussion. —Bruce1eetalk 09:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So there you have it. As I said, it's not offline, you just can't see it. Kafziel Complaint Department 14:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mohegan Indians v. Connecticut

Created by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 16:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with this hook, but I suggest inclusion of File:Joseph Dudley.jpg, the Governor of Massachusetts who heard the case in the first instance. Savidan 04:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suludnon

Created by Anak 1 (talk). Nominated by Smile1234smile (talk) at 14:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 is clearer IMHO but the original hook checks out148.241.190.42 (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops ... forgot to sign in before doing the above.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Luise Neunecker

Created by Francesco Malipiero (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copper Bull

  • ... that the Copper Bull sculpture found in Iraq in 1923 was over 4,500 years old?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • While the sculpture's creation date is shown in the Infobox, the date/age is not mentioned in the article text and it's not cited. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM
Thx for the review. Oops. Fixed. Victuallers (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. Dates of the sculpture's creation and discovery are now given and cited. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tornado Måløy FK

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mill Creek chert

Created by Heironymous Rowe (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 04:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Union of Indigenous Communities of the Isthmus Region

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

La Galissonnière class ironclad

A white-painted, three-masted ship with a black funnel

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 17:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bob Emery

  • ... that Bob Emery at age 46 already ranks among the 20 all-time winningest college men's ice hockey coaches, with 465 wins?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Walker (industrialist)

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Nominated by GrapedApe (talk) at 03:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that Pittsburgh steel magnate John Walker's personal library, including all of the original furnishings, was donated to Washington & Jefferson College and installed in Thompson Library exactly as he had left it?
ALT 2: ... that a room in U. Grant Miller Library at Washington & Jefferson College contains the personal library of Pittsburgh steel magnate John Walker, installed exactly as he had left it?

Pinus peregrinus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 01:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Acatlán, Hidalgo

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook tweakedThelmadatter (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, now I'm more confused. What is the "Hacienda El Lucero"? Is it a neighborhood?--PinkBull 22:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I tweaked it again, giving a link to the word "Hacienda," which is a kind of rural establishment in Mexico. They were usually dedicated to agriculture in Mexico's history, but the few that exist today (legally none do) are usually tourist attractions. In this case, the word "hacienda" is part of the establishment's name.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Kinnaman

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 22:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Hook ref AGF. However, the hook is 209 char. I suggest this version:
ALT1: ... that Swedish actor Joel Kinnaman was a top contender for the lead role in Thor, based on the Thor of Norse mythology, because the filmmakers "wanted someone with a Scandinavian touch"? Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I was struggling with keeping the hook short. The alt is fine with me. Thanks. :) Theleftorium (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monroe Jay Lustbader, 21st Legislative District (New Jersey)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. Sorry about giving the run around, but the fact that Lustbader was in 21st Legislative District is not supported by in inline citation, as far as I can see.--PinkBull 17:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Labbu

Created/expanded by Wetman (talk). Nominated by Wetman (talk) at 21:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good additional link, too!--Wetman (talk) 20:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stenotus binotatus

An elongate yellow bug with black markings, on a head of grass.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. Can I suggest an ALT1 though, on reading the hook I thought that sticky dough was a plant disease:
ALT1 ... that when the timothy plant bug (pictured) feeds on wheat, it damages the grain, which can lead to "sticky dough"? Smartse (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also good. I liked the brevity of the original, but if it's not clear, then it has to be changed. --Stemonitis (talk) 13:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know what you mean about the first being simpler, if anyone thinks it isn't confusing then we could go with that, but if not let's go with ALT1. Smartse (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I Write Like

Created by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that website I Write Like reported that transcripts of rants made by Mel Gibson resemble writings by Canadian writer and feminist Margaret Atwood?

Calakmul

Large pyramid rising above the jungle

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sauganash Hotel

Black and white sketch of a 2-story log structure with people milling about in front of it

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 16:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cleveland Indians managers

5x expanded by --LAAFan (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC) Self nom on 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I find this hook misleading, as none of the 6 Hall-of-Famers mentioned were inducted as notable Indian managers, but as notable players (mostly on other teams), except perhaps Lopez, but he seems more famous as the White Sox manager. I looked up List of members of the Baseball Hall of Fame and sorted all the names by "position", and found no Cleveland managers there. Furthermore, Lajoie is a 7th Cleveland manager marked in the table on List of Cleveland Indians managers (the DYK candidate) as a Hall-of-Famer, and the first one to appear due to the chronological nature of the list, but there's no explanation (6 vs 7) in the text. --PFHLai (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt hook ... that Nap Lajoie served as manager of the Cleveland Indians from 1905 to 1909? - --LAAFan 18:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This hook seems very plain. I would prefer that the first hook be modified to correct the issues raised by User: PFHLai.--PinkBull 19:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Alt hook ... that Lou Boudreau is one of six players enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame that later went on to manage the Cleveland Indians? --LAAFan 20:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it 6 or 7? See User:PFHLai's comment above.--PinkBull 05:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Talk:List of Cleveland Indians managers#There should be a total of 7 former Cleveland managers in the Baseball Hall of Fame. --PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Boudreau quit the Indians in 1950, 20 years before he became a Hall-of-Famer in 1970. So "later went on to" in the hook does not apply. I don't know about the other 5 (6!) Hall-of-Famers. --PFHLai (talk) 05:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify the 2nd alternate hook, there were 7, but Lopez was inducted as a manager, not a player. --LAAFan 15:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Joe Gordon was inducted last year, decades after his death, so "later went on to manage ..." would be impossible, unless his ghost has taken over Manny Acta's body -- please provide a ref for this, if this actually happened. (Just kidding) ;-) --PFHLai (talk) 01:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


