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Haha, sorry about that. I removed the notice because I felt the thread starter should notify any parties. :) -- '''[[User:LuK3|<span style="color:#DC143C"><span style="font-family:Palatino">Luke</span></span>]] [[User_talk:LuK3|<span style="color:#000080"><span style="font-family:Palatino">(Talk)</span></span>]]''' 17:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Haha, sorry about that. I removed the notice because I felt the thread starter should notify any parties. :) -- '''[[User:LuK3|<span style="color:#DC143C"><span style="font-family:Palatino">Luke</span></span>]] [[User_talk:LuK3|<span style="color:#000080"><span style="font-family:Palatino">(Talk)</span></span>]]''' 17:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
:No worries, I'm not a hater, and I wasn't upset [[File:Face-wink.svg|18px|link=]]. It's just that ANI has a way of making my eyeballs pop out of my head in frustration due to the edit conflicts. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre|contribs]]) 17:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
:No worries, I'm not a hater, and I wasn't upset [[File:Face-wink.svg|18px|link=]]. It's just that ANI has a way of making my eyeballs pop out of my head in frustration due to the edit conflicts. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre|contribs]]) 17:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

== User talk:Penyulap is disrupting the poll at ''Sgt Pepper'' ==

Now [[User talk:Penyulap]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band&diff=503369715&oldid=503358916 is disrupting the straw poll] at ''Sgt Pepper''. What should I do, can you help with this please? ~ [[User:GabeMc|<font color="green">GabeMc</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:GabeMc|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/GabeMc|contribs]])</sup> 01:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Ron B. Thomson, File:Great Ex Telescope Telescope.jpg

Hello, Magog the Ogre. You have new messages at Ron B. Thomson's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time.

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Arbitration...

So you just chose to shoot the gun from my shoulder when you lost your temper.... or was there something I did not see? Because nothing has been done on those loads of reports and I wake up in the morning, see you two in a row and an arbcom filed involving me. Anyway, there are two more users involved: DBigXray and Vibhijain and another topic involved: Afghanistan... mind adding them to the list? --lTopGunl (talk) 13:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well DBigXray and Vibhijain have never been blocked for being disruptive and edit warring, neither have they been reprimanded by the involved or uninvolved admins. Just because I have participated in the discussions and received a Threat from TopGun does not mean their name needs to be included in the soup. --DBigXray 13:27, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Same is the case with me. Unproved allegations does not makes on involved in a dispute. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Guess that proved my point ...I'll add them later if you don't, but better that you do as you started it. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Link for unaware onlookers --DBigXray 15:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TopGun, you are welcome to ask that Afghanistan be included by adding your own statement. Future Perfect at Sunrise already did so. Also, I find your characterization of my arbcom request as only because I lost my temper to be a gross exaggeration: this request has been brewing for a long time. Also, frankly, it was not "shooting over your shoulder" (for a number of reasons). Magog the Ogre (talk) 12:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say it was "only because of it"... it has been brewing since long but I didn't see anything else. Alright, I'll add the editors and the topic. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And in case my name is kept, then User:Smsarmad should be also added, as he is more involved than me. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:35, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[Talk page stalker:] People, it's no use fighting over who gets on that list of "parties". It has absolutely no practical significance. This is not an Arbcom "case" where the arbs are going to hand out sanctions to individual participants. Whether you are listed there or not makes no practical difference at all. They are only going to implement discretionary sanctions, and those of course will apply to everybody, no matter if they were mentioned here. Fut.Perf. 10:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Magog! Some users have found the new feature you helped me with. Cool. But it seems that a few files may be tagged by a mistake. You allready have a lot of work but if you could add the category to your list perhaps you could quick scan the category from time to time to see if there is any likely copyvios. I try not to move bad files to Commons but we can´t be sure that I'm the only one that moves files from that category. --MGA73 (talk) 19:57, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep your so very neutral, remove your attack calling me a bigot from your statementhere or I will. Darkness Shines (talk) 02:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

