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March 21

Did any US states have a voting age of 20 or below in 1916?

Did any US states have a voting age of 20 or below in 1916? I'm asking because Walter Breuning once said that his earliest vote was for Woodrow Wilson in 1916, but Breuning was only 20 years old at the time of the 1916 United States presidential election. Futurist110 (talk) 02:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what his state of residence was in 1916? <-Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots-> 08:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, No. His Wikipedia article does state that he moved to DeSmet, South Dakota in 1901 and to Montana in 1918, though. So, based on this information and on the fact that he worked for the Great Northern Railway since 1913, Breuning was likely in one of the Dakotas in 1916. Futurist110 (talk) 21:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to our Voting age article, Georgia lowered the age to 18 in August 1943 and Kentucky in 1955, and according to the September 9, 1944 issue of Congressional Quarterly, "In the 1944 national election, for the first time in the history of the Republic, men and women less than 21 years of age will be permitted to vote in one of the states of the American Union." -- AnonMoos (talk) 09:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of the states he lived was Montana, right? This item[1] suggests that the voting age prior to 1972 was 19. If it was also 19 in 1916, and if he was living there, he would have qualified. That's a few "ifs", though. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Struggling to find the Montana voting age in 1916, but did find the 1895 oath required for voter registration in Montana:-

"I do solemnly swear or affirm that I am a citizen of the United States; that I am of the age of twenty-one years, and will have been a resident of Montana one year, and in the county thirty days preceding the day of the next ensuing election and that I am not registered elsewhere in Montana for this electoral year, so help me God (or under the pains and penalties for perjury)"

The Right of Suffrage in Montana (p. 424 or 10/58 of the pdf file). Alansplodge (talk) 13:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breuning only moved to Montana in 1918, though. Based on my post above here, my hunch is that he was living in one of the Dakotas in 1916, though I can't be absolutely certain of this fact. Futurist110 (talk) 21:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In which case we have one of two possible scenarios: either Breuning voted for Wilson (apparently before he was legally old enough to do so), or his memory is flawed (and he supported Wilson without actually casting a vote). We don’t have evidence to definitively prove either scenario. Blueboar (talk) 22:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did both of the Dakotas likewise have a voting age of 21 back in 1916? Futurist110 (talk) 05:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently. I have found several sources saying that the first state to lower the age below 21 was Georgia... who did it in the 1940s. Blueboar (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, Walter Breuning most likely misremembered this and confused supporting Woodrow Wilson with actually voting for him--which shouldn't be that surprising, considering that he was recalling a memory that was already over 90 years into the past at that point in time. Walter Breuning doesn't actually strike me as the kind of person who would actually break the law. Futurist110 (talk) 01:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Third if unlikely possibility: he wrote in Wilson in 1920. --24.76.103.169 (talk) 18:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is it too late to call out such blatant election fraud, and overturn Wilson’s election? 😉 Blueboar (talk) 19:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wilson won a third term in 1920??? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I need help finding a copy of an article in Human Events from 1978

I have not been able to find the following: Todd Culbertson, "The Human Cost of World Communism," Human Events, August 19, 1978, pp. 10-11 (cited here). The website for Human Events has very little archived, as far as I can tell. The closest I have come is this hardbound edition of back issues from 1978 at Amazon, which is unavailable. Does anyone know a way to locate a digital version or how to maybe obtain a copy from the Library of Congress or elsewhere through an interlibrary loan? Any help is appreciated. AmateurEditor (talk) 06:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Standard place to ask is WP:REX... -- AnonMoos (talk) 06:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Will do. AmateurEditor (talk) 07:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 23