3rd Alt hook ... that player-manager of the Indians Lou Boudreau was later enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame? --LAAFan 15:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So was Lajoie. --PFHLai (talk) 01:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC) Not really. --PFHLai (talk) 01:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, was the not really to your crossed out comment or to the 3rd alt hook?--LAAFan 01:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the original hook was fine - other than the six should be seven - since it does not claim that they were enshrined as managers, just that they were enshrined, and that is reliably sourced. But if that is a problem, maybe ALT-4 could be "... that Baseball Hall of Famers Tris Speaker and Lou Boudreau are the only two Cleveland Indians managers to lead the team to a World Series championship?" Rlendog (talk) 02:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a big problem with the original hook. However, the hook is not supported in the article with an in-line citation. It seems like it would require to reader to find support for that fact by combing through different sources. This applies to ALT 4 as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong.--PinkBull 17:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Centrifugal Railway

Original design drawings of Centrifugal Railway

Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Hardmead

A stone church seen between trees, with a tower and part of the nave, both battlemented

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arch dam

5x expanded by --NortyNort (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC) Self nom by 13:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need a comma after Glanum Dam? Si Trew (talk) 17:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think so, I added it in.--NortyNort (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hinrich Johannes Rink

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 09:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can we add the name of the paper, [Atuagagdliutit] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help)? I've added it to the article (I got it from the cited source). Si Trew (talk) 10:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Danish geologist Hinrich Johannes Rink was the founder of Atuagagdliutit, the first Kalaallisut language newspaper? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Buda (1849)

Painting of the Battle of Buda (1849), by the artist Mór Than

Created by Monkap (talk). Nominated by SimonTrew (talk) at 09:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. I kinda beefed it up in the hook, should probably stick at "last day". Si Trew (talk) 19:26, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Light front holography

Diagram hemisphere with box crosshatch, large red globe in center, smaller blue globe with 3 dots orbiting, an arc of lightning from the small to the large globe

  • ... that Light front holographic methods were originally found by Stanley J. Brodsky and Guy F. de Tėramond in 2006 by mapping the spatial quark distribution in a proton to a higher dimensional warped space?

Created by Conjecturix (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 08:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The suggestion above was modified by the article creator, to;
  • ... that Light front holographic methods were originally found by Stanley J. Brodsky and Guy F. de Tėramond in 2006 by mapping the spatial quark distribution in a proton to a higher dimensional warped space? This new insight into the dynamics of quarks could shed new light into one of the major unsolved problems in elementary particle physics:

why are quarks and gluons permanently bound within a proton?

([[::User:Conjecturix|Conjecturix]] (talk · contribs) |00:20, 19 July 2010</small)>
But I think reviewers will agree this is too non-neutral?  Chzz  ►  03:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Right. I propose the text below which follows closely the wiki article
  • ... that Light front holographic methods were originally found by Stanley J. Brodsky and Guy F. de Tėramond in 2006 by mapping the spatial quark distribution in a proton to a higher dimensional warped space? This new method provides a remarkably accurate first approximation to the mass spectra of mesons and baryons composed of light-quark bound states.

- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conjecturix (talkcontribs) 00:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a limit of 200 characters in a hook, that is currently 294 characters. Can you come up with a more catchy hook? Also every paragraph needs a reference, are the first three all referenced off the same paper? Smartse (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that Light front holographic methods were originally found by mapping the spatial quark distribution in a proton to a higher dimensional warped space? Smartse (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The last version by Smartse is just fine and also neutral ... --Conjecturix (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with ALT3. And I believe, now, there are sufficient inline citations?  Chzz  ►  14:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could someone who has some knowledge of the subject check the article? Smartse (talk) 07:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have just cropped the pic - new version here - which I hope will be better for the DYK little pic.  Chzz  ►  04:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram hemisphere with box crosshatch, large red globe in center, smaller blue globe with 3 dots orbiting, an arc of lightning from the small to the large globe

Stephen Nehmé

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 07:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The latter part of the hook is part of a sentence in the article, the beginning of which states "He was said to be acutely aware of God's presence in his life..." I don't know if that type of hagiographic tone is appropriate for an encyclopedia. --PinkBull 19:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's often difficult to write around the hagiographic tone of the original sources. Here's my rewording: "Nehmé's contemporaries made special note of his constant repetition of the mantra, 'God can see me'." Let me know if you find that acceptable. — AlekJDS talk 09:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Leonard's Church, Spernall

A stone church with a red tiled roof seen from an angle. In the foreground is the chancel with a wheel window at the east end; behind and at a higher level is the nave with a porch, and at the far end is a single bellcote

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 07:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ángel Daniel Vassallo

Created by Bds69 (talk). Nominated by Caribbean H.Q. (talk) at 02:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Turnbull

  • ... that in 1925, Doug Turnbull became the first college lacrosse player to earn first-team All-America honors four times, and to date only three players have matched that feat?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit hard to verify because the inline citation (search for "three", second occurence) is just a link to Google Books. I'd guess we'd need at least the page number?
Also, assuming the statement is correct, "only three players" should be "only three other players". Four in total, including Turnbull. Si Trew (talk) 14:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is cited by page number in the references section—page 231 (current ref #7). Here is a direct link: [2]. As for your second comment, I think you are misreading it. Turnbull was one of four, but after he did it in the 1920s, three others "matched [Turnbull's] feat". Turnbull didn't match his own feat. Strikehold (talk) 00:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't see the page number, sorry about that (perhaps I had looked at a different reference). There is a slight difficulty with the quotation – and perhaps I am being over-picky – in that it doesn't actually say there were only four (including him). It lists four, but only goes up to the last in 2004, and the book was printed in 2006, so I suppose someone else could have come along in the meantime. Is that too picky? As an alt, you could say the feat was unequaled for fifty-four years... Si Trew (talk) 13:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brock Pemberton (baseball)

Created by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 02:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Radmilla Cody

Radmilla Cody sings The Star-Spangled Banner in Navajo at the Kennedy Space Center, 2002

Created by Seb az86556 (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length of the article verified, length of the hook OK. A bit of an issue with the hook fact. The hook says that she sang the national anthem in Navajo. The ref given to support this in the article is ref no 6[3]. However, this ref does not mention which language she sang the anthem in, it just says " singer of the national anthem at Kennedy Space Center as the space shuttle launched the first American Indian into space in November" (plus the year is not mentioned here explicitly either). Do you have another ref for this? Nsk92 (talk) 18:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do You Know What I'm Going To Do Next Saturday?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 19:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have a suggestion, if you may:
ALT 1... that the children's book Do You Know What I'm Going To Do Next Saturday? has been a subject in urban legends because if some paragraphs from it were taken out of context, it could be interpreted as references to suicide and violence?