Generally speaking, without an extremely convincing reason, edits to redact personal attacks should not be reverted. I have reverted your revert - please do not revert, as this action is taken by me in my capacity as an Arbitration clerk. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 13:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As a side note, in my opinion, this incident — and the subsequent ANEW report — is clear evidence that you are not neutral when it comes to Darkness Shines' edits and, as such, you should consider yourself WP:INVOLVED with regard to him. As a consequence, I feel I need to ask you to refrain from acting in an administrative capacity in situations where DS is concerned. Salvio Let's talk about it! 14:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How in the world is stating that someone else claimed the subject is a racist and that I agree a personal attack and not relevant? Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Linking (to the original quote) would have sufficed; reproducing the personal attack is not necessary. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 15:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And yet now you've removed it so I can't even link to it. So stating in an arbcom case that someone has been accused of being a racist is now against the rules, and the subject himself can remove said "personal attacks"? Are you seriously stating that quoting evidence against someone can be removed by the subject if they think that constitutes a "personal attack"? Seriously? Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You could have said that "several personal attacks were made", without using the word. (The template is a suppression of your words; it was not deleted.) If you can alter that part of the sentence to just link to them (without using the slur), you will be fine. The issue is the (correctly) part - just by adding that it implies you agree with the slur and called him so, which is a personal attack. By adding that quantifier, you're no longer quoting what people said, but you're adding your own opinion.
Think about it: Someone could say that I'm short. By quoting "he was called short" you're quoting someone said (without adding your own opinion); by saying "he was (correctly) called short" you are implying you also believe me to be short. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 15:24, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So let me get this straight: in a potential ArbCom case, in which the entire crux of the issue revolves around the misbehavior and WP:BATTLEGROUND mindset of the people involved, I, the person who brought the case before ArbCom, am not allowed to opine that someone is a racist (i.e., takes a BATTLEGROUND mindset to life) or exhibits racist tendencies (i.e., acts in a way consistent with said battleground mindset)? That is seriously what you're stating? Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you have serious proof that someone IS a racist, even opining one is a personal attack. BATTLEGROUND mindset to life != racist. Please be very, very careful with how you choose your words. You can use words that do not cross into personal attacks. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 16:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't answered my question. And you've committed a logical fallacy; battleground mindset does not equal necessarily racist, but racist does necessarily equal battleground mindset. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(reset indent) That's like saying a white horse is not a horse. What we're trying to tell you is that there are better ways to opine compared to resorting to racial slurs and not politically correct remarks. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 16:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here. My question goes unanswered. So I will repeat it: in a potential ArbCom case, in which the entire crux of the issue revolves around the misbehavior and WP:BATTLEGROUND mindset of the people involved, I, the person who brought the case before ArbCom, am not allowed to opine that someone is a racist (i.e., takes a BATTLEGROUND mindset to life) or exhibits racist tendencies (i.e., acts in a way consistent with said battleground mindset)? That is seriously what you're stating? Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If I wasn't clear enough: Opining someone is a racist is a personal attack. Therefore, while you may opine that someone has a battleground mindset, you cannot opine that they are racist. Find alternative wording if necessary. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 16:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. In a case specifically about the battleground mindset of the editors, I am not allowed to give my opinion on the... mindset of the editors. Are we singling out racism, or is there a general principle here that one is not allowed to talk about what might be going on inside someone's head if a person might find such talk offensive? Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:16, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May need your advice again

I've mentioned you at Talk:Autobiography_of_a_Yogi#Regarding_the_use_of_SRF.C2.B4s_commercial_cover_of_the_book_to_illustrate_the_article regarding a prior discussion. I have the horrible feeling that I am going to find myself once again struggling with image policies. Your thoughts would be appreciated. - Sitush (talk) 16:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry: I don't have the patience to read all that. Can you give me a summary? Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It grew rapidly - and often tangentially - after I posted above! I subsequently queried the essential bit here. - Sitush (talk) 06:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPA and editing warnings

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


HI - I am still unsatisfied about your what was imo a personal attack on me WP:NPA by your saying to me to "grow a backbone and get over it" diff on a high profile noticeboard - is your comment to me something you consider acceptable for all users to make ? Do you consider me to be a spineless person? - I also wanted to point out this edit you made as being unsupported by policy/guidelines - "Diff of warning: N/A, Darkness Shines has stated he doesn't want me on his talk page" - diff - you are aware that prior to reporting, official warnings can/should be placed on any users talkpage, whether they have requested you to stay off their talkpage or not ? - Moving forward - your personal and atacking comment in regards to me imo makes you WP:involved and I request you to accept that and in future request other uninvolved admins/report me to a neutral uninvolved noticeboard if you have any issues with my contributions. - Additional related issues/feedback User_talk:AlexandrDmitri#Personal_attacks_by_Magog_the_Ogre and, Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Darkness Shines reported by Magog the Ogre (talk) (Result: No violation)Youreallycan 03:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry you feel that way. If you believe my conduct with Darkness Shines was inappropriate, you are free to take it up with Arbcom or WP:WQA. As for, do I think you're a spineless person? No, I believe you physically have a spine. I was stating that you need to get over it. If you don't like my response, you are free, like I said, to take up the issue at WP:WQA. Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly you were unable to state that I need to get over anything without personally attacking me - do you object to or refuse to accept that your personal comment in regards to me makes you WP:Involved in regards to administrative actions in future in regardst to me? - Please clearly answer my question - HI - I am still unsatisfied about your what was imo a personal attack on me WP:NPA by your saying to me to "grow a backbone and get over it" diff on a high profile noticeboard - is your comment to me something you consider acceptable for all users to make ? Do you consider me to be a spineless person?Youreallycan 06:06, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not accept it. I don't plan on taking any such action, but no, I do not think that at all. And I'm sorry to see you've taken the wrong lesson out of this. Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments such as "I believe you physically have a spine." - make me sick - as for the wrong lesson - look at your contributions on this issue - as for your comment - "I don't plan on taking any such action" - stay away from any further admin actions in regards to me and any other users you are involved in and opinionated against - for ever - goodbye to you - 06:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)Youreallycan