The Russian Revolution of 1905 and republicanism

Does anyone here know just how many of the revolutionaries in the Russian Revolution of 1905 actually wanted to transform the Russian Empire into a republic as opposed to a constitutional monarchy? Futurist110 (talk) 03:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you actually read the article you link? The revolution of 1905 was not a neatly planned thing. It was a series of social movements that almost toppled the tsarist regime, taking place in a country that had just emerged from serfdom and suffered a humiliating defeat against Japan in the Russo-Japanese War. What is considered the revolution's first event, Bloody Sunday, was a worker's march, organized by revolutionary labor leaders - not really ardent monarchists. There was violent labor strife all over - again, not a sign of constitutional monarchists looking for peaceful evolution. The mutiny on the Potemkin was about dreadful living conditions for enlisted sailors. The fact that the fallout of the whole affair was a move towards a slightly more representative form of monarchy should not be taken as a sign that it was the original objective of the leaders of the various social movements that constituted the revolution. Xuxl (talk) 13:56, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The abolition of the Ottoman Empire and the Caliphate and the 1947 partition of India: Is there any connection between these things?

Is there any connection between the abolition of the Ottoman Empire, including the abolition of the Caliphate, and the subsequent 1947 partition of India? I know that British India previously had the Khilafat Movement, but exactly what relation and connection did this movement actually have to the subsequent 1947 partition of India? Futurist110 (talk) 03:46, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It had a lot to do with Ghandi and the Congress movement being outmaneuvered by Jinnah and the Muslim League in the immediately preceding years. The Quit India Movement no doubt had lofty motives, but it also had a significant element of stupidity, since the British were not going to quit India in the middle of a World War, and they were in fact likely to be more ruthless as colonial masters when they were fighting for their own national survival. By not participating in "Quit India", the Muslim League emerged after WW2 with greatly enhanced influence... AnonMoos (talk) 07:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A difference between the two is that the Young Turks and their successors wanted a secular state, whereas the Muslim League wanted an Islamic one. Alansplodge (talk) 09:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jinnah himself was famously an alcohol-drinker, and more concerned about Hindu domination of Muslims than about Islamic government. Islamic government only emerged in stages in Pakistan, from the 1950s through the 1980s (see Islamization in Pakistan). It did not emerge fully-formed in 1948. AnonMoos (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Muhammad Ali Jinnah could best be described as a pork-and-wine Muslim! ;) Futurist110 (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the Khilafat movement had been successful and the caliph had been restored to his former role, the forces leading to the partitioning of India decades later would probably have been equally strong. --Lambiam 15:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, it would have had no effect on the ultimate partition of India, other than any effects that pertain to the butterfly effect? Futurist110 (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Access to the Diary of Hannah Szenes

Hi! I've been looking online for Hannah Szenes's diary. If I can find it in any format, I will download it and convert it to a MOBI file to read on my Kindle.

I found book on archive.org that includes her writings and hundreds of pages of her diary, but it isn't easy to access (I tried downloading an Adobe eReader and it failed to open the protected files)

One hint is that I was able to find out that her entire collection has been digitized

However, I'm also unable to figure out how to access that digital collection.

Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zac Romick (talk • contribs) 08:35, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The book above seems to still under copyright so it's unlikely you'll be able to find it online for free in a legitimate way except from a library.

archive.org seems to have made it available under their controversial digitised ebook programme. If you borrow it for 14 days (archive.org is a bit confusing, but you will probably need to borrow it for 1 hour then you will get an option to borrow it for 14 days), you will get access to a PDF and ePub protected by ADEPT DRM. You will be able to view them on a computer with Adobe Digital Editions properly installed, or any smart phone or tablet with some reader that supports ADEPT DRM (there should be options for Android, Windows, iOS and Chromebooks [2]), as well an an ebook reader that supports ADEPT DRM like a Kobo or really nearly any ebook reader besides Amazon's ones. Or to put it a different way, if you don't mind using Overdrive or other such software and you want to read it on a device that isn't either free software only (i.e. opposed to DRM) like a computer running Debian, or a Kindle eink ereader; you'll probably be able to read the ePub or PDF from archive.org. (I'm sure there are also some obscure OSes or devices without support, especially cheap Chinese devices.)