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 17:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The text (excluding the quoted passages) only reaches about 1383 characters, 117 short of the bare minimum. --Stemonitis (talk) 18:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I should probably have mentioned this the first time, but even with the length increased (thanks for that, by the way) the whole article concerns me. Your second hook concerns an "urban legend". One blog (not a reliable source, I know, but a reasonable comment) states: "The only reference to the alleged suicidal subtext of ...Next Saturday and its subsequent banning is this page on Snopes.com that thoroughly debunks it as an urban legend fueled by a single Web page." I'm not sure a single webpage (especially one that is now only accessible through archive.org) can count as an urban legend. The first hook seems to be fair, but I'm reluctant to pass it while the article focuses on one person's misinterpretation of the text (which must have been deliberate, because the accompanying photographs would have made it all clear). Maybe I'm being too harsh. Feel free to solicit a second opinion. --Stemonitis (talk) 05:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I strongly dislike the first hook as it is rather misleading. The most frequent (and default) meaning of "to blow one's head off" involves shooting with a gun. That is how I understood the hook when I read it the first and the second time. The full context of the quote, however, is very different "I'll blow horns. I'll blow and blow. Next Saturday I'll blow my head off." The article puts the meaning in context but the hook does not. A hook is supposed to be interesting, yes, but going for misleading shock value is not right. Nsk92 (talk) 06:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 17

Montfichet's Tower

5x expanded by Le Deluge (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

offline hook accepted in good faith (and nearly 10x expansion!). Good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Swietopelk I, Duke of Pomerania

5x expanded by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 05:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 offline hook accepted in good faith - good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neanderthal behavior

Created by Michael C Price (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 02:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


William Munro, 12th Baron of Foulis

Created by QuintusPetillius (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 01:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Offline ref AGF. But "chief" is not a verb, and other words need to be changed in the hook from a grammatical standpoint. How about:

Erich Ponti

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mark Buehrle's perfect game

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 18:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that President Barack Obama called to congratulate baseball pitcher Mark Buehrle after his perfect game? --PinkBull 22:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook fact all verified. Tweaked wording in ALT1 and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adiantum formosum, Adiantum aethiopicum

green fern frond

  • ... that the giant maidenhair fern (pictured) of eastern Australia may reach 2 m high, rather than the 10 to 45 cm height of the commonly cultivated maidenhair?

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 15:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Megapenthes lugens

Created by Average Earthman (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 09:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • First hook is great, way better than ALT1. My only query would be whether to drop the weevils as that hints that it might be a beastie, whereas drinking nectar sounds very royal.... Le Deluge (talk) 09:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
nah, I like the weevils, makes it sound really weird... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In any case - good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Josefina Niggli

Created/expanded by Aristophanes68 (talk) and Empty Buffer (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warm and Willing

Created by Danaphile (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

okay - the prose size is only measured at 1016 B (186 words) currently as the second section which is a series of bulleted text isn't counted. Options include making the second section into paragraph prose, or maybe (better) some material on critical reception and legacy? Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anup Rai

Created by Hunnjazal (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly Society Brasses

A flat, roughly spear-shaped, brass object, pierced with a wheel shape and the letters TFSC, and topped with a crown

Created by Dmvward (talk). Nominated by Selfnom (talk) at 19:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Fred Trosko

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Momsen

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Etta Rosales

Created by Smile1234smile (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1975 NBA Draft

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hallowell Davis, Central Institute for the Deaf

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Professor Martyn Poliakoff

  • Well I think we'd need more sources to assert that it is the most popular, which I'm 99.9% sure it is, but I didn't find a definitive source to state that... Suggestions? — raekyT 15:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Dull

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 01:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Forget to Dance

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 00:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Solanum vescum

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are loads in australia. The supermarket her had a gourmet 'bush tomato' sauce made from Solanum centrale...yum. :) 02:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Well take a picture of it it they use vescums! Victuallers (talk) 12:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thornbury Hoard

5x expanded by Bubba hotep (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Up until 22 Feb, this article was at 468 bytes; I came along four days ago and added a bit and got it up to 797 bytes (notwithstanding some trouble with someone with a grudge); I've now basically rewritten it from scratch (up to 4,903 bytes total) – hopefully this counts as a 5x expansion? – B.hoteptalk00:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've verified the hook and the 5x expansion, but your hook is a little bit too long. Perhaps finish the hook at the garden pond bit? Here's my attempt at it:
ALT1 ... that the Thornbury Hoard, third largest British find of its kind, was discovered by accident in a back garden in South Gloucestershire by a man digging a pond? WFC (talk) 00:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather ditch the bit about the "third biggest" and keep the "took two people" bit in keeping with the quirkiness?
ALT2 ... that the Thornbury Hoard was discovered in a back garden in South Gloucestershire, England by a man digging a pond, and that it took two people to carry it to the local museum? – B.hoteptalk00:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That works for me. I changed "to museum" to "to the museum" for grammatical purposes. Regards, WFC (talk) 00:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. It's late... ;) – B.hoteptalk00:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
added the "local" - can a word or two on it's "kind" be squeezed in? Johnbod (talk) 03:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I note that Shapwick Hoard was on today's DYK. No problem with that, just that I've seen in the past another author has suggested his noms were spaced out in the queue a bit, and that may be appropriate here too. Si Trew (talk) 19:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a problem with that. It normally takes four days or so for it to appear anyway. – B.hoteptalk20:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alt2 please .... I think "of its kind" is too weak. This is the best DYK criticism ever (of its kind) Victuallers (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Watford F.C. seasons, Len Dunderdale

5x expanded by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that I created Len Dunderdale and 5x expanded List of Watford F.C. seasons; I wasn't sure how to format the template to convey this. Regards, WFC (talk) 23:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ernest Wooton

ALT:that Louisiana State Rep. Ernest Wooton has challenged Governor Bobby Jindal's claim of confidentiality to many executive department documents?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hercules Renda