  • I've been asked by YRC to take a look, so here I am. Let me be blunt, Magog, your comment to Bbb23 was over the line. Not sure why YRC thinks it was to him. I know from offwiki discussions with Bbb23 that he took great offense with it, although he is nice enough to not make a big deal out of it. Honestly, as admins, this is something we shouldn't say, and is worthy of an apology. I have said less and had my head ripped off for it, rightfully. Magog, we have both seen other admins warn editors for making similar comments, and when they see an admin saying similar things, I get to hear about it and get preached to about how unfair the system is, so it makes the job of admin even harder for all of us. We all make mistakes, we all can get too rude from time to time, it is part of being human, but how we deal with it afterwards that defines our character. And Magog, there were a lot of lessons to be learned that day. I think we all need to be a bit more understanding here and agree to disagree, and get back to building an encyclopedia, and when an apology serves the greater project best, be the first to offer one.
  • YRC, as I said, it appears this was directed at Bbb23, or at least that is how Bbb and I both took it. In this case, most admins would conclude that Magog isn't involved to a point that would exclude him from taking action in the future if needed, although I would recommend he keep me in the loop since I am your mentor and familiar with the previous issues between you two and think I can be a neutral influence. YRC, please be careful that you don't let this turn into a chip on your shoulder. You have to work with Magog, and I'm hoping your both can put differences behind you when your paths cross in the future.
  • You both tend to dig in a little, and likely need an air gap between you for a while. Dennis Brown - © 12:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm sorry if anyone took offense. That said, I feel like I'm in an episode of the Twilight Zone here where all of a sudden social rules have suddenly changed and I'm none the wiser for it. If someone takes offense at being told they need to stop taking offense, whatever the metaphor used, then that person is too easily offended, and the point I made was a valid one. I've absolutely never seen someone be appropriately warned for telling someone something like "grow a backbone" (and not just to be rude, but in response to a valid issue! In fact, I probably would have said this or even more had it been a conversation IRL, which is considerably more direct). So, while I'm legitimately sorry if I said something that offended someone, I still think that someone is far too easily offended (which was the issue I was commenting at to begin with). I'd rather we don't all have to walk around on tiptoes around each other, ready to be offended at the slightest piece of blunt language, but apparently some others disagree. Magog the Ogre (talk) 13:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is one of those situations where I know both of you are good guys and other issues are just dragging along. I don't think Magog was trying to be rude, but it came out that way and I understand why a few people took offense. It needed addressing, but it doesn't need to be labored any more. And Magog, when the heat gets turned up, we all get oversensitive, myself included. Check my talk page archives, the other day I was upset over an ugly RfA and took it too far (farther than this), and in the end I ended up writing a rather large and public apology. YRC has delivered his share of rudeness as well, so I'm not judging you for being human here, and none of us should be throwing stones in this glass house. I would ask you both let the issue rest and maybe avoid each other for a while. If you both would like, you can ping me if an interaction is needed for a couple of weeks and I would be happy to help in any way I can. I just don't want to see good people get sidetracked over side issues that I admit are important to the individual, but aren't really part of building an encyclopedia. I would ask you let me just end this here for now, and if either if you want to talk to me further via email or on my talk page, the other respect a little distance, and let time give us the benefit of hindsight. Dennis Brown - © 14:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