You're SOL with a Kindle, blame Amazon and DRM. While there are ways to remove ADEPT DRM, doing so for books you don't own even if it's for interoperability reasons seems questionable and IMO is not something you should expect help with on the RD. Especially since despite the annoyances of DRM, the main reason why Kindle's don't support ADEPT DRM is clearly not because they can't or it costs too much or they have some philosophical opposition to DRM. They just want control.

You could look and see if it's available at your local library, however outside the US you'll probably have the same problem. Library loans will use ePubs or PDFs with ADEPT DRM, which Kindle's can support. I believe Overdrive does support Kindles in the US, so if you have access to ebooks borrowing from a US option you might have options.

If you can't get it from a library, you'll need to buy it. It's available in ebook form on various sites [3] including Amazon [4] although ebook licencing being how it is, I can't guarantee it's available for you.

As for the other material, where did you read that her entire collection has been digitised? The source you linked to doesn't say that. It says "The entire archives will be digitized and exhibited" (emphasis added) which is a very important distinction. Since the source is from November 2020, there's a good chance "will be" remains correct unless you have a source which says the process has been completed. In any case, your best bet to obtain access would be to ask the National Library of Israel.

Nil Einne (talk) 11:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I had a quick look at the archive.org ePub, and as you may expect for a more complicated work with some parts not in English etc, the OCR can be a bit hit and miss. The PDF version wouldn't have these problems but of a fixed layout format and especially a scan for something like this is also unnecessary and IMO partly defeats a key advantage of using an ebook reader in the first place. Frankly since there is a proper ebook available and this isn't some obscure hard to access work, you're IMO much better of getting that than trying to get something from archive.org. Nil Einne (talk) 12:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Carriage stripper

This article references his father was a "carriage stripper." Is there a Wikipedia article on this job/task? Engineerchange (talk) 14:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for anything that includes the word stripper leads to some interesting places on the web, but it does appear that "stripper" was a kind of harvester (see here or here), so possibly the article simply meant that he was a farmer that operated such a device? Jokey options aside, my initial guess would have been someone whose job was to unload or possibly disassemble carriages. Matt Deres (talk) 17:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So a coachman? Or is there a more specific title here? Engineerchange (talk) 17:43, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did a poor job reading, so likely closer to a farm hand (but, given the times and place, more likely a slave) who was able to operate the "stripper harvester" machinery. Got it; thanks! Engineerchange (talk) 18:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's only a guess on my part, based on what came up. It could well be unrelated. Matt Deres (talk) 18:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the terminology in Virginia/USA appears to be more commonly reaper and not stripper, which apparently has more Australian origins? Don't get much googling "carriage reaper" along those lines, though. Engineerchange (talk) 19:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is a rail trade. Found in the The New South Wales Industrial Gazette: Volume 10 (1917):

"Assistants to carriage trimmers, 9s. Od. per day. (Assistants to carriage trimmers shall mean men employed in removing and stripping the interior trimmings of carriages, and taking the materials to and from the railway carriages)".

I can definitely see this. I see some examples of carriage trimming as a profession when searching on Wikipedia; I imagine "carriage stripper" is just an infrequent alternative phrasing of "carriage trimmer", which in common tongue we would just call an upholsterer. Thanks, all! Engineerchange (talk) 19:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See [5]. 146.199.206.3 (talk) 21:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Settler colonialism that was at least largely done for the purposes of reducing separatism and weakening separatist movements?

Which cases of settler colonialism were at least largely done for the purposes of reducing separatism and weakening separatist movements? So far, I could think of:

Nursultan Nazarbayev's decision to move Kazakhstan's capital to Nur-Sultan (previously Astana) in 1997 in order to increase the Kazakh presence in northern Kazakhstan and thus weaken secessionist and separatist sentiments among Kazakhstani Russians in northern Kazakhstan.
The Pashtun colonization of northern Afghanistan, which was done in large part to increase the Pashtun presence in northern Afghanistan (especially Afghan Turkestan) and thus to make it less vulnerable to Russian encroachment and Russian annexation.
Israel's colonization of East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Golan Heights (and formerly the Gaza Strip as well). One purpose of Israel's settlement movement is to Judaize these territories and thus to increase the odds of Israel permanently keeping some or all of these territories.
The Chuang Guandong: The Chinese colonization of (Inner) Manchuria in order to prevent Russia from annexing it just like Russia previously did with Outer Manchuria in 1858-1860.

