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... but, given the ongoing shitstorm on ANI and the relevant article talk page it's probably not the time to be talking about sockpuppetry. (>.<) |
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Hey, numerous users have expressed concerns about rampant sockpuppetry on historical/territorial disputes between Japan and Korea, mostly on the part of pro-Korean SPAs but occasionally by Japanese ones as well. I can't quite figure out who is whose sockpuppet, but it seems highly likely that {{user|Jagello}} and {{user|KoreanSentry}} are the same person or communicating off-wiki with each other and with someone who edited the [[Korean influence on Japanese culture]] article before the AFD. Could we get a CU up here? I've been trying to find a smoking gun so I can start an SPI for months now, but... [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 05:01, 16 May 2015 (UTC) |
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====Potential anti-Korean POV-pushing SPAs?==== |
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*{{User|Hiraki}}[[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Hiraki&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Arstriker}}[[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Arstriker&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Juzumaru}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Juzumaru&l=1000]Admitted on Japanese Wikipedia to socking after getting blocked on English Wikipedia, but it might have just been trolling since CU found nothing and his favourite articles were all clean. |
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====Apparent pro-Korean (anti-Japanese) POV-pushing SPAs==== |
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*{{User|Koryosaram}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Koryosaram&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Nippononna}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Nippononna&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Keepfix}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Keepfix&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Consoleman}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Consoleman&l=1000] |
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*{{User|Globalscene}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Globalscene&l=1000]: Violently anti-Japanese POV-pushing fringe theorist. Originator of the [[WP:FRINGE]], [[WP:SYNTH]] [[WP:POVFORK]] article [[Korean influence on Japanese culture]] |
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*{{User|JARA7979}} |
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*{{User|Samuel Hwang}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Samuel Hwang&l=1000]: Early edits to [[Hwang (Korean surname)]] imply "Samuel Hwang" is his real name, which by extension implies he has not violated [[WP:SOCK]], but his other edits imply a strong anti-Japanese bias ("'''The Japanese''' were guilty of engaging in a massive conspiracy against our country"...). |
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*{{User|Historiographer}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Historiographer&l=1000]: Like an "anti-[[Special:Contributions/Juzumaru|Juzumaru]]" apparently possessed of a powerful nationalist agenda and an ability to avoid being silenced for an extended period. I don't know yet whether or not he has engaged in sockpuppetry, but it certainly seems possible. |
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*{{User|捏造撃破戦線}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=捏造撃破戦線&l=1000]: Obvious sockpuppet of someone (probably {{User|Historiographer}}). Appearing suddenly and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C5%8Cei_Invasion&diff=prev&oldid=602129840 joining] Historiographer's edit war with Juzumaru. I can't tell if the number itself is anti-Japanese or pro-Korean or anything, but the username [http://www.tangorin.com/general/捏造 implies] ... [http://www.tangorin.com/general/撃破 something] ... [http://www.tangorin.com/general/戦線 probably] ... |
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*{{User|Jagello}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Jagello&l=1000]: Super-suspicious account that appeared suddenly, after a 19 month absence, immediately after the closing of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korean influence on Japanese culture]] despite never having edited the page before or posting on the AFD itself. Restored a version of the article that had not been up since roughly 8 months ''before'' the AFD. This implies the user has in fact edited the page in the past but decided to log in under a different account as an "impartial observer". Given the age, this is probably the sock''master'' rather than the sock''puppet'', but I wonder who the puppet is... |
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*{{User|KoreanSentry}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=KoreanSentry&l=1000]: Okay, to be fair this is probably not the same person as Jagello given what looks like a relative lack of shared interests, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&diff=prev&oldid=645230902 this edit] is even more suspicious than any of Jagello's. Another point of note is that their username implies some connection with a certain external site that Korean nationalists [https://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=site:koreansentry.com/forum+%22Wikipedia%22&btnG=Google+Search&oq=good+morning&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=tS3SVILzMobLmwWUvIKYAg seem to be] using to discuss their edits to articles on Korean relations with Japan and China on English Wikipedia. |
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*{{User|TH1980}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=TH1980&l=1000]: Possibly not so much "pro-Korean" as anti-Japanese. Edited in infrequent spurts over a three-year period before suddenly showing up and reverting my previous edits to the [[Korean influence on Japanese culture]] article (specifically regarding 口訣⇔片仮名（漢文訓読？） connections and the 憶良渡来人論) in a manner similar to Jagello and KoreanSentry above, despite having never shown any interest in it before. Possibly someone's sock account. Other recent, dubious edits include [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Magnificent_Seven&type=revision&diff=660526085&oldid=658920899 adding] a deeply suspect anecdote about Akira Kurosawa (a Japanese filmmaker of 武家 heritage) [[Game of Thrones|bent the knee]] and handed over a treasured family heirloom (or a or a cheap mass-produced 新軍刀 inaccurately dubbed a "samurai sword") to "his American superior" John Sturges, and citing a combination of his/her own dubious sense of what is "notable" and a source written several years after both men were dead by a minor film critic probably too young to have heard the story directly from Sturges and too monolingual to have heard it from Kurosawa. |
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*{{User|Dragonpyramid}}[http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Dragonpyramid&l=1000]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katakana&diff=354511806&oldid=353662393] -- 'nuff said. |
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*{{User|Silverarrowx}} |
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*{{User|Blitzwar}}: No clear POV, but a Bunroku-Keicho SPA who relied exclusively on questionable popular books by Turnbull. |
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====Users who appear to have the right idea==== |
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*{{User|MerveillesDX}}[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&diff=515097830&oldid=515097086] |
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Revision as of 05:06, 16 May 2015
... but, given the ongoing shitstorm on ANI and the relevant article talk page it's probably not the time to be talking about sockpuppetry. (>.<)