1.400 uploads by User:Hugh Manatee

Hi! User:Hugh Manatee has uploaded almost 1.400 files with a free license. Mostly old postcards. They are very old and as far as I can tell they are probably ok. There is also a few "own work". Could you have a quick look and check a few files? If 99 % are ok I suggest we just move them all and do the check when during the "NowCommons check". --MGA73 (talk) 16:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and tag them with your bot, and then I will run my tool over it and we can review them much more easily. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tag = copy to Commons? :-) --MGA73 (talk) 16:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh you're an admin, you can delete any that were wrongly transferred Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure :-) Anyway I just thought it would be a good idea to tell you before I started just to make sure you did not just nuke them all with Twinkle :-) --MGA73 (talk) 16:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I never just nuke them all without combing through them. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All should be done now. A few was moved yesterday but was not tagged with a NowCommons. There is a few left and they should be checked manually. Thank you for all your help. --MGA73 (talk) 18:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1.300 uploads by User:Mdnavman

It works!!! I noticed that user:Mdnavman has almost just as many uploads. Most of them looks ok but they are not "as easy" as the other uploads I fear. What do you think? --MGA73 (talk) 19:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I say go for it. Anyway, User:OgreBot 2 is gonna have a fit on Sunday when it goes to clean up today's uploads and finds 1400 images that need to be fixed. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. You could just add a speedy on Commons if there copyvios. No need to have a DR on Commons if it is a clear case. And I hope your bot likes the task :-D --MGA73 (talk) 18:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This image is the flag of a county. Flags of governments are public images. This should not have been deleted. Now several pages have redlinks in place of the image.Greg Bard (talk) 05:17, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let's talk this out a bit and hopefully we can get it undeleted. The reason it was marked for deletion is that the symbol in the middle of the flag wasn't given a source. If it was drawn by someone other than a Florida employee, then it would be copyrighted (see commons:COM:COA for a full discussion of how people who aren't affiliated with the original organization might actually do a different drawing). Can you tell me where you got that image? Magog the Ogre (talk) 11:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Won't keep you bothered for too long

Hello, Magog the Ogre. Please check your e-mail – you've got mail!
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

Also, as courtesy notice: User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#Please.... Thanks, Mar4d (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3RR decline

Please reconsider your 3RR decline. There is alot going on here and I think you are stepping into the middle of something you havn't fully looked into. Look again, please. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reported user is still edit-warring today!

Recent disruption and edit-warring (all from today) by Andreasedge here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Here and here Andreasedge is edit-warring with Szyslak and Future Perfect at Sunrise. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:30, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the comments here before you decide to decline the report. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This does look like disruption by Andreasegde, but I'm going to refer to BWilkins, who seems to be more familiar with the situation. Could you please post on his talk page? Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but BWilkins didn't decline the report, you did, so shouldn't you decide to remove the decline yourself? Or are you asking me to ask BWilkins to remove your decline, I'm confused? Also, look at the report, other users have questioned BWilkins handling of the 3RR report and suggested it was/is indeed a valid one. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the edit warring report. Any disruption afterwards is a separate issue and is not related to the closure of the 3RR report. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:31, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask why you declined the report? They clearly violated 3RR did they not? Please don't pass the buck here. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was 2 days old (stale blocks are discouraged), and because you were edit warring just as much as he was. While I do take all factors into consideration when closing a case on the 3RR board, the problems you've just brought up regarding with Andreas are purely about disruption, not edit warring, and as such belong on ANI not AN3. I considered handling the issue, but I am simply not as knowledgeable about the issue as other admins, and thought that someone who has a fuller view of the picture could handle the case. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1.000 uploads by User:Cbl62

Hi. Cbl62 has almost 1.000 uploads. If you think they also look OK I'll move them to Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He has some fair use uploads, so if you do mark them, make sure you check the licensing. Also, could you please make sure that when you add the nowcommons tag, that you add your bot as a reviewer, which makes it easier to delete the images. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I meant "1.000 freely licensed uploads" so unless the file is both free and non-free at the same time there should not be a problem.

imagecopy.py does not have the reviewer feature so it needs some tweak before it would work... I can have a look.