Anyway, though, which additional examples of this have there been throughout history? Futurist110 (talk) 21:57, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Israeli example doesn't work as the movement there is not one of separation but resistance. Of 19 (talk) 01:15, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was meant to weaken Palestinian separatism (among other things), no? Futurist110 (talk) 02:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't work. I see you yourself just created the term "Palestinian separatism" and made it a redirect to State of Palestine. There is no such thing as Palestinian separatism, which would imply that the Palestinians are seeking independence from Israel. As you well know, that is not the case at all. Israel is illegally occupying those territories you mention. --Viennese Waltz 10:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One could say that Israel has already de facto annexed the West Bank even if it did not actually do so de jure, though. (Of course, Israel did de jure annex East Jerusalem to my knowledge.) Futurist110 (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be accurate though, one would say that the world's longest ongoing belligerent occupation is occurring in conjunction with war crimes including the forced displacement of the local population and the colonizing of the territory by the occupier's civilians.

Also, Israel did not de jure annex East Jerusalem, they tried to and the rest of the world said no, of course not, you can't just make a law saying that other people's territory belongs to you.Of 19 (talk) 20:51, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plantation of Ulster although Ireland wasn't technically a colony, it had some elements of one. Alansplodge (talk) 09:55, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also the Landsker Line delineates the medieval English settlement in West Wales. Alansplodge (talk) 09:59, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Kazakhstan's capital to Astana was done just to have the capital in a more central location (Almaty is off in a corner of the country), along the lines of what numerous other countries have done in the past (U.S., Canada, Brazil, Nigeria, Tanzania, Côte d'Ivoire...) It was also a way to mark a new beginning for the country, as an independent nation. I doubt that it had the slightest impact on whatever Russian separatist feelings there may have been - it's not as if there has been mass migration accompanying the change of capitals. Xuxl (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that a lot of Kazakhs (almost a million of them, in fact) actually did move to Nur-Sultan/Astana after it was made the Kazakh capital–no? Futurist110 (talk) 18:38, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plantation_of_Ulster Iapetus (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

China's pro-Han policies in Xinjiang and Tibet might qualify. DOR (HK) (talk) 21:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Victoria's dressmaker

Is it known when (which years) queen Victoria's dressmaker Mary Bettans was born and died? The article lacks that information. The problem is the same for her colleague Elizabeth Johnston (dressmaker).--Aciram (talk) 23:07, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find anything in a quick search. She made a mourning dress for the infant princess Victoria on the death of her father in 1820, so she must have been born somewhere in the late 18th century. I've added a mention of the mourning dress to the article. Chuntuk (talk) 15:42, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"The name of Mary Bettans has already been mentioned and it is fortunate that two sets of dress samples can now be fairly positively associated with her workrooms in Jermyn Street. She is otherwise a rather shadowy character She must already have been well established when she began making Victoria ' s dresses in 1824 , and may well have worked for the Duchess of Kent since 1818. She was clearly no longer young and was probably conservative."

In Royal Fashion: The Clothes of Princess Charlotte of Wales & Queen Victoria, 1796-1901 p. 121 (snippet view only) from the Museum of London. Alansplodge (talk) 23:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, here is am interesting account of her treatment of apprentices in 1841. Although required to work from 7:30 am until 10 or 11 pm and sometimes all night, they got a month's paid holiday at the end of the season. Alansplodge (talk) 23:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 24

Slane & Hughes , 19th century, any connections?