  • ... that Hercules Renda was described as a "midget from the hills of West Virginia" who "ran, squirmed and tackled" his way into the hearts of Michigan football fans in the 1930s?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pittsburgh Wayfinder System

Created by Alekjds (talk). Nominated by Alekjds (talk) at 22:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bienvenido Zacu Mborobainchi

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Marie

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to reword this sentence; I feel that it may need a second look. Ruby2010 (talk) 20:33, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length OK. Hook fact AGF. What do you think of this version:
ALT1: ... that though widowed and in poor health, Princess Marie of Reuss was next in succession to the Dutch throne from 1900-1909, pending the death of her childless cousin Queen Wilhelmina? Yoninah (talk) 23:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think that sentence looks great, except for one small technicality. Marie was not directly next in the succession - her nephew was (although everyone expected him to give up his claim in her favor). So maybe the sentence could look like this:
ALT2: ... that though widowed and in poor health, Princess Marie of Reuss was de facto next in succession to the Dutch throne from 1900 to 1909, pending the death of her childless cousin Queen Wilhelmina?
Does de facto work in this case? Ruby2010 (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, "de facto" means "actual". How about:
ALT3: ... that though widowed and in poor health, Princess Marie of Reuss was one of the three heirs to the Dutch throne between 1890 and 1909? Yoninah (talk) 08:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about this:
ALT4: ... that though widowed and in poor health, Princess Marie of Reuss was second-in-line to the Dutch throne from 1900 to 1909, pending the death of her childless cousin Queen Wilhelmina? Ruby2010 (talk) 19:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints' massacre

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

115 Squadron (Israel)

Created by Poliocretes (talk). Nominated by Ynhockey (talk) at 17:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Boveney

A flint church seen from the southeast, with a red tiled roof and, at the far end, a weatherboarded tower

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rulingia dasyphylla

  • Comment: a cute play on words

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 16:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have not heard that rule before. The link is somewhat tenuous and off-topic to place in each article, and I have never seen a source comparing all three words. Each is reffed in their own article though. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Black Currawong

Items mentioned in the hook are supposed to be checked as referenced in the article, which implies they would be in the article. I would think a linkified sentence saying the items should not be confused with a reference defining each of the terms would be acceptable and would fulfill the technical requirement.μηδείς (talk) 21:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done, the tree and the bird are now reffed in the article.

This hook cries out for a picture of the bird or the tree that the shrub is not to be confused with. μηδείς (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so how about:
  • ALT1 ... that in Australia, the kerrawang, which is a shrub, should not be confused with the kurrajong, a tree, or the currawong (pictured), also known as the black jay?

μηδείς (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Chicago Cubs first-round draft picks

Created by Courcelles (talk). Self nom at 12:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neat. Thanks. Hook good to go! Yoninah (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chimakum

Created by Pfly (talk). Self nom at 08:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length of the article verified, length of the hook OK. There is currently a problem with verifying the second part of the hook: that the city of Seattle was named after Chief Seattle. This fact is not mentioned anywhere in the article. This does need to be expressly stated somewhere in this article, with an in-line ref. Nsk92 (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, yes, sorry. Added the ref. Pfly (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks, entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Black Tusk (band)

  • ... that Black Tusk, a band that describes its music as "swamp metal," was formed when its members were all living on the same street?

Created by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 07:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clinton L. Riggs

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 06:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elgin Gould

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 06:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Are you referring to the hook or the individual? If the latter, shouldn't this be discussed at the article's talk page instead? As an aside, a quick check on Google Books shows that he is clearly considered influential in the urban planning/sociology fields: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], and [25]. And those are just the English language references; there are several more in French, German, and Swedish. He was also the first head coach of one of the most successful college lacrosse teams in history: [26]. If you were just referring to the hook, perhaps you can suggest an alternative. Strikehold (talk) 23:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

F. Stuart Wilkins

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trent McCleary

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 05:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and 5x+ expansion verified, length of the hook OK. A little bit of an issue with the hook fact. The hook uses the term slapshot, while the article does not (it simply says shot). Slapshot is a sufficiently technical term, so this point needs to be reconciled. Ref item 8 does use the term slap shot (I have not looked at the other refs). So I suggest adjusting the corresponding sentence in the article, with a footnote to ref 8 added there. Then everything will be in order. Nsk92 (talk) 12:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • That it was a slapshot is already mentioned: "McCleary dropped to the ice in an attempt to block a Chris Therien slapshot." I had intended that ref 3 support both that sentence and the subsequent one, but have moved Ref 8 up to support this specific sentence. Hope that suffices! Resolute 13:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, OK, thanks, I originally missed that sentence. Anyway, everything is in order now. Entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 13:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Narayan Man Bijukchhe

Narayan Man Bijukchhe

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 05:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


With flying colors

Created by Theornamentalist (talk) 03:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC) Self nom at 03:45, 17 July 2010[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 16

Battle of Ap Bau Bang II, Battle of Suoi Tre

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Ap Gu

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think Haig's future notability should be more pronounced, see ALT1 suggestion.

Chingiz Ildyrym

Created by Tuscumbia (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 15:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Foreign-language ref AGF. I changed his title from Public Commissar to Commissar of Public Roads per the way the article is written, and added links. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Skinner-Tinkham House

A brick house with pointed roof and chimney. Some of its windows are missing and a wooden section in front is in poor repair. A white wooden wing projects from the rear at the left of the image.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and 5x+ expansion verified. The hook also checks out via on-line ref, but I have a minor question. The sentence in the article corresponding to the hook fact is this: " This time he was able to make his payments, albeit at some points in cattle rather than cash, and received full title in 1833". Although the date, 1833, is not mentioned in the hook, are you sure that the date is correct and that it is 1833 and not 1832? When I looked up ref no. 2[27], the relevant bit seems to occur on page 7. The cattle thing is mentioned at the very end of paragraph three there. The date of the deed appears to be mentioned at the end of paragraph two, and it looks to be 1832. Am I looking in the wrong place? Nsk92 (talk) 12:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I changed it to 1832 ... due to the scanning job, the text is difficult to read at the normal size. Daniel Case (talk) 14:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. Entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 15:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Codex Cyprius

