Talk:List of The Simpsons episodes (season 21–present): Difference between revisions

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Is this the right place?

I just added a lot of infos for the simpsons episode list, and discovered tviv.org. So I was just wondering if wikipedia was the right place for such detailed information???

This does not just concern the simpsons of course,... but shouldn't there just be a link to tviv.org? Is this detailled information necessary in an encyclopedia? Or is it just that tviv.org is redundant?

I also wondered... In my opinion the redirection should be from List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes to The_Simpsons/Episode_List not the opposite. If nobody appeals I will change it.

enyo 17:18, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Don't redirect! The commonly accepted style is to not use slash separaters to organize articles in a hierarchy. --Optichan 19:10, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Why is this? In my opinion it makes much more sense with slash hierarchies...

enyo 10:29, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

First comment

It's great that this list exists. Do you know what the dates for the seasons are? -- Merphant

Indeed I do and production numbers. - fonzy

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What does "Series 1", "Series 2", "Series 3" mean? There has only been one series, except for the shorts on the "Tracey Ullman Show". -- Zoe

What the Brits call a "series", the Americans, I think, call a "season". Is it that that's causing the confusion here? I didn't know there was any ambiguity about the word "series" in this context, I must admit. I suppose "season" might be better if there is, as that should make sense to most UK readers, who would know the word as an American usage (other countries, I don't know about). --Camembert

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, season would probably be best for us limited Americans.  :) To us, a series is a completely separate program(me). -- Zoe

I did wonder what I should use when i was creating this. Being A "Brit" i used teh word series. - fonzy

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I wonder if someone could add episode codes to the list, instead of just dates. The codes are sometimes more useful. Thanks! David 21:10 Dec 23, 2002 (UTC)

Do TV guides publish the episode code in the reruns schedules? If yes, then it is very useful info. Kowloonese 19:45, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

What about brief episode summaries? I'd find that more useful. Bagpuss

I would like to see the celebrity cameo listed along side the episode. Kowloonese 19:45, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Next to the Trade center episode there is the comment that this has been removed from syndication in the US since 9/11. I had thought this would be the case as well and was shocked when I saw this episode on wxmi in 2003. Does any one have a reference for the removal from syndication? If not I think I will remove the comment Steven jones 02:01, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

new tables

The new table is good; but it would be better to put each season on a separate page (with a page for the shorts). Andy Mabbett 16:18, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That's a good idea but I think we should start by making a table for each season and then we can divide the page into 16 different pages for the 16 seasons plus another page for the shorts. I'll start working on Season 2 soon. Paul99 16:35, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

wouldn't it be better to use these tables?

Pic	Title	Airdate	Production Code	TV Ratings (viewers)	#
File:GABF09.jpg	The Father, The Son, and The Holy Guest Star	May 15	GABF09	9.4 million	356
	Bart and Homer are tempted to convert to Catholicism. Liam Neeson guest stars

enyo 17:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Prettytable shouldn't be used anymore - use class="wikitable" instead. -Fred Bradstadt 07:50, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, then wikitable... I ment the structure of the table in fact (having 2 rows for each episode...). With the thumbnails now added, this would make more sense. --enyo 09:05, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

OK, I changed just a bit in the proposed table above (removed bgcolor="#CCCCCC"). Besides that, I like the suggestion of having two rows for each episode, next to the thumbnail. -Fred Bradstadt 09:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

On the other hand, the episode number is in the leftmost table cell in all tables - shouldn't we keep it there, and then have the screenshot at the rightmost table cell, filling 2 rows:

#	Title	Airdate	Production Code	TV Ratings (viewers)	Pic
356	The Father, The Son, and The Holy Guest Star	May 15	GABF09	9.4 million	File:GABF09.jpg
Bart and Homer are tempted to convert to Catholicism. Liam Neeson guest stars

Anyway, I'd like to keep the design consistent with the tables without thumbnails, so that the title, airdate, production code etc. is in the same order throughout the page.