Greetings,

Previously on this ref desk I had discussed about s:Index:A dictionary of Islam.djvu (1885)'s author Thomas Hughes (priest)'s and his likely sources on Muslim societies, Islam and Saud Ottoman relationship sitting at Peshawar. One possibility was discussed is his membership Royal Asiatic Society might have been a source.

I was reading his preface to A dictionary of Islam again and he seems to give some credit to translations of Ibn Khallikan by William McGuckin de Slane (1801-1878) Who was also expert Arabic interpreter for French forces.

Hughes had access to some of Slane's work is mentioned in preface itself

1) Slane's mother's name seems to be 'Euphemia Hughes', so any chance of close or distant relationship and both knowing each other?

2) Where all Slane was posted and any chance of both having correspondence or was Slane writing for RAS or any chance of any indirect contact?

Bookku (talk) 04:19, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bookku. Regarding your question 1), I can't give any definitive genealogical information, but I can say that Hughes is a fairly common surname in, or originating from, both Wales and Ireland (and is therefore also common in England and Scotland). Thomas Hughes came from the English county of Shropshire, adjacent to Wales and with a large Welsh admixture, while de Slane (so presumably his mother also) came from Northern Ireland, so while a family relationship is possible, the coincidence of name alone doesn't really support any likelihood of it. Others may be able to provide more specific evidence one way or the other.

With reference to 2), in this internet age we often forget the extent to which 19th-century scholars were able to communicate easily both nationally and internationally using the very efficient postal services of that era. Many scientists and others may have never met one another face-to-face but nevertheless have been regular collaborators either through learned societies' journals and other facilities, or by direct personal written correspondence – Charles Darwin is often held up as the exemplar of this, but it was common in 19th-century scholarship. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 15:51, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ 2.219.35.136 Thanks for valuable inputs. Hughes is one of early systematic commentary on prevalent practices among Muslim societies and to accept his notes as reliable sources We need to have a little more clarity on his various content sources. Thanks again and warm regards Bookku (talk) 06:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given that Hughes deliberately immersed himself in Muslim Afghani culture, mastered the local language, and conversed extensively with Imams and others in order to understand their culture and religious beliefs, I would assume his notes mostly recorded their verbal accounts, rather than written material from other European academics. As this is not my area of expertise, I don't know how this stacks up against Wikipedia's 'reliable source' criteria: others may have a better idea – are there any relevent active WikiProjects in this area that could advise? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 11:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GEDmatch: When do matches get updated?

Hiya,

I uploaded the results of a DNA test kit to GEDmatch and it says it was last compared to other kits on March 7th, 2021. I wonder at which intervals the comparisons get updated. Does anybody know?

--Keimzelle (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Taliban, photography, and the Internet

I know that when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan until 2001, they banned both photography and the Internet as being un-Islamic. However, nowadays a lot of Taliban fighters and even Taliban leaders actually do, in fact, get photographed and the Taliban also has an online presence nowadays. Was Taliban doctrine ever officially changed in regards to these things or did the Taliban sort of improvise as it went along in regards to this, believing that the circumstances of jihad against infidels warranted a reconsideration of their previous approach/policy in regards to these things? Futurist110 (talk) 19:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Civil War records

Are there any available records such as rosters and casualty lists for the 17th Virginia Infantry specifically Company A and Company H. of the 4th Virginia Cavalry? Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 20:34, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

American Civil War POW Records

Hello, I was wondering if there may be any records of confederate troops from the 17th Virginia infantry regiment captured at Antietam on September 17 1862 as well as exchange reports? Need these for research. Thank you. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 21:22, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gandalf the Groovy, I remember use KAVEBEAR was looking up individual Civil War soldiers records for a while, so they might be able to point you to the sources. I'm sorry I couldn't find in the ref desk archives - the search terms must be too broad. Perhaps you can try talking to KAVEBEAR if we don't come up with a direct sources for you in the meantime. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Civil War Records: Basic Research Sources. Alansplodge (talk) 18:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"The regiment was commanded by Colonel Corse and numbered only 56 men. Of these, 7 officers and 24 men were killed and wounded and 10 taken prisoner. Only seven men remained in the ranks at the end of the day: Colonel Corse was wounded for a third time, this time severely, and captured." [6] So it is ten people you are looking for. You can also see here. KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 25

