Talk:Moldova

New source for Moldova's official language

The actual source is from Reuters (very legit source) but I think it can be replaced for an even better source, the official Parliament of Moldova website. This is the link: https://multimedia.parlament.md/adoptat-de-parlament-sintagma-limba-romana-va-fi-introdusa-in-toate-legile-republicii-moldova/ as a side note, it also says all official texts that included the denomination "Moldovan language" will be effectively replaced to Romanian language. Navarran94 (talk) 19:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

No one is disputing that the Moldovan parliment declared Romanian the official langauge for government use.

This does not mean that Moldovan doesn't exist as a national language. Attempting to obscure information about their relationship and history does not improve the article and it does not help readers understand the situation; The only thing it does is take sides in a nationalist POV push. The government descision does not mean Moldovan disappears from use or never existed.  // Timothy :: talk  20:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Dude, what are you talking about? Did you even read 2 phrases of the wikipage Moldovan language? Moldovan, also known historically as Moldavian, was a local name of the Romanian language in Moldova. So it literally says it was the local name of the Romanian language (not even valid anymore, as it's a defunct name) yer you still claim Moldovan is a separate language. What's your point here? Your arguments make no sense.

Your edit attempts to shoehorn "Moldovan language" seem to be the ones coming from someone with a nationalist POV push. It's crystal clear that Moldovan was just a local name and not a language as you claim. As it has never been one. You can find all of this perfectly explained here: Moldovan language Wikipage.

And I would kindly ask you to stop with your disruptive behavior as I've just asked for a source replacement here, for an even better one. If you want to talk about your own POV you have the section from above, as you've made it. Navarran94 (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Reminds me of Filipino. The govt wanted to downplay that they were imposing one ethnic language, Tagalog, over the others by calling it "Filipino" and claiming that it was a different language. This ran into a speed bump because Filipino citizens are allowed translators in court if they do not speak fluent Filipino. One defendant demanded a translator because he only spoke Tagalog. The judge ruled that providing a translator would be frivolous because Filipino is Tagalog.

There is a difference here, in that Moldavian is written in Cyrillic. Not that that makes it a language, of course, but it does affect govt publications. I presume that that aspect of the standard is already defunct, at least in govt-controlled areas, in which case all that's left is the choice of name. I think "Romanian (officially 'Moldovan')" should be adequate, but added "pending change in law" for clarification. — kwami (talk) 20:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I presume that that aspect of the standard is already defunct, at least in govt-controlled areas, in which case all that's left is the choice of name. that is correct. It is on Moldova's constitution that "Moldovan" is to be written in the Latin alphabet. This alphabet portion will be removed once Romanian replaces Moldovan as it will be superfluous. And that Filipino/Tagalog note is an interesting addition. Super Ψ Dro 20:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

"Moldavian" as you call it is Stalin's invention. At first, the Moldovan SSR adopted Romanian orthography, but when exporting revolution to Romania failed, Stalin invented bastardized Cyrillic Moldovan. That is, it was not a return to Cyrillic Romanian. "Moldavian" was never a real language, only an orthographic tool of a totalitarian state to isolate the same people divided between Romania and Moldova. VєсrumЬа ►TALK 01:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Well, to attribute this "invention" to Stalin would be a superoversimplification. Please see the detailed exposition of the issue in "Moldovenism". There were plenty of moldovenists even before Stalin grabbed power. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 15:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Language law published in Monitorul Official

The law changing all references to “Romanian language” has been published in the Monitorul Official today ([1]) so we can finally go ahead and change the references. De wafelenbak (talk) 10:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

De wafelenbak, as the law project stated, legislative changes will take place within 30 days of the law entering into force. That was only today. When the constitution is changed we will see lots of press releases and articles about it. Right now there are not any, because it has not happened. Super Ψ Dro 17:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

By the way, please do not revert my edit that requires citation. Because, as you say the official language formally remains Moldovan and the statement in question is formally false. Or you expand the text in this place with detailed explanation. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I interpreted that edit as if you thought the 1991 declaration of independence was outdated because of the 2023 changes. Apologies. Super Ψ Dro 18:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2023

Costin21ro (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

scrieti la gini index 25,7 intrati pe linkul de la bibliografieCostin21ro (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: not communicating in English. M.Bitton (talk) 17:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Typo

I seem to be blocked from editing the page about the country here, but not its talk page?

However, I think there is a typo in the "Administrative divisions"-section. "largest city in Moldova is Chișinău with a population of appprox" looks strange to me, but on the other hand, I have not studied English for decades! Smitingen (talk) 16:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

The correct spelling is "approx". I have amended it. BobKilcoyne (talk) 14:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 October 2023

Vandalization alert: the sentence/phrase "pierogi (called 'Chiroște' in Moldovan) are another traditional staple and are often stuffed with a soft cheese in Moldova." is factually incorrect as any Moldovan/Romanian person may confirm.

Proposed change: Delete the sentence/phrase

Pierogi is a Polish food, and it's something akin to dumplings. No such word "Chiroște" exists in Romanian: https://dexonline.ro/definitie/chiroște (or 'Moldovan' as it was written by the person who vandalized the article), neither in cultural register of speech nor in informal register of speech anywhere in Moldova. Octavix (talk) 23:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

I can verify from a simple search that the dish exists and is well-known in Moldova. The statement is sourced (albeit to blogs), and the article about pierogi also includes the same statement with a different reference. I have, however, amended the sentence for other corrections, including the reference to the Moldovan language. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:57, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

"other" in Ethnic Groups section

This should link to Demographics of Moldova as with other countries wikipedia pages. 2605:A601:AA3B:5500:1006:275C:69:C830 (talk) 02:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Excessive WP:Recentism in the History section

Looking at the historical section, there seems to be excessive detail and trivia regarding the post-2019 period. Thus, there are 1,532 words about the first 2,000 years, 909 words about 1918-1989 (70 years), 1,375 words about the period 1989-2019 (30 years), and 2,385 words about the 2019-2024 period (5 years)!! I urge editors seeking to add anything related to this period to first take a moment and think whether a particular event is really relevant for a historical overview. I also invite watchers to try and summarise the content already in the article in order to achieve some kind of balance. Regards. Anonimu (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Could we just hive the whole excess off to History of Moldova, which contains about four paragraphs for the same period? CMD (talk) 15:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)