Talk:Steve Irwin

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Controversies section

Wikipedia manual of style says to avoid Controversies section. The text in this section should be merged into the main narrative. Ashmoo (talk) 10:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

"Wikipedia: Controversies" is not a WP policy or guideline, only an essay expressing 'advice or opinions' by certain contributors. I came to this article looking for a controversies section because I was repelled by Irwin's crudely extrovert and sensationalist approach after viewing a few of his TV programmes. I regret the tragic circumstances of his death. But his admirers have no right to attempt to place him beyond criticism, or to have any criticism buried within the main text of the article. Having a controversies section is fully justified and is not an infringement of current official WP policy. O Murr (talk) 06:19, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2018

Perhaps mention that, according to his 2004 Larry King interview, he hoped to become a US citizen.

"KING: Beautiful black snake. Yes. You going to be a U.S. citizen, too? IRWIN: Yes, I hope to. I sincerely hope to."

Liveinthemind (talk) 07:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:20, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. I don't think that is important enough to include—seems fairly trivial to me. I would suggest a discussion to determine inclusion. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 15:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Addendum: if he tried to become a citizen or was in the process of doing so, that would be a different story. We would sources to substantiate that though. NiciVampireHeart 15:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Birth Place (again)

This has been discussed once before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Steve_Irwin/Archive_2#Birth_place

His birthplace is currently listed as "Essendon", but according to his wife, he was born in Ferntree Gully (https://www.blog.google/inside-google/doodles/steve-irwin-doodle/). If he was born at the Angliss Hospital, it is located in Ferntree Gully.

Icd (talk) 03:23, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2019

Please change "Irwin's widow, Terri Raines Irwin" to "Irwin's wife, Terri Raines Irwin" in the caption under Terri Raines's picture in the "Career" section as a mark of respect for both personalities. Bishal Das (talk) 14:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

There is no reason to, as Irwin is dead so she is his widow. How, precisely, does calling her his wife confer more respect than the current, accurate, wording? Britmax (talk) 15:10, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. DannyS712 (talk) 16:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Although not indicated in the caption, the photo is from 2002, i.e. before Irwin’s death so she is his wife not his widow at that time. It would be better to include the year in the caption to make this clearer. Kerry (talk) 22:46, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I suggest we just caption it with her name and let the text solve any ambiguity. Britmax (talk) 22:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

What?

“Irwin was born on his mother's birthday“ What does this mean? When was his Mother born? 2601:483:101:86B5:2467:6275:A55B:B3B0 (talk) 01:11, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Birthday is not the same as birthdate. It means his mother was also born on a 22 February. That way they could save money by sharing a birthday cake. ―Mandruss ☎ 17:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Spelling of program

Can someone please correct the spelling, as the correct Australian spelling is “program” not the British spelling “programme.” 2001:8003:4037:8E00:D8D8:7513:C1AA:C5AA (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Done cheers. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 07:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Place of birth

According to australiazoo.com.au and crocodilehunter.com.au, Steve Irwin was born in Upper Ferntree Gully, Victoria. However, other sources (including Britannica.com) cite his birthplace as Essendon. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 07:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Steve Irwin was born at The Angliss hospital in Upper Ferntree Gully. Where he grew up before moving North is unclear, however it would make sense that he was in the Ferntree Gully area as opposed to the Essendon area given Ferntree Gully in the 60s was (and still is) very much an area with a lot of forestry and wildlife meanwhile Essendon is very urban. BeeerGutt (talk) 12:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2019

Reference #75: "Surfers invited to pay tribute". 6 September 2006. Retrieved 7 November 2006.[dead link]

link url on that site changed formatting resulting in a dead link. Please change http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3699961&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection to https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/scd-surfers-invited-to-pay-tribute/317393/ KodyT (talk) 17:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done Melmann 17:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

PETA

Should the PETA controversy from last year be added into the controversy section of the article? I think it’s notable, especially since PETA also came after his son and continued for a few months. But, PETA’s been quiet about it since Jimmy Fallon stopped showing live animals and they’ve since deleted some of the harsher tweets. So, I’m not sure if it should be added, but I’d like to hear what others think anyway. Bencutiostan (talk) 22:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Ocean's Deadliest

The article incorrectly asserts that there is no mention of Steve Irwin's death in Ocean's Deadliest, Steve's last documentary. However, the film does contain a still image stating "In memory of Steve Irwin", a reference to his passing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unreasonableperson (talk • contribs) 21:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@Unreasonableperson: Added. Thank you for bringing this up. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 06:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

His Injury

Although many sources state that the barb pierced his heart, there's no heart injury in his autopsy. Sometimes when a person gets injured in the chest, people may speak too much and assume it was in the heart organ. Also, he died not just from blood loss it was because of the stingray's venom.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.29.11 (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2021

Change sentence under "Death": According to the incident's only witness, "All of a sudden [the stingray] propped on its front and started stabbing wildly with its tail. Hundreds of strikes in a few seconds". to "It (the film) shows that Steve came over the top of the ray and the tail came up, and spiked him here (in the chest), and he pulled it out and the next minute he's gone. That was it. The cameraman had to shut down." (source: https://web.archive.org/web/20060911010650/http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C20867%2C20355112-601%2C00.html)

Reasoning: The way this big animal stings is once, very quickly en precise. The hundreds of strikes in a few seconds mentioned now is illogic for an animal with one poisoned barb. Like a bee, one sting. MPMastenbroek (talk) 11:31, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. The current quote is from a witness of the attack, while your quote is from a friend that watched his footage. I personally think that the witness at the scene holds a little more weight, but in any case, consensus is needed before changing it. Sourcing is not an issue in either. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Steve Irwin Day into Steve Irwin

It looks like the Day is celebrated by one zoo? Reading the article, it does not seem like the amount of information that couldn't be accomodated in the main article.(NPP action) Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

• Merge there is already a subsection that says "Steve Irwin day" and that section is like 1/3rd the size of the Steve Irwin Day article, I don't see a point of having a seperate article, and I really doubt that article could be expanded enough to be it's own thing. Therefore, merge that article into here and make Steve Irwin Day redirect to Steve_Irwin#Steve_Irwin_Day. Thanks - RandomEditorAAA (talk) 21:15, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
• Merge. Fully agree with the above. --Bduke (talk) 10:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
• Merge. I should have made it a redirect link from the start. Also agree with the above. --InPursuitOfAMorePerfectUnion (talk) 10:52, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
• Mergeper RandomEditorAAA--JTZegers (talk) 02:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Typo in the article

Hello, this article is semi-protected, and I just created an account to try to fix one typo: "governments and non-profit organiszations." <-- organiszations. I'd like to request for someone to fix it, since I can't do it myself :) Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KruellPoz (talk • contribs) 11:07, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I've fixed it. Thanks for drawing it to our attention. HiLo48 (talk) 02:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Separate death page

Just curious why Irwin's death has to have its own separate page? I'm not sure that's really necessary. Is it because the circumstances of his death were so infamous? 216.193.182.159 (talk) 17:50, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

You're more than welcome to propose the page for deletion or merge at WP:AfD. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Unsure, but if I had to guess, it would be due to the circumstances of his death. --HighlyLogicalVulcan (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Probably, but it does seem unnecessary to me. HiLo48 (talk) 00:25, 27 November 2022 (UTC)