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Masculinisme definitions

Hi everyone,

I found those definitions of the word "masculinism":

Masculinism: Definition: Movement concerned with the male condition. Note: “Masculinism” designates both a movement for the defense of the rights of men and their socio-political roles and a protest movement which aims to free men from their traditional social roles http://www.granddictionnaire.com/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=8396389

Masculinism: Movement for the defense of the rights of men, their independence and their values. Synonym: emancipation https://www.linternaute.fr/dictionnaire/fr/definition/masculinisme/

Masculinism: Masculinism designates a set of ideas, claims which seek to promote the rights of men and their interests in civil society, by affirming in particular that they are victims of the "excesses" of feminism. Synonym: homism. http://www.toupie.org/Dictionnaire/Masculinisme.htm

Masculinism: Masculinism is about taking an interest in gender equality with a particular sensitivity for the male condition. It is the masculine counterpart of feminism, even if the forms of expressions, claims or theoretical approaches differ. http://www.hommes-en-mouvement.info/masculinisme-definition/

Masculinism: "the rise of masculinism, a movement for the defense of men's rights." http://collections.musee-mccord.qc.ca/scripts/explore.php?Lang=2&tableid=11&tablename=theme&elementid=104__true&contentlong

Masculinism: Masculinism is thus posed as the equivalent of feminism, in social movement, and it claims to speak on behalf of all men. https://glosbe.com/fr/en/masculinisme

Masculinism: Set of demands seeking to promote the rights of men and their interests in civil society. https://www.le-dictionnaire.com/definition/masculinisme

Do you know other definitions?

--Richard141 (talk) 18:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Men's rights associations

Hi everyone,

I thought this article was missing men's right associations, so I made a list:

Here is a list of men's rights associations:

International:

International Men's Day
Movember : Association for men's health / against suicide

French:

SOS PAPA : Association for the rights of fathers
Paternet : Association for the rights of fathers
Groupe d’études sur leS sexismeS: Men's studies
SOS Hommes Battus: Association against domestic violence
Fin du canCER et début de l'HOMme : Association for men's health
SVP PAPA : Association for the rights of fathers

Canadian:

Canadian Association for Equality : Men's studies

UK:

Fathers4Justice : Association for the rights of fathers

Edit: There is this huge list: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/wiki/sidebar/resources_for_men 28 février 2020 à 20:14 (CET) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard141 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you agree with adding such a list to the wikipedia page? Do you know other associations?

Regards,

--Richard141 (talk) 18:25, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a separate article on the men's rights movement. That isn't to say an indiscriminate list of groups is appropriate there either. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What about changing "Violence and suicide" to "Masculinicides and violence"

Hi everyone,

I think the title "Violence and suicide" suggests that the only cause of prematured death among men is due to suicide. As suicide is one of the main cause of prematured death among men, there are also domestic violence, drugs, wars, ... I suggest to use the title "Masculinicides and violence" instead, and to use suicide as a subsection. What do you think about it? Regards,

--Richard141 (talk) 19:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't about the causes of death in men, but about a particular political ideology. If you can find a published, reliable source describing the masculist attitude toward "masculinicide", feel free to add it to the article, while keeping due and undue weight in mind. I don't see any reason to change the section heading based on the current text and sources. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Navigation templates RfC

There is a request for comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gender studies#‎Navigation templates: masculism related to this page. Please join the discussion there. Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Definition and scope - Straying on-topic?

The definition and scope has a notice that the section may stray into the topic of another article, Masculinism, which, turns out, redirects back to this article. Was there a merge, but the notice stayed? Should it be pointing somewhere else? 185.163.103.83 (talk) 14:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Masculism/Archive 6#Scope changes. The terms are not equivalent, yet this article has incorrectly conflated them. -- Netoholic @ 16:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

...doesn't look like the issue may be moving forward in either direction any time soon. As much as I'd rather your side wins (right advocacy and promotion of attributes do seem like fairly different things), as it is right now the notice is just kida confusing for a passerby, and unless discussion or efforts are underway it may be best removed. ...Then again, this is coming from a public IP skimming by, I'm not well versed enough in how wikipedia works for my opinion to hold any weight.185.163.103.83 (talk) 19:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Huh, completely forgot I was OP. That or there's some weird coincidence going on. Funny anonymous posting moments I guess - I should consider actually making an account some day. 185.163.103.83 (talk) 19:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose the merging of Meninism into Masculism. Both articles are already quite short, and I think that the subjects of both articles are doubtless similar enough to justify a merger. Entity137 (talk) 09:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]