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2018 Mayoral election

Hillary Ronen voted to remove London Breed as interim mayor of San Francisco. She explained the vote by asserting that Breed was beholden to special interests, including rich white men who Ronen believed had been responsible for San Francisco's housing problems. These are facts relating to a politician's political positions and should be included to illustrate those positions. Assistance and advice regarding how to neutrally report the facts would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adambondy (talkcontribs)

Biased writing

This page is written in a way that is clearly biased against her. I came here to learn more about Hillary Ronen, but this page is not written in an objective way. 50.213.5.61 (talk) 14:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please point out some specific examples? SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 22:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Her fear of shadows seems a bit unusual, but it is supported by the sources. In fact, here's a video where she talks about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgxwKnH8y4
If this is typical of how she behaves, then I wouldn't blame wikipedia editors for the fact that the wikpiedia article makes her look bad. San Francisco is in serious need of a huge amount of new housing, and the wikipedia article cites multiple reliable sources for her opposition to many different proposed construction projects. The wikipedia article is merely a reflection of what reliable sources say about the subject.
SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 22:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV dispute - Police funding section

I'm concerned about whether this section meets the standards of WP:BLP and WP:Neutral point of view.

Specifically, I'm concerned about the reliability of the source and that this is WP:Advocacy with the persistent re-addition of this material by someone using different IP addresses. See WP:FOXNEWSPOLITICS for more information on this source. Also, the redirection of funds by London Breed is not mentioned in the article. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am too very concerned about the neutrality of this section. As to the BLP, this is contentious material that is poorly sourced. FOX News is generally held to be an unreliable source of information and a perpetrator of misinformation, most notably with their stories on how the 2020 Election was stolen from Donald Trump even though Joe Biden legitimately won.
As to the words used in this section, they clearly display of lack of neutrality. The section makes her sound like she is hypocrite even though her position from various news sources show that she wants to transfer funds from law enforcement agencies to other programs that can deal with social problems more efficiently while she also stating that there no viable alternative to police that can deal with violent assaults at the moment.
Also, there is no reason that this should be at the top section. This should be at the very least the last section or second-to-last section. I intend to make these correction soon. In addition, this section should be retitiled towards a broader category such as public safety. SFHistorian1850 (talk) 02:23, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Let's allow for other people to comment (i.e., someone who is not one of two people edit warring over this section). I've added a tag and there's no deadline to fix this so please respect the guideline to avoid reverting during discussion. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:03, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have read the guideline to avoid reverting during discussion and still believe the section should be taken down under the following exception to the rule:
Exceptions to this recommendation include the following:
  • Living persons – Always remove unsourced and poorly sourced contentious material. If you are having a dispute about whether to include it, the material is automatically contentious.
The only source that is provided is from an affiliate of the Sinclair Broadcasting Group (see https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-group-conservative-trump-david-smith-local-news-tv-affiliate). News from these local outlets have been extremely biased and unreliable as the article explains. SFHistorian1850 (talk) 21:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]