Description of the image

  • ... that Codex Cyprius (pictured), written without any separation, frequently uses a point-mark of interpunction according to the ancient stichometrical style of writing?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


We have 5 or 6 uncial manuscripts with complete text of the four Gospels. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tregwynt Hoard

a large house built in a T shape

  • Comment: Note: May used in a double hook below

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Aboriginal title

  • Comment: Open to alternate hooks

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Nominated by Savidan (talk) at 21:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Kohl

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that the newly described Caquetá Titi may have a total adult population of less than 250 monkeys?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 03:14, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Hoffmann

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sandy Ullrich

Expanded fivefold by LAAFan (talk). Self nom on 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Forest of Galtres

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salmon Creek Dam

View of Salmon Creek Arch Dam

  • ... that the Salmon Creek Arch Dam (pictured), located in Juneau, the capital of Alaska in USA was the world's first constant angle arch variable radius dam built in 1914 on the Salmon Creek?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some comments: According to the sources, including Alaska Electric Light and Power Company, it is officially the "Salmon Creek Dam", no Arch in the name. Also, I provided an ALT below and removed variable radius, it makes the type less confusing and some of the references, including AELPC simply use this as the type. I would also suggest using the second picture in the article, you can locate and see the dam better in the photo. Awesome article on a cool dam though.
ALT1... that the Salmon Creek Dam (pictured), in Juneau, the capital of Alaska was built in 1914 and is world's first constant-angle arch dam? --NortyNort (talk) 08:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT 1 Good to go. No problem. I thought the article was interesting. I regularly work on dam articles and this was the most technically-detailed one I have read. You also had some great references I want to use.--NortyNort (talk) 14:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daryl Wine Bar and Restaurant

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slow Dance (song)

5x expanded by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Candyo32 (talk) at 18:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listed buildings in Rivington

A tall, thin tower with narrow windows and a steeply pitched roof with a chimney on a slope behind a wooden fence. In the foreground are two large boulders on the uneven grass. The hillside beyond the tower is covered with bushes.

Created by J3Mrs (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bernard Anselme

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cully Cobb

  • ... that the southern agricultural publisher Cully Cobb, as an AAA official in 1933, directed the plowing under of cotton in an effort to boost lagging farm prices?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Griffin, Robert Galambos

a bat flying against a black background

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Savage Mostyn

Three-quarter length etching of a man, facing the viewer in an open jacket, shaven head and cap, left hand on his hip, the right resting on the barrel of a cannon. A sailing ship in the left background.

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Baughurst

5x expanded by UkPaolo (talk), Mattgirling (talk). Nominated by Mattgirling (talk) at 15:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kidnap of General Kreipe

ALT1

Self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manufacturing in Hong Kong

Created by Kayau (talk). Nominated by Kayau (talk) at 08:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • My apologies, I didn't notice that the article had been moved from your namespace. I suggest noting the date that the article is moved to the mainspace in any future nominations. BabelStone (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date and length OK. However, although the section on Industrial relocation as a whole supports the hook, I can't find a specific sentence with a single reference for the hook. Could you reword the article to make the statement that manufacturing started to decline in the 1980s due to industrial relocation explicit, or suggest a different hook? BabelStone (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 is a better hook, but still lacks an immediate reference. Please add a reference at the end of the sentence "The United States' embargo on China led to a great loss to Hong Kong's economy, as Hong Kong was a major entrepôt of China, but this forced Hong Kong to focus on manufacturing instead". BabelStone (talk) 21:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have copied the reference on the next sentence over to that one, as they are on the same page. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

River Raisin National Battlefield Park

5x expanded by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 05:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chamaecyparis eureka

Created by Kevmin (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 04:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the alt is it doenst indicate the oldest is referring to geologic time, so it could easily be mistaken to mean that C. eureka is a living species with very old trees somewhere, rather then an extinct species known only from the fossil record. --Kevmin § 02:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citadel of Arbil

Aerial view of the Citadel of Arbil

  • ... that it has been claimed that the Citadel of Arbil (pictured) is the oldest continuously inhabited site in the world?

Created/expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mark Gosling

Created by Bart133 (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A dark-skinned man in a black baseball jersey and gray pants takes a right handed baseball swing with a crowd in the background, several people wearing red.

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 03:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fixed it. Dincher (talk) 21:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas J. Deverin

  • ... that Thomas J. Deverin proposed a bill requiring New Jersey public schools to begin with a daily period of silent mediation, which both opponents and supporters saw as reintroducing school prayer?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hampton Roads Rhinos

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by Patriarca12 (talk) at 02:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • There must be scope for a quirky along the lines of :
  • ALT ... that in 1997, officials ordered rhinos off the roads of Virginia? Le Deluge (talk) 12:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I donno. Ive posted a few concerns on the talk page of the article. But right now i think it would be best if the article had more diversity in its sourcing (all the sources are from the Virginia Pilot) it seems, it also seems there is not much persistance in coverage from the event (See talk page of the article for a more elaboration). But its only my opinion of the article, others may differ on it. Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 15

Description of the image

  • Comment: The hook I took from this site (1784 als erster Protestant an der Universität Fulda Promotion zum Dr. phil.).

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Christine McKenna

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 15:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jacke Davis

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers

Created by Plumkins (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "A local atheist group" is probably redundant, I think we can get that from the fact they call themselves Iowa Atheists? And there's probably no need to name the governor in the hook, either. Le Deluge (talk) 07:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I see what you mean when you say that "a local atheist group" part may be redundant but to me the sentence sounds kind of unfinished without it. Can you suggest some other wording? As for the governor's name, I disagree. I just don't see a good reason why it should not be mentioned. After all, a specific person said that; why shouldn't the statement be attributed properly?--Plumkins (talk) 15:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • "The governor of Iowa at the time the ad was placed" already identifies him specifically, any attribution should happen in the article and there's no need to duplicate it in the hook. His name isn't relevant to the IAaF, it just distracts from them and dilutes the hook. I sort of see what you say about "a local atheist group" but it still sounds fine to me - DYK hooks are more about writing newspaper headlines than perfect English. You could have "the IAaF group." on the end, but it's always better to have the target article at the front end of the hook, as it's the star of the show, so perhaps something like :
      • ALT1... that a bus advertisement by the Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers made the Governor of Iowa feel "personally disturbed"? Le Deluge (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thank you for the alternative suggestion! I actually rather like it, except I would make "Governor of Iowa" pipe-link to "Chet Culver". The reason for that is that the DYK entries still get read after they make a show on the Main Page (I refer back to the DYK archives all the time, for example), at which time it may not be that easy to figure out just who the heck the Iowa Gov was at the time the nomination was made. Other than that, go ALT1! :)--Plumkins (talk) 02:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tonight I'll Be Staying Here with You

