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Churchill

Why does the article not mention that Churchill was largely to blame for the Fall of Singapore by diverting vital supplies including tanks to the Soviet Union? (Wuhdsh (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC))[reply]

Do you have a reliable source for this claim? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 06:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits

@AustralianRupert: Er, I think I must have deleted that bit inadvertently, apols. Keith-264 (talk) 10:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ack, no worries, thanks for clarifying. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Changed Alled to Commonwealth but perhaps that should be Commonwealth and Imperial? Keith-264 (talk) 16:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nigos: The Dutch and US were not involved in the battle. Keith-264 (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Keith-264: Sorry, must’ve been confused between which about that somewhere in the article, I’ll revert it Nigos (talk | contribs) 23:13, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nigos: I had another look and it seems that where you changed Commonwealth, it was in the sections about the Pacific theatre where the term Allies is the right one. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 23:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Keith-264: I’ve restored that edit. Thanks, Nigos (talk | contribs) 23:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Total Defence Day

Added commemorative event in Singapore occurring on the relevant date each year (Total Defence Day). Point to note in relation to timing - while the main article mentions the surrender timing as "shortly after 17:15", the commemorative sirens are sounded at 18:20 each year. This is the official timing given by the Singapore government for this event; not sure how to explain the discrepancy. It may be noted that Singapore's official time zone shifted forward by 30 mins in 1981, but that doesnt fully explain the difference. Not sure how to reconcile this. Thekmt (talk) 10:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 December 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Singapore → Fall of Singapore – Clear common name. See Google NGRAMS or Google Scholar results (5,770 results for "fall" vs 297 for "battle"). Results indicate that this topic the only one commonly referred to as "fall of Singapore". Regardless of "battle" or "fall", there is no consistent capitalization for either. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I have seen similar discussions of a similarly proposed move regarding the Battle of France. I am uncertain to support, because it is still a Battle, and not exactly the Fall itself. While a relatively short one compared to the Battle of France, there's still a series of campaigns during this Battle that led to its Fall. ZKang123 (talk) 11:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Infobox edits

@BUZZLIGHTYEAR99: result – optional – this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive". The term used is for the "immediate" outcome of the "subject" conflict and should reflect what the sources say. In cases where the standard terms do not accurately describe the outcome, a link or note should be made to the section of the article where the result is discussed in detail (such as "See the Aftermath section"). Such a note can also be used in conjunction with the standard terms but should not be used to conceal an ambiguity in the "immediate" result. Do not introduce non-standard terms like "decisive", "marginal" or "tactical", or contradictory statements like "decisive tactical victory but strategic defeat". Omit this parameter altogether rather than engage in speculation about which side won or by how much.

@Keith-264 Which bit of: "Said criterion is not an absolute rule. The majority of the most popular conflict articles on this website utilize bullet points in their "result" sections." did you miss?
Here is just a sample of some massively popular military conflict articles (some of which are featured) that use bullets in their "result" section:
That should put this to rest. The criterion you are citing are not hard and fast rules. Stop being anal-retentive for no perceivable reason. BUZZLIGHTYEAR99 (talk) 20:48, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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