Student parietal

I came upon that term while re-reading The Body and didn't know what it meant. Our DAB page doesn't cover it, but Wiktionary does (adj third sense and noun fourth sense): topics concerning the regulation of college living, especially with regards to the visiting privileges of the opposite sex to dorms. I was thinking I should add something to our page, but I'm not sure what the best target would be. Mixed-sex education, to which co-education redirects, is close, but not really the right thing. Likewise cohabitation. I guess I could create a more targeted link to Wikt in the "Other" section, but it seems likely that there's a proper article here and I'm just not thinking of the right term to look for. Any suggestions? The closest match I've found is actually here, but it's a little too specific. Matt Deres (talk) 12:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Parietals are mentioned (for some reason written with an upper-case P) in the section Dormitory § United States. I think that in this sense, which is US English AFAIK, the term is usually a plural-only noun. --Lambiam 23:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Symptoms of schizophrenia

I'm writing a book about a man who becomes schizophrenic and does murderous deeds. What are the symptoms of it? xdude (talk) 13:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Has it occurred to you to look at schizophrenia? Has it occurred to you that people with schizophrenia are far more likely to be victims of crime than the reverse? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 14:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(E/C) We have an article on schizophrenia, complete with a section on signs and symptoms, as well as an entire article on basic symptoms of schizophrenia. Could you elaborate on what you're looking for if those aren't sufficient? Matt Deres (talk) 14:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How to access microfilm

Hello, I am wondering about how to open microfilm M382 ROLL 28 for PVT. Alexander Hunter. I would very much like to view it. https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=566312AB-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandalf the Groovy (talk • contribs) 17:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try the Contact Us button and see if they can answer your question? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1879 Virginia General Assembly Members

Is there a record of members of the 1879 Virginia General Assembly Members. I am specifically looking for the name Alexander Hunter. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandalf the Groovy (talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this guy:[7] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

gulf coastal cities considered geography of coastal elites in US

Are the cities located near the Gulf of Mexico, like Houston, New Orleans, Biloxi, Mobile, Alabama; and Tampa considered as geography of places where you would find coastal elites? or is it that cities on the East Coast and West Coast are considered as the place of coastal elites? Donmust90 (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Donmust90Donmust90 (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, see Educational attainment in the United States#Geography. Not all areas of "coastal elites" aka concentrations of the educated class, are on the Northeast or West coast, they are also in Colorado and some cities like Austin, Texas. Of 19 (talk) 22:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The term "elite" is relative. New Orleans definitely has its own elite and is a coastal city, so under one possible definition of the term "coastal elite" they would classify. Cambridge Dictionary defines the term as "the group of educated, professional people living mainly in cities on the western or northeastern coasts of the US who have liberal political views and are often considered to have advantages that most ordinary Americans do not have".^[8] With this definition, the New Orleans elite is not a coastal elite. The characters in the film Coastal Elites fit the Cambridge definition. The term has also been applied outside of the current US context,^[9][10][11] so the Cambridge definition does not work for all uses. --Lambiam 12:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DonMust90 -- maybe you should learn the phrase "flyover country", in addition to "coastal elite". AnonMoos (talk) 21:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 26

Photo Rights

How do you know when you can use a picture? For example would a picture from the 1800's have any copyright and if so how can you tell? I want to know bout photo rights mainly for these two pictures of Alexander Hunter. http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/alexander-hunter.htm and https://archive.org/details/confederateveter22conf/page/468/mode/2up. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 14:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since the source of these photographs is the US, I interpret the question as whether they are in the public domain in the United States. Works published before March 26, 1926, as these apparently are, are generally considered public domain. --Lambiam 16:12, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your first link is the same pic used at Findagrave, as I mentioned earlier.[12] If there's any doubt, you could ask the poster at Findagrave and/or ask the poster at your first link. <-Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots-> 16:51, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We have a specific board where knowledgeable people are likely to hang out: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions -- AnonMoos (talk) 22:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 27

medium-term nobility

Life peerages have a long history in Britain, where they have have been all the rage since 1963; they are not unknown elsewhere. The kingdom of Portugal, I believe, often created noble titles for two lifetimes. (I don't know if this was done primarily when the grantee was elderly, or what.)