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 02:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Egar

5x expanded by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huasca de Ocampo

Basalt Prisms

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


SteelPath

Created by Jrod4040 (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 23:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Morris Kessler

Created by 71.184.49.218 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 23:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas G. Dunn, Democrats for Nixon

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK for Thomas G. Dunn. 5x expansion verified for Democrats for Nixon. Hook ref verified. However, I think the hook would be tighter without John Connally. How about:
ALT1: ... that Democrat Mayor Thomas G. Dunn, national co-chairman of Democrats for Nixon, was "read out of the party" for his support of Republican President Richard Nixon's 1972 re-election bid? Yoninah (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 08:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Altyn Tagh fault

satellite photograph showing a right stepping offset on Altyn Tagh fault zone with the uplifted area picked out by the extent of the snow cover

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date verified, length verified, hook refs verified.

I have moved the article from Altyn Tagh Fault to Altyn Tagh fault in accord with the policy on capitalization at WP:NAME and in accord with scholarly usage.

This has got to be the most technical hook I have ever seen. Maybe an alternatives can be suggested?μηδείς 03:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

<g> How about :
There are plenty of technical hooks here, and this is by no means my most technical, however I've tweaked ALT1 and would be happy with that. ALT2 isn't really accurate, original hook and ALT2 struck through. Mikenorton (talk) 19:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Using "anomalously high areas" rather than "mountains" is more a matter of English than science. I would dispute your change of "kink" to "bend" in ALT1 though - in the absence of other adjectives, a kink is a better one-word description of the structures as far as laymen are concerned, it gives a better idea of what's going on. And the object of the game is to get casual viewers to read the article, right? Incidentally, Altun Shan is a redirect, do we want to use the ultimate name? Le Deluge (talk) 07:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The whole area is mountainous, it's just the peaks associated with the fault bends that are higher then everything else. Regarding 'bend' versus 'kink', a kink has a sudden change in direction while a bend forms a curve, and this is a bend, so that's what I would prefer to stick with - you could call it a 'double bend' if you think that's a clearer description. I've added a section on major peaks to the Altyn Tagh page, piped the Altun Shan link accordingly and tweaked the hook to refer to the mountain. Mikenorton (talk) 08:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ola's Kool Kitchen

  • ... that Ola's Kool Kitchen was conceived by DJ Ola as a reaction against mainstream radio's focus on playlists prescribed by major record labels?

Created by Aspland11 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 21:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Sorrentini

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IL Stålkameratene

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Political killings in the Philippines (2001-2010)

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, who allegedly gave official support for Oplan Bantay Laya.

Created by Smile1234smile (talk). Nominated by Smile1234smile (talk) at 21:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nuuk Airport

5x expanded by Algkalv (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 19:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps something about water planes used before its construction would be more hoo-kish with a greater dyk-ability... just a suggestion...Algkalv (talk) 07:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stu Foord

A football player wearing a white jersey and red helmet.

  • Comment: I tried to judge the 5x expansion using the character count, which I hope is the correct way.

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


John T. Gregorio, 20th Legislative District (New Jersey)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Powers of the President of Singapore

A smiling Indian man with grey hair wearing a salmon pink shirt.

Created by Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 18:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think ALT1 is best but I don't see a direct citation on the hook. ALT2 is good as well but was it the first time he used his powers or the first time that specific power was used? I see the paragraphs that the hooks are in are referenced but the hook needs to be directly referenced. I myself am not a stickler for citing references in lead intros but for DYK and the hooks you have in it, it is necessary. Also, the intro is lengthy and portions of if are exactly identical to other parts of the article. Don't get me wrong, this is a good, structured and in-depth article but just some changes should be made.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dromia dormia

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the alt. is OK, too, but these "common names" invented by calquing the scientific name really stick in my throat. Everyone who wants to refer to the species precisely calls it Dromia dormia (23,000 Google hits vs. < 700 for "sleepy sponge crab"). --Stemonitis (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Kramish

  • ... that though critically injured in a 1944 blast that was "perhaps then the largest release in history of radioactive materials", Arnold Kramish credited his survival to his mother's chicken soup?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zaleski Mound Group

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1

A large grass-covered mound

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • It may need a copyedit. For example, the word 'valuable' sounds like quite a POV, and I also spotted a fragment. Wait a moment, I spotted another one. Hang on, where are they? Aw, maybe I wasn't that sane when I was looking at the article. :) Anyway I still think it would benefit through a minor copyedit. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Valuable" is what the sources say, and anyway only the more valuable archaeological sites qualify for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Places. Please read the bottom of the left column of PDF page 27 (marked as page 21 in the bottom right corner of the page) of this National Park Service document, which I've used for citation #5 in the article. Nyttend (talk) 23:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • When multiple reliable sources (here the book and the fact of National Register listing) state that it is valuable, we don't need to say "according to...". It's not a matter of opinion, such as it would be if I were saying "_____ is very beautiful"; it's no different from (simply more understandable than) saying "...rich archaeological sites". Let me ask: which of the three instances do you question — in the intro, or in the Ranger Station section, or in the Methodist Church section, or two of them, or all of them? Nyttend (talk) 03:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • They are valuable in general. Valuable for ancient history, archaeology, etc as the sources and article states. I think the word valuable is irrelevant for argument. Where I did get tripped up in this article is which mound was more valuable, the one behind the Methodist church or the ranger station? It isn't clearly explained. Also, mention of the fact that there were six mounds originally should be in the intro along with some wording on how old they may be...to reduce confusion.--NortyNort (talk) 03:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Will be good to go when you fix the issue of which is most valuable. You change valuable to noteworthy. Add the "six" to the lead. RlevseTalk 11:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone (Olympics song)

  • ... that "Everyone", the official theme song of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics held in Singapore, was sung by five different artistes each representing his or her continent?