Someone asked about a better source on one of the uploads above from User:Mdnavman (Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Fiat CR.32.jpg). What was the result. Are we sure it is PD if it is published in Italy before 1989 (Commons:Template_talk:PD-Italy#Alignment_with_.7B.7BPD-US-URAA.7D.7D) or how old does it need to be? Anyway I think asking for such proof will make it very hard to keep many of the files I just transferred. Feel free to Comment on the DR. --MGA73 (talk) 19:39, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paramahansa_Yogananda_Standard_Pose.jpg

Hi Megog - do you remember helping me with the photograph? I first uploaded a color version and you said it would be better to use a free photograph and you found a sepia one and gave it to me to use. I was having a hard time uploading it because I used the same name as the colored one you deleted so you uploaded. Well Fastily just deleted it!! Unfortunately it is on many related pages! Could you help expedite having it reinstated? Thanks!! Red Rose 13 (talk) 14:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not an administrator on Commons so I can't help you with that. You'll have to wait until Fastily responds or you could ask another admin on Commons. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Megog - remember the photograph you helped me find? - I need to answer the questions here in order for it to be reloaded- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paramahansa_Yogananda_Standard_Pose.jpg - can you help me complete this form properly by letting me know what to write in there. This image was placed on many pages. Thank you.Red Rose 13 (talk) 16:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think I figured it out - all is well and thank you again!Red Rose 13 (talk) 16:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Abuses and all

[2] [3] in Hindi-Urdu. Someone from Mangalore, India. Please block and revdel. Thanks, Mar4d (talk) 06:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a set of public IPs with fairly heavy traffic. I'd like to not block unless the abuse becomes much worse. Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, RegentsPark handled it. Mar4d (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrighted file in use

Hi, Magog the Ogre, how are you? The first edition of the book "Autobiography of a Yogi", as appears in this eBay listing -- its cover, its content, its illustrations and photographs -- is in public domain. If the original cover was copyrighted, any attempt to make a similar cover would be plagiarism. However, you can find the original cover used presently by different Publishers. For example, at amazon.com US and at Amazon´s United Kingdon, a fac-simile. As for the File:Autobiography of a Yogi Current Book Cover.jpg currently used in the "Autobiography of a Yogi"´s article, this one is without any doubt protected by copyright by the book´s Publisher, Self-Realization Fellowship. SRF is using it as a brand cover of his modified version of the book: around the world: Portuguese cover, German cover, French cover, Spanish cover, etc. They replaced the original black and white photograph for a hyperrealist color painting of Yogananda. SRF also slightly modified the public domain images they use. This is a practice some Publishers use to obtain a new copyright and to make people think the original images are still protected. I am writing to you to clarify this matter since there have been misleading information spread about the status of this book and images. The article is full of wrong information in order to advertise SRF´s book -- as if it had the priceless sponsorship of Wikipedia, and as if it was the one and only publication of the book in print, in detriment of all the others. Hope I could help. Please contact me if you need any further information. Thanks for your time and attention, bye bye. -- Tat Sat (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Tat Sat, you have been warned previously about forum shopping and attacking other editors & their motivations. Please stop spraying this issue across yet more pages - it is being discussed at WP:DRN as per your request there. - Sitush (talk) 04:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll handle this when I get my monitor back. Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Magog, and thanks for offering to take a look at this. I'm mediating the dispute at DRN, and my current plan is to work out the copyright status of the images involved and then hold an RfC to decide which one to use. If you don't feel like reading through the whole DRN thread, then you can just look at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Use of a book cover and/or frontispiece where I asked a question about the copyright part of the dispute. Best — Mr. Stradivarius on tour (have a chat) 07:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For dealing with that. Based on Kwami's comments on hir user talk page I doubt it'll be any kind of wake-up call, but I'm glad to have found an admin who addressed the user behavior issue instead of protecting the page and skipping away.–Roscelese (talkcontribs) 17:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the IP? God is our witness (pun partially intended). Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick item

Thanks for deleting my image redirect misspelling (Oghr). Re: "Why do people believe in conspiracy theories when the great majority of evidence is against them?", I assume you've read this book? Torchiest talkedits 21:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have not. Just me sitting down one night and putting all my observations in one place. Actually I was going to delete it today because I thought no one read it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was a good read. I also agree with most of the rest of your user page commentary. Cheers. Torchiest talkedits 21:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I'm admin from es: and need helps with this usurpation request. I don´t know why the bot didn´t finish the request. Did I do something wrong? Thanks, --186.52.58.13 (talk) 23:47, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which request are you referring to? Also, is your nation receiving the condemnation of Castro and Chavez a badge of honor to be worn or are they dead on about the terrible leadership? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your AN/I notice

Haha, sorry about that. I removed the notice because I felt the thread starter should notify any parties. :) -- Luke (Talk) 17:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I'm not a hater, and I wasn't upset . It's just that ANI has a way of making my eyeballs pop out of my head in frustration due to the edit conflicts. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Penyulap is disrupting the poll at Sgt Pepper

Now User talk:Penyulap is disrupting the straw poll at Sgt Pepper. What should I do, can you help with this please? ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]