Talk:Ukrainian Insurgent Army

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Section sizes

Section size for Ukrainian Insurgent Army (39 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	16,344	16,344
Organization	5,791	13,250
Structure	2,505	2,505
Greeting	720	720
Anthem	2,767	2,767
Flag	1,360	1,360
Awards	107	107
Military ranks	2,557	2,557
Armaments	1,900	1,900
Formation	16	3,479
1941	1,813	1,813
1942	1,650	1,650
Germany	12,265	12,265
Poland	13	15,093
Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia	12,065	12,065
Post-war	3,015	3,015
Soviet Union	84	27,945
German occupation	2,153	2,153
Fighting	8,247	8,247
Spring 1945–late 1946	7,599	7,599
End of UPA resistance	9,862	9,862
Women in the UPA	1,295	1,295
Publishing activity of the UPA	1,428	3,779
Soviet infiltration	2,351	2,351
Holocaust	8,725	8,725
Reconciliation	2,451	2,451
2019 official veteran status	1,899	1,899
Monuments for combatants	3,650	3,650
Commemoration in Ukraine	9,965	9,965
Popular culture	4,114	8,690
Films	2,007	2,007
Fiction	160	160
Songs	2,409	2,409
See also	193	193
References	17	6,701
Notes	36	36
Citations	31	31
Books	6,617	6,617
External links	2,315	2,315
Total	142,496	142,496

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lechaim.ru/

I made this edit as the source is a non-scholarly Russian website lechaim.ru, which cites a reliable source but the RS does not mention the UPA or Shukhevych and focuses on a 1941 order by the OUN's Iaroslav Stetsko. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17 September 2023 page vandalism

User:Бровар made a series of edits that

- removed the entire allies section of the info box, presumably to whitewash the well-documented Nazi-UPA alliance.

- removed "antisemitism" and "fascism" from the ideology section, presumably with the same intention.

- removed the well-sourced accusations of holocaust complicity (Le Monde was the original citation).

I'm not well versed in Wikipedia backend - what is the process for reverting this vandalism and blocking the vandal?

(pinging the last editor for visibility) @Bobfrombrockley Aachenshinto (talk) 19:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the vandalism. Recommend blocking User:Бровар from editing this page. Aachenshinto (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While only one of Бровар’s edits had an edit summary, the edits appear to be good faith not vandalism, and this is not behaviour that should lead to a block without a larger pattern. Please assume good faith. As EricLewan also notes, two of the infobox bullets are contentious labels that lack support in the body (and in fact contradict it). Please get consensus here (and RSs in body) before considering restoring. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Polish 2nd Republic

Hi, @UA0Volodymyr I noticed that your removed Polish People's Republic as the enemy of UPA and replaced it with Second Polish Republic, in my opinion it's bad change because UPA didn't exist before 1942 and was fighting against Communist Poland. Can you rollback that?

Also why did you removed mention of Borotvet's army ([1])? Marcelus (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't I just removed dates near Polish People's Republic and Borotvet's army was Ukrainian People's Revolutionary Army, another organization. UA0Volodymyr (talk) 20:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok I confused versions.

As for the other thing: my concern is for the removal of text starting with Another separate, independent UPA.... I think it was useful information. Marcelus (talk) 20:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

that was Borotvet's army. UA0Volodymyr (talk) 20:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and the removed text was making it clear. Marcelus (talk) 20:08, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dmytro Klyachkivsky started the Galicia-Volhynia massacres and it was approved by Roman Shukhevych, leader of Ukrainian Nationalist Army. Both war criminals were assassinated.

The UPA were always allies with Germany

The UPA fought for Germany all the way until the end of ww2 in Europe. Wikipedia moderators are pro Ukrainian nazis Napalm Guy (talk) 10:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have sources for this? KetchupSalt (talk) 12:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My source is that the upa massacred thousands of poles, Russians, and Jews from 1941-1945 with the help of the nazis Napalm Guy (talk) 12:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources referenced in the article confirm that for a time UPA fought against Germans, after having been allied with them. Please stop vandalizing the article.Faustian (talk) 05:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]