Created by KiasuKiasiMan (talk). Nominated by AngChenrui (talk) at 12:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article is not long enough however. I'm in the hope someone would help to expand it to a suitable length, so that it would meet the DYK criterion on article length - I currently don't have the time to do so. If however no one expands the article and this nomination is due, you may alert me at my talk page and I'll see how I can help. Thanks, AngChenrui (talk) 12:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Plumeri

The outside facade of a baseball stadium with a flag on top

ALT1: ... that Joe Plumeri, CEO of Willis Group Holdings, got his start by interviewing accidentally with what he thought was a law firm, but which was a small brokerage of the future CEO of Citigroup?

Created by Epeefleche. Nominated by --Epeefleche (talk) 07:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think Sandy would make the hook best. See ALT2 suggestion:
That ALT works for me as well. Also, one could add "mistakenly" before "thought" in ALT2, but that may be unnecessary.--Epeefleche (talk) 12:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baffin Bay, Baffin Bay (Texas)

An iceberg caught in sea ice near the coast of the Arctic Baffin Bay

  • ... that there are two Baffin Bays (one pictured) in the North America with a volume difference of about a million?
  • Comment: See "etymology" in Baffin Bay (Texas). The math is area*average depth: 689000x861/(219x2.3). The hook can be said in a dozens of ways, not sure which one is better.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think that 'difference' works here as it doesn't make it clear that it's a ratio, how about
ALT1 ... that although there are two Baffin Bays in North America, one of them (pictured) contains about a million times as much water as the other? Mikenorton (talk) 08:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. "Although" doesn't work in ALT1, IMO, thus ALT1a ... that there are two Baffin Bays in North America, one (pictured) containing about a million times more water than the other? Materialscientist (talk) 09:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strobilomyces foveatus

  • Comment: Sorry, it's weak, but there's not much to work with.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moon Museum

Andy Warhol in a jacket and tie, pictured at the White House

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I think that hook is a little misleading. The article says "He created a stylized version of his initials which, when viewed at certain angles, can appear as a rocket ship or a penis." Perhaps a more accurate if less sensational hook would be "... that tiny drawings by Andy Warhol (pictured) and five other prominent artists may be on the moon?" - Station1 (talk) 07:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what you are saying, but i think the fact it looks like one, and is cited to look like one in many references, is too good to miss... if we switched the word "of" to "resembling" would that be better? something like...
ALT 2 ... that a drawing resembling a penis by Andy Warhol (pictured) may be on the moon?--Found5dollar (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Better, yes. You do have a point. Station1 (talk) 19:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3... that what looks like Andy Warhol's penis may have reached the moon? Le Deluge (talk) 07:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't this even more misleading than my original hook? --Found5dollar (talk) 11:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about we do this ...
ALT4... that you may be able to see Andy Warhol's penis on the moon
... and save it for next April Fool's Day? Daniel Case (talk) 04:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I second ALT4 μηδείς (talk) 04:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I usually help out with the April Fools DYK each year, and I would be fine with it going there, but I think I would perfer, and it would be better, for this to stay at the regular DYK. To get ALT 2, I did not have to stretch the truth or in any way alter the facts. Even though it is outrageous, it is not misleading at all. At April Fools our goal is to confuse people with plays on words, misdirection, and unrelated facts. I think that this article can create fantastic and outrageous hooks with out being at all misleading. Basically, all that I am saying is that I am fine either way, but i think it is best for regular DYK. I will be fine with whatever the concenseus is.--Found5dollar (talk) 14:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Murdough

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 00:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dismiss seems to be too strong of a word because he still is trying to get on their ballot. Also, he is "seeking" not "sought". How about ALT1? --NortyNort (Holla) 11:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 14

Alexander Nevsky Church, Copenhagen, Bredgade

Alexander Nevsky Church, Bredgade, Copenhagen

Created by Ramblersen (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mechanics' Bank and Trust Company Building

Created by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Misread. The land the building sits on was set aside for the college in the 1790s. The building was constructed in the early 1900s, and is unrelated to the university. I changed the wording in the article to further clarify this. Bms4880 (talk) 03:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of St. John Berchmans

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Creation, length and hook verified. Nice article and you made the threshold. "Few" is defined as a small number or not many, so I have no qualms with that word instead of eight. The church's website appeared to be down, I viewed a cached version to verify. I also put "St." in the wikilink--NortyNort (Holla) 10:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Kaiser (1911)

A large gray battleship steams ahead. Dark black smoke pours from its two funnels

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length Ok, image is in public domain, AGF the source, but I would say the hook differently, e.g. as

Da Nang Port

  • ... that despite its lack of dedicated tourism infrastructure, 12 cruise ships docked at Da Nang Port in January and February 2010 alone, carrying 6,477 passengers?

5x expanded by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 18:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lancken-Granitz dolmens

Lancken-Granitz, easternmost dolmen

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 17:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lancken-Granitz dolmen Nr. 6, entrance

Comment: Either image might fit hook 1, but only the second one fits ALT1. The hooks can be confirmed by 8.4. this online source (Holtorf, U of Toronto, details in the article's bibliography). Skäpperöd (talk) 06:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Rivadavia class battleship

A battleship under construction

  • ... that the Rivadavia-class battleships (pictured) were the subject of a vicious competition between France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, and the United States?