-Fred Bradstadt 18:02, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Am I the only one who doesn't like the new tables? For starters they are not consistant between seasons, and they do not line up correctly with the old tables. And also, what exactly is the point of the color coding? --SeXyRed 13:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Episode links

Don't people think that instead of, say linking an episode to Bart the Genius it should be linked to The Simpsons/Bart the Genius. This would both avoid any potential future conflicts with article names(if relavent), and link up the episodes with the simpsons. (Perhaps even putting this page in The Simpsons/List of The Simpsons episodes and the episodes in a sub of that... - Xgkkp 18:44, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That's a good idea. If someone wants to make that change, they can. For now i'll concentrate on finishing the tables for the seasons. Paul99 21:06, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. It is considered standard on Wikipedia not to use subdirectory pages. The standard solution is to use a name like Bart the Genius (Simpsons) when there is already an article about Bart the Genius. But that problem won't happen very often with Simpsons episodes. Dbenbenn 02:38, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And also, future conflicts are just that. Apparantly you're supposed to avoid the paranthesis when possible; we should probably wait to move the articles when a more important article demands the initial space :) --Headcase 23:47, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd really like to see all of the The Simpsons episodes for a season collected together in articles such as The Simpsons: Season Six, rather than taking up their own individual articles and using server space with their images. B.S. 03:24, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

The individual episode articles have absolutely no negative impact on server space and performance. It would be much less efficient to merge them all into one huge collective page, as the entire page and all its images would have to be loaded every time someone looked up a single episode. -Kaizersoze 04:12, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

I'd wholly recommend "TITLE (Simpsons episode)". Cburnett 00:23, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

I really don't understand why subdirectory pages shouldn't be used... in my opinion this would be the most beautiful way to organize all this information!! I mean.... 'Simple_Simpson' should not be a wikipedia entry on itself like this.... thats just wrong! this is just a subarticle of the simpsons.. Well I'm not very used to wiki, could someone please tell me where these discussions take place normally? or where stuff like this gets decided ?

--enyo 09:22, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Regarding season 17

I don't think we need a table for season 17 yet. Hardly anything is known about it, and the season 16 section has barely been started. Kaizersoze 20:54, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

On a different note, I'm questioning the episodes airing in September. For the past several years, Fox has started airing new episodes with "Treehouse" in Novermber. It's possible they'll break with tradition, but is there a source saying they will?Bjones

Regarding the listing of Halloween episodes

Perhaps it should be pointed out that the Halloween special in which groundskeeper Willie attacks the towns children in their dreams is an abvious spoof of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies... IAmAndrewsSoul 16:14, Dec 18, 2004.

A question regarding numbering of episodes

===>Help Can anyone tell me why the 302nd episode was touted as the 300th, and the 351st as the 350th? Thanks. Justin (koavf) 23:20, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

I believe it's explained in the article for the "300th episode". Something to do with sweeps or something. Optichan 02:36, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Good List

GOod list I modeled it for the List of King of the Hill episodes article. If someone wants to help out that would be great, esp. with episode summaries. --ShaunMacPherson 29 June 2005 12:38 (UTC)

Production Code

Is there any logic behind the prod. code? --130.243.79.252 16:41, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Sure there is. They signify the order in which the episodes were produced, but they don't always air in that order. The series started out with the 7GXX production line, and here's an explanation of the rest:

• 7Gxx - Season one - first 13 episodes (incidentally this is what Sector 7G was named after) (the G probably came from Gracie Films, the production company).
• xFxx - Seasons two through nine switched to production codes with F as the second letter for whatever reason.
  • 7F - season 2
  • 8F - season 3
  • 9F - season 4
  • 1F - season 5
  • -through-
  • 5F - season 9
• XABFXX - The show switched to these longer numbers, possibly to fit in better with Futurama (xACVxx) and Family Guy (xACXxx) and also because they were running out of numbers to use for the xFxx line.
  • AABF - season 10
  • -through-
  • HABF - season 17
• 3Gxx - this was a special production line that consisted of four episodes written by a separate staff headed by Al Jean and Mike Reiss, while the regularstaff was working on the xFxx production line. The four episodes aired in a few different seasons.