Have titles hereditary for a fixed number of generations been created in other kingdoms? —Tamfang (talk) 00:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to remember Thailand had some that expired after 4 generations. If you were at generation < 4, all your kids would inherit the title, and the 4 gen limit stopped the number of titleholders from increasing exponentially. This was in contrast with the British primogeniture system where only one of your offspring would inherit the title, but it never expired. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D (talk) 05:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

QCs and notability

Is a person considered notable for the purposes of a Wikipedia article if they have been made Queen's Counsel or its foreign equivalent? I see a fair few QC articles but I can't quite tell. Thanks! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 07:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It points at notability and may tip the balance in otherwise doubtful cases, but this should not preempt the general WP:NPERSON notability requirements for people, in particular that of having received significant coverage etc. Depending on what they are known for, there may be more specific requirements, such as WP:NPOL for politicians. --Lambiam 16:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It might differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In Canada I would say absolutely not, as some (but not all) provinces give them out like candy; Alberta appointed 130 lawyers as QC last year alone, while Manitoba hasn't made a single appointment in twenty years. --24.76.103.169 (talk) 02:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Persian couplet

Greetings,

I am working on articles Tomb of Anarkali → Anarkali → Draft:Love in Pakistan

Following romance tragedy couplet in Persian language has been inscribed @ Tomb of Anarkali by 17th century Indian Emperor Jahangir.

Ta qayamat shukr goyam kard gar khwish ra

Ah! gar man baz beenam rui yar khwish ra

Though ref and English translations are available for above, I am looking for help in following 3 things if possible.

1 & 2) Couplet in original Persian script with ref source if available

3) Word by word translation (meaning) from Persian to English.

Thanks and regards

Bookku (talk) 07:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I find this on the web:

تا قیامت شکر گویم کردگار خویش را

آہ گر من باز بینم روئ یار خویش را

It is more likely that the actual inscription is in a calligraphic style for the Persian alphabet, such as nastaʼlīq. I can't give a word-by-word translation, but I can see that the two lines in the English translation correspond to the lines in Persian in the other order. Google translate produces this low-quality translation:

Until the Day of Judgment, I will thank my deeds

If I see my friend again

The word یار (yâr) can mean both "friend" and "lover". --Lambiam 15:46, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A reference for the transliterated poem, with a translation, can be found on this book page, which has more info on the fervour of Jahangir's love – "the madly-in-love Salim, [son of] Akbar". The transliteration is

Tā qiyāmat shukr gūyam kirdagār-i khvish rā!

Ah gar man bāz bīnam rū-yi yār-i khvish rā.

and the translation is

I would give thanks to my God until the day of resurrection,

Ah! Should I ever behold the face of my beloved again.

The footnote [62] states that (according to Andrew Topsfield, in his book Paintings from Mughal India, p. 171 n. 18) Robert Skelton has identified these verses as being from the 13th-century poet Saʿdī. The photograph on the page shows the use of nastaʼlīq. --Lambiam 16:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is word by word translation (Persian couplet reads from right to left, and I will follow the same order): Tā (تا until) qiyāmat (قیامت the Day of Judgment) shukr (شکر thank) gūyam (گویم I say) kirdagār-i (کردگار God of) khvish (خویش oneself) rā (را is the particle serving as a sign of the definite direct object); Āh (آه oh) gar (گر if) man (من I) bāz (باز again) bīnam (بینم I see) rū-yi (روی the face of) yār-i (یار darling) khvish (خویش oneself) rā (را as above). Omidinist (talk) 00:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of family name "... de Santa Anna"

