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Agency for Cultural Affairs Database

Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs recently opened an online database that they have been developing since 2010. As this is part of the Government Ministry of Eduction and not user edited this should easily qualify as RS.

http://mediaarts-db.jp

Should be useful for release dates if nothing else. SephyTheThird (talk) 20:52, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the Government Ministry of Eduction would cover anime and manga. It may cover ones based off of historical figures or stories but I dont know. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's actually Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology [1], but that is some crazy mega department that is often shortened in (english language) coverage.SephyTheThird (talk) 21:13, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I Approve. That is an impressive source for airdates. Looking at it, episodes that air after midnight are counted as the day after, like normal time. Will be useful for future arguments. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 21:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay add it to WP:A&M/RS. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

At last, we now have a reliable source with the actual air dates and not those "faux" dates that gives the reader the impression that the series aired a day earlier than it did. —Farix (t | c) 15:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

English air dates on series not broadcast in English

RisaPlayer88 is just the latest editor to add in English air dates to anime series that have not been picked up for any satellite, cable, or other TV network. While many of these series may be available from streaming websites, the use of "English air date"—which implies that the series was broadcasted on a satellite, cable, or other TV network—is grossly misleading. If we go with the dates the series is available via streams, then those dates should reflect the simulcast dates of the subtitled version. —Farix (t | c) 18:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

I left a message or two on her talkpage, it would be great if she could join our project and make positive contributions rather than these. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

@TheFarix: Is this[2] what you were talking about? I reckon that we should go with a coal-and-ice policy on that matter, so I agree with the statement that you said.--Infinite0694 (talk) 19:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Simulcasts in English subtitles do not require English air dates to be filled out in the episode listing, as they are treated like a second network broadcasting in its first run but later in the week. This would apply to Crunchyroll, which also localizes subtitles to many regions. English air dates should be more for traditional broadcasts on channel. It should not include the video on demand services unless that is the primary method of broadcast as with a web series / webisode / ONA / YouTube series.

The recent plan of Funimation simul-dubbing for its members can be grouped with the simulcast one. They are usually produced and released soon after the original. On the other hand, if they had a world premiere on Funimation Channel, Anime Network, or Adult Swim, then they could be considered, again, as long as it's not a case where it wasn't already released straight-to-video. -AngusWOOF (talk) 21:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

That is what I'm talking about. But as I said before when this issue previously came up, I'm all for removing "English air date" if what constitutes an English broadcast becomes a contentious issue. Does anyone know of any other cases outside of anime where secondary air dates are given? —Farix (t | c) 21:55, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't think we can base a decision on what other project may do, because anime seems more likely to receive english broadcasts than say, asian drama (this is a US/UK generalisation as I simply don't know how English speaking regions in say, Asia handle imported products). I also think removing it simply because people are using it for simulcasts to be akin to using a hammer to open a peanut casing. There are plenty of legitimate uses for it, the amount of anime broadcast on US/UK tv has been significant enough that the feature has a legitimate use. What if a series is broadcast after it's streaming? Either way I'm against removing it completely, but completely agree it shouldn't be used for streaming, which is subject to debate about it's actual release date anyway. SephyTheThird (talk) 10:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Himari Noihara

Just a heads up, I have made and just need to include manga info for Himari from Omamori Himari. If anyone here follows the show and wants to help out, feel free. =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Pocket Monsters manga deletion proposal.

There is a discussion regarding the deletion of a hand-full of Pocket Monsters manga articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga#Pocket Monsters manga deletion proposal. More input would be helpful. Thanks. —KirtZ^Message 10:39, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Animerica Vol. 8, No. 2 - Does anyone have this?

Does anyone have a copy of Animerica Vol. 8, No. 2?

• See this 2004 listing of series starting in "M" referred to in Animerica (Archive).

(I am aware that Animerica was published by the same company that published Magical Pokemon Journey in English, so it may not count as an "independent" source, but I'd like to see what the magazine says anyway).

