User talk:Stick2700

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Hello, Stick2700, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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August 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Detroit Dragons, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. • Gene93k (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{adminhelp}}I am listed on wikipedia, and would like to know how I can keep other people from adding information about me onto that page without my consent? If this is not possible I would like to know how I can get all information off of wikipedia and keep it off. Thanks.

Hello stick2700. I suggest you carefully read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. The short answers to your questions is that you cannot keep other people from editing the article, and you probably can't have the article deleted either, but you were correct in all respects to remove the unsourced negative material that you did. If after reading the page I linked you still have questions, please seek help again.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

October 2018

Hello, I'm Zackmann08. Thank you for your recent contributions to Joe Kolodziej. I noticed that when you added the image to the infobox, you added it as a thumbnail. In the future, please do not use thumbnails when adding images to an infobox (see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE). What does this mean? Well in the infobox, when you specify the image you wish to use, instead of doing it like this:

|image=[[File:SomeImage.jpg|thumb|Some image caption]]

Instead just supply the name of the image. So in this case you can simply do:

|image=SomeImage.jpg.

There will then be a separate parameter for the image caption such as |caption=Some image caption. Please note that this is a generic form message I am leaving on your page because you recently added a thumbnail to an infobox. The specific parameters for the image and caption may be different for the infobox you are using! Please consult the Template page for the infobox being used to see better documentation. Thanks! Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 18:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2022

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Joe Kolodziej. Thank you. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Stick2700. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Joe Kolodziej, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam#External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When trying to follow dispute resolution in the past, you ignored the request. There is no threat being made. My father and I are completely within our legal rights to defend ourselves against false information being published here or anywhere else. My father as a resident of Poland has other legal rights pertaining to accurate information as well. Stick2700 (talk) 17:51, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Kolodziej

I placed a notification at the WP:Teahouse discussion about this but since you were a major contributor to the article I wanted to personally notify you of the AfD discussion. Link is in the title of this section. --ARose Wolf 14:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry that slanderous things have been said about your father and even more so if it made it on the pages of this encyclopedia. I can imagine they were very hurtful at the time and still are. I can't help what happened then. I can only offer advice on the article as it is now before us. I am not hostile towards you or your father. I am indifferent when it comes to your father's notability. It either is or isn't based on policy. But, I am empathetic towards your desire to protect your father and his legacy. Maybe I am 10 years too late to matter in the prior discussions but I am here now. Cullen gave you excellent advice on sources not found online and the fact they can be cited. Please take a look at that and see if you can find any newspaper clippings or printed articles. --ARose Wolf 16:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried responding to Cullen, and it wont let me. I will restore and continue to add citations. If in a few days its not good enough, then by all means delete it. But there had better be some mechanism to keep another page from being made by someone else again. My fathers name is Joseph and not Joe, he has never gone by Joe outside of our family. Even the title of the page does not accurately reflect him. Wiki has ruined lives of people because anyone can make things up and post them or create a page. Wiki has an obligation to protect people if they want to inform people. Stick2700 (talk) 16:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do not restore your version of the article - besides the problems with a conflict of interest (WP:COI), you would be starting up an edit war (WP:WAR). Use the talk page to suggest edits, and include your sources.

Newspaper articles are great sources; all we need is the publication name, article title, publication date, etc., so they can be looked up in newspaper archives.

Other Wikipedia articles or internet databases like Hockeydb are not good sources, since their content is user generated. Links to websites of organizations affiliated with your father are not good sources, since they are not independent. Press releases are also not independent. I really recommend that you read Wikipedia:Reliable sources - it's long, but you'll have a much better idea of what we're looking for. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would either clarify or strike the comment you made about tracing the IP of a Wikipedia editor and sending law enforcement after them. Trust me on this, that's not something to say or do lightly as it can easily backfire. If you want me to strike through it for you then just tell me here and I'll do it but you'll have to clarify your statement if it isn't stricken. --ARose Wolf 17:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HockeyDb and Elite prospects are not user generated. See, you have no idea what you are talking about. These sites are the "bibles" for hockey research in almost irrefutable. Any news site affiliated or owned by my father is the largest news source and most trusted news source in the junior hockey world, none others come even close.

As for tracing the IP, its been done, and its been reported to the Police. People who do these things deserve to have exactly the attention they obviously desire. People think they can just get away with things because their real name is not on them, and that is a problem. Nameless faceless cowards should never be allowed to attack other people.

Backfire? What, by having Wiki people upset? I do not care about Wiki people or their opinions. They have done nothing until today. My father and I do not take online harassment lightly, after more than a decade of it, you wouldn't either. Let me be clear, and with respect, I do not care about an edit war. This person in North Carolina started the edit war. You got involved when another newbie took it upon themselves to get involved who had never been involved before. Until today, this page was quiet. I did not create the noise or the problems, the anonymous person and the newbie did. I am simply correcting what you and Wiki has asked to be corrected. Stick2700 (talk) 17:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're free to ignore Wikipedia's rules. The consequence will be having your editing privileges removed by an administrator such as Cullen328, who responded to you at the Teahouse. If you'd prefer not to work to fix the article via the talk page and simply want to see it deleted, then doing nothing will probably accomplish that, as the discussion is tending that way. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I began adding citations. As requested. I would have replied directly to Cullen328 but he disabled the reply ability. It is not a matter of ignoring the rules. It is a matter of fair treatment for everyone. I am being attacked by Wiki members for doing what was asked. I gave my identification, and none of you give yours. This is a very one sided set of rules. Stick2700 (talk) 18:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No one is required to give any form of identification except to declare that they have a conflict of interest if one exists. I do not have a COI with your father's article. You do have one, which you didn't mention until today. Technically you should put a declaration on your user page, but we can probably ignore that bit of red tape for now.

I've already tried to explain that the sources you added were not usable. We need "reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy," especially in a biography of a living person. Unsourced/poorly sourced negative information should be removed - which you've very rightly been doing - but unsourced/poorly sourced positive information should also be removed. That's how we try to maintain the integrity of Wikipedia. It's a difficult and ongoing process, but there are people here who believe very strongly that it's worthwhile, and who are willing to help if asked. The Teahouse is one place to find such people - that's why the article has gotten so much attention today, because someone posted asking for help to bring the article in line with our policies. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am editing. I will be sourcing. But in hockey, you really need to know what is a credible source and what is not. Wiki people clearly do not know the difference when it comes to this niche sport. For example, hockeydb.com and eliteprospects.com are the absolute authorities on 90% of all hockey, and ARoseWolf thinks they are sources of user information, when users can not edit their information and anything there has to be verified through league records. These are irrefutable sources. Wiki may be knowledgeable about many things, here though, clearly Wiki people are out of their depth. It will take a few days, but the edits, and citations will be made. If its removed then so be it. I guarantee though someone else will start a new page at some point, it happens all the time on other sites dedicated to the sport. If you look at the edit history, you will see, only a few people disagree with anything that was placed there. Those people are largely non existent on any other Wiki page, and typically just disappear. When people do not challenge information 90% of the time, maybe its because the information is correct and can not be challenged. Stick2700 (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]