Talk:Kenpachi Zaraki

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I don't think that Ichinose used his bankai during his fight with Zaraki. Despite being a powerful attack he used, he didn't once say the word "Bankai" which if you look at every other time a captain used his bankai they did. Neither did he mention that it was his bankai either.--Smzz 19:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reorganized the part of the article where is talks about his Zanpakuto and how he defeated the previous captain; this was put in the history section of the page.

Sturmtiger 04:34, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shikai

Hmm... The article suggests that Zaraki hasn't achieved Shikai--but the anime makes it clear that Zaraki and Ichigo have permanantly released Zanpakuto. So he and Ichigo walk around in Shikai state and don't need to release their Zanpakuto (I believe another Wikipedia article talks about this and states that it's probably considered rude in Soul Society). Of course, it's very true that knowing the sword's name is supposedly a condition for Shikai and I guess I feel that's one of the impressive things about Zaraka: he forced his Zanpakuto into Shikai state without knowing it's name.Demia 04:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The generally accepted opinion on that comment was that Zaraki had no clue what he was talking about and was just mouthing off. His zanpakuto is specially shaped, but still nameless, and has no abilities, so it is not a shikai. Much like Ichigo's first sword was specially shaped. They specifically state that Zaraki has no Shikai.--Tjstrf 08:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ichigo had to find out Zangetsu's name to achieve shikai, even though his sword is always released after the first shikai; therefore logically Zaraki would have to as well. I'm not 100% sure though. -- Ynhockey 13:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It states in the anime that Kenpachi has not yet asked his Zanpakuto its name so he could not achieve shikai or bankai. Orochimaru12 03:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this manga has a lot of contradictions, one of them is the fact that zaraki simultaneously has achieved a permanent shikai without knowing the name of his zanpakto. however, as the manga constantly re-iterates, even if you have access to a technique, such as when ichigo fired that first blast at urahara when he first released his zanpakto, it wont be as powerful as when he learns the NAME of that technique. so in other words, zaraki learning the name of his zanpakto will still increase his shikai's power, although i agree its a contradiction that he even has a permanent shikai to begin with. (howevre its obvious that it is a shikai, just look at it, its extremely long and has dagger like claws all over it, not at all a normal looking spirit manifestation).

i just went over that episode and he said

no matter how hard i tire i cant seal up all of my power

so that  just means that its power is just in  raw nothing covering it up "butt naked"Evxyza92 06:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yachiru's Aura

Yachiru doesn't gain the aura after the fight. She already has it, and it in fact flared up during the fight when she was disturbed by a messanger. User:123fakestreet

The preceding is actually by 68.197.19.225 (talk · contribs) [1]. JoaoRicardo^talk 03:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... You're right. Maybe Fakestreet was too lazy to log in and just signed his comment that way? Weird. I'll ask him on his talk page. --Tjstrf 04:49, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i made that comment, i didn't realize i wasn't logged in. More importantly, aren't i correct about the whole Yachiru aura discrepancy? Her aura first appeared in page 2 of chapter 113 of the manga, before either Ichigo or Zaraki had conjured up and aura and certainly before the fight was over. She had had it to begin with.--123fakestreet

Look, unless somebody says something to the contrary, I'm taking out the part about Yachiru "gaining" and aura and putting in something about her aura in her article.--123fakestreet

Constant-Released Type

Just to let you guys know, Kubo made it clear that Kenpachi is indeed using his initial release, as both his and Ichigo's are the only two known zanpakutō classified into "Constant-Released Type". This is written in the official guide book SOULs.131.204.120.123 22:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What page is this stated in? It does not seem likely, because even Ichigo needed to learn the name of his zanpakutō before achieving this 'constant release' state. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 22:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Read the page where they give the definition of the "Constant-Release Type" near the end of the book along with all the other terms. It stated that zanpakutō's belonging to this type constantly assumes its initial release, and that examples are that of Ichigo's as well as Kenpachi's. I will supply with the actual quotes, scan pages, as well as page number when I get home, but if you do have the book, you may check it yourself.

Also, the sentence I've deleted amounts to fan speculation to begin with, which means it doesn't belong in there regardless. 131.204.120.123 22:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, until you can provide the direct reference, and Yn confirms it, I'm removing the mention entirely. It was, imo, heavily implied to just be Zaraki bragging, but since both opinions basically come down to fan interpetations of dialogue, it really doesn't belong at all. --tjstrf 23:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There you go... This comes from the Official Databook SOULs, Page 258.

Definition in Japanese

The Definition states that:

"Constant-Released Type"--Due to the owner's spiritual force, these zanpakutō's take on their "initial release" form at all time. Ichigo's as well as Kenpachi's zanpakutō belong to this.Finestela 00:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh joy, now we have a gigantic plothole... --tjstrf 01:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

....how is that a plothole, exactly? --ACDragonMaster 00:44, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To end this, he already said he had forgotten the name. He simply wanted to remember his blades name again. However he was not able to talk to his blade at al, and unless stated otherwise I think that as long as you have an "Always shikai" type blade you don't have to remember your Zanpaktous name.

--Big_blue \ guest 10:30 P.M, 12 May 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.16.9.156 (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

yachiru strength

hi there, when Yumichika refers to Ikkaku (the 3rd seat) as the second strongest in 11th squad, he said "the second strongest man", I think Yachiru is strongest than him, but is a girl ;D what do you think of this idea?