--Kaizersoze 04:36, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

List of The Simpsons TV ads

If the above topic survives the vfd at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of The Simpsons TV ads, I recommend deleting the advertisements section from the article here. Any objections? -- BDAbramson ^talk 19:35, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject - List of Television Episodes

We need some volunteers to give input on how a list of television episodes (such as this one) should look. Please follow the link at the top and join the project. Otherwise, I hope there are some fans who are willing to adjust this page to match the preferred format as described on the page. Thanks!--Will2k 14:47, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad a list is available, although there are also episode guides I can check. I'm sort of a fan. Although I think the show declined a bit around season 10, but has rebounded a bit recently. Anyway I'm changing this to incomplete lists of Movie, TV, etc. I hope that's okay. It's just that "Incomplete lists" is very crowded right now. I'm not trying to screw up where people find this. If anything it might be easier at the new place--T. Anthony 06:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Deletion

List of The Simpsons episodes by theme has been deleted, just letting people know. - Matthew238 02:34, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Can't create an episode's article

I've been creating anonymously for over two years by now. It was certainly a shock to for me to read about this experimental creation limitation (announced here). As a Ricky Gervais fan I was attempting to add some details, available from Ricky's site about the Gervais-written episode "Homer Simpson, This is Your Wife", . 66.167.253.134 20:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC).

Far too long

This is just too big. I'm not saying that it isn't a good resource, but it's so big it makes it hard to find a particular episode. I think we should make articles for "List of The Simpsons episodes in Series One" or something, and make List of The Simpsons episodes into a disambiguation page.

While I agree the page is rather long, I don't feel splitting it down into separate pages would be very beneficial to those looking for a specific episode without knowledge of which season it was from. - Wezzo 14:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, looking back up the talk page, it looks as though this has already been planned. Can't say I agree with it, but it looks like such a plan may go ahead. - Wezzo 14:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't like the idea of spliting this page. It is more convienant the way it is. Every episode I'm looking for right in the page. Splitting it would cause some difficulties in scrolling through episodes. - Ted87

Me neither. I know it takes a long time for the page to load for some, but I really don't know what episode is in what season. Firefox does a good job of rendering the page as it loads, you may want to try that browser.—Fitch 19:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

IMO splitting is a bad idea. I've used this list countless times with no trouble whatsoever. When you know the name but not the season of an episode you can Ctrl-F it, which would be a lot harder split up. The ToC links make travelling to distant seasons easy. I really don't see the prob. Ludraman 21:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Could we not simply make the links disambiguation page links to "List of The Simpsons episodes (Season One" etc., and then underneath put "Episodes in this season" and then a brief listing of the titles of the episodes in the season. It would be a compact listing, only 20 or so lines long for each season. This would actully be making it easier to search for an episodes, and split up the article at the same time!

• At the very least, simplify the page -- remove the tables and the images. Not everyone has broadband, after all. tregoweth 05:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest that we keep the current page, but also create a simpler version as Tregoweth suggested. This way both pages can be linked to from the main page giving the user the choice. I personally like the current page with the screenshots, but I can see Tregoweth's point about it being to large for dial up users. --SeXyRed 11:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree keep the current page but also make pages for the seperate seasons Discordance 16:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

But this way we will have all information entered 2 times! This will make it hard to keep articles up to date, and is a waste of space.

I still think, that having the whole list, is more annoying to people who'd like to split them up, than it is annoying to have seperate articles for the people who'd like to keep it that way. enyo 15:38, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Which Episode was this?

What episode was it where there was a huge lottery jackpot in Sprinfield and Kent Brockman won it?

--I may be wrong but I think it may have been the episode called "Dog of Death" in which Santas Little Helper gets sick.

you are correct. swidly 01:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Unlock this page right now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.21.46.111 (talk • contribs)

spliting

It should not be split because I like to be able to see it all on one page --Adam1213 Talk + 22:46, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Seing all episodes on one page is an advantage, but I think compared to the disadvantage of having to load the whole page it's not important.

In my opinion the best way would be a simple list of the simpsons episodes, without description, just the name and the number of each episode. And then you can select 1 episode or 1 season to see the detailed list.

Loading the whole Simpsons Episode List site just takes too long! The pictures get loaded minutes later (if they get loaded), and I don't like to scroll around in this huge list!

enyo 16:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thought I'd throw in my three cents. I think it should be left as is, but also made into separate pages with more details for each season. Reason being I like hitting ctrl f to find a particular ep now and then. Baseballfan 02:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[Unsigned comment]

Unlock this page right now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.21.35.114 (talk • contribs) The list needs to be updated - there's a new episode on January 29. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.55.203 (talk • contribs)

• I moved this comment from the top and added attributions. Also, if you read Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, you will see that editing is only blocked for unregistered editors and editors with accounts newer than four days." If you sign up for an account and are patient, you too can edit semi-protected pages. tregoweth 05:35, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Season 5 Tables