5x expanded by The ed17 (talk), Dank (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 05:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules: "Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace."--PinkBull 16:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 13

Scenes from the Passion of Christ

Created by Theramin (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Libraries in Cardiff

Created by Welshleprechaun (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted a note on the author's usertalkpage to ask for clarification and more refs. Here's an alt.hook:

  • The first ref states when the library opened, but confusingly the second ref talks about an event that happened before the library's opening, i.e. the Public Libraries Act of 1855, and that Cardiff was the first town in Wales to open a public library under this act. Welshleprechaun 11:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
approve alt RlevseTalk 12:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sam P. McBirney

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 18:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The fact in the hook is not specifically cited in the article, and the closest cite is offline. Please make the cite explicit, and if it is offline, please confirm it. This is a controversial fact and needs to be well cited. Length and date are otherwise ok, nice article.--Jarhed (talk) 06:18, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
checks out. RlevseTalk 12:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of hoards in Britain

Created by BabelStone (talk), Bubba hotep (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hoards twice in one sentence is a bit repetitious. How about "... that there are over 1,200 hoards in Britain from the Roman period?" It's still a bit bland; if something about the motivation for hoards (ie: buried in times of war or unrest) could be added I think the hook could be made more interesting. Nev1 (talk) 23:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
appr alt4. RlevseTalk 12:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glyn Pardoe

5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and 5x+ expansion verified. I have a question about the hook. Is Pardoe still the youngest ever player to play for Manchester City? Or was he the youngest ever to play for Manchester City up to that point when he started in 1962? I assume it is the latter but would like to make sure. The sentence in the article "Aged 15 years and 314 days, he became Manchester City's youngest ever player". This sounds slightly ambiguous (as to whether he still holds that record). Nsk92 (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the record still stands. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe then the hook and the corresponding sentence in the article need to be tweaked to make that fact clear. Nsk92 (talk) 19:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
alt hook: ... that aged 15 years and 314 days when he made his debut in 1962, Glyn Pardoe is the youngest footballer ever to play for Manchester City? Oldelpaso (talk) 09:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sharks, that does not work. The source cited for this is dated 2006, and now it is 2010. A more recent source would be needed. I am marking the original hook as verified. If you have an idea on how to make the Alt hook work (with rewording or new sources), I'd be interested in that too. Nsk92 (talk) 17:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How recent would it need to be? It is demonstrably true by inspection of squadlists from 2006-present, but it seems silly to add an extra cite for every season the record isn't broken, particularly as the rules currently forbid teams from fielding under-16s. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about just adding "as of 2006" to the hook:
alt hook :...that aged 15 years and 314 days when he made his debut in 1962, Glyn Pardoe is the youngest footballer ever to play for Manchester City, as of 2006?--PinkBull 16:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Ramasar

5x expanded by User:Bearian (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length verified (expanded from a redirect). However, there is an issue with verifying the hook fact. The relevant sentence in the article (In the NYC Ballet section of the article) reads "Ramasar is one of the few Asian American professional ballet dancers nowadays." The sentence has two in-line refs. The second one is to here[28] - a discussion forum, certainly does not pass WP:RS, particularly for a DYK entry to be featured at the main page. The first ref is to an article (actually a collection of quotes from several people) in Dance Magazine[29]. This is fine in terms of WP:RS, but after looking through this reference, I could not find a place there which actually directly supports the hook fact. The closest seems to be a quote from David Hochoy. It reads "When I began studying dance in the 1970s I had never seen any Asian dancers and I didn't know if I would have a future in dance. That began to change when I saw the Ailey company and their Asian dancers. When I joined the Martha Graham Company, Martha had a fascination with Asian people...." The quote does not say anything about the state of affairs nowadays and it does not mention Amar Ramasar at all. Did I miss something and was there another quote in this source that addresses the issue directly on point? Nsk92 (talk) 11:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I haven't checked the refs for this one yet, but ALT1 hook is too long, 236 characters, which is above the 200 character limit. Needs to be shortened. Nsk92 (talk) 14:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism of art

Central part of Ivan Grozny and his son Ivan cut with a knife in 1913 Central part by Rokeby Venus cut with a knife in 1914

  • ... that the most popular tools of art vandals include acid and knife (result pictured)?

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Maybe I'm being stupid or pernickety, but I can't see anywhere in the article where it says that acid and knifes are the most popular tools. I can see that they are maybe the most common, but I think we need a source to say that they are the most popular. Maybe we could take a different approach instead:
ALT1 ... that The Little Mermaid has been repeatedly targeted by art vandals? Smartse (talk) 21:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see what I can do about the reference. For now, I would oppose ALT1, because its fact is well known and is hard to support with a picture, and suggest
ALT2... that a number of famous paintings were cut with a knife during a public exhibition (result pictured)?
Here is an idea...
ALT 3... that a painting by Cy Twombly had over 1500€ worth of damage done to it by a woman who kissed the artwork?--Found5dollar (talk) 11:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Kissing vandalism" is a good idea; two problems with it are (i) I do like those two images above, and have none for kissing (ii) 1500€ is what she was ordered to pay by court, I'm not sure this is the amount of damage (the plaintiff claimed $47,000). Materialscientist (talk) 12:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
appr alt3 RlevseTalk 13:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned here, most NRHP forms are prepared by private citizens and therefore, most are not considered public domain. The Hope Park Mill form was prepared by "Elizabeth S. David, Historic Preservation Planner" from the "Fairfax County Office of Comprehensive Planning", so she is not a federal employee. APK whisper in my ear 05:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The NRHP nomination form is a Federal document and record, and there are no copyrights listed on the form. Also, I would like to note that Wikipedia's guidance on NRHP forms usage has no internal citations. Such text would not be accepted in a Wikipedia article, so it probably shouldn't be used as guidance until it meets Wikipedia's own sourcing standards. In the meantime, I've removed the non-paraphrased text in question from the article. The proposed DYK fact did not contain information from the NRHP nomination form. --Caponer (talk) 11:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The form is a federal document, but a federal employee did not write it. See here. APK whisper in my ear 14:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Even if the form were a public domain document, anything you copied from it wouldn't count toward the DYK total, because the 1,500 characters must be your own words. Nyttend (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please rest assured that the non-paraphrased text in question was superfluous and in a section that has since been taken out. The prose of the article that I wrote stands on its own and far exceeds the 1,500 character minimum. The non-paraphrased (but inline cited) text shouldn't have been included in the first place, so I apologize for my misstep. The tribe has spoken and I stand corrected. --Caponer (talk) 23:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
RlevseTalk 13:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

1 August, ninth Sunday after Trinity

Was frag ich nach der Welt, BWV 94

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also