Actually Yumichika said he was the 2nd strongest, the 'man' part is just the scanlation (ch. 203 p. 4). Juu-ni should be hanged :P well, not really, but it's causing a huge argument... I hope no one adds the info again. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 13:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, in chapter 203, Yumichika did use the word "otoko", which means "man" or "guy". It has nothing to do with scanlation, but rather what was said in the manga. Also, if Yumichika was talking about "person", he would've used "hito" instead of "otoko". Finestela 00:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did notice that afterwards and edited Ikkaku Madarame to reflect that (it's sourced too). -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 10:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aramaki Makizou's Rank?

I don't remember him ever identifying himself with a number, like most of the other shinigami do when they introduce themselves. Also, I remember that when they had him in the "End of Episode, Kon Segment", he was identified as "rank and file", at least according to the Lunar sub. However, I haven't read the manga up to that point, so that may be it. — TheBenignBovine| (talk) 06:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I can't remember the time/place, but I'm sure he did say his seat sometime, because once someone changed it in the article and it took me quite a while to check and find out for sure. If I have time, I'll try to find the exact episode or manga chapter. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 08:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Invulnerability

No mention is made of the fact that Zaraki cannot die. Why? --NaOH 04:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was figurative since he had never been defeated and possessed extremely high amounts of reiatsu that many low-level shinigami like Hantarou believe he cannot die. At least thats what I think. Gdo01 05:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In addition he was very near death after he passed out after asking his zanpakutou for its name, so much so that Yachiru (who was not fazed by the sight of slaughter during her youth) was extremely worried.Gdo01 05:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even though he strangely doesn't die from being stabbed a millions times. The guy literally allowed himself to be stabbed so he catch Tousen's sword in hand. Don't say that he cannot die but just put in that he has amazing endurance and give evidence by stating that he was inflicted with wounds that probably would have killed most people.Noman953

he just has sooooo much bad ass power that it is very hard to kill... not invulnerable, just very tough guy who love being tough! (x_x) Akinkhoo 15:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Battles

I don't want to be the obnoxious wikipedian who self righteously deletes other peoples contributions. But I feel this section is useless and whatever in it should be in the synopsis. because there should be some symmetry between articles. Either all characters should have notable battles section or none should have it at all. Noman953

That does sound like a good idea. I could see the reasoning in that fighting is so much a part of Kenpachi's character, however, that would make sense to simply incorporate it into the synopsis. --ACDragonMaster 00:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hollow

I read somewhere that Zaraki was an Arrncar. It said he was the first hollow to be come arrancar. Is this true?Kinta006

No. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 00:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

surely not, he display no hollow trait! :P 218.186.9.5 15:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Constant-Shikai Type

Earlier in this discussion page(Back before headers were being used) editers made mention of a page in the official character book souls which describes the "Constant-Released Type" Shinigami an unregistered user posted a picture for page 258 which no longer works I was wondering if someone could post another scan of that page. --Bushido Brown 07:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About Zaraki

"Changed through their battle, Kenpachi begins his search for his zanpakutō's name, so that he can once again challenge Ichigo"

Is this right?? I mean, this sentence suggest that Zaraki is busy trying to find out his zanpaktoh's name, but I have not seen him trying..have you??

He only said something like it, during a moment of sorrow, like the article said...but so far he has not done anything to back this up..so this sentence is not completely fitting is it??

However, even then, he is not yet capable of communicating with his zanpakutō, and continually tries to learn from his zanpakutō so that he can achieve a new tier of power.

The same applies to this sentence, since Zaraki does not continually tries to know his zanpaktoh's name. Nothing has been said or shown to back this up...it's only hinted that Zaraki might be trying to.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 (talk) 06:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I agree. That section confused me a great deal when I read it because when I had later seen the anime and read the appropriate manga chapters it made no sense. Nothing after in either the manga or anime supports those conclusions. I'd go ahead and cut out or edit the parts you've quoted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.59.44.106 (talk) 02:39, 15 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Hey in the end of the English version of the anime it shows Zaraki's zanpakuto changing to an aquamarine color and then knocking the spit out of a group of shinigami. Is that his "Getsuga Tensho"? Like its a move he can do without knowing the name? Plus his aura is yellow so it can't just be him using his aura. Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.166.101 (talk) 11:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this has been discussed before. Basically it could indeed be some unkown ability which will be revealed later (definitely not Getsuga Tenshō), but it could also just be a way of showing that his sword is moving extremely fast (a sort of blur). -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 08:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't saying that the move was getsuga tensho just that its a move he can do without knowing its name like Ichigo's move before he knew its name. (I think I need to make an account :|)

Is Kenpachi in Release or not?

I know it says that Kenpachi is a Constant release type, but so was Ichigo, and we still saw his original blade. Does that mean that once he does find his Swords name it will stay in release? Because everyone seems to have different thoughts on it, but it has yet to display any powers normally associated with Release, nor does he ever use a specail Technique when he fights. So which is it?

It's what the article says. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is as Zaraki even said in episode 38 said that it is he even said that it never had a sealed form to begin with. Also note that like Ichigo's the handle and sheath are just a simple cloth warp but Zaraki's sheath remains even after it is drawn. thedarklonewolf

the skull energy

should we put something in the zanpakutoh section about that it seems if anything important even if we did mention before in the articleEvxyza92 06:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]