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

No sorry, I am just subscribed to Otaku USA, but good luck in your search =). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:21, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll look around and see what I find! WhisperToMe (talk) 05:36, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Animage Grand Prix references:

• Animage

Article contains a big list of citations that are formatted as raw urls. First it links to the google translation of it. Second, the pages don't seem to load. The references need to be formatted as proper references, and if needed to use the waybackmachine.

The page also mostly consists of a list of the Grand Prix award winners. The list is big enough to perhaps warrant its own page. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I believe the pages probably don't load due to changes to Google Translate as once you strip the url to the source, it works fine. I've made a test change of changing the 1979 entries to a single condensed direct ref, without translation links or archives. I don't believe the archive's are necessary but the need for a translation is up for debate. I haven't changed any more because I want to see if there is any feedback before doing a lot of changes that may need modifying. I don't see any need to split the list as it will simply make the magazine article too short and without sources. Perhaps in the future, but that would mean improvements to the article. SephyTheThird (talk) 07:05, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

End of Mania.com?

There has been an announcement that Mania.com will "officially close our doors on March 31st". I am a little surprised this wasn't posted here earlier. – Allen4names (contributions) 08:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't think people actually use the main page as anime content hasn't been updated in years - I know I don't as it's always been difficult to find the content and I use google results whenever I use it. Going forward we should start switching to archives, but with any luck they will keep the site online for some time. SephyTheThird (talk) 08:33, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I just hope they keep the site intact. Lots of articles use Mania to the reception sections.Tintor2 (talk) 16:52, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Is there a way to generate a list of every one of our anime/manga articles that use Mania as a source? Mania as said above has been used as reviews and I feel these should be archived. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

not sure but it's probably safe to say all of our B/FA class articles will all be using it if we need a place to start.SephyTheThird (talk) 17:30, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

You use to be able to mass archive using WikiCite. Ah, here it is. —Farix (t | c)

Fairy Tail English air dates

With regards to a previous discussion about the inclusion of English air dates, we have a problem over at the Fairy Tail lists. It seems as though some editors have been using the DVD release dates in place of actual TV broadcasts. Can someone take a look and include the actual dates when the episodes were broadcast on Funimation Channel or some other TV network? I don't have access to the the Funimation channel so I can't perform any kind of verification. Thanks.—KirtZ^Message 05:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Strip the dates that are obviously DVD/Blu-ray releases and leave notes on the talk page. —Farix (t | c) 11:34, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

One Piece GAR

Link. I would appreciate a consensus before going through a GAR closing run. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:45, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I won't read the article too closely as I'm deliberately holding back on the series and don't want spoilers. However while it clearly needs some work with all those tags I strongly object to the conclusion of the GAR process until a reasonable amount of time is given to allow the article to be fixed. The complete lack of any discussion being started on the talk page of the actual article is rather concerning. Give people a chance to do it and then fail it if nothing changes or it still falls short.personally I find it disappointing someone started the GAR without at least mentioning their thoughts first.SephyTheThird (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I probably should've added "in the coming future". GARs typically last for four weeks, and the last time they I swept them was in December. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:25, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Facebook fanpage link on Anime

Doorknob747 has recently added a link to a G Gundam Facebook fanpage to Anime. The first time he added the link, he prompted readers to "go like the page and followit". Naturally, this is linkspam and the link has nothing to do with the general topic of anime, so I removed it. However, Doorknob747 insisted that the link is appropriate and qualifies under WP:ELMAYBE #4.[3] Despite an explanation that unofficial fanpages do not fall under that criteria,[4] he insists on keeping the link in the article.[5][6] Also note that this editor also edits under the IP 72.68.241.249 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and has attempted to add the link to other articles.[7][8] I would like a third opinion on this matter. —Farix (t | c) 01:25, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD I have undone the edits, a discussion must be held before the undoing process happens. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

In my opinion if the editor is using it as promotion then it is promotion and needs to be removed as spam. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:35, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Facebook borders too much on User Generated content and is not something I can endorse. Its also highly suspect that the user in question would request that people go like the page, perhaps suggesting that they themselves made the link. Additionally, point #10 of WP:ELNO clearly frowns upon Facebook as a external link. —KirtZ^Message 01:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Is this project somehow covers cartton show animations made in the United States?

Just askingDoorknob747 (talk) 23:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)