I've changed the table layout to match that of seasons 1-4. The only problem is I don't know the code for the colour red. Could someone who does know please change it to red (because that's the boxset colour). --DChiuch 06:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanx to DVD Smith for changing the season 5 colour to red, and to Xls for changing the season 6 layout. Instead of grey could someone change it to yellow (the boxset is yellow). --DChiuch 04:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The standard S6 box set is black - I think we should use that (or at least dark grey, so that we can still see the writing). If we used yellow (the head box colour) then we'd have to use yellow for seasons 7-10 too. For S7 the blue-purple colour should be used, because the standard box is that colour. EDIT: Someone's already done that, but the S7 text could be made clearer. EDIT 2: Done. --DVD Smith 21:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Splitting Article

I think we should vote on whether we are going to split the article or not. Does anyone know how to create a vote page? The page is very long but it is convenient like this. I suggest we have pages in groups of 5 seasons, a page for the shorts, and a page for other things like music videos and television commercials; all accessable from a disambiguation page. My vote would be to split it. So people that use this page, could you either create a vote page if you know how to, or just say your vote here. --DChiuch 04:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images - need to be removed

All of the screen shots in the article are licenced under fair use (well I checked most). But they aren't meeting the requirements of fair use, and should be removed (and some, if not all, deleted). I'm going to go through each of the images and deal with them, I'm just letting you know that this article/list will look different if/when all of the images are gone.--Commander Keane 07:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Why do you care? Your not an administrator so why must you delete the images and reduce the quality of this article? Sure it might be copyright infringment but do you really think Fox is going to care? --DChiuch 07:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Um I am an admin, and I care because having the images on this page is against the law - and thus threatens Wikipedia's validity. If Fox don't care then you could email them and ask them to release all the screenshots under a free licence (eg public domain would be nice). I'd love to keep the images, but I'd like to keep Wikipedia running (ie no law suits) too. If you do send that email to fox let me know, I won't delete any until they respond.--Commander Keane 07:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

The images can be made fair use, you need to make sure each image relates to the main plot mentioned in the episode summary or a central character of the episode with appropiate captions, sourcing and fair use rationale on the image page. I recently worked on List of South Park episodes which has become a featured list after i reworked all the images on the page. During the nomination it was agreed by everyone that the images under wikipedia's current policies are now fair use. If anyone can take the time the images on this page can be made fair use but it will take a lot of work and i cant guarantee wiki policy wont tighten to the point they have to come down in the end anyway. Discordance 17:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Repeated bogus Season 18 edits

We need to find some way of stopping people from making the same edits to Seasons Seventeen and Eighteen - it's so annoying to have to delete it every time. Things like "Wrecks of the Homeribbean" and "Simpsons Christmas Stories II" are complete bull. DVD Smith 18:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

We should make a rule that when adding new episodes you have to supply a source. This will stop people making fake episodes. If you agree with this rule reply here. --DChiuch 05:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. All my info comes from fansite No Homers Club, which always gets its information from genuine sources. I've noticed that all of the bogus edits are done by anonymous people - maybe the semi-protection needs to be reinstated. DVD Smith 16:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

That's true. I agree, we should reinstate it. Do you know how to make that rule? If so I think we all agree that it should be reinstated. Also we should say that you have to include a edit summary and a source of your information. --DChiuch 07:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Problem is, I have no idea how to go about that. Maybe we sould ask Tregoweth or someone who does. --DVD Smith 14:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The article remained in good shape when the semi-protection policy was in place, so I would also agree on its reinstatement. Keit 01:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, so its agreed, we will reinstate it. Does anyone know how? We should ask the person that did it previously to do it again. Does anyone know who did it? --DChiuch 04:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

By the looks of the Unsigned Comment section, it was Tregoweth. And even if he didn't put it in place, he would know who did. --DVD Smith 11:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

• Hey, all -- I've re-protected the article. Edit away! :) tregoweth 14:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm gonna add the genuine S18 info. Thanks, Trego. --DVD Smith 21:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

THX logo?

Which episode was the THX logo used in?

• That would be Burns' Heir (1F16). The THX logo/sound shows up right before Mr. Burns' message looking for an heir. Baseballfan 10:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

List of The Simpsons media

I think things like the music videos and links to the ads and shorts etc should be moved to the above page. This page should be about episodes only. Creating a media page will assist in disambiguating this page somewhat. Any objections? Discordance 19:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)