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POV violation re homosexuality

This sentence injects bias into the article: "Orwell was also openly against homosexuality, at a time when such prejudice was common."

It is improper to describe Orwell's beliefs about homosexuality as a "prejudice." It was an attitude. Prejudice implies he was wrong --and perhaps a bad person-- and it is not Wikipedia's business to pass judgment on his beliefs. 2601:14A:600:6E10:11E1:937D:BF77:DBFE (talk) 14:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Prejudice" is an acceptable term and has nothing to do with Wikipedia "passing judgment", any more than referring to a racist as being prejudiced would be. The section is sourced and it draws attention to prejudice against homosexuality being more acceptable in Orwell's time. That's just a statement of fact. Were he alive today and held those prejudices he would be rightly labeled a homophobe (if sourced properly). freshacconci (✉) 16:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editorialised introduction

It seems odd to me to refer to the "clueless liberal intelligentsia". In general, the introductory paragraph seems rather editorialised? Clemens Deimann (talk) 06:33, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that this user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikifun12345 had edited it to include their pov. KaneLives2030 (talk) 12:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

artificial insemination?

In the section of sexuality it says: "Sexual politics plays an important role in Nineteen Eighty-Four. In the novel, people's intimate relationships are strictly governed by the party's Junior Anti-Sex League, by opposing sexual relations and instead encouraging artificial insemination." I recently re-read 1984 and I didn't notice anything about artificial insemination. As I understood it, couples (at least Party member couples) were encouraged to have sex, but without much pleasure or love, for the purpose of having children. But if artificial insemination was mentioned I missed it. Burgundy1983 (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Newspeak: ARTSEM.--Technopat (talk) 18:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I guess I will have to read it again. :-) Burgundy1983 (talk) 18:51, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]