Where did the family name López de Santa Anna probably come from? Did the family originate from a town or village of that name? Was an ancestor in some church or aristocratic dignitary that entitled him to be named after a saint? Or what else? --KnightMove (talk) 09:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In European culture (from which Mexican culture derives in this respect), names of this general form (in various languages) are often a territorial surname indicating that the family originated in a place of that name: in the case of an enoblement, a territorial title might be given by the relevant Crown somewhat randomly, but this family do not appear to have acquired the name in such a way (they do not appear to be armigerous, for example). However, see also Surname#Spanish-speaking world.

Allowing for possible spelling changes – 'Santa Anna' and 'Santa Ana' seem to be interchangeable, and the latter is more common as a place name – there are several places called Santa Ana in Mexico, the majority in the province of Oaxaca which borders the province of Veracruz where this particular family became prominent: there are also, of course, many other places in other Spanish-speaking countries with the name, as well as at least three in Spain itself, plus a prominent Church of Santa Anna in Barcelona. Without having any specific information, I would have expected the name to derive from Spain rather than having arisen in the Americas, but I could well be mistaken (and if so, hopefullly someone will be moved to correct me, and thus address your query more knowlegeably). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 12:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of de Santa An(n)a to the very common patronymic surname López may have served a need to disambiguate it as the family rose to prominence. Compare López de Ayala, López de Cárdenas, López de Carvajal, López de Mendoza, López de Tovar, and López de Yanguas. If the addition was indeed spurred by a (relative) rise in prominence, the question can be posed whether this rise had occurred in Spain or only happened in Mexico. According to a genealogical tree, the father and paternal grandfather of the Mexican general and president were also named Antonio López de Santa Anna.^[13] The grandfather was probably born in the first half of the 18th century, but little seems to be known about him. I found no references to earlier people with this specific surname. --Lambiam 14:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Swearing in

When exactly will Julia Letlow be sworn in? 66.234.210.119 (talk) 11:07, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to this report (yesterday): "Letlow said she's hasn't been notified of the date she'll be sworn in." 2603:6081:1C00:1187:D889:B715:400:2256 (talk) 17:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Tasmanian state election

So the last few days I've been hearing brief coverage on the ABC about the upcoming Tasmanian election: the Speaker of the House of Assembly has left the Liberals, so the Government are now a minority and the Premier has called an election to get things back to normal. From our article I see that the Liberals had 13 of 25 seats, so presumably they're now down to 12/25. Question — how does the status of the Speaker affect anything? I thought the role of Speaker in a Westminster system was to be totally neutral, without any partisan activity whatsoever, so the Tasmanian speaker's party affiliation shouldn't matter one bit; where am I misunderstanding? Nyttend backup (talk) 11:25, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Speaker can vote (presumably with their party) in the event of a tie. [14]. (I believe this is the case for all Australian (federal and state) Speakers, and presumably for all Westminster-based systems.) Mitch Ames (talk) 12:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But aren't there strict conventions on a Speaker's vote, so that the casting vote must always be the same in a given situation, regardless of who holds the position? Nyttend backup (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For the Westminster practice see [15]. 95.148.229.88 (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, under Speaker Denison's rule, the speaker may only vote if there is a tie, and then has vote for further debate, or if that isn't possible, to maintain the status quo. Alansplodge (talk) 22:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 28

Continuing a litigation after case is dismissed with prejudice

[16] Plaintiff may have had a decent case, but her lawyer refused to wear a mask in court, judge was a Covid survivor, and dismissed the case with prejudice. Judge also said that didn't stop plaintiff from continuing the litigation. How can that be? I thought "with prejudice" meant the opposite of that: it's over, bub (modulo an expensive and probably useless appeal process which doesn't sound like what the judge had in mind). Any explanation? Obvs I have nothing to do with this case, just trying to understand the news article. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D (talk